Best camping bear protection products according to redditors
We found 133 Reddit comments discussing the best camping bear protection products. We ranked the 35 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 133 Reddit comments discussing the best camping bear protection products. We ranked the 35 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
Bears are more afraid of you than you are of them.... Unless you startle them. You might want to pick up a Bear Bell. It just makes a noise as you walk so bears are alerted to your presence and run away before they can be startled.
The only place in America you're likely to be eaten by a bear is in San Francisco or Greenwich Village.
This is easy, the answer is bear-mace. 1-day shipping from amazon. http://smile.amazon.com/SABRE-FRONTIERSMAN-Attack-Deterrent-Holster/dp/B002E6VAHK
Or you could carry something useful.
Bear mace. I have to drive thru a large homeless area on my way home from school and this crossed my mind before after seeing a homeless man put his face on the window of a car. Fuck that noise.
https://www.amazon.com/Udap-Spray-Safety-Orange-Holster/dp/B07DFGYKXM
I got that one cause it comes with a holster you can zip tie to your bike.
> He shot it in the air , the bear stopped to run , looked at him and charged again!
And that is why I always encourage people to carry UDAP bear spray over just about any other deterrent product (Here's an example of the effects on an aggressive pitbull and here's one being used on a bear). It's unpleasant to fire, especially if you are downwind, but you have a much, much higher rate of scaring off a bear through physical injury, rather then just hoping hoping and praying that noise intimidation will be enough get the job done.
> Self-defense pepper sprays
Not legal in the UK
Pretty much only legal self-defense you can have on you is a spray-paint, but even then it can get you in a lot of trouble.
Sabre Frontiersman bear spray, 9.2 oz can.
A flashlight is not a weapon. It's great for situational awareness, identifying the person who's walking up your driveway, and conveying an attitude of preparedness to a potential attacker, but it's pretty ineffective for disabling someone.
With that out of the way, how much can you spend on a flashlight after you buy the bear spray for $27.20?
So I’m guessing you’re in Oxford by your name. y’all can’t use pepper spray right? I found this on amazon that’s legal in the UK Self Defence Spray Id buy more than one and test it on something to see how it shoots out. It’s supposed to release a dye and I’ll bet it doesn’t sting like pepper spray but shoot it right in that goons eye and Im sure it will slow him down.
I carry a little pocket knife with me everywhere (like a lot of people do in Texas) but from what I understand you can’t carry one with you unless you have a reason to have one on you.. You can keep one in your home though right?
If I were in your position I might try to talk to other neighbors about him. See what they think/warn them. I would feel better if other people were on the same page as me about this dude. What about the apartment owners/employees? Can you talk to them?
This dude is way too bold about watching you. What a creep. You should always feel safe in your home can’t imagine how frustrating this must be.
Get a can of bear spray. Crazy guy won't be doing much more than laying on the ground whimpering after you hit him with that.
Nah I could see you just needing to set up like five to ten of those bear spray ones, then have those tiny little black hose ones that spray a super fine mist about to water your garden. You could then have it set to go off by a trigger, motion censor (I think this one could prove problematic for local wildlife), or maybe even have an app for it.
When I read the bit about the pepper spray rigged to the sprinklers, it really got me thinking on how you would do it effectively. Where you would position them and if you could set them off in relay.
That's why I think the multiple big can of bear spray like this or this but they only seem to have a 5 second blast. So having a bank of about 20 or 30, with 3 on each sprinkler system, meaning you can send more 5 second bursts through it.
As I'm in Australia and pepper spray and most definitely bear spray is illegal (without a licence I think) I'd have to find some of that fart spray instead. I could get some Raspeberry Pi's, servo motors and with my 3D printer could cobble something together.
Realistically if he had access to a 3D printer (even without you could managed with duct-tape), and could learn how to do some basic programming, you could knock something up in a month or two of weekends and some after work time.
EDIT: Just found this awesomely perfect for the purpose sprinkler.
And this one for those neighborhood kids who you don't like. Or this, or maybe if you have some Bronies this.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mini-Defence-Spray-Criminal-Identifier/dp/B00DSP708O
These are legal in most countries, as they only cause temporary blindness, confusion and can identify criminals due to skin staining.
When I backpacked across the country i carried a can with me. Very easy to obtain. Got a decent sized canister which promised a 30 foot cone. Cost $35 on Amazon.
Edit: Here it is. They started including belt clips, I guess.
