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Enjoy top-rated HDTV network programming on channels like CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC and more; Your favorite shows for free (no more cable bills) with no monthly fee or subscription; Great complement to streaming players and dependable backup source when storms knock out cable or satelliteReceives TV broadcasts including 4K, 8K and 1080 HDTV for highest-quality picture and sound - both UHF and VHF stations – with up to 70+ mile range from the broadcast towersWithstands tough outdoor conditions with durable construction and materials; Superior reception outdoors or even when mounted in the atticEasy installation with pre-assembled design, easy-lock fold-out UHF reflector and snap-lock elements; Includes mast, locking mast clamp, mounting hardware and 75-ohm matching transformer (coax cable sold separately)The free RCA Signal Finder app is your digital compass that guides you to the most high definition channels and aligns your antenna perfectly
This is all you need for your UHF/VHF needs. It picks up all local affiliates: NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, and CW.
RCA also has a Signal Finder app that will show you where to point it for maximum reception.
I cancelled DirectTV Now when Sling picked up Discovery. Now Sling lost Fox Sports SW. I’m probably going to head back to cable.
Also, you are not dumb. Good luck!
I got this antenna. I average about 30 miles to all the major stations in my area and I mounted the antenna inside my attic with a low noise amp. Looking at the signal map you provided I think a similar setup should work for you. Good luck!
Get this bad boy:
My only problem was it was TOO good for my area (I have some green channels). It would catch the signal AND the little bit of signal bouncing off the buildings near me would cancel it out and cause interference.
I fixed it by pointing it in the wrong direction at a weird angle, which meant it now only picks up the small reflected signal on those good channels. My picture has been crystal clear since that day on every channel, rain or shine.
Not to say you will have that experience exactly, but it's a good antenna.
You can also watch NFL games free over the air with a cheap antenna depending on your location / how close to the broadcast towers you are. In my case I had to use this $45 outdoor antenna that I simply mounted in place of the old DirecTV satellite. I'm about 30 miles from towers and I could probably use a slightly larger one because occasionally I get a little bit of static or signal drop.
Even if you paid for every one of those streaming services and bought a $100 antenna you'd be paying less yearly than a cable subscription.
WESH is the toughest to get, from my experience. I live near downtown Melbourne and here's what I did:
I have this antenna mounted to this pole and run into this amplifier, which then goes to all of my TVs. The pole must be placed as high as possible where the antenna can point towards the northwest.
I used this website to get the number of degrees the WESH tower is from my location, then used a standard compass to point the antenna directly at the WESH tower.
Not only do I get WESH, but I get every other OTA channel that I know of, and a whole bunch that I wish I didn't.
Yeah you need a larger antenna. Those flat antennas have never worked for me. There's a lot of marketing hype on antennas, but it usually comes down to height and direction. I've got one of these on my roof and I went from spotty signals with 3-4 channels to around 40 channels. I live like 20 miles from the signals I'm picking up too. I ran coax to every room in the house with a tv, sending them all to the basement, where I connected them all together with a splitter and sent the one coax up the side of the house to the roof.
If your channels are all in the same direction just get a directional antenna as it will do better pulling in stations from further in that direction than an omni-directional antenna. Something like this RCA Yagi antenna.
I personally prefer -- uh trust -- something that resembles an old school antenna, but maybe that is just my bias and how well the antenna in my attic works that is an "old school" (pre-HDTV era) antenna.
I pulled the dish down and mounted one of these on it's bracket.. I get every channel around. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aEHwDbTXYGPB5
I had great success with this antenna. My stations (all 28 available) are spread all around me. This antenna picked them all up, with the farthest away being GPB (PBS) 43 miles.
Do you have issues with WXMI (FOX) and/or WOOD (NBC)? Those two are fairly close to the WWMT tower so it would be odd if you are experiencing problems with one but not the others. Check with http://tvfool.com and see if your antenna is pointed in the right direction, or something.
Joining two antennas could cause issues as the "static" from one might combine with the perfectly good signal from the other. They do make filters for this, but they are now hard to find in stock. For example Channel Master CM 0578 JOIN-TENNA. These will pass a certain channel from one antenna, ch 8 (which is ch 3.x, WWMT; Slightly confusing), and everthing else from another antenna.
I use a small yagi in my attic, but I'm not in a wooded area and have a good line of sight.
I would try a better antenna. I have used this in my attic for over 5 years. Make sure to use a quality coax RG6 quad shielded cable (something like this). Use AntennaWeb to help you aim your antenna.
With this I've been able to pick up CBS in College Station from Katy
If you want the best HD signal on ALL channels I would recommend http://smile.amazon.com/RCA-ANT751-Durable-Compact-Outdoor/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1417019675&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=rca+ant751
The Rabbit Ear and other ones like the one mentioned by /u/barefootbandit8 are ok for getting a few channels to come in clear. However, you will find that you are constantly trying to adjust the antenna depending on what station you are watching.
By installing the RCA ANT751 in your attic, you will get more than 90% of your channels to come in crystal clear and you will never need to adjust your "rabbit ears". Take the time and money to install a long term solution. You and your family will be happy, trust me.
PBS is the most difficult channel to get in the Savannah area. I sometimes will get it with my ghetto "rabbit ears ziptied to the roof" setup here in midtown. PBS is 32 miles away (vs. 16 or less for most others) which is out of the range of the Leaf.
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A good economy antenna is the RCA/Audiovox ANT751. If positioned properly (WNW), you should have no issues pulling in PBS.
