Best home audio speakers according to redditors
We found 13,572 Reddit comments discussing the best home audio speakers. We ranked the 1,543 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 13,572 Reddit comments discussing the best home audio speakers. We ranked the 1,543 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
I spent way too much time on this, but let's see how your claim plays out.
2. Akai MPK249 $400
2. Yamaha P71 $415
3. 21.5 inch iMac $1100 (although this is the base model, probably a good estimate)
3. Edifier R1280T Near Field Monitors $99
5. Asus 24" monitor $130x5=$650
4. Logitech G27 I'm going to say around $300, even though Amazon has it listed for nearly $1000. Seems like the MSRP a few years ago was $300-$400.
Add in like $1000 for each desk and $2000 for each computer we don't see (assuming there are two), that gets us to a total of $11,068.
There is a laptop bag stashed on the left side of the frame, so maybe it's a $9000 laptop.
Hey so I hate to shit in on everyone else's opinions, but they're not really recommending the best gear for your dollar. /r/audiophile has a sticky on this exact subject. Basically the lowest end system they are willing to recommend is a pair of Micca MB42s . If you can spring for the 42x's, they are more than worth the 10 extra dollars. You will need an amplifier to drive them. /r/audiophile reccomends the Muse m50, but I can tell you from personal experience, a lepai 2020a+ with a slightly beefier power supply will run them just fine for half the price. These are pretty chunky speakers, but they'll blow any "pc/gaming" speakers out of the water. If you decide you'd like to go for this, I have about 30 feet of speaker wire lying around that I'd be happy to mail to you to save you the 8 bucks or so. Hope this helps, and happy listening!
I like Hornloaded's guide. In this case, it would be these Micca MB42Xs with the LP-2020A+ Lepai amp. These are also recommended by a fellow redditor.
Lastly, a general guide by that same redditor.
For the same money as the sound bar plus the HDMI cable, you could go with this setup which would be miles ahead of that, and also easily upgradeable.
Start with this $150 Pioneer receiver. I have one, it's perfect for a basic receiver.
Then add these $90 Micca L/R front speakers.
Use this $150 Dayton subwoofer, or one of the other sizes depending on your room. I have the smaller SUB-800, it's an excellent small sub, i'd've gone bigger, but my wife put the kibosh on that.
Finally, if you decide to space the bookshelves out the way you should, instead of sitting on the edges of the TV stand, add this $70 Micca center channel speaker for a full 3.1 setup. Actually, even if you don't space them out, get the center. It really helps with dialog, especially if you sit off center.
Total: $460, not including shipping. Buy some inexpensive speaker wire similar to the HDMI cable you ordered, just be sure it's solid copper.
You'll have a full 3.1 setup that would handily beat all but the absolute highest end sound bars for audio quality, and is easily upgradeable. You can move the MB42x front speakers to the rear and upgrade the fronts and center, or simply add another pair for 5.1. You can also easily upgrade the subwoofer or receiver.
In addition, if you have any gaming consoles, plus a blu-ray player, a cable box, and possibly an HTPC, or might add one, the receiver has more HDMI inputs than most tvs, making it the logical choice for the command center of your system.
Edited for clarity, additional info.
Nah man, skip the audiophile subreddit. Way too many conflicting opinions. Check out /r/zeos, it's a guy's personal sub with a bunch of recommendations and guides depending on your price range.
I picked up a pair of these and some speaker wire after looking around there and they're the greatest sounding things ever. Super easy to set up too.
Just going off prices here in Australia. The Logitech's are $129 for the set while those Edifiers are also exactly $129AUD for the set so I think it's a fair comparison.
The Edifers will get down to 75hz while that big clunkly logitech sub will only get a bit further down to 55hz. It also doesn't say where it starts rolling off, pretty sure the Edifiers are -3db at 75hz while the logitechs could be -6db or -10db and still claim it as part of their FR, and given how up front they are about the fake tweeter i'm almost certain that it's not flat down to 55.
I also guarantee you that the bass from that sub will sound like ass, it will be super muddy and boomy because the sub will be filling in for a large section of low end for those satellites. The sub only has an RMS of 24 watts or something so it's going to be distorting like crazy at any loud listening levels.
Your choice is then some nicely designed wooden Edifiers with wireless remote, an additional aux input and a silk dome tweeter that will actually sound good, or an ugly set of black plastic Logitech's with a corded volume knob and big space sucking sub that might make your desk vibrate a bit but will sound awful. For an extra $20 you can get the Edifiers with bluetooth as well.
nobody has explained their recommendations.
you don't get good volume on dialog because of crappy channel mixing from your TV.
that's not a dig on your specific TV... all TV's suck at this. in fact, most receivers suck at mixing down from 5.1/7.1 to stereo.
for any content generated in surround, something like 95% of the dialog volume is mixed to the center channel.
if you're listening on a pair of stereo speakers, you get to hear what the TV thinks is best, in terms of balancing the volumes between the channels.
folks here are recommending receivers that would give you 5.1 channel audio, and then also suggesting three speakers.
the three speakers are your Front L+R, and the all important center speaker.
receivers do a moderately good job of mixing all the surround channels to just the Front L+Rs, and if you have the center speaker, it will still get all of that delicious dialog.
your budget is a little tight, but doable.
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv379bl/yamaha-rx-v379-5.1-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html $150
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IUIV4A/ $60 for your front L+R pair
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HH2GINM/ $50 for your center channel
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check out your sound settings for anything called "normalization" or "equalization".
this will cap the maximum volume difference between the audio channels. so in effect it will reduce the loud parts, and bring up the volume on the quiet parts. this may be sufficient for you to like what you hear, or be sufficient for you to just get some nicer speakers and be quite satisfied.
if the "equalization" setting fixes the quiet/loud problem, but you just want more oomph, i would recommend
eris 4.5's https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GP56OYA/ $180
or
fluance ai40's https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Bookshelf-Amplifier-Turntable-Bluetooth/dp/B07CLDGXX1/ $200
both are self-powered, and need nothing other than a cable to connect them to your Tv.
i have eris e3.5's and they are simply great.
i have fluance floor speakers, and they're also great, so i would expect good performance on the ai40's.
ai40's come with more features - a bluetooth input option, and a remote to control the volume, source.
The main issue most have is that there is a misconception that a decent home theater setup has to cost a lot of money. Most also don't realize how bad many of these soundbars actually sound (the comparison to tv speakers doesn't help haha, those are a really bad frame of reference).
For example, the following speakers are really really good for the money, there are also bookshelf versions that are even cheaper but wont have as full a sound.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-LR-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4
You can grab two of these and a simple amp or receiver and have some really good sound. And then if you want more, you can grab the center, rears, and sub for a full system at a later date.
Nothing wrong with piecemealing together a system over time.
Quick list of what you are looking at
Sound waves have length based on their frequency, called wavelength. Higher pitched sounds have shorter wavelengths. Any sounds which reach a full wavelength within the distance from the driver to the edge of the baffle are reflected back to the listener and sound louder, and any which leave the baffle before hitting a full wavelength are not, and are quieter as a result. This is called "baffle step loss".
One way to minimize this effect is to spread it out - if the tweeter is the same distance from two sides (or even three sides, if it's close to the top), the baffle reinforces the same frequency range in every direction. If you offset the tweeter so it's a different distance from each edge, it reinforces a slightly different frequency range in each direction, giving it a smoother response across the frequency range. This sounds better on its own, and may also make it easier for the designer to incorporate a "baffle step compensation" into the crossover, toning down the reinforced frequencies.
Another reason it's done, in "MTM" or bigger speakers with multiple low-frequency woofers and a single tweeter, is to get the big drivers a bit closer together.
Now, tweeters aren't always offset on homemade speakers. There are plenty of designs with centered tweeters, and some sound very good. And sometimes they're offset on commercial speakers. It just happens that a few very common DIY designs, like the Overnight Sensations here, use offset tweeters. If I had to guess, I'd say that commercial speakers are either more concerned about symmetry for aesthetics, or are designed using more custom components that make the baffle step easy to deal with, while DIY speakers are more likely to worry about getting the best performance possible without tricks.
You'll need some speakers, but this little guy is pretty awesome.
> Micca MB42X speakers on sale at amazon: $80
Micca MB42x + SMSL SA50 + Chromecast = about $194. You'd also need some speaker cable, and a 3.5mm to RCA cable.
Fluance SX6 if you want to bump up the speakers.
Here are some links
Speakers
Chair
Monitor
Desk
Drawers
Let me know if I'm missing anything and I'll add it
4"
SVS Prime Satellites
RSL CG3
Aperion Intimus 4B
Polk Blackstone TL3
Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800
MartinLogan Motion 2
MartinLogan Motion® 2i
NAD D8020
Wharfedale Crystal 4.1
Wharfedale Diamond 210
Focal Sib Evo
Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-400M
Micca MB42X
Dual 4"
Ascend HTM-200, I use these on my desk.
Emotiva BasX LCR
5"
Wavecrest Audio HVL-1 order on sale here for $80 each
PSB Alpha B1 Bookshelf Speakers
Pro-Ject Speaker Box 5 Bookshelf Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1200-12-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B00669L3HS
https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-50Wx2-TDA7492-Amplifier-Adapter/dp/B00F0H8TOC
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H8GG2
I suggest that 3 part combo. The amp lacks a sub out so run the outputs into the subwoofer, set the crossover to 80Hz, and connect the speakers to the outputs on the sub.
When your Obutto seat starts to fall apart after a few years you can just bolt a real SPARCO seat onto that frame instead of some lame gaming chair. My cockpit feels more bad ass than ever 8 years after I originally bought it. And if you havent yet bolt 2 of these (https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI) onto the seat frame. You just need a $50 amp to drive them and a mini audio jack splitter to splice the sigal out from your sound card. Drives the immersion up even more.
I'll make a list of stuff you need. For the best "bang for your buck" in the $200ish price range.
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Speaker wire. Amazon Basics makes great stuff. If you want, you can get 100 feet of it for an extra $2 I think. You can get those monoprice banana plugs if you want. They just help if you're going to be switching speakers around a lot.
Simple wire stripper. Should work just fine.
Cable to plug it in. That'll just plug the amp into a computer. And that cable is amazing quality. For real. I don't know what it is about it, but the moment I touched that cable I knew it was special. This isn't a joke either. You'll understand when you get one. Trust me.
50 watt per channel amp. This thing will be more than enough. I just like it because it is open box, so cheap. The same one new on amazon is $65. If you want to order from amazon, you can just get the smsl sa-36a. Same amp, just 20 watts per channel. Which, again, is plenty.
[Here's that cheaper smsl amp] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017W13OR0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_U2NSBbTRHGFS5). I've got a few of them. They're great. This is what I'd go for if the other one is sold out.
Cheap but good little amp. I don't have one of these because I'm not a fan of the looks, but they get great reviews and a lot of people really like them.
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Speakers:
Miccas. These things are nice for that price. In this price range, you really won't be getting anything better unless you go DIY.
Fluance SX6. These guys are big, but they throw a good amount of sound and some pretty deep bass for a pair of bookshelf speakers. Careful, they're pretty big.
Pioneer. These things are decent, but I think the Fluances would be better for this price. The SX6s throw more bass, which is good if you're not getting a sub. However, these are smaller.
Fluance signature series. I know, you said your budget is only $200, but you said if you need to spend more, then you will. These will sound better than all of the other speakers linked, however, that's not why they're here. I put them here for two reasons. The first is that they're front ported. Most people that are new to speakers might put them up against a wall or close to it, not understanding that the port needs some room to breathe. These have front ports so that's not a problem. The second reason, just look at them. If you really care about looks, these ones are the ones. They're beautiful. (My opinion obviously).
Oof almost forgot. Pleaae don't place the speakers directly on your desk.
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That's a lot. I'll sum it up with my opinion and why.
Amp: smsl sa36a. For close range, you don't need anything with more power. This thing will do whatever you need for bookshelf speakers.
Speakers: micca mb42x. Why? Here's why: for this price range, you won't notice a huge difference in any speakers, unless you get some bad ones. So, get the cheapest ones you can. Later on, if you can afford to upgrade them, you'll probably want to do that. Then you'll have a pair of $80 speakers that you don't need rather than a pair of 130 speakers that you don't need. Another reason I would pick the miccas is because they punch above their price range. Most people say they sound more like a pair of $125 speakers rather than a pair of $80 speakers. So, for real, they're good. Also, they're the smallest of the bunch.
Or, build a pair of C Notes and get something way better than any of these.
Hope this helps!
See this video by Zeos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y86D7UFDh4E
SMSL Q5 Amp + Micca MB42X speakers.
Amp http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NINSV20
Speakers http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H8GG2
Nice little amp with a remote, and the Micca's are awesome speakers for the money. You could easily add a small, powered sub into this setup someday if you wanted, too.
He isn't joking about those speakers. I have the same pair, got them from Amazon. (Of course) They sound incredible for $130 bucks.
I couldn't find an affordable buttkicker brand package but I did find a great amp and transducer on amazon for 2/3 the price of the Gamer 2 (cheapest buttkicker) at just about $100. It works fantastically! I'll post links to the products if you care to see them.
Edit:
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer by Aura Sound
Lepai LP-168HA 2.1 2 x 40-Watt Amplifier and 1x68W Sub Output by Lepai
12v 6a Adapter Power Supply for LCD Monitor with Power Cord by LCD AC Power Adapter
$30 DAC - Link - Please know these aren't game changers, it's only offering better quality sound than your motherboard. If your headphones or speakers aren't that great, it's not doing to do much. Weakest link type of thing. If your headphones suck, these wont help. But if you have a decent set of phones, many people have sworn by these.
$75 DAC - Link - More expensive, better sound output. Again, should be paired with even higher quality sound gear. $100+ speakers/headphones.
$115 DAC - My Dac - Link - I needed a dac with a little power. I use speakers with my setup instead of headphones. This one is 2x25. It's honestly the most anyone should need for a 2.0 system.
$80 Speakers - Link - These are mine. I love them. Best combined $200 I've spent. Instead of a CPU that will need to be replaced in two years, these will out last many builds if I take care of them. The reviews are through the roof compared to the price. And I'd have to agree.
There are a million reviews about the topping DAC + Micca speakers. Things feel more immersive. I think that's the simplest way to put it.
Granted this is a TINY bit over budget but I really think a subwoofer and a center channel are important to give you the home theater experience.
This would support modern codecs, Bluetooth/AirPlay etc be able to take hdmi in from your devices then send a single hdmi to your projector to feed it video.
Later on when you have the $, buy another pair of the MB42X and use them as surrounds.
Like another comment said, they are most likely a rendering. They look very similar to Kanto and audioengine speakers.
A reasonably priced powered speaker set is made by micca but only comes in black. Micca PB42X Powered Bookshelf Speakers (Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_ZOZ1wbMEPN3GH
Couldn't really find what I was looking for specifically, so I scoured a few subs and saw numerous suggestions. Ended up purchasing the following items:
Dayton Speakers
Lepy Amp
RCA to AUX
Polk Subwoofer
Speaker Wire
Super happy with these purchases. All in all it costed just about 200 bucks. For me, it's all I will ever need. Crisp sounds and heavy bass when I want it. Would consider shelling out for a better amp, but the amp provided should be sufficient if you aren't blasting your music.
Additionally, if you do plan on doing an audio set up of this nature, use this image to guide you. Also note that the DAC in the image would be your RCA to AUX if you were to use the set up I posted. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
Short answer.. DON'T BUY THESE..
Assuming the $60 budget..
These and This for starters.
If a sub is really needed. Just save up and buy a real one (~$200)
The last line makes me think you have an amp.. Do you?
Try checking out the Epson 8350 refurb: $900
A DIY screen from Carl's Place in 16:9 ratio 120": ~$100
A Denon 1913 receiver or whatever strikes your fancy at Accessories4Less: $280
This leaves you with around 700 dollars for speakers. There are a HUGE number of options at this point and the deals are always changing.
I recommend the BIC America F12 subwoofer: $200
Then for your last $500 dollars get two floor-standers and a matching center and whatever surrounds you can get.
At some point you will want to consider the following: speaker stands for bookshelf speakers, risers for floor-standing speakers, speaker wire, a second subwoofer (identical to the first), and room treatment for improved acoustics.
Don't let people say you can't have an awesome set up for 2,500. That is more than I've ever had to spend and I have a great time. Please post pictures when you've got it together!
EDIT: Some grammar.
$250 AV Receiver Denon 720 (refurb w/ltd warranty, has HDCP 2.2 Dolby Atmos)
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs720w/denon-avr-s720w-7.2-ch-x-75-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html
$90 Micca MB42X Bookshelves PAIR for Front
$90 Micca MB42X Bookshelves PAIR for Surround
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
$70 Micca MB42X-C Center Channel
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00HHFBEK6
$42 Micca M8C In-ceiling speakers EACH (for x.x.2 atmos)
$42 Micca M8C In-ceiling speakers EACH (for x.x.2 atmos)
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-M-8C-Ceiling-Speaker-Pivoting/dp/B002YPS6T6
$200 BIC America F12 12" Sub
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
$550 Projector Optoma 142X (cnet.com "Best Picture for the Money" 2018)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HQCF6R6
$205 Elite Manual 120" Projector Screen
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OLO59EI
TOTAL: $1550
You will also want a universal remote (Logitech Harmony recommended), speaker wire / banana plugs, stands / mounts, HDMI + subwoofer cable. So with this stuff as well you're over budget, but you could grab everything except the sub and add that later, for example.
EDIT: found the projector recommendation here, with more research you might be able to find better (same for the screen):
https://www.cnet.com/topics/tvs/best-tvs/projectors/
Think of it like a subwoofer that shakes objects rather than the air. Its hard to hear in any room but the one your in, and you FEEL the ship. Its adds as much immersion as putting on the rift.
you need these things to make it:
3.5mm Stereo Male to 2RCA Male
Audio Amplifier
Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer
Optional Low pass filter
For that amount of money you should be able to get a U-Turn, a preamp and a set of cheap powered speakers.
If you want something even better you can look at used equipment, although I understand giving used stuff for Christmas might not be desirable for all.
EDIT: A system could look something like this:
or if you can stetch the budget a bit
That'd be a total of $284 (with M-Audio) or $328 (with Micca) (excl. potential shipping cost). Much better investment than the all-in-one system. It will sound MUCH better and last your gf MUCH longer. And as an extra bonus she can upgrade individual parts if she decides she wants to gradually upgrade later on - something which is more or less impossible (or at least impractical) with the all-in-one-system.
Get a pair of bookshelves and a Chromecast Audio for each room. The music playing can be synced with Chromecast. You could probably do 3 rooms with $500.
Here's an example of what you could get:
3 x https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A2QLGEQ/
3 x https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1481779004&sr=1-1&keywords=mb42x
3 x http://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-chromecast-audio-black/4532100.p?skuId=4532100
1 x https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BWS7HY6/?ie=UTF8&psc=1
3 x https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000068O3A/?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Went a bit over budget, oh well.
This is a receiver + 5.1 system that adds up to $550 and has 4k passthrough (not sure on lossless audio like DTS-HD), but is $50 over your budget. Still better than any soundbar you'll find...
Get an Audio Technica AT-LP60 + an amplifier + speakers + speaker wire. That's what I have and it cost me less than $180. Here's the Amazon links for everything I have:
Record player
Speakers
Pre-amp
Speaker wire
STAY AWAY FROM CROSLEYS OR ANYTHING WITH BUILT IN SPEAKERS. DO NOT BUY A RECORD PLAYER UNDER $80. IT'S WORTH IT TO SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY AND GET A SETUP THAT WILL SOUND NICE AND WON'T DESTROY YOUR RECORDS. Can't stress that enough.
Lots of people buy soundbars because they are convenient. They're small, don't require much wiring, and are inexpensive.
However, they never match the sound quality of real speakers. Music is meant to be heard on a stereo (2 speakers) so soundbars will never sound as good.
http://www.cnet.com/news/before-you-buy-a-sound-bar-speaker-read-this/
If you're on a tight budget then I personally recommend the Andrew Jones Pioneer bookshelf speakers. Mr. Jones is a well regarded speaker designer and they sound great. Not only do I like the speakers, but they are always recommended in the hi-fi world. Plus, with a stereo you can always upgrade to better parts later on. Over time, you could get better speakers, a subwoofer, center channel, and eventually you'll have a kickass 5.1 system if you want it. Soundbars don't allow any room for upgrading
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/1278774-pioneer-s-speaker-genius-hits-low-price-point.html
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-bookshelf-speakers/
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
If I had a $1500 budget, I would recommend the following:
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Epson Home Cinema 2150 - $699.00
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Micca MB42X - $79.95
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Micca MB42X Center - $69.95
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Fluance AVBP2 - $119.99
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Denon AVR S530BT - $229.00
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Silver Ticket 120" Screen - $249.98
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This would give you a decent entry level setup. You'll have about 50$ left over for speaker wire. I am be no means an expert but I lurk a lot and I think this would be decent.
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what you mean like these
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-B652-2-Way-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU
God dam, you’re right.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iPJDCbK826M4E
Here is how I got started:
Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers $40 refurbished
Micca MB42-C Center Channel Speaker $27 new
Denon AVR-1912 7.1 Receiver $75 used on Craigslist
The great thing about these speakers is you can order a $30 crossover upgrade from Micca and feel like you got brand new speakers.
You could also skip the center channel and get a subwoofer on Craigslist, instead.
Edifier Speaker sale (26%-30% off):
Edit - sound tests:
If your budget is $100 then I believe you can do better than the Razer speakers. I would suggest either these Edefier or Logitech speakers. Unless he is only looking for aesthetics, these speakers will sound so much better. I would suggest the Logitech ones as the best though, they even come with a subwoofer.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type|Item|Price
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CPU | AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor | $799.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $148.89 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | ASRock - Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming ATX TR4 Motherboard | $349.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $394.99 @ Newegg
Storage | SanDisk - Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $279.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $447.30 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SEA HAWK X Video Card | $804.98 @ Newegg
Case | NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case | $54.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $134.89 @ OutletPC
UHD Blu-ray | Buffalo BRUHD-PU3 | ￥ 12,800 @ Amazon.co.jp
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit | $135.88 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Alienware 34 Curved Gaming Monitor AW3418DW | $999.99 @ Dell
Speakers | [Edifier R1280T Powered Bookshelf Speakers] (https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA) | $99.99 @ Amazon
Microphone | [Blue Yeti USB Microphone] (https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Yeti-USB-Microphone-Silver/dp/B01LY6Z2M6) | $89.99 @ Amazon
Headphones | [Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 Ohm] (https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-770-closed-Studio-Headphone/dp/B0016MNAAI) | $159.00 @ Amazon
DAC | [JDS Labs Objective2 + ODAC Amp] (https://www.jdslabs.com/products/48/objective2-odac-combo-revb/) | $279.00 @ JDSLabs
Keyboard | [Microsoft Natural Keyboard 4000] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000A6PPOK) | $29.99 @ Amazon
Mouse | [Microsoft Classic Intellimouse] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076C75X1T) | $39.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $5458.78
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-23 19:37 EST-0500 |
Notepad runs really fast now.
Denon E200 $170
2 Sets of Pioneer BS22 ON SALE NOW $99.99 per set ~ $200 total
1 Pioneer C22 center speaker ON SALE NOW $66.99
Dayton Sub-1000 $135.45
Puts you at $572 before Tax/Shipping and Cables
I've sat here a minute trying to think of a nice way to say this, and I can't, so here's what I've got, and it's not meant to be impolite:
$150 cad isn't enough for anything good, new. A soundbar may or may not be marginally better than your TV speakers. If you buy one with a sub, it'll add bass. It won't be clear, it won't be 'good,' it'll just be there. If that's all you want, well okay then. Regarding surround sound and music: More of the same. Music is generally just 2.1, and none of the soundbars will be anything even remotely interesting. For surround sound.... Similar to the bass: You will physically have sound coming from speakers around you, but it won't be good sounding.
I'm not trying to be high and mighty, I'm on a very low end setup compared to most people here (Denon X series and Elacs.) Honestly, for $150, you can buy something, and it'll sound 'different' than the tv speakers, but not 'good.' You'll either be adding bass or you'll be adding speakers around you, and that's all I can say about it.
