Reddit reviews Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick for PS4 & PC

Agreed, ED and Onward are the only VR games I've passed 100 hours in. For those looking for a HOTAS and don't want to break the bank, I bought this one 2.5 years ago for $50... it's on prime for $39 now so there's no excuse! It's plug and play for most HOTAS supported games, like ED, as it's a popular one. The Throttle and Joystick do detatch, though there's a cord between them. This might convince you to upgrade for a bigger HOTAS, but it's more than adequate for my occasional Elite Dangerous sessions.

Edit: there's an upgraded version for a few bucks more. Credit to /u/stringentthot

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The T.Flight Hotas 4 (PS4/PC version) is $70 on Amazon. I'd expect the Hotas One to be a similar price

If you can afford it I wholly recommend the new Hotas ThrustMaster. Plug and play for ps4. small driver download for pc.

As far as I know, the only HOTAS with out-of-the-box support for PS4 is the Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS 4. I would love to see it supported, and would buy the game the instant it became available for that reason alone despite already owning it on Xbox.

Hands On Throttle And Stick. (Had to look it ip myself a while ago). A joystick and throttle. Here is the one for PS4

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

(not sure if others besides this one will work on the system). Ordered one myself to maybe try it out. Might see how it works on the PS4 controller first though.

Here's the only one that I know of that works with the PS4. Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick for PS4 & PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_p2ozzb8XHV38Y
I have it and LOVE IT! It took a bit of time to customize the controls to my liking, but once I got used to it, I can't go back to a controller.

Flight stick https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015PJ68BK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491012906&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hotas+4

It's the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 I bought it at Best Buy for about $60. Currently, EVE Valkerie Elite Dangerous and War Thunder support it. Upcoming Ace Combat 7 and I'm sure other flight based games will as well. EVE alone makes it amazing!

Here's one for $69.99

And here's one for $39.81

Haven't used either one, but I've heard they're pretty decent.

I am new to DCS, a long time flight sim nut and working on my pilot's license. I bought many of the planes (A-10C, F/A-18C, FC3 and the F-5E). I could not decide so it was better to buy them all since they were on sale lol! What I found out was the F-18 and the F-5E are the two I enjoy with the F-5E what I am enjoying most. I feel more like I am having to work more to fly it but in a good way. Fun to startup but not excessive, fun to fly and land. I think I actually like that I do not have all of the toys. The aggressors campaign for the F-5E has been fun to learn on since I also bought the Nevada map. The F/A-18C is a weapons platform, but the real joy is taking off and landing on a carrier.

I bought a cheap HOTAS as I just could not fly with the XBOX controller. It know that it is not the Warthog HOTAS (maybe Christmas 2019 now that there is the F/A-18 add-on stick), but for $70, I cannot stress how much better it is without a deep investment. I got a friend in on the game and he got the A-10C because he wants close quarters bombing and strafing runs and he bought the PS4 version of my stick and loving it.

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https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-One-xbox/dp/B07643TW2V?th=1

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https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK/

The Thrustmaster HOTAS X is a very inexpensive HOTAS at only $50 USD.

It's a perfectly serviceable unit, though it's rather lacking in buttons (meaning the need for either the keyboard for more buttons or a more complicated control scheme, like ths) and is somewhat imprecise. It also has a bit of annoyance in the form of the fairly short cable connecting the stick and throttle. This means it only uses a single USB port, but also prevents you from doing things like mounting it to the arms of a chair unless you lengthen the cable by splicing it. It has 12 buttons (trigger, 3 more on the stick head, 2 on the throttle base, and 7 on the throttle), twist stick, and a rudder rocker on the back of the throttle.

The Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 is a upgraded version of the HOTAS X, available for $64. As the name says, it's designed to work with the PS4 in addition to PC. Externally, it's identical, though internally, it has a smaller deadzone for better sensitivity.