Edit - /u/thebassdude is the local DIY antenna guru as well. Give him a shout, and/or check out some of the "build your own antenna" tutorials online. You don't need much more than some old wire coat hangers and a scrap piece of wood.
I live 11 miles outside of Nashville, and had problems picking up anything besides NBC and PBS with a set-top antenna. Upgraded to a setup like you are looking at; outdoor antenna that fit in my attic ( http://amzn.com/B0024R4B5C ) and added a preamp ( http://amzn.com/B003P92D9Y )
I pointed it towards the ABC/CBS/FOX towers and crossed my fingers. Fortunately, I was picking up all the major networks, PBS, and a bunch of independent stations. somewhere around 45 stations/substations total. Works great, couldn't be happier.
The problem you may is that the broadcast towers are on the far side of Nashville from you. You may have to go with a large outdoor pole-mounted antenna to pick up anything.
Not sure if my setup is good enough to work in Murfreesboro. You could order it from amazon, hook it up without mounting anything to test it, and if it doesn't work, return to amazon.
About 14 miles out all in the same direction but ABC, PBS and CW are high vhf channels that an indoor antenna may have issues with.
I use this and have a similar situation in relation to the closest tower. I went from a paper clip (nothing) to rabbit ears (had to keep adjusting them, PITA) to putting the linked antenna in the attic. I get about 55 channels now. My attic is 45 ft above ground.
If I had ONLY wanted uhf channels I'd have been fine with some sort of indoor antenna but for the occasional sports - NFL games, College football and basketball an antenna with vhf elements was necessary for CBS in my area (also about 14 miles away and LOS). Not a huge sports fan anymore but its nice to have the option.
I was going to try a winegard freevision which I could have mounted in a window but I went straight to a bigger antenna in the attic. You can get the freevision at Home Depot and if its not right for you return it.
My HDHR Prime works near perfectly with a good attic mounted antenna.(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1) My Plex DVR is pretty good but I'd say still a work in progress. Many people do not realize that the right antenna mounted high is EVERYTHING.
The specs on that Omni Antenna
VHF Gain 4.5dBUHF Gain 4.3dB
Problem you have is Fox
It is stronger from Toledo but your best group of stations is from Detroit.
Since its a weak antenna and they suggest an ampthe situation with that is... it is always best to go with the largest antenna that you can because more signal is better than boost.
All your stations for now are UHF except Fox Detroit which is VHF 7
So I am only considering your Good and Fair signals because the Poor signals are weak and if you try to get them you would need an amplifier and you might boost your stronger signals too much by the time you could get the really weak ones.. I do use amps and strong antennas in my setup .. over amping can be an issue.. it can shutdown your tuner and you get no signals.
So that Omni antenna at 4db of gain is kinda weak .. better or best antennas are from 8 to 16 db of gain every 3.5db of increase in gain is doubling .. so going from 4 to 8 is like 125% stronger not 100%
If I was you I would get at minimum a VHF High antenna and point it at toledo where the weaker signals are coming from and then your signals from Detroit that are strong should come in anyway... if that doesn't work well for you then point it at detroit and you should get good reception
right now you can get one of these for $29 used acceptable from Amazon.. probably in perfect condition but you can always return it .... Or pay $10 more for a new one .. its up to you .. New might be worth it buy I bought my antennas from amazon warehouse and they were in great condition.
If you are supplying signal to more than one tv you might want a distribution amp
I had directv previously. went up to the roof, took the dish off. put this guy (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0024R4B5C) on the mast and reused the wiring directv conveniently dropped throughout my house. works perfectly, get all the channels on all the tvs without an amplifier. I live in cedar park.
Here is it mounted to my fence, and this is the amazon link. It can be pole mounted, but what I would do is grab a 4x4x8' and put it in the ground 3 feet, then mount it to that. I am sure your landlord won't have a problem with that.
I've used this antenna with great results. Installed in attic with all channels clear. I'm on the edge of third ward.
Get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Antenna-Satellite-Broadcast-Epicenter-Reception/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1YO4M03HRGQRA&keywords=antenna+tv+digital+hd+outdoor&qid=1570114501&sprefix=antenna%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-4
And one of these:
If you live in an area that's too far from the antenna, you can get 2-14 from your cable provider for $10 per month (that's what I do. I got all the channels with my antenna expect for FOX)
Sign up for the DVR service for $5 per month, and you're all set.
Oh, I forgot the hardest part.
During the giants game, you have to cut yourself off from the rest of the world. No cell phones, no social media. A glimpse of the score ruins everything.
The Winegard Pre-Amp is what made the biggest difference for me.
I use the RCA Yagi for my antenna, and it has been solid.
This site can help you aim and know what you should get pretty easily as well.
Hey Antonio, figured you may find my post interesting. I used to live around the Riverside/Hurdman bus station, with a set of VHF/UHF cheap antenna, I used to get most channels since I was up high in an apartment. 5 years ago, I moved to the burbs of Barrhaven (townhome). My tv was in the basement, so I interconnected coax cables up to my second story and had that same antenna there and barely got anything.
I proceeded to invest in a better antenna. After some research, I settled on this one: http://www.amazon.ca/RCA-ANT751R-Outdoor-Optimized-Reception/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419899680&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=rca+ant
It's a little large, but for myself, I was able to install inside my attic so it's completely out of sight. Pointed it at the Gatineau hills (the source of the signals) and programmed my tv.
I get a VERY SOLID set of channels that work through all weather.
