Best pc gaming mice according to redditors

We found 2,861 Reddit comments discussing the best pc gaming mice. We ranked the 557 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.

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Top Reddit comments about PC Gaming Mice:

u/maidguitar · 24 pointsr/gifs

This is because most 'office' mice have 400dpi sensors. In order to be able to use these windows settings and yet have the mouse be sensitive enough to be used comfortably, you need a higher dpi mouse. Most "gaming grade" mice, even on the cheaper end, have different dpi steps that range from 400 to 4000(and uselessly beyond - hooray marketing!) to allow you to adjust the "speed" of your cursor on the hardware end, while still keeping the precision of 1:1 pixel mapping in windows via the settings I mentioned earlier.

If you'd like such a mouse at a relatively inexpensive price, steelseries and logitech make some not-so-bad mice that wouldn't look so out of place in an office.

TL;DR: turn off enhanced precision, set windows to 6/11 sensitivity to get 1:1 pixel mapping, adjust the mouse dpi to how fast you want it, never skip pixels again.

u/DrDoanut · 22 pointsr/G502MasterRace
u/itsZiz · 20 pointsr/buildapc

I started with just a few things and then listed everything I see... sorry for the spam
(these are all things I have, feel free to ask any Q's)

- Mini Fridge -

- Cup -

- Air Cleaner -

- Good Chair Mat -

- Big Boy Ergo Chair -

- Camera Mount -

- Space Heater -

- LED Lights -

- Foot Rest -

- Wrist Rest -

- Underdesk Headphone hanger -

- Trash Can -

- Cat Bed -

- Keyboard -

- Keycaps -

- Mouse -

- Mouse Mat -

- Headphones -

- Dac/Amp -

- Speakers -

- Subwoofer -

- Mic -

- Mic Interface -

- Boom Arm -

- Web Cam Alternative -

- Lens -

- PC Cam Interface -

- Lights Boxes -

- Light Box Stands & Clamp -

- Light Bulbs -

u/storm_bow · 17 pointsr/buildapc

this mouse for example was made with the help of esports players, yet imo it looks pretty "non gamey"

u/BananaVoid · 16 pointsr/MouseReview

> Avago 9800 laser engine,


>“aerodynamic honeycomb design”


> retail at $90


u/somethingneeddooing · 16 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

I'm fairly certain it's the Logitech G102/203, in white of course.

IMO it's one of the best mice within that price point.

u/Artesian · 15 pointsr/buildapc

Corsair. Turn off the LEDs. Minimal enough.

This will feel like heaven on your hand. Logitech ergonomics are amazing.

Simpler option from Logitech.

Same as above but wired so cheaper.

Remember that white will discolor slightly over time from the oils in your skin and friction. This is less visible on darker black/gray mice, obviously - hence their popularity. Not many periperhals get as much hand time as mice.

u/Jediknightluke · 14 pointsr/wow

A MMO mouse will completely change the game for you. Back before my wife and I were married I would visit her on the weekends, and one weekend I left my naga over there and didn't play WoW for the whole week. You just get so accustomed to it.
Nagas are normally really expensive, but there are really good alternatives. This mouse is around 30 bucks on Amazon and has 5 stars.

I need to get me a gaming keyboard, I have never had one before so idk how well those would benefit me. I'm just using an old PS2 keyboard now.

edit- Been here almost 4 years and just got my first gold. Thank you so much! I love this community :)

u/LordOfTheMaggots · 14 pointsr/MouseReview
u/Drarrhat · 12 pointsr/buildapcsales
u/JD2Chill · 10 pointsr/MouseReview

Not much of a fan of SteelSeries these days but a few years ago I liked my Sensei RAW. Also (very similar to the Sensei RAW) I find the DM1 FPS to be pretty sweet.

u/raucon · 10 pointsr/VideoEditing

I love this mouse.. It takes some time to program, and a PC I believe. But I have every button linked to a hot key so I can zoom in and out, make an edit, add a transition, jump to the next clip, delete, move up or down a track, copy, paste, in, out and many more useful hot keys all in one hand. It's probably doubled my editing speed and I memorized all the buttons in about 2 days. Not a bad price either. Another popular mouse is the Razer Naga Chroma I think you can use a Mac to program that one.

u/Foshkey · 9 pointsr/ffxiv

Or any MMO mouse! Not here to bash Razer (Naga is a really nice mouse), but for a budget, you can easily find a decent MMO mouse for $30.