I know you said you don't have the space for surround sound: What does that mean? How much room do you have? If you can, I'd vote to buy this receiver and preferably these or these if your budget forced. Those are small speakers, only about 8 inches. For very similar money, that's better and will eventually let you get a better sub and center / surround speakers. The "4.1" soundbar isn't real 4.1, it's just reflecting sound around your room. I'm sure it'll sound different, but just... meh.
You might want to check out /r/BudgetAudiophile Broadly though, they're all going to be similarly loud and similar in sound quality. I'd vote the LG or Samsung over Sony. I would encourage you not to get a soundbar.
EDIT: By the way, the LG does have a separate sub.
So yeah, I'm sure my placement is trash and everything is overkill for my tiny apartment, but it sounds amazing and I couldn't be happier.
I have my my PS4 Pro, Xbox One X, and Switch all hooked up off to the side running through the receiver.
Barring significant discounts, the following list tends to be the best bang-for-buck value subs, in order of increasing price:
$110 Dayton Audio SUB-1000
$140 Dayton Audio SUB-1200
$200 BIC F12. ^(Edit: not sure if designed by Dr. Hsu.)
$290 BIC PL-200 II (now $250). ^(Edit: Designed by Dr. Hsu.)
They are all great at their price points. But if you can swing the pricier BIC, you should be VERY happy.
IMHO: A subwoofer isn't optional when it comes to dubstep. You'll be missing all the low-end (which let's be honest, is why we're all here) if you omit a decent sub from you set up. As far as amps (I call these receivers) go, you'd probably be best off visiting your local pawn shop or anywhere you can get pre-owned electronics and picking something up. I got mine for under $100CAD and it has power to spare. For ease of set-up I'd suggest finding something with dedicated subwoofer outputs on the back. As for speakers, these or these will do right by you. Personally I use this subwoofer, and it has the juice to have my entire house shaking. Wires are pretty much standard in my experience as long as you're talking about a simple home listening system. These wires would do fine for your needs. If you want a proper listening experience dont use bluetooth speakers, and dont skimp on a subwoofer.
Hope that helps, my dude!
They're an ok loudspeaker company, their speakers usually have a very bright sound and punchy bass, not really neutral but some people like non neutral speakers. Dont know how their satellite speakers will sound though, probably not that good(they're tiny satellite speakers after all). And 2800$ is way too much for speakers that small. That doesn't really look like a good deal for 2100$ even. If you're looking for a 5.1 system these should beat those or get similar performance atleast - http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG, and this sub will literally destroy that one when it comes to performance and bass output - SVS PB 1000
EDIT : Actually it seems that the guy is just lying about the price, the speakers cost 250$ each and the sub is 500$, a much more acceptable price, at least for the speakers, sub is still overpriced. Those prices put the total cost at around 1750$ that is if you buy everything individually. They're usually cheaper when purchased as a system bundle. I'd say 1000$ would be a good price for a used set.
BTW the speakers are Golden Ear SuperSat3, the sub is Forcefield 3 and the system is called the GoldenEar SuperCinema 3
Denon X-1000: $200
Dayton B652 x3 (6 speakers total, save the extra): $105
Monoprice sub: $100
I know you say HTIB is all he needs, but honestly, you get a LOT more by piecing it together, for the same price.
I've always found that those systems with the subwoofer rely too much on the sub, which makes everything boomy. Others might have different experience, but i'd suggest going with something that is just 2.0. In that budget, i think you could find the m-audio av30 or something similar.
Another idea is to get a Dayton DTA-1 and a set of Dayton B652 speakers. I have this in my bedroom right now and it is perfect for music. Very well balanced..
If you do want that subwoofer, people on here have said good things about the klipsch promedia 2.1 set, which is a little over your budget, but you might be able to find used/refurb deals online.
Here are examples of people who could have used help.
I think this person bought 5.1 speakers for his or her PC but didn't have the proper sound card.
http://www.reddit.com/r/audio/comments/jwjmb/i_have_51_logitech_speakers_and_theyre_all/
This person got recommended Bose. From my two hours of research, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG... Bose is the Alienware of the audio world. The quality may not be bad but it is overpriced.
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/lucqk/31_computer_speaker_system_suggestions/
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Now if anyone wants to help me, I want to get these bookshelf speakers with this amplifier.
Some of the amplifier reviews complain about a pop when you turn it on/off. Is there an inexpensive alternative? Also what kind of cables am I gonna need? I have a asrock z68 e3 g3. It has a SPDIF ouput.
I used to have those, but then I got a set of bookshelf speakers with an amp, and I am never ever going back. They blow even my old klipsch 4.1s away.
My current setup:
Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Black, Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_JVxvyb84AS4AB
ONEU Mini amplifier Super Bass Hi-Fi Stereo Audio Amp Booster for Car Moto Home with DC 12V 3A Power Supply, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019MBUX40/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sWxvybD03CTT7
I do not miss surround sound with how incredibly clear these guys are.
You have an excellent starter table. Your MCS 6604 is a semi-automatic quartz-lock turntable based around a p-mount/T4P tonearm. It was manufactured by Matsushita, the parent company for Technics and is essentially a Technics SL-Q10/Q100/Q1000.
Semi-automatic means that you will need to set the needle on the record to begin play, but when it is finished playing, it will automatically return to the tonearm rest. Quartz-lock means that is automatically sets the correct pitch based on internal circuitry. P-mount/T4P was a cartridge standard designed to simplify turntable setup for the general vinyl user.
If everything else is in working order, the only thing you will need is a new cartridge/stylus combo. I would recommend the Audio Technica AT92E or AT311E. They are proven workhorse cartridges and still readily available.
The receiver will be a good starter unit. The tape deck may need some service if it's been sitting for awhile. Specifically the belts may have become dried, stretched and or rotted over time.
As far as speakers, the Pioneer SP-B22LR are an excellent bookshelf speaker that many reviews have called "budget audiophile" level. Normally $130 for the pair, they routinely go on sale below $100 about once a month. When one major retailer (Best Buy, Amazon, etc.) has them on sale, the other quickly follow suit.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
Edit: added speaker info.
Standard issue /r/audio "I want better computer speakers" answer - stop looking at "all in one" bundles. Since you say you have 3 monitors, I'm guessing you also built your computer from parts, right? You should look at your speaker system the same way. The links you posted to 2.1 speaker systems are like going to /r/buildapc and saying "hey guys, help me decide between these Dell and HP systems I saw on sale at Best Buy".
Absolute bare minimum, you want an amplifier and bookshelf speakers:
http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
http://www.amazon.com/Lepai-LP-2020A-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/
One step up from that, you want a powered subwoofer:
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-800-8-80-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-627
Need your speakers to be far away from the amp? Trivial, because the speakers hook up to the amp using speaker wire, which you cut to fit:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2747&seq=1&format=2
The links above are basically the absolute bare minimum I can recommend in this subreddit without getting crucified. If you can share your maximum budget, there are probably more and better recommendations.
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Here are the Amazon links with no fuckery
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Center-Speaker-Black/dp/B07B4VCT99/
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Floorstanding-Speaker-Black/dp/B07B4V37VV
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-SUB3010-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B07B4WM5H1
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Also, they are not on sale... they are on 'sale'. Normal discount.
Mods - Check the user's post history... all links to affiliate sites.
All in the sidebar.....
https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/d1010iv
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC
https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/multimedia-desktop/hivi-acoustics/d1080iv
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X741TB0
I think the powered Miccas, the PB42X (same as MB42X but with built-in amp) would be a better option as far as sound quality goes.
The Logitech system won't sound as good, but you may find its 'bassy' sound more entertaining, depending on what you use them for. I'd still recommend the Miccas though as you can always add a sub at a later date which would be much better than the one with the Logitech system.
Stay the fuck away from Pyle. The 'specs' are mostly complete bullshit and most units don't last more than a few months. If you want more power (the amp in the PB42X isn't as loud) I'd look into upping the price slightly to an SMSL SA50, SA60 or anything in that range really.
You may get better recommendations if we knew what you wanted out of them (power, bass, size, ect..) but I find it very rare that the Miccas would be a bad choice.
I bet they're absolute trash.
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-COVO-S-Compact-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00N8265I8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498973961&sr=8-1&keywords=micca+covo-s
These will sound way better
And when you save up you can get a real subwoofer.
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-800-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU30K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1498974072&sr=1-1&keywords=dayton+audio+sub+800
What setup: 5.1 , stereo, 2.1?
Assuming 5.1:
$180 Reciever
$110 Subwoofer (easily find $10 promo code online, or its $120)
$90 Fronts
$80 Center (matching)
$40 Rears
So that $500, but it doesn't include speaker wires (get 14 gauge oxygen free), stands/mount, cable (mono coax subwoofer cable), etc. Some of this equipment can be bought for slightly cheaper used on Amazon, so you can shave a few bucks that way.
These or https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2?
Are you talking about a $100-150 price limit?
Well, if you want a 2.1 computer speaker set and never intend on spending more money on upgrades, then the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 is still a solid choice. Even after 15 years on the market.
If you are starting with $100-150 and plan on upgrading/expanding in the future, I would recommend starting with a pair of bookshelf speakers and a mini amp. Something like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/
https://www.amazon.com/Lepy-LP-2020A-Digital-Amplifier-Stereo/dp/B00C2P61FO/
As time goes by, you can add a subwoofer or swap out the amp for a AV Receiver. You can expand into a 5.1 or Atmos surround system by add a center channel, surrounds, or height speakers.
It all comes down to whether you want to go the one-and-done route or a piece-by-piece upgrade route.
To build a system using the minimum recommendations from this sub, let's start with this diagram: http://i.imgur.com/Z8FMJ.png
DAC is optional, so is a subwoofer but I recommend one.
DAC: Behringer UCA202 $29.99 Link: http://amzn.com/B000KW2YEI
Amplifier: SMSL SA-50 $68.99 Link: http://amzn.com/B00F0H8TOC
Subwoofer: Dayton Audio SUB-800 $99.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B0063NU30K
Bookshelf Speakers: Micca MB42X $89.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B00E7H8GG2
Wire: 16-gauge Speaker Wire $8.00 Link: http://amzn.com/B006LW0WDQ
With DAC, this cable: Stereo Male to 2 RCA Male $5 Link: http://amzn.com/B00I0HPK6O
Without DAC, this cable: Monoprice 105597 3-Feet Premium Stereo Male to 2RCA Male $5 Link: http://amzn.com/B0094A1F3S
This is a great starter system, I would have loved to had something like this starting out.
All of these pieces can be upgraded, do your research. Look for sales etc. Good luck and have fun.
Buy a set of passive speakers with an amplifier that has bluetooth capability. It gives you a future upgrade path.
Suggestions for:
Amplification
Speakers
A number of suggestions on hardware is in the sidebar, if you don't like these.
Do NOT buy another battery bluetooth speaker. They are all hot garbage.
Micca MB42X bookshelf speakers are on sale for $71. Some of them on the Warehouse Deals side are also 20% off if you're a Prime member so they end up being like $50ish. Great set of speakers.
I really like the Chomecast Audios.
I use them with these amps
and these speakers 1 2
. All work really well together
>This will be my first home theater setup, so it doesn't have to be the most insane sound quality
Why are you looking for 5.2 then?
Also, you probably want to stay away from HTIB if you're look for something that looks and sounds good.
$160 Receiver
$290 Energy Take Classic 5.1
If you're really concerned about bass, you're probably going to need to up your budget, these guys are pretty well regarded
If you want to spend more on speakers, these are solid intro to home theater speakers too (at $112 per speaker for L/R + $350 for a center channel) and I'd skimp on the surrounds and just buy whatever's cheap
Don't know the size of your room but with a $1800 budget this is what I'd do:
Receiver $390: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxa750bl/yamaha-rx-a750-7.2-ch-x-90-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html
L/R mains $300: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Floorstanding-Speaker/dp/B0044D178S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1464963383&sr=8-7&keywords=infinity+primus
Center $140: http://smile.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Speaker-Center-Channel/dp/B0046A8R5A/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1464963428&sr=1-1&keywords=infinity+primus
Surrounds $90: http://smile.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_7?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1464963474&sr=1-7&keywords=infinity+primus
Subwoofer $800: http://www.rythmikaudio.com/LVX12.html
Great deal right now on the Andrew Jones bookshelf speakers. Grab two pairs and then you just need a center, sub and receiver.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_doGPDb749RPS3
Within your budget:
Yes, the general consensus among audiophiles is that Bose is overpriced and soundbars are very underwhelming. "Real 5.1 sound" cannot (yet) be achieved without a real 5.1 setup. Most HTIB (Home Theatres in a Box) will give you better sound than a soundbar.
I own this 5.1 Pioneer speaker setup found here and I highly recommend it to anyone that is looking for a good entry level home theater setup. Shop around and you can get a fantastic deal on the whole setup. I got the 5.0 setup for less than $300 and then upgraded to a $200 BIC 12 sub to get the 0.1.
You will then of course need a decent reciever (about $250) and cables and you will blow any speaker bar out of the water. I am not certain if this is within your budget since you only quoted "cheaper than bose" but I have seen this exact setup recommend many times before and I feel it is one of the best values for the price.
Edit: I was way under your budget. You could definitely do better than this setup at your price range.
Hello, fellow Canadian!
DO NOT BUY THIS SYSTEM. You can get a MUCH better system for $25.49 more.
Check this out:
ELAC F5 Towers - $839.98
ELAC B4 Surrounds - $269.99
ELAC C5 Center - $319.99
BIC F12 Subwoofer - $295.53 (incl. shipping)
Sub-Total: $1725.49
I would recommend just getting ELAC B5s or B6s for the front speakers and you can save a couple hundred dollars more (which I might put towards a better subwoofer or a second subwoofer).
Sorry I wrote all that without directly addressing your question, but that Polk package is bad value (even though it's on sale) and the included subwoofer is a pile of steaming shyte.
So, for pairing speakers with a receiver, pretty much anything works. Denon, Marantz, and Yamaha are the most recommended brands here.
Gibby's Electronics sells the Denon X1300 for $399.99 (b-stock) but they're out of stock. They also have the S710W for $399.99 (b-stock, I don't get the pricing), which is probably your best option unless you're willing to wait for b-stock to come in for the X1300.
I advocate using component bookshelves speakers with a mini amp unless space is at a big premium. They are better engineered, have better bang for your buck, and have a much cleaner sound.
You have the added bonus that the speakers are more flexible for other uses and, if you wanted to go from 2.0 to something else, it's a pretty easy upgrade, ala: you don't have to pitch the old system and get something new. I think you'd find a good 2.0 system to be much more impressive than a lot of the gamer sound systems out there.
Polk Audio T15 Bookshelf Speakers
Dayton Audio DTA-1 Digital Amplifier
Amazon Basics Speaker Cable
Another note: A system like this will sound way fuller without a boominess that you'd get from most gaming 2.1 sound systems. All of my friends that I have recommended go this route have loved it!
[standard "audio is very, very subjective" disclaimer]
I was actually just helping someone out with this. I feel that while all parts of your computer are important in some way, the parts you actually interact with - Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Audio - are just as important, if not more important than the insides of your computer. Now I'm NOT saying go blow your budget on a 1440P monitor, mechanical KB, high quality mouse, and $300 in audio while running an HD5450. But I am saying you should ideally spend at least 1/3 of the cost of the tower into peripherals. A very blanket statement, and I don't necessarily mean do literally that, but I think it gets the point across.
I'm going to focus mainly on speakers here since headphones have been pretty well covered.
More to the point of audio, if you are spending less than $50 on speakers, any of the multitude of speakers labeled "computer speakers" will be just fine. If you are looking for physical surround, those 5.1 systems aren't too bad either, and get the job done since "real" 5.1 set ups can get costly.
BUT if you are venturing into the $60+, please DO strongly considering getting bookshelf speakers, or monitors (as in studio monitors, not displays). A real 2.0 setup with quality speakers and an inexpensive amp will sound loads better than all of the 2.1 "all-in-one" speaker setups (think Logitech cheapos). Because think about this: when a "real" subwoofer costs $90+, and you buy a pair of speakers and an sub for $40, corners are being cut.
They sound great, will have much better imaging, range, clarity, separation, fullness, tone, and just better sound quality.
You also get the awesome flexibility and "modularity" of putting together a system. Want to upgrade the speakers? No need to buy a new amp, just buy nicer speakers, and vice versa. Want to add a subwoofer? No problem, just add it to the chain! With the "all-in-one" systems you'd have to get a whole new system if you wanted to add a sub when your current one didn't come with one, or you want a better one.
Not to mention they look great sitting on a desk. If you care about aesthetics a set of speakers will look very nice compared to the dinky, cheap, plastic speakers in the sub $100 range.
/r/zeos has great guides he put together for all sorts of speaker systems, from 2.0 to 7.1. For most people on this subreddit, a good 2.0/2.1 system would be fitting.
If you are thinking about spending more than $50 but less than $100 consider this:
Type|Item|Price
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Speakers | Dayton Audio B652 Bookshelf Speakers | $51.99 @ Amazon
Amplifier | Lepai LP-2020A+ Class-T Digital Audio Amplifier | $21.59 @ Amazon
Speaker Wire | RCA 50FT 16 gauge Speaker Wire | $6.99 @ Amazon
Audio Cable | Startech 6FT 3.5mm Male to Male audio cable | $4.99 @ Amazon
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $84.56
This is a GREAT entry level 2.0 setup, and has everything you need. The Speakers are the best $50 speakers you can buy, and they are normally $39.99 but for some reason have seen a price hike. Still 39.99 direct from Parts-Express, but no free shipping. They sound great, look pretty decent, and get pretty loud. Great for music and games. The Amp is great little amp, all metal construction, good feeling knobs, 2 inputs, tonal controls/bypass, and will power these speakers sufficiently. If you have wire/cables lying around you wouldn't need to buy those, saving $10. An 3.5mm Male to RCA male would work too. Highly recommended for people who want to dabble with quality audio but don't want the "audiophile" price tag.
EDIT: Formatting
A 3.1, or possibly even a 3.2 setup down the road, should do nicely. I would highly consider these Emptek (now RBH sound) speakers and this matching Center, along with a sub of your choice. The Bic F12 is a local favorite. This leaves some change (~$400) for a receiver and wires and whatnot, or maybe some speaker stands.
Those speakers really sound fantastic though, and they look like something you would normally find in the $1000+ range of bookshelves. Plus, they match your furniture pretty well, so thats a plus.
I use an AuraSound tactile transducer mounted to the back of my chair. I haven't tried a Buttkicker, but my setup seems to work well enough for significantly less money.
http://smile.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422062773&sr=8-1&keywords=aura+bass+shaker&pebp=1422062755133&peasin=B0002ZPTBI
There is nothing wrong with your choices except if you have money I would not get the Lepai. Either of the speakers you picked would work fine but I'll give you some other options.
Budget is $250 so lets see how we can spend it.
https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-50Wx2-TDA7492-Amplifier-Adapter/dp/B00F0H8TOC/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1484858805&sr=1-2&keywords=smsl
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1484859060&sr=1-1&keywords=mb42x
https://www.amazon.com/Generic-F8V235-12-3-5mm-cable-12-Feet/dp/B01K9SCY88/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1484859089&sr=1-7&keywords=stereo%2Bto%2Brca&th=1&psc=1
/done
Purchase List:
Optoma HD27 1080p 3D DLP Home Theater Projector - amazing image quality and extremely bright - can almost watch the screen with all the lights on: https://www.amazon.com/Optoma-HD27-1080p-Theater-Projector/dp/B01JR7G672
Homegear 100” HD Motorized 16:9 Projector Screen W/ Remote Control - works very well, packaged and arrived in great condition: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J22TNRI
Yamaha RX-V379BL 5.1-Channel A/V Receiver with Bluetooth: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V5VJ3TM
2 ELAC B6 Debut Series 6.5" L & R Speakers by Andrew Jones: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014GSEQ06
1 ELAC C5 Debut Series 5.25" Center Speaker by Andrew Jones: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014GSEQWE
AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014I8TC4E
Monoprice Affinity Premium 14AWG Braided Speaker Wire: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015YN6G9G
VideoSecu 2 Heavy duty PA DJ Club Adjustable Height Satellite Speaker Stand Mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VRREPG
Projector Mount - VideoSecu LCD/DLP Projector Ceiling Mount Bracket: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IDC0K2
2x LED Lighting for Bar/Couch: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V27VX7E
To be brief, the pressure from the needle is too heavy. So basically it is slowing (but also quickly) grinding out the grooves. This is a $300+ record. Take care of it!
I recommend getting this turntable and these speakers for a starting set up.
I realize it is expensive, but worth it.
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Black, Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_0KIMAbACJDP4B
AmazonBasics 16-Gauge Speaker Wire - 100 Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006LW0W5Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_vLIMAbNV7J12N
Do NOT buy a second Z333 set. The Z333 is only 2 x 8 watts plus a sub. It does not even have a tweeter, its "decorative". A second Logitech set won't give better sound, it just gives louder mediocrity. IMHO you should start with a good set monitors and then add a subwoofer later. You'll hear details you've been missing. In the short term you might sacrifice some boomy bass but you would have much better sound overall.
I currently own 3 sets of desk "monitors". The quotes are there because these are not truly flat response studio monitors. They are aimed at consumers.
So the above are the only ones with which I have personal experience. To me, the Mackie and Edifier are more or less interchangeable.
The cheapest speakers r/audiophile will recommend are the Micca PB42X. Google shows that Micca has quite a following. There a lot of YouTube video reviews of them too.
My apologies for all the US merchant links. It's all I know.
Edit - more advice from r/HTBuyingGuides . Scroll down to the Audio/Speaker section of this FAQ.
Denon X1400H - $300
ELAC B6.2 - 2 pairs for front and surround - $300
ELAC C6.2 - $140
SVS SB12-NSD - $399.99
Total = $1140
Decent 5.1 setup on sale.
Good: Polk T15's (on sale for $50 right now)
Better: ELAC Debut 2.0 (on sale for $150)
All right guys, I just had to take a picture of the two speakers together because, as you can see, compared to the diminutive MK402 the Elacs are simply HUGE. I kept the mouse in the pic to give you an idea (sorry, I checked, I had no bananas!).
Their size is something you should be aware of, especially if you are going to keep em -like me- as monitors on a desk.
A little background on my system: I use mainly Tidal hi-res streaming as source. The PC is hooked via USB to an external dac, an AUNE X1S, line out of the DAC goes into a Dayton DTA-120 (the real hero of this story, spoilers!!!) that powers the speakers.
Right out of the box, I position the Elacs on the desk (on foam absorbers for studio monitors, you might notice em under the elacs in the pic), hook em up, and Im shocked. They sound exactly like the MK402... wtf?
Well the first lesson is, guys, believe in break-in. I had the same thing happening with the MK402. They sounded a bit crappy and harsh at first, but sloooooooooooowly the sound mellowed and became fuller. Fact is it happened so progressively I always had the doubt it was my ear/brain adjusting to their sound more than break-in.
This time around, though, it happened in a matter of just an hour and possibly less. Something definitely "loosened up" inside the ELACS, and oh boy... the poor daytons were blown out of the water.
First thing you will notice is the obvious one. The Elacs will go lower... and DEEPER. Please be aware that the MK402 go crazy low for their size. You can easily be shocked at the bass they can "magically" let out... but it definitely lacks that punch and that fullness that the ELACS will provide with an easiness that is honestly disarming. One of their strong points is that they sound (and they will go LOUD!) like they dont even care. You crank the volume and they just shrug and give you volume and power, never losing their composture, whereas the MK402 will totally break down and will start showing signs of ...suffering?
Second thing you'll notice is... despite their BIG size, they are muuuuuuuch easier to position. The Mk402 are extremely, extremely fussy. Push them one inch too close to the rear wall, the bass goes so muddy you wanna kill yourself, pull em one inch too far and the bass becomes anemic and the "magic" disappears. I guess Mr Andrew Jones did the right thing putting the reflex on the baffle instead of the more typical rear exhaust. But it doesnt end there. the biggest difference is the dispersion. The MK402 CAN sound awesome and "flat" but you must almost lock your head in a very precise and narrow position. Move sideways or a little back and forth and some frequencies will overwhelm others. with the Elacs... well, I'm flabbergasted. You can almost move around the room and you'll hear the frequencies pretty much the same way in every position.
