Reddit reviews Therm-a-Rest Z Lite Original Ultralight Foam Camping Pad, Model Number: 040818023020
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Lightweight and compact closed-cell foam camping mattress is a durable, dependable, and economical option for sleeping on the groundTrusted by mountaineers and backpackers for generations, the classic pad features folding accordion-style construction that is compact and easily packableDesigned with dimples in the padding to capture and trap heat for extra warmth in cold conditions, ensuring a cushioned and cozy night’s sleep (R-Value 1. 7)Sleeping pad foam is softer on the top for comfort, and denser on the bottom for extra insulation, durability, and protection from the groundMolded foam mattress measures 72 x 20 inches (20 x 5 x 5. 5 inches folded) and weighs 14 ounces; made in the USASport type: Camping & Hiking
This plus two of these (one to sleep on and one to sleep under) is all you need.
Cots aren't worth the space needed and air mattresses aren't worth the time it takes to set them up, the noise with it, or the space.
REI's Backpacking Tips for Beginners is a good place to start.
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-beginners.html
You'll notice the first section is "Find an Experienced Partner". While this sub and others can give you a lot of advice, it's not a substitute for a partner who knows what they're doing. That doesn't mean you can't just go out and "wing it"... if you do, don't bite off more than you can chew. Better to take a few shorter overnights just to get used to things before heading out into the backcountry and having an epic. And I think you need a permits for Yos/Mammoth, so better look into that.
The REI list discusses shared gear and personal gear. Most likely an experienced partner is going to already own a tent, stove, cookware... but if it's just two of you with no gear, you'll have to pick up both shared and personal gear. How you want to split the cost is up to you.
The checklists are nice... but before you go out and buy everything on the list, make sure you will actually need them. Start with the basics; tent, bag, pad, pack, headlamp, FAK, maps & compass, stove, pot, utensils, shoes and clothing... and then go from there.
Here's the REI backpacking checklist:
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-checklist.html
It's comprehensive, but remember you don't need everything on the list. It's pretty common for a beginner to go out and spend way too much money, and then start leaving stuff home as they find they don't need it on the trail.
REI is a great place to spend (a lot of) money. They've got very nice gear, and a great return policy if the gear doesn't work for you... but you'll pay full retail if you just walk in and buy the gear. With a membership, all full price items return 10% to you at the end of the year so it's not too bad, and they have seasonal 20% off coupons which do help. It's a good place to pick up a pack since they can help getting you one that fits, which goes a long way to a comfortable hike. Ditto with shoes, and you can try out mattress pads and see what's comfortable for you.
You can buy other things elsewhere like Amazon... but it's recommended that you go to a gear shop to try on packs (and buy it there to support the store).
Here are a few recommendations:
Pack - Gregory and Osprey are often recommended. For a beginner, 50L-60L is a good size. Don't get a 70L pack, you'll just end up bringing more gear than you need. Try the pack on, load it up with weights, and make sure it fits and carries well. Sometimes the REI packs will fit you better than others... if that's the case get the REI (and save a few bucks).
Tent - Huge range of products here. The Lynx is a decent starter tent for the cost. It'll probably last a few years, and by then hopefully you'll have more money and more experience and get something you like better.
Sleeping bag - If you can afford a down bag, that's great, they're lighter and pack smaller than synthetic bags. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a good bag for the price.
Pad - Look at the basic inflatables (keep in mind the R-value if you're thinking of going later in the season) like the Thermarest ProLite. Some stick with foam pads like the Thermarest Z Lite pad to save money. Try them out and see what you like.
Stove - The MSR PocketRocket is ol' reliable. Lot of people have them, but the new MSR PocketRocket 2 is more compact and lighter. There are some cheap (< $15) stoves on Amazon, the Etekcity and BRS 3000T... people have been using them but they're small and more suited to people who are just boiling water for dehydrated meals rather than those who actually cook.
Cookset - Don't spend money on a 12 piece cookset...they're cool, but at some point you'll probably figure out you only need a shared pot and a mug for each person. And maybe a small fry pan. Depends on what you want to eat out there. Anodized aluminum is light and sturdy, but more expensive than other options. Titanium is super light, but doesn't disperse heat well so it's great for boiling water, but not so much for cooking non-liquid meals. Stainless steel is heavy but will last many years.
Spork - so many sporks out there... long handled spoons work better for getting food from the bottom of a packet.
Headlamp - Get a decent headlamp. Black Diamond Spot is a nice one, Petzl makes some nice ones as well.
Good luck!
