Reddit reviews Wisdom of Psychopaths

Avoidance of responsibility is a primary characteristic of psychopathy. He ticks off all the other checkmarks, too. Only libel laws are protecting his ass from being called a psychopath openly. Educate yourselves about psychopaths -- I recommend these books I have read to understand my own lifelong contact with psychopaths, starting with my mother:
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us
Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work
Confessions of a Sociopath: A Life Spent Hiding in Plain Sight
The Psychopath Test: A Journey Through the Madness Industry
The Inner World of the Psychopath: A definitive primer on the psychopathic personality

He is commonly called a narcissist, but here's a handy rule of thumb. Not all narcissists are psychopaths, but all psychopaths are narcissistic. It's easy to understand why -- they don't see humans as humans, only objects to be manipulated for fun and profit. They, themselves, are the only conscious being, so nothing else matters. Their brains aren't wired to understand we have minds and memories, which is why they lie constantly to achieve their immediate needs. Strangely, the inability to experience emotions (and that includes fear, which is why Trump seems to never give a fuck about consequences) comes with no sense of past or future. There is only the "now."

1% of the population are psychopaths. You know more than one. Some say it's an evolutionary adaptation that exploits humans with emotions and morals, and that they are "intraspecies predators." There are professions that rely on psychopathic behavior, and you can draw your own opinions on them:
The Wisdom of Psychopaths: What Saints, Spies, and Serial Killers Can Teach Us About Success

It is also commonly said that psychopaths are experts are reading people. This is false (because, to them, there is nothing to read). They are simply experts, from lifelong experience and practice, at putting people into situations with predictable reactions. For example, Trump likes to insult people because he knows it distracts them and takes them off their game as they try to defend themselves. Psychopaths like to do their manipulating in the background and behind peoples' backs (and in Trump's case, behind NDAs and hush money), thus Trump's biggest problem -- he's the world's most watched person and nothing goes unnoticed, so his previous tactics aren't working. He is thrashing more and more as he gets more desperate to deceive. He is not losing his mind or getting senile. He's a psychopath who can't understand why his old tricks are no longer working.

His apparent "humanness" is a practiced façade, as is true for all psychopaths. They learn, starting in childhood, how to fit in. Some learn how better than others. Trump is good enough at it to fool a large number of voters.
BTW, there's nothing saying a psychopath can't also be dumb as a brick or illiterate.

>Non-triggered sociopaths also tend to excel in a lot of professions due to the same traits that seem cold.

yes.
bomb disposal experts, pilots, the more successful surgeons and lawyers, etc..

you can read this book The Wisdom Of Psychopaths.
https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Psychopaths-Saints-Killers-Success/dp/0374533989
for an interesting take on this.

the author basically said psychopaths are not all serial killers. it's just a trait some people tend to have and be good at their chosen jobs because they veer towards those jobs somehow.

edited: formatting.

> Not that I disagree with them on a lot, but they're a bunch of sad fucks.

Note that these self professed sociopaths agree with them on many ideas. They just don't like the people. Reminds me of some rpers who say they don't mind RP ideas, but don't like TRPers (majority people who subscribe to and get advice from TRP subreddit).

This serves as evidence for my virtue theory: that virtue ethics / valuation is how people judge rpers poorly. Many people don't naturally understand how to moderate behaviour, and to the rest of us this is a sign of lacking virtue. I.e. it's something learned through practice rather than theory. And it seems these people (bpers and self-professed sociopaths) are just criticizing "autistic trpers" for the same reasons. (Autism ==> not understanding how to moderate behaviour)

> Finally, the dark triad worship. I don't cringe often, but this one does it for me. I mean, I get it; I'm awesome, they want to be awesome. But, it's hilarious that they find something categorized as a disorder so appealing. It's like they don't understand that a bunch of people with the same characteristics are incarcerated. It just reeks of that neckbeardism 'women like bad boys'.

IllimitableMan's posts are too long for me to read, but one thing I caught on quickly that even he doesn't want to become DT... and he's the primary person writing about DT on TRP subreddit. I don't think anyone actually does want to become sociopathic. They talk about why sociopaths may have advantages over normal folk. This is no different from Kevin Dutton's own study on psychopaths:

https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Psychopaths-Saints-Killers-Success/dp/0374533989

Does Dutton want to be a psychopath himself, or was this merely a topic of interest?

I'm guessing this self-professed sociopath doesn't read his sources. He probably doesn't have to if he can convince people he does just by sounding confident enough.

That's this book?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Wisdom-Psychopaths-Killers-Success/dp/0374533989/

I might pick it up!

> I'm a med student

Obviously not a good one if you read what you posted and thought that means there's a statistically significant effect from those treatments.

Seriously, I gave you a great source and I can give you more instead of relying on wiki. There are SOME effects on SOME individuals on the lower end of the spectrum but for people pouring bleach down someone's throat, they HAVE NO GOAL. They can't be convinced to work within the letter of the law because they aren't working towards anything. I don't get why that's so difficult for you to grasp.

Along with that paper, you can read this book: http://www.amazon.com/The-Wisdom-Psychopaths-Killers-Success/dp/0374533989 which is a great case study of sorts.

There are plenty of other papers I can link you to but it seems like you're just ignoring what I'm linking anyway so no point in wasting my time. I don't care if you're a med student, that doesn't mean you can't be wrong about this. I have a personal interest in the topic and have studied it for my own pleasure so your lame claim to authority is meaningless.

The paper/book I've given to you is written by doctors not cartoonists.

Wisdom of Psychopaths

Supposedly from an actual interview with a Navy Seal.