No mace/pepper spray but you can carry this criminal identifier spray! It just makes them orange.
http://www.amazon.com/Mace-Brand-Bear-Pepper-Spray/dp/B0002YSWIQ
I've never had to use it, but the one I have is this one. It's kinda big, but significantly smaller than a 1 qt water bottle. The little elastic holster thing is crap, but it'll easily fit in a cargo pants pocket, bottle pocket, or decent-sized jacket pocket. We picked up two of these for a 1 week family vacation in Yellowstone/Tetons because it was cheaper than renting them and the guy at the Sierra Trading Post in Cody, WY said he wouldn't go into the woods out there without one of those or a shotgun.
EDIT: Derp, haha!
Eh, I mean I also ride in a very rural area, I don't carry anything, and have never felt unsafe. Criminals tend not to target rural areas because the amount of potential victims they'll encounter is low, meaning they don't have a huge field of people to pick from, meaning they'll probably have to select a less than ideal target.
They also don't tend to target bikers (at least not in any city I've ever lived in) because we move too fast. Even a slow cyclist, moving at only a bit faster than a fit man can run, is capable of a burst of speed that would leave any potential mugger behind. Even if they caught you at a light (which is rare for rural areas), you still have the option of running faster than they can chase. For avoiding muggers, I'd just give the simple advice of:
Never get off your bike for a pedestrian at night.
For animals, I also generally wouldn't worry. The dog treat idea people listed will work well for dogs, which imo is probably the largest concern. Like I said, I live in a pretty rural area with a lot of wildlife, and I've never had any issues with wild animals. I've been chased for about 1/4 mile by a dog, but they tend to give up quickly once they get out of their yard. I've also ridden in close proximity to large black bears, foxes, deer, and (on one instance) a couple wolves, none of which expressed any interest in following/chasing me.
Generally speaking when you're riding a bike, you're much larger and going much faster than any animal's typical prey, so they'll leave you alone. The only situation I would be concerned about would be if you live in an area with a LOT of wolves, or an area with more aggressive bear varieties (like the grizzly)
If that is a concern, I'd recommend a combination of a strong pepper spray (they actually make pepper spray specifically for deterring grizzlies), and some sort of air horn.
Coghlan's Bear Bell with Magnetic Silencer, Red https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000J4U5AW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EUi3Cb2Z9ASSB
Works well.
Hikers have told me thanks for having the bell.
I dunno man. They could have had a gun or something. He didn't have to fight. I would have pulled a pussy. I carry [bear mace] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002BMOJXE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485210145&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=bear+mace&dpPl=1&dpID=41btjoyt41L&ref=plSrch) on me for this reason. I don't box. And I avoid fights.
Some bear mace should do the trick. Sprays 30 feet and is much lighter than any useful rifle or handgun.
Buy one of these just in case
I talked to a wild life officer in NC about this a few months back. He actually said that in most cases hikers/campers are better off with the large "Bear Sized" pepper sprays. The reason is, most people when in an "attack" situation cannot get off well placed shots on an attacking animal ( And that in the last 2 years, he has had ~5 reports of people shooting at bears in 'self defense' and none of those people have actually hit the bears). Where the spray can "Blanket" the area. He also said that people are more likely to use the spray as a deterrent before even getting into an attack situation. Which also helps keep the animals scared of humans.
Example: http://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Bear-Attack-Deterrent-Holster/dp/B002E6VAHK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331572871&sr=8-1
He did however say that most officers carry 45 and that 10mm is gaining popularity for capacity reasons. The reason being that they are both devastating rounds at close range, which is where most likely you'll end up needing it. He also noted that they are not just for protecting against animals, but also against people which is why there isn't much .357.
That was the other interesting thing. He stated that many hikers/campers tend to carry CRAZY firepower. .44mag, .357, etc. Thinking that they need "Grizzly Bear Stopping" type rounds. He joked and said that they should be more scared of the people in the woods, and not the animals and a good personal defense round is what they should carry. (He noted he personally carries .45 Winchester PDX).
Personally, If I was in your shoes. I'd carry the spray, and then what ever personal defense round you feel most comfortable. The only exception to this rule may be Grizzly bears -- But IIRC That is really only an issue in like Montana.