I use this one ($38 atm). Combined with modifier keys (I use Alt, Shift, and Alt-Shift), you have 48 actions readily available.

u/CoolAsAPool · 9 pointsr/pcmasterrace

utechsmart venus, it's quite a nice mouse for the price and I've been happy with it so far. Very durable, it's been through a lot of use for almost a year now and looks like it did the day i got it.

u/zanobi_gw2 · 9 pointsr/Guildwars2

I've used the Redragon M901 PERDITION for about a year and a half and it works well. It won't be the highest quality product, and the buttons can feel cramped if you have large hands. On the plus side it is only 35$ compared to the typical higher prices of better quality gaming mice.

u/Sub_Salac · 9 pointsr/buildapcsales

Found your dream mouse, the RED DRAGON PERDITION HIGH PRECISION PROGRAMMABLE gaming mouse with a whopping...

16 THOUSAND four HUNDRED DPI. At half the price of this junky, plain looking 3k dpi mouse. 60 Dollars for THAT?! Pardon our ignorance, but the RedDragon is half that price. 5 times the DPI. 20 times the buttons. SICK gaming aesthetic... RED LEDS?!?! RED!? That's like... so aggressive!

Bro.. we've done it. We've found the best mouse in the universe.

u/mako482 · 9 pointsr/wow

Highly recommend getting an "MMO mouse". You can try out a decent one cheap for about $35. Well worth it. I recommend this one for starters

u/Lacasax · 9 pointsr/buildapcsales

Also available on Amazon for the same price in case some of you have prime shipping.

Edit: Out of Stock

u/mattyod93 · 8 pointsr/ffxiv

Honestly i used to do stuff like this all the time. But it still felt way too busy for me. So i bought a mouse with 12 buttons on the side as i play a lot of mmos. It's honestly so nice i only use my keyboard for WASD, CTRL, ALT and Shift. Everything else is bound to my mouse. I could never go back now.

If you're looking to get one i recommend (like many) the Razer Naga. Or if you're on a budget (Like me) I found this one on amazon:

It does the job and I've no complaints with it. It even comes with it's own program so you can change the macros on it.

Here is my UI in game:

u/ItCanAlwaysGetWorse · 8 pointsr/wow

just to give you an idea or some inspiration, this is my setup:

I play Beast Master, a ranged DD
W - forward
S - backward
A - strafe left (not turn)
D - strafe right (not turn)
note: I dont have keybindings for turning around, I use the mouse for that by holding right mouse button

1 - one of the main abilities I use all the time
2 - main ability for AoE
3 - 6 utility abilities like stun, slow, misdirection etc. - situational abilities that I dont need all the time.

Q - one of the main abilities
E - one of the main abilities
I also bound the following keys:

All keybinds except C also have a Shift and/or Ctrl modifier.
My essential keybinds are Q, E, R, 1 and 2 by themselves and also with Shift held down, that's 10 keybinds.

to be fair, I also bought a cheapo 35€ MMO-mouse which has 12 thumb buttons, those are mostly utility skills or things like pre-pot, health potion/healthstone, keybind for mounting up etc. BUT I also have 1 important ability on there: my interrupt.

I also use OPie to further decrease the amount of keybinds I need for all the things I wanted to access relatively fast. On my OPie rings I also just use stuff I dont need in the middle of the combat, because using OPie in combat takes too long.

Now your question regarding movement: While holding W with my middle finger, I can easily press 1, 2 and Q with my ring finger. 3-6, which I usually dont need while moving forward, can still be accessed with the index finger easily enough.
While holding D with my index finger, I use my middle finger to press Q, E, R and 1-4.
While holding A with my ring finger, I use my middle finger to press Q, 1 and 2. I use my index finger for E, R, F and 3-6.
You will need to twist your wrist to reach certain keybinds while pressing others simultaneously, but this is really not a problem.

Also might be worth noting: F is also a utility keybind for me, not part of my damage rotation. F is my movement skill (disengage for Hunters, Blink for mages etc.) while Shift + F is my self-heal. C is just my move pet command.

u/AMY_bot · 8 pointsr/buildapcsales

For less messy amazon links you can extract the part after "/dp/" in

and make it:

Or via smile link:


Plz send any recommendations via PM

u/Nickolaus · 8 pointsr/OverwatchUniversity

Wireless mice have improved a lot in the past couple of years. Increasing over time you're finding that pro players are opting to use wireless mice. The G403 and G903 are usually suggested for players who are wanting wireless mouse options.

