Best education theory books according to redditors

We found 499 Reddit comments discussing the best education theory books. We ranked the 294 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.

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u/joelman0 · 21 pointsr/funny

I would say that Gatto's Underground History got me thinking about modern public education. He is kind of a wingnut, but he has lots of good history, and points about our modern industrial education system. That led me to learn about the history of education, and I realized that when we abandoned the classical liberal arts tradition, we lost a lot. So basically, I thought that by using the Core Knowledge Curriculum, combined with Latin and Singapore Math, we could provide a better education than our local public schools.

Sadly, there's as much variation in the quality of homeschooling as there is in the quality of public schools, apparently, but from what I've seen in our homeschooling community, an involved, caring parent will do just as well as, if not better than the average public school.

As to the reasons for going back to school, a few of her friends decided to go to high school, which means the end of her reading and writing groups. We were prepared to go all the way, but she decided to try high school. I don't have many worries, other than the normal parent-of-teenager worries. She's got a good head on her shoulders.

u/also_HIM · 19 pointsr/Parenting

>Husband still wants him doing as much if it as possible, but I think we can reasonably cut WAY down on it.

Have him take a look at the research.

u/JBlitzen · 17 pointsr/Showerthoughts

There's a compelling and well-supported theory that the American public education system is based on the Prussian education system of the late 1800's, which was engineered to turn ignorant rural farm children into functioning industrial workers.

It stresses things like repetition, recitation, strict unquestioning obedience, showing up on time, leaving on time, eating on time, standing in lines, sitting in assigned positions, going through an assembly line of grades indifferent to each child's abilities, reading and following basic instructions, etc.

It is a system expressly designed to remove the instincts for discovery, independence, self-driven growth, etc.

"The Underground History of American Education" is a good book on the subject:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0945700040/ref=cm_cr_othr_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

I also strongly recommend Lockhart's Lament:

http://www.maa.org/sites/default/files/pdf/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf

u/kanuk876 · 10 pointsr/MensRights

I disagree.

Most people's notion of "improving" involves their intellectual brain doubling-down on denial and oppression of their natural, animal brain. And this leads to dysfunction, not improvement.

For example...

> if people were to just "be themselves", they'd never improve.

curiosity is a human trait. Ever hear of it? It leads to things like space missions to the moon.

For a better discussion of what I'm talking about, see "Summerhill School" by Neill. Takeaway from Neill's experience: if you provide children with healthy access to psychologically healthy adults, and otherwise leave them the fuck alone, they turn out fantastic. Likewise, if you abuse them horribly improve them since preschool, they turn out all fucked up. Hence the society we see around us.

u/aleifur · 10 pointsr/AskReddit

Not a high schooler anymore but read Dumbing us down by John Taylor Gatto (a multiple winner of "Teacher of the year" for NY city and one time winner of "Teacher of the year" for NY state).

u/Tobikens · 9 pointsr/insaneparents

I said that I don’t have income until my job starts, that I can’t buy groceries without money from my mother, that I am following the conditions we set. Here’s a link to a book to teach you how to read.


Learn to Read Activity Book: 101 Fun Lessons to Teach Your Child to Read https://www.amazon.com/dp/1939754526/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_1mV1DbPF456TP

u/JennyJones111 · 8 pointsr/BreadTube

For one, Zeitgeist was an art piece he did as a social experiment in his mid 20s. Joseph never cared about "conspiracies" at all, if people took 5 seconds to study his work over the past 10 years. He is also an artist at heart.

His AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/6414g3/i_am_peter_joseph_author_of_the_new_human_rights/

--First Book:https://www.amazon.com/Zeitgeist-Movement-Defined-Realizing-Thought/dp/1495303195

"One of the achievements of this book is its ability to find research-based connections between seemingly unrelated social and economic conditions. Without becoming repetitive or dull, each essay is able to shed light on specific issues in a way that is neither too academic nor too informal. Powerful quotes are used at the beginning of chapters, research is clearly footnoted throughout, and the language—albeit at times somewhat technical and term-heavy—does well to give a picture of how one social problem influences the next, and how one scientific advancement could, if accepted and adopted into society properly, change the way all humans interact with the environment that surrounds them." -Review by Kenny Jakubas

--Second Book:https://www.amazon.com/New-Human-Rights-Movement-Reinventing/dp/1942952651

"This book is a fascinating read, and a vitally important one for anyone who is tired of the status quo, seeks to understand why it is so entrenched, and wants to do something about it."New York Journal of Books"

Peter Joseph is one of the great visionaries of our time. If there's a beautiful future―and I think there will be―then his fingerprints will be all over it."―Marianne Williamson, #1 New York Times bestselling author"Since 9/11, security took over and retired human rights into a small closet. We need to get back to the issue of rights for all. Hopefully this important work will draw us closer to that reality and promise. Without economic realignment with nature to secure our habitat, along with conquering the sociological roots of fragmentation and bigotry, the human family is in peril."―Jack Healey,Head of Human Rights Action Center

"One of this generation's greatest visionaries delivers a startling exposé about the violent oppression that defines our economic order, while issuing an urgent call for global activism to unite to change it. Amidst a deepening crisis of capitalism and inequality, coupled with an intensifying assault by the Empire's elite, The New Human Rights Movement provides a crucial roadmap for the movement toward the next system."***–***Abby Martin, host of The Empire Files

--2008 follow up Zeitgeist when he showed his true colors to focus on economics:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewGMBOB4Gg

--2011 seminal work "Zeitgeist Moving Forward"https://youtu.be/4Z9WVZddH9w

--His Lecture playlist. Brilliant:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV9KzChRGz7KEBhw20ZkipLU7BgLoVAxG

You can follow him on Twitter. DO IT!@zeitgeistfilm

u/quantum-mechanic · 7 pointsr/TrueReddit

(number of people with "bad" jobs) >>> (number of people with "good" jobs)

This is what the public ed system should be doing. Its not a secret.

http://www.amazon.com/Underground-History-American-Education-Investigation/dp/0945700040/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1395705212&sr=8-2&keywords=public+education+system+john+taylor+gatto

u/mortfeinberg · 7 pointsr/politics

>> Have a source for how they 'perform worse'? By what metric are you measuring performance? The guy you were replying to wasn't saying that the education an average child receives was the best, but that the best education in the world that money can buy is in the US.

