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A book I highly recommend reading (it's light on technical matters, but it is a really interesting read... at least for me since I wasn't quite alive to experience most of it) is Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet, which looks at the ideation, implementation, and growth of the ARPANET, various regional networks, and eventually the Internet.
On mobile, but there's a book called "Where Wizards Stay Up Late". Will see if I can get you a link, but it should be easily found on Amazon.
Edit: Here ya go!
I'm often surprised when the people I work with (at a large software company) have never heard of key moments in our industry such as this one.
This has got me thinking: what other key events are there that everyone who works in the industry should know about?
A few to start the conversation -- personally, I think these are essential reading for anyone who claims to be interested in computers:
I LOVE following the history of networking, awesome find!
If you end up wanting more, where wizards stay up late and dealers of lightning are great reads about the people behind the early internet.
awesome videos you linked there.
EDIT: if you are interested in this type of stuff check out the book Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins Of The Internet
Here's the issue. AT&T had a government-granted monopoly over the phone lines at the time, and AT&T did not believe in any of this "computers talking to each other over phone lines" stuff. AT&T did not want to let anybody use their phone lines or provide any support for such a project, and as a government-granted monopoly, there was no other option.
The government basically told AT&T that they had to let their lines be used for this. That's pretty much the only thing the government was necessary for, and it was only to overcome a government-created problem. The amount of funding given towards networking research was pretty paltry, and was less than the government spent on voodoo mind control and LSD remote viewing experiments.
However, similar technology was also being worked on in Europe at the same time, and had they finished it first, the internet would have just grown out of that.
A great book about all this is Where Wizards Stay Up Late.
if you like this subject matter, "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" is a must read... read it while getting my BS in Comp Sci
It was the first incarnation of what would later become the Internet, if that's not immediately apparent. The network started with four hosts (I think they were called nodes) one of which was at UCLA.
If you're interested in the subject, this is an excellent book to get you started.
A bit unrelated, but as a computer geek from my earliest days, "ARPA" will always mean Advanced Research Projects Agency. You know, the folks who brought us what we now call the internet (among many many other useful things).
(Also, if you're interested in that sort of thing, Where Wizards Stay Up Late is an excellent history of how we came to have the internet)
The internet isn't a specific 'thing'; there is no internet box that you can point to and say, "that's the internet!" The internet is an abstract term applied to a series of computer networks of an indeterminate number greater than one. This is important because prior to the networking of two distinct networks together, you only had two distinct, non-communicating networks.
There is a varying level of redundancy in the connections between the various networks, all with one specific thing in common these days: the TCP/IP internet protocol suite. It was the best way of allowing for common communication between distinct computer networks.
If you visualize a long line -- a wire -- and then envision computer networks connecting to it via servers and more wire, you're envision what the internet is at a basic, broad level. There is a great video on YouTube that explains the internet this way. I'm trying to locate it now. However, if you enjoy reading about such things, there are two fantastic books that I recommend on the subject:
The former explores the history of the internet, taken as a summation of its parts and their creation. The latter explores the origins (and potential futures) of the World Wide Web, a specific application of hosting and sharing documents (and other media) across the internet conveniently. It's written by Tim Berners-Lee, the number one scientist behind its creation. I include this link because it is a common misconception that "the internet" is "the world wide web."
If you're interested:
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458080933&sr=8-1&keywords=where+wizards+stay+up+late
I'm not aware of any books that just like this, but here are some recommendations:
You may like, "When wizards stay up late" as well:
https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506457291&sr=8-1&keywords=when+wizards+stay+up+late
Description from Amazon:
Twenty five years ago, it didn't exist. Today, twenty million people worldwide are surfing the Net. Where Wizards Stay Up Late is the exciting story of the pioneers responsible for creating the most talked about, most influential, and most far-reaching communications breakthrough since the invention of the telephone.
In the 1960's, when computers where regarded as mere giant calculators, J.C.R. Licklider at MIT saw them as the ultimate communications devices. With Defense Department funds, he and a band of visionary computer whizzes began work on a nationwide, interlocking network of computers. Taking readers behind the scenes, Where Wizards Stay Up Late captures the hard work, genius, and happy accidents of their daring, stunningly successful venture.
Tip of the hat to the pioneers... Lawrence Roberts, Vin Cerf, Bob Taylor, Ivan Sutherland, Douglas Engelbart and J.C.R. Licklider, among many others. Well worth studying up on these dudes. Some excellent reads (available at your public library, natch): "Dealers of Lightning" an excellent book about Xerox PARC; "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" fascinating book about MIT and DARPA; J.C.R. Licklider and the Revolution That Made Computing Personal a turgid yet compelling book about J.C.R. Licklider and his contemporaries.
The book Where the Wizards Stay Up Late is a pretty good overview. It has more details from the ARPANet days and wraps up right around the point of the combination of ARPANet, NSFNet, and CSNet to create the modern Internet.
For a while there I'd use the Wikipedia Book Creator to aggregate a bunch of articles on a certain topic and then download it to my eInk e-Reader to peruse in bed until I fell asleep.
One such topic was early computing up through the Microcomputing era and the 1977 Trinity.
At that point of history I was reading Empires of Light about the AC/DC war, Where Wizards Stay Up Late about the birth of ARPANET, Dealers of Lightning, about PARC, Commodore: A Company on the Edge (about the rise of Commodore through the PET, slaying TI, and faltering after the C64), and Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet, which was enlightening, even though it was written for someone who couldn't tell a modem from a hub.