> Mechanical or membrane keyboard?

/r/MechanicalKeyboard has in their Buying Guide page all about the different switches. There are also some suggestions that you can look at too. Mechanical keyboards are going to offer you tactile feedback, especially if you're using blue switches or browns; while also being responsive and consistent. Membranes function on pressing down on a plastic bubble until it collapses. They are much more spongy and less consistent. Are membrane keyboards bad? Nah. Mechanical keyboards do have their advantages such as requiring and precise time presses.

> Thumb buttons on my mouse?

Preference. Usually most mice at the minimum have a DPI switch plus mouse 4 and mouse 5 buttons. If you're playing MOBAs you may want to consider options with a lot more buttons.

> What size mousemat?

As large as your table can fit. The larger room that you have, the more room you have for aiming with your arm and not wrist. Since you're brand new to PC gaming you'll probably develop your own way of aiming. The larger the mouse mat you'll typically have a lot lower sensitivity.

u/jschild · 7 pointsr/Games

Razor Naga didn't even last a year. Very poor build quality.

I've had a Redragon Perdition mouse for past couple years and it's been great and it was half the price of the Naga.

EDIT: One thing nice about the side buttons is that they are slanted like a very shallow V, so you know exactly which buttons you are touching. Only thing you have to keep track of, and it's very easy to, is which set of V's you are in (1-6 first set of V, 7-12 for the second set).

u/GeForceRTX · 7 pointsr/Blackops4

All the orange bits:

App: Wallpaper Engine


Monitor: Alienware AW3418DW

CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i Pro


Keyboard: ROCCAT Horde AIMO

Mouse: SteelSeries Rival 300

u/Thebubumc · 6 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/AndyOB · 6 pointsr/DestinyTheGame

Have you ever thought about something like this? I bought one of these for WoW and sometimes end up playing LoL with one hand just because I can.

u/justhere4inspiration · 6 pointsr/classicwow

Razer is a scam, IMO their products just don't hold up that well for the ridiculous price tag. Everything I've bought from them is now broken, and I won't buy anything else. It's all marketing. Personally, I prefer logitec but I decided for WoW I'd try just picking up a cheapo MMO mouse, and honestly so far it's been great. I've been using it for around a year, started on PServers, and had zero issues so far:

It's that brand and has the same side button configuration but whichever one I have doesn't have all the RGB lights all over it. Less than half the price of a naga, and has a thumb shelf.

u/cracktr0 · 6 pointsr/summonerschool

Mechanical keyboards are great. Razor is good for mice, I'd choose someone else for keyboard though. Corsair makes good products in both categories, I'd start there. I have a 10-keyless k65 corsair, but they have full size versions of the same if you prefer a numpad.

Is the one I have and I have no complaints after 1+ years :)

Mouse suggestion ^^

I know these are both probably slightly outside your price-range but they are definitely worth their costs.

u/EqulixV2 · 6 pointsr/MouseReview

deathadder essential the same thing as the chroma but no rgb.
G403 A bit outside your budget but its worth it.
G102 same thing as
whatever you do, don't buy the $15 back alley abortion of a mouse.

u/aristTV · 6 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

What is in this picture?

Topre Realforce RGB bought from Amazon Prime.

EnjoyPBT white caps w/ black English and red Hangul lettering bought from AliExpress.

Colored PBT modifier keys from Amazon Prime.

Logitech G PRO mouse bought from Amazon Prime.

Steelseries QCK+ mousepad from Steelseries.

ASUS VG248QE 144hz monitor from Amazon Prime.

u/GhostOfAscalon · 6 pointsr/buildapcsales

Fry's had these for $15 ($20 now), bought a few spares. $20 on Amazon right now as well, black sold out.