And that's absurd. You can't have an education system that only serves the privileged few, education is a god damn human right and does nothing but improve this country.


>> Citation needed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/15/education/15report.html

Private schools don't even outperform public schools in America when you account for factors.

https://www.amazon.com/Public-School-Advantage-Schools-Outperform/dp/022608891X

u/Rothbardgroupie · 7 pointsr/Anarcho_Capitalism

Here's my 2 cents on the subject. First, I'd give up on the idea of debating. Most of the debating I see is nothing more than verbal warfare--how productive is that? Well, it probably depends on what your objectives are. Are you out to belittle people and make yourself feel better? Than verbal warfare is the way to go. Are you out to improve knowledge or discover truth? Then debating probably isn't the route to take. Whatever, I'd establish the objective upfront. I'd recommend simply asking questions and providing sources.

So what are some questions involved in the spanking subject?

  1. What are the parents goals?
  2. Do the methods applied meet the desired goals?
  3. What is the self-ownership status of a child?
  4. When does a child gain full agency?

  5. Goals will vary by parent, but shouldn't this question be asked every time the subject comes up? Most parents will answer with goals like happy, productive, independent, socially skilled, able to think critically, whatever. I doubt many parents will say out lound that they want obedience, silence, blind acceptance of authority, shyness, inability to bond, addictive behavior, a poor relationship with their parents as adults, approach-avoidance behavior, depression, divorce, etc. The point is, the question needs to be asked, and the answer must frame the response.

  6. Do the methods applied meet the desired goals? Now would be an excellent time to provide links and sources. There is a wealth of information available on the effectiveness and consequences of different parenting techniques. Read the sources, compare results to the desired goals, make your decision. No emotional and verbal warfare required.

  7. What is the self-ownership status of a child? I've yet to see a complete theory or philosophy on this subject. I'd recommend saying you don't know or labeling all proposals as a "working theory" to diffuse all the negative reactions you're likely to get on this emotional subject. Personally I think parents should have a trustee relationship with their children, and that a child's request to leave a household should be honored as soon as he can make it. I have no idea how to put that in an argument but suspect it would involve knowledge of cognitive development.

  8. When does a child gain full agency? Well, first you have the whole can one own oneself debate. Then you'd have to argue when that occurs, if it does. I again lean towards the trustee relationship and gradual development of agency.

    Here's sources for those interested in studying the issue instead of yelling at each other:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbiq2-ukfhM

    http://www.alfiekohn.org/index.php

    http://www.amazon.com/Unconditional-Parenting-Moving-Rewards-Punishments/dp/0743487486/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338338284&sr=8-1

    http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Discipline-Compliance-Alfie-Kohn/dp/1416604723/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1338338349&sr=1-1

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_17?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=punished+by+rewards+by+alfie+kohn&sprefix=punished+by+rewar%2Cstripbooks%2C256

    http://www.amazon.com/No-Contest-Case-Against-Competition/dp/0395631254/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1338338440&sr=1-2

    http://nospank.net/

    http://www.rie.org/

    http://www.wholechild.org/vision/documents/TheEffectsOfImprovingCaregivingOnEarlyDevelopment.pdf

    http://www.echoparenting.org/

    http://www.becomingtheparent.com/all/hp.html

    http://drgabormate.com/

    http://www.committedparent.com/

    http://www.janetlansbury.com/

    http://www.regardingbaby.org/

    http://www.eileensclasses.com/

    http://www.mindfulparentingnyc.com/Mindful_Parenting/Welcome.html

    http://www.riemiami.com/


    http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Parent-Caring-Infants-Respect/dp/1892560062/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1338339719&sr=1-1

    http://www.amazon.com/Your-Self-Confident-Baby-Encourage-Abilities/dp/1118158792/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1338339719&sr=1-3

    http://www.amazon.com/The-RIE-Manual/dp/1892560003/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294253451&sr=1-1

    http://www.amazon.com/Blessing-Skinned-Knee-Teachings-Self-Reliant/dp/1416593063/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1298050770&sr=8-1

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ruth+anne+hammond&x=0&y=0

    http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Parent-You-Want-Sourcebook/dp/0553067508/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1294253521&sr=1-1

    http://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Life-Toddler-Alicia-Lieberman/dp/0028740173/ref=pd_sim_b_2

    http://www.amazon.com/Theories-Attachment-Introduction-Ainsworth-Brazelton/dp/1933653388/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1298051329&sr=8-10

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XR2CGU/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1C1SJ1BR2T4ADEN9VMJM&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

    http://www.amazon.com/Unfolding-Infants-Natural-Gross-Development/dp/1892560070/ref=pd_sim_b_1

    http://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot/videos?query=parenting

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyNQFG7C8JM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjxXuDYdBzY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRfflggBg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1GJsCa_4G8
u/mamamor · 6 pointsr/AskHistorians

I apologize as this is not a historical analysis of the education system. However, I believe the assertion, "The US school system was designed to churn out factory workers," is most likely referencing John Gatto's The Underground History of American Education. If I recall correctly (and it has been a long while), Gatto looks at the Prussian systems, as well as the relationships between the Indian and British school systems. I have not seen Gatto referenced in conversations about the historical development of the US education system, however; his arguments seem to be a part of a conversation about the state of contemporary education, concerns about standardized testing versus ingenuity, etc. To be sure, Gatto tries to develop a historical explanation for the contemporary issues in education, but I have not seen how his work fits in to a broader historical narrative, which poses problems for the viability of his conclusions, I think. Similar arguments about education include [Ken Robinson's Ted Talk] (http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html) on Creativity, for example, which are part of a more current discourse regarding education philosophies like unschooling (in Gatto's case) and inquiry-based programs like Montessori, Reggio Emilia, etc.

u/Gorbama · 6 pointsr/reddit.com

This is kind of interesting. You're obviously being very sarcastic but, in your sarcasm, you made a bunch of good suggestions.

> We care for a year or so, and then we give up.

I almost never write anything by hand. I can, there's just no need. How is the time I spent learning to write things by hand anything other than a waste? With the increasing pervasiveness of computers and the advent of real, working voice recognition (Dragon Naturally Speaking rocks!), handwriting is going to become even more unnecessary in the future.

> My kids hates homework, and doesn't like school. No more homework!

Read Alfie Kohn's Homework Myth to see why we should get rid of homework.

