Reddit reviews Them: Adventures with Extremists

I was going to write up a big thing, but honestly, I'm not the person to do it. The short version is that, no, they're not joking. Some people on the_donald probably are just trolls who are fucking around, but most of the people who post there are serious. Those posts mostly make it to the front page as a direct result of bots (check out /r/all/rising) but there still is a large population of real people who actively upvote and post on that stuff.

Its a complicated scene that ties in a lot of different threads of people together including 4chan/8chan shit posters, actual conservative americans, and legitimate racists with some serious overlap included between those groups. Although you might traditionally think of reddit users as young, educated, and socially liberal, it's important to remember that this site has long since expanded past the type of audience you might expect out of a similar site like slashdot and - just like in real life - there is now a huge range of people who post here.

If you're at all interested in learning more, I would suggest you read The Elephant in the Room, a short book by Jon Ronson detailing the interaction the Trump campaign has with the alt-right and - in particular - one of its leading members, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones (a man who believes Sandy Hook was a fake, orchestrated false flag government operation). Also, Ronson's book Them has some pretty haunting and prophetic stories in it about the KKK attempting to rebrand and mainstream its message starting in the late 90's/early 2000's to gain political influence that really resonates and appears to have really come to term.

Lighter non-fiction that I have recently loved:

Jon Ronson: Them. Spending time with conspiracy nuts, but quick and self-conscious investigative journalism. It's fun and interesting.


Erik Larson: Devil in the White City. At the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, a serial killer sets up a building to attract and in which to murder stray people who wouldn't be missed. This book reads like a bestseller mass-market paperback murder mystery, but it's based in truth (albeit with some literary embellishments.)

Benjamin Wallace: The Billionaire's Vinegar. Tremendously expensive wine and international wine-sales fraud. Super-rich people are ridiculous.

> He did sort of bring out the idiocy that is the Bohemian Grove

Jon Ronson did that (discussed in his book Them: Adventures with Extremists). Jones was just along for the ride and made a crappy movie about it that twisted everything from being a stupid rich person summer camp into human sacrifice and demonic rituals.

I'm very old, so originally I was gotten, briefly, by that stupid loose change video. There was another video, appropriately titled "Fuck Loose Change", that undid it for me, although I'm not sure how authoritative that one is.

I'm not sure if this'll be any help, since I never really lost myself in the blogspam and other youtub spam.

Recommended reading: Them, by Jon Ronson.

Also I want to recomend the Book, Them by Jon Ronson

It's about a Journalist who, in the late 90s, was paling around with Extremists and Conspiracy theorist in order to learn what makes them tick. And yes Alex Jones is involved.

I think David Foster Wallace's books "A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again" and "Consider the Lobster" are very interesting and unusual in the context of normal essay collections. If those aren't weird enough for you, try Jon Ronson's "Them: Adventures with Extremists" or Mick Brown's "The Spiritual Tourist". Also, check out Martin Sargeant's "Web Drifter" series, which is not literature per se, but I think it's very similar in tone to Apocalypse Culture, if I remember that book correctly (it's been 10+ years since I've read that).

No, [when he says aliens he really means aliens... or lizards... or whatever the hell David Icke is coming up with now](http://www.amazon.com/Them-Adventures-Extremists-Jon-Ronson/dp/0743233212 "OK, so this reference is really obscure just read the damn book")... also the Jews did not build the pyramids.

I recommend Jon's book dealing with this and other conspiratards. Highly amusing.

http://www.amazon.com/Them-Adventures-Extremists-Jon-Ronson/dp/0743233212/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368503805&sr=8-1&keywords=them+adventures+with+extremists

Read "Them", where a reporter sets out to investigate a gaggle of conspiracy theories, including the "ruling order". In the process he slips into a invitation-only gathering in a forest camp and later gets chased by suited men in black cars. He ends up talking to one of the founding members of the Bilderberg Group.