Good mouse, It's a G Pro with Logitech's Mercury sensor instead of a 3366 and smooth cable instead of braided. Only downside AFAIK is you can't modify liftoff distance in drivers, and it annoys me that even with RGB disabled it turns on during boot up.

u/Zodspeed · 6 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/downthecrop · 5 pointsr/Destiny

Why on earth would you sell a used mouse for over asking price of new? Hehe xd

u/EskimoNoise · 5 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Roccat Kone XTD
Good if you have larger than average hands

u/fptp01 · 5 pointsr/shutupandtakemymoney

It's a R.A.T. 9 mouse and I love it.

I used to have the R.A.T. 5 but the cable kept getting in the way so I got the 9 since its wireless.

u/kyuss80 · 5 pointsr/MouseReview

They made the Xornet, but I never managed to get one.

I've been keeping my eyes on a cheap Redragon mouse. They have one that looks "similar-ish" in shape to that of the Spawn... I really prefer a ring finger rest area.

u/Elendil358 · 5 pointsr/Guildwars2

I'm currently running the Logitech G502 and I'm more than happy with it. For a lower budget however you could have a look at the G402 Hyperion.

u/PandiReddits · 5 pointsr/hardwareswap

The Deathadder Chroma sells for $70 new, its even discounted right now on amazon for $54, I was in a thread earlier and someone sold one for $35. Adjust your price if you really want to sell it.

u/_paramedic · 5 pointsr/hackintosh

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The DAYUM Build (AKA The You Spend Irresponsibly Build) ~ $5500

Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor | $554.98 @ NCIX US
CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $89.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard | $391.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $594.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $229.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Case | Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case | $124.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply | Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $405.98 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.98 @ OutletPC
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter | Rosewill RNX-N150UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter | $11.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $5407.40
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-28 05:09 EST-0500 |

This shit is gonna blow any Mac Pro away. In fact, it'll blow everything away. You better have a backup generator. And you better know what you're getting into smh. Btw, I have no idea whether this is Hackintosh-compatible. Asus motherboards can be tricky but if you're going to invest this much money you might as well invest the time to set it all up. Or hire someone. Whatever. Oh, and still cheaper than a "comparable" (lol, it doesn't compare) Mac Pro by like, $4000. Buy yourself a render farm. Or more than one computer. Or the Apple Store.


Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | $104.99 @ SuperBiiz
Thermal Compound | Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste | $6.49 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-H87N Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard | $96.98 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $61.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $82.99 @ NCIX US
Case | Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case | $78.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | Corsair RM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $88.99 @ Directron
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $521.42
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-28 05:18 EST-0500 |

Time for the render node! You only really need a processor and stuff that fits with it. I went barebones with this, and stuffed it all into the smallest case I could while leaving breathing room for cooling. You can stack these on top of each other. Better yet, buy an IKEA drawer set and put them in drawers. Remember to carve out the back to allow for air to escape and to manage cables. Voila! Your own render farm, nicely tucked next to your desk.

Disclaimer: I got the render-farm-in-drawers idea from this guy. I saw it on a blog like year or two ago, I had no idea he started a website. Check it out!


For video editing, gaming, and general use, I recommend the following monitor because it isn't glossy (fuck glare!), is LED-backlit, has IPS technology for amazing viewing angles and color reproduction, is HDMI-compatible, 1080p, has a fast response time (5 ms), and is relatively affordable (about $160 USD street.)

If you want headphones, check these out. They're great middle-range headphones that are good for music, gaming, and other general use.

If you're doing audio work, I recommend using monitors for accurate sound-reproduction and to avoid coloring your mixes. A ton of people I know swear by these. Remember to treat your room! There are great tips and guides for all genres of music over at r/edmproduction. Don't let the name fool you; they have some great stuff for everyone.

In terms of mice, any will do; I personally recommend this one, though.

In terms of keyboards, use whatever you're comfortable with. I know a lot of people swear by mechanical keyboards, especially keyboards that have CherryMX keys. I personally hate them because I'm far more accurate with chiclet keyboards. However, I plan to change my key caps to some that are shallower/need to be pressed harder to register (I currently have Cherry MX Reds, want to switch to Browns). The great thing about mechanical keyboards is that they are customizable! If you are used to Apple Keyboards, this keyboard should provide a good balance between the feel of chiclet keys and that of a mechanical keyboard.

If you're balking at these prices, you're not alone. Unfortunately, quality products mean shelling out hard-earned moolah. If you can afford it and think it will be valuable to you, I think these products should work well for their intended purposes and have good quality. I have personally used all of these products. Of course, don't take my word for it; look around r/buildapc, r/headphones, and r/edmproduction for more recommendations.