> English has hard-to-spell words that aren't spelled like they sound. Umm, don't worry about spelling.

English spelling is ridiculous. What a god damn waste of time. Why shouldn't we improve the language so it's easier to spell stuff? I think one of the biggest current flaws with English (and maybe languages in general) is that we try to hold them static. We should regularly and systematically clean up the language and simplify spelling.

> It's just that parents aren't able to deal with the kid's hate, so they figure the system must be wrong if the kid hates it this much, so stop the system!

The system is stupid, broken and produces terrible results. Anyone who doesn't want to stop or change the system isn't thinking it through.

u/grrumblebee · 5 pointsr/changemyview

Your focus on detention is arbitrary. It's like saying it's unfair that hostages don't have access to pizza. Maybe, but the whole state of being-a-hostage is unfair. Instead of obsessing about their lack of pepperoni and mushrooms, why not, instead, focus on the actual problem?

  • We force children to go to school.
  • We force children to study specific subjects at school.
  • We force children to do homework after school.
  • We stigmatize them if they fail at school.
  • We use school grades as one metric of mental health.
  • In most schools, we force children to be subject to archaic. pedagogical methods--once that have been proven to be ineffective.
  • And, yes, we force children who have (in my view) naturally bucked against this system, to stay in school longer than kids who accept it.
  • In most schools, children learn very little, especially given the amount of time the spend there.
  • In many cases (e.g. when forced to read Shakespeare), they often develop a lifelong hatred of the subject.
  • Many children spend years in school being bullied, mocked, and ostracized.
  • Throughout this time, they're repeatedly told all this is "good for them," and, in the end, like serial abusers, they inflict in on their own kids, telling them it's good for them.

    All of this stuff has been studied for decades. We know that most schools are run horribly, according to unsound educational principals. But that never changes.

    When psychologists or neuroscientists discover something about learning or education, it takes years or decades to affect classroom practices, if it ever does.

    Schools aren't generally affected by Science. Instead, they are buffeted by politics and held fast by tradition.

    See

  • Wounded By School

  • Punished by Rewards: The Trouble with Gold Stars, Incentive Plans, A's, Praise, and Other Bribes

  • The Homework Myth: Why Our Kids Get Too Much of a Bad Thing

  • video: The 3 Most Basic Needs of Children & Why Schools Fail

  • Summerhill School: A New View of Childhood

  • [A Mathematician's Lament (PDF)] (https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf); longer book version: A Mathematician's Lament: How School Cheats Us Out of Our Most Fascinating and Imaginative Art Form

  • Ken Robinson's TED talk: Do Schools kill creativity?

  • How Children Fail

  • Unschooling

  • Why do we get frustrated when learning something? (written by me)

    I am skeptical that I will CYV, even though I believe that this is the best argument against it--not your view that detention is wrong, but that it's not even worth talking about. Sure, detention is a bad thing--but not the worst thing--about a horrible, corrupt, abusive system.

    I'm skeptical, because the system is so deeply entrenched in our culture. And the most people can do is argue about small tweaks: whether we should use this textbook or that, the length of Summer break, the size of classrooms, etc.

    The debate about Creationism vs Evolution in schools is a good example. If the Evolution folks (or the Creationist folks) win, they will pat themselves on the back and walk away happy, never glancing back and noticing that the same shoddy educational methods are being used now as before--with just one correction.

    Yes, Dominoes is bad pizza. It won't suddenly become good pizza if you put it in a less-ugly box. I agree that the box is ugly, but why focus on it? It's not the core problem.
u/genida · 5 pointsr/reddit.com

Whether or not you're going all the way to homeschooling or finding alternatives such as Montessori or Waldorf, here's my two cents as well. Read up on it. I'll probably come off as bit of an ass, but it's your kid, what more relevance do you need to find and buy lots and lots of manuals(so to speak). Kids're pretty complicated, or so I've heard.

I'm not an expert, but I have a few titles I'll promptly lay on whatever friend of mine starts to procreate first. In my opinion these aren't 'crazy' books, and I sincerely hope you'll take them seriously.

How Children Learn

How Children Fail

Punished By Rewards

The Homework Myth

John Taylor Gatto has written some stuff as well, but Google can find that for you. Read and read more. I couldn't begin to describe my time in the famous twelve years without plenty of cussing.

Take an interest, is my advice.

u/Cypher_Ace · 5 pointsr/childfree

You are certainly correct that the quality of public education can vary widely, however no matter how well performing a public school may be they all suffer from the same fundamental issues. As references to this brief diatribe I will point you to (as in my other comment) the school sucks project, a book called Illiberal Reformers which details the frightening truth of the early progressive movement, and finally The Underground History of American Education which is a book by a decorated public school teacher who had a terrifying realization after a his long career. Note, that nothing I say here is an attack on any educators or teachers who might read this. I truly believe most teachers and the like get into the field for the right reasons, but the structure that they are faced with is the problem.

The problem with public school in the US, and many other countries (especially Western), is that learning/education is really only a secondary purpose. It is at all times subordinate, and therefore often undermined, to further the actual goal of creating a subordinate citizenry. The early progressives (Who as an aside were just awful, for example it was they who inspired the Nazis to eugenics. Once you go down this rabbit hole you'll never look at Woodrow Wilson the same again.) who championed the introduction of the American public school system were quite plain about where the idea for the modern public school came from. Namely, the Prussian aristocracy who inflicted it upon the populace in the 1800s for the express purpose of making them easy to rule. They made no attempt to hide this fact. The early progressives were somewhat more cautious in their language, dressing up the idea in Utopian language but their intentions are pretty clear if you go look at the academic papers and such they published at the times (which the two books I linked do).