Obviously the Elacs -I suspect for the same reason: dispersion- will give a much better holographic presentation, but Im still working on the placement and my room is really fussy so maybe I'll update you guys later when I finally manage to make the speakers "disappear", which was something simply impossible to achieve with the Daytons (believe me... I tried).
Third thing you'll notice (as they keep breaking in, becoming more and more transparent) is how comparatively analitic they are. Listening to Steely Dan's "I got the news" the infamous scratching/clicking around 2:17 made me jump on the seat, I litterally thought something was faulty and breaking!
After a while, though, the biggest and most shocking realization is how nonchalantly the little class-D amplifier from Dayton is driving the Elacs. The speakers are quite efficient, yes, but I was ALMOST sure I would need a better amplifier (my eyes are on the NAD326BEE, always been a big fan of NAD sound), but Im not so sure anymore. Volume knob is at hour ten/eleven (it will go as far as hour five) and the room is filled with a smooth, relaxed, full sound. Maybe the NAD can wait!
Okay, I'll shut up for now. I'll leave here a few links with all the aforementioned gear for reference, especially price-wise.
Aune DAC
Dayton D-Class Amp
Dayton MK402
Elac B6.2
*edited endless times for clarity and cause I do thousands of typos.
$300 - $500 can get you a great new setup if you piece it together correctly. On the lower end, here's one I'd recommend
Turntable: U-Turn Orbit Basic: $179
Phono Preamplifier: ART Pro Audio DJPRE II: $49
Speakers: Edifier R1280T Powered Bookshelf Speakers: $100
By going with active/powered speakers, you can forego getting an AV Receiver for amplification needed for passive speakers (you could also look at receivers with built in phono stages and passive speakers if you want to spend a bit more).
This would cost about $330, not including any additional/longer cables or any other accessories. It isn't a top of the line rig, but it would be a pretty big upgrade from what you have now
You could also go the vintage route and probably get an even better setup, but you'll need to know a bit more on what to look for in terms of conditions and brands and whatnot
You could always just get a headphone amp and separate powered speakers. In order to not break the bank but still have quality products, I recommend:
Headphone Amp
Powered speakers
Have owned both and can say you’ll be happy, especially for the price point.
Here you go.
They're powered. They're also on the sidebar bookshelf speakers recommendation list at your price point. I own them and am very happy with them.
Is an amp needed in that price?
Look into either of thede speakers:
Dayton Audio B652 6-1/2-Inch 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_B3ekzbXR3T0AD
Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Black, Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_E4ekzb11C5YZJ
With this amp:
Lepy LP-2024A+ Hi-Fi Audio Amplifier Stereo Power Amplifier Car Amplifier with Power Supply, 3A Power https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ULRFQ1A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_u5ekzbPS4WWVE
That's about as good of a low budget system as possible, while still being a foray into hobby/enthusiast audio equipment. Unless you want to look into used stuff. Going use can get you a really good set up for price but take more work to find but is hard to recommend.
Buy a U-Turn Basic, Micca MB42 speakers, Lepai amp, Pyle pre amp and some cheap speaker wire
It's over your budget but this is about as cheap as you can get while still getting new high quality gear.
There aren't a ton of options at that size that are passive, it's a small market obviously and it seems like it's either super cheap and bad and/or outrageously expensive.
Cambridge Audio SX50 sound great and are smaller than average bookshelves, might still be too big.
They also make the Minx Min 22, this one I haven't heard though but it's definitely the right size and under budget.
Monitor Audio makes little cube speakers but they're somehow almost $400, and more for satellite surround use.
Super budget and also a little bigger would be the Micca MB42's for $60
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If you feel like hunting around audiogon/craigslist/usaudiomart you might be able to find something better. The PSB Alpha LR1 was great. Realistic Minimus 7's are legendary and with a little tweak to the crossover are surprisingly great.
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Oh definitely, I'm surprised how good sound some CRTs have, the best definitely sound better than my $150 Panasonic Sounbar. But even $60 speakers like this with a $30-60 mini amp would sound better let alone mid-range or high-end sound systems.
Bose is 100% about marketing to people who buy into style over substance. The sound quality is generally among the worst you can buy, especially at the price point. Their noise cancelling headphones are OK, I'll give 'em that much.
Spend a few minutes in /r/hometheater or over on avsforum - you don't need to look far to find many, many better sounding and less expensive speaker setups. Just one example, these little guys will blow the doors off the Bose cubes.
Do you plan on continuing to use the receiver? Because if so then the Pioneer SP-BS22 bookshelves are spectacular for the price range. I have them and can say nothing but good things about them. I have also had them demoed to me by Andrew Jones himself at Pioneer here in SoCal and that was what really sold me on them. They will also blow any computer speakers from Logitech and klipsch away unless you need a lot more bass than these can provide, which is substantial.
For comparison I also have the JBL 4326 studio monitors in my office which I also love very much.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
Yes. Do this.
Right now I've got that exact lepai driving these $125 speakers (set). They were designed by Andrew Jones, who is one of the more successful speaker "engineers" whos last speakers retailed for over $40,000. They sound fantastic. They rival speakers that I've heard at almost 5x the price.
I added Bluetooth fuctionality with one of [these receivers] ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GX71GNO/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1427739222&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=bluetooth+audio+receiver&dpPl=1&dpID=41ATezzg6pL&ref=plSrch )
The cool thing about getting a real set of bookshelves and starting receiver like the lepai is its cheap enough to upgrade later when your budget allows. You can go ahead at some point and get a real 5.1 or 7.1 receiver and the other speakers (matching or not). Many, if not most modern receivers come with Bluetooth and or apple airplay built in. Even something like the [Yamaha 375] ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HZE2WW8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1427741141&sr=8-2&keywords=yamaha+receiver&dpPl=1&dpID=31Cl2ylwH0L&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SX200_QL40 ) has more than enough horsepower.
Razer is not know for bifl.
Your budget is pretty small to get a receiver AND a full 5.1 set up. If you care about your audio, which it looks like you do after ditching the sound bar. I would suggest starting off with a 2.1 set up and adding the center, and surround speakers later when you have more money.
These are even on sale right now to make it even easier: https://smile.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4/
Good starter bookshelf speakers for people who want to get into high-fidelity audio.
NoAudiophile review + MB42X DSP corrections:
http://noaudiophile.com/Micca_MB42x_Bookshelf_Speakers/
Zeos (/r/Zeos) review: https://youtu.be/tCCNXl4I5U4
SlickDeals discussion on this deal: https://slickdeals.net/f/10208856-micca-bookshelf-speakers-pair-mb-42-51-or-mb42x-76-50-free-s-h
As /u/tielknight mentioned, the Micca MB42 is also discounted ($50.99 with the 'clipped' 15% off coupon - original price is $59.99): https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B009IUIV4A?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=aht
The MB42X has a crossover, while the MB42 doesn't (can be added on but you'd need to buy and install a separate upgrade).
You will have to get a receiver and with that budget, you will have to buy a refurbished receiver to get anything for your money. Amazon is selling a good yamaha 5.1 receiver below:
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-HTR-3066-R-5-1-Channel-Refurbished-Receiver/dp/B00IWURW6U/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1404937723&sr=8-10&keywords=yamaha+receiver
Then you can get a pair of bookshelf speakers to start:
http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404937847&sr=8-1&keywords=micca+speakers
This would be a pretty decent 2.0 setup. Over time you can purchase a subwoofer:
http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1404938019&sr=8-16&keywords=subwoofer
This whole setup can be expanded to a 3.1, 4.1, or 5.1 setup by purchasing another set (or 2 sets) of bookshelf speakers.
I've been SO happy with my Micca MB42x's powered by a SMSL SA60
Amazing sound for $170. Here is some help in setting up your PC equalizer.
TELEVISIONS
If you're into gaming the #1 thing to look for in a TV is low input lag
Here is a list of low lag TVs Looks like one of Sonys might be your best bet
AUDIO
Get a receiver.
SPEAKERS
http://www.amazon.com/Tripath-TPA3123-Stereo-Amplifier-Supply/dp/B008YBC172/
http://www.amazon.com/SMSL-TDA7492-Integrated-Tripath-Amplifier/dp/B00F0H8TOC/
http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
http://www.amazon.com/Mordaunt-Short-Alumni-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B0049APO8U
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-TSi100-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00192KF12
http://www.fluance.com/product/SX6_High_Definition_Two_way_Bookshelf_Loudspeakers.eng-12.html
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
http://www.amazon.com/Fostex-PMO-4-W-4-Inch-Personal-Speaker/dp/B00CYNT8XG
http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-Elevate-Speakers-Elliptical-Waveguide/dp/B00F3F7OIS
you should look around on /r/audiophile. Their lowest recommended setup are the Micca MB42X and the Muse M50. You can go cheaper on the amp but the speakers are the key part to a good listening experience. You're at $145 there. The LP120 has a built-in preamp so you won't need to worry about buying a separate one.
also if you haven't yet check out /r/zeos for his 2.0 and 2.1 recommendations located HERE
All those are if you want to go new. You can probably scour Craigslist or eBay and find some vintage stuff for a little cheaper, it's up to you.
SMSL SA50 ($67): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F0H8TOC/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_RthDDbDAZR43F
Micca MB42X ($79.95): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_UAhDDbJYN7S0D
Comes in right under your budget, and plenty of people on these forums have been happy with that setup (I have no experience personally with the amp or speakers).
Onkyo TX-NR676 - $339.00.
Polk T30 center channel - $89.99
Polk PSW10 10" subwoofer - $99.99
Polk T50 towers for the front speakers - $89.99 x2 = $179.98
Polk T15 Bookshelf speakers for the rear surrounds - $59.00 x2 = $118.00
Total: $824.98. Throw in ~$70 for sales tax and another $30-40 for audio cable and $5 for an HDMI cord. You can save $60 by switching the front towers for T15s.
The Onkyo can be expanded to 5.1.2 for Atmos, and supports DTS:X as well. 4K passthrough and it supports every audio format up through Atmos. It's a fantastic AVR, especially at that price.
EDIT: fixed link for T50 towers.
I can't tell if you are trolling or not.
Just in case you aren't trolling...
Don't fucking buy those speakers. Don't buy any speakers off craigslist unless you know SOMETHING about speakers. Just get some Dayton cheapies, save $12, and save yourself a lot of time dealing with craiglist scum and the silent smirks of anyone who knows anything who sees the speakers in your house.
None of the above.
At your price range don't expect much. Something like this will be much better than any of those though:
Amp, speakers. Then save some more money and buy this sub in the future. Not going to be a world better, but much better than what you posted.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Probably nicer than your speakers.
This was my exact budget! I ended up going with the Denon AVR-S510BT from Accessories4Less as my receiver. I got it for $130 (normally around ~$250). It can carry a 4k/HDCP2.2 signal and also has two subwoofer outs so I can upgrade to two subs and I will be using this for years in the future. Also has 5 channels so I can easily add a center/surrounds in the near future.
As for speakers, I went with Pioneer's Andrew Jones SP-FS52. I got them for $180 for the pair which is a steal because on Amazon they are going for $260 for the pair! They sound amazing and my receiver has no problem driving them.
And for the sub, I went with the trusty budget [BIC America F12](BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_oTmTyb9EG6AE1) which BUMPS, and is going for about $215 on Amazon at the moment. When placed right, this thing can hit the frequencies that makes your chest rumble and without being too loud.
Overall I spent exactly $525 (right in your budget!) and got myself an amazing sounding system to watch TV and movies, and the best part is there's so much room to upgrade! I can upgrade from 2.1 to 5.2 when I feel, and since the receiver carries 4k, I won't have to upgrade for a while.
Hope this helps!
So I am gonna try to answer your actual question, though PLEASE heed the advice of upgrading your system.
I looked at the AVR you have, and you will 100% without a doubt NEVER get 5.1 input to that device. It simply does not have an interface to accept any type of digital audio input.
So unfortunately it just isn't gonna happen in any way shape or form. No adapter, device, or otherwise will make it happen.
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Now that we have that cleared up, if you want 5.1, you do have options.
Your speakers look to be 6 Ohms, so you need an AVR that can support 6 Ohms, and you can use the exist speakers. Though you will need a subwoofer to replace the proprietary stuff.
I personally like my onkyo AVR, it has worked extremely well for me. This one is the upgraded model that supports Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, 4K, HDR10, and Dolby Vision.
So this will do so much more then your current setup.
https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR676-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B06XTYXH9M/
Just that single purchase alone will get you 90% of the way to a decent setup.
Combine that with something like a BIC F12, and you have a kicking theater setup that will honestly rival that of your actual local theater.
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/
$260 for those Miccas is borderline ridiculous. You can get much better speakers for less. I'd prefer either of the below for significantly less money:
Right now, you could get a Home for $109, and this Sonos 1 style Chromecast dock for $91.50, and a Chromecast Audio for $30.
That's about $230 before tax and shipping, and it's pretty simple. The CC fits in the dock with an included Toslink connector, and does auto-power on. Already multiroom, even though the Home is one room.
Or you could replace the dock with these powered bookshelf speakers for $120. (thanks r/BudgetAudiophile/) Still well under a Homepod, and now you have two good speakers, so far.
The cost difference would really run away if you tried to multiroom with the Homepod.
Not exactly sure how they compare but I've seen these speakers recommended a lot at this price point.
Micca PB42X Powered Bookshelf Speakers (Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_d82Nwb1YAVCNM
Good pair of simple powered monitors. Has 3.5mm input so you should be plug and play.
Something along the same lines would be the Micca Covo-S, but you need an amp for them (looks like the soundphonics have a built in amp in the larger speaker?). Amps can be had for cheap, but many cheap Chinese amps have a slight buzz in them whenever they're on. I don't spend any real time with super cheap speakers, so sadly I can't give any cheap amp recommendations. I had a Dayton DTA-1 on my Micca MB42X (bigger cousin to the Covo-S) and it was a weak amp, but loud enough, and no buzz. Lepai amps seem to be very hit or miss with their quality.
If you want something nicer, but a bit over $70, there's the Micca PB42X. I mentioned the MB42X, but those need an amp, whereas the PB42X has one built in. It's not a good or powerful amp, but being built in is handy if you don't plan on going for crazy quality. They aren't huge speakers -- about nine inches tall, or six inches if you lay them on their sides. IMO the best sound you can get for this price without scouting for crazy deals on hi-fi equipment.
But of course... if you happen to be outside of the US then I think that availability is pretty poor.
No, not those. For $100 the best you can do is the Micca PB42x.
Upgraded to a real turntable (to an Orbit) and such, and now I have no idea how to position or fit my speakers in my room. Here are a couple of additional images:
You can see, I have basically no room. My speakers are Micca PB42X powered speakers, and I have no idea how I can fit them in here. Help?
This + This
If you're starting from scratch I'd look for a receiver that has a phono-in. This input basically tells you that there's a phono pre-amp built in to the receiver. The one problem is, many new low-end receivers don't have this. Check this one
After that, I'd go for a Project Debut Carbon. A little more expensive than the LP120, but VASTLY superior in just about every way.
After the receiver and the TT, the only other thing you'll need is speakers.
As far as speakers, the ELAC B5s are great because they're pretty cheap and they've got a nice low-end so you won't need a subwoofer for movies (right away.)
Future upgrades could include:
I would rather get the 1280ts for $87.
https://www.amazon.ca/Edifier-R1280T-Bookshelf-Speakers-Monitors/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_3?crid=38AO6JDM9FYGI&keywords=r1280t&qid=1563292037&s=electronics&smid=A23AS8PFN4IRUQ&sprefix=r1%2Celectronics%2C214&sr=1-3
Sound comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TUDOZJSEi8
Have my 1280ts hooked up to my pc and an echo dot. Can be using them on the pc and get alexa going through speakers at the same time.
What about the Micca Covo-S?
Though you'd also need an amplifier with those. You could easily get by with a Lepai Amp though.
Here's an HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2 receiver that will work for your needs. I would choose these MB42X with the upgraded crossovers compared to the original MB42s as the upgrade provides a big improvement in sound for only $20 more. This is already over your budget but I'll keep going.
From there you can add the matching center and a subwoofer. All told this comes out to $557. The speaker preference means little to me as everyone has different opinions about speakers but I would not skimp on the subwoofer and the one that I chose is IMO the value leader when it comes to subs.
Alright, your TV has RCA outputs and the option of fixed or variable output through there. If you wanted you could just grab two JBL LSR305 and connect them with RCA to TRS cables. Probably $450 total but would sound much better than the miccas. Go into your TV audio settings and select variable audio out. This way you can change volume through your TV remote. Just set the amp on the back of the JBL speakers to 8 or so and never touch them again.
If you want to go the passive speaker route for upgradability then you can grab a stereo receiver like this Yamaha for $200. Just plug your TV in with RCA cables. This allows you to spend an extra $100 on speakers. You'll save even more money if you look through your local listings for a used receiver. If you like the Klipsch sound you can go for these. Otherwise look through your local listing for a good tower speaker that you can afford. I was going to recommend the Pioneer FS52 but a pair of those would go over your budget. You can try pairing them with a cheap SMSL amp, but I would be worried they would distort a tad early.
The best sounding setup out of the box would be the JBL LSR305, but it's also the least upgradeable setup.
I personally don't know much about the Micca MB42, but the Klipsch R-15M is $187 right now. the Klipsch R-14M is $170. I really like the sound of the Klipsch R-15M.
Take a look at this Micca Covo-S speakers. They are brand new this month. I've been surprised at the stereo imaging that they deliver for small little speaker (they disappear and the music sounds like it sourced from various spots between them.)
They are coaxial 2-way speakers (a little bigger than a softball). Such small cabinets/drivers aren't going to give you much at the low end, but add a small sub later.
As you build out your collection, they'll make decent rears in a small surround system too.
[Add-on: There are larger inexpensive speakers that perform better, but your comment about size make me think these are precisely what you are looking for]
If you can stretch that budget ever so slightly, the Micca PB42X looks like a winner for you. They're powered, don't need an amp.
EDIT: ahhh, didn't see the "live under the display" part. Maybe you could set them on their side?
have you looked at the Micca PB42X?
Haven't used either of those so I can't help you there.
I use the Micca MB42x for computers speakers and I love them.
They make a version with an amp built in too:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-PB42X-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00NXAEPDC/
If you can stretch just a little, get these + used portable CD player + 3.5mm to RCA adapter + RCA cable.
Passive: Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed 4" Compact 2-Way Bookshelf Speakers (Pair) + 16 AWG Speaker Wire 100ft + Brass Speaker Banana Plugs 5-Pair (open screw) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0751D212W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_mM5YBbK9ZHTR0
Powered: Micca PB42X Powered Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_FN5YBb6JH1QQE
go and get the self powered version of the speakers, the PB42x.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC
hook them up to your TV using an RCA connection
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D5H8P0G/
in your TVs menu, under audio settings, set the audio output to variable. voila, your TV remote controls the volume of the RCA outputs.
your done at around $130-140.
start saving for subwoofer. preferably one with high passed outputs. if you are fine with sticking to 2ch for the foreseeable future, you can skip the receiver.
Looks like a small Micca bookshelf speaker
First step: have you read noaudiophile's reviews? He does very thorough reviews on a lot of budget speakers, and has corrections for many of the popular options. His corrections for the Infinity P163s that I'm currently using made them sound like completely different speakers.
First let's start with powered options:
The Micca PB42X would be a good option. They are basically a powered version of the MB42X so you don't need to purchase a separate amp. Also in the similar realm that get recommended here a lot would be the Swans D1010 and the Edifier R1280T.
Personally I'm a bigger fan of passive speakers, as you get a lot more options to expand your system.
Pioneer BS22 bookshelf speakers are great and have gone on sale quite a bit lately for $70-80/pair.
Dayton B652 I am currently using as my surround speakers, but people rave about them as a budget desktop option
Micca MB42X also get great reviews.
You could also go used for your speakers, but sometimes it can be hard to parse through all the junk out there if you don't know what you're looking for.
Take any of those passive options and pair them up with an inexpensive amp like this SMSL or Lepai for a good budget setup.
I would also recommend checking your local Craigslist or Facebook marketplace for a used receiver, you could pick up a very decent one for just a few bucks and have a great starting setup. This will give you a lot more powerful amp, and the ability later to easily add a subwoofer or expand to surround sound. Personally I'm using an older Sony home theater receiver at my desk, it's old enough that it doesn't have HDMI or optical inputs, someone was just giving it away so I snagged it.
TV Samsung UN55KS8000 - $1,799.99 Reason why I am going w/ the 55 is most manufcaturers don;t really make 60's anymore. if they do they aren't the best of their models.
As for the sound system
Receiver: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv579bl/yamaha-rx-v579-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html#!specifications
bookshelfs https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06
center https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Center-Speaker-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQWE/
surrounds https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-AVBP2-Surround-Satellite-Speakers/dp/B00067OLOS/
subwoofer http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html
should put you right at $1500
you can go from the elac B6's down to the B5's to save $100
This is basically as good as it gets for compact speakers. I guess these are also pretty compact.
If you're into DIY, the Overnight Sensations are pretty small.
If you have $500 to throw around, I'd suggest getting rid of the "compact" requirement, buy some $50 speaker stands to put on the floor next to your desk, and get good, meaty bookshelfs e.g. KEF Q100, Vanatoo Transparent One, ELAC B6.
recent price drop. I don't own them
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSER6O/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1524491765&sr=1-1&keywords=elac+b5
There is simply nothing else that compares to the ELAC B5 or B6 bookshelf speakers designed by legendary speaker designer Andrew Jones. They are the best budget bookshelf speakers on the market by a pretty wide margin. Pair it with an inexpensive 2 channel amp and you've got a killer desktop system
http://www.amazon.com/Debut-Series-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew/dp/B014GSER6O
If you want to stay under your $200 budget Andrew Jones used to work for Pioneer too and his designs for budget speakers there will get you under budget including an AMP
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=pd_vtph_23_bs_t_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1CPPGTSD1YT7018PDPNJ
Same, I have to stop myself from buying more entry level headphones because it's a lot easier to financially justify buying an entry level pair then a mid - hifi pair.
Although I did just listen to Zeos again when he said that an entry 2.1 speaker setup is just as good / better than a mid to hfii pair of headphones which resulted in me buying the components for a 2.1 setup:
Yamaha R-S202BL Stereo Receiver
Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers
Dayton Audio SUB-1000 10-Inch 100 Watt Powered Subwoofer
I personally am more open to sound bars than many people here, I have one on all of my TVs except my main HT system.
That being said, if this is your main HT system I'd see if you can swing this:
Denon AVR-S530BT Refurb Receiver for $150:
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Pair of Micca MB42X speakers for $90:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H8GG2
Total = $240
If you absolutely can't go much above $200 then get the Dayton Audio B652-AIR speakers for $67 at the link below or get the above speakers used on Amazon for a little cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NOA58RS
The nice thing about the Micca's is they have a matching center channel (on the same Amazon page) that you could add later on to upgrade your system. And with that receiver you could eventually add a center, a sub, and 2 rear speakers for a full 5.1 surround setup. Even if you don't want anything more than 2.0 anytime soon it's best to give yourself options down the road in case you change your mind.
I dunno if its frowned on here but my #1 suggestion is craigslist. I've bought JBL northridge series, Fluance sx-6, Def Tech and klipsch bookshelves for $50 or less. I've also missed on out on quite a few deals for fantastic speakers $100 or less.
The only real suggestion I have for the price range is https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
How much better are these than the Micca MB42x's? I just bought them for the same price a week ago... Though the Micca's are smaller though for my desktop application.
Do NOT get any internal sound card!!! I can't say this enough. People kept telling me and I didn't listed. I bought 2 of the best sound cards and had to return them due to interference. Get a DAC like the Schiit Modi 2 (Modi 2 Amazon link) or Modi 2 Uber and save yourself the frustration and have much better sound.
For speakers, check out the JBL LSR305 (Amazon link) (Amazon link with cables) or if those are too expensive check out the Micca MB42X. They're both great speakers. I got the JBL LSR305 about 6 months ago and they sound amazing with my Schiit DAC. Check on eBay too. I got a brand new Schiit DAC for about half the regular price and they have used ones even cheaper.