Moving up the price band, the Thrusmaster T16000m FCS can be had for $128. This is a refreshed version of Thrustmaster's venerable T16000m stick combined with an all new throttle. Compared to the X, the 16000m has many more controls, with a total of 19 buttons (trigger and 3 on the stick, 12 on the stick base, and 3 on the throttle), a two-way switch, two 4-way hats, two 8-way hats, an analog stick, a dial, rudder rocker, twist stick, and a mini throttle. It also has much smoother and more precise action than the X. The stick and throttle each have their own independent cables and each needs a USB port, so you might want to add a hub to your shopping list. All of the pieces can be purchased together or separately, and pedals are also available. Both the stick and throttle have holes for mounting screws if you want to do something interesting.

I've personally used both the HOTAS X and the T16000m FCS, the latter of which is my current HOTAS.

Be prepared.

I never played on the PC, but I have it on the XBOX. honestly, I don't think you'll be missing much. The controls are super solid, and if it doesn't quite fit what you need, you can always tweak it. I've personally never had any issues with it, in fact, I'm still using the default controls.

Also, on PS4, if you REALLY want a HOTAS, you can definitely order some for cheap. I'm debating it myself.

But all in all, the controls are super solid! I wouldn't be very worried.

Also, check out /r/ElitePS for the PS4 player of Elite!

No, they make one:
Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick for PS4 & PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UG4-zbSZG3JCS

Just bought the ps4 one at best buy today
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Stick-PS4/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482985967&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+hotas+ps4

The hotas x seems to be the more popular option but one of the reviews on the ps4 one said there was more degrees of freedom for movement. I haven't used it yet but I'm sure you can't go wrong with the cheaper stick.

This is a good starter flight stick that actually works amazingly well.

Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS 4

Thrustmaster just released another HOTAS set that is getting pretty good reviews. There used to be a huge gap between the $50 and $200 segment. Any HOTAS within that range were too expensive and too crappy to even consider. So for anyone who wanted something a little more versatile had to make the huge jump to something in the hundreds of dollars. Thrustmaster seems to have fixed that.

Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Controller

Past this, I personally would recommend CH Products. Pretty pricey and, honestly, not much to look at. But what you really pay for is absolute durability, longevity, and versatility. CH Products has been building HOTAS systems for decades now, and there's people who still have their original sticks and throttles, but just rewired the old joystick ports to USB, and they still friggin' work. I have the Fighterstick USB, and the Pro Throttle USB.

It is very likely this will support it.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK/

One of the mods stated it "should". But I'd wait for confirmation on that. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/313806-HOTAS-Support?p=4887079

I did a quick google search:

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/products/tflight-rudder-pedals

I ordered this Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick
and this Thrustmaster VG T150.

I like that they'll be compatible with both Vive and Oculus and, since I have a PS4 and plan on getting PSVR, they should be compatible with the PS4 too. Very rare to find hardware compatibility across the board like that.

I had a gift card for Amazon so I ended up getting this

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

It snaps apart so I could always move it around or whatever. Everything is right handed apparently any way. And I didn't want to get a refurbished or used 3D pro. Plus I also have a PS4 so if anything ever comes out for it, I'll have compatibility. The PS4 is better than my computer so here's to hoping.

Flight stick

I've never used it, but there is a HOTAS that is compatible/made for the PS4. There's one game that uses it right now. It'll be up to Frontier if the want to design the game to use joystick support.

I don't have a HOTAS, but from lurking on the forums/doing some research,) the Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 is the only one to work on the PS4.

just you wait. you may be interested in getting a /r/hotas setup to play warthunder (Free+paid DLC), DCS (also Free+paid DLC), elite: dangerous($30), star citizen ($45), mechwarrior 4 (free), star fighter arduxim ($5), or vector 36 ($25). all great games to play with a set up. You can get an entry level one for $60 (Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 is your best bang/buck/skill) The feeling of using a physical throttle and joystick to fly and turn make my greatest experiences in VR.

This probably is the cheapest HOTAS you could get: https://www.amazon.in/dp/B015PJ68BK

I've used the old PS3 version of this. Pretty good. Throttle wasn't that great though. It had an annoying notch right at the middle which meant precise adjustments weren't easy. Not sure if the newer version changed it.