Good alternative (*might be illegal in some states): Pepper spray can blow back to cause problems; this is the best alternative (except for the one below). The disadvantage is that is has only two shots. I knew a guy whose 10 year old got hold of it from his hiking backpack and accidentally shot it against the wall. the whole family had to get out, fast.
https://www.amazon.com/kimber-PepperBlaster-II-Gray/dp/B004MG63X6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=17UTPPY8Y257D&keywords=kimber+pepper+blaster&qid=1556830319&s=gateway&sprefix=kimber%2Caps%2C-1&sr=8-4
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Best alternative (probably illegal (for carry) in most states unless you are hiking. This stuff will stop a bear - really! I decided to test mine with a fraction-of-a-second shot into a (clean) empty toilet bowl. On firing it *completely* displaced all the water in the bowl which dissipated throughout the bathroom, including onto "moi". Within 2 seconds I was gasping for air (even though the stuff has been highly diluted with clean toilet bowl water). I had to run for an open window or I would have collapsed. Had to leave my place for 5 hours, and then come back and clean up the bathroom with rubber gloves. I had really uncomfortable burns on my hands and face for the next 10 hours from the initial hit of diluted spray. Makes a great bedside weapon if you are shy about owning a gun. Also, a handly concealed alternative if you are walking through a dangerous neighborhood at night. We're talking a 30 foot jet of pure heat that will deter a bear.
https://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Spray-Holster-Access-Strength/dp/B002E6VAHK/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3TQIN7XEN36Y&keywords=bear+spray+for+hiking&qid=1556830493&s=gateway&sprefix=bear+spray%2Caps%2C258&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1
this should solve your problem
keep your spacing and make sure hes not able to rush you down, use adas weapons to your advantage, they are both good for keeping people away (adas sigs are also really...really good)
Bear spray usually has a lower OC content than allowed in regular pepper spray - 1-2% for bear spray vs. 10% for humans.
Human Spray - 10% OC http://smile.amazon.com/SABRE-RED-Pepper-Gel-Professional/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1425328962&sr=8-2&keywords=pepper+spray+OC
Bear Spray - 2% OC http://smile.amazon.com/Counter-Assault-Deterrent-Holster-10-2-Ounce/dp/B001DQ76JI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1425329101&sr=8-5&keywords=Bear+Spray
The only advantage of bear spray is that is is designed to shoot farther. If you want to use pepper spray get some designed for humans.
Booyah
If you're worried about feeling unsafe, consider taking bear spray even if you're not in a bear area. Works on more than just bears. ;) Remember it's useless way down inside your pack. Keep it in one of your side pockets.
For a broken leg or other medical emergency on a solo, consider getting a PLB. Expensive, but it could save your life.
Check if your phone has a GPS function, and if you can use it when you're out of service area, to help if you get lost. You may need a special app.
(yes, I have bear spray + PLB + GPS, and I solo frequently)
The shit in your pants from noticing said bear is your body producing wearable camouflage.
Seriously tho just buy a bear horn they work great for breaking up indoor cat fights too.
From amazon. You have to be more accurate with regular mace.
https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Frontiersman-Holster-Options-Multi-Pack/dp/B0016WVQJU/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=bear+spray&qid=1573414227&sr=8-5
https://www.amazon.com/Guard-Alaska-Pepper-Spray-Holster/dp/B005ITXAIM
I'll play. Let's assume bugging in. No wind in your house, right? You don't live within 1000' of a school, right?
Answer: Pepper spray. Or mace, or whatever, preferably this.
And now the flip side: you just sprayed a hell of a lot of a toxic substance inside your house. But you had time to put on eye, nose and mouth protection, right? And you can close yourself off from that room for hours so that the toxins can settle a bit? And then you can go clean that room without getting it in you eyes, etc.?
Huge pain in the ass, but way better than letting a home invader get the best of you.
Also, while they are rolling around on the ground, holding their face and screaming, beat the crap out of them with your baseball bat.
Have you considered something like this instead?
9mm with 17 rounds staggered JHP/FMJ. I'd rather have it than not. I'd also choose that over nothing.
Although my main concern was mountain lions.
For bears: http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Assault-Deterrent-Holster-10-2-Ounce/dp/B001DQ76JI/
Go with bear spray, more range than pepper spray
I would recommend pepper spray for situations like this. Though apparently in the UK, you are pretty limited on legal options but supposedly this is legal there. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DSP708O/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00DSP708O&linkCode=as2&tag=peppersprayuk-21
It sadly wont hurt like pepper spray, but it will suddenly making the spitting they did not worth it and it will mark them for days so they can be identified.
Go for the stuff marketed as "bear spray"; the thirty-foot range puts you a little further from the attacker, and you don't need more than the 7-8 ounce size which fits conveniently in a jersey pocket. Most sprays only have a ten-foot range.
A rape siren is usually better at dissuading wildlife than the pepper spray; the sound drives them just as nuts as it drives you.
Bear mace.
It will work, you had your chance, we tried to meet you half way and you wouldn't give an inch. Now were taking a page from your playbook and going for everything, not giving an inch.