I highly recommend that you get a pair of decent bookshelf speakers and a amp. It will blow away any cheap pair of basic computer speakers or expensive Logitech ones.
It may cost a bit up front, but you'll really enjoy the sound quality for listening to music, gaming, or just watch movies. If you want more options, head over to r/BudgetAudiophile
Edit: What's with the downvotes?? I have experience with this setup and it really is better than any cheap computer speakers...add in a subwoofer and it's awesome.
easier to just throw out a few recommendations. the OP can take them or leave them afterall.
on a tight budget it's hard to beat these Micca's.
a step up from there would be Fluance. They're nearly twice as large but also exceptional for the price.
I'd go with http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008NCD2LG over the polks.
I'd skip the sony sub as well.
This is a better sub choice in that range http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=8826112&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8826112&extensionType=%7Badtype%7D:%7Bnetwork%7D&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!%7Bkeyword%7D!%7Bmatchtype%7D!%7Badwords_producttargetid%7D!%7Bnetwork%7D!%7Bifmobile:M%7D!%7Bcreative%7D&kpid=8826112&k_clickid=0a0997f9-950e-57a8-4b68-000022505a80&gclid=CKKWoLzSproCFRQaOgodz2MAig&pid=1207352528930
If you must get a 2.1, then I suggest getting the Logitech Z623. It is good for gaming, but not great for music. You can pick it up at Best Buy or Amazon for $99
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Z623-Watt-Speaker-System/dp/B003VAHYTG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1540214631&sr=8-1&keywords=z623
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If you want good sound quality for music, then I suggest either of the following systems in your budget:
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Passive system:
Polk T15 Speakers - $70
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1540214644&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=polk+t15&psc=1
and
Lepai LP-2020TI Amp - $25
https://www.amazon.com/Lepai-LP-2020TI-Instruments-TPA3118-Amplifier/dp/B071FJF4FF/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1540214708&sr=8-1&keywords=lepai+lp2020ti
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Speaker wire & 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable
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Powered system:
Edifier R1280T Speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1540214772&sr=8-2&keywords=r1280t
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They're not even much of that anymore. about 1997-2007 marks kind of the decade where they did that. After that, they became mostly a marketing company that knows where to blow the right amount of hot air to get people to buy their (increasingly poorly-designed) products.
The iMac, iPod, and iPhone were all killer products that really were game changers and were much better than competing products at the time, but a lot of their recent stuff is kinda crap. A lot of it is simultaneously over- and under- engineered.
Take their MacBook Pro as an example. It certainly does take some skill at engineering to fit all of what is in there into something so small. But at the same time, any decent designer or engineer should have, at a certain point in the process, thrown up the stop sign and said:
> Woah! I know we're thin-obsessed right now, but what are we doing? This thing doesn't have adequate cooling for the CPUs we want to put in it, so people who pay to upgrade won't really be getting great performance boosts. We've eliminated all of the ports that people are used to and which they have peripherals for, and we haven't even put an adapter in. And we've also made a terrible, terrible keyboard that is the opposite of a joy to type on and which gets keys stuck down really easily. We also have really skimped on the battery compared to previous generations. Maybe we should step back and consider making it just a little thicker and making it a better overall product.
Or look at something like the HomePod. It's a $350 speaker with all this acoustic processing hoopla and like 8 or 9 speakers, with all it's "beamforming tweeters". But it's not even stereo, unless you buy a second one! I'm sure it's cool and all, but there's just no way that all that price and engineering gives appreciably better sound than even a $200 pair of bookshelf speakers (and probably not much better than a $100 pair like these, at least that 95%+ of people will notice), even if they don't form a bass-derived map of your room. And then, on top of that, anything that might make a smart speaker worth the extra price is pretty lackluster on the HomePod.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016P9HJIA/ref=psdcmw_3236451011_t1_B005SE6QBU
I have a weakness and it's factory refurbished speakers from the names I grew up with, which are JBL, Harman Kardon, Polk, etc.
Nothing on all these new Chinese brands, but I'm a sucker for nostalgia.
Anyways, if you decide it's worth the slight effort, you can get a $200 Bluetooth speaker for less than $50 now, made by Harman Kardon this is their Microsoft Cortana enabled speaker that nobody bought because it's Microsoft Cortana enabled.
Fortunately, you can pair it with the Peloton and have really good speakers for a decent price. This was a long time ago but I think j needed to setup Cortana with a Microsoft all on my phone then after it was activated, I asked Cortana to pair Bluetooth and added the Peloton.
Such a big difference in sound, and it's not portable but a plug in, so it's gonna have a good home next to the bike.
If you've got the space, I would love to recommend these Edifer Bluetooth Speakers.
With a decent set of mounts and wire organization, these speaker will really make a huge difference over the tinny, built in speakers.
LR: Elac Debut 2.0 6.2 bookshelfs
C: Elac Debut 2.0 6.2 center
Sub: Bic America F12 or Dayton Audio Sub-1200
AVR: Something here. Whatever fits your budget and has the features you need. Make sure that if you're going to be streaming music to get one that is at least wifi compatible or networking (ethernet jack). I personally can recommend the Yamaha RX-V483. If that Yamaha is too expensive then go with a Denon with comparable features.
Stands: (If you don't already have a surface to put your LR on) Monoprice monoliths (24inch or 28inch, depending on ear height at listening/watching position) or Monoprice glass
If the price comes out to be too much then go with the Dayton sub and a cheaper AVR.
You'll also need some speaker wire, a wire cutter, and possibly some silicone hemispheres
That is a 3.1 to start. I think you'll be very happy and impressed with it. Given some time and some saving you'll be ready to upgrade to some surrounds. Delayed gratification is always worth it in this game :)
Do you already have any speakers, or do you just crank your laptop up?
I do two-room audio using one of these amps and two pairs of these speakers--the amp will drive two speakers in parallel on each channel as long as they are 8-ohm speakers. Speaker wire is pretty cheap. I have a server connected to the amp and running Subsonic in jukebox mode for actually playing the music. That way, the server can live out of the way, and I can use the Android app to queue up songs to play.
One thing you could look at is using a wireless audio transmitter or something like the Squeezebox to separate your laptop from the party.
If you actually consider getting the Lepai amp, make sure that you buy it from Parts-Express, because some other sellers don't include the power supply, which is kind of annoying to realize after you receive the amp! Also, if you consider the Dayton speakers I posted, and you listen to electronic or hip-hop music with lots of bass, you'll probably want a separate subwoofer to get enough bass for parties (that is, if your neighbors don't kill you!)
Hmm I think this is a good game to play. I would like to open this up to everyone and have them comment on the exact model of what I have in my picture. I'll edit my post with the confirmation and links of what everything is. Clues: look at old version of my battle stations
Go!
Laptop: [Dell XPS 15 L521X] (http://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS-XPS15-9062sLV-15-Inch-Laptop/dp/B009FX7BWS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022233&sr=8-1&keywords=l521x) [System Specs] (http://i.imgur.com/x4VrjFg.png)
Laptop Stand: [Cooler Master Ergostand] (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-NotePal-ErgoStand-Adjustable/dp/B003GCQ1YI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022264&sr=8-2&keywords=cooler+master+ergostand)
Webcam: [Logitech C/B 910] (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-960-000683-B910-HD-Webcam/dp/B0040508OY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022290&sr=8-2&keywords=logitech+910)
Speakers: [2 pair of Dayton B652] (http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022347&sr=8-1&keywords=b652)
Keyboard: [CM Storm Trigger Black Switches] (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823129009)
Mouse: [Anker Gaming Mouse] (http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Programmable-Gaming-Cartridge-Switches/dp/B00CDINUTK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022458&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+5000+dpi)
USB Hub: [Anker 13 port USB 3.0 hub] (http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Aluminum-13-Port-Charging-VL812-B2/dp/B00GSLMTQ8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022483&sr=8-2&keywords=anker+10+port+hub)
Computer screens: [2 of LGE2242] (http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-EB2242T-BN-22-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B007XNRAQY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022508&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+e2242)
Monitor Mount: [Vivo Monitor Stand] (http://www.amazon.com/Monitor-Mount-Stand-Adjustable-Screens/dp/B009S750LA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022540&sr=8-1&keywords=vivo+stand)
Receiver: [JVC 703VBK] (http://i.imgur.com/LvoOg2x.jpg)
Hexagonal device: [Moto Stream] (http://www.amazon.com/Moto-Stream-Wireless-Music-Adapter/dp/B00L4VZZFE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022672&sr=8-1&keywords=moto+stream)
Subwoofer: [Yamaha YST-SW012] (http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YST-SW012-8-Inch-Front-Firing-Subwoofer/dp/B000TQ4D8K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1414023087&sr=1-1&keywords=yst+sw012)
Headphones: [Monoprice 108323] (http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-108323-Premium-Hi-Fi-Headphone/dp/B007SP2CO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414022699&sr=8-1&keywords=monoprice+headphones)
Hard drive: [Seagate 3TB expansion drive] (http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-Desktop-External-STBV3000100/dp/B00834SJU8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1414023141&sr=1-2&keywords=seagate+3tb)
Cased device on top of hard drive: [Raspberry Pi B] (http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-Model-512MB-Computer/dp/B00LPESRUK/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1414023042&sr=1-1&keywords=raspberry+pi)
Chair (this is a hard one): I forget
I own that receiver! WOW! I actually can help someone on the subreddit for once :3
I love it honestly. It was simple to set up, and also has a lot of holes for breathing so no overheat. You need a preamp though to use a turntable with it. My AT-LP60 has a built-in one so no need for me to have one. Bluetooth works great from my laptop and phone. Long-range as well. 2 Speaker Sets. Good Balance and you can adjust the treble and Bass if need be.
I bought these speakers with it and the cables connect fine. No need to order extra really.
Unless space is at a premium I would not recommend those speakers. 14 watts per channel is pretty low, and that 50 hz to 20 khz looks misleading based on some reviewer comments. I basically don't believe they will give an accurate frequency response unless the sound is very low. I have seen the following recommended here before:
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU
http://www.amazon.com/LP-2020A-Lepai-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368495289&sr=1-1&keywords=amp
Don't forget speaker wire: http://www.amazon.com/RCA-AH16100SR-16-Gauge-Speaker-Wire/dp/B0029HHIDY/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_y
And an audio cable: http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-MU3MMS-3-5mm-Stereo-Audio/dp/B004G3UK5C/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1368496306&sr=1-5&keywords=aux+audio+cable
I can't vouch for those myself, but I would be willing to bet that they will be much better than any "computer speakers" in a similar price range. I have cambridge soundworks model 6's which are over your budget but I can vouch for. Worth every penny. Everyone notices how nice the sound is immediately.
At a bit over $500 here is what I would do, all great quality items and allows for sequential upgrades down the line:
MMF 2.2 $299 https://www.musicdirect.com/turntables/music-hall-mmf-22-turntable
Sony reciever (with phono) $149 https://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH190-Stereo-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B078WFDR8D/
Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers $99 https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
I'd get more info on the speakers but seems like an okay deal at best to me.
The sub brand new is $100 right now - http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA
The receiver was an MRSP of only $250 brand new too.
Maybe look at this too : https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater/comments/3uxgx9/help_building_a_budget_speaker_setup_300/
The internet fully prepared me to be blown away by Magnepan MMGs, until I auditioned them in a dealer's dedicated listening room with nice NAD components. The bass (their one acknowledged shortcoming) actually exceeded my expectations, but everything else fell short. They sounded fine for the price and everything, but it wasn't a revelation. And while they did have that great open, airy quality when playing stripped-bare low-effort "audiophile" tracks, complex music sounded pretty lifeless.
But the MMGs weren't bad. Unlike the Amazon-reviewed king of budget subwoofers, the Polk PSW10. I bought one on sale to see what the hype was about. Below about 50Hz the port turbulence is actually louder than the bass it fails to produce. It is a shockingly bad sub.
Here's how I have my racing and desk space setup.
Sim Racing
Entire desk
I have my Rift sensor and my second monitor attached to two of these monitor mounts (https://amzn.com/B01AI2YGK4). Works very well for being able to adjust it both the sensor and monitor to swing from desk to racing mode. Just have to reset the view when you launch a game. The Rift cable runs under the desk from my computer to just above the trash can - so in desktop mode I bring the cable between the pedal brackets and the legs of the desk, and racing mode it runs along side the rig. I actually have two Rift cables, one by itself and another that is in a braided nylon sleeve with a USB extension for my Leapmotion. Switching is a little bit of a pain, but the nylon sleeve is way cleaner than the "weaved" solution that Leapmotion suggests.
On the left upright for the steering mount I have a button box mounted that controls a bunch of automated scripts for switching between the two setups - change audio devices, display modes, as well as a few Teamspeak functions. When racing I disable my larger 144hz monitor so I can isolate what I'm doing to a single monitor and don't have to worry about losing a program on the other monitor that I can't see from the 80/20 rig.
I just got the aluminum extrusion rig (Bosch Rexroth), which I got locally for about $100 less than what I would have paid for an equivalent 80/20 setup through ebay. I haven't really cleaned up the wiring of the extrusion rig yet as I am in the process of adding SimVibe to the mix, which the first round of hardware should be here today!
/u/ZeosPantera, any suggestions on a 'cheap-ish' amp setup to power 2 to 4 AuraSound Transducers, ideally all separate channels?
http://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372366682&sr=8-1&keywords=andrew+jones+pioneer
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F0H88SY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1462226856&sr=8-3&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=yamaha+receiver&dpPl=1&dpID=31LAAKCGZeL&ref=plSrch
That will get you going but I recommend you eventually take out the internal preamp and replace it with a decent external preamp such as http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000AJR482/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?qid=1462226963&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Phono+preamp&dpPl=1&dpID=41VPBILjagL&ref=plSrch
Assuming you don't need a receiver? I'd pick up 2 Chane bookshelf speakers and a BIC F12. If you don't like those speakers, you could also go with some HSU Research bookshelves too.
EDIT: Whoops, didn't notice you said you get 60% off of klipsch. In that case, pick up a couple RF-62's and the matching subwoofer, and you should be around that price range.
The Bic F12 is arguably the best sub in that price range but with a room that big you are going to need more than one sub to get full coverage. 14x30 is a good sized room.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382973964&sr=8-1&keywords=bic+f12
>Budget of around $200.
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>Will this do the job?
The subwoofer you linked? HELL NO.
For $200 the ONLY sub worth looking at is the BIC F12 https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
It still won't rock your room completely but it'll be light years better than the crappy Polk sub you have.
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> I'll be using this in addition to the Polk 8" sub.
Donate to good will. Don't bother using it ever again once you get a new sub.
I've had the BIC F12, for about 2 weeks now and it has been amazing. Extremely powerful and very clear. Should be right around your budget and it also looks like it has the inputs you need.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AED492BX4II6G&psc=1
If you're like me and lean more towards BUDGET than Audiophile, here's one.
Polk Audio T15 Bookshelf Speakers, Pair, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_19T9Bb1F7NB97
At that budget, I'd go with Denon 1400 and BIC F12 sub.
And if you want to add some speakers
You will be disappointed with that sub as it only goes down to 40 Hz. I'd look at the BIC F-12. It will get down to 25Hz and well within the budget.
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M People seem to like this one. I don't own it, but very nice for the money.
Edit: I know this is like $10 over your budget, but figured you could stretch it $10.
BIC America F12 for $183.45 I paid about $250 for it about 6 months ago.
There is a pretty good chance I have the same receiver as you.
This sub shakes my entire 1800sqft house. It gets uncomfortably loud with plenty of power to spare.
FYI, if your receiver is anything like mine, you will have to set the front channel speaker type to "small" in order to get output to the sub in a 2.1 configuration, or you will have to set the output mode to 5/7 channel stereo.
BIC America F-12 Subwoofer - ~225$ - http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
Enigma Paradox (modded Fostex T50RP by LFF) - ~500$ - http://enigmaticaudio.com/product/paradox/
(very flat, according to measurements... might be worth checking out)
Fostex TH500RP - ~330$ - http://slickdeals.net/f/8523927-fostex-th500rp-premium-rp-stereo-headphones-329-00-fs-se?src=catpagev2
(Yep. 330$ for open, Fostex, planar magnetic headphones.)
Mayflower Electronics ODAC+Objective2 (w/ RCA jacks) - ~330$ - https://www.mayflowerelectronics.com/shop/digital-to-analog-converters/desktop-objective2-with-odac/
Mayflower Electronics T50RP Version 1 Headphone - ~250$ - https://www.mayflowerelectronics.com/shop/headphones/fostex-t50rp-version-1/
(add the headband and version 3 pads)
Samson SR850 - ~50$ - http://www.amazon.com/Samson-SR850-Professional-Reference-Headphones/dp/B002LBSEQS
Samson SR950 - ~30$ - http://www.dealzon.com/deals/samson-sr950-headphones
Shure SRH840 - ~200$ - http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH840-Professional-Monitoring-Headphones/dp/B002DP8IEKShure SRH940 - ~230$ - http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH940-Professional-Reference-Headphones/dp/B004MTE7EK
Shure SRH1440 - ~260$ - http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH1440-Professional-Headphones-Black/dp/B0073P4ESO
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Thought these would be a good starting point on some new stuff.
Also, maybe consider using Equalizer APO to get the JBL LSR305's to match No Audiophile's settings, and maybe give us your review of those settings.
EDIT: Added prices to make it easier.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
I picked these up after I lot of research. I'm pretty happy with them. then I picked up a 10-20 dollar amplifier from craigslist and I was good to go. I also have the lp120
Fellow lepai owner here. I bought one with some Dayton Audio B652s to improve the sound out of a TV setup.
It's not bad for about $60, if you buy when the Dayton's are on sale.
The Lepai amp I bought does make a loud pop when we turn the TV on, and I'm not sure which device is at fault.
I've found the sound of the Dayton's to be on par with the Bose Soundlink Mini I have, though the Dayton's can get a bit louder without the bass bottoming out.
I would highly recommend the Micca bookshelf speakers
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009IUIV4A/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483218684&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=bookshelf+speakers&dpPl=1&dpID=515pxM5mGPL&ref=plSrch
Or the Dayton Audio bookshelf speakers
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002RMPHMU/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1483218684&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=bookshelf+speakers&dpPl=1&dpID=41h2GNNeZmL&ref=plSrch
With a small amp
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ULRFQ1A/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1483218848&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=turntable+amplifier&dpPl=1&dpID=41phZQk-zFL&ref=plSrch
I have used all of them with my Chromecast Audio. They sound great.
> Personally, I would like to see more aggressive moderation of the purchase advice thread to weed out users who clearly (i) have no interest in good sound quality, (ii) haven't read the thread's introductory comments or posting advice, and/or (iii) haven't done any preliminary research on Google, Amazon, Wikipedia, review websites, etc.
We can't police (i) for good reason. ToIP (Telepathy over IP) doesn't exist. I can't read the mind or intent of someone posting. Most of the time when people seemingly ask for the wrong thing, it's because of a lack of knowledge that leaves them completely stranded, even with a ton of web sites on their hands.
> Amazon [ … ] review websites
This thing here has an average rating of 4.3 stars, and so does this. A buyer without the required knowledge would think that these are equal in quality, just that the wooden thing costs more (especially after they've had to buy an amplifier as well). Both you and I know that one of these sucks way less than the other.
Yes, ideally, people should do their own research, but reviews and user reviews are a minefield laced with shit, and in that regard, we're probably much better suited to help. So, when someone asks for a $100 bluetooth speaker for home use, or wondering if they should buy the Z313, we can quickly tell them why they should avoid it.
(The best thing we could do here, is probably do a write up of what we will and won't recommend, and link it at the top of the purchase help thread)
well to start, those are crap speakers either way. two 3.5" woofers means they will have zero bass, which completely defeats the purpose of tower speakers
second, you screwed up by not doing proper research. most speakers (aka passive speakers) have wire terminals where you connect them to an amplifier
you can buy a cheap amp on Amazon for $20 which will work. but my honest recommendation is to sell those speakers for whatever you can get and getting these Dayton bookshelf speakers and this Lepai amp. it'll sound better than those 'towers' and take up less room. yes, it'll cost a bit more (depending on what you can sell the Monster towers for), but if you plan on listening to anything bass heavy, you'll appreciate the better quality speakers (note: yes I know the B652s don't measure anywhere near flat, but for a layman, they're a good first step)
We're gonna need your budget in order to help. But A 2.1 setup is definitley the way to go to upgrade ehar you have. Sell those. They are very popular. If you want strictly a computer speaker setup, a 2 channel amp is probably fine. My bestbuy has a really weak bookshelf speaker selection, but you probably at least have the pioneer andrew jones speakers. They are well reviewed. If you have a nice discount they might be a good idea. Also a simple rule is the bigger they are, the louder and lower they get.
/r/zeos has a good 2.1 guide and /r/budgetaudiophile has great extensive speaker recommendation list. If you want to really rock, the pioneers may not be ideal.
These yamaha are massive bangers to blow your face off.
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-6490-Bookshelf-Speakers-Finish/dp/B00018Q4GA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1421977443&sr=8-3&keywords=yamaha+speakers
2 of these would be good too. Smaller.
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-Two-way-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B0045NCB32/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421977463&sr=8-2&keywords=infinity+primus
Smsl amp http://www.amazon.com/SMSL-TDA7492-Integrated-Tripath-Amplifier/dp/B00F0H8TOC
Sub http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0015A8Y5M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1421962220&sr=8-1
But read through the the zeos guide and the sidebars.
You're not going to find low frequency response in a sub (no pun intended) $200 subwoofer. Low frequency response is the most expensive/challenging part of making a quality subwoofer.
Best bet is to find a 2nd hand SVS, HSU, or Rythmik subwoofer but there is this which is a decent balance.
If it were me and you really want to upgrade your sound now, but also want to have the ability for a full 5.1 sound later I'd check out craigslist. You can probably find an older 5.1 receiver for under $70. A quick look in my area brought up a few. A few months ago I sold a 12 year old Pioneer that still was great, but I wanted the ability to get music via my network/internet. I sold it for $60. Then I would look for 2 decent book shelf speakers that you would use for fronts now and later use them for rears. These are as low as they go according to camelizer https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1510803743&sr=1-3&keywords=polk+bookshelf+speakers&dpID=31bhM1nV3tL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch Then I'd get a sub https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1510803898&sr=1-3&keywords=polk+subwoofer&dpID=51JGYWW4N4L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
That would get you started and would kick the shit out of any 2.1 soundbar. So you'd be looking at $140 for the 2 speakers and sub and then w/e you could find on craigslist for an a/v receiver. If you can stretch your budget to about $300 you could grab this which is certified refurbished https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs510bt/denon-avr-s510bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
None of this is going to be wireless. IF you can stretch out to $400 you could get this receiver which I really like for the price: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx1300w/denon-avr-x1300w-7.2-ch-x-80-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html
Keep in mind you'll have to buy some speaker wire and a crimping/cutting tool. But yeah about $400 will get you a decent setup like Mtown said.
The best way to go about buying home theater equipment is to buy stuff that you'll use later. So if you have a soundbar now, I'd just use it and save up until you have enough for a decent refurbed 5.1 av receiver ~$250 and some bookshelf speakers ~50-100.
If you absolutely need a 2.1 soundbar. I bought a refurbed lg sh4 2.1 for about $130 on amazon. I believe they are more now. It's enough for a small room. I use it for my office and it's decent.
You can probably get better advice about starting up a ht system by searching r/hometheater.
I'm a noobie. The only speaker system I've had before is a [Logitech z623 Computer speakers] (https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/speaker-system-z623?crid=47) which was satisfactory until the subwoofer started rattling at high volumes and one of the speakers stopped working. I want to get a full set-up so I've been learning everything I can. I want a good set up for house parties, generally playing rap and electronic music. My budget is $250-500.
Willing to buy used, just always paranoid I'll buy something in bad shape.
These are the parts that I am currently contemplating buying:
Speakers -- I can't decide between tower or bookshelf. I have read that bookshelf speakers can be a better bang for your buck, so I would love some suggestions. Speakers are suppose to be the most important part of the set up so I've tried to pick out decent options, but very willing to go cheap if there are any good deals.
