Best camping stove accessories according to redditors
We found 268 Reddit comments discussing the best camping stove accessories. We ranked the 138 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 268 Reddit comments discussing the best camping stove accessories. We ranked the 138 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
I’ve seen a few posts with those gas bottles and I have it saved in my Amazon list, I think I’m going to have to get one and carry it.
www.amazon.com/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ED0rDbZB8QC5K
It's Light My Fire, who produce the Swedish Fire Steel, which has been said to be one of the best ferrocerium fire starters out there.
From their website:
>Our Tinder starters are made of stumps from cultivated pine (fatwood) from the highlands of Honduras. With their 80% resin content, our Tinder starters are extremely easy to light and work even when wet since it is the resin (oil) that burns not the wood.
I cannot stress the importance of a good multi-tool enough. I love the whole line of multi-tools by SOG. This one is particularly nice because it has some gearing to give you mechanical advantage. http://sogknives.com/store/S67.html
Also instead of water, try to get your hands on some Lifestraws. Much more efficient use of space. http://www.vestergaard-frandsen.com/lifestraw
Matches are nice but something like a Swedish fire steel or a fire piston would last longer. http://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Solutions-Scout-Fire-Piston/dp/B002WVC0FI
It was a top post from a few months back. The video can explain it better than I can.
Basically, he was a streamer playing with a metal match (something like this), and through a sequence of mindblowing stupidity and lack of common-sense, he burnt down his apartment complex. IIRC, people posted that no one was hurt, but coincidentally, there was another fire somewhere else that that killed someone that same day.
Car camping and backpacking are two very different things so here's my input for both:
Tent:
For car camping, go for the 4-person. More space, the better, no need to worry about the weight, etc. Also, they can be pretty inexpensive. I actually don't own a car camping tent, but I borrow my parent's REI one when I need it-I think they have a Camp Dome? With proper care, I think most will last a while. My best friend's Walmart tent was purchased for her girl scout trips 20 years ago and its still going strong. REI is reliably a strong brand and I think they've got a couple options on sale right now.
For backpacking, go light and stick with a 2 person (as long as you like your hiking buddies-otherwise get a 1person and tell them to bring their own). There is usually large price jump between the superlight (3-4lbs) and ultralight (2-3lbs) so it might depend on your budget. I went with super light and am a big fan of my two Big Agnes tents (1person Tumble and 2 person Rattlesnake). I also splurged (about 20$ more) for the versions with built in lights-they don't replace a headlamp but they are still super convenient.
Stove:
Car Camping: Mine is a ~50 year old Coleman gas stove that my brother gave me... he says he finds them at thrift stores all the time and they take a little know-how but last forever.
Backpacking: My brother also gave me this one? What is it with my brother gifting me with stoves? It's not the smallest one you can get, but it is inexpensive and has worked well for me for the last few months. The electric ignition is a plus, although the instructions are sparse and I only discovered it was there when I shocked myself with it!
Lantern:
Car Camping: Again, I borrow this off my parents. My mother has some weird off-brand one that falls apart on me occasionally but has a built in fan. If you're planning on doing any summer camping, maybe look for one with a fan?
Backpacking: Headlamp is usually sufficient for most, but I've shared campsites with people who bring the little inflatable ones (luci, I think the brand name is?) which have been nice-I just prefer other "luxuries" for the weight. Or you can get built in lights (see my tent section)
Cookware:
Car Camping: Just grab a pot/pan/cooking utensils from home. Or go to a thrift store and pick up a decent set to keep in your camping bin so you don't have to move it in and out of your kitchen. Space and weight aren't any concern here.
Backpacking: The MSR two person set can sometimes be found for cheap at Sierra Trading Post-that's where I got mine. Seems sturdy over the couple trips I've taken it on, mugs are a weird shape but nicely insulated. I just grabbed the GSI soloist set during the REI fall sale so I haven't been able to test it yet, but the MSR was big when I was only cooking for one person, so it should shave some weight and save some space for me. I might invest in a titanium mug at some point because I don't love the plastic ones in either set but it's not essential, just a preference.
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Well, that was long. Let me know if there's anything you'd like more in-depth reviews of. I'm a recent convert too and put a lot of research into my purchases so always happy to share the tips. Happy camping!!
I've done it. But you're going to need something bigger than one of those tiny cooking torches. I picked up one of these professional torches and some butane fuel to go with it.
Using a real culinary torch instead of a poor, tiny substitute makes a world of difference when searing a steak too.
Lol, OP you beat me to it! I discussed this *here the other day and then because data is king I put it all in a spreadsheet. *Edit: Data' in the original post was completely shooting from the hip. Actual measured weights and volumes are contained in the spreadsheet below.
