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We found 13 Reddit comments about Wild Brews: Beer Beyond the Influence of Brewer's Yeast. Here are the top ones, ranked by their Reddit score.
Someone might come along and tackle your list of Qs but sounds like you could use a book or two.
https://www.amazon.com/American-Sour-Beers-Michael-Tonsmeire/dp/1938469119
https://www.amazon.com/Wild-Brews-Beyond-Influence-Brewers/dp/0937381861
I've done two sours with some wild yeast I caught.
Hope that helps! Cheers and good luck!
Reading through Wild Brews right now, and realizing how little "style guidelines" matter to the Belgians. The beer they make is the beer they make, and that is that. This is why many of the "styles" are related more so to the region, rather than the ingredients. I highly recommend the book to anyone looking into spontaneously fermented beer, or just if you love to learn about beer. Reading it makes you thirsty though.
Wild Brews is a great book.
Noonan's Lager Book http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0937381829
Wild Brews http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0937381861
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Jeff Sparrow's Wild Brews: Beer Beyond the Influence of Brewer's Yeast is a great place to start.
If you want to make a good sour, read Wild Brews. It's a great book, just like everything else BP publishes. Brewing a good lambic is a lot more complex than throwing a sour culture and some fruit into a pils/wheat wort.
I don't consider Orval sour. Brett can produce lactic acid, but it is not nearly as proficient as some bacteria, which is where the sourness in the RR beers is coming from. Orval is definitely "wild" fermented, meaning it uses something other than brewers yeast for fermentation, but isn't particularly sour. Check out this book if you want to know way more than could every be useful.
Orval uses one strain of brettanomyces bruxellensis in their beer when the bottle it. RR uses a combination of probably 3-10 different organisms in their beer. Cantillon in Belgium claims over 200 organisms are found in their beer, which is fermented from organisms existing in the air and structures of their brewery.
Horse blanket/barnyard tends to be the descriptor. If you're unhappy with that, I see tons of other descriptors in that thread. I'm not sure what you're looking for.
horse blanket, musty, funky, crawlspace, and urine soaked hay (in a good way). Compost pile, funky, moldy, poop, manure. musty basement, barn, sweaty leather, musty hay, decomposing organics, Tack room, barn, hay, manure, plastic, damp soil., Pony quilt, maybe "forest floor" and "dirt" which people do say, 1) Cow pasture
2) Dairy farm
3) Cow manure
"Brett produces phenols.
Some give the clove and smokey aromas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-ethylguaiacol
4-ethyl phenol gives the barnyard and horsey aroma.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-ethylphenol
Ethyl Lactate gives the furity aroma.
A compound called tetrahydropyridines gives a urine aroma (often termed mouse urine).
You can look those up. Some of you will not be convinced though.
If you are more interested read this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Brews-Culture-Craftsmanship-Tradition/dp/0937381861"
Here's a more scientific take on it by Aroxa, but I don't think that's what you're looking for either.
http://www.aroxa.com/cider/cider-flavour-standard/4-ethyl-phenol/
Hope you find better descriptors. Please post if you do.
Infections all move at different rates. Acetobacter will show up pretty quick, but something like brett takes months to get really established (there's a graph in wild ales).
That said, this guy is totally fine.
As /u/brewtality mentioned, The Mad Fermentationist is excellent.
I would also recommend Wild Brews by Jeff Sparrow. It is, to me, the Bible of homebrewing sour beers. Well worth checking out.
Books are an excellent gift idea. I would also recommend Wild Brews
http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Brews-Beyond-Influence-Brewers/dp/0937381861
^Is this the book you're talking about?