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This Changes Everything Capitalism vs the Climate
Check out her book on climate change if you never want to fucking sleep again.
For the longer version of this article I really recommend Klein's book This Changes Everything. Even if you think you might reflexively dislike Klein's work because of the anti-capitalist stances she has taken on many issues, it's extremely well-written, and I found it well-researched and thought-provoking too. At the very least, if you think of yourself as an intellectual, open to good ideas and not rooted in any particular ideologies, and especially if you understand that free markets aren't perfect, you ought to consider her thoughts on the matter.
My environmental politics course is discussing Naomi Klein and I'm dying inside.
Written, I assume, by William Connolly himself, or another acolyte of the RealClimate/Fenton Communications PR machine.
Here's Klein,of course,
http://www.amazon.com/This-Changes-Everything-Capitalism-Climate/dp/1451697392
Sure, and I'm sure others would have suggestions as well.
If you're curious about /u/MrAffinity's comment, Pope Francis touches on this a bit, but good books in that vein would be This Changes Everything by Naomi Klein and Tropic of Chaos by Christian Parenti.
I'll probably have more unsolicited suggestions but need to look at my bookshelves.
Nice idea (if it would work), but where's the profit in that?
We all know that we'd be better off if we stopped using anti-biotics for farm animals too. But under the greed-based logic of our capitalist economic system, that does not happen.
Thus, the odds of this actually occurring is nil or next to nothing. As Naomi Klein has repeatedly stressed -- even writing a book on it -- the choice is capitalism versus the climate.
We're going to have to change a lot of minds to choose the climate and to abandon capitalism for proposals like this to work -- or to even have a chance of passing in our warped political system.
Nice list. You missed off Naomi
OrskesKlein's book: "This changes everything: Capitalism Vs The Climate"Naomi is one of the nutters behind the shit digging on Exxon.(It's Naomi Orskes who is one of the nutters behind the shit digging on Exxon, not Klein. But my God they look identical).Edit: I was wrong. H/t Fungus.
This book is more of a political/economic approach to global warming, but I really enjoyed This Changes Everything by Naomi Klein. It has a decent amount of issues and is pretty slanted politically, but you rarely hear about how drastically different our relationship to economics and politics and the environment will have to be if we are to seriously combat global warming. While the whole Paris Accord is pretty groundbreaking, it leaves out how seriously different our lives will be in 50-100 years if we want meaningful change. Take this one with a grain of salt because it is kind of pop-non-fictiony, but Klein does put forth some really interesting points.
 
If you want a more scientific read, check out Climate Change: The Facts. I enjoyed this book because my father works at an atmospheric research center and we always talk about how poorly climate change (and really all fields in science) are portrayed in the media, which is where most people get their information on it. It's pretty dense but I enjoyed it.
Sorry for the delay! I hear you. I grew up in similar surroundings in the southeastern US and then moved to NYC after graduating thinking there I’d finally be surrounded by woke intellectuals who question everything. Got involved in politics. Turns out people have been pretty brainwashed for about 3 generations now, the people in highest levels of government and business are only making shit up as they go, and it’s literally the blind leading the blind everywhere you turn. Everyone in life is just faking it until they make it - you, me, everyone. Some do have more of a financial/socioeconomic advantage than others.
On one hand that’s a horrifying realization since we grow up instilled with this idea that there’s some sense of order to the world, that people are out there with more experience than us who have a plan and know what they’re doing. Trust the system, trust the hierarchy, obey. On the other hand, realizing that’s all BS is also liberating because it means you can lead by first always always always questioning everything, then learning how to synthesize and articulate these ideas for the people around you, and online if you participate in discourse/discussion groups.
Idk where you stand politically, but for starters - one thing that really kickstarted my awakening and changed my worldview was reading This Changes Everything by Naomi Klein. It’s bleak at first, really makes you feel nihilistic how these corporations exploit disaster for profit and NGOs that are supposed to provide relief end up playing into the system because they’re run just like corporations. BUT once you get through that, Klein starts to show you how we get out of this mess.