Here is the TL;DR: Alcohol stoves are efficient up to 4 days, after that the fuel becomes much heavier. If you take a half/used gas canister then alcohol effectively has no advantage at all. This is easily shown in the graphs presented here:
Graphs | Spreadsheet
Because alcohol as UL has been ingrained so long, there are some holdouts who might not believe it, but the data is here.
My write-up:
> Alcohol has been the go-to choice for ULers for just about as long as UL has been a philosophy. When comparing stove systems many have for years bemoaned the extra weight penalty that gas canisters impose on hikers and turned their nose up at the idea that gas could be considered "ultralight".
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> Review sites in the past have typically taken a popular gas stove and pitted it against the lightest alcohol stoves available. For many people this is a cat can stove, aka fan Fancee Feest (Fancy Feast) stove made popular by Andrew Skurka in 2011. It's cheap, light, easy to make, and takes up virtually no space in a pack. As we'll see here, however, the gap between both systems has pretty much come to an end.
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> I own both a homemade FF cat stove, Jetboil Flash, and most recently, the BRS-3000T. As things go this type of comparison between stoves has occurred and been documented a few times in the past, but more often than not testers/reviewers were not using the lightest gas stove available. In our case, this is the 25g BRS-3000T.
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> I have put together actual data collected using both the Fancy Feast stove and the BRS stove. The weights I use for fuel are the average from 6 burns on each system. The fuel used for the cat can stove is Klean-Strip Green Denatured Alcohol and for the BRS is Jetboil Jetpower (100g)
> All data is based on boiling two cups of water, twice per day. Two meals basically. The spreadsheet is downloadable/editable to add your own alcohol stove and compare weight savings.
Swedish Firesteel.
I don't know if these are the same item but MEC frequently has products for 25-50% less than Canadian Tire:
http://www.mec.ca/product/5046-753/light-my-fire-tinder-on-a-rope/
I used to love CTC; they're really disappointing these days. They engaged in the race for the bottom and have turned into a crappy second to Walmart. (for our American friends: Walmart Canada sucks compared to Walmart USA)
EDIT - Amazon.ca: https://www.amazon.ca/Light-My-Fire-TinderSticks-180g-220g/dp/B000CS44ZW/
Yeah, we get royally boned on prices up here.
A good ferro rod: Light My Fire Firesteel Army. Works reliably for me and is fairly beefy. Delivers a nice big spark.
"Best" fire starter: A Bic lighter or two with the child guard removed for using in general, with (stormproof matches](https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B004PIBWW8/) and some kind of prepared/chemical longer (like WetFire, cotton balls and vaseline, etc) as a backup.
I haven't ever had a bic lighter fail on me. Even if it gets wet, blowing on it to dry it out usually will get it working in under a minute. Remove the child safety thing to make it a bit easier to use.
The matches are a backup because it takes less fine motor skills to use them - you can clench them in a fist and sort of stab them against the striker and it'll usually get them lit. The stormproof one's burn a pretty long time and are hard to extinguish. The engineered tinder should be dry when nothing else is and save you some time prepping the finer tinder when you need a fire quickly. Both of these factors matter when you're wet and hypothermic and you're shaking too hard to use the lighter and it was just pouring rain so fine tinder isn't available quickly and easily.
If it's light my fire, it's the most resinous fatwood I have ever seen. I got a pack of something similar thrown in once when I bought a fire steel and a mess kit from a light my fire stand at a Scout Jamboree, and it was something amazing. I would shave off a couple a curls of the stick, and it would blaze like nothing else. I don't know if it's really worth spending money on, but the quality of the timber is not in question to me at all.
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Liquid-Fuel-Bottle-11-Ounce/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=sr_1_22?keywords=msr%2Bfuel&qid=1569689581&s=gateway&sr=8-22&th=1
I stranded myself on the freeway once, once.
Then I went straight to REI and bought a fule bottle. Haven't gotten stuck since.
I would have a P-38 or P-51 military style can opener. They are small, and can also be used as a small blade or box cutter in case of emergency. I keep one on key ring. I also have this tiny flashlight which you could make smaller by removing the clip that hooks to a keychain. It is tiny and bright. A universal handcuff key, a tiny firesteel you can scrape with the P-38 can opener, and a tiny compass. Those are nice places to start.
I keep a neck knife kit on me at all times when backpacking, even if I'm just going 50ft away from my gear. It's barely noticeable. Around the sheath I keep a ranger band that holds a miniature firesteel, a good amount of duct tape (medical, gear repair, fire starting, and so much more!), and a small fenix light. Notice that all of these items are dirt cheap yet make all the difference in the world if you get stuck. I could make fire and shelter easily if there is any wood debris around.