Read this excellent book on the founding of the Internet:
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1415714806&sr=1-1&keywords=where+wizards+stay+up+late
They are jokes in my experience.. I don't think there is an actual chart that if you can do x you fall into y category. Like from what I've always known, level 100 is n00b and level 900 is internet god so at 400 I'm like sysadmin. But I've never heard of a level 900 or level 100..
I know a guy who could be a level 900 but he's know as a Wizard, which is a reference to a book called Where Wizards Stay Up Late. I put myself at 400 because it's about average. I use it daily for work and for some stuff at home but I'm not an absolute god, I know what I need for work and some more and I know Stack Overflow for everything else
if this interests you then I recommend the book "Where wizards stay up late" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1481796320&sr=1-1&keywords=where+wizards+stay+up+late
Yea, "Where the Wizards stay up late" is the one I read.
https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674/ref=pd_sim_14_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0684832674&pd_rd_r=V53EY4JJ5Y422XJFDDAF&pd_rd_w=qml3l&pd_rd_wg=VRyhi&psc=1&refRID=V53EY4JJ5Y422XJFDDAF
the internet was built on the backs of a few very dedicated nerds with a very limited social life. and of course, quite a few engineers who left because they didn't want to dedicate their lives.
There is a great book about that time and the people...
Where Wizards stay up late
https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
Read a book for once in your miserable, ignorant life you pathetic fuckwit.
Generally speaking there are very few books with the effortless, readable style that "Hackers" has, and those that do tend to be more specific in focus.
On Free Software this is OK: http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/
On Apple, avoid the Steve Jobs love-in and get the older exploration of what went wrong in the first place: http://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Loop-Michael-Malone/dp/0385486847
Microsoft was dull as dishwater after the early years (already covered in "hackers").
For the roots of the Internet you want this:
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333743593&sr=1-1
> For your reading pleasure: http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674 Knowledge is power.
Thanks. But I work in that field and are well versed in what the internet is, what it is not, and it's history. ARPANET is not the internet. It never was, and never will be. As I said, it's a completely different network for a completely different purpose. The TECH used for the development of ARPANET, was repurposed to create the internet. But saying that it therefor is the internet, is like saying a car is a horse cart. It's simply not true.
> The OP did, when contending that the rough-and-tumble days of Usenet justified, even necessitated, a similar treatment of the ideology of "safe spaces" today.
No he didn't. You trying to cram that interpretation into it, does not make it one. Nor was that what he said. Why are you lying?
> Our legal system disagrees with you, vehemently. Here is achildren's primer on the subject, which seems about your speed:
No it does not. There's plenty of rulings from multiple courts in multiple levels regarding this. Free speech has nothing to do with what a company can and cannot do with their platforms. Free speech is about free speech, nothing else. That's not to say they're not allowed to control their platform, it simply have nothing to do with free speech. That a company has no obligation to allow you to use their platform for your free speech, is COMPLETELY different, from the company having free speech rights. Is the education on the difference between free speech and the first amendment and what the difference between those things is, REALLY this bad in the US that even people in Europe knows it better? You're just being silly now... Seriously...
Working on Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet, then it'll be on to Slow Regard of Silent Things.
I can highly recommend the book Where wizards stay up late to anyone who wants a more complete picture of the history of the Internet. It can be a bit dry at times but the story in itself is interesting enough that I could hardly put down the book.
Educate yourself.
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
Get a copy of "Where Wizards Stay Up Late", great history of where the Internet came from and the key people involved.
non programming, but for history of computers, my two favourite books are where wizards stay up late and dealers of lightning. as a programmer, you will definitely appreciate and be inspired by both of them.
for programming, sandi metz's practical object-oriented design in ruby is a good read, and possibly worth it even if you're not a ruby programmer.
Read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220208644&sr=8-1
Of course it wasn't invented by a single person, but it's pretty easy to narrow it down to a small list of those who were most responsible.
Read a book, this one is good...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
There were early experiments in packet switched networking throughout the 70s and a growth of packet switched networks in industry and academia throughout the 80s BUT they weren't federated into "The Internet" until 1991 and even then there was pretty much zero public awareness of it til 1994/1995. So it IS absolutely crazy to suggest a scientist talking about it, especially the way this clip talks about it, in 1978/79 which is when Cosmos was made.
This is good : http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
http://www.amazon.com/Cathedral-Bazaar-Musings-Accidental-Revolutionary-ebook/dp/B0026OR3LM/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407387705&sr=1-1&keywords=the+cathedral+and+the+bazaar
Both offer a very entertaining view on relevant technology. I like the Cathedral and the Bazaar because its discussion is still quite relevant today.
>ARPANET, which while it has some relation to the internet, is a completely different thing entirely...
For your reading pleasure:
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
Knowledge is power.
>No one gave an argument from tradition.
The OP did, when contending that the rough-and-tumble days of Usenet justified, even necessitated, a similar treatment of the ideology of "safe spaces" today.
>free speech does not have anything to do with the right to manage any platform
Our legal system disagrees with you, vehemently. Here is achildren's primer on the subject, which seems about your speed:
http://1forall.us/teach-the-first-amendment/the-first-amendment/#a4
If you manage to choke that down, see Marsh v Alabama (1946), Hudgens v NLRB (1976) and Pruneyard v Robins (1980). It's why you're not allowed to wear pornographic t-shirts at Disneyland.
Twitter's EULA states, in part: "We reserve the right at all times (but will not have an obligation) to remove or refuse to distribute any Content on the Services and to terminate users or reclaim usernames.”
According to the law, they're tight. Your precious fee-fees have no claim.