Therm-a-rest has the Zlite on sale on amazon. Z Lite Sol for $26/$33Zlite for $30
Most of their inflatables are sale on amazon also.
So slap one of these things
underneath my inflatable?
Them-a-rest Z life and I have taken so many camping trips way better than a air matter no blowing up
Therm-a-Rest Z Lite Original Ultralight Foam Camping Pad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00453NA1E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZtjxCbFR0QQNQ
Therm-a-Rest ZLite is the most popular option. $40
You could try a knock off. Likely less durable, comfortable, quality. $10 is a good deal though.
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The real answer is that no foam pad is 'really' comfortable. I'd need a combination foam + air pad to feel really comfortable (or just air).
Something like this would take up little room and not cost too much.
[(http://www.amazon.com/Therm--Z-Lite-Sleeping-Regular-Coyote/dp/B00453NA1E/ref=sr_1_10?s=outdoor-recreation&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1334495848&amp;sr=1-10)]
Tarp:
Option 1: https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B06XJ7322N/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1538600945&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=ul%2Btarp&th=1&psc=1
Option 2 (more durable): https://www.amazon.com/DD-Tarp-3m-Olive-Green/dp/B005FPN7GE/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601289&sr=1-3&keywords=dd+tarp
Bug net: https://www.amazon.com/Breeze-Mesh-Tent-Ultralight-Backpacking/dp/B01NA9BU4Q/ref=pd_bxgy_468_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01NA9BU4Q&pd_rd_r=a541965e-c750-11e8-83ba-35492fd40af5&pd_rd_w=5VWOY&pd_rd_wg=3uCes&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3f9889ac-6c45-46e8-b515-3af650557207&pf_rd_r=X7JJ3Y8J81XVAAR36D9Y&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=X7JJ3Y8J81XVAAR36D9Y
Quilt: http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-econ-40/ (get a warmer one if you need it)
Sleeping pad: https://www.amazon.com/Therm-Rest-Original-Ultralight-Camping/dp/B00453NA1E/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601159&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=thermarest+zlite+sol&psc=1
You will need trekking poles for the tarp/tent or save a few bucks and find a couple of sticks when you get there!
Trekking poles: https://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-Hiking-Walking-Trekking/dp/B007YT854S/ref=sr_1_3_acs_ac_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601222&sr=1-3-acs&keywords=trekking+poles
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Pack: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-granite-gear-crown-x60
No worries!
It works wonders, so long as it's tight! (Preventing pooling, moving in the wind etc. Sleep a lot better when you aren't hearing shit flapping over your head.) You can put it long and low in windier conditions or taller when you are pretty well covered.
The way you had your's setup would normally require either: A) Two of those things zipped together, or B) A much much wider one to cover both sides and the ground.
Really, it looks like you were trying to keep yourself out of the dirt, which is where the bivvy comes in normally. Obviously if absolute what-can-I-deal-with-minimalist is what your going for, you are on the right track.
OH OH OH! (Sorry I get excited when I talk about this kind of stuff.)
Check this out: The Z-Lite from Thermarest. They DO make a rollup that will probably last longer since it isn't being folded, but I love the fold since it can be packed in one fluid motion if you have to di di mau.
Besides some (questionable) wear due to the square shape/folding, the only complaint I have for it so far (besides permanently taking up residence on a pack) is that it doesn't cover up really rough terrain quite as well as an personal air-mattress (I'm pretty light so I was able to make due on rocks and roots, but a heavier-set person might have issues, and it's a bit thin for the winter. As usual, YMMV. I've seen them stocked at just about any serious outdoor/camping/hunting store.
Happy camping!
I look forward to checking out your blog more often, I'm hoping to get a piece of property the size of yours one day, the mind reels with possibilities!
NINJA EDIT: I forgot a critical downside to my praise of the Z-Lite and bivvy. They actually don't go together quite as well as other gear because of how easily it folds, so it's a bit of a pain to actually put the sucker inside the bivvy and keep everything totally clean and dry. But if you couldn't care less if your mattress gets a bit dirty and you don't roll around like a Reliant Robin it's good to go.
my sister took a bass to GC (Seattle or maybe Kirkland and they sold her a hardshell and gave a big box that took extra padding around the case. This is the best shock absorber for outside the case(sell at REI)
http://www.amazon.com/Therm-Z-Lite-Sleeping-Regular-Coyote/dp/B00453NA1E
And don't worry, count how many times Hendrix had to bash his on the ground to break it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOzhbj1BVOU