They include channels: 4, 6, 9, 11, 13, 14, 24, 30, 40, 42, 43, 60, 65.
I spent $45 or so for the RCA attic/outdoor antenna and it works great and I get all of the channels you mentioned with perfect quality. Here is the antenna.
In my experience unless you live close to the TV stations those "black rectangle" antennas are at best mediocre for UHF stations and terrible for VHF stations. Do you have an attic you could put an antenna in? If so you could try getting something more directional like this design. If you don't have the space for a larger antenna I'd recommend looking for something that at least has a traditional "rabbit ears" element that you can extend to pick up the VHF channels better.
Yup, I live in North Shore (in one of the valleys - bad place for TV reception), mounted an antenna in my attic (not even an exterior one) and I get all the channels in crystal-clear quality.
If you're up on a hill or in a flat area with few obstructions, something like an amplified Mohu Leaf will probably be enough; if you're somewhere like me where reception is a challenge, you'll need something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ - maybe with a separate amplifier.
Buy an outdoor antenna. We use this and get like 25 channels:
Try r/ota. Also check out tvfool.com I'm in Batavia also and I had to use an outdoor antenna to get more than a couple channels. If you look around town you'll see a lot of different outdoor antennas. We're just a little too far from most of the Chicago transmitters to get a reliable signal indoors. I got a very good outdoor setup from Olmstead's downtown. I installed it myself but they do installs also if you're not the DIY type or have a fear of heights. It was more than $150 for the smaller outdoor antenna they have plus a small mast. I used a chimney mount, they only sell tripod mounts.
You could go the bargain route. I think this antenna may have good results RCA Compact Outdoor Yagi HDTV Antenna with 70 Mile Range https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-EEhAbKQEE41W
So I tried the high end Mohu style indoor antenna, and had to buy a larger outdoor antenna. The indoor had inconsistencies in video quality or video loss. After putting an outdoor one up, we've had no issues.
This is the one I picked up: RCA Compact Outdoor Yagi HDTV Antenna https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_L0DwxbG8DN1A2
It's been up for about a year and a half, great so far
So the satellite dish is on the side of the house then? If the coax cable is coming out of the attic vent near the roof peak you might be able to mount the antenna at the roof peak. This is the antenna I got (they have it at Walmart): https://www.amazon.com/RCA-Compact-Outdoor-Antenna-Range/dp/B0024R4B5C. It works great, for me at least.
I have an Amazon basics antenna for the bedroom TV. Works great.
For my living room TV, I have this RCA antenna. It's small enough to mount in the attic, or even in a closet. Costs a little more than the "leaf" type antennas, but range is great.
I wanted to say thank you for your help and guidance on this. After reading about those antennas you listed, and I found another guide on reddit about what all of the stuff on TV Fool actually means, I decided to try out an RCA Yagi antenna from Amazon. I hooked it up this morning and it brought all of the channels in, including the VHF-High Fox that I couldn't get with the others. I just put it on the floor in my bedroom and the signal quality and % were anywhere from the 70s to 90s. Once I get it installed in the attic I'm sure it will be pretty rock solid. Anyway, thanks a ton. For anyone else that stumbles on this thread, here is the antenna I ended up purchasing and is working for me: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I use this antenna and get about 15 stations. We get all the networks in HD and some other channels those show old westerns and unsolved mysteries type shows all day. Our house is south facing and this antenna is mounted on roof so that probably helps with our reception of Greenville based stations.
You may find it's easier to pull in WMAR over UHF than it is to pull WHTM over VHF. I'm a little north of you in Manheim up on a hill, and WHTM still occasionally gives me some static. FYI this is the antenna I use.
Dover doesn't have local channels, it would have to reach to Philly or Baltimore. I get Philly channels without a hitch in Middletown. I have this mounted outside about 12 feet off the ground. I am sure if I put it on the roof I would get more, but since I already get 3, 6, 10, 12, 17, 29, and many more that I have no interest in I haven't bothered.
I'm in the Hawks Prairie area and I have a smallish roof mounted antenna (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0024R4B5C?vs=1). I only get Fox, TVW, and a few shitty Christian channels. I don't have an amplifier at the moment so I'm not sure if I could add more channels with one or not. But hey, for about $50 I get to watch a few football games.
I have an outdoor antenna that I mounted to an old DirecTV dish and I get a lot of channels
highlights: local channels in clear HD, plus stations from Toledo, Jackson, Lansing. 56-1, 56-2, 56-3 are PBS stations. in total I have ~20 stations that are worth watching, with a handful of others that I've removed from the channel list (QVC, Religious channels, etc)
these past couple weeks there have been different NFL games on CBS Toledo and CBS Detroit so it was nice to be able to jump back and forth (11-1 & 62-1)
I use this antenna and this preamp
I'll probably mess with it more come Spring, a better preamp closer to the antenna MIGHT allow me to get CBC which would be awesome
I'd recommend this antenna: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I tried a couple indoor antennas, both in my attic and on the side of my house, but they weren't able to pick up the towers on Slide mountain. I installed this antenna on the side of my house and pointed it Southwest. Never had any issues.
After the recent channel repack, the Low-Power TV landscape in Dallas has become pretty messy. Many TV guides are wrong, TV Fool is now very out of date, and even Rabbitears hasn't been updated to reflect all the changes yet.
KODF is off the air while they work on building a new transmitter on RF3 (VHF-Low). It doesn't look like there has been much in terms of status updates, but their construction permit doesn't expire until Sept 2021, so they might be off the air for a long while. In KATA's case, the station shut down and surrendered their license to the FCC, so they will never be coming back.