About a month ago I climbed Mt Baden-Powell. I was planning on spending the night but weather would not permit it so I had to hike back in the dark. TWO of my lights failed that night. Fortunately they were not my headlamp but just a lil lantern and penlight, but still it shows that stuff can happen. Regardless, even if my headlamp had failed I still would have at least had SOME light to hike back with.
I want to add a couple of these to my bike for longer trips soon;
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015I0GE6/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
mounted with this;
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HEJ24Y/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A4KBP2A3U6C7U
In My Bag:
Survival Tins --
--Medical--
--Fire--
Other --
Much better deal
http://www.amazon.com/Wood-Products-9910-Fatwood-Pounds/dp/B000HHO4W6
Looks pretty similar to the Coleman regulator
It's called an "MSR fuel bottle"
http://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S
Most people get a little strappy holster and put it on the outside of their bike.
The vape: https://vaporgenie.com/stainless-steel-coil-vaporizer
The glass: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QYLYZ52 (J-hook link lost. Add your own 14mm mouthpiece)
The cooling beads: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074C4FPWK
The heat/shock protection wrap: https://www.amazon.com/Homgaty-Sealing-Insulation-Silicone-Waterproof/dp/B0779MCF6V
The torch: https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Torch-Lighter-Windproof-Refillable/dp/B01IROKNMA
All in all a super smooth, easy-to-control experience that can deliver huge hits with tons of flavor. I love this rig.
REI usually has them for like $5-6
I tried to find the link but they're not available on their website... Have to go in to the store to find them... here's an Amazon link for 3x the cost.
3.53oz/100g
(Nests perfectly in my toaks 550ml and 650ml)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NMAMOO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HkvSCbJEQ9YW2
I dunno, after searching the entire internet the closest thing I could find that supported your statement were some survival matches: http://www.amazon.com/Fantastic-Wind-Waterproof-Survival-Matches/dp/B007CP6UK0
That gives me the following tools: camera, phone, flashlight (phone's LED flash - surprisingly bright), emergency phone charger, 8Gb USB stick / flash card, phone data cable (phone has an additional 32Gb microSD card), knife, file, wire stripper / cutter, pliers, philips / flathead screwdrivers, bottle opener, scissors, marker, corkscrew, fire starter, and keys.
I also generally carry my ID and debit card, not pictured.
I've been slowly buying things for a Z.B.O.B. (Zombie Bug Out Bag)
No bag yet, but what I have collected so far:
Weapons
Remington 870 Tactical shot gun
Glock 19
Ruger GP100
Ka-Bar 1282 D2 Extreme
Tools
Crovel
Wrecking Bar 18"
200 ft Climbing rope
Hand powered radio
Swedish Firesteel
Supplies
1st aid kit
Water purifier
I have a whole laundry list. Every payday I buy something new. Next up the Razel SS7!
Edit: for format and links
MSR 30oz Fuel bottle, $17 on amazon
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-11832-Fuel-Bottle-30oz/dp/B0015I0GE6
Zip tie it to your bike if you're not the kind to ride with saddlebags/backpack to put it in
I've used it multiple times for myself and others, a quarter gallon is enough to get you to the nearest station unless you REALLY fucked up, even if you only get 30 mpg it's still >7 miles of fuel, double that for a 250 or so.
Went on a few hikes to up my endurance. Climbed upriver at a river gorge up a few small waterfalls.
Learned how to locate and identify possible fatwood sources and how to harvest them. Also bought 10 lbs of it just to have an ample supply while I continue learning how to buy some more. FYI, I bought this one from Amazon at just about $2.30/lb, though if you prefer a sack (I didn't, I want stackability) you can get it cheaper from this listing here. Both are 10 lbs worth, which is a lot. Quality will most likely be much worse than what you could potentially find out in the woods yourself, but it's the cheapest you'll find online, as long as you have Prime.
Picked up a bunch of antibiotics and tinctures for medicine, got a bunch of matches and other fire starting paraphernalia. Basically lots of small stuff for potential trading, or just to have on hand. Also bought a ton of industrial grade bulk AA and AAA batteries (basically off-brand Duracell batteries). After having read up on bartering, I'm going to start purchasing bulk/surplus lighters, keeping all our spare knives and box cutters in a 'surplus' box, hoarding matches, batteries, etc.