Bookshelf option:
Craigslist for Bookshelf
Tower options:
or the cheaper version
or dirt cheap option
Craiglist for Towers
Subwoofer:
This product seemed to be at a great price for its quality, so for now I think this is what I'm gonna get but very open to suggestions.
Craigslist for Subwoofers
Still doing research on DAC's, Amps and Receivers, probably just gonna go with a receiver for simplicity's sake.
EDIT: Wait can I just get these JBL LSR305 Professional Studio Monitor with the built in amps and then just have to buy a DAC? or would I still need a receiver if I wanted to add a subwoofer?
Yes, you will need a phono preamp with an Orbit Plus and your receiver. I recommend this one. It is very highly regarded in audiophile forums in its price range. I would not recommend going any cheaper.
That receiver and those speakers are perfectly adequate to get you started, both are considered good entry-level options. Pairing a subwoofer with those speakers will provide a marked increase in sound quality on the low-end. I would recommend doing so. I recommend this sub, as it is a fantastic value and will serve you very well.
Here is some information about hooking up a subwoofer to a stereo receiver that does not have a dedicated subwoofer output. Hint: just use speaker wire in the "B" terminals.
Looks like you have yourself a decent starter setup which should serve you well. Have fun.
EDIT: get your speakers off the damn floor. Either get some stands or a platform to isolate your turntable from vibrations caused by the speakers if you want to put them on top of your shelf (platform probably isn't terribly necessary with bookshelf speakers unless you play your music very loudly).
I paired them with this sub https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002KVQBA/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Case in point: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002KVQBA
Look at the star rating on that. I bought one back in 2012 based on the reviews and it was utterly terrible. It got loud enough (mostly chuffing/port noise) and nothing else- just the sloppiest, distorted, worst sounding bass I've ever heard.. to this day it blows my mind that it has such a good rating on Amazon. Serves as a perfect warning about why Amazon reviews are worthless for audio products.
Pioneer BS22
See if you can get a cheap enough but sturdy used stand and stand-mount it. And if you can place it 1-2 feet away from the back wall. It will make a big difference.
I cannot stress enough how absolutely terrible those speakers are. In my opinion they will ruin all your investment and effort. At the very least get the Micca MB42's instead. If you can go up a little more, the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR are great for the price.
Something like this amp and these speakers would probably work well.
Having a separate amp/speakers gives you more flexibility down the road with upgrades. Once you start going up the price chain with speakers, powered ones aren't really offered anymore.
If you have surround sound on your mind for the future, I would recommend getting passive (unpowered) speakers paired with a surround receiver. You can add the additional speakers and subwoofer as your budget allows.
For speakers I would suggest the Andrew Jones Pioneers, since Pioneer offers all the matching speakers for surround when you want to buy them.
For the receiver, I would go with this Denon since it has a phono preamp for your turntable in case it lacks one. You could go cheaper if your table has a phono preamp already.
Start with a 5.1 receiver and 2 speakers and add the other speakers later.
This
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxv383bl/yamaha-rx-v383-5.1-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Plus 1 pair of :
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
Or
https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-SX6-BK-Definition-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B00IEDL8EM
Or
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG
Or
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-MK402X-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B07TB1P7XJ
Or
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-Driver-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00O8YLMVA
But surround is for TV/Movies - most who have surround sound listen to music in 2 speaker stereo mode
If mostly Music you could get a 2 channel receiver and a pair of speakers or Powered speakers which don’t need a receiver
This with any of the speakers above
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH190-Stereo-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B078WFDR8D
Or powered speakers
https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Bookshelf-Amplifier-Turntable-Bluetooth/dp/B07CLDGXX1
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-Bookshelf-Subwoofer-Bluetooth-Wireless/dp/B077Y6PHKQ
Amp:
http://www.parts-express.com/lepai-lp-2020a-tripath-class-t-hi-fi-audio-mini-amplifier-with-power-supply--310-300?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla
Speakers:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&srs=3097377011&ie=UTF8&qid=1472956289&sr=8-1-catcorr&keywords=bookshelf+speakers
Wire:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-16-Gauge-Speaker-Wire-Feet/dp/B006LW0WDQ/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=aps&srs=3097377011&ie=UTF8&qid=1472956231&sr=8-2-catcorr&keywords=speaker+wire
Roughly $88 for the combo, excluding wire
edit* You'll also want one of these to connect to your computer:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=5597&gclid=CPrq4dXW9M4CFdQ2gQodeugApg
Surely my friend.
For those wondering what you'll need to get this setup, here's the other items I chose to purchase:
Table: Audio Technia 60 non blue tooth edition
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-LP60-Automatic-Belt-Drive-Turntable/dp/B002GYTPAE
Speakers:
Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Black, Pair)
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Speakers-With-4-Inch-Carbon-Fiber-Woofer-and-Silk-Dome-Tweeter-Black-Pair/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_txt?ie=UTF8
Speaker wire:
AmazonBasics 16-Gauge Speaker Wire - 100 Feet
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-16-Gauge-Speaker-Wire-100-Feet/dp/B006LW0W5Y/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_txt?ie=UTF8
Mini-Amplifier:
Seeduck Lepy lp 2020a Class-D Hi-Fi Audio Mini Amplifier with Power Supply Lepy Amplifier LP2020A
https://www.amazon.com/Seeduck-Lepy-lp-2020a-Class-D-Hi-Fi-Audio-Mini-Amplifier-with-Power-Supply-Lepy-Amplifier-LP2020A/dp/B01HRR5AWQ/ref=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_txt?ie=UTF8
It was about $230 all together from amazon.
Here's how I'd spend $3000:
AVR - Denon AVR-S910W $350
Subs - 2x SVS PB1000s $950
Mains - KEF Q100B $450
Center - [KEF Q200CB](http://www.amazon.com/KEF-Q200CB-Center - Channel-Loudspeaker/dp/B00CE3LGZY) $500
Surround/Rear - 2 Pairs Micca MB42X $180
Total: ~$2500. Enough left over for stands, cables, banana plugs if you want them, etc. That AVR supports Atmos and DTS X so you can substitute the rear surrounds for some ceiling speakers if you'd like.
do you like how klipsch horn tweeters sound? i personally cant stand them, as in at any sort of decent volume they hurt my ears. they are just so piercing to me. cant do it.
i would recommend these for a budget system, they are just great all around speakers for the price. i have these and have given them as gifts, and always happy with them. https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_3
the amp part of that klipsch deal does look pretty interesting though. and apparently its $500 on its own, making that $379 deal seem all the sweeter. if it had a dac i liked better (ess sabre too piercing for me, like horn tweeters, apparently my ears hate higher frequencies?) id prob buy that package just for the amp as it has some nice features.
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-PowerGate-Amplified-Wireless-Gateway/dp/B01N0A7PH5
if youre familiar with klipsch horn tweeters and like them id say that looks like a pretty good deal. the amp part alone is prob worth that $500 really.
Klipsch RF-82 II https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TE8OTRO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Ms3FDb12CF02E
Emotiva T0 https://emotiva.com/collections/loudspeakers/products/airmotiv-t0-pair
Pioneer SP-FS52 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2S4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Xq3FDbSYDV129
I would go with the Klipsch
Are you just looking for small speakers? Because these can be considered satellites by definition. I think people mistake compact speakers as satellites. Micca MB42X
Not OP but I can help you out here. Let's break this down by component:
Hope this helps. Higher quality audio equipment can be confusing and daunting, what with all the technical details, wide price ranges, parsing through all the marketing bullshit and the sometimes snobby attitudes of some "audiophiles". I wish you luck and feel free to ask me if you have any questions.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049P6OTI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0049P6OTI&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20
+
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009IUIV4A/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009IUIV4A&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwpuresimula-20
This is propably the best you are gonna get. In that pricerange, if you stick to needing a sub, you will not have anything that anyone here would recommend. If you don't care about that your best bet is to just listen to some systems at your local electronics dealer
The MB42's also got a 15% coupon on em : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B009IUIV4A?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=aht
This is the best you're going to get, from r/Zeos, "2.1 System Options/Ideas":
The cheapest possible 2.1 option will put you at $130:
If you ditch the sub and go for a 2.0 system, you can get it for $70. Both those options are without speaker cable though, which I'd recommend you get from monoprice for $15.
You can totally get both high quality TV and music audio over wireless for a reasonable price. Check out the Chromecast Audio or Apple Airport Express. Both will stream audio over wifi to any speaker setup you go with.
I only have experience with Apple's Airplay, but if you have a couple Apple devices, it's super simple to use and works really well. You can pick up and Airport Express for ~$20 used.
For example, a pair of Micca MB42x (I'd recommend the PB42x instead, but they seem to be out of stock), an SMSL SA-50 amp, and an airport/chromecast would be about the same as the lowest-end sonos setup, and sound a lot better. For your TV, you can use a receiver instead of the amp to switch between the Airport/Chromecast input and the TV input.
If your budget is bigger than that, then swap in a better pair of speakers. Your speakers determine 90% of the quality of your system, so spend the most on them, not expensive wireless solutions.
(this is very similar to how my house is set up, so let me know if you have any questions)
For $1500 all inclusive I'd personally ditch the Atmos up firing speakers for now and concentrate on the main soundstage and your subwoofer. Especially with wanting a quality setup. I'd go with Ascend Acoustics CBM- 170SE's as mains, a CMT-340SE as a center for $618 shipped. Then I'd go with a HSU VTF-1 MK3 for $451 shipped. That's $1069 for mains and a sub leaving you $431 left to budget an AV receiver and a pair of inexpensive side surrounds. If needed for the CBM-170SE's (as their not towers) these HiVi stands for $99 plus shipping are a quality speaker stand at a reasonable price per pair. Any inexpensive bookshelf can double as side surrounds like the Micca MB42X's for $89 shipped. For the receiver you can get a factory refurbished 2015 Denon X1200 7.2 channel receiver with a one year factory warranty for $320
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00NXAEPDC?th=1
No problem! If you're a bit new to the audiophile world this would do just fine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC No need for an amp, just power, speaker wire and plugging into the aux. The issue is that if you look to upgrade or expand in the future... you're very limited.
No worries! Nice setup though! If you ever think of it a nice set of powered bookshelf speakers like these: http://www.amazon.com/Micca-PB42X-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00NXAEPDC/
Would definitely improve your listening experience!
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-PB42X-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00NXAEPDC This is the powered version of the really popular MB42Xs.
Or go with the Klipsch 2.1 for $100 if you like heavy bass.
Sure they do
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-COVO-S-Compact-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00N8265I8
It'll be cheaper if you drop the .1 and just do a 2.0.
I am currently running the following desk space saving setup:
Micco Covo-S - $40
SMSL Mini5 - $60
I like the Mini5 because it also powers my headphones if want to use them.
It's better than the Logitech 2.1 system I used to use in college.
But you can get away with a cheaper amp to save some money. Also, if you want to upgrade to a surround sound setup the Covo-S will be good for rear channels.
I think you'll do better with some budget Micca speakers and a Denon S540BT. Please DON'T waste your money on that Yamaha sub. Don't get a sub for now and save up for a quality subwoofer that will likely outlive your speakers.
Here's my suggested list:
If you wanna go super budget, you could even just do 3 Micca OoO's for your front stage and it honestly wouldn't sound terrible.
They're terrible and that guy is an incompetent profiteer who earns money with amazon affiliate links. I can't tell you how many people come here with issues caused by his plain wrong guides, or unsatisfied with their purchase he recommended.
Low end Klipsch speakers sound like a megaphone as soon as you turn up the volume a little.
Our entry level recommendations are in the sticky. For the same price you can get a pair of Micca PB42Xs that are much better.
Hello Reddit,
I am looking to get started collecting vinyl and am saving up for a new turntable, amp & speakers. My total budget is $1,000. Below is currently what I have in mind, but I am open to suggestions:
Turntable:
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon
Open to vintage alternatives, but am still looking for quality
Receiver/Amplifier:
Yamaha A-S301
Onkyo A-9050
What I am looking for in a receiver is also the flexibility to hook up my TV to the speakers I'm buying. Let me know if you have any better recommendations.
Speakers
ELAC B6
Audioengine P4
I am really new to this stuff, but based on the research I have done I believe the choices listed above would be solid. I am leaning towards the ELAC Speakers, but the other parts of my system are very much undecided. Also, would I need a preamp for this set-up?
Here is a link to my local craigslist
Thanks for the help.
Elac B5
7.87" x 8.75" x 12.75"
>Not only do the B5's do the job, they do more than is expected and play low enough cleanly that a subwoofer is truly optional.
$229.98
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Swan D1010-IV
6.1'' x 8.5'' x 8.4''
>I cannot recommend the Swan D1010-IV speakers enough to cheap bastards looking for the best deal on the desktop, or audiophiles on a tight budget.
$69.00
Link to that? Is it this? - https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
How would those compare to those MB42x speakers that are listed in the recommendation wiki/sticky? How about compared to Fluance Signature Series? I'm building a 5.1 setup this Black Friday, wondering if this is a deal I should jump up. Goal is to keep it under $500 though.
Denon S640H - $200
Denon S540BT - $150
2.0
HSU HB-1 - $350 w/shipping
Elac Debut 2.0 6.2 - $280
Ascend CBM-170SE - $300
3.0
Infinity R152 - $140 & Infinity RC252 Center - $180
Wavecrest HVL-1 x3 - $240
A few different options. All of them will sound pretty different, but I think they all are at a good value. With the 2.0 setups you may consider what a matching center is going to cost.
That's a tough one. Have you thought about having the TV on the wall where the stairs are located? I assume that lighting would be an issue with that placement.
As for bookshelves these are just over 300 but I would recommend looking at HTD Level Threes: https://www.htd.com/Level-THREE-Bookshelf-Speakers
or
Chane a1.4s: https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/A1.4
for a little less Elac 6.2s:
https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1536259836&sr=1-11&keywords=elac+speakers
You would need a receiver with any of these options such as: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrs530bt/denon-avr-s530bt-5.2-ch-x-70-watts-bluetooth-a/v-receiver/1.html
Edifier R1280T Powered Bookshelf Speakers - 2.0 Active Near Field Monitors - Studio Monitor Speaker - Wooden Enclosure - 42 Watts RMS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_SiWbAbHM0GXW9
I've heard great things about these though I have no personal experience. Could always add a chromecast audio dongle if bluetooth ends up being a need.
Two in one night!?! Fuck me.....
LP60's are bottom of the line but sounds like you already know that and are going to move forward with it anyways.
I would give you shit about not posting ANY details about what you are looking for other than "speakers" but i'm too tired for that.
Just buy these and be done with it:
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1494646494&sr=1-2&keywords=edifier
They are powered, cheap, and a decent enough match for a cheap turntable. Don't use cheap computer speakers like so many other people do when they buy an LP60.
whatever you do, get rid of that player! NOW! I have the exact same one, and I have a bunch, i mean a bunch of old vintage records my cousin gave me, and some of my pre existing records were scratched cause of that thing. The tracking force recommended is 1-3-3.5 grams, that victrola is a 4-6.5 at the least, get rid of it, return it and buy am audio technica LP 60 and a pair of edifier speakers, this is the speaker (click here > speakers) and this is the turn table (click here >turntable ) have fun though
Here you go, man. This is a great setup, everything you need pretty simply, for about $350 total.
Fluance RT81 Elite High Fidelity Vinyl Turntable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F2EXIFM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8AQMDb93Q791M
Edifier R1280T Powered Bookshelf Speakers - 2.0 Active Near Field Monitors - Studio Monitor Speaker - Wooden Enclosure - 42 Watts RMS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_sBQMDbK9XHVG2
At $125CD you are really limited to PC branded solutions. You should probably check over in r/PCSound as well. These are probably your best bet;
https://www.amazon.ca/Edifier-R1280T-Bookshelf-Speakers-Monitors/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520687918&sr=8-3&keywords=edifier
Also, whereas there are some speakers that matter a tiny bit more or less depending on the type of music you listen to, good speakers are good speakers no matter what.
Here's the speakers I use with my CCA in my living room.
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA
They sound really good, and I can control the volume with my Harmony remote. It comes with a tiny remote, but I already had the Harmony hub so it was just easier that way, plus now I can control the volume with Alexa. These particular speakers have two aux-in ports, though I'm only using one with my CCA at the moment. Read the reviews on Amazon.
If your speakers have an AUX input, then I would think they're powered.
You have to plug those speakers into the wall for power, right?Nm, just saw that you're using a bluetooth speaker. (which is definitely powered) So you just need to grab an RCA<->3.5mm adapter for like $5 or $6.But I'd really recommend buying some real speakers. At the cheapest, look at some Edifiers for $100. From there, you could also look at Kanto, Micca, Klipsch, Polk, Audioengine, Dayton, Mackie, etc. Just search Amazon for "powered bookshelf speakers".
I'm pretty happy with my Edifier. Very good price / quality. 100$ for powered monitors.
I wish I could afford nicer speakesr, but unless you're an r/audiophile these [speakers] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016P9HJIA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1) are great!
Would This turntable and these speakers be a decent beginner setup for someone whose budget is around $400 and if not what would be better?
They're not bad for bookshelf speakers, people that care about it more than I do usually get a sub to go with them. But I'm satisfied
I have these speakers specifically. 2 inputs on the back. I have 1 going to my living room TV, and one to my record player.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016P9HJIA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
They work well.
If you have room to use two speakers where they can be separated apart, you will get better stereo sound. In that case, consider these https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI
Define CHEAP!?
These would be low cost quality speakers -
The Advantage is that they come with a Remote Control and in the case of the EDIFIER R2000DB, it has Bluetooth and a Digital Optical Input for connecting modern TVs.
Edifier R1700BT, Remote, Bluetooth - $149/pr -
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI
Edifier R2000DB, Remote, Bluetooth, Digital In - $249/pr -
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R2000DB-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B01CDU3IAI
NOTE: I correct the R2000DB link, it should work now.
Any chance he can handle a complete Stereo System?
Yamaha RS202, 100w/ch Stereo Receiver with Bluetooth - $129 - (back to $149 now)
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RS202/Yamaha-R-S202.html?tp=47041
The Amp has Bluetooth built-in.
Yamaha NS-6490, 8", 3-way Sealed Speakers - $130/pr -
https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-6490-Bookshelf-Speakers-Finish/dp/B00018Q4GA
FIIO DAC Optical/Coaxial - $20 -
https://www.amazon.com/D03K-Digital-Analog-Audio-Converter/dp/B009346RSS
That is a very substantial system with 100w/ch and 8" Speakers. You simply can not do better than that in new equipment for a modest $280.
Not sure what your budget is, but I think the Edifiers sound and look fantastic for the money.
Edifier R1700BT Bluetooth Bookshelf Speakers - Active Near-Field Studio Monitors - Powered Speakers 2.0 Setup Wooden Enclosure - 66w RMS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016PATXSI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_In6zCbYZ99RMY
The [R1700BT] (https://www.amazon.ca/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3E1RWE3CW4J5X&amp;keywords=edifier&amp;qid=1567351226&amp;s=gateway&amp;smid=A23AS8PFN4IRUQ&amp;sprefix=edifier%2Caps%2C151&amp;sr=8-4) and R1850DB are also on sale for $153 and $167 respectively.
Not quite as good as the Prime day sale, but still seems like a decent price.
Edifier R1700BT Bluetooth Bookshelf Speakers - Active Near-Field Studio Monitors - Powered Speakers 2.0 Setup Wooden Enclosure - 66w RMS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016PATXSI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8iz3DbZGR5WKY
These were my first speakers and I think they are pretty good, the tone controls are nice but the electronic volume is kinda weird.
They look like Edifier knock-offs to me. I wouldn't consider these "nice" speakers by any means. I also wouldn't really consider edifier as "nice" speakers, but they're getting there, and now offer some higher end stuff.
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016PATXSI/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=edifier&qid=1572451228&sr=8-6
I bought the Edifer R1700 bookshelf speakers about two months ago and I am 100% satisfied. I use them as speakers for my projector mostly, but I also use them paired up with a Chromecast Audio to listen to music.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016PATXSI/ref=sxts_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1499714147&amp;sr=1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
I second Prodigy’s Edifier call. My kid just moved into the dorm with them, and I got to listen here at home for a bit before. They are QUITE good and you don’t have much room in that budget. You will need to isolate them by setting them on foam or something soft, they are pretty powerful and do cause vibration. Edifier on Amazon
Je magasine depuis deux jours un cadeau commun pour ma blonde et moi: un p'tit set de speaker pis un tourne-disque. À la base on s'était donné un petit budget de 300$. J'ai pas de système de son et je veux pouvoir écouter de la musique sur qqch de mieux que les speaker de ma télé.
Pour l'instant, ce que j'ai en tête, c'est les speakers Edifier R1280T et le tourne-disque Fluance RT80. Si y'en a qui s'y connaisse, est-ce que ce serait un bon set-up pour cette gamme de prix? Mon but étant d'avoir la meilleure qualité du son, les gadgets (genre prise USB / Bluetooth) ne m'intéressant pas. La durabilité du produit est aussi un critère, évidemment.
What's your budget?
Even a cheap pair of bookshelf speakers will be a huge improvement over the TV's internal speaker. Makes films and gaming so much more enjoyable.
The Edifier R1280T are really good for $100.
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA
> It's a condenser. Most Dynamics require XLR input and a separate audio interface, but recently there are ones that use USB.
>You might want something like this Audiotechnica Dynamic Mic + USB interface built in or this microphone by Samson
My post above has links to two Dynamic microphones with USB inputs, but there are probably more out there.
As for speakers for super budget, used logitech x230s. For a bit higher, I'd look into Edifiers like these
There's been a bunch of deals on Edifiers recently (check slickdeals) and I'm unsure how often they usually have sales.
Edifier R1280T Bookshelf Speakers
Edifier R1280T
or Micca MB42 if you already own an amplifier.
You don't often see speakers here because the shipping costs are so high. I can personally recommend you
https://smile.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA
These are fantastic speakers for the price in my opinion.
That's not a great table. I'd maybe consider putting money into an upgraded turntable before you invest more in speakers. But for $100, I'd suggest these: https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA
Edifier R1280T Powered Bookshelf Speakers https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_K5ARBbPZE8J7F
Edifier stuff gets love in budget ranges, the R1280T should fit your needs. The included 3.5mm to RCA cable should go from your Fulla 2 to the speakers, the Edifiers come with basically anything you'll need.
You need either an amplifier and some passive speakers:
https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Audio-R-S202BL-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B01EMQI2CU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1537714163&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=yamaha+rs202bl+stereo+receiver
and:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Amplifier-Turntable/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1537714213&amp;sr=8-8&amp;keywords=bookshelf+speaker
or some powered speakers:
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1537714213&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;keywords=bookshelf+speaker&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A23AS8PFN4IRUQ
Logitech makes a lot of cheap crap and some of their speakers have fake components as well. There are a few things they make that aren't bad though from what I've heard.
Powered studio monitors is typically what people get for this setup - check out Edifier as well
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=powered+studio+monitor&amp;qid=1556028525&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-7
They look like [Edifier 1280T's] (https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=edifier+1280t&amp;qid=1570065040&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1) with the cover off.
Well I would suggest the Denon AVR-S530BT for a receiver at $140 and then probably stick to a 2.1, 3.0 or 3.1 and build it up slowly. The ELAC b6.2 are on a great sale for $150 right now and the center for $170, they get recommended a lot and are a great value with the sale. That doesn't leave much for a sub though. Typically the cheapest sub that gets recommended are the daytons, the 10 inch one runs about $100. Whatever speakers you look at make sure they are front ported so you can wall mount them
The BT ones are also for sale $113.74
https://www.amazon.ca/Edifier-R1280DB-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B0719C132V/
For the set you aren't planning to move, I'd recommend these: Edifier R1280DB
They look nice, are well regarded here, and are a pair of speakers so you get a proper stereo sound (unlike an all-in-one portable bluetooth speaker). They should sound better than most portable speakers because they're able to be a bit bigger and aren't packed with batteries (speakers need a bit of empty space inside them to sound good).