The other thing I read early on that changed my life is Dark Ecology by Tim Morton. He’s an object oriented ontologist and tries to lay out a new way of thinking about ourselves our systems and our society in the Anthropocene because our current frameworks are way outdated - dating back to 12,000 years ago when humans first started transitioning from hunting/gathering to agriculture. He takes you on a fascinating journey about how this illusion of separating ourselves from nature has shaped the way most people think today.
I’m probably not doing either book any justice but they really helped me start to articulate these things I’ve always felt were wrong but didn’t have the language for yet. Klein is a well known journalist (The Nation, The Intercept) and Morton is a professor currently at Rice University). Check them out:
This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. The Climate https://www.amazon.com/dp/1451697392/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_G-eRAbB05R3CY
Dark Ecology: For a Logic of Future Coexistence (The Wellek Library Lectures) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0231177526/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_9-eRAb1HD75J7
Thanks for the recommendation. I've got a lot of "left-leaning" books (well, some of them) on my list now that all sound interesting, and Debt is definitely a high priority because people keep recommending it.
Have you read any of his other work? Bullshit Jobs sounds really interesting but a couple reviews said the original article he wrote on the topic pretty much sums the book up in a much lower word count.
A few of the books on my to-read list in case anyone sees this and is interested:
I just started reading this book - This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. The Climate https://www.amazon.com/dp/1451697392/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_p0NEDbMXXGD98
Nice, but as Naomi Klein has repeatedly pointed out (and wrote a book on), global warming requires abandoning capitalism, no matter how much money initiatives like this generate.
First off, thank you. This response was amazing and thorough.
> We need to maintain the ability to talk about these processes with lay people without them assuming that AGW=CO2. Since then we have to try and reeducate them before we can even start explaining what's changed.
My only "qualifications" in this realm would be from Naomi Klein's This Changes Everything. I'm interested on your take of the book if you have read it. But more importantly, as a layman in this regard, what books can I read that would educate me on the topic? Ironically, I work as a software developer at an environmental agency maintaining their financial applications. I'm not a scientist, but would love to learn more.
> I presume you didn't live through the era of actual AGW denial but people that don't want to hear their actions are negative will grasp at anything to ignore/disprove your opinion.
I grew up and currently live in the south eastern part of the US and denial is most of the conversation, regardless of age. It's pretty shocking.
Sorry, but your fear mongering does not sway me. The world is greening and crop production is skyrocketing. The only people suffering are the farmers who face a glut of production driving down prices because of too much food production. And there is no evidence of an acceleration in sea level rise. But, as I said, if the Maldives go under this year, I will be a believer. And tomorrow the new sea level data comes out and I will check like I do every month to see if there is a rise off the trend. Thus far we are below trend.
But, yes too much of something is generally not good. Too much oxygen is bad. But I am more concerned about too little CO2 and all the plants dying than I am about too much.
How can you not follow the wealth distribution narrative?
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/
"Have doubts? Then listen to the words of former United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer:
"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole," said Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015."
So what is the goal of environmental policy?
"We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy," said Edenhofer.
Whole books are written on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/This-Changes-Everything-Capitalism-Climate/dp/1451697392/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
reading the article made me think of this brilliant woman.
This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. The Climate
by Naomi Klein
“The most important book yet from the author of the international bestseller The Shock Doctrine, a brilliant explanation of why the climate crisis challenges us to abandon the core “free market” ideology of our time, restructure the global economy, and remake our political systems.”
“In short, either we embrace radical change ourselves or radical changes will be visited upon our physical world. The status quo is no longer an option.”
https://www.amazon.com/This-Changes-Everything-Capitalism-Climate/dp/1451697392/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469482324&sr=8-1&keywords=naomi+kline
"The most momentous and contentious environmental book since Silent Spring.” (Rob Nixon The New York Times Book Review)