Pepper spray up to 2.5 oz is legal. All the bear spray canisters I've seen are larger than that, which I think triggers Amazon to block shipping here. I tried buying about 6 different brands and finally found one they don't block:
UDAP Bear Spray Safety Orange with Griz Guard Holster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XPYYBYC/
I believe they may allow it because the company registered it with the state, at least that's what I've read allows legal ship.
My understanding is it's a felony if you used it against a human predator, but I think I'll be good if carrying while walking the dog in coyote country to mitigate an animal attack.
Pepper spray is essentially the same thing (and also useful against dogs).
Bear mace often comes in larger containers, which can be an issue if you live in CA or another state with a size limit.
Bear sprays work from 30 feet away. If the bear was an arms length away from you, the spray wouldn't help much, would it?
http://www.amazon.com/SABRE-FRONTIERSMAN-Attack-Deterrent-Holster/dp/B002E6VAHK
You be fucking real.
Just buy some bear pepper spray and stop being such a girly man.
These bear bells are pretty good. Loud enough to be heard buy way less annoying than a cow bell. Also, they have a silencer but it does not always work.
https://www.amazon.com/FRONTIERSMAN-BB-01-BK-Bear-Bell-Black/dp/B00VQ8ZXRK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473194017&sr=8-1&keywords=bear+bell
what about bear pepper spray?
https://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Spray-Holster-Access-Strength/dp/B002E6VAHK
this shit does the trick too
picturing scenario of ordering this off amazon, and having it stolen off porch
Get a better pistol and put a good, really bright light/laser on it.
I suggest a Glock 17. Then get some rounds called "Glaser Safety Slugs". Get the silver version. These rounds are designed to penetrate enough to hurt someone pretty well, but penetration will not be super reliable enough to kill (although they certainly could still be lethal). You can always stack the loading with a few rounds of safety slugs first, then regular hollowpoints after if you feel a more powerful shot is necessary.
If you get a tactical light to put on it, that would be good. Get something blindingly bright. TLR-2HL G is a good model.
https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-69265-Mounted-Flashlight-Lumens/dp/B00TZHISEY
My only other firearm suggestion besides that would be an HD-style high capacity 12 gauge loaded with 3"magnum birdshot. It's powerful enough to fuck someone up pretty well, but will not penetrate most apartment quality construction enough to be lethal. A Mossberg 500 would be a go-to suggestion, or you could do any of the good variety of semi-autos. Be aware that semi-autos may need the gas system adjusted to use different kinds of loads (e.g. birdshot vs. buckshot). With a pump, just make sure you pull and push the pump really good and hard to make sure you don't short-shrift the mechanism. Putting a good light/laser on a shotgun would be a good idea if you go that direction.
Any suggestion that an AR (or other rifle) fragmenting load is "safe enough to use in an apartment" is bullshit. I have done tons of research on that topic over many years. The much touted Hornady VMax will easily penetrate numerous layers of standard drywall with plenty of energy and structure left to inflict a very serious wound. Numerous videos on youtube of this.
When I lived in a dwelling where I needed to worry about overpenetration I kept a 12 gauge loaded with 3" magnum birdshot for the first 2 rounds, then 2&3/4 00 buckshot for the remainder of the tube magazine. We always keep handguns by the bedside as well, and those are loaded with standard hollowpoint ammo.
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As far as non-firearm, defensive items:
Immediately install small, cheap intrusion alarms on all doors/windows/points of entry. You can get these at practically any hardware store, and obviously online, for very little money.
Having a bulletproof barrier you can easily hide behind is a very good idea. A few layers of books will stop most rounds, even powerful rifle rounds, so if you bookcases you can keep strategically placed, that is a good idea. Keep in mind that most home intruders who have guns bring handguns, not longguns.
Another thing to consider is a tear gas canister you can toss out of a door and/or a large can of OC/bear spray to shoot down a hall if you hear an intruder in your dwelling but want to avoid a face-to-face confrontation. You can deploy either of those down a hall very easily, shut the door and put a towel along the bottom to prevent backflow. That will 99% of the time keep an intruder from going any further, due either to pain or physical incapacitation (breathing difficulty). ALWAYS sit and wait for an intruder to come to you if you have a good defensive position and nothing to lose (children in another room). Just call the cops and tell them where you are in the dwelling and tell them you will be waiting there.
https://www.amazon.com/UDAP-Super-Magnum-Spray-Ounces/dp/B001QGTZIU
Obviously keep a usable phone nearby at all times.
If you don't mind doing a little front door alteration:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D2K35FW
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018HFW6WE
Bedside holster:
https://www.crossbreedholsters.com/shop/modular-systems/bedside-backup.html
There are numerous magnetic mounts that can be put anywhere you care to put a screw in which would hold a handgun very easily.