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u/M1ndl355 · 5 pointsr/MouseReview

Finding a mouse at that price point with a flawless sensor is kind of tricky. The EVGA x3 or x5 is very competitively priced at this moment, but it is a little smaller and more shaped like an abyssus. The Havit 1200 has a "flawless" sensor, but I have not used this exact model so I can't speak of the sensor implementation and build quality, and the same can be said of the Talentech Shadow2 & GranVela M639. But, in all honesty those are chinese OEM mice so they might not be worthwhile. My vote is the Evga x3 or the x5, the size isn't that bad just be sure to not accidentally purchase the L (laser) options.

So to answer your question, I don't see any decent mice with that exact shape for that price. Ergonomics, "Flawless" Sensor, Under $30; choose two.

That being said I've seen the deathadder on sale for a little over $30 recently. Even a newegg retailer has one currently listed at $40, Amazon has one for $45, and I've seen them on sale at my local walmart & local Target for around $35.

u/Tehstool · 5 pointsr/MouseReview
u/waterdoctor22 · 5 pointsr/MouseReview
u/alectrolytes · 5 pointsr/buildapcsales

The white version of the G203 is normally this price on amazon. The G102 and G203 are the same mice, but available in different regions.

u/scumberg · 4 pointsr/GlobalOffensive

It's your mouse, I used to have the same problem with a cheap mouse, to be fair if you want to solve the problem you're going to have to get a good mouse. I recommend the Steelseries Sensei Raw if you're looking for a budget mouse that preforms very well.

u/BeanSkittled · 4 pointsr/buildapcsales

Not sure if the mouse is worth it as I have never actually used it but this mouse is normally $25 on amazon and dips down to $20 some times. This is not much of a sale if you consider it's only $5 off its regular price on amazon.

u/SuToLoTuS · 4 pointsr/buildapc

I use the Red R.A.T 9. If you are into spending way too much for super customization and a cool look.

u/thatnguy · 4 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/WittyLack · 4 pointsr/Technoblade

If he somehow hasn't changed his mouse in the past 5 years, a Razer mouse (vid). Maybe this one?

u/c-span_celebrity · 4 pointsr/editors

I'm using the utech venus I bought on a whim as a cheap knock off Logitech G600.

Love it! But when I replace it I'll spend the extra for Logitech. Utech doesn't have full support on OSX so if you want to update any of your short cut buttons you have to use a PC. Once updated they transfer... but you know the whole command vs control doing different things in your software on the different operating systems. You can get a work-around for a bunch but not all.

The 12 buttons on the side are over kill. I'd prefer 6 bigger ones that'd I'd be more accurate with, but it's a pretty minor complaint for this mouse saving me literally 30+ mins a day of repetitive keystrokes... oh god zooming in and out of the timeline in Media Composer is just a thumb click

u/Sweetwill62 · 4 pointsr/techsupportgore

I took a chance on this $30 dollar mouse and I will have to say it is completely worth 30 dollars. I've used and abused it for close to 2 years now and the only actual complaint I have for it is the fact that it only has one mouse button near the left click instead of the two that the naga has. I got used to it but really for $30 I really can't complain a whole lot.

u/CrowSpine · 4 pointsr/pcmasterrace

You know, I actually bought this same exact keyboard about 2 months ago and I love it. It's the first mechanical keyboard that I've bought and although I didn't look closely enough at it on Amazon and I bought one without a number pad, I still don't regret it. I've been using this mouse for about two years too and their stuff, although cheap compared to other brands, actually seems alright.

u/VictorMorson · 4 pointsr/OutreachHPG


It's not a major mouse brand, which might instantly turn off a lot of people. However, it's highly programmable, has all of the bells and whistles of an $80 mouse, feels incredibly durable and is not made from flimsy stuff, and the software is utterly amazingly easy to key bind anything you'd like to any button on the mouse, including customizing the DPI. [The DPI buttons can even be re-assigned, with no restrictions.] It's very simple and lightweight, too; it's very good at what it does without any bloat.

The light color change sounds like a gimmick but since you can assign a different color and glow pattern to each profile (which takes about 2 seconds to swap), it helps you easily ID what is loaded onto the mouse.