Am researching and saving up money for a potential gas piston air rifle, as 22LR is impossible to get my hands on here, and I could easily purchase several thousand pellets at a fraction of the price. (For example, 10,000 rounds of 22LR at $0.13/round (this was the cost for the only 22LR I can find), I would be able to purchase 50 rounds a day if I wanted to drive 20 miles round trip every day. Total cost would be $1300+gas+tax. Purchasing an air rifle ($~250 tops) + 10,000 rounds of .22 caliber pellets ($150) would give me a quiet, reliable small game rifle with ample amounts of ammunition at less than half the cost.
I also plan on purchasing a used Keltec PF9. I already own a Bodyguard 380 for concealed carry, but I want a higher caliber that can still be concealed if SHTF. Would love to get a UMP 9mm but that's just dreaming and way too flashy for a civilian to lug around :P
Right now I'm planning out how to reorganize my garage to give me one centralized space in storing all my prep materials. I'll be doing that this weekend. Will also put together a kit for bugging-in defense. Tape for reinforcing windows, sheets of plywood cut to fit over window covers (or maybe not, space is super limited still :/ ) buying extra door locks that protect from people kicking in doors (still a moot point if I can't cover up our massive ground-level window)
I switched to this stove because I was tired of the balancing act:
Terra Hiker 3500W Camping Gas Stove, Backpack Stove, with Convenient Piezo Ignition, Durable & Portable Burner with Carrying Case https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XVV525Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_dnk4twAhU5O5d
And, I admit, I keep it in my bugout bag, just in case. I find a magnesium firestarter to be perfect. Lightweight, and very similar effects.
Nichtraucher machen das mit einem Feuerstahl Ü
Not a big deal, I'm always happy to help
It seems like they're popular with the outdoor/survival crowd? I've skimmed through some amazon reviews of one model and there are apparently some benefits, but I'm everything else than well informed when it comes to lighters
EDIT: I'm still not sure how they are called(in English) though
I bought this low brow custom mini gas can holder that has two Velcro straps to mount it on the forks or part of the frame of a bike. I am only using one in the middle and looped it through the helmet hook thing and tightened the Velcro around it. Be warned though, the Velcro has rubbed off part of the paint on the fairing it rests on due to friction of it moving when the bike is moving. So I put two clear rubber stubs that prevent contact of the Velcro with the fairing which seems to help but the paint in that area is already messed up now. Lol and I get around 5-10 extra miles, which is usually more than enough to get my to the next closest gas station, at least where I live.
Here’s a link to the mount:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F322247080364
And the fuel bottle, I bought the 30oz
MSR Liquid Fuel Bottle, 30-Ounce https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_a.S.BbYM4PC30
Sorry if formatting is weird, I’m on mobile.
Eagle torches are cheap and have a lock that will keep the torch on. You can light it using your index and lock it with your thumb then set it down on the table. They make a large model that has a cylinder shaped tank that I have two of and they work great.
The ones I have look like this
Appears to be a new model Can't speak for the quality of the new model.
Have you been tent camping before? This may seem like the cheapest way to go, but if you don't already have your camping equipment already this can be an expensive way to go.
Using amazon:
I'm leaving some stuff out, but you're looking at about another $209 added to the cost of staying at Fort Wilderness.
Let's not forget that if you aren't sure about being comfortable with tent camping, It rains like you've rarely ever seen every day in Florida. Usually for short periods of time, but are you willing to tent camp in a tropical rainstorm over night?
I am a huge advocate of Fort Wilderness. I've loved the place since my parents took me there as a child (with a pull behind RV) in the mid 1970's. I suggest you go to the Chip and Dale Campfire Sing-A-Long, and Movies Under The Stars while you are there. If you can afford it go to the Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue as well. However, tent camping in Florida is quite different than tent camping anywhere else. Maybe wait a little longer until you can afford to stay at one of the All-Star resorts.
I have it and it's served me well.
However if I were to buy again, I'd probably go with this one, just because it's more stable with a pot of water because it wouldn't be so top-heavy due to the canister being off to the side. Sometimes it's hard to find a fully flat surface out in the woods. It's just safer overall.
Can't go wrong either way though.
I often bring a firesteel striker - it can be fun to start your campfire "old school". (That said, I still bring a lighter as a backup.)
Nah, firesteel.com don't make that plastic-nub handle thing on the bottom and use a different striker. That looks more like a 'classic' Light-My-Fire Army model.
Edit: That seems to be the generic Coghlan's copy of it actually, based on the striker. I've found Coghlan's products to be hit-or-miss. Mostly miss with critical equipment. I wouldn't recommend getting one.
OP should still get the Firesteel.com one. Superior product in my opinion. I recommend the Gobspark Armageddon as it has a nice handle and optional palm scraper (Get it, worth the money). Makes lighting fire with cold hands easier and you don't scrape the skin off your thumbs with the striker.
Yeah, that was a bit cunty, my bad.