The radio is a perfect idea. Definitely get bear spray ( https://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Bear-Spray-Maximum-Strength/dp/B002BMOJXE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=bear+spray&qid=1556825913&s=gateway&sr=8-3 ).
Also, a firearm isn't a bad idea, for when the bear spray runs out.
I got one of these and have been really happy with it. Has a "silencer" that works alright but honestly the bell hasnt bothered me at all, hikers appreciate it. The problem with the loud hub alert is you have to stop pedaling, sometimes you dont want to have to do that.
https://www.amazon.com/FRONTIERSMAN-BB-01-BK-Bear-Bell-Black/dp/B00VQ8ZXRK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1500567866&sr=8-4&keywords=bear+bell
https://www.amazon.com/Udap-12HP-UDAP-Bear-Spray/dp/B001QGYH7Y
Do not test it. It works.
Just keep some "Bear Attack Deterrent" handy.
I've used this bear canister on occasion. You just leave it on the ground and the bears play football with it for a while. Ursack is another really nice bag good for hanging that packs small. The AllMitey version resists both small critters and bears. Their standard bear bag protects against bears, but not rodents.
Fuck, get this! This shit stops BEARS!
https://smile.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Bear-Spray-Maximum-Strength/dp/B002BMOJXE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1522483087&sr=8-2&keywords=bear+mace
Here's a link to help him out for future content.
Bear Spray would be an effective, if somewhat extreme, deterrent. I bring it with me into the backcountry. It won't cause lasting damage and, once those dogs get a facefull of that, they won't bother you ever again.
edit: I just learned they also make [dog attack pepper spray] (https://www.sabrered.com/protector-dog-sprays) I would use that instead.
Also in the UK and looked into this after my wife had a scary encounter and something like this (Safehaus Mini Self Defence Spray Criminal Identifier https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DSP708O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.aWWzb9PYYSZD) seems like a decent legal self-defence option here.
I carry Frontiersman because it's got a good 30' throw and I really like the holster.
I carry it on my belt on my right (dominant) hand side with the safety tab still in place. The lining of the holster is smooth and doesn't bind up the can.
I can draw the can free with one finger while I'm pulling the safety tab back with my thumb and then spray it in one fairly smooth motion.
The spoon end of Titanium one can open a bear canister without breaking. That was my primary concern when I bought it (and the reason 2/3 of my plastic ones broke).
I carry bear spray, just in case. Honestly the biggest worry I have is wild animals.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002E6VAHK/
No, you are changing your argument now. These statements specifically are what people were arguing against:
>It's not actually Mace (that is a name brand of tear gas) but pepper spray.
>Except that Kleenex is facial tissue, while Mace is teargas. Bear spray is not tear gas, therefore....
>Tear gas is completely different chemicals than pepper spray.
> Human triple threat spray contains Mace, pepper spray, and UV dye and the laws on their usage regarding humans tend to be the same.
>However, it's illegal to spray bears with tear gas.
You are acting like tear gas and pepper sprays are different things, when in reality, tear gas is a term that describes any gases that act as a lachrymatory agent. CN gas is one type of tear gas that was originally used in Mace, and every time you used the term "tear gas" I think you were instead referring to CN gas, but so is pepper spray. Your confusion over this subject made a lot of the things you said incorrect, like the lines quoted above.
>Never once said that Mace is only one thing, just that if it's called Mace it's not for bears.
And I didn't mean that you meant mace is only one chemical, you made it clear you understand one of their popular formula uses three chemicals. Although you incorrectly called one of the chemicals "mace", when the chemical you were really thinking of was, again, CN gas. Instead, my point was you were acting like "tear gas/mace" only refers to kinds that contain CN gas, but that isn't the case. A lot of mace is just pepper spray these days. Which also makes you saying "if it's called Mace it's not for bears" wrong. Go ahead and take your pick:
https://www.inoprotect.com/product/mace-bearspray-260-grams
https://www.amazon.com/Mace-Brand-Bear-Pepper-Spray/dp/B0002YSWIQ
Point being is you are trying to clear up confusion over a topic you yourself seemed to be confused over. So read this sentence again if you still feel adamant about your stance:
>Subsequently, In the United States, Mace became synonymous with tear-gas sprays in the same way that Kleenex has become strongly associated with facial tissues (a phenomenon known as a genericized trademark).
It isn't just talking about "defense sprays" or whatever you are saying, it is talking about how mace is synonymous with all tear gas sprays. And pepper spray is a tear gas spray. The fact that you are differentiating those things in your head is part of what is leading to this confusion.
