Reddit reviews Wanderground: Stories of the Hill Women

Part 1

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I'm not sure if I can get context for all of them, but I can probably figure out what books they are from, and if you're super invested, you can get them on amazon or try to borrow them from the library.

“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” - Robin Morgan

Source: Going Too Far: The Personal Chronicle of a Feminist

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"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire." - Robin Morgan

It looks like this one might be from that same book. I could only find one site that sourced it.

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“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” -– Valerie Solanas

This is from her SCUM Manifesto, which as I understand it, was meant to be satire like Swift's proposal to eat babies. Here's the context:

>Although completely physical, the male is unfit even for stud service. Even assuming mechanical proficiency, which few men have, he is, first of all, incapable of zestfully, lustfully, tearing off a piece, but instead is eaten up with guilt, shame, fear and insecurity, feelings rooted in male nature, which the most enlightened training can only minimize; second, the physical feeling he attains is next to nothing; and third, he is not empathizing with his partner, but is obsessed with how he’s doing, turning in an A performance, doing a good plumbing job. To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo. It’s often said that men use women. Use them for what? Surely not pleasure.

>Eaten up with guilt, shame, fears and insecurities and obtaining, if he’s lucky, a barely perceptible physical feeling, the male is, nonetheless, obsessed with screwing; he’ll swim through a river of snot, wade nostril-deep through a mile of vomit, if he thinks there’ll be a friendly pussy awaiting him. He’ll screw a woman he despises, any snaggle-toothed hag, and furthermore, pay for the opportunity. Why? Relieving physical tension isn’t the answer, as masturbation suffices for that. It’s not ego satisfaction; that doesn’t explain screwing corpses and babies.

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“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” — Susan Brownmiller

I found an article that explains and defends this quote as well as provides the source and further context. Even if the site itself is shitty (I don't know if it is or not), it still has context and source and more quotes.

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“The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.” — Sharon Stone

I'm having trouble finding anything for this one.

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“In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.” — Catherine MacKinnon

Here's a snopes article on it, but it doesn't have any sources.

And it appears according to this site, that she never actually said that.

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“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart

Yeah, I'm having no more luck than you did. It's from that paper, I guess, but The Wanderground is probably the book it was referencing.

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Okay, it looks like this quote is from a Time Magazine article. Here's some context:

>Catherine Comins, assistant dean of student life at Vassar, also sees some value in this loose use of "rape." She says angry victims of various forms of sexual intimidation cry rape to regain their sense of power. "To use the word carefully would be to be careful for the sake of the violator, and the survivors don't care a hoot about him." Comins argues that men who are unjustly accused can sometimes gain from the experience. "They have a lot of pain, but it is not a pain that I would necessarily have spared them. I think it ideally initiates a process of self-exploration. 'How do I see women?' 'If I didn't violate her, could I have?' 'Do I have the potential to do to her what they say I did?' Those are good questions."

As you can see, she didn't directly say that quote at all; it was paraphrased.

3DimensionalGirl wrote:

Part 1

I'm not sure if I can get context for all of them, but I can probably figure out what books they are from, and if you're super invested, you can get them on amazon or try to borrow them from the library.

“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” - Robin Morgan

Source: Going Too Far: The Personal Chronicle of a Feminist

"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire." - Robin Morgan

It looks like this one might be from that same book. I could only find one site that sourced it.

“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” -– Valerie Solanas

This is from her SCUM Manifesto, which as I understand it, was meant to be satire like Swift's proposal to eat babies. Here's the context:

> Although completely physical, the male is unfit even for stud service. Even assuming mechanical proficiency, which few men have, he is, first of all, incapable of zestfully, lustfully, tearing off a piece, but instead is eaten up with guilt, shame, fear and insecurity, feelings rooted in male nature, which the most enlightened training can only minimize; second, the physical feeling he attains is next to nothing; and third, he is not empathizing with his partner, but is obsessed with how he’s doing, turning in an A performance, doing a good plumbing job. To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo. It’s often said that men use women. Use them for what? Surely not pleasure.

Eaten up with guilt, shame, fears and insecurities and obtaining, if he’s lucky, a barely perceptible physical feeling, the male is, nonetheless, obsessed with screwing; he’ll swim through a river of snot, wade nostril-deep through a mile of vomit, if he thinks there’ll be a friendly pussy awaiting him. He’ll screw a woman he despises, any snaggle-toothed hag, and furthermore, pay for the opportunity. Why? Relieving physical tension isn’t the answer, as masturbation suffices for that. It’s not ego satisfaction; that doesn’t explain screwing corpses and babies.

“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” — Susan Brownmiller

I found an article that explains and defends this quote as well as provides the source and further context. Even if the site itself is shitty (I don't know if it is or not), it still has context and source and more quotes.

“The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.” — Sharon Stone

I'm having trouble finding anything for this one.

“In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.” — Catherine MacKinnon

Here's a snopes article on it, but it doesn't have any sources.

And it appears according to this site, that she never actually said that.

“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart

Yeah, I'm having no more luck than you did. It's from that paper, I guess, but The Wanderground is probably the book it was referencing.

Okay, it looks like this quote is from a Time Magazine article. Here's some context:

> Catherine Comins, assistant dean of student life at Vassar, also sees some value in this loose use of "rape." She says angry victims of various forms of sexual intimidation cry rape to regain their sense of power. "To use the word carefully would be to be careful for the sake of the violator, and the survivors don't care a hoot about him." Comins argues that men who are unjustly accused can sometimes gain from the experience. "They have a lot of pain, but it is not a pain that I would necessarily have spared them. I think it ideally initiates a process of self-exploration. 'How do I see women?' 'If I didn't violate her, could I have?' 'Do I have the potential to do to her what they say I did?' Those are good questions."

As you can see, she didn't directly say that quote at all; it was paraphrased.