I think that the sub sociopaths seems depressing to the observer. But there is actually a book that took your theory with psychopaths('Be a little of a psychopath to stay healthy and meet your goals') https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0374533989/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522137521&sr=8-1-fkmr2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=kevin+dutton+psycho
I would not say that I'm reponsible for others, but I definetly want to change something. One task I aim at is to find or build a Community that share ressources and makes political changes. More like Prometheus, go figure.

I mean, he is a CEO and successful businessman (debatable).

You don't get to that level without having sociopathic tendencies.

some great books on this are The Wisdom of Psychopaths and The Sociopath Next Door

Really?

Dutton K The Wisdom of Psychopaths: What Saints, Spies, and Serial Killers Can Teach Us About Success (2012)

Are you going to tell me you will purchase this book and read it? Or do you want to use the summary used in the Wiki?

It gets a lot of hate, but I'm a fan of Atlas Shrugged.

Neil Gaiman writes some good stuff too, but that's fiction.

I enjoyed The Wisdom of Psychopaths by Dr. Kevin Dutton. That was a non-fiction one I read in the past year or two.

The Wisdom of Psychopaths: What Saints, Spies, and Serial Killers Can Teach Us About Success https://www.amazon.com/dp/0374533989/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_WYogzb3H20HN7


That's the book. They asked a question along the lines of "what's the difference in this group of pictures?" And the difference wasn't the subject. The difference was the persons hand in all of the shots had six fingers, and for some reason psychopaths tend to notice those things more than others.

I can school you on book recommendations the same as at the dinner table and volleyball court;). Here is another: https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Psychopaths-Saints-Killers-Success/dp/0374533989/ref=nodl_

> I personally don't know that much about real INFJs (I mostly know about my type, INFPs, INTJs and INTPs)

Yeah, it's the same with me. I know about all 16 types in a really vague way, but I am only well informed on INFJs and their common mistypes (especially INFPs).

INFJs love pleasing other people. We see enhancing other people as our function in life. We absolutely hate hurting people. Things you might not think twice about will eat us alive. We love to beat ourselves up over the damage (real or imagined) we do to other people. We pay way more attention to other people than we do ourselves. Basically the opposite of an INFP.

Which is why I said in the beginning he's not an INFJ. We would never ever do that. Even an unhealthy INFJ would not behave that way. Unhealthy INFJs are scheming and manipulative. An unhealthy INFJ would still at least feign interest in order to manipulate you...they would not simply bail on you.

> So I already made up my mind, that I personally don't know enough about him to confirm or contradict his statement, thus he gets the benefit of the doubt. For now. Doesn't mean that I am not listening to you.

I am just providing information. I will never know your situation as well as you do. I only have your posts here to go on. What you do with it is entirely up to you.

> Yeah, I am still not sure, what exactly he is lying about though.

It's possible it might not be anything. Some people are like that. They like the power that lying gives them. There may be no reason other than that.

In this situation (Straight guy, straight girl?) I would assume he's lying to get into your pants maybe.

> That's something I noticed about INTJs as well.

INTJs are actually really similar to INFJs. We have the same congintive functions; the two middle ones are just swapped. INTJs will still care about people too, sometimes almost to the same degree as INFJs. It's just not a priority for them like it is with us.

> I think you might be confusing them with psychopaths. Sociopaths are quite impulsive and thus rather easy to detect.

There is no clear distinction between the two. In Psychology, both terms are used interchangeably. From what I can tell, people generally use the term "sociopath" to refer to Psychopaths that are still functional. Meaning Psychopaths that can control their impulses. But the actual clinical definitions are not distinct from each other.

I don't know if you're a reader, but there is a great book on them - "The Wisdom of Psychopaths: What Saints, Spies, and Serial Killers Can Teach Us About Success" - https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Psychopaths-Saints-Killers-Success/dp/0374533989

It goes into a lot of detail about how they think, and the ways they use to manipulate people.

> I have a huge interest in people in general. So, I don't even stay away from getting to know assholes better, because I wanna find out how they "work".

As long as you're aware of it. That's all that really matters.

> https://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Psychopaths-Saints-Killers-Success/dp/0374533989
> Does Dutton want to be a psychopath himself, or was this merely a topic of interest?
> I'm guessing this self-professed sociopath doesn't read his sources. He probably doesn't have to if he can convince people he does just by sounding confident enough.

To set this argument straight: "He doesn't know why RP or what RP says about DT" or what is it?

So, this was always a topic of interest for me since I've always found it quite natural to be energetic and extroverted. I've recommended the book "The Wisdom of Psychopaths" by Kevin Dutton a few times in my comment history, and I will again here because it's truly a fascinating book.

In answer to your question, to appear more energetic to others, focus on your posture and your eyes. Someone standing up straight and confidently looking at someone's face/eyes when they're addressing them looks far more awake then someone slouched over and averting their gaze. Interestingly enough, you'll also feel more awake if you focus on your posture! Don't get me wrong, when I'm sitting down I have awful posture (6'5... most desks/tables are too low for me) but when I'm standing up I'm always up straight or potentially casually leaning on/sitting against something.

Another thing that's interesting is potentially down to empathy. People who "catch yawns" from others often seem more tired because they're always yawning when in actual fact a potential link has been shown (people have tried proving it and disproving it and neigher side of the debate has manage to 100% prove their point) between empathy levels and yawning.

That's just a couple things that I can think of off the top of my head, but the second paragraph is probably the more important of the two as it's easier to work on posture and where you're focusing your eyes than it is to work on not catching yawns.