Since so many LPTV stations went off the air, some subchannels ended up moving to other stations. Both UAN and LATV (from KODF) ended up moving to KHPK, which only recently came back on the air. KHPK is currently broadcasting the following: 28.1 - SonLife, 28.2 - UAN, 28.3 - LATV. I just tuned to 28.3, and it's showing World Class Boxing, so it definitely has what you're looking for.
KHPK is broadcasting on RF10 (VHF-High), so you'll need to get an antenna that can pick up VHF-High. The RCA ant1450bfw looks to be a flat-type antenna, which doesn't do well with VHF. I'm able to pick up KHPK with https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C/ most of the time, but I'm way farther north than you, so you should be able to pick it up much better than I do. (While the antenna does include a mounting rod, I don't use it. I just placed the antenna on a shelf in my attic.)
I use this antenna in my attic, it gets all the major networks flawlessly.
compact outdoor antenna
This is by far the best guide for setting up an antenna that I've found, from the sidebar of r/cordcutters
how to use TV Fool
I got this:
It used to same mounting hardware as my Dish, and I hooked the coax right up to the TV. Took a little aiming, but much better than an indoor and about the same price.
Not sure if you have an attic, but I mounted this in mine and it works great.
Search Amazon for outdoor antennas. Check the ratings and reviews. I bought this [Click Here]RCA Compact Outdoor Yagi HDTV Antenna https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_WoH.ub0R6QHR3
Dang, your signals from the SSE are strong and close. /u/Mr_You recommended bunny ears to me a week or so ago and I tried it but it wasn't quite good enough (I got ABC and FOX but nothing else...most of my signals were 20-30 miles out). I wanted to watch the football games this weekend so I got the best I could find from Walmart: this.
Once I got it hooked up, pointed toward my closest stations and positioned high enough I got a CRYSTAL clear, HD picture. I'm still amazed.
EDIT: It's not the antenna I was planning on getting but it seems to be working fine and is what I will stick with. This RCA and This AntennaCraft were the two I was deciding between. But, honestly, with how close you are to so many stations, I think the bunny ears should do the trick. If you feel like spending $40-$50 to get a solid antenna, by all means do that, but I think you'll be good with something cost-effective (which doesn't mean cheap).
As others have mentioned, aim your antenna at Missouri City. All the antennas are there (except one, Ch 2 I think).
Second, what antenna do you have? I've always had the best results with this $40-45 RCA antenna (can also be purchased at Frys, but price match it, they charge like $80). The flat window antennas almost always performed badly, as did the fancy expensive ones. This one is cheap, works wonders, and even includes a pole/mount. There's 135+ channels you can pick up, we'd try to get at least 70-80, but often got ~120.
Third, how many times is your coax split? Are you running a line directly from the antenna to the TV? Or did it go to your homerun/splitter then to your TV? Anything more than a split or two will require either a amplfied splitter, or an amp added in addition to the splitter (usually the large 8/9 way splitters in the attic are already powered/amplified).
Fourth, where is it mounted? Indoors, attic, outside? Are there power lines right next to your house between you and the main antennas? If it's in the attic, do you have any sort of radiant barrier (silver lining) on the roof?
Lastly, your digital tuner could be bad or broken. Only way to really test this is if you have other TVs or a standalone tuner. Since OTA TV isn't huge, most companies put cheap tuners in their TVs (even if the TV is expensive). They can also just wear out or get damage from surges. I can't remember for sure who had better ones. I want to say Samsung and one other brand usually had decent ones. I think LGs were on the lower end, and the really cheap brands were hit or miss. Been a few years, I can't remember this minutia clearly.
So I live 30 miles away from the tv stations. I have a 70 mile antenna which is mounted prob 25ft up. I am having problems with cbs and NBC but not any of the other 61 channels I am receiving. Cbs and NBC will be at full strength and then drop to zero and lose signal for a few seconds. I can go hours with no problems but then will go hours with it going in and out. It's not getting pixilated, it completely drops and the tv says no signal.
I just installed this today hoping it would help
2-Port Bi-Directional Cable TV HDTV Amplifier Splitter Signal Booster with Passive Return Path https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BMKNZI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_AHUkVve74rlae
I also have this antenna
RCA Compact Outdoor Yagi HDTV Antenna with 70 Mile Range https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wrZWzbMDS6KAP
I started off with a similar indoor antenna. Reception was really inconsistent with two line of sight towers five and eight miles away. I eventually bought an outdoor antenna and put it in the attic. I'm now getting all the channels from both towers without any issues. I didn't add any additional amplification, and it's feeding three TVs.
please go to tvfool.com enter your address and post your tvfool report. It will give a better idea of what type of antenna you need
As for what will work with your satellite dish:
you are likely going to need a pre-amplifier also. I would recommend Channel master or Wineguard.
I used this one. If you're within 50 miles of Cedar Hill, it should work great.
I had been planning on mounting my antenna outside but I realized that it would be a little difficult to get it mounted where I wanted it. So I thought I’d try it in the attic before I started trying it outdoors.
I was pleasantly surprised it worked really well in the attic. I haven’t done a final install so it doesn’t take into account coax and splitter losses.
I’m about 25 miles from the antennas and I’m using this one...
I have this one in my attic and all of my stations are 26 miles from me and I have no problems. Plus, it's compact enough that I got it through the small door to the attic. And it comes with the mounting pole.