You can also hook up other audio inputs to them, so you can hook up a Spotify compatible device and use that to stream more easily. That way you don't have the issue of the bluetooth connection dying if you move your phone too far away. You could also hook them up to a TV, CD player or certain turntables.
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For the speaker you're planning on moving around, maybe ask the question at /r/Bluetooth_Speakers? They'll probably give you better answers than you'll see here.
Edifier R1280DB Bookshelf Speakers. I’ll vouch for them, they’re pretty good.
Link:
Edifier R1280DB Powered Bluetooth Bookshelf Speakers - Optical Input - Wireless Studio Monitors - 4 Inch Near Field Speaker - 42w RMS - Wood Grain (Wood) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0719C132V?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
No worries, this just means a 2.1 or 3.1 is perfect for now, and then you can add on later.
Option 1:
2x RSL CG3 Bookshelf @ $135 = $270
1x RSL Speedwoofer 10s (sold out until Oct) @ $400
1x Denon AVR-X3500H 7.2-Ch x 105 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $500
Total: $1170
Less of a budget stretcher, giving up a bit of performance. That receiver is realistically future proof (supports 7.2, 4k) and wouldn't need to upgrade for quite some time. More clear upgrade path however. In this scenario, when you want to upgrade, you get 3x RSL CG23s to be your new front speakers and move the CG3 you already own to the sides as your surrounds.
Option 2:
2x ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers @ $300 (comes in a pair)
1x Bic Acoustech PL-200 II Subwoofer @ $300
1x Denon AVR-X3500H 7.2-Ch x 105 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $500
Total: $1100
About the same as option 1, and would come down to preference to RSL vs Elac (if you can demo Elac at a store, please do, RSL is internet direct only but does have in home trail). Similarly easy upgrade path, you'd just fill it out with the rest of the Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 lineup (ie center, they even have some on walls for surrounds).
Option 3:
2x RSL CG23 @ $200 = $400
1x RSL Speedwoofer 10s (sold out until Oct) @ $400
1x Denon AVR-X3500H 7.2-Ch x 105 Watts A/V Receiver from Accessories4Less @ $500
Total: $1300
This requires a budget stretch, but gets you great stereo performance with a clear upgrade path. For speaker upgrade, you add the 3rd RSL CG23 for your center (these can be used horizontally or vertically FYI), and then whatever you want for surrounds (either the RSL CG3 or an on wall, ect)
Based on these numbers you can see you have about $300 for the speakers, so any speakers you can get for $150 each would work here. Other options are Fluance Signature Series HiFi ($200 for pair), Jamo S 803 ($160 for pair), or Q Acoustics 3020i Bookshelf ($300 for pair). I haven't heard any of these, but they get good reviews (particularly the Q Acoustics).
You could always go less on the receiver, but then you might have to buy a new one later. Would be nearly impossible to go lower on the subwoofer, the BIC and the RSL Speedwoofer are about as good as it gets for that price.
Finally, since you are primarily music focused, you could always axe the subwoofer altogether (add it later) and spend ~$600 on 2 kickass (maybe tower) speakers as music doesn't need as much super low bass as movies do. Let me know if you want to see what that looks like.
Yep. Direct link here. Decent deal if you want to buy now and I do recommend them. When they get enough stock I actually got a 'like new' pair for $30. They came brand new, wrapping still on them. I think it was returned because there was a dent in the box ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
From the thread, the Micca MB42s. Or scout out your local Craigslist.
Hey, I was going to purchase the Audio Technica LP60 this week but was told that it does not have an adjustable counter weight and is known to skip. I have a budget of about $200 for a record player and new speakers. I was directed that buying a vintage record player may be a good idea and found this one on ebay. My first question is: Is the record player I found a good idea to buy? My second question is: I want to get these speakers. Do I need to buy anything else to get them to work with the vintage record player? Thank you in advance.
Edit: So while I was waiting for a reply, I started going through the guides on this subreddit. So I have a new question: what preamp/ whatever else I need should I get that won't cost insane amounts of money?
Hey all,
Considering buying desktop speakers to replace my harmon kardon sound sticks for my PC.
So far i've narrowed it down to 2 sets. I already have a desktop amp and all so i'm good there...i hope...
My options are,
Pioneer SP-BS21-LR 80-Watts RMS 2-Way Speakers http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MEWZE4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=center-2&amp;pf_rd_r=18V7A25BWVMGD5B34BG6&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=1688200382&amp;pf_rd_i=507846
or...
Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers with 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009IUIV4A/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=center-2&amp;pf_rd_r=18V7A25BWVMGD5B34BG6&amp;pf_rd_t=101&amp;pf_rd_p=1688200382&amp;pf_rd_i=507846
I mostly listen to Electronic music with the occasional hip hop. I also play games quite a bit and watch movies. This set up would be for my computer in my bedroom.
Additional equipment i have currently is the Aune T1 with the Bravo V2...maybe V3...
Thanks in advance!
Any other suggestions welcome but i'm hoping to stay around $50 for the speakers.
$125 CAD? So ~$97 USD? Are you looking for powered speakers, or passive speakers with an amplifier? Here’s an option within your price range.
I would love to!
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For the amp I am using the SMSL Q5 Pro as linked by /u/Hercusleaze and I am very happy with it. I bought it especially for the optical input and remote control to use with my xbox alongside my PC. A very good feature is a dedicated sub out, really makes adding a sub simple.
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If you dont need all the fancy DAC built in I would highly recommend the SMSL SA36A, SA50, or SA98 depending on the power you want (this depends on how loud you want to get and what your speakers need).
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For speakers I am using a pair of Micca MB42X-C in 2.0, although I got them for half off. Most people recommend Micca MB42X, a very solid all rounder at a good entry price. I set my brother with the Fluance SX-6 speakers, and he is really happy with them although they are bass heavy.
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These options are solid entry level gear, and for myself I havent needed/felt like upgrading further. If you are looking for something a bit higher end I would suggest checking out the /r/Zeos guide lists or make a dedicated thread!
this is the classic recommendation, Miccas and a T-amp, with you budget a nicer smsl-sa60 can be had
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2?ie=UTF8&amp;*Version*=1&amp;*entries*=0
And this:
https://www.amazon.com/Lepy-LP-2024A-Hi-Fi-Audio-Amplifier/dp/B00SASSY7A/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468442926&amp;sr=1-2
This setup is recommended by /r/audiophile as the best speakers on a really tight budget. Here's a good review of the speakers and if you're interested, instructions on how to set up a system-wide eq that balances them even more.
Outside of going used and assuming you're going to order today, these Miccas are consistently recommended on this sub. Your budget would also have room to add the center now, and doing so while configuring everything properly is the best bet to achieve dialogue clarity. These guys are listed as 75 watts and your amp is 100 in stereo, so that could be bad if you're cranking them up.
These Polk RTi A1s will max your budget at their sale price, but they're larger and would be a better fit for your amp. You have some finish options with them as well. If you're OK with refurbished, A4L has the same model for $130.
Lastly, these BA bookshelfs come in just under your max. It's new old stock because the company is no longer producing speakers, but they're from a respected (while in business) company and have better specs than the speakers above.
That's totally fine. They're Micca MB42-x's
I definitely recommend the speakers, but not the amp. (it gets pretty fuzzy at mildly loud volume)
If you are in the market for a projection setup for your home theater, you should not be skimping on audio as much as you are. Don't bother with either of those systems you linked. They are bottom of the barrel systems with no way to upgrade in the future.
Your budget should really be more than $200-$300 for audio when you are putting together a projection home theater (or any home theater for that matter). You may want a decent receiver for about $200. And some of the cheapest speakers we would recommend would run you about $80 a pair. Maybe these or these for speakers. Add the matching center channel for either and you would be set. I would factor in another $100-$200 for a subwoofer if you want something decent.
If you can't increase you budget enough for all of that, we normally suggest to start off with a 2.0 system (2 speakers and the receiver) then expand as you get more funds.
Your friend sounds like he is just describing surround sound, there is no such thing as "3D" sound, just video.
Hopefully this helps!
Samson makes some desktop monitors that feature bluetooth input. I haven't really seen any reviews for them yet. The MediaOne
Take a look at reviews for those and get at least the 4" ones. I can't expect the 3" ones would have much bass response.
Everything else listed lacks bluetooth, but you could add a standalone bluetooth reciever to any of them.
The M-Audio AV-40s get good reviews, and the Wirecutter calls them the best computer speakers.
Those are active monitors. They will be good for near field, and the amp inside them is designed with the speakers.
If you go passive plus amp you can upgrade components down the road. Maybe get the Micca MB42X and a Topping TP20, or find a good reciever (70s Kenwood, Pioneer, Marantz, Teac, Technics, etc. are great) for super cheap (0-$20) at a yard sale or thrift store or craigslist and get the Panasonic SP-BS22
For 300 you might be better off buying LCR and a receiver then adding a sub and surrounds later.
You can probably do something like this:
That's $20 over your budget but Denon receivers are fantastic and honestly those Micca speakers are a great start.
When you're ready to upgrade you can buy cheap surrounds for around $50 (you don't need killer speakers for surrounds) and a cheap sub like a $99 10" Dayton Audio Sub-1000 or $149 for a 12" Dayton Audio Sub-1200.
I've been using a pair of Micca MB42X for about a year now and love them. Paired them with a Monoprice subwoofer recently and love the results.
Micca MB42X: https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524519301&amp;sr=1-1-spons&amp;keywords=micca+mb42x&amp;psc=1
Monoprice Sub: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=9723
If you don't have an amp/reciever and just want two speakers to slap on your desk and be done with it, they make a self powered model as well. It will accept the AUX signal straight out of your PC so all you'd need is a 3.5mm cable and you're good to go!
Micca PB42X: https://www.amazon.com/Micca-PB42X-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00NXAEPDC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524518984&amp;sr=1-1-spons&amp;keywords=micca+pb42x&amp;psc=1
$80 isn't going to get you anything that will blow you away, but will get you something that's a good starting point and will sound better than the built-in speakers in any monitor.
Check out Steve Guttenberg's review of the Lepai LP2020TI and Dayton B652-Air. He raved about it as an awesome $88 beginner audiophile's delight. Actually cheaper than that right now, since you can get the 2020TI for $19.99 and the B652-Airs for $44.99 on Parts-Express right now. Even if you pay shipping, that should come out to under $80.
Or, if you can stretch your budget just a bit, you can get the Micca MB42x's for $79.95 from Amazon, then throw in that $20 2020TI for the amp.
Otherwise, look around for second-hand (thrift stores, Craigslist, LetGo, etc.) and find something within your budget. Probably best to stay away from all the typical "PC" speakers like the logitech sets that come with very cheap, cost-cutting speakers and sub.
These have been getting some good user reviews lately and a nice price too, and a pretty small cabinet for a 6.5 inch woofer, 79.99 / pair: 2 Pack 6.5" Bookshelf Home Theater Speakers 100W RMS TP160S-CH DCM by MTX Audio
As for amp's I have two of these (on two different computer systems), Dayton Audio APA 150. This is a serious Class A/B design topology, but no frills, just a well built, serious, "old school" heavy amp. No remote, no DAC, no Bluetooth, but WOW, a really nice, serious, amp! Lots of good user reviews and recommendations all over the net.
A often recommended smaller digital amp S.M.S.L AD18. This one DOES have it all, remote, DAC, bluetooth, relatively small, great reviews all over the net.
If you are really on a budget, try something similar to Lepai LP-2020TI Digital Hi-Fi Audio Mini Class D Stereo Amplifier. Do some searches for tweaking this amp, a very simple way to improve this amp, is to buy a more powerful power brick. There are many versions of this type of amp, amazon, ebay, parts-express, look around.
The other two, often recommended, "great value" speakers that work well with a computer (but you will need an amp), are the Sony SSCS5 3-Way 3-Driver Bookshelf Speaker System (Pair). I have seen these on sale for well under 100/pair, from memory, in the 60's and 70's.
Another great value is the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers(7-1/8” x 12-9/16” x 8-7/16” & weighs 9 lbs 2 oz). Again, search around, these do go on sale for well under 100.00.
I have both the Pioneer and the Sony, and I currently am using the Sony SSCS5 with the Dayton Audio Amp. Was temped to buy the DCM, but I have to stop buying "great value" speakers. If I ever want to upgrade my computer speakers, I should save up and buy the Ascend Audio Luna Reference Ribbon Mini-Monitor.
Good luck, have fun, and Enjoy!
I'm on a tighter budget than you, but I just set up a nice little system with a SMSL SA50 50Wx2 TDA7492 Class D Amplifier and a set of Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers without a sub. Add a sub to that you'll have a nice sounding set-up under budget that should last you well beyond your time at college.
In addition to this subreddit, here's what I used for guidance:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/66ylk9/guide_speakers_2021_desktoproom_systems/
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/AverageJoeAudiophile/comments/3uoksp/i_have_xxxxx_to_spend_what_should_i_buy_bookshelf/
For considering which sub you want:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AverageJoeAudiophile/comments/3w9tdw/i_have_xxxxx_to_spend_what_should_i_buy_subwoofers/
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/5b1u99/guide_subwoofers/
If you sign up for promo codes for Fry's and check every Sunday, the SP-BS22-LR Pioneer's can be had for $62 as they seem to go on sale around once a month. Actually if you can get a promo code from someone today, you can order them this evening at that price. Even at $129, they're considered a good value.
Pricewise you'd be looking at: $62 Pioneer SP-BS22-LR + $69 SMSL SA50 + $180 for the ELAC S10 or something comparable + $30 for speaker wire, plugs and cables to connect to your source and $341 total
This will be plenty loud to fill any dorm room (and drive your neighbors crazy if you're not careful) with much better sound quality than a soundbar or a 2.1 system like a Klipsch Promedia 2.1.
As for the bluetooth, buy a separate bluetooth adapter. You'll have more utility that way rather than buying one that's integrated into your receiver or amp. This way you'll only need to upgrade your bluetooth receiver when bluetooth is inevitably upgraded in the next few years. Your receiver and speakers can last you decades.
I finally found a console table worth sharing with you guys.
I moved to a new place back in March and I haven't had anywhere to set up my turntable. I convinced my boyfriend that this wall was lonely and (since it's in our living room) it would totally get a lot of use. I know my collection isn't super huge, but it's great for me at the moment. I'm planning on actually plugging it all in this weekend at some point when I have more time, since this was the final piece of the "we have too many devices in our living room" puzzle.
Got the furniture from Etsy. Super smooth transaction, great shipping. It's all made by hand and I can't recommend it more. It's literally perfect for our space (the shop owner even customized the length for me). I'm in love with it.
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A few options:
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Signature-S15-Bookshelf/dp/B01LVWWZS0
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
Best if you can spring in $30 for the Polks.
Neither will disappoint though.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1451105169&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=pioneer+speakers
The TriTrix is popular because it can be built in different configurations. The sealed enclosure is good for a center channel, but you'll probably want the vented or transmission line enclosure for your main speakers, depending on what you have space for. I'm not sure what the frequency response of the sealed design is though, so it might be fine for LR when paired with a subwoofer.
I'd probably start with a pair of overnight sensations and then see where that gets you. They're pretty cheap and easy to build, so you're not really risking anything. You can then read about how they compare to other designs to get a better idea of what some of those other kits sound like.
But at that price it's hard to recommend anything other than the Pioneer BS22. They're excellent speakers, and no DIY kit can compete with Pioneer's economy of scale. There's also a tremendous number of used speakers you can get for under $100, and depending on your luck it's often the best option for a low budget.
Amps like the following could be used. Keep in mind that they don't have remotes.
http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-AMP-100-Stereo-Power-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6/ref=lp_281053_1_18?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381948567&amp;sr=1-18
http://www.amazon.com/Topping-TP21-Digital-Amplifier-Headphone/dp/B005CRLZGE/ref=sr_1_151?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381948811&amp;sr=1-151
When it comes to speakers, you could go with options like the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381949940&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=micca+mb42
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1381949940&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=micca+mb42
just check the sb22 on amazon is 90 is this the right one?
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=pioneer+sb22&qid=1554771557&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Take a look at the C and D class in Stereophile's Recommended Components of 2014. Also these.
[You might like these too] (https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B009IUIV4A).
Of course, I found a pair for $5 at goodwill but if I'd knew before hand on amazon I would probably still buy these bad boys.
Well, it's not quality, and it's not wireless, but it's what I have currently hooked up to my TV: a pair of Micca MB42's and a Pyle PCA3 amp, right around $110 for both. It's acceptable for what I paid for it, leaps and bounds better than the built in sound on the TV or most speakers marketed for computers.
At that price point you're going to have to accept some pretty severe compromises. You could spend $100 on a Jawbone or something like it, and have wireless (but not that great) sound, or spend about $100 on a setup as above and have decent quality sound, and no wireless.
BTW, I've owned the Klipsch Promedia 2.1's and the M-Audio AV30s, both have had some built in components fail at some point. Hence the recommendation.
Till I'm ready to drop about a grand or more on HT audio equipment, my little setup will do me just fine.
Ok... well... you have a very limited budget for something even "budget" audiophile grade. That being said, if you can get your hands on a used/hand me down amp... take a look at these.
Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers
I would ask friends/family if they have an old stereo amp or surround sound amp they would be willing to give you. From there your next purchase would be an amp.
Zeos review of Micca's
Centers are most often way more important than surrounds. They produce the dialogue in movies, which is kinda pretty important. Surrounds cover the background sounds, which is less important. My advise is to invest in a matching center, cuz it's going to make a difference for movie-watching.
Here's a few links to check out
CV center $129 Cerwin Vega SL25C SL Series Dual Center Channel Speaker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LGZSTNI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_K9C0xbAB24A9F
Micca bookshelfs $59 Micca MB42 Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Black, Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_V-C0xbF8Y3Z4S
I got them off amazon. Pretty cheap. They actually have a mesh grill on them. I just took them off. Link
I would just get a reasonably priced used surround sound receiver from Craigslist and then add a center channel speaker and left and right front speakers. Most of the voices will come from the center channel and you will be able to hear them really well.
The Micca speakers would do quite well and be cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-C-Channel-Speaker-Tweeter/dp/B00HH2GINM/
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Amplifier-Turntable/dp/B009IUIV4A/
I wouldn't get the Lepai amp. Get something used. Personally, I would get something old, like if you could find an old pioneer or a technics receiver at a yard sale or something, you would be set. I don't know why these are unavailable right now, but I've heard good things about these speakers http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=pd_cp_e_0 And also, I would find a used turntable for sure. Usually, it's very easy to find a nice one. You may want to replace the stylus though.
If I were building a $1500 system for audio here's what I'd do (if DIY wasn't an option):
AVR- Denon X1400 AVR - $330 refurb
LCR- 3x KEF Q100 - $480
or Emotiva B1 pair + C1 center $550
surrounds- something cheap - $70
sub- HSU VTF-2 MK5 - $607
you'd need to stretch a bit for room treatment, wiring, stands, etc.
If you are willing to spend a little more you can pick up a cheap 2.0 digital amp off amazon and get some small bookshelf speakers like you were saying.
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480922309&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=bookshelf+speaker
https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-SA-36A-TPA3118D2-Amplifier-Black/dp/B017W13OR0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1480922292&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=smsl
Although this cost about twice the price I would be willing to say its worth it.
I'm looking to purchase my first setup. This is what I've come up with based on recommendations mainly from this subreddit:
TT: U-Turn Orbit basic
Preamp: Art DJpreII
Amp: SMSL SA60
Speakers: Micca MB42X
Does anyone have any advice on additions/subtractions to this setup? My concern is that I'm unable to listen to these components in person and I've only experienced vintage equipment. I really enjoy that 'warm' sound from what I've listened to previously. Will that be lost with all modern equipment?
Thanks in advance!
My listening taste is wide ranging, heavy on classic rock/jambands:
Steve Miller Band - Pink Floyd - Phish - Grateful Dead - Gorillaz - Radiohead
The classic budgetaudiophile answer is the Micca MB42xs. However you might be able to make your own for better from Parts Express.
Sub $100, I would get these, http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1413757065&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=micca+mb42x
Thanks! I spend most days here, so I strive to make it a place I enjoy.
Desk is from World Market. It looks like they have a 40% off deal going on right now!
Ultrawide is the Dell Alienware AW3418DW.
Top monitor is a dell 4k 27" I bought a few years ago. Great color reproduction.
Monitor stand || Micca MB42X speakers || Keyboard || Mouse || Lucky cat ;)
For the price of that amp you could get a decent 5.1 receiver on accessories4less, which may be a better option if OP has the space.
Edit: Do something like this OP.
5.1 Receiver- $139.99
Speakers- $79.95
You said you wanted to stay under $300 if possible, so here's a decent budget oriented setup with room to upgrade as you save more money. You can get a sub later, and if you decide you want a nicer 5.1 setup, just move these speakers to be your rears and spend more money on a good set of LCR speakers.
We don't recommend sound bars because they are bad by design. I'd suggest getting 3.0 with a receiver. Here are the settings on the receiver you'll want to adjust: dynamic compression (makes everything closer to the same volume meaning loud explosions won't be as loud and quiet whispers won't be quiet), vocal booster, and if needed boost the center channel volume. Here's a good setup for cheap that should provide really clear dialog:
Edit: Then setup is match red on back of speaker to red on back of receiver, HDMI from tv to receiver then go through the quick setup. And if you want to keep it lower profile you could flip the speakers on their side but probably better to just buy some cheap wall mounts and mount them beside the tv since you're supposed to put them equal distance apart as they are from the listening position. Probably have it set up in 30-60 minutes.
Edit 2: encase you were wondering why sound bars are bad
Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Bookshelf Speakers are on sale for <$50/pair right now (never been this low). Grab 4 of those with the matching center and a subwoofer of choice and you’re off to 5.1 land.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ewGPDb1V6A7NM
KC vinyl hunter reporting in :
Most of the cl postings linked here are over a month old and therefore are likely gone already. Here (like everywhere else I assume), about 80% of cl posts go unclosed even when they sell. It never hurts to check but just don't be surprised.
I also don't think any of the linked receivers would be much of a good deal, you could pick up a 90s receiver at one of the goodwill stores around town pretty easily (usually). The pioneer 780 is a good one, but I suspect it's no longer available. Not sure if its the same guy or not but I inquired about a SX780 in columbia a while back and just never got any response, might be worth trying.
In all honesty I'd consider taking a trip down to the hippy store "It's a Beautiful Day" by westport, in the back vinyl room they have a pretty significant selection of vintage audio stuff in solid condition. Most usually come with a replaced belt and a new cart, and I've seen some ok turntables there as low as $50 but they tend to have a few receivers in stock. The turntable guy isn't always there (Jason? I'm bad with names) but he has his name and number posted on the wall by the vintage equipment
If you want to go with a new turntable... Brothers music on Johnson drive had some (NIB) Uturn turntables last time I was there, you can get AT-LP120 at probably a few of the other stores in town if you want to go that route. Or obviously those can be ordered online.
Unfortunately we seem to be suffering pretty heavily from the vinyl boom here from a vintage equipment perspective as anything that's remotely a good deal on CL gets snapped up in less than an hour. For the love of everything that is holy, stay away from Vinyl Renaissance in westport... home of overpriced hipster bullshit.
For speakers the ole Andrew Jones Pioneers are pretty much a steal at their price of only $99
The store linked above in the West bottoms (this) might be a solid place to check, I've never been there. There's a few other similar small stores around but you can probably expect to overpay a little bit since they'll have done a little maintenance n the tables they have. There's one other store I knew about down there but I can't remember what the name was... I'll see if I can find it.
As always, I'll endorse the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR bookshelf speakers.
I own them and really think they sound fantastic for their price. Also they are incredibly highly regarded at their price point: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/a-great-bookshelf-speaker/
Right now they're on sale on Amazon for $100: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008NCD2LG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1375295815&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SL75
These general consensus is these are going to be a better bang for your buck.
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4
https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S510BT-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00YAO43YG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1484676180&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=denon+receiver
As far as sub goes. These cheaper reccomended are:
https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-SUB-1000-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B0063NU3AA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1484676249&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=dayton+audio+sub-1000
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1484676267&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=bic+america+f12
or my personal favorite:
https://www.outlawaudio.com/products/m8.html
There are other brand like Chane and HSU that get great reviews as well for speaker/subs.
