Reddit reviews Trust Me, I'm Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator

I disagree that it's any sort of new trend, the people's desire for lies and gossip and hyperbole has always been there. I've lived it long before the last ten years of Huffington Post and Upworthy and Buzzfeed.

Tangentially related, you'd probably love the book Trust Me I'm Lying

I've been really put off by the way they have been marketing Series 8 (I think a lot of the "leaks" (including the leaked scripts/episodes and the rummor about Jenna) have been intentional and part of their marketing strategy). I have questions about just why Matt's contract wasn't renewed and about what happened to Chris to make him leave after one series.

All of that goes to your "I wonder what's happening at BBC right now." comment. I've been wondering too, but about different things.

It's straight up media manipulation.

WaPo making money off legitimizing Breitbart is wrong.

You are right to criticize this.

Try

You Are Not So Smart:
http://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Not-So-Smart/dp/1592407366

Trust Me, I'm Lying: {the second part of the book}
http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Lying-Confessions-Manipulator-ebook/dp/B0074VTHH0/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374416648&sr=1-1&keywords=Trust+Me%2C+I%27m+Lying%3A+Confessions+of+a+Media+Manipulator

And this are not books but they will open your eyes {I strongly suggest you dont watch this if you can't stand blood or violence }

Interview with a Cannibal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BosZxa1bYcE

Karachi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgIl1vmIchA

Slaves of Dubai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU

Yeah and I mean no offense, but this seems a bit much:

> He sucks, as does the writing for this season. This is the opinion I hear almost universally in face to face conversation. The only place I see good things said about him is online. That leads me to believe that there is a major covert marketing push being made.

>I no longer trust what I see here as being representative of the community.

"Trust Me, I'm Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator" is a good read on that topic.

I highly recommend the book Trust Me, I'm Lying. Does a pretty good job of explaining the hows and whys of media coverage, and why easy stories are often promoted over important stories.

Link for the lazy: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0074VTHH0/

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0074VTHH0?btkr=1

This is how all news on the internet works. You can also use this to make your product/lie you wish to propagate or whatever "go viral". How you do it is basically tip a smallish blog or two and within the next little while bigger blogs/sites will pick it up without crediting the original source so that your little lie becomes truth. To find out more about this you can read Trust Me I'm Lying by Ryan Holiday.

> it is for people to talk about a place

And yet we have moved all moving/city questions to 'askPortland'.

Antifa and the PB's are TINY FRINGE groups who's activities promote and always end in violence (remember the 'punch a nazi' signs?). This is about 500 people total that show up at these events. Hardly any statistical amount of Portlanders - yet we give them a constant platform to promote their rhetoric and violence.

I say it's time to yank that platform from them or at least stop giving them more screen and news time than their tiny fringe activities deserve. Racism has no place in Portland. Violence has no place in Portland. I stand up to them both. We are a nation of laws. If you got a friggen gripe - then be part of the solution of fixing those systems, changing laws, and creating something great. Not trashing our parks and turning a block or two of our city into thunderdome on a monthly basis.

It's a tactic both the PB's and Antfi are taking full advantage of to make them seem far larger than the few hundred extremists they are. A social media tactic well documented here:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0074VTHH0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

> The expectation only people who live in the city will post on this sub is laughable.

It is laughable - because you were the only one that brought that idea up.


But perhaps you're right. It does seem like attendance at these clown-fests seems to continually be dropping. Maybe people are becoming smarter.

> Here's the thing: whether it's extremist feminism or alt-right morons; whether it's over-the-top political correctness or blatant racism; whether it's SJWs-gone-wild or gamergate red-pill misogynists -- they all represent an element that most people never have to interact with in day-to-day life.

This is exactly what I mean. One of these things is not like the other, and I've bolded the one for you that is bullshit.

When you describe /r/JWs, you'll get a description that the members agree with: A subreddit of Jehovah's Witnesses. When you describe T_D, you'll get a description that the members agree with: A get a subreddit of Trump fans.

This is not the case with KiA, the main subreddit of Gamergate. When you just described GG, you described something entirely different from their nature. I was there at its inception, when GG started criticising the gaming press for doing things like giving positive coverage of friends and relationships without disclaimers. I saw that the gaming press retaliated by painting their critics as misogynists. I saw third parties such as some crowds on Something Awful and the GNAA celebrate as the other press uncritically took that over. All it took was asking people on KiA what they thought. But they didn't do that.

KiA is not the fringe of society. It's circlejerky, yes, but its anti-censorship is not fringe at all, and it's far from what you believe it to be. In fact, if these topics piss you off, that is exactly what you share with them. You get pissed off by university presidents that do not tolerate statements like "it’s okay to be white"? You're now getting lumped in with "red-pill misogynists", yay.

It really reminds me of what happened to the atheism community when Atheism Plus reared its ugly head. This is something you'll eventually encounter too; something you care about will be misrepresented because it works better for the outrage machine. It's media manipulation at its finest.

Yes - the bill that's trying to get signatures is not just research. It's advocating for broad legalization in public use - before we even know what it's effects are.

Sure, legalize for labratory tests. But just turning something like this loose on the general population with almost no idea of the short or long term effects is irresponsible. No?

Also, let's us just be honest. This is just the usual Overton window social media astroturfing by the Oregon Psilocybin Society.

Read "Trust Me I'm Lying" by Ryan Holiday. He was doing this stuff long before you guys started.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0074VTHH0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1