I use this one for many installs. Even snagged a couple Lafayette channels with it raining and installed in the attic.
RCA Compact Outdoor Yagi HDTV Antenna with 70 Mile Range https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_p0-IBbHCRBPDW
I have this one myself mounted outdoors.
Winegard Platinum Series HD7694P Long Range TV Antenna (Outdoor/Attic, 4K Ultra-HD Ready, ATSC 3.0 Ready, High-VHF/UHF) - 45 Mile Range HD Antenna https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DFTGR4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_V2-IBb27S5R03
Since most channels your parents want are in SF, I'd point that way. Just about any antenna will do. This one is popular and looks reasonably weatherproof. RCA ANT751E
Ideally an antenna that works in two directions would be best. Or two of the above antennas joined with this (or similar). Joiner
It's about 20' high and pretty clear LOS, except for a bunch of trees and reception is noticeably better on clear days after leaves have fallen. It's a very small and cheap antenna by the way but does the job, I had the same one when I lived in an apartment and mounted it on my porch and it was good there too. Perhaps the signal will be weaker in your case due to the building but you never know until you try...do the DIY antenna and see what happens.
This is my report and I'm using this antenna in my attic. KCPQ (Fox) is hit or miss sometimes and Kiro (CBS) doesn't come in for me. I get all the other channels I'm interested in my area. My antenna works pretty good for my setup minus the previous missed channels listed. Hope that points you in a direction that's useful.
I think this is the one I have. I got it second hand.
Ha! I just came here to recommend that antenna. I'm near Athens, and have two of these. One pointed toward Chattanooga and the other toward Knoxville. Even this far out, everything comes in clear for both cities except for some random dropouts for CH61 (Comet). Sucks when it happens in the middle of Stargate!
I second the advice the use AntennaWeb. It will show you the antenna "strength" you need for your exact location and which direction to point it.
If you can get the Eau Claire feed, you should be golden. Might need a good antennae though. I bought a nice RCA unit and mounted it on the peak of my roof. I get a lot of channels. Live in Superior and can't quite pull in the Eau Claire station but there is always the streaming option.
Almost any outdoor antenna should pull in all the major stations since you're fairly close. Some Baltimore stations shouldn't be too bad either but they're 30 miles away. Looks like the DC NBC station is missing from the report for some reason.
Attic antenna might work equally as well.
One thing that I have noticed is A.) Stillwater seems to be in a valley when it comes to TV singles, and B.) To get a strong OTA signal you need an outdoor antenna placed pretty high above everything else. If you can do directional that helps as well.
Don't forget that unless your tv has a built in digital tuner, you will need a digital converter as well. OTA signals are now all digital. You may also look at a signal amplifier but I have had mixed results with those.
When I first moved to Stillwater, I too thought man, I am roughly ~60 miles from OKC and Tulsa, I should be able to pick up both, but low and behold the best I was able to do is get OKC stations.
Something like this may work.
Side note: there is nothing different between and HD and a non-HD antennas, they just charge more for the "HD"
The RCA ANT751 is another good one. It worked well for me to pick up signals 53 miles away in both VHF and UHF.
You'll have a difficult time determining the exact gain, but some suggest
Ch 7 to 9: 7 to 9 dbd
Ch 14: 4dbd
Ch 30: 5dbd
Ch 50: 6dbd
Others suggest something like:
ch 7: 7.2 dbi
ch 9: 7.2 dbi
ch11: 7.5 dbi
ch13: 6.3 dbi
ch14: 5.8 dbi
ch32: 7.3 dbi
ch50: 8.2 dbi
Edit: Based on this post, I suspect the RCA will be slightly better at VHF and slightly worse for UHF in comparison with the mediasonic.
That looks pretty good compared to my report. I used to use a monoprice indoor/outdoor antenna and picked up channels 60 miles away (decent line of sight). This was used indoors and on the first floor. There were a few channels I didn't get, including a VHF one 90 miles away. I put an RCA ANT751 in my attic and pull that channel in now.
For my inlaws I wasn't able to pull in a very good signal with the monoprice because there weren't any broadcast towers that were line of sight. We bought a Clearstream 2V to put on the roof because it looks a lot nicer than the RCA antenna. It ended up working really, and you can use it indoors as well.
So my recommendation is the monoprice antenna, first, and then if you want something better, upgrade to the RCA or Clearstream depending on your decorating style!
I assume you are in a house and not an apartment. If that is not right this may not work for you. I live in Rockford IL for reference. Out local NBC affiliate is a VHF signal and was never reliable on indoor antennas. the other channels were just OK. So here is what i did. Maybe this will give you an idea one how to solve your situation.
This strap and a mast similar to this one to mount to my chimney.
I used the existing coax that the previous owners of the house had used with their satellite system. It is easily 40' long but also has the grounding wire attached along the insulation which I attached to the antenna at one end and it was already attached to the electrical grounding stake at the other.
I started using an ancient single-output TV amplifier (similar to the one linked) my dad had lying around since I only have one TV. But I switched to this. It gets terrible reviews but I bough mine for $1 at a going-out-of-business sale so it was worth the shot. So far so good.
Now I get the locals with no problems and also get some channels for Madison WI including PBS which we lost when we cut cable.
There are other things you can get like pre-amps and higher grade cabling but I say start cheap and build as needed.
I would get RCA ANT751 and point it at 344 (NNW) and you will be in good shape, you live in a good spot!