If you're going to do it (wouldn't recommend it), but at least look into a better container. These are for a different kind of fuel, but it's aluminum and apparently a lot of people use them for gas.
http://www.amazon.com/MSR-11832-Fuel-Bottle-30oz/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1421017999&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=MSR
I wanted to have a stove do double-duty. Especially when it came to fuel. I have the MSR Whisperlight International stove. I carry 2 fuel canisters (30oz ea). I had one back when I was backpacking and it never let me down, but sold it when I left Colorado for the midwest where camping just didnt hold up to the Rockies.
It will use Unleaded fuel. As will the bike. So, in case I get stuck somewhere with an empty bike, I can use the stove fuel to get me another 40+ miles to a gas station where I can refuel everything.I have never had any issue with the stove heating water or making soup or rice or anything else, and the burn rate on the gasoline is fairly good, I didnt even use half a tank all year last year camping.
MSR Whisperlight International Stove
MSR Fuel Canisters
No matter what, it will come down to preference. Jet Boil works great, but it is quite a bit larger and you have to have special fuel canisters and all. The MSR is just what I happen to like the best and suits my needs.
It's neither flint, magnesium, nor a sharpener. You my friend are now the owner of a Swedish Fire-steel (though it IS Bear Gryllis branded)
http://www.amazon.com/Light-Fire-Original-Swedish-FireSteel/dp/B0013L8D9K
Make a pile of tinder and stroke the tab firmly down the steel (the striker tab should be more squared on one edge) and watch the rain of sparks!
They work magnificently for starting fires!
A magnesium bar would be much shinier and softer for easy shaving.
I was dead-set on a JetBoil MiniMo. Walked into REI with a more experienced buddy and we put this setup together...its smaller and lighter than a mini-mo and way more flexible for the future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BKJNYchiEo
parts list:
Snow Peak 700 - https://smile.amazon.com/Snow-Peak-Trek-Titanium-Cookset/dp/B000AR2N7Q
4oz fuel - https://smile.amazon.com/Jetboil-Jetpower-4-Season-Fuel-Blend/dp/B000NMAMOO
jetboil base - https://smile.amazon.com/Jetboil-Fuel-Can-Stabilizer-Size/dp/B00MUYUDC4
BRS stove - https://smile.amazon.com/BRS-3000T-Outdoor-Camping-Cooking-Ultra-light/dp/B072N82R83
bic mini lighter - https://smile.amazon.com/Lot-Mini-Ebony-Black-Lighters/dp/B00863W71I
MSR french press - https://smile.amazon.com/MSR-Windburner-Coffee-Press-Kit/dp/B00YOBML2Q
Vargo folding spork - https://smile.amazon.com/Vargo-T-217-Titanium-Folding-Spork/dp/B004R1LYEO
PackTowel UL face towel - https://smile.amazon.com/Packtowl-UltraLite-Face-Towel-Clay/dp/B017W4M7N4
dish soap - https://smile.amazon.com/Sea-Summit-Wilderness-Ounce-250ml/dp/B0029W1394
I've been experimenting a bit with steaks in my sous vide, and have had good results with sirloin (although I've had better results with ribeye).
I generally do them at 125 or so (127-128 is supposed to be the perfect temp for medium rare), then blacken them with a blowtorch and a bit of butter.
A few hours seems way, way too long to me: I do them for more like 45 minutes to an hour. If you cook them for hours, you're going to get kind of jellyish squidgy meat (I've done this to pork and chicken while experimenting, and it's pretty unpleasant-- I have no idea what makes anyone give these as recipes).
They come out great at an hour or so at 125-130.
I use one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Iwatani-Torch-Burner-Professional-Cb-tc-pro/dp/B0027HO3XO/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1381098080&sr=8-2&keywords=iwatani+torch
with this as fuel:
http://www.amazon.com/Iwatani-Butane-Canister-7-8-Pack/dp/B00CKPXW9Y/ref=pd_sim_k_2
Amazon sells a few different fuel bottles:
There are more options, as well.
Yep! The Nightster has a "king sportster" tank, 3.3 gallons.
It looks just like the 2.2 gallon peanut on the 48, but it's wider and buys you over a gallon in fuel (and almost another 50 miles of range).
It's a good compromise between the standard peanut, which looks amazing but has tiny range, and the "Custom" Sportster tank which holds 4 gallons but looks dorky.
If you get some sort of luggage or a sissy bar, you can attach one of these - just in case:
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B0015I0GE6?th=1&psc=1
You can count on having a little under 150 miles worth of usable range - a little over 2 hours between fuel stops. To be honest, I find stopping every 2 hours to stretch nice, but some people need the larger tank because they only want to stop every 3 hours or more.