So as to not get too long winded, let me just as a few rhetorical questions. How do you forcefully educate someone? How do you force someone to learn? How does mandating children show up at a building on pain of confinement for them or their parents further either of those goals? The Athenians are turning in their graves. The system forces children to show up at an arbitrary time, irrespective of their individual circumstances, and divides them into arbitrary groups. They are then forced to respect and defer to a person (i.e. Teacher/Adminstrators) arbitrarily. They have to seek permission to perform normal bodily functions (i.e. ask to use the restroom), trained not unlike you would a dog (not that I have anything against dogs!). They are trained to shuffle from one room to another at the sound of a bell, and to fill out meaningless paperwork and to perform meaningless tasks within an arbitrary involuntary hierarchy. It erodes at the mind and soul, creating an obedient populace that is used to dealing with a convoluted bureaucracy, and sometimes you learn something. To top it off, the curriculum is controlled via a political apparatus subject to all the corruption that accompanies politics. You can school, indoctrinate, and train people, but you can't force them to think critically and to really learn.

u/IMovedYourCheese · 4 pointsr/programming

Wow these things look fancy now (and expensive)! I remember when they were just introduced when I was at UIUC back in the day.

u/TheDude1985 · 4 pointsr/BasicIncome

I think the closest we have are Chris Hedges, Cornell West, David Graeber...

Or, maybe we're in a new paradigm were you don't have leaders - we have movements. Occupy. The Zeitgeist Movement just put out a new book that is amazing:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Zeitgeist-Movement-Defined-Realizing/dp/1495303195

u/lukamu · 4 pointsr/Teachers

Yes. I've been there, and I've gotten out of it, too. The anxiety comes from having more things on your to-do list than you have time to get done, and not knowing if it's even possible to do them. Check out the book The Together Teacher for the answer to your anxiety. You might not be able to get everything done, but you can sure become a lot more organized and effective, which means that you can honestly say, "There was just too much. I worked hard and it didn't all get done, but that's okay," and feel good about it. I started using it over winter break last year and it has literally changed my life from where you are at to where I am at now. At least that helps with the "feeling swamped" bit.

u/duckiesuit · 4 pointsr/Teachers

I had the same problem, but after five years I'm an ol' battleaxe! You MUST get this under control or you won't enjoy your career, and the good students will suffer in your class. But do not worry, there is hope!

Here are a couple of the books that helped me develop me "teacher persona."

http://www.amazon.com/Reluctant-Disciplinarian-Management-Eventually-Successful/dp/1936162156

http://www.amazon.com/Setting-Limits-Classroom-3rd-Edition/dp/0307591727

Beyond this: Learn their names. Call them by name when they have their phones out or they are talking while you are talking. Kick them out into the hall if you need to, then have a non-antagonistic chat with them. They are different when they are with you one-on-one. Develop relationships. Ask them about what movie they saw that weekend. Tell them stories about your home life. Put the hammer down if you have to -- call home, referrals, etc. -- but those are a last resort.

u/orangebeauty · 4 pointsr/Teachers

Congratulations! ! I'm a second grade teacher and absolutely love the age. They're old enough to learn to work independently but they're still young enough to engage in imaginary play. So much fun!

I would highly recommend getting this book to help you start off your year. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1892989816/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1466540252&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=the+first+six+weeks+of+school&dpPl=1&dpID=41CWPyLbqNL&ref=plSrch Really helpful in pacing and teaching routines. Also, even if you don't use the Daily 5 structure, I would highly recommend reading the book to give you an idea of how to teach routines for independent work and to build stamina. Those strategies for teaching routines really helped me establish a routine for independence that lasted all year. Slow down in the beginning so you can cruise the rest of the year. You'll also need to get really comfortable with beginning and transitional reading stages. I'd recommend On Solid Ground by Sharon Taberski and Jennifer Serravello's The Reading Strategies book.

You are going to love this age group! ! Best of luck and feel free to pm me if you have any questions!

u/HonestAbeRinkin · 3 pointsr/askscience

There are a few resources for you:

Philosophy for Kids

Junior Skeptic Magazine

I have an 11-year old who is very interested in discussing philosophy, and sometimes talking and learning together is the best approach. There's not as much of a 'right answer' as it is a process of inquiry. Also, if it fits with your worldview, McGowan's book on Parenting Beyond Belief is also really helpful. Good luck and enjoy the ride!

u/[deleted] · 3 pointsr/PoliticalDiscussion

Jesus, ever hear of a paragraph?

>This is similar to the voucher debate where good schools get better and bad schools get worse only now smart kids get better teachers and under-performing students get little and less.

Why shouldn't smart, high achieving kids get the best teachers? Do you deny that all kids learn at different rates?

>The second flaw in the classical capitalistic economic model as it applies to teachers is that Education is a fundamentally Socialist.

No Comrade, it isn't. First, education is a private good, not a public good. Second, the overwhelming majority of what we learn is done on our own. Consider the incredible success of the Khan Academy, for an example of individuals doing it for themselves. There is absolutely nothing "fundamentally socialist" about education.

Oh, and read this book.

E: added links

u/nolsen · 3 pointsr/DebateAChristian

>What craig does have though, and you still seem to lack, is the basic understanding that he cannot under any circumstances allow for the possibility that the universe could have begun without a cause.

Well, there is this where he writes:

>Notice that they equate knowledge with certainty. If you’re not certain that some proposition p is true, then you do not know that p. But what justification is there for that assumption? I know that I have a head, for example. But I could be a brain in a vat of chemicals being stimulated by a mad scientist to think that I have a body. Does this mere possibility imply that I do not know that I have a head?

There is also the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy article on Certainty that says,

>One of the primary motivations for allowing kinds of knowledge less than certainty is the widespread sense that skeptical arguments are successful in showing that we rarely or never have beliefs that are certain (see Unger 1975 for this kind of skeptical argument) but do not succeed in showing that our beliefs are altogether without epistemic worth

Or you could, you know, actually read a book.

You're just wrong, and no matter how snarky you are you will still be wrong. So you can either admit it, or you can continue to be a part of the most dogmatic religion around - New Atheism. Let me guess, you choose New Atheism? Big surprise...

u/n_55 · 3 pointsr/neoliberal

>How would you define a good vs bad school, or is it just about movement of students?

>How would you assess if a teacher is good or bad?

The parents decide, just like they do for everything else for their kids.

>Should private and/or charter schools be required to go through some sort of process to certify their merit before being allowed to enter the educational system

No.

>Presumably you would support private and/or charter schools, how would you make access to them affordable for poor students?

Every kid gets a voucher, to be used at any school they wish.

>being pointed to a good resource would be appreciated.

This book.

And this book.

But to be honest, imo, the best way to educate your own kids is this way.

u/annjellicle · 3 pointsr/atheism

I just bought a book called Teaching as a Subversive Activity at a thrift store. I am in the middle of reading it.
Great read so far. It's right up the guy in the article's alley.

u/chinadonkey · 3 pointsr/TEFL

According to the Thailand FAQ you only need a bachelor's degree to teach in Thailand, so if you can't afford a CELTA or CertTESOL I'd skip getting another cert. Unless that quid's burning a hole in your pocket. Those online certs are worth about as much as the paper they're printed on.