This one is great
>Here is the issue I'm having. When I look on my TV, the signal can jump >around a lot. I typically have good reception, but if things are positioned in >the living room differently, or people walk around the room, it cuts in and >out very easily. In fact just my dog moving from one side of the living room >to the other causes it to glitch.
This to me screams multipath reception, and as things walk around in the room, they block or change the reflection so the antenna does not get anything.
In a window would be better. Why can't you mount in the window? How far? If less than 25 ft. you can get an RG6 25ft cable, and F barrel connector and run it to the window. If its more than 25ft, you probably want the ampd version of this.
>Standard house construction (wood, no concrete), and I'm in Austin so it's relatively flat between me and the towers.
There can be alot of things like insulation with foil backing which is RF blocking or at least attenuating.
>Any tips? I'd be willing to buy a newer/better antenna if it's more >directional and can ignore reflections better.
Willing to mount outside?? How high ???
Personally with that RVF I would get :
Mount outside and be done. Reflections gone.
For many years I used an OTA antenna in my attic and then I replaced my roof and got a gradient barrier on the roof (Doh!) and it blocked the OTA signal. I was using https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C and it worked great for over 3 years. I installed it in the attic and used the FCC website (https://www.fcc.gov/media/engineering/dtvmaps) and a compass on my iPhone to point it correctly and get all the stations (all DIY).
Since my roof issue, I figured I would get an outdoor antenna installed. I have a 2 story home so I hired a company named Mr. Antenna (great company, Google them in your area) , it came with a professionally installed very good and hefty antenna. They took care of getting the best signal and installed it completely. Works great and cost me about $375 including labor.
We get most basic channels. Can't remember off the top of my head but tbs, nbc, fox news and a lot of Canadian channels and Jesus channels. There are probably a lot more that I'm missing but you would get most common channels plus some. I bought this when it was cheaper: converter and also this: antenna. They tend to pick up frequency from traffic that passes close to our house(we are right next to a busy road). If you live away from a main road it would work well but ours is okay as is. Install is easy if you already have a mount from another dish on your roof. I am in between Portland and Salem and our reception is really good except for the static when trucks go by. I am considering buying another antenna and aiming it at Salem. If needed I can try and figure out specific channels for you when I get home. I love hearing my in laws bitch about the price of cable and offered to set them up with this if they buy the hardware. They refuse every time. This purchase saved me a lot of money this year. Let me know if you have more questions.
You're going to want to use a directional Yagi antenna. I got this one and get ABC at 100%. If you need other types of mounting hardware, solidsignal.com has a good selection.
Also, remember not to use an amplifier first. Using an amplifier unnecessarily, can overmodulate the signal.
I picked THIS up and recently put it in my attic. I could already get over 30 channels upstairs with a cheap indoor antenna. This will be hooked up to a Tablo. I don't have it hooked up yet but should see a few more channels.
Would I need a preamp with either of those? Also, I have Amazon Prime, so I prefer to find something that is eligible. What do you think of this one?
Also, is ~3.5db loss common, or are there other kinds? I'm really at a loss concerning the splitter.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, the train track is immediately, almost exactly, to the southwest. The trains are certainly more of an issue than the planes. I was contemplating setting this one up on a roof or a post: http://www.amazon.com/RCA-ANT751-Durable-Compact-Outdoor/product-reviews/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary?ie=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=1&amp;sortBy=byRankDescending
Think those are better than the ANT751 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_cr_srp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
I've never tried the bowtie antennas, so not sure about those, but they do look like they're already made up of multiple antennas combined (but all pointed the same way). In theory, you could connect two or more.
I'm using this antenna (RCA). Bought two of them and have the combiner, just need to play more. So far, we're doing okay with just one, but I had some thoughts of seeing what I could pick up in a different direction.
I think the only way you'll know if you have a multipath problem is if you try it.
Antenna rotators are another possibility.
The easiest thing to do would be to provide you a URL to it's Amazon page:
This was the one we bought. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0024R4B5C?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
I picked it because it straps right on the dish. All I had to do was pull off the piece that points back at the dish. We didn’t replace the roof though.
I bought the RCA ANT751 compact outdoor antenna and mounted it to an old dish mount that was on my garage. The bracket that came with it worked perfect. It gets a great signal. I live about 45 miles from the broadcast antenna. $45.98 with Prime. No power needed. Just coax, obviously.
I picked up this Antenna and put it in my attic and it works really well. I'm also fairly close to the broadcast towers in my area. I'm about 15 miles away so I have pretty good signal regardless.
if you live in an area that has a local signal and you can put up your own antenna I would recommend one like http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
You could get dr phil just fine, but if you mean the oprah network.... can't help there. Disney channel has free episodes online, and depending on your provider you can get a lot more episodes.
I have a very old version of this antenna in my attic. Your TvFool looks better than mine. Point it due South. Good luck!
Got my hands on this, free from a guy at work
Antenea -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Do u think it will get much?
Here is the one I had the best success with, and old school "christmas tree" style:
I have it mounted in the attic, works fantastic. Needs precise aiming. Good luck!
I have this one in my attic. I can pick up channels from ~40 miles away. Nothing fancy, but does a good job.