The drivers are flawless and the button layout is very good; after day 2 with the mouse, I never hit the side buttons on accident thanks to their design.

Long story short, I've had high end expensive mice for many, many years and this is easily the best mouse I've owned in a while. Very sturdy, reliable, and considerably more customizable than the more well known multi-button mice. With 5 customizable DPI levels, it's perfect for MechWarrior, as well.

And all this for the price of a cheap "new computer" freebie-quality mouse. I really recommend this thing. If you're willing to consider a smaller hardware manufacturer, you'll way more than get your money's worth.. doubly so since you get all this for under forty bucks.

ED: The side buttons work very well for MW:O, from strikes to UAVs to coolant, it's nice to have it all on the same location.

ED2: Because of the above I've taken to not customizing games I play all the time, but customizing the mouse to the game. That was doubly nice in Star Citizen since it lacks key binds right now.

u/TapedeckNinja · 4 pointsr/elderscrollsonline

Get an MMO mouse, map all of your abilities to the extra buttons on the mouse.

Something like this:

Or this:

u/JohnyEZ · 4 pointsr/pcmasterrace

If you have friends you open your selection up greatly. I recommend lethal league, duck game, civ 5, warframe, g mod, Don't starve together, borderlands 2, rocket league, csgo, speed runners, killing floor 1 or 2, portal 1 and 2, Monaco, overwatch, league of legends(for some people), and payday 2.

And for single player:
Alien: Isolation, stardew valley, prison architect, Faster than light, Fallout 3, NV, and 4, skyrim, skyrim: enderal, GTA 5, Just Cause 3, shadows of mordor, Batman Arkham city, papers please, shovel knight, bio shock infinite,doom, dragon age inquisition, this is the police, journey, Abzu, witcher 3, wolfenstein, ,Metal Gear Solid 5, Deus Ex games, and dust force.

There's more but not off the top of my head but msg me if you want more suggestions.

And for Mice, FinalMouse:

Razer Death Adder:

u/onlywrin · 4 pointsr/Guildwars2

Well.... here's some great mice for under your $50 minimum. The Logitech 300 series (300, 302, 303) are all 20-40 and are my personal recommendation if you're on a budget.

Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury FPS Gaming Mouse with High Speed Fusion Engine (910-004069)

SteelSeries Rival 100, Optical Gaming Mouse - Black

Logitech G300s Optical Gaming Mouse (910-004360)

Corsair Gaming Sabre RGB Gaming Mouse, Light Weight, 10000 DPI, Optical, Multi Color

Corsair CH-9301011-NA Gaming Harpoon RGB Gaming Mouse, Backlit RGB LED, 6000 DPI, Optical

u/Irideae · 4 pointsr/buildapcsales

Isn't this a pretty standard price for this thing? I also don't really think it's a good price for an older mouse like this, with a laser sensor especially.

If you're absolutely in love with steelseries or the general shape get a rival 100 for $24, or $16 if you can catch it on their website(it has a better sensor for gaming, and similar button layout/shape for non-gaming use):

Or if you have more to spend, you can pretty easily pick up mice with better sensors for $35~$40 from logitech, razer corsair or even steelseries themselves.

u/RunNHyde13x · 4 pointsr/buildapc

Comes with a giant mouse pad though! Lmao.

I'm trying to remember what other mice I looked into before buying this one.

Edit: How about this one? This was my other choice before the Ducky.

u/ethansky · 4 pointsr/Overwatch

Logitech g pro on amazon is on sale iirc

Yup, onsale for $49.99, normally $69.99

u/aikosaka · 4 pointsr/buildapcsales


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u/shimmeringball · 4 pointsr/buildapc

I actually upgraded the same mouse to a Logitech G203 Prodigy, it's around $27 here and has a very good sensor.

u/libre_office_warlock · 3 pointsr/battlestations

The mouse is this guy and the keyboard is this one. I was really sad that Razer didn't make lefty mice with the larger array of side buttons (or didn't seem to at the time; I wanted a Naga and maybe didn't look hard enough), but it does the job.

u/PrionBacon · 3 pointsr/buildapc

Razer has always been good with providing left hand options:

Basic 2 thumb button DeathAdder $54:

More complicated 12 thumb button Naga $74:

I can't provide any personal experiences with them though.