Basically, yes, there are cabals of rich men and business leaders who would like to run the world if they could, but it's not technically feasible: the world is too big and complicated to be centrally controlled. They still have shadowy organizations and a lot of meetings, though.

'worship' is kind of an oversell, but the whole thing is creepy nonetheless. Have you read Jon Ronson's book? He was there with Jones. Pretty interesting stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/Them-Adventures-Extremists-Jon-Ronson/dp/0743233212/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

If you like it you'll love this one: http://www.amazon.com/Them-Adventures-Extremists-Jon-Ronson/dp/0743233212/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268862555&sr=1-3

While I read this as a hilarious hyperbole. Are you aware there are people (lots) who genuinely believe in this? I just read this book and it is a trip https://www.amazon.com/Them-Adventures-Extremists-Jon-Ronson/dp/0743233212/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1505506795&sr=1-3&keywords=jon+ronson+the

https://www.amazon.com/Them-Adventures-Extremists-Jon-Ronson/dp/0743233212

Great book, Alex Jones makes an appearance.

I'm in the middle of Homo Deus currently. Its great so far, Yuval is a great writer and his books are a lot more accessible than traditional history books. I'm sure there are a lot of liberties taken with some of the history but I think Sapiens is a must-read. Homo Deus is more assumption based on current reality but its very interesting so far.

Gulag Archipelago is one I read based on the recommendation of Jordan Peterson. Awesome book if you are into WW1-WW2 era eastern europe. being an eastern european myself, i devour everything related to it so this book tickled my fancy quite a bit. good look into the pitfalls of what peterson warns against.

Black Earth: The Holocaust as History and Warning is another history book discussing that time period and how it all transpired and the lesser known reasons why WW2 went down the way it did. some surprising stuff in that book related to hitler modeling europe around how the united states was designed at the time.

apologies for inundating with the same topic for all my books so far but Ordinary Men is an amazing book chronicling the people that carried out most of the killings during WW2 in Poland, Germany and surrounding areas. The crux of the argument which I have read in many other books is that Auschwitz is a neat little box everyone can picture in their head and assign blame to when in reality most people killed during that time were taken to the outskirts of their town and shot in plain sight by fellow townspeople, mostly retired police officers and soldiers no longer able for active duty.

for some lighter reading i really enjoy jon ronson's books and i've read all of them. standouts are So You've Been Publicly Shamed and The Psychopath Test. Highly recommend Them as well which has an early Alex Jones cameo in it.

If you get a chance, Ronson's book Them: Adventures with Extremists is an incredibly interesting read. The documentary was somewhat of a pairing with the book, and the two are very informative and entertaining.

I think it's pretty cool to think/read about, whether it's true or not. My favorite is the idea that the world is ruled by a race of shape-shifting lizard people.

I actually just watched the movie The Conspiracy which talks about NWO a lot, though I don't know if any of it is based on actual facts. Also, Jon Ronson's book Them is all about him talking to conspiracy theorists, mainly about NWO. Interesting stuff

Jon Ronson said that he was pretty convinced that David Icke literally believes in lizard men and that he describes all the different species and what dimensions they come from. Is it possible Icke started to believe his own bullshit?

Them: Adventures with Extremists by Jon Ronson is an exceptionally fun read if you'd like to learn more about this.

Jon Ronson goes on an extended adventure with Alex in this excellent book.
https://www.amazon.com/Them-Adventures-Extremists-Jon-Ronson/dp/0743233212


I've met the man briefly (Jones) at an event for James Randi's foundation in like 05 or 04, and spoke to him for quite a while. I am pretty convinced he's a true believer. He may play up the theatricality, but most of the subjects he discusses are real to him.

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Have you considered reading Them: Adventures with Extremists? It's a great read. From the author's description:

> A wide variety of extremist groups -- Islamic fundamentalists, neo-Nazis -- share the oddly similar belief that a tiny shadowy elite rule the world from a secret room. In Them, journalist Jon Ronson has joined the extremists to track down the fabled secret room.