RCA Compact Outdoor Yagi HDTV Antenna https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_uu58ub1VS9QG7
You can get a 70 mile antenna for half the price if you're cool with mounting outside or in an attic. It's the best selling on Amazon right now: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_T.zWzbNGXZR6E
Edit: the one I bought is only 35 dollars now. Check the specs, but I know this can do 1080i at least. 1byone Digital Amplified Outdoor / Attic HDTV Antenna, 70 Miles Range with Power Supply Box for VHF and UHF Band https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZI9LRSW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_LcAWzbCD8B0HS
I am using an RCA Yagi Antenna inside now and I am receiving 30 Channels. There are better rated Indoor antennas then this, so I must say I do not agree with you. Still looking for a highly rated indoor antenna.
If by window mount, you mean one of those flat 'leaf' style antennas, you're probably SOL.
If you're talking a smaller outdoor antenna you could mount on the side of the house, something like this RCA antenna might get you those 55-64 degree channels in the green and yellow.
If I were in your position, I would throw up something like the Channel Master CM 3020.
It's huge, and goes on the roof, but it would most likely get you all those channels in red on your TV Fool report. It's not that difficult to install (I put one up for my father), and it is crazy powerful.
I know that's not what you want to hear, but your location's not great for reception.
This is what I have and I get a ton of channels
For local channels in East Lansing, you don't need amplification or an extremely directional antenna. I'm near College and Dell and pick up Grand Rapids stations without amplification from a roof mounted directional antenna.
Look at the RCA ANT751R antenna. It comes with a mast and is affordable.
www.tvfool.com is a good resource for antenna TV.
Thanks for all the input! To be honest, I've been geeking out myself about this subject ever since I first picked up those Detroit stations and realized that those channels were far more interesting than the ones broadcasting here in my hometown of Toledo. Lol.
And I had no idea that tropospheric ducting even existed! Who says you can't learn new things on Reddit?
Before your reply, I was thinking about picking up the compact RCA yagi outdoor antenna (https://www.amazon.com/Antenna-Satellite-Broadcast-Epicenter-Reception/dp/B0024R4B5C). Is that one too small for the task? Of your antenna suggestions, I'm leaning more toward the Winegard model. Having low VHF channels isn't necessary, but I thought if I was going to sink a decent amount of money into an outdoor TV antenna, I should at least have all the bases covered.
Currently $37 bucks! totally worth it. I was lucky I had a dish to take down so I could reuse cabling and pole. I'm just under 30 miles line of site to the towers (point towards green valley ranch, then adjust with an app on your phone). I have 2 Samsung LED TVs, one is 5 years old the other 10. The 10-year-old tuner picks up more channels.
Thanks. I can get the HBU22 from RadioShack which is returnable in-store, so if it doesn't work out I won't be out anything.
How does the HBU22/33 compare to the RCA ANT751, GE 24792, Solid Signal Xtreme Signal HDB91x, or the Winegard HD-1080? I was trying to compare them and was wondering how they'd affect reception given the different designs they use.
Yes, you will get more channels outside. I bought this one with the preamp. The mast looks like a dish mast. I mounted my on the side of my garage. With my old setup inside I got two channels. I now get six channels. With a bit more height I could most likely get the other channel that I am missing.
I used one of the coax cables from my sat dish that is near my new antenna to get the signal to my TV.
here's the one i'm going to upgrade to when i put an antenna in my attic:
Having done this process a few times now I HIGHLY recommend you try bunny ears on top of your TV first. You'll likely get almost every channel you want unless there are some major obstructions. (The Mohu Leaf is another one to try).
If you decide to do a directional antenna I recommend a small yagi antenna. I have a very similar one to this one and it is pretty fantastic:
You're probably not gonna need an amplifier at all because you're relatively close to the brodcast tower. The one at 318 looks like it gives you everything you need!!
After trying an indoor amplified antenna (where most stations are about 35 miles away) and getting just a few channels, I opted for an RCA Yagi antenna. Now I get over 120 channels. Available at Amazon and Walmart.
Do you need something that rotates like the one you currently have?
If by RCA Yagi you mean this antenna (http://www.amazon.com/RCA-Compact-Outdoor-Yagi-Antenna/dp/B0024R4B5C) it is most definitely NOT crap. In fact, I just used one to replace an Antennas Direct DB4e. It's got decent VHF-Hi gain, which the DB4e did not, and for my purposes the UHF gain is acceptable.
BTW, it's a log-periodic antenna, not a Yagi, so it has better performance than you'd think based on its size.
I have something like this. I have a home and it is attached my roof.
You have to run cables up the roof, but used existing cable lines.
I use it to power two HD televisions without any boosters. I get all the basic channels (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS) 99 percent of the time.
For comparison, I originally ordered this style of antenna: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CWGTKNS/ref=twister_B017IHN0EK?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1
But ended up using this style, as it was more consistent in signal, especially with VHF frequencies: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024R4B5C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
It's the hardest I'm same situation as you antenna needs to b 25 feet high at least aim it at the empire State building www.tvfool.com 289° magnetic if ur on the south shore and u need a preamp and than a regular amp right b4 what ever ur using to watch it
Winegard LNA-200 Boost XT HDTV Preamplifier, TV Antenna Amplifier Signal Booster, HD Digital VHF UHF Amplifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DQN3R9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_VH0ZCb6746MKF
Channel Master CM-3410 1-Port Ultra Mini Distribution Amplifier for Cable and Antenna Signals https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FY0B90/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xI0ZCbQVX7QN2
TV Antenna - RCA Outdoor Yagi Satellite HD Antenna w/ 150 Mile Range (70+ Miles from Broadcast Epicenter) Attic or Roof Mount TV Antenna, Long Range Digital OTA Antenna for Clear Reception, 4K 1080P https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jJ0ZCbCPS03XW
This is what it takes to get that channel
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ roof mount this and point it south west.