Use this:
http://www.amazon.com/UDAP-18CP-Super-Magnum-Spray/dp/B001QGTZIU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395261220&sr=8-1&keywords=magnum+bear+spray
It is oftentimes many times more effective than a firearm anyway, and a much lower legal threshold for self-defense use in any jurisdiction. You can probably carry it on a military base, but you will need to check the base rules.
Consider hiring a private investigator to find out who the stalker is.
People who bought this item also bought Frontiersman Bear Attack Deterrent.
And in case your more into offense there is always these!!!
Don't carry bear spray specifically but I do carry OC spray (essentially the same stuff but for people, AKA less strength).
I use Sabre Red for work. Their bear spray line is 2% major capsaicinoids (what makes it hot) while the stuff I carry is 1.33%. Don't get drawn into the claims of scoville units as a rating of how effective it will be.
I've been sprayed with stuff that was less than 1% (somewhere around .75% if I recall) and it felt like my face was melting for a good long while so I could only imagine what 2% feels like.
https://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Bear-Spray-Hip-Holster/dp/B002E6VAHK?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
Also comes with a holster for your belt but with your hip belt for your pack it might not be feasible to carry it there. You could probably find a way to rig it to a shoulder strap on your pack fairly easily though.
Also, most bear sprays are a "fogger" type spray. They will shoot with a good bit of force to propel it some distance but after that initial burst out of the canister be ready for it to get blown around by wind quite easily, and if the wind is blowing towards you, you could be in for some pain.
That video along with the comments here and the reviews of this:
http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Assault-Deterrent-Holster-10-2-Ounce/dp/B001DQ76JI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409322022&sr=8-1&keywords=counter+assault+bear+deterrent
I'll probably get some spray. Way cheaper then trying to buy another handgun just for hiking.
Bear spray is pepper spray, essentially. I went with a recommendation based on a video from a Glacier NP ranger; Udap is the brand.
Amazon only:
https://www.amazon.com/Ursack-AllMitey/dp/B06WLQP2ML
you might want one of the ones with 3 times the range, like Counter Assault
I assume this is like the UK where victims can only "mark" their victims with inert marking dye for later identification by the police.
Of course if the suspect just goes back to his migrant jungle camp until the spray wears off, no one will find him.
https://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Spray-Holster-Access-Strength/dp/B002E6VAHK
Amazon prime that shit baby. https://www.amazon.com/Udap-12HP-UDAP-Bear-Spray/dp/B001QGYH7Y
Thoughts on this one? Seems similar just a better price https://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Spray-Holster-Access-Strength/dp/B002E6VAHK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1543592517&sr=8-4&keywords=bear+spray
Will stop them dead in their tracks and has a long range.
Frontiersman Bear Spray - Maximum Strength & Maximum Range - 35 Feet (9.2 oz) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0016WVQJU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yMvzCbBRWHGQ4
Bear mace. Can hit a target from 30 ft out and stop it from advancing. https://www.amazon.com/FRONTIERSMAN-Bear-Spray-Maximum-Strength/dp/B002BMOJXE/
I know there are dog variants of this but I can only vouch for what works on bears
Yes, throwaway for this question.
here's what I'd do.
http://www.amazon.com/Mace-Brand-Bear-Pepper-Spray/dp/B0002YSWIQ
If he comes at you in person, he's going to the hospital. Possibly dying.
You don't wanna play with this guy, or LE. If you weren't involved with DNM or drugs in general (especially Molly that shit gets crazy penalties), then yea, maybe you could stomp his shit. But right now it looks like he's trying to provoke you.
btw, has he made any demands? Like, is he trying to squeeze you?
I have a can of Sabre but I've never actually had to "use" it. Some friends of mine who are hiking guides up in Alaska carry it for what thats worth.
Can you get Bear Spray in the UK?
Bear Spray example
Pepper spray isn't legal, but this stuff is: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Safehaus-Defence-Spray-Criminal-Identifier/dp/B00DSP708O?tag=peppersprayuk-21
Bear spray or Pepper spray. A dose of this may well have disabled the creep until the police could wrap him up and totally remove the issue, and him.
There is something called a magnetic bear bell which warns bears of your presence. I am not sure how effective it is though. Mace is the way to go.
https://www.amazon.com/FRONTIERSMAN-BB-01-BK-Bear-Bell-Black/dp/B00VQ8ZXRK
Pocket sized? Fuck no don't keep it in your pocket.
http://www.amazon.com/Mace-Brand-Bear-Pepper-Spray/dp/B0002YSWIQ
This sprays 35 freakin feet!