Totally up to you how quick of a pace you want to keep up while touring, it really only takes 5 minutes to fuel up, so it's not THAT big of a deal.
Any of the usual isobutane canisters. They look like this
well maybe a firestarter or even a compass
Or maybe flint & steel? It wouldn't work directly, but it would let you start a flame if you even had some paper or something.
Like this or smth:
http://www.amazon.com/Swedish-Firesteel-Model-Black-Handle/dp/B0013L2DKU/ref=tag_dpp_lp_edpp_ttl_ex
Just get some fuel bottles.
http://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S
If you prefer ultralight like me, then this setup works.
•Hammock (I use a Hennessy Hammock)
•A couple of spare fuel bottles such as the MSR ones MSR Fuel Bottle
•At least 3 liters of water strapped on somewhere. If its real hot then might want to strap on a camel back that way you can hydrate while you ride.
•A stash food in somewhere (Almonds are great for this)
•Tool kit, I wouldn't bother buying a tool kit. You should buy a pouch and tailor the tools you will need according to your bike, don't carry tools that won't even fit your bike.)
•Ditch cotton, its a horrible fabric for the outdoors. Go regular wool or if you don't like the "Itch" factor some complain about, then get merino wool.
There are more, I'll update later.
•Don't wear short sleeves whatever you do, it fatigues you more than you can imagine when your going off of a 1,000mile a day ride. If possible get a jacket that ventilates but also blocks to wind off you.
•Full Face, a must really. Too many advantages over a half shell and the like.... wind protection, decreased noise, and added protection in the case of a fall.
•Ear Plugs, Never 50+ miles without them.
•Not really a piece of gear, but a tip for when you are in a hotel. Ask for a room on the 1st floor and pull your bike up RIGHT NEXT to the door. Lock the wheel and take your gear off it. Probably the best way of making sure no one messes with your bike during the night.
•The best way to combat rain really is to get a waterproof top/bottom,water resistant boots, full face helmet, decent gloves.
There are a few things you can do. (Source: I have a bike with a small tank, only about 100 mi/160 km range, and was planning on taking some long trips before it died on me.)
Have a great ride! I gotta get me a new bike....
I have a couple of these.
They don't hold a ton, but they are relatively cheap and stand up to abuse well.
No, buy one of these for the backpack/saddlebags/whatever
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-11832-Fuel-Bottle-30-Ounce/dp/B0015I0GE6
https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Stove-Pressure-Regulator-Valve/dp/B000646U3Q/ref=asc_df_B000646U3Q/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167126940649&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7117331791761644861&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028124&hvtargid=pla-309402234138&psc=1
Edit: i know that is for a coleman but mayne it would work? If you still have the manual that came with the stove it should have the part number for it or if you have the busted regulator check it for a number. In the future I would try to steer clear of anything ozark trails that has moving parts as it tends to be crap. Their cups, lanterns, packs, etc. tend to do alright
Check Amazon and/or google around, there are lots out there.
http://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Solutions-Scout-Fire-Piston/dp/B002WVC0FI
the best you can have in your backpack is a firesteel starter, for example this one (very durable, 12000 strikes, usable in every condition): amazon link
They are also cheap.
I will go ahead and be honest here. I am really not much of an outdoorsy person. I would much rather stay inside in my clean, dry, air conditioned, safe home than be out in the dirty/dusty, humid and sometimes rainy, fucking hot as hell, filled with bugs and evil wild animals Arizona desert. But the thing is, my SO is a HUGE outdoors person. So I am trying really hard to overcome my aversion to these activities and get out and do some fun stuff with her.
We have planned a little camping trip for ourselves, but we're waiting on the weather. The middle of Phoenix summer is no time to go out into the desert. So when things cool down a bit and get stable (monsoon season is so unpredictable) we will take a friends truck out to the middle of nowhere. Hike a couple miles up to one of SO's favorite spots. Set up a tent and stuff and rough it for a couple nights.
So, obviously being out in the middle of nowhere with little to no resources could be a problem. Fire is necessary. So I would really like to have either this really cool lighter or this striker set.
Thanks for the contest! :)
the only problems i see are 1: only 10 purification tablets? 2:knife looks pretty terrible. 3: firesteel is too short to get a really good spark out of. but these can all be handled. replace the tablets with household bleach. 2-3 drops in a pint will purify it. take out the tablets and knife to replace with the bleach. then just get [a better firesteel] (http://www.amazon.com/Light-my-Fire-Swedish-Firesteel/dp/B0013L8D9K/ref=pd_sim_sg_77) and put it in there, too. also, the tree saw looks kinda wimpy.