Smoke a joint🤦♀️ TX Grab a beer and call it a day.
A little late but I recommend this
Thank you! I figured the 150 mile mark was garbage.
On Denny's website, do you know anything about the EZ-HD antenna? Also, how does it compare to this... https://www.amazon.com/RCA-Compact-Outdoor-Antenna-Range/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1497977638&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=ez-hd+antenna
http://dennysantennaservice.com/ez_hd_tv_Antenna.html Cheaper at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/RCA-Compact-Outdoor-Antenna-ANT751E/dp/B0024R4B5C
I'd probably start with a cheap amplified antenna like the [Sobetter](https://www.amazon.com/Antenna-Sobetter- Amplified-Outdoor- Digital/dp/B078TH4JT4) ($37 & 150 mile range) and go from there. Your pretty borderline for a non-amplified unit and my pick would be more than the Sobetter -- RCA Yagi ($42 & 70 mile range).
Here is the one I have in my attic: https://www.amazon.com/RCA-Compact-Outdoor-Antenna-Range/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1499785614&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=rca+antenna
Works great. It took me a couple days to figure out the best spot to mount it up there to pick up the most transmissions. I'm in a newer house with radiant barrier applied to the underside of the roof decking so the attic kills most signals because of that barrier. Even with that issue, I can still get about 20 stations from that RCA antenna I linked.
Thanks for your help. So far I have ordered this antenna, but no separate mounting kit. I was planning on putting it on the side of the roof like this, but since it is a small antenna I assume I could get away with not using a mount like that. Should I change this plan?
I personally recommend this one, the RCA ANT751R:
Note that this is quite a large antenna designed for the roof or attic. I have this set up in my attic and once it's pointed precisely at the tower I never lose signal on any of the channels. You can look at http://www.tvfool.com/ to see what you can pick up and what direction to point the antenna.
I'd suggest trying a simple cheap antenna before you lay out $80. HDTV reception is very strange. Sometimes a simple antenna will get better results than a highly tuned one depending on conditions. I've been through three expensive antennas. None of them outperformed this one, and sometimes my homemade rig outperforms it. The sun has a lot to do with it, especially in the spring and summer. The setting sun can 'bend' the signal such that no antenna can detect enough to make a solid picture.
My advice is to experiment with cheap versions before buying expensive and being disappointed.
I'm in the same area too, I have this antenna. I tried adding an amplifier I had from another antenna but that still didn't work. I have the antenna in the attic, pointed south, southwest.
I don't know most of the technical stuff, but I have this antenna
In the Ocoee / Winter Garden area and I get all the major channels (sometimes NASA too on a good day). The trick is to get that baby as high you can. I also have it spliced to 3 TVs.
Yeah, you can't cheap out on a shitty antennae like that. Step up your game a little bit with one like this and you will be much happier.
I'm 30 miles from the towers, with my antenna in the attic, and I get everything fine.
Its an RCA off Amazon...tons of great reviews.
RCA Compact Outdoor Yagi HDTV Antenna https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Wr3AxbF9H1KNX
I put one in my attic that works fairly well. Some day I might put outside however not sure how much more it will help. TV Antenna - RCA Outdoor Yagi Satellite HD Antenna w/ 150 Mile Range (70+ Miles from Broadcast Epicenter) Attic or Roof Mount TV Antenna, Long Range Digital OTA Antenna for Clear Reception, 4K 1080P https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_hukzDb04F8SW8
Any recommendations on the attic antenna? Pricing is all over the board (anywhere from $40 - $140). Any main features I need to look for?
Here are a couple of the best reviewed ones on Amazon:
Would something like this work? I only ask because I can pick it up at my nearby radioshack? Thank you for your help, by the way.
I don't know an installer, but I thought I'd share my experience. I installed this in my attic and am very pleased. I get all the basic ABC/Fox/NBC type channels in HD, plus dozens of small time channels. I didn't have to climb on the roof and I prefer it to not be visible.
Also, check this site for a list of channels in range: http://www.antennaweb.org/
RCA ANT751 Durable Compact Outdoor Antenna
This is the one I use. I live about 45 miles away from the broadcast location. Mounted it on top of my house and get all of the channels.
Your situation looks pretty good actually. My signals are similar and I used an RCA ANT751 on my roof and I get all the yellow stations just fine. The only problem I have is the antenna farms at my locale are not all in one direction like yours so aiming is an issue for me. Rerun your TV Fool report at a higher elevation and see how sensitive your report is to that parameter. If you go high enough you might get more green stations.
Another alternative is the Antennacraft HBU line
The lowest ranked antenna is the HBU11 at the bottom which is equivalent to my ANT751 but if you wanted to you could go with the HBU22 or even the HBU33 to guarantee good signals and they aren't that much more expensive. It all depends on how many TVs (or other devices) you plan on connecting and the length of the cable runs and how many $$$. The more metal you have in the air the better signals you'll have and less problems. With a bigger antenna you'll also most likely pickup the stations coming from from the West off the back of the antenna.
That said, I highly recommend that you join the TV Fool forum and post for help. There are some real experts their that can advise you and design a system that will work from the beginning. Its more complicated than just picking an antenna there are other issues such as number of devices, cable lengths and splitters, amps and pre-amps, splitters. Its all pretty complicated but the forum is a great resource most people don't use and pay for it in a badly designed system. At minimum I'd search that site on and learn what the numbers in the TV Fool report mean.