CELTA courses use this book by Jeremy Harmer and this one by Jim Scrivener as introductory textbooks to TEFL. They will teach you more about teaching than the course you linked at a fraction of the cost.

u/wondrwomyn · 2 pointsr/exmormon

if she still wants to stay within christianity, I suggest UU or TEC (the episcopal church) both are fairly progressive non-indoctrinational churches. We go to TEC, and my girls love it the two oldest got to go to their first sleep away camp and they loved it, they are even open to the fact that even tho I am still Christian, my spirituality is more closely align with agnostic theist and my hubby is Secular humanist/agnostic atheist. but as with everything it would also depend on your parish, not all churches are made equal even within a particular denomination. also I suggest helping her develop her own critical thinking. have her read [the magic of reality] (http://www.amazon.com/The-Magic-Reality-Whats-Really/dp/1451675046/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406185178&sr=8-1&keywords=magic+of+reality), and [Philosophy for kids] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1882664701/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) also read [Raising Freethinkers] (http://www.amazon.com/Raising-Freethinkers-Practical-Parenting-Beyond/dp/0814410960/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1406185579&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=raisin+free+thinkers).. Edited: for grammar and to add one more book suggestion..

u/Matt_Berkowitz · 2 pointsr/skeptic

We really appreciate criticisms, we really do. But thoughtful, substantive ones. Branding something with labels such as "new age" and "hippie" is essentially meaningless and the opposite of skeptical analysis. If you want to engage a topic, why not actually address claims rather than paint in broad brush strokes and loaded dismissive jargon.

By the way, the first Z-film has nothing to do with TZM (and I don't endorse it, by the way), and the second film, in retrospect, was probably not presented optimally. TZM has come a long way since then. The third film is a very academic work, and the new "TZM Defined" book is a meticulous work: http://www.amazon.com/The-Zeitgeist-Movement-Defined-Realizing/dp/1495303195 and available for free on TZM's main website.

u/sstik · 2 pointsr/homeschool

I am reading this book at it is GREAT. I highly recommend it.

http://www.amazon.com/Project-Based-Homeschooling-Mentoring-Self-Directed-Learners/dp/1475239068/

Your child will get SOO much more out of this approach and you can still do more formal curriculum if you want.

u/darknessvisible · 2 pointsr/IWantToLearn

You could try posting this to r/TEFL as well. If you're going for a qualification then CELTA is your best bet and there's a CELTA trainee book that might be useful. Some schools also recommend Learning Teaching by Jim Scrivener.

u/LeaningMajority · 2 pointsr/education

Not really surprising, is it?

This reminds me of the facts behind homework. The author of The Homework Myth claims that with the sole exception of high school math, the many, many studies on the topic find that homework is detrimental (or at best has no clear positive correlation) to actual student knowledge.

But our protestant work ethic and mindless football-like mindsets about toughness, work and punishment has us ignoring facts...

u/coned88 · 2 pointsr/self

Though if we look at what concentration of the population buts what books we will see that these people can read but they are still dopes. During the civil war nearly everybody in the country minus black slaves bought books by Paine, while today rarely anybody buys books that in depth.


In fact Gatto's book Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling even goes as far as saying people during the civil war were more literate than today.


I have look for citations and have not been impressed with anything. Some say people are smarter today other say they are not and standards have just been lowered.

u/Mithryn · 2 pointsr/exmormon

let me see if I can explain. The public school system in America was not designed to help literacy for poor immigrants, although that would be noble. And it wasn't really designed to make us #1 in math or whatever (it would be failing at both of those goals).

It was designed to break children from their parent's culture and to help them integrate into the melting pot.
http://www.amazon.com/Dumbing-Down-Curriculum-Compulsory-Schooling/dp/086571231X

Any number of videos by John Grotto on this. He's kinda crazy on a lot of things, but his education experience is quite sound.

My wife firmly believes the school system is corrupt. I can see how the church, under David O. McKay (or at least when he was an apostle) incorporated Correlation and the public school system to revise how kids are taught in order to pull them away from previous religions and cultures in order to assimilate them into the new culture of the church.

We talk about it as brainwashing, but a lot of it is culture-washing. You're no longer a mexican/Brazillian/swede/russian. You're a Mormon, here is your jell-o salad and please bring funeral potatoes.

Your parents might pray to the previous God once in a while (such as the pentacostal who still speaks in tongues once in a while, even after having been to the temple) but the kids... they know better. They roll their eyes at their parents and try to be more righteous, more godly, like they're supposed to be.

Does that make sense?

u/bonjidogen · 2 pointsr/LearnJapanese

> First Japanese Reader Japanese Graded Reader

I believe they're referencing a single work with this whole name, which would be this:

https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Reader-Beginner-Language-Graded-ebook/dp/B01NBPIPMY

u/mjolnir76 · 2 pointsr/Parenting

A couple of books worth checking out, both by Alfie Kohn:

Punished by Rewards

Beyond Discipline

u/mdlink16 · 2 pointsr/Teachers

Another great resource is "The First Six Weeks of School." https://www.amazon.com/First-Six-Weeks-School/dp/1892989816/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501256208&sr=8-1&keywords=the+first+six+weeks+of+school
They help you get your classroom up and running right away. The first grade teachers in my building swear by the routines section.

u/H_Floyd · 2 pointsr/Teachers

>Therefore, I'm looking for advice on how and when to introduce the class routines and procedures.

Day 1, and continue for the next several weeks. Jointly develop and agree upon classroom expectations with the kids. Have them sign a "Classroom Contract" with the rules you came up with together. Display it in the room and keep it up.

>I'm guessing because they are so young and unable to read, it is better to repeat expectations / procedures often

Yes. Very often. But do more than repeat; model. Then have kids model. Comment on how they model. Ask other kids to comment on the modeling their peers do ("what do you notice ____ doing?")

>Should I make "personal anchor charts" for each student explaining these procedures

That's not really necessary if you have a large anchor chart for the whole class. An anchor chart is essential, but individual ones are not (with a few exceptions--usually kids with significant disabilities).