Is it this Coleman 5430 Regulator https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000646U3Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jB.Tzb6S0MAG4
Here's one on Amazon. It's about the most complicated way of making fire I can think of but it's apparently been in use for thousands of years.
Basically you got a kit that is a GearWhores dream, what you don't have is a kit that will keep you alive for more than a few days.
A) the ability to clean and carry water.
B) the ability to make fire.
C) shelter to keep dry/warm (a simple poncho and Mylar Blankets at first)
At this point you could live for a couple weeks, and you've spent $40+ cost of pack
D) food, start with compact shelf stable foods, like the dry emergency rations or these.
A couple weeks worth is like $20, now if you ration you could live for over a month.
3)Now throw away everything else left on the floor.
As the other person pointed out you have 60+ pounds of junk. That fact is a kit to keep you alive for over a month should cost $60 and fit in a shoe box.
It's an MSR fuel bottle for their liquid fuel camping stoves. They come in 3 different sizes, the one he's using is the 30 oz. The stoves run on white gas, kerosene and gasoline and have an excellent safety seal. Used one for my 6 month camping adventure around the US =)
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Liquid-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B0015I0GE6/
This little feller has saved me half a dozen times and stranded travelers on the side of the road at least twice as much. You've got no excuse with those saddle bags. Pick one up and fill it up for a buck and forget about it. Boy scout shops will have one for about the same price if you don't want to wait for shipping.
Order this and this...I use this for my sears and it works just fine. Honestly, it's as safe as anything, and you don't need to buy insurance because you have that in your flat. Just be smart about using it (i.e. don't set it down while still burning, don't put the cans in the microwave, etc...
Don't forget your windproof matches! The dryer lint works well as kindling but you still need matches or some other source of fire. Don't rely on liquid lighters to function, especially if they get wet.
Most of the time I use one of these but matches do the trick, too!
Small fuel bottle and maybe even one of those Slime mini air pumps if you're going to be offroad where the chances of getting a flat are greatly increased.
I carried lots of shit with my KLR like sockets and spares and stubby wrenches and fuel and the air pump and tubes etc etc etc.
How small? Iso canister stoves are basically the standard for hiking - something like this as a small, cheap and light stove, which screws straight on to a fuel canister like this. You can also opt for white fuel stoves like this one if international fuel availability or extreme cold weather performance matters. They use refillable fuel bottles that come in various sizes to meet your need. Finally, alcohol stoves are fairly popular as a lightweight, if slower, option - I have this one, though plenty of people make their own from aluminum or tin cans. Fuel can be carried in pretty much whatever, since you just pour some into the stove before use.
I have looked a these, but still prefer a Light My Fire [Firesteel] (http://www.amazon.com/Light-Fire-Original-Swedish-FireSteel/dp/B0013L2DKU/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1412084534&sr=1-2&keywords=light+my+fire+firesteel) for about the same price. Makes sparks whether it is wet or dry and fewer moving parts or things to break. Took me about 4-5 years to wear out my first one.
Get a canister of spare fuel. Always useful to have. I have this one It can also be used to store propane and other flammible liquids.
IIRC drinks can are aluminium, so I don't think it will spark unfortunately. If you wanted something that will spark look for steel or iron... or go to a camping store and pick up a cheap flint and steel like this and believe me you will get ridiculous sparks
My buddy just has 2 1 gal stainless steel tanks that he throws in a backpack.
My dad has a left side number rear number plate that he bolts onto his KTM.
http://www.motosport.com/acerbis-auxiliary-handlebar-fuel-tank
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-Liquid-Fuel-Bottle-30-Ounce/dp/B0015I0GE6/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540218512&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=white+fuel+bottle&dpPl=1&dpID=41xkfbeRMIL&ref=plSrch something like this for the fuel. And I seen alot of stoves just cliped to the outside of the pace with a carabiner
Realistically I just carry a fuel bottle for the stove with some gasoline in it. That way I can run the stove, but if I need it there's also a little spare fuel for the bike.
If I need to move it back and forth, a few feet of this:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/EASTMAN-3-8-in-x-20-ft-PVC-Clear-Vinyl-Tubing/1000180543
Will make a siphon just fine.
ETA: These are the fuel bottles that the stove uses:
https://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S
Good idea. You mean something like this, right? https://www.amazon.com/MSR-MSRFUELBOTT-Fuel-Bottle/dp/B002L1413S
Hey, just wondering do you carry one of these bad boys around? if so how do you make a custom kydex holster for it, my first game with my G5 was pretty fun, but carrying the tank really slowed me down.
edit: whoops I replied to the wrong person.