Such a list is a bit of a waste of time. The number of combinations is far too great at every price point. It may be more productive to pick a price point and get recommendations.
I've got more than a few systems under my belt, having bought and sold more equipment than most people will ever hear. I am down to 3 (maybe 4) systems at the moment. If I were to recommend a "beginner" or entry level system, it would be one that gives bang for the buck, can be improved as funds allow, and that meets your current needs. That being said, I think it would be very hard to beat a NAD D3020 as the heart of a starter system. It only needs a digital source (i.e., your computer) and a pair of speakers. I use one in one of my systems with a pair of Dynaco A25XL speakers to great effect. A good beginning choice would be the Pioneer Andrew Jones series http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-LR-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1407462178&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=andrew+jones.
The BS22's floor standing brother, the SP-FS52-LR, is also on sale @ $86.99/each. This is the cheapest they've been since August 2013.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-LR-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4/
With your budget, if you don't want to go modular and add the pieces as you go along and get a 5.1 right away, think this seems like a decent package that you'll be very happy with for a good couple of years:
These Pionneer towers x2
And the surrounds
And center that go with the set
This sub seems very well liked around here
The amp you mentionned (I have had RX-V657 for years, very good) is also very good an will be plenty
rest on cables and stuff if you need, go to http://www.monoprice.com
All that should come in around your budget!
Cheers and have fun!
If you are looking to buy new, take a look at these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002EPWC0?ie=UTF8&amp;at=&amp;force-full-site=1&amp;ref_=aw_bottom_links
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-FS52-LR-Designed-standing-Loudspeaker/dp/B008NCD2S4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1409468125&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=pioneer+floorstanding+speakers
If you want to buy used, give me your local Craigslist and I'll take a look at it for you.
For $250 you can easily get a pair of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2S4 they are excellent tower speakers for the money
I went with these - heard good things for the price. They do alright....
Pioneer SP-FS52-LR Andrew Jones Designed Floor standing Loudspeaker (each) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NCD2S4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_BbSMwbF38FV6C
Well it really does depend on your budget. If you're going the 3.0 route I would go with the Andrew Jones Pioneers ($250 a pair) with the matching center ($95). If thats a little too expensive you can get the bookshelf version for $99 for the pair.
There's this also this Fluance 5.0 set for $250 and while I've heard good things especially for the price, I haven't actually heard the speakers themselves.
Polks are fine if you can get a real good price, but there are better options out there. Check out Craigslist.
If you can spend a little more then these are susposed to be the best for your money right now Chane A1rx-c, but you'll be paying around $500 for a 3.0 setup.
How do these compare to his Pioneer bookshelfs that are somewhat the gold standard of cheap bookshelf speakers. They frequently go on sale for 70 or 80 bucks a pair at Fry's.
https://smile.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-BS22-LR-Designed-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B008NCD2LG/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524240600&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=pioneer+bs22-lr
Are you planning to use Surrounds? I can't help but feel surrounds would be a little awkward in your room. I'd recommend a 3.0 or 3.1 system. Here's some equipment to start taking a look at.
Speakers:
I've only heard the Hsu's and the Pioneers in person. Without going in to detail, I reccomend them both. If you're not a demanding listener, save the money and go with the Pioneers. If you are, I think the Hsu's are worth the extra cost. I haven't heard the HTD's but they might just be the right solution for you based on form factor.
Subwoofers:
That's basically the sub I would recommend at each one of those price points.
Receivers
I'm personally not a good source to reccomend receivers... just pick a 5.1 by a brand you like and at the price you can afford. Personally I've worked with Denon's and found nothing to complain about with them.
What would you think of this as a good starting point:
Total: $486
Anything you'd change?
This center is what you want.
For a sub the Bic F12 is a popular entry level sub at that price point.
Go with that for now, and then save up for a better front L,R,C and you can move all the Pioneer bookshelfs to surrounds and rears.
Yamaha RX-V583 was $500 bucks
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi Towers $700
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi surrounds $250
Fluance Signature Hi-Fi center $150
BIC America 475w sub $160 when I bought it.
I originally had a Vizio 55" 1080p TV back in the day that I used with this that was around a thousand. I upgraded to a Sony 65" 4k, that I have since moved to a different room, and am currently using a Sony X900E 65".
Before I went with the higher end Fluance stuff, I went with their $250 surround in a box, and it was still light years ahead of going to the theaters. It was also drastically cheaper. I helped set up a buddy, and for the sound without the TV, he went with the $250 speakers, same sub for $200, and an entry level Yamaha 5.1 that was on sale for $300 and absolutely loves it. $750 for something that will blow away those little HTIB away.
I have a BIC F12 under my computer desk and I'm real happy with it. It's not up to filling a living room with deep bass at high SPLs, but it provides plenty of clean low bass in a desktop setup. It extends much lower than the little Dayton or most smaller inexpensive subs. For a few years now, these have earned a reputation of being a "go to" low budget subwoofer. It's big, but I still have room under the desk for my computer tower, waste basket, paper shredder, and feet.
Since you didn't list a price range, I'll assume you either have infinite money or are on a tight budget.
If it's the former, get the JL Audio Gotham for $12,000.
If the latter, the Big America F12 is $200: http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
I just did all this work to show someone my computer which I named "Maelstrom". It wasn't exactly "unlimited" money but it's pretty damn close. I actually built it though.
Honestly, I spent so much time gathering the links to share with someone I need to post it more than once :P
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Online Picasa album for photos of the computer and my setup can be found HERE. It's changed a bit since some of these pictures. I still haven't added pictures since I re-cabled a few areas and finished off some sleeving.
Or another option is BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing Powered Subwoofer
If you're willing to go $11 over your budget, then get this.
I think you can do better than the monoprice for a $1000 budget.
Front L/R ($220): http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers
Center ($140): http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Center-Channel-Speaker
Surrounds ($100): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018QNYVM/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B0018QNYVM&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=wwwpuresimula-20
Subwoofer ($185): http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1413988027&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=bic+f12+subwoofer
Receiver ($135): http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavr1513/denon-avr-1513-5.1ch-home-theater-receiver-3d-ready/1.html
Grand total: $780. Just one possible build.
Also, if you want HTIB...this one is better than the monoprices: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/focalsib51blk/focal-sib-cub3-home-theater-speaker-system-black/1.html
The biggest issue I have with both the Focals and the monoprices is the sub.
if you are just looking for good, inexpensive stereo bookshelf speakers that will last a while, I'd recommend these. You'll still need a receiver, but these speakers sound about as good as you're going to get for under $700, are well made, and can be found for under $100 for the pair quite often.
EDIT: They're $89 right now if you have Amazon Prime
Hi all. I'm looking to enhance my audio setup for my bedroom. I currently own the following :
Onkyo TX-8020 Stereo Receiver
Klipsch B20 Bookshelf speakers (Frequency Response 62Hz-23KHz ± 3dB)
Based on this setup, what would be your recommendations for enhancing my sound? I was thinking of buying this subwoofer but I'm not sure if it will make a huge difference based on the Klipsch frequencies.
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_4?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468441965&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=subwoofer&amp;refinements=p_72%3A1248879011
Let me know, thanks!
This: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA is a perfect example as to why Polk is hated in HT and Audiophile communities.
This subwoofer is incapable of producing sound that doesn't detract from a home theater experience. Any type of sound during a movie that reaches below 60Hz is just turned into something that can only be described as someone slapping two pieces of wet cardboard together really fast.
You would literally have a better experience just using your built in TV speakers. Yet.... look at the reviews.
The same can be seen on a lot of Polk's cheaper speakers/subs. They are just trash and for some reason have rave reviews on mass market sites. Some of Polk's higher end speakers are OK but much better can be had for the prices. Some of their vintage gear can be OK.
I do not use a separate subwoofer with the T0 and find the bass to be quite satisfactory. I mostly listen to pop and hip hop music, and the bass is noticeable and tight. Part of this is due to the passive radiators featured on the Vanatoo speakers. Many reviews of the Vanatoo echo this sentiment that a subwoofer is not necessary.
If you do decide to get a subwoofer, some recommended subwoofer choices are the following:
Vanatoo have used the RSL Speedwoofer 10S at audio shows and praised it.
EDIT: After reading the subwoofer guide that sharkamino linked, I have removed the $90 Polk PSW10 from the list.
JBL Active Monitor - $150 Amazon Price
Read up on how powerful these budget speakers are. It's insane the quality that these suckers perform at! That said, you'd have to look into getting a subwoofer down the line but they can perform without one. A nice budget subwoofer is Polk Audio PSW10 10-Inch - $101 Amazon which is a steal at that price point. Polk's have built a solid reputation in the audiophila world and are quite the reliable little beasts.
I have one of these, got it on sale for $100 at a local store. It's powered, 100 watt (it's ample power for the driver, it rattles my windows) and 10 inch.
Excellent value IMO, but if you're looking for an audiophile level sub I'd look at more expensive stuff. It gets a little muddy in it's higher frequencies, and just worse in general if you really turn it up. You can use the built in low-pass filter to get rid of some of those higher frequencies if you want though. I turn the knob about halfway, but my bookshelf speakers have large woofers, so you may want turn it less (like 1/3).
Sounds amazing, even a cheap sub will make the system sound much better. There are lots of options under $200 from Polk, Klipsch, and Monoprice. Just make sure there are speaker level inputs like these ones:
Monoprice 60-Watt Powered Subwoofer - 8 Inch With Auto-On Function, For Studio And Home Theater https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009GUTJ34/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_yTLTDbKYN78MW
Polk Audio PSW10 10" Powered Subwoofer - Featuring High Current Amp and Low-Pass Filter | Up to 100 Watts | Big Bass at A Great Value | Easy Integration Home Theater Systems https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_zOLTDbPGCRA75
I'm using this 50w transducer, hooked to a small amp and connected to the sub output on my soundcard. I'll have a write-up posted soon with steps and parts (as soon as it's done!).
Someone lit the TSR signal, and thus I am here :P
I bought the Aura bass shakers and a Lepai LP-168HA 2.1 2 x 40-Watt Amplifier. My Bass shaker is rated for 50W, where the Lepai amp only comes with a 3A PSU, so I picked up a 6A PSU on the recommendation of someone in this subreddit, and it's been working fine (hasn't burned up or anything). I'm currently attaching it to a ford cobra seat, but just from the limited test use I've done so far, it works great. Definitely shakes my entire apartment when I turn it up.
The entire kit came out to about $90 after shipping, which I figured was a great price. I've seen someone recommend getting 4 amps and 4 transducers and mounting them on the corners of my seat, then running SimVibe to simulate each wheel independently, but I haven't tried that personally. Nor have I tried the actual brandname buttkicker, so I can't say how this solution compares. But I will say it adds a huge amount of immersion to Assetto Corsa.
EDIT: Oops, forgot the parts list:
AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducer by Aura Sound - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_VjzVtb1MV70BA
Lepai LP-168HA 2.1 2 x 40-Watt Amplifier and 1x68W Sub Output by Lepai - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0070Z87YO/ref=asc_df_B0070Z87YO3169620?smid=A385A0XNQBW8HY&amp;tag=pgmp-401-100-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;creative=395109&amp;creativeASIN=B0070Z87YO
12v 6a Adapter Power Supply for LCD Monitor with Power Cord by LCD AC Power Adapter - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TUMDWG/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_tlzVtb1TKD73K?tag=viglink20241-20
This kind of tech/setup is pretty common and affordable. I don't know the buttkicker specs, but I imagine it's just overpriced due to the name and fancy-schmancy packaging:
http://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408110674&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=shaker+bass
http://www.amazon.com/FMOD-Crossover-Pair-Low-Pass/dp/B0006N41EM/ref=sr_1_151?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408110849&amp;sr=8-151&amp;keywords=crossover
http://www.amazon.com/LP-2020A-Lepai-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408110904&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=lepai+2020a%2B
BAM! Done... All you need.
Suggestions:
Let's be reasonable. You probably aren't going to need 3 4K screens, so let's run with a
Before you shy away at the 60fps (which is just about the highest you'll hit on a 4k display right now) keep in mind that the only 60fps you remember is coming from a dirt cheap lcd screen. 60 fps on a 5000 color lumen laser projector is going to be epic. (sidenote, not sure about input latency. Check before you buy it!)
https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-DT-1770-PRO-Headphones/dp/B0142FEWD4)
Speakers will run another $3000 easily.
Annnnnnd this might seem cheap, but don't forget your $50 transducers
Get a few of these and sprinkle 'em about!) to really amp up the action!
Anyways no matter what price point, don't forget the sound & picture quality! They make games so much more fun. Gaming on a 120hz projector + 7.1 surround system is a blast.
I have 4 shakers set up on the 4 corners of my racing rig.
This is my DIY bass shaker setup:
Amp: http://www.parts-express.com/4x100w-at-4-ohm-tk2050-class-t-digital-audio-amplifier-board--320-335
Power Supply: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERNIGHT-24V-DC-14-6A-350W-Regulated-Switching-Power-Supply-Transformer-/331060676334?hash=item4d14c106ee:g:hV0AAMXQjWtRKt4z
Bass Shakers: http://www.amazon.com/Reckhorn-Bs-200-Tactile-Transducer-Theater/dp/B00AMH17GC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425568544&amp;sr=8-5&amp;keywords=bass+shaker
Second Sound card to drive amp: http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-Audigy-SB1550/dp/B00EO6X7PG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1402934998&amp;sr=8-8&amp;keywords=sound+card
Bass Shakers: 4 x $40
Power Supply: 1 x $24
Amp: 1 x $50
Sound card: 1 x $30
DIY Total: $264
Examples:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/724042-My-DIY-SimVibe-racing-rig
http://www.overclock.net/t/1354257/project-log-my-diy-simvibe-racing-rig
EDIT:
Looks like the reckhorn shakers are currently unavailable on amazon. You may be able to find them elsewhere.
On amazon, These may be acceptable replacements:
https://www.amazon.com/Visaton-BS130-4-Tactile-Transducer-Shaker/dp/B0056BQMNM/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1544621334&amp;sr=1-19&amp;keywords=aurasound
OR
https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1544621334&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=aurasound
Pro-Tip for Nick or anybody looking to further upgrade their home entertainment experience: get a bass amp for your audio and plug some buttkickers https://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
depending on how big the amp, you might only be able to power 1. I got one for the chair by my gaming pc and it is fucking sweet and really easy to install, I wanna get a bigger one soon. When somebody shoots an awp in cs go near me its like thunder.
I use two Aura bass shakers which I attached to a 2x4 on the beams on the inside of my couch. They are wired in series to one channel of a small two channel amp.
The amp is connected to the subwoofer output of my receiver. If you have a X.1 receiver (as I do), simply attach an RCA splitter to the subwoofer output so that one can go to your actual sub and one to the bass shakers.
I love having friends and family to my apartment for the first time. I'll put on some music and they will sit on the big leather couch and without fail mention that the sound must be so loud because they "can feel the bass!" I love my bass shakers especially for Battlefield 4, I have not yet bought BF1, and action movies. If I could make a recommendation: buy a proper subwoofer amp for the shakers. Usually these amps have a built-in EQ or a crossover so you can dial in exactly what frequencies you want the shakers to react to.
Totally worth doing this mod, it makes everything more immersive. 25watts is PLENTY for a computer chair, I know that sounds low but trust me its FINE. If anything I want to add more smaller ones for a stereo vibrating sound.
As someone who has done this multiple times (not building a transducer but installed them) I would recommend getting a higher quality amp, specificly a plate amp. I know they cost a little more but they add so much more quality.
Amp for transducer: $43
Cheap transducer 25 watts: $25 (take apart and use the transducer in the backpack)
Nicer Transducer 50watts: $52
DONT BUY THIS AMP - the sound is awful and is no where near the stated 68watts, also the low pass things dont work at all on this.
That equals out to about £1500. I know you said a clutch isn't required, but as far as I know you can't get a Fanatec pedal set without a clutch but with a load cell brake, and if you're spending this much you're going to want a load cell. And to be honest, having a clutch and a H-shifter is useful if you ever want to drive something that needs them (Group C cars, for example).
Here's the 100 dollar version I did myself. Really works and if you wanted an insane amount of vibration more than you can get from a boxed consumer kit just keep adding bass shakers and upgrade the amp.
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sa70-70w-subwoofer-plate-amplifier--300-784
http://www.amazon.com/AuraSound-AST-2B-4-Shaker-Tactile-Transducer/dp/B0002ZPTBI
Good luck, I lived in a old factory. Low frequency noise traveled well, and the neighbors loved their base. I mounted one of these with a amp. Set it to play MLK speeches. If you cant beat them join them.
Polk Audio T15, $59 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RJLHB8
Sony SSCS5, $73 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O8YLMVA/
I'm considering getting a turntable setup. The turntable I'm thinking of has a phono pre-out so the receiver/amp wouldn't need a phono input. Check these out:
turntable
Mini Amp
speakers
IMHO KLH is/was near the bottom of the speaker food chain. Nowadays, almost any other brand will eat them alive. Having this said, they are affordable, sound descent and fill the needs for most people. If I were you, I would try to get them a bit cheaper (if possible) and use them while looking for an upgrade (KEF, Monitor Audio, B&W, Etc).
I think you can find a better deal with "museum" series of previous brand mentioned here for the same price (around 80 USD top). KEF Uni-q Q10 are a good example.
Good luck!
Edit: Take a look on this Polk Audio T15
Sidebar links are a great starting point. You've got a good grasp of the beginning points.
I would recommend going with a setup that consists of a Receiver/Amplifier, Passive Speakers, and a Turntable. Yes I left out Phono Stage Amplifier, but I would personally pick a receiver that has it built in.
For a receiver if you want to go for new my two cheap but very well featured options would be the Onkyo TX-8020 and the Onkyo TX-8220. These do have built in phono inputs. Compare the features for yourself to see what seems good to you.
If you want to go used, check out eBay and do a search for "stereo receiver", You can go with anything you think is good as well as looking into the reputation of the brands/models, though it becomes hard to find reviews of old hifi equipment. Almost anything from mid-90s and before will have a phono input that will save you the phono stage purchase.
For passive speakers a very cost effective and something I use in my setup are the Dayton Audio B652 bookshelf speakers. These are decently loud and have great sound.
For a turntable going with new ones will be more expensive and you should look at the recommended ones from the sidebar as they explain it there best. If you're going used, look on eBay for "turntable" and find something that is claimed as working well and is also a recommended brand from the sidebar links. In general something decent is 100% going to have an adjustable tonearm weight, all these new bad turntables always lack this.
One last thing you didn't explicitly ask for, but you should be knowledgeable about is cartridges. You will most likely want to buy a new one for a used turntable. I would say the most cost effective cartridges are found in the range of $50 to $150, do thorough research on installing cartridges and setting them up correctly and you should be on your way to great sound.
Dayton Audio B652 Bookshelf Speakers These will run ya a tad over $35 shipped via Amazon and are the best budget speakers I have ever owned. I still use em with my secondary setup. but for the price they will sound better than most cheap Bluetooth setups. Good luck!
Hello everyone, so not too long ago I bought a turntable, pre amp and an amplifier. Recently my preamp died and I wanted to upgrade to something that includes both the amp and a preamp. I'm not very familiar with this kind of equipment so I was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction as to what to look for. Below I have linked all the equipment that I have. So basically I want to replace the amp and pre-amp with something that can do both. Also I'd prefer for it to have an aux chord option as well. Thanks for all the help!
turntable:https://store.uturnaudio.com/products/orbit-plus-turntable
preamp:https://www.amazon.com/ART-DJPRE-II-Preamplifier-Switchable/dp/B000AJR482/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1473115290&amp;sr=8-13&amp;keywords=preamplifier amplifier:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049P6OTI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 speakers:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RMPHMU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Stumbled upon these on amazon.ca: https://www.amazon.ca/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/
Looks like there is only one set left in stock and is sold by amazon.ca directly so it's legit. Back when I searched for these I could not find these anywhere in Canada.
These are some entry level bookshelf speakers that should be a big upgrade from "computer speakers". You connect them to the cheap Lepai amp (with speaker wire) and they will work for PC.
Edit: huh, now it says it's 10 left in stock.
That Sony system sounds awful (on display at Frys). The Onkyo one I am not familiar with.
With a hard budget of 400, the Energy Take One system is out of reach as you won't be able to afford a receiver. THe lowest price on that is 370.000
Here is the speaker set I recommend: http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-SKS-HT540-Channel-Theater-Speaker/dp/B000GU78Z4/ref=cm_cr-mr-title
I own it. I needed a "hard body" subwoofer as my two toddlers have a nasty habit of destroying speakers. It does pretty well with movies and explosions, a bit boomy and lacking in tightness for music. The subwoofer alone costs 125.00. I'm using the fronts at my office, they sound pretty good for jazz. The fronts and center are identical speakers. The surround sounds aren't good for much, I ended up cannibalizing them for rears that need to be wireless (used with rocketfish) and for a set I hung on the wall for the children's playroom.
I think the set is a fucking great value, even though the speakers range from average to moderately above average. If you don't need the 7 speakers, then get the sub as a stand alone:
(http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-SKW204-Reflex-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000HMLP5A/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1318567957&amp;sr=1-6)
and go with four dayton b652s, which is a huge value in speaker-dom.
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-B652-2-Way-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1318568027&amp;sr=1-1
If you go that route, the daytons have FAR less oomph than the onkyo set in terms of centers and mains, but they are more delicate and precise when it comes to most music. If this is for home theatre, I'd get the onkyo set.
As for a receiver, you have a remaining budget of 150.00-200.00, depending on which speaker set-up you went with. Here are several in that price range from companies I trust, of lines that I know represent quality products for the dollar (not audiophile receivers, but they aren't pieces of shit and the wattage ratings aren't complete shams)
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-391-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B003QP3M8I/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1318568134&amp;sr=1-7
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V367BL-Channel-Receiver-Black/dp/B003CP0K8C/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1318568134&amp;sr=1-10
Or if you stretch a little bit, here's one under warranty from Amazon for 225.00 that seems like a great deal:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004O0TRCO/sr=1-1/qid=1318568598/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&amp;me=&amp;qid=1318568598&amp;sr=1-1&amp;seller=
If bass is your thing, you want a pair of bookshelf speakers with much larger woofers. The ones I originally linked are 4 inch, these are 6 1/2 inch. The original speakers are better in most ways, but these will put out a fair amount more bass.
If you really want bass, you'd want to get a sub woofer, but your $140 budget would make that somewhat difficult.
Dayton Audio B652 6-1/2-Inch 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker Pair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jJ16xbVR1RBY1
Frankly, coming from a pill any of the solutions will provide infinitely more bass and sound quality then you are used to.
I was pretty impressed by these when I had em in my old place. https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU
He can get them here.
They look like Dayton Audio knockoffs aside from the magnetic grille- the Dayton's don't have that. DA's are also cheaper at $39.80 but don't have free shipping at the moment, though that could always change. https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=pd_sbs_23_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B002RMPHMU&amp;pd_rd_r=6T6FJFE3THPK9PNA7SQ2&amp;pd_rd_w=ZRqRC&amp;pd_rd_wg=Qmhu3&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=6T6FJFE3THPK9PNA7SQ2
edit- so on that note, if they're basically the same speakers- then go for it. The Daytons have a ton of good reviews.
Dayton B652 $30 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zZ-ACbAZHX9GG
Kentiger mini amp $15 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y27NLTB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_h2-ACbZBNBHGQ
3.5mm to RCA cable $3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00354T5UO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Y3-ACb6DZE76N
Won't find better sound for the price unless you dip into the used market
here you go, sir
Gratz on ditching the Crosley. If i might throw in a little:
http://www.amazon.com/Technica-CN5625AL-Half-inch-Standard-Cartridge/dp/B002OSWGLM/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1412614754&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=audio+technica+cartridge
http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4105-Receiver-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B0002EPWC0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1412614688&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=SHERWOOD
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1412615396&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=dayton+b652
$162 total. With your vintage TT and this rig you will be kicking ass sound-wise. Folks with 5 times as much money in their setups will be impressed.