Bear mace, you freedom-hating terrorist.
https://twitter.com/populationwatch/status/896910554492682240
Autists around the world are analyzing it, trying to find out who it is. There were a handful of cameras and they have pictures of him with a bunch of other people, but like all the Antifa goons, the guy was cosplaying as ISIS at the time. Supposedly he was wearing some pretty heavy duty goggles, so that means he knew what he was doing.
Given the style of can they think it might be Industrial Bear Spray -- it looked akin to this. https://www.amazon.com/Udap-12HP-UDAP-Bear-Spray/dp/B001QGYH7Y with the pull top.
What's the effects of using Bear Spray on a human eye?
Not good.
> My canister indicates it's 2.0% capcaisin and 'related capsaicinoids,' and comes with the warning that it "may cause irreversible eye damage if sprayed in the eye at close range." Couple that with the lack of the ability to breathe and your sinuses filling full of snot and tears in short order, it's what I call in my business "a bad day."
So while we're still figuring out what exactly it was (early reports were hydrochloric acid but those are unconfirmed, and fact checking myself says capcaisin isn't an acid so my bad on that) we do know he was hospitalized and they fear he has permanent eye damage if not blindness, which makes it a bit more than "mace."
Edit: Just so we're all on the same page... Antifa members were arrested for planning an acid attack on the alt-right months ago: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Protester-Pleads-Guilty-to-Discussing-Inaugural-Ball-Plot-415715103.html?amp=y
So the idea that they'd use acid isn't a stretch.
Bear spay.
https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Frontiersman-Holster-Options-Multi-Pack/dp/B0016WVQJU/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=bear+spray&qid=1575095204&sr=8-4
Bear spray has range, but it's weaker than the stuff you can get for people. Most bear spray is around 2% OC, while the human stuff is up to 17% OC
We don't have to be as nice to people as we are to animals.
Buy Bear Spray for piece of mind. It's basically just pepper spray that you can use from 30 feet away.
Here is the mobile version of your link
Or just take bear spray and clip in an easily accessible area, more effective than a gun or a knife
https://www.amazon.com/d/Camping-Bear-Protection-Products/Frontiersman-Bear-Spray-Maximum-Strength/B002BMOJXE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1549390096&sr=8-2&keywords=bear+spray
With a gun, I hope you brought a large caliber and have practiced with it enough to hit a moving target while dealing with a massive adrenaline rush. A knife is a bit to close for comfort.
Your reply got my attention so I did some quick research and you are partially right. It is illegal in some countries and you can get a fine if cough with it, but how often are you searched by Police? Yeah, so considering the risk and think it's still worth it because if unfortunately you will need to use it, what the attacker gonna press charges?
Here is a link with a list of countries and different laws that apply.
https://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/pepper-spray-europe/
UK is the most fucked up with paper spray = gun. One more reason not to go there. But they have this shitty thing: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DSP708O/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=bladespro-21&linkId=6ea6e859593bb744deca4d04edb75209
That is basically non toxic liquid dye that leaves both visible and invisible marks. Better than nothing in my opinion. The shock effect itself can be enough to get away. But still fuck UK and their stupid laws.
I have the Burn and it feels big to me, though I have not tried a bear canister in there. I also have one of these if you'd like me to try and see how it fits.
Accept no substitutes
bear spray
or a laser
https://www.amazon.com/Udap-BEF-Shock-Electric-Fence/dp/B001QGXNCY
weighs only 3 pounds
Bear Spray.
https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-Frontiersman-Holster-Options-Multi-Pack/dp/B0016WVQJU/
He knocked, you opened the door, he threatened you. You were in fear for your life and protecting your infant.
He's a known quantity with the cops and they know he's a whackjob.
you should keep a can of this under your desk for the next assult: http://www.amazon.com/Frontiersman-Bear-Attack-Deterrent-Holster/dp/B002E6VAHK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341810206&sr=8-1&keywords=bear+mace
Take your own bear spray and fucking spray them back you fucking pussies. Here, you can buy it on Amazon.
Jesus Christ ... how many times do you stupid fuckers have to get your necks stomped before you start stomping back?
Why the fuck is Linda Katehi still walking around the UC campus not in fear of being bear sprayed by you guys?
Bill Ayers bombed shit. That's how he got his power. Used it to install a President.
If they don't fear you, you're nothing.
Get bear spray.
> Especially if they get fucking shot every time they go into it.
yeah I'm sure the numerous surviving bears will go straight away explain to theyr mates that the bloody hole in their side was for trespassing a human house. That makes total sense. Maybe the bear could even write a book about this so that the other bears would have this decisive knwoledge widespread in their community.