If I purchase the HOTAS 4 - https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

What do I use instead of the pedals? I really want to get pedals for it, but they are apparently hard to find and more expensive than the HOTAS4 for some reason. So I'm really curious on

1. What do you use instead of the pedals
   
   
2. How does it feel without the pedals? Is it worth it to buy the HOTAS4 and then maybe one day get pedals for it
   
   Thanks in advance anyone who can answer this for me!

Might get this for it....

http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_XpoxxbV0NF39T

Might I suggest you instead consider the Thrustmaster Hotas T.Flight 4, which is essentially the same as the older X model but with a tighter dead zone and upgradable firmware.

It's about $8 more than the Hotas X, but newer, better dead zone, upgradable firmware, still under $50, and has the great reputation of the Hotas X behind it too. And it works great with Elite. Here's a reddit thread on the detailed differences between the two joysticks.

Ok so if they are using the Brook USB converter then in theory you could also make use of their model that converts PS3/PS4 peripherals to the xbox one. I know that the PS4 has a decent flight stick available:

https://www.amazon.ca/THRUSTMASTER-TMST4169083-Playstation4-T-Flight-Thunder/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484271119&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4+flight+stick

Someone with more money than me should test this out so we can all jump on the HOTAS bandwagon.

Should also be mentioned that the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas is at a new low price for amazon.

Yeah, I bought mine on Amazon for $70 - worth every penny.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015PJ68BK/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015PJ68BK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I knew nothing about them and didn't want to get a super expensive one without ever having used one or played Elite at the time. This is the HOTAS4 from thrustmaster. You can pick up a HOTAS X from them for $10 cheaper but this one works with the PS4 too (not that many games support it but with VR on the way, better safe than sorry). Love it so far, can't really give it any negatives other than that the cable between the two pieces being a bit short but that's where the hobby part kicks in.

Yes, the Thrustmaster t.flight hotas 4 it's a decent stick and you can use it on PC as well. I don't own a PS4 and use it only for DCS on PC but it works well. I also used it to play AC 5 and Zero on PCSX2 and had no complaints. But I can't vouch for how it works on PS4.

For Canadians, amazon.ca has the War Thunder edition of the T.Flight HOTAS 4 joystick on sale for $70, or a significant 30% off. ca.camelcamelcamel.com says it's the lowest price it's been since it started tracking the product.

https://www.amazon.ca/THRUSTMASTER-TMST4169083-Playstation4-T-Flight-Thunder/dp/B015PJ68BK

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

Guessing not. I have the the Thrustmaster stick (https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK) and War Thunder is the only thing that I am aware of that it works with - I don't think there is anything even announced for upcoming games. I am crossing my fingers for some Ace Combat support.

Though I haven't used this, it seems pretty popular:

Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 Flight Stick for PS4 & PC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_x0lNAb8HNNQSN

Didn't phase hotas. Please consider the thrust master for PS4 it changed the game allot for me. Ships respond so much better.

Edit: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK

Amazon still shows $36.99

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1537451071&sr=1-3&keywords=HOTAS#customerReviews

here's the PS4 compatible one

Be happy, they only just announced the xbox one hotas.

hit down on your dpad, that equalises your power distribution, then you can put all pips to engines, which give you full access to the power of them. It's been a while since I had to deal with sublight engines, (I set off on my trip about three months ago now) but if memory serves you hit up for engines. If you're going flight assist off, it's full reverse. You'll stop going in the blink of an eye. Flight assist on, just zero your throttle and you stop.

holo-me Yes, that suit gives me butler gloves, but I like it

This Thrustmaster is the only one supported as far as I know. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Stick-PS4/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500310371&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+t.flight+hotas+4

That said, I'm confused why it's listed so expensive here. I only paid like $50 new for mine on amazon. Maybe there's a new one coming out? Hopefully someone else can elaborate better than I can on this topic.

They released an "updated" version for the PS4 that has caused the PS3 version to drop in price over here. Of course, all they did to "update" it was raise the MSRP $20 and swap out the red/orange accents for blue.

See here:

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457457316&sr=8-1&keywords=hotas+ps4

this one you can order right now and it has the ps4 logo on it. Or did i miss here something ?