Why not just buy this instead?
http://www.amazon.com/Light-Fire-TinderSticks-Building-Approximately/dp/B000CS44ZW/ref=pd_sim_sg_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0821KT8WAGNDH8CBKPVP
Three times the amount of fat wood for only 50% more.
I keep a Doan bar in my fire kit (along with a LOT of other things) as a backup to my Ferro rod, because the Magnesium shavings will light even if they're wet. However, they're useless unless you can put together a good tinder bundle.
If I were you, since you're starting out practicing in your backyard, I'd get:
• The Mora
• A good Ferro rod, like a Light My Fire or a Firesteel Armageddon (my favorite and what I use)
• And some Jute Twine.
Learn how to carve feather sticks and focus on getting fires started with natural materials and a ferro rod, as well as fluffing up the Jute Twine for making tinder bundles.
Also, use the Jute Twine to practice tying useful knots that will come in handy for setting up your tarp later.
I'd get the tarp and some paracord next and practice setting that up.
I'd save money and get the canteen and cook kit once you're actually ready to go out and use them.
It was recommended to my by a couple of very experienced members of the sub. I was initially confused as well by the number of options. The exact one that I purchased was https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IROKNMA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
Also have an Aomai like this one that works very well.
https://www.amazon.com/Piioket-Cigarette-Lighter-Windproof-Refillable/dp/B017UV66KY/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=aomai+lighter&qid=1573244213&sr=8-16
ok here's one random one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013L2DKU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2PMA0MWVQ27ZZ&coliid=INY2OPVM6JTUO&psc=1
The matches if anyone is interested.
LifeStraw Personal Water Filter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006QF3TW4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_auwxyb6ZHA3TA
Light My Fire Swedish FireSteel 2.0 Army 12,000 Strike Fire Starter with Emergency Whistle - Orange https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00440VIYY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8vwxybMH94DCD
Bushcraft 101: A Field Guide to the Art of Wilderness Survival https://www.amazon.com/dp/1440579776/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zwwxyb6W5HFFH
A water purifier, fire maker, and a book on how to do outdoor stuff. All under $40 :)
What's to understand? It's a lighter.
If you're going to be camping, I'd recommend something like this
It's basically a flint and steel on a keyring
I've looked them up. I actually that the come in more than one color! teehee
I have mini propane bottles. Portablity is a pro and the con is you need to refill more often. Make sure you always have a backup.
You can have it shipped to your door.
Personally, I just grabbed a 30 Oz MSR bottle. I would be actively searching for stations with ~25 miles left in my tank, and I figured this would be enough to limp me along if I ever cut it way too close. It's also very easy to pack.
You have clearly planned your trip much more than I did, considering I decided about 30 minutes before I left with no clear route, so I think it would be pretty easy to figure out available gas stations given your route.
Never seen them before bust very interesting... just watched a video on Youtube They use char clothe with the fire piston
They have them on amazon but they are a bit pricey...
Where's your ferro rod for your keychain?
Should be a fairly standard piece if we're talking about the one pound tank ones. Maybe this? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000646U3Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?qid=1398572182&sr=8-14&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
If not I would try and find the brand so we can help you more.
A good [http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004172IG2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1464050829&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=lite+my+fire+firesteel&dpPl=1&dpID=41K92tB3CZL&ref=plSrch] (fire steel) is always useful. Waterproof, extremely reliable, and light weight. This one has a survival whistle built in too.
this song is great. and this is the most useful thing i could think of.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IROKNMA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Simple Eagle Flame torch
I knew if it didn't work this time I was going to be stranded, but that was because I was specifically running it to reserve. Normally I fill up after 100 miles just to be on the safe side. For now, I think I'm going to order to MSR bottles and mount them inside a couple of waterproof manual canisters that will fit 30oz MSRs.
MSR bottles: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015I0GE6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Containers: http://www.agrisupply.com/manual-canister-large-with-neoprene-seal/p/67670/
I have this item and it's really sturdy and handy. It's the TARDIS Emergency Fund Keychain
I would love the Dalek Exterminate!!! pattern
This is not war...this is pest control!
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Thanks for the contest!
Always keep 2 of these in the saddle, just in case
I tried using a non venting gas can, transmission fluid bottles and an old MSR Stove fuel bottle.
I'll add to the diversity of opinion here and say that I don't like Bic lighters because they tend to fail in windy conditions. In my experience even mild wind can be a problem and a strong wind makes them unusable.
The firesteels are my favorite. I like the ones with the magnesium block. If you learn to use the magnesium properly that is a guaranteed fire in absolutely any conditions. Waterproof matches are probably fine almost any conditions as well.
So there's nothing wrong with the Bic, but like /u/greggorievich said, you should have a backup.