Now I've got some questions for you:

  1. So this will be French immersion? 100% French? Or part French part English? Do you share the kids with other teachers?

  2. Since you're starting the year, will you be the one setting up the classroom?

  3. How many on your roster?

  4. When is the first day? Is it a full day or half day?

  5. Do you have this or have access to it? It's the best for those critical first weeks.

  6. Who else is on your first grade team?
u/azamayid · 2 pointsr/AdviceAnimals

Absolutely - history has shown us that public education can be used in exactly that way, in Nazi Germany and the former USSR. I think in a lot of ways those specific programs you mention are detrimental since they do more to just enforce meaningless metrics and quotas than they do to cultivate thinking young minds.

We need smarter teachers. And you know what: you get what you pay for. Teachers are so underpaid but they alone are going to be responsible for the quality of future generations, so we're only cheating ourselves. But if we were serious about our future as a society, we'd have better paid teachers, and more of them, and they would be free to be independent and come up with innovative lessons instead of teaching off rubrics which might not work for every class and child. This book made me want to be a teacher.

u/redog · 2 pointsr/science

My views of American school is that privatization hurts the current 'public' system. It further separates the classes, but that is what the public system was designed to do. It was scientifically designed to create malleable workers for the industrial revolution. The system strives to keep people dumb. But don't believe me, believe a teacher

I think the responsibility needs to get back into the home. I believe a better system would be to let parents decide when their children are schooled and where. More public like a library. Where I am from being dumb is almost a badge of honor.

Also, we should privatize sports programs. Take them out of the "public" institutions we call schools. They seem to be quite a distraction and lend more to being popular then becoming a self learner.

u/well_uh_yeah · 2 pointsr/Teachers

I'm in a different situation from you, but I also am not very mean. When I was starting out I read this book and it helped me out.

When I was student teaching I was in a district with half urban, half suburban kids because of weird districting. My cooperating teacher explained to me that while I grew up in an area where kids understood indirect directions, like, "Now, if everyone would get out their notebooks..." my students were from a community that was used to more direct directions, like, "In 30 seconds I want to see everyone with their notebooks on their desks. No exceptions." It made a huge difference for me in that situation.

I teach in an affluent district. So anything I offer here might not work:

I'm a good story teller and I've learned to use that to my advantage (it was initially a disadvantage because I like telling stories and was getting off topic too often). I also found, over time, that I just wasn't planning enough to do and was stretching things out to long. Now I've got my pacing down much better and the difference is huge.

Anyway, I'm not sure anything I say could be of much use because I have no experience in your circumstances.

u/trenchgold · 2 pointsr/Teachers

The Underground Guide to Classroom Management is good. Short but lots of good tips.

u/Cranberry_Slurpee · 2 pointsr/education

> Do you or your professor have any research that supports this claim?

The professor did not cite studies in her discussion, no. As to myself, I have no studies, just years of experience teaching in high schools and colleges.

> The largest determinant in student learning is student practice and practice is not always fun, but it is beneficial.

Agreed -- up to the point to where the student knows the topic. After that, it's simply drudgery and an exercise in following orders. Since you're interested in research, Alfie Kohn analyzed a lot of research on this topic in his 2007 book, "The Homework Myth".

u/progressivemoron · 1 pointr/politics

>but it's not like our government controls the means for food production and I hope they never do.

My main point is that government bureaucrats are faced with the same backwards incentives regardless if they are producing food or providing the service of education. Removing competition means no accountability and no pressure to increase quality or reduce costs.

>What is your stance, how would you like our educational system to operate?

I'd like it to operate with zero state involvement.

u/carrierfive · 1 pointr/Showerthoughts

Okay, it's ten years old (2007) but the research and referenced studies/data in the book still holds up very well.

So I'll just drop this here: The Homework Myth: Why Our Kids Get Too Much of a Bad Thing.

u/WASDx · 1 pointr/technology

The Venus Project and /r/TZM is proposing a new kind of economic system where automation enables us to not need jobs anymore. Here is a book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Zeitgeist-Movement-Defined-Realizing/dp/1495303195

u/ducksandcows · 1 pointr/Teachers

In order to help yourself stay sane: The Together Teacher by Maia Heyck-Merlin. SO MANY tips and tricks about how to make the most of your time. I didn't read it till my third year teaching and I wish I had read it sooner.

u/TeacherQuestion10000 · 1 pointr/Teachers

The main reason I'm interested in the MS credential is to teach middle school core. I already have the book by Zarillo and I've used Teacherstestprep which has helped me in the past.

u/dgodon · 1 pointr/education

This is one of several attacks on the finding that public schools outperform private schools when student SES is accounted for, that was documented in the book The Public School Advantage. These attacks do nothing to dis-prove the findings of this book. One of the authors of the book provides a thorough rebuttal to the attacks here. So, no private schools don't beat public schools.

u/iamwhoiamnow · 1 pointr/homeschool

To be honest this doesn't sound like the best homeschool environment. But: Many (if not most) homeschoolers of kids who were pulled out of public school take a sort of "detox" period when the kids are taken out of school. This kind of gives them a chance to relax, put the public school environment really on the back burner, and kind of reset to get ready for homeschooling.

The kinds of programs you are describing are basically "school at home." This is fine for many kids. For a kid who obviously hates school and "learning" as he perceives it (i.e. what he has been forced to do at school all his life,) this is probably not a good option.

There are as many different ways and methods of homeschooling as there are families who homeschool and that's really what is so exciting and effective about it. Now is a great time to start exploring these methods WITH HIM. He is certainly old enough to have a vote in how he learns.

For a kid who is resistant to book learning I would read up about unschooling, free range learning, project-based homeschooling. It goes by different names but the basic premise is the same: people learn best when they are interested and engaged and making their own choices about what to learn and when.

He needs to start taking an inventory of his interests and abilities. Is he mechanically inclined? He obviously doesn't like to read but what about math? Video games? Does he want to learn how to code? What about animals? He could become involved in a program that trains dogs to become service dogs for people with various disabilities. The possibilities are really endless and bounded only by his own imagination.

This could be a very exciting time for your brother (and the rest of your family); fighting about sitting in front of a computer all day and reading about the civil war or whatever is not going to help anything. He has decided he doesn't like to learn. This is a potential tragedy but he is still young and there is still time to change his mind.