PS4 Flight Controls

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Keyboard and Mouse support is an issue that’s a lot more nuanced than people may expect. For one thing, you have to point out whether you’re talking about system support or game support. If it’s system support, native console keyboard and mouse support (on the PlayStation side at least) has been around since the PS1, which means that yes, the PS4 does have native keyboard and mouse support. The support issue comes into play with what games support, and really it’s just the fault of developers that most console games don’t have keyboard and mouse support.

A handful of console games have keyboard and mouse support, even some popular ones like Fortnite, Paladins, and Final Fantasy XIV, but most developers just opt not to include it into their console ports. One excuse if seen is that “consoles come with controllers, not keyboards and mice.” The problem with that idea is that it’s not balanced like that when it comes to PC ports, where they’ll have kb+m support and controller support, even though, you know, PCs don’t come with controllers. Another idea is that kb+m support would “give console players an unfair advantage.” However not only does that idea not stem to PC, where you can get an advantage in games by using specialised controllers for racing, flight, and fighting games, but tools like the Xim Apex and Hori Tactical Assault allow people to use keyboard and mouse on consoles, which means that only people who can afford them have that advantage. In that way, allowing universal kb+m support on consoles would actually balance things out by allowing all players to share that advantage, not just the ones who can afford $100+ conversion tools.

Developers tend to show extra love to PC players, and tend to under-support console players. It’s another part of the issue that people seem to view one option as the “better option,” which makes them underestimate or even look down on the “other option.” That’s not the fault of consoles, it’s the fault of people not wanting to treat them like a real gaming platform.

if you want to buy one here you go and its not a bad stick for the price either.

Just a heads up.. I'm not entirely sure this works with E:D, but I really don't see why it wouldn't since it emulates the controller buttons..

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Stick-PS4/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498501713&sr=8-1&keywords=hotas+ps4

Based on what i see here in the "
From the Manufacturer" Information section it looks to be exclusive to the PS4. You could try it though. It's also possible to redeem it on PS4 then use your PS4 account on PC. You will just have a next to your name (like Caraval)

Edit: You will also have some other PS4 Related limitations on what you can do on PC if you use a PS4 account. I don't remember what they are though.

and if you REALLY get into it, here's the best entry level HOTAS,

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1536066527&sr=8-2&keywords=hotas+x

Also when you run out of buttons or don't want to fiddle with alternative button/key bindings, (though you can, Elite is very impressive in this regard) Voice Attack makes for easy and customizable voice controls/macros on the cheap. There's nothing like approaching a station and telling your computer, "prep for landing" and having all your systems automatically switch. Love it.

https://voiceattack.com/

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So this one then?

I’ll assume these are a must and are compatible as well?

its already out https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

Sheesh, these look closer together than CH's pedals

EDIT: I see these are listed for PS4 also. So I feel these are a low-end option and perhaps not their upcoming mainline one. A HOTAS X has also been put out for PS4 just recently as well.

I would not recommend the saitek if you want your joystick to last. You would be considered lucky if yours lasts an entire year. Instead, I would recommend getting two of these (using two joysticks is amazing), or one of these, or get a 16000M and buy a separate throttle (you can find the x52 throttle on ebay. The mouse nub on the throttle is worth having).

I just bought one of these on a recommendation elsewhere in this thread. Do you have any recommendation for wheels?

get a cheap hotas controller, it makes for a much better experience. its "ok" with keyboard and mouse or xbox controller, but "fun as hell" with a hotas. i have this one which unfortunately is way more expensive now than when i bought it a year ago :( (i paid 40 usd for it)

> Voice Attack

Woah Voice Attack looks awesome! Man I don't need another distraction but it seems like ED + Hotas is a good way to immerse. Might have to do it. Do you think I could get away with this for a starter https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1465620334&sr=1-4&keywords=hotas ?

PS4 makes sense. Get a Morpheus later and one of these http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-playstation-4/dp/B015PJ68BK?ie=UTF8&keywords=tflight%20hotas%20x&qid=1465309968&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2

You'll be set.