If you want to squeeze a little more sound out of the setup (and get a little closer to $200), think about an Ortofon OM Cart at $45, or some Pioneer SP-BS21 speakers at $80. But that's up to you. You can Amazon those yourself, I am getting tired of pasting links ;-)
DIY is what I do... here's what I would part together for a $150 budget.
SMSL 2x50W Amp:
http://www.amazon.com/SMSL-50Wx2-TDA7492-Amplifier-Adapter/dp/B00F0H8TOC
Dayton B652 Speakers:
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B652-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B002RMPHMU
5A Battery:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=16770.html
Instructions:
http://imgur.com/a/Qgmay
This would be better than anything else for the price!
In my opinion, the portion of the design that will be the most important to a musician and sound designer, is the loudspeaker+cabinet. So I recommend you spend 80% of your time on this sub-task. Plan to build several prototypes and to throw them away, as you gradually approach a final design whose sound & tone is acceptable to you.
You're building a mini-bookshelf speaker box that also happens to have some electronics inside. So you'll need to become a speaker designer or at least a speaker tinkerer. Have a look at DIY loudspeaker websites to learn (a lot) about cabinet rigidity, internal volume, "infinite baffle" construction, and driver selection. Among other topics.
Or, you might consider "outsourcing" this part of the design to external consultants. Partition the apparatus into two pieces: (i) speaker+cabinet; (ii) playback electronics, tone controls, and (battery? wall-socket?) power supply. Then simply purchase a few different commercial speakers+cabinets and see which ones provide Solid, warm tone with decent low end. Having solved the difficult 80% of the problem, you can now focus on the electronics box.
Examples: (link 1) , (link 2) , (link 3) , (link 4)
Can anyone who owns a pair comment on their quality compared to similar priced speakers? For example - Dayton Audio B652
Here's the first thing to check: does your TV have a headphone jack?
If so, awesome. Buy these speakers, along with this amp and some cheap speaker wire, and love how great your movies sound for a total investment of well under $100.
If your TV doesn't have a headphone jack, there are two ways you can go. You can plug an amp like that directly into your laptop, but you might deal with a slight audio offset depending on your TV. Or, if your TV has an optical audio output, you can look around for a reasonably-priced home theater receiver to use with those fantastic Dayton speakers that either passes through HDMI, or has an optical input. Most new ones will do both. This is a much costlier solution, but it has the added benefit of also allowing you to add a subwoofer to the system at some point.
RIP fireplace.
Seriously though, was there no other option for TV placement?
Great choices on the audio gear though. One of the the best new speaker sets in that price range. Should sound great. When you start looking for a sub though, I would recommend looking at other models, the big box store brands like Pioneer typically make lousy subs(at least in their budget line). The Bic F12 is often recommended as the best new sub in the <$200 price range.
edit: PS, love the DW decor. We have the same Van Gogh tardis print in our living room = )
Well, I did the best I could. I ruled out bookshelves since you said you had the room since bookshelves in this price range don't do so well with "loud" without causing distortion and hearing damage.
So, here are some options. Get one thing out of each section. Try to spend as much as you can on the speakers.
Speakers
BIC America Venturi DV64 x2 (~$250)
Infinity Primus P363 x2 (~$350)
PSB Alpha T1 (~$400)
Integrated Amplifier
SMSL SA50 (~$75)
Emotiva mini-X a-100 (~$190)
The following aren't necessary to get things working but you should add them when you get the cash.
DAC
schiit modi 2 (~$100)
This connects your computer to the amplifier. Without this, you just use a male 3.5mm to rca stereo cable.
Subwoofer
BIC America F12 (~$190)
You connect the amp's outputs to the speaker inputs on the sub and then connect the speakers to the sub's speaker outputs.
If I were you I would start out with the PSB speakers and emotiva amp (if you can afford the ~$600) then add the sub when you get more money. The DAC will sound better than your computer's sound card and reduce static and interference from your computer.
A new amplified sub woofer might be a better deal in the long run, as it would deliver more bass than 50 watts can deliver.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
A replacement driver could also work with better low level response etc. Here is a good source for replacement drivers
http://www.parts-express.com/
If you can save up get this. http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1334285971&amp;sr=8-7. I have it myself and it shakes my house. Completely amazing with Dubstep.
L/R: ELAC B6
Center: ELAC C5
Sub: BIC F12
Receiver: Denon S510BT
Speaker placement can be hard to figure out, but that all depends on the space. 3.1 is fairly easy even in small areas. I had a small living room and this worked out great for me.
When a better idea of the space you have, I could give you a build on what I'd do based on your budget.
Benq w1070 Projector
Denon-1713 receiver
Jamo S426 Speakers
BIC F12 Subwoofer
3D TV Corp Glasses
Sony BDP-5100
edit: If anyone is wondering, 89" fixed screen. Picture doesn't really do it justice.
I absolutely love it. Could not be happier. Feel free to ask any questions.
Hey /u/ZeosPantera,
I first wanted to say you are the fucking man. This subreddit has been so incredibly helpful in figuring out my audio system. Additionally, I was wondering if you could provide your expertise for me.
My fraternity is currently getting our house back in a few weeks, and we have money to spend on home improvement (in this case, an audio system for the large common room). I'm looking for a system that can double as both a home theater sound system as well as speakers for a large, loud party. I assembled a list of components and was hoping you can recommend any changes. This is the list so far:
Receiver - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7X2OV2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Center - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y3E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Front speakers (tower) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ISZEV2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Rear speakers - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CRMKJTQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A1WPEQCN6WJKZG
Subwoofer - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A8Y5M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
These are the ones you listed as being loud enough to play music on as well. Will these products fit the bill for my needs (home theater, large frat party)? Also, these extras to set up the system:
Banana plugs - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0090CVJZ4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
RCA cable - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FVX9FO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A1DCPNQKKEISZB
Copper wire - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00APEG9MO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Is there anything I'm missing in order to set up the system? Thank you so much!!
I am going to be using this article plus my own personal experiences in the 7 years I have been collecting: https://www.techradar.com/news/best-turntables
Turntable: Audio-Technica ATLP120USB Direct Drive Professional USB Turntable Price $229.00 (On Sale at the time of this writing) it comes with a built in Pre-Amp so you are good to go. This is one I have been eyeballing myself.
Amplifier: Yamaha R-S202BL Stereo Receiver Price $149.95 (On sale at the time I am writing this). This is the one I personally use and I love it. It has multiple channels so you can allow for growth. For example I got a stereo cd player at the local thrift store I am trying to upgrade. I just need RCA Cables to hook it up which I do.
Speakers: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-T15-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002RJLHB8/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 Price $49.98 (Sale at the time I am writing this)
Wire from speakers to Amp: AmazonBasics 100ft 16-Gauge Audio Stereo Speaker Wire Cable - 100 Feet Price $13.49
Headphone Adapter (Trust me you'll need this if you want to listen to music via headphones) Adapter Price: $7.99
Subtotal: $450.41 plus taxes. I think you have wiggle room on the speakers, but I searched for high rated ones. If you need help setting up your Turntable and Stereo please feel free to reach out and I can help! :D
Stupid good for under $100: http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B00E7H8GG2
Apparently reddit audophiles argue that these speakers are among the best for its price point:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/?coliid=I2PWUTQ5WG4F4B&amp;colid=21OQT1GMJ4GEV&amp;psc=1&amp;ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
If you can spring for the MB42X for an extra 20 bucks, get those. If budget is an issue, the MG42s are good too.
You will need a small AMP though. They tend to run about 15-30 dollars.
Seeing as you already got an amplfier you could also get these:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B00E7H8GG2
And this:
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-1500-15-150-watt-powered-subwoofer--300-634
Id run mb42x if you want small speakers that sound pretty good. Then you can get a real sub.
Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers With 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Black, Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_1s4DzbW3Y284B
Micca MB42X-C Center Channel Speaker With Dual 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Black, Each) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HHFBEK6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Yt4Dzb3ERFS0N
This is a solid system and should be pretty future-proofed with that receiver in the case that you want to upgrade the channels.
If you're will to put in a little work, I think you can build a better sounding set for that price.
Two pairs of the Micca 42MBX for the fronts and surrounds:
http://amzn.com/B00E7H8GG2
-- These speakers earned high praise and recommendation in the audiophile community (particularly AVSForums) for their fantastic sound quality, which got me to purchase them for my own system. Love them dearly!
The matching center channel:
http://amzn.com/B00HHFBEK6
That together is about $300.
You can then use the giftcard for a subwoofer:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer-subwoofer-black/5086873.p?id=1218610014537&amp;skuId=5086873
A solid receiver:
http://amzn.com/B00ILCS182
Plus all your cables and banana plugs from Monoprice. You might even have some money left over to get an extra pair of the Micca speakers to make it a 7.1.
Not really looking for a sound bar.
Looking at these for speakers: Micca MB42X Bookshelf Speakers with 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_wI98ub0KK9MRE
Just wondering if I can use something like a smsl amp to connect them to the TV... Would look much nicer IMO and I believe I can still use the tv remote to control volume out put
Speaking in broad terms, if a company is more well known for making TVs and the like, stay away from their audio products.
A Denon, Yamaha, or Marantz would be a better buy. Onkyo can still be a toss up, I don't know if they've rebounded from faulty HDMI board issues. Also don't be afraid to check out accessories4less.com and snag a refurb unit. That, or check out open box units at a big box store for a steep discount.
Unless you've got an itchy trigger finger, you can camp out on Craigslist (assuming you're in the US) and grab some superb deals, too.
As far as speakers go, check out frequency response for a rough idea of how low and high they'll play (these numbers can and are often fudged, the only way to tell if you like a pair is to sit and listen to them - preferably in your own listening space - before buying, often times a storefront will have to do. Miccas are popular if you're just starting out, I've never heard them but a lot of beginners are perfectly content.
Your budget is kinda light, so you may have to skip the sub for now and add it later when you get some more money.
The PB42x are powered.
I'm not sure if they are still available though.$120 on amazon.Guys, get some powered monitors like these instead, you'll be a lot better off.
https://www.amazon.ca/JBL-LSR305-Studio-Monitor/dp/B00DUKP37C $219 each (80 watts)
or these
https://www.amazon.ca/Micca-PB42x-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00NXAEPDC $179 (pair) (75 watts)
/r/audiophile
These are supposed to be pretty good:
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-PB42X-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00NXAEPDC
these would be good starter speakers for ya. They're powered so you don't need a separate amp.
I'm seeing the bookshelf, tower, and amp wiki pages. But is there a powered speaker recommendation page? I'd like to keep the solution in most rooms down to just a speaker/s and the Chromecast, no separate amp.
Edit: Okay, I see that powered speakers are sprinkled throughout the bookshelf list. And the thread notes that if there's no resistance ("ohm") or efficiency ("db") in the "Tech Specs" column, that's a powered speaker.
It's a bit disappointing that the cheapest powered option listed is $120. I don't doubt it's good, but I'm looking for a bit less $$, or if that much or more for it to be a more compact unit, like Sonos 1 or 3.
Passive generally gives you more upgrade options because you would then already have an amp and could upgrade easily to other passive speakers, also easier to add a sub, but the initial cost is a bit more than powered usually. Powered are simpler and one is not explicitly better than the other so it just depends on how much money you want to spend and what you want to do with them. Another good option are the Micca MB42X passives, or the powered version, the PB42X. I've never heard the Edifiers so I'm not sure how they compare.
Here's the powered version of the Micca speakers everyone recommends for a budget pair of speakers. They're right over $100 so it fits the budget
Micca PB42X Powered Bookshelf Speakers with 4-Inch Carbon Fiber Woofer and Silk Dome Tweeter (Pair) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NXAEPDC/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_Qju4Db9MXBYP6
At $100 Micca PB42X is a good choice. I reviewed their unamplified version here. /r/zeos has a good list of powered monitors here. For a desk, powered speakers are the way to go IMO, less wires and components to manage, so it saves a bit of space. The Micca's leave you enough money to get a cheap sub, I'd start with these Daytons. Price/woofer size directly correlates to more bass here, but even the 6.5" will make a difference with the Miccas.
Try these. They're all-in-one versions of the speakers I use myself. They don't need a sub or an amp, and they're plenty loud. Lay them on their sides under the TV if you have to, but pound for pound I think this is your best option.
https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-S510BT-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B00YAO43YG
Hard to find better floorstanding speakers for $300, but since you're going to be adding a subwoofer later anyway, maybe start with some nicer $300 bookshelf speakers?
https://emotiva.com/products/speakers/airmotiv-b1
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-150M-Bookshelf-Speaker-Ebony/dp/B00RXHEIHE
https://www.kefdirect.com/q100-bookshelf-loudspeaker-pair.html
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06
The Emotivas would be the easiest and cheapest system to complete later.
The Klipsch would be easy to complete too, but more expensive.
I haven't really heard much about Sony receivers so I can't really comment on that aspect of it but generally Denon or other manufactures are recommended around here. Might be worth looking into something like the Denon x1300 on acessories4less. It's a little more expensive but you get audyssey room correction which can be really helpful.
I'd skip the center channel for now and maybe even the subwoofer and go with some higher end speakers. Something in the $300 range would probably do you much better than skimping on the speakers and getting the center channel right now. The Elac Debut B6's are highly recommended (haven't heard them myself but have heard a lot of praise):
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1519671824&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=elac+debut+b6&amp;dpID=41zNEwhnFGL&amp;preST=_SY300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch
They're also about to announce the 2018 model lineup and they are front ported which is cool. Maybe some others can chime in on some good speakers in the $300 price range as well.
So the Denon receiver plus a pair of the Elac's would run you about $600, you could save the $100 and put it towards a nicer subwoofer. Something like an HSU, Rythmik, or SVS. I think you'd be MUCH happier going this route than skimping on the components now just to get started and then having to spend more money later on when you realize how much of a difference a quality setup will sound. I skimped out when starting my setup and I definitely have regretted it and spent more money than I otherwise would have had I just spent the money upfront.
Dont forget the B6 at $199...probably the best deal out of the bunch..https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_3?s=aht&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524243599&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=elac+debut+b6
I recommend considering the Elac B6 Debut Bookshelf speakers.
6.5 inch mid/bass drivers, so a decent amount of bass. They are BIG for being called bookshelf speakers. Sound best on speaker stands.
Great reviews,
$280
http://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06?ie=UTF8&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=s9_dcacsd_bhz_bw_c_x_1
I'm a big fan of the KRKs. I have the 5s and the 8s and the sound is great! At $300 that is a bit over your range / budget, though. Unless you meant $150 each.
Just as an option on something that sounds pretty good, in my barely informed opinion.
If you don't need powered versions:
https://www.amazon.com/KEF-Q100-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B0047K3X1M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1523375811&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=KEF+100&amp;dpID=41stoqDRqGL&amp;preST=_SX300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch
or
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1523375820&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;keywords=ELAC+B6&amp;psc=1
with a small amp would be a small stretch and seem fairly highly recommended online (and the price has come down quite recently on those)
50w x 2 channel with Bluetooth: https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dta-21bt-100w-class-d-21-amplifier-with-bluetooth-and-power-supply--300-3830
I'm getting that Dayton amp with two Dali Zensor 3s in the next month, as an aside. Sorry for the ramble, may or may not help.
as for the sound card I would only get the soundblaster if you need a soundcard (something with mic input/etc) otherwise you will get better results out of a USB DAC like the Schiit Modi
for speakers, there's lots of options in the $300-$500 range, the JBL LSR305's in the OP are surely worth looking at, the ELAC B6 are another good choice, amps are included in the JBL's so you won't need one with those, but with the ELAC's an SMSL SA-60 should provide plenty of clean power.
haha wow. Well, it would depend on a lot. But lets say you have a few bucks but not a lot to spend. I imagine you're interesting in keeping a clean look so definitely 2.0 for now (no sub). If you don't mind having a receiver I'd suggest the Elac B6 or B5 speakers. Amazing value. Pair that with a modest hdmi receiver by yamaha or denon....
Alternatively if you have headphone out you could get powered monitors. I'm a big fan of Emotiva's line. The Emotiva Airmotv 4s would be a great start....I really enjoy them for my desktop speakers. Could I always go bigger for better low end. With something like the 4s you may not get huge bass but you'll get solid lows but everything will be insanely clear and accurate. You'll never go back.
You'll want stands. I suggest Sanus...make sure whatever you get the tweeter is about head level while sitting.
Enjoy!
http://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSEQ06/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449450672&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=elac+b6
these are supposed to be the best speakers in the budget category (hifi world is raving about them). can't wait to get a pair myself!
Upgrades include:
Not purchased yet: hopefully sometime this year
A few options in your price range:
http://philharmonicaudio.com/aa.html
this might be on sale or this might be a scam/pricing error because usually they go for a bit more: https://www.altex.com/Pioneer-Andrew-Jones-Designed-Compact-Loudspeakers-SP-BS22-LR-P157403.aspx?gclid=CjwKEAjw9MrIBRCr2LPek5-h8U0SJAD3jfhtyq_nnWPKvh-hJQ9EiVqC-G8RUemZI-__MVQAPyFtQhoC8Ijw_wcB
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Andrew-Jones/dp/B014GSER6O
There are of course a million more good options but there are some to start with
If you have a receiver, I'd go with these since they're on sale and are being discontinued for a newer model. These speakers have good bass that sorta feels like a mini-subwoffer when it's turnt up. Here's a more in depth review
I'd probably skip the sub for now with that budget, but others may have a better suggestion.
EDIT: This would be my suggestion for living room listening, probably not great for desktop
The Edifier R1280T might be what you are looking for.
I recently upgraded from an LP60 to a LP1240 (secondhand) and I've been seriously underwhelmed and am having problems.
The LP60 sounded crisper with cleaner sound which shouldn't be the case for a much more expensive table with a cartridge costing more than the previous table all together.
The 1240 wasn't nearly loud enough so I had to add a preamp, I know there is a built in one but after trying every possible Line/phono config it still was't giving me the volume the LP60 had.
Also I am getting a loud hum which I can't seam to figure out. I attracted a ground wire from the turntable to the preamp which reduced hum but is still prevalent. I'm almost positive this hum is stemming from the turntable itself as when I used the LP60 with the amp there was no hum whatsoever and the hum is still there when the preamp isn't connected.
Video of hum
Setup:
Turntable
Amp
Pre Amp
Headshell
Cartridge
Speakers
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These Miccas & a Lepai amp.
So standard pinball cabinet: Playfield space is 20.5 inches wide. Back box space is 28.5 inches wide.
This backbox TV:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-32-class-led-720p-hdtv/5747454.p?skuId=5747454
Mounted with this mount:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07RN77YL6?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
DMD screen is this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NB17E0Z?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Playfield TV:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-40-class-led-d-series-1080p-smart-hdtv/6288347.p?skuId=6288347
Speakers:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00N8265I8?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Amplifier:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ULRFQ1A?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
My computer only has optical out so I need this adapter:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AWBA8U8?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
If you don't require motion sensing nudging or a analog plunger you can get a simple keyboard controller like this:
https://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html
Buttons like this:
https://www.focusattack.com/il-psl-h-concave-short-stem-pushbutton-blue/
Couple of ground wire harnesses like this (you'll probably need two):
https://www.focusattack.com/30-connection-22-awg-187-ground-daisy-chain-wire/
And some .187 quick connect wiring:
https://www.focusattack.com/16pc-22-awg-wire-with-187-quick-disconnect/
1 1/8 inch spade bit to enlarge or add cabinet button holes:
https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-SPEEDBOR-Blue-Groove-Spade/dp/B00004YOAC/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=1+1%2F8+spade+bit&amp;qid=1569174093&amp;sprefix=1+1%2F8+sp&amp;sr=8-3
After that it's just assorted HDMI cables, USB Extension cords, a computer and a partridge in a pear tree. I keep my computer outside of the cabinet in case I want to use it for other things and keep the heat out so my cables are long. The TVs don't generate much heat. And currently I just turn the TVs and computer on manually.
I built my own speaker grills out of foam board and acousticly transparent cloth.
I'm like you, OP. I also am philosophically opposed to spending more on audio than on screen. That being said, good speakers do last for a very long time: if new formats ever come out, you can always upgrade the receiver and you can keep your speakers forever.
I did a lot of searching and I ended up with a good compromise that allowed me to have a LG OLED 65 together with a set of solid speakers.
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- The latest OLED TVs are pretty much the same as last year's. LG B7, C7, B8 or C8 are all the same TV pretty much. Get the cheapest you can find. I bought mine on greentoe.com. I offered 1900$ for a 65' B7 this past April and my offer got accepted. You can even try to price match it with your credit card, I think (search in this sub). This may save you a few dollars more. Bottom line is: you should be able to snatch a 65 OLED for ~1500-1900.
- You can order a refurbished sub for a fraction of the price. I have the Denon X1400H that u/robotdinofight recommended, and I also bought it from accessories4less.
- Atmos speakers are mostly marketing BS. There isn't much sound that comes from above you in movies. That Denon is compatible anyway, so you can always add them later. Before you do that, just go watch a movie in Atmos at a theater.
- Sorround speakers are not that important either. Your dialogue is coming from the center speaker, and music etc will be on the front channels, with just some in your sorrounds more for ambiance than anything else. You can go with *very cheap* speakers here. Source: Zeos's guide here. I ended up buying the cheapest speakers Zeos recommended: Micca Covo-s for 40$ the pair (a factor in my decision was also that I had the speaker stands I was using for the cheap Logitech 5.1 PC system I had. Speaker stands are expensive too so factor in that cost too). These speakers are honestly not great: I tried using a pair of ELAC B6 and yes, sorround was much better. But I like HDR and perfect blacks way more than better sorround, so I ended up returning the ELACs and kept the Miccas as my rear. Maybe I'll upgrade some other time.
- If you are like me and have neighbors and a wife who's not into loud explosion, you really don't need a crazy sub. I have the Elac S10 and that's *more* than enough for us, my wife wants me to keep it down. Get a cheap one! Mine was only about 100$. See Zeos's guide here: https://www.reddit.com/comments/5b1u99
- Invest in good fronts. I have the ELAC B6.2 and while I don't think they sound like the crazy expensive speakers that some friends have, they sound *much* better than a soundbar/integrated TV sound and are great for movies! Important: whatever you buy, you must buy a center channel that matches the left/right speakers. I have the ELAC Debut 2.0 C6.2 center, with the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Bookshelf Speakers as my L/R channels.
- Buy cheap speaker wire and strip it yourself!! I'm so bad with practical stuff that I was a bit intimidated by it, but honestly it's ridiculously simple. The guide that I liked before has a section on wires, read it. The sub has its own cable, remember to buy it (I bought the Amazon one).
- Buy cheap HDMI cables from AmazonBasics.
- I have these stands for my fronts: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PYV7LQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Compared to u/robotdinofight's guide, you lose some sound quality, but only where it matters least and you should save some 700$, enough money to go from the TCL to a LG OLED. Hope it helped!
Micca just came out with some pretty small speakers that aren't bad at all. If you want, you could check those out.
/u/zeospantera also just recommended these recently
Micca COVO-S Compact 2-Way Bookshelf Speakers https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N8265I8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_9YPlybKD5GBJJ
As per the /r/zeos guide.
I have been looking for a similar solution. I want a 2.0 setup for my bedroom where I can pair my fire tv and my echo dot. I was considering using this SMSL amp and the micca COVO-S speakers. I have the micca MB42X in my living room and they are solid, but I think bookshelf speakers are rather large for my bedroom. What I am looking for is something I can play music and tv through that is better than the tv and echo dot speakers. The drawbacks to this setup that I can think of without having tried it yet, is there is no remote for the volume and the fire tv may not play well with the amp's bluetooth. I am also not sure how switching through the bt and aux inputs will work. There are also no reviews for this particular amp on amazon or newegg or anywhere else for that matter that I can find.
Check out /r/budgetaudiophile and /r/diyaudio.
I'm thinking about building a pair of Overnight Sensations. The kit is costs about $140.
My only hesitation is I don't have a decent soldering iron. By the time I buy that, and the finish for the cabinets, I know I'm going to be up to about $190. For that price, I could get a pair of Micca MB42X speakers and a 8" powered sub.
Either set requires an amp, which will be another $60-80.
So for now, I put up with my old Bose Companions, which really sound pretty thin.