It is important that when you begin his interest inventory (I would suggest doing this as a family) that there are no disparaging comments made. If he says he is interested in video games, it goes onto the list. If he loves to play guitar, it goes onto the list. There are plenty of ways to work those interests into valuable projects, you just have to get creative.

On another note: he is old enough to start learning about trades; if he thinks that's where his interests may be. You could track down electricians, plumbers, any kind of tradesman in your area and I'm sure any one of them would be thrilled to explain their career and necessary education to a 14-year old.

It looks like you live in Texas? I am also in TX and the state has some of the most liberal homeschool laws in the nation. Unschooling is definitely possible here.

I noticed that you said your parents are high school dropouts and that they can't teach your brother. This does not have to be a barrier to his education; at the high school level most parents aren't actually "teaching," anyway, they are acting more as mentors. It is important that they are on board in supporting his projects and interests but they don't have to teach him trigonometry; there are plenty of other ways to go about getting that information when he needs it.

I hope this helps. The most important thing you can do right now is to get him excited about learning something. ANYTHING.

u/violinosecondo · 1 pointr/Teachers

I understand your frustration completely. Before starting my first year of teaching, I set up my room, was told to move to another, and then told to move again. I think I had final confirmation on my room less than a week before the first day and construction held me up from setting up and organizing in a way I felt comfortable with. This stress became a lot of my focus, and I neglected solidifying routines. If you have some solid routines that make your life and your students' lives easier, your room will fall into place to mirror these routines.

Think about your preferences for collecting worksheets, storing materials and books, and for grading. Can you create any temporary or mobile homes (milk crate with hanging folders, bins, furniture on wheels, etc.), that can be moved as you settle in more?

I was given this book during my new teacher orientation. You might find some ideas that resonate with you.

Best of luck!

u/hijodelsol14 · 1 pointr/jhu

In larger (typically STEM) classes, professors will ask multiple choice questions during lecture to gauge understanding, enforce specific concepts, take and enforce attendance, etc. The clicker (i-clicker) is a small remote with buttons that you use to answer these multiple choice questions.

iClicker2 student remote https://www.amazon.com/dp/1498603041/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IyzhDb866GNTQ

The last price is ~$50 but you shouldn't pay more than $20 for one.

u/Alarming_Bite · 1 pointr/ucf

Hey thanks for replying. Yes it's the iclicker2. Looks like this: https://www.amazon.com/iClicker2-student-remote-iClicker/dp/1498603041

u/mikesteane · 1 pointr/MensRights

I also recommend John Taylor Gatto's The Underground History of American Education in which he argues that the apparent failures of modern education are in fact successes: the system was deliberately set up to prevent learning.

Availble online here: mhkeehn.tripod.com/ughoae.pdf but I also recommend the hard copy available from Amazo here: http://www.amazon.com/Underground-History-American-Education-Investigation/dp/0945700040

u/Press_F5_Comrade · 1 pointr/philosophy

It's an integral part of my high school sociology class, especially in the few couple weeks. We focus on classical perspective, Plato's allegory, etc. I am currently using Dr. Seuss, as well as Aesop's Fables and will migrate into this as they get older. Right now we will read a book, and I will ask probing thought question and Socratic method afterwards. The benefits I'm seeing thus far are very promising. My 5 YO is doing great with insightful questioning and comments when we discuss other things, and watch movies, etc.

u/TitleLinkHelperBot · 1 pointr/FreeEBOOKS
u/SerenasHairyBalls · 1 pointr/politics

It's a good question, and the honest answer is I don't entirely know. I've only been alive for about thirty years, and most of this occurred long before I was born.

I think I can tell you why, though, and I think the same answer would apply to the question of why leftists dominate other arenas like education.

The power of politics is not who occupies the office. Not in a democracy or in a republic. Every person in power is one election away from losing that power. The only way to build enduring power is to control the culture.

There's a wonderful book I would recommend anybody to read, called The Underground History of American Education which discusses the strategy which I believe is in play: if you control the levers of public consciousness, you passively control that populace.

It would be a bit difficult to believe that our diverse media climate could be coordinated, except that just six corporations collectively control 90% of the American media market. We have the illusion of diverse opinion, but not the reality of it.

u/lskdjflsdk · 1 pointr/Teachers

STUDY THIS BOOK:
http://www.amazon.com/Ready-Revised-RICA-Preparation-Californias/dp/0137008686

Zarrillo.

SERIOUSLY.

Don't mess with quizlet- I found most of the questions/answers to be inaccurate.

Focus on case study examples.

u/donanobis · 1 pointr/Teachers

What book are you using to study? A professor at my school wrote this: http://www.amazon.com/Ready-Revised-RICA-Preparation-Californias/dp/0137008686

I found it really helpful. Our reading classes were structured around it and I passed the RICA no problem.

u/crisscross1985 · 1 pointr/wikipedia


If you are interested in learning about one of the founding fathers A. S. Neill wrote about the school he founded in his book Summerhill School: A New View of Childhood https://www.amazon.com/dp/0312141378/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_YUfuybCMVVWD7

u/magiteker · 1 pointr/todayilearned

There's education, then there is education. The US has yet to unify what it considers to be a nationally accepted curriculum and as such schools have been able to pick and choose subject matter to teach and not teach. If you want to understand what modern education is here is some suggested reading which explains how schools are structured and why they are built the way they are.

u/teachingmyself · 1 pointr/Teachers

I'm having a very similar experience with both my emotional state and the classroom environment.

Most people wouldn't say this, but perhaps your instincts about discipline/punishment are worth listening to. In the short term, for the sake of your sanity, you may need to set them aside, because in my experience, they don't lead to quick fixes, and as you said, a structured environment is important for your students. However, I would posit that structure does not REQUIRE punishment, though that's certainly one way to get there.

I highly recommend these two books: Beyond Discipline and Lost at School. I think you would find them quite validating. Even if you (or any others reading this) are not willing to entirely give up punishment, I believe there is ample evidence out there that there is another way.

Feel free to message me if you are interested in discussing. This is an issue I feel very deeply about, even if I am currently not skilled enough to create the kind of environment I'd like to see.