> They figure out the whole "in there = death" thing pretty quick.
Those dead bears are very talkative. I'm impressed. And very fast too. Evolution takes decades to change the behaviours of most animals but bears, not at all, one or two dead bears and BAM every other bears are suddenly very aware of the danger.
Guess they have some kind of The Black Bear Times or DANGER: Your Only Source On Dangerous Predators for Black Bears".
> Most animals aren't dumb.
They aren't dumb they just don't think the way we do at all. They don't have the same concerns.
> a bear doesn't mean it can't learn these things.
Did you ever see a trained bear ? It takes literally years of intense training and positive reinforcement to get them to do anything reliably and even when they do we still have numerous cases of trained bears attacking their trainers. THIS IS A WILD ANIMAL, NOT A DOG.
> Killing them for breaking into our homes and threatening our well-being is neither wrong, nor is it going to have a substantial effect on their numbers.
Of course it's wrong if you don't make any kind of effort whatsoever to avoid this kind of situation. Other communities very well understood that leaving food in open garbage cans is like asking for bears to come and feast. They may think that it's dangerous to come close to a human house and even if they do, they will come anyway if they are hungry enough. A wild animal will not respond to being hungry like a human would do. They will just do anything possible to eat and they won't spend 10 minute wondering what's the best plan here. It's either I DIE THERE or I EAT THERE.
> But I'm curious, what do you think should be done in this scenario? Imagine you get up tonight to find a 400 pound black bear standing in your kitchen. You have your rifle locked and loaded. The bear shows no sign of leaving, and is starting to get a bit aggressive. What would you do?
Well any sane person would think that if you end up in that situation in the first place, something went wrong beforehand.
> Black bears have killed 61 people across North America since 1900. This no longer worries me. My chances of being killed by a domestic dog, bees, or lightning are vastly greater. My chances of being murdered are 60,000 times greater. One of the safest places a person can be is in the woods.
> Can we co-exist with black bears? The residents of Hemlock Farms, Pennsylvania suggest we can. Seven thousand residents share their seven square mile town with over 20 black bears. That's 3 bears per square mile, a higher density than is found in any national park. In that town, seeing a bear is not a problem - they enjoy seeing the bears.
yes this is the answer.
has to keep the anti-SJW defense up by making a point about it.
here's the reality:
most gun deaths in US are by suicide by white males. its not the method of death more than the fact there is so many cases of white male suicide thats worrying.
the top 10 countries with the most firearms per head of the population does not correlate strongly at all with the top 10 countries with firearms deaths per head of the population.
The pandora's box of guns in the united states has already been opened there is no way of putting it back especially when the second amendment is so entrenched into the thinking of most Americans.
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In the most recent case of the church shooting, an old kindly man with a grandpa beard and absolutely not any kind of rambo mentality managed to shoot and wound the murderer who had body armour and a helmet on, and the only reason he shot him to stop his continued spree [he had more guns in the car] was because he was using an AR-15 to confront the church shooter and not a handgun. The police took a while to respond and he hopped in a car with another fellow and they managed to stop the situation escalating to even more casualties outside of the church.
This guy is a hero, but not only that he very clearly mentioned how terrified he was about the whole ordeal and that he had to shoot at another person, and that he may need to go through grief counselling. That type of guy is what most responsible gun owners both look up too and are like.
Its a nuanced discussion reddit, and as much as you want to pretend violence will stop if guns are gone, it won't. Just the form of violence changes.
I do think however the various gun lobbies could do a better job of educating people on guns, gun safes and just everything basically.
Because most people who skew left have no clue what anything means and start saying stuff like 'assault weapons' without having much of a clue of what it all means.
I think further education would help a great deal.
I'm not even an American saying this, I'm a brit. We have absolutely zero form of effective legal self defense over here, lethal or non lethal it doesn't matter everything's banned.
That means if the police don't arrive within a few minutes you are getting hurt and there's nothing that can be done about it.
The best 'security' weapon on amazon uk for women is a can of spray paint to alert the police that the person in red paint was the thief, rapist or assailant. And the kicker? It has to be non-toxic. It doesn't mace, it doesn't irritate, it just does nothing.
My town is not a big place so it does not affect us here but when i visit or stay in a hostel up in london for a few days holy shit there is so much violent crime in some of the cheap accomodation areas. And police just can't respond to it all, or basically any of it depending on neighbourhood.
These are real problems that i think US lefties gloss over praising how forward thinking the UK was banning guns.
I just think the US is a different beast man, its part of your constitution, your culture and as a redditor said it keeps the government more in check than they would be without it gone.