Best of luck with the rest of your school year!

u/VMChiwas · 1 pointr/mexico

Considerando que la relacion tareas/calidad de educacion es muy debatida y parecen en lo general no tener beneficio para los resultados academicos, suena a un buen negocio y puede considerarse relativamente etico ya que sus clientes no pierden en la calidad de educacion que reciben.

http://rer.sagepub.com/content/76/1/1.abstract

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0738211117/?tag=greatschoolsn-20

u/glorious_failure · 1 pointr/WTF

Read this book, and then consider that it's been going on for generations. Also the culture of immediate gratification. And things...

u/Moriartis · 1 pointr/changemyview

I'm sorry, but the one time I'll agree with a public school teacher when they complain is when they are complaining about teaching to the test.

Are you familiar with the Prussian education model? If you want to research what went wrong with our system, I would recommend reading The Underground History of American Education or, for a quicker version, read an article by the author, called Six-Lesson Schoolteacher.

The problem with our system is almost entirely due to the basis for the system itself, not the teachers. Please let me know if this helps.

u/arthur_figgis · 1 pointr/Teachers

I'd be more than happy to have a PM conversation about particulars if you want, but the one book I credit with really turning me around is Reluctant Disciplinarian by Gary Rubinstein.

The first couple of pages of the book describe how, when he was young, Rubenstein's parents used to harshly reprimand the dog when it shit on the carpet, and how he used to then sneak into the puppy's room when his parents had left to reassure the puppy and make it feel better. The puppy proceeded to continue shitting the carpet for months. I read that and I was like "Oh my God. This is the book."

He's also a Teach For America alumnus who is now a vocal TFA critic, which I love, because I'm both of those as well.

u/Chuhaimaster · 1 pointr/TEFL

Personally, I've never had the chance to take a CELTA course, but I have heard many good things about it. I haven't heard of the other programs you mentioned.

BTW, If you would like to pick up some general TEFL tips in advance of taking a course, I'd recommend investing in a comprehensive text like Learning Teaching.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0230729843/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1393974279&sr=8-1

There's a fair amount of information in the text on lesson planning as well as teaching listening, reading, writing and speaking.

Cheers.

u/fre3k · 0 pointsr/Libertarian

My public school was awesome. Great physics, science, math, computers, language, technology, and history educations. (graduated mid 00's) Ended up in a top university.

Know why? I lived in middle class neighborhood in a rich area of town. Schools are funded largely by local property taxes. Poor places tend to have worse schools. A great example of this is 2 elementary schools in the city of Atlanta: Morningside Elementary School, one of the best schools in the entire state, and Thomasville Park Elementary school, one of the worst in the entire state. They are both part of the Atlanta Public Schools district. One resides in the dilapidated old industrial south part of town. The other resides in the northern, office-based, commercial, and residential part of town. I'm sure I don't need to tell you which is which.

This pattern is repeated across the nation. Poor places have bad schools, well off places have great schools. Given this, do you really think that poor places are going to just grassroots fund their way into great private schools if public schools are taken away?

>You need not ask if your policy feels good, but does it do good. In other words, does it work? Social education doesn't work for the same reason no other bureaucratically managed industries work - they lack proper incentives and controls to innovate and self-manage efficiency.

This just doesn't seem to be true. In the past decade, a bevy of new research has shown that private schools do not actually produce better outcomes. This book is a deep examination of data that shows this. You can find gobs more information out there, including the foot notes and references in that book.

I guess I still don't think the ideas you're proposing are going to educate everyone, though I certainly think we could agree upon the fact that they ARE over-regulated with the endless testing and metricization and focus on memorization rather than teacher certification/trust, reasonable pay, and training students to think and learn problem solving skills.

>Are there asshole parents out there that are going to buy a new car instead of send their kids to school? Sure. But you can't get hung up on this as a reason to make ineffective decisions based on appeals to emotion.

Isn't that what you're doing when you say government schools are producing uneducated people who are destroying the west? "Oh my god, destroying the west? We have to get rid of public schools now!"

> No government welfare program can even hold a candle to the Red Cross

The US Military seems to do a pretty kickass job of being there for disasters that happen across the world.

>The absolute most effective mechanisms for social welfare are private institutions - hands down.

After Reagan gutted the public mental healthcare system (an admittedly primitive system, but one that at least attempted to help the most likely to recover to do so) the only private system to spring up has been those based on exorbitant profit which the majority of Americans cannot afford.

>Why is it you put so much trust in a group of people that has little accountability and no incentives? The market has these - put your trust there.

This seems farcical. Some serious mistakes were made at the founding of the country (and many on the way to now) that prevent us from truly holding our elected officials accountable, including but not limited to: non-enforcement of increased representative count with larger populations, FPTP elections (for some positions), allowance for arbitrary and politically motivated district allocation, and others. In the early 1920's onward, after a pushback against the guilded age corruption from the 1880s to the 1920s, the increased involvement of money in politics, allowed by the justice system, and codified by the judicial branch, has led to our officials becoming beholden to moneyed interests, instead of the people.

I think we could if we make a few changes so that the system is a bit more accountable to us, rather than those with gobs of money - which leads me to...

As for the market - we've seen what happens when the market allows companies to act uninhibited - they attempt to maximize profit at the expense of anything that gets in their way: they permanently contaminate large swathes of land ( here), they pollute water supplies indiscriminately ( [here] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes#Pollution) and (here), they kill people via food for profit (here and here), they kill those that get in their way (here), they poison vast swathes of the world (here). I could go on. So I ask you: what makes you place your trust in opaque capital market entities that pursue profit at all costs rather than the one entity in society that isn't driven entirely by never-ending increase in profit regardless of the consequences?

>Ask yourself honestly, which are you?

Definitely a 1, I'm just trying to get by while leeches like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Ecclestone and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump inherit billions of dollars and don't have to do an honest day's work in their lives to live in the lap of luxury.

Given a more equitable society I would love to do hands on work with children, but it's just not possible if one wants to escape the trap of labor exploitation and one day be able to pursue such works.

u/adiposefin_ · 0 pointsr/NorthCarolina

I'm reading Market Education right now, might be of interest to you

http://www.amazon.com/Market-Education-Unknown-Frontier-Economic/dp/1560004088

u/GrandMa5TR · -3 pointsr/hearthstone

[Let me help you.] (https://www.amazon.com/Learn-Read-Activity-Book-Lessons/dp/1939754526)You're trying to use the same scale to judge a 4 mana and a 10 mana play.

u/DemCrazies · -13 pointsr/politics