u/dumbchum · 3 pointsr/buildapc

for those who don't want a mouse that looks like a piece of deconstructivist architecture try steel series sensei raw

u/thatsnotright666 · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

The diablo 3 mouse was a version of the steelseries sensei. A regular steelseries sensei will be basically identical other than the different coating. A steelseries sensei RAW is again identical (with a more similar coating this time) however the dpi can only be set to multiples of 90. Both of those mice are very very similar to the diablo 3 mouse.

u/ToasterMops · 3 pointsr/GiftIdeas
  1. Gaming mice tend to be quite pricey if you get a branded one. Unless you're a pro (like super precise fps stuff) I highly recommend Perixx. Its literally half the price, mine's been working great for the past 4 years and its on amazon.

  2. As for LED lighting, again HUE+ is quite expensive for the functionality. Go for
    If you want something that just works.

  3. I got myself a drone last year but ended up playing with it like 3-4 times. There's a very high chance that it'll just end up in storage

  4. Personally I recommend a nice tech backpack or satchel. Checkout CaseCrown for tech orientated packs
u/Richard__Rahl · 3 pointsr/thedivision

>Get a MECHANICAL keyboard.

This. I have the corsair k70 myself (cherry mx red).

Edit: For a mouse, I have the ROCCAT Kone XTD.

u/DrakeAU · 3 pointsr/Briggs

If you ever decide to get a new mouse, I recommend the Mad Catz R.A.T 9. Similar to the Thermaltake but much more adjustable.

u/CReaper210 · 3 pointsr/pcgaming

I really don't know why you'd be getting pains so I can't help you there.

But I do want to point out that there are Deathadders without the rubber grip if you want to try those out.

Personally, I use the Steelseries Rival 300 and it's the most comfortable mouse I've owned. It's the same basic layout of the Deathadder, just a bit larger. It does have the rubber grips, I'm not sure if they feel the same as the Deathadder grips though.

u/nate_- · 3 pointsr/MouseReview
u/Veiocity · 3 pointsr/australia

I would highly recommend the Razer Deathadder.
Most Razer products are overpriced and not that great, but I really like the deathadder. Simple and reliable. I would also recommend using a mousemat like this with it.

u/midfield99 · 3 pointsr/gis

A Razer DeathAdder.

It's made for gaming, but I really like the mouse. I've heard a few complaints about durability, but I've had mine for awhile and have not had any problems. I also got a really good deal, I don't know if I would want to pay the normal price.

u/Wisgood · 3 pointsr/editors

Definitely not enough buttons for me on those.

Try a 18-button gaming mouse like this:
Or this:

If anyone knows of something with more buttons hmu.

It's so great to have modifiers on your thumb. Shift click drag, and then alt click ripple edits all day.

Thumb buttons:


  • Zoom in

  • zoom out


    J rewind

    L forward

    Enter render

    Shift-E (en/disable)

    Ctrl Z undo

    V (pointer)

    C (razor)

    A (track selection)

    My wheel button is set to spacebar, my dpi up arrow is Ctrl (use for paste with c and v thumb buttons), my dpi down arrow is save.

    I also use a Logitech g-13 on left hand with thumbstick mouse and mostly the same macros plus buttons for delete/paste/copy/cut/up/down/save/render/j/k/l/i/o/c/v/a/x/marker/space/

    And then some more advanced macros such as one button for (razor here, select forward, cut selection, select gap, delete gap), another the same except (razor select backward, cut, select/delete gap), and then I use (ctrl-shift-v paste insert) on the timeline above.

    Macros are awesome. Just don't get lost in button wonderland. Or do. Actually, do. It's so worth it. Wonderland is awesome.
u/scoyne15 · 3 pointsr/MMORPG

I have owned a Naga and a G600. Both are fine. But honestly I am using this $30 one now for the past year and it works great.

UtechSmart Venus Gaming Mouse RGB Wired, 16400 DPI High Precision Laser Programmable MMO Computer Gaming Mice [IGN's Recommendation]

u/RainbowGoddamnDash · 3 pointsr/graphic_design

I bought one that was similar.

UtechSmart Venus

It's a knockoff of the g600.

u/MrRado · 3 pointsr/wow

If you're not wanting a full keypad - Logitech Proteus - $50 US

If you do like full keypads - Logitech G600 - $53 US

Logitech does pretty good with their mice. While I like the Razer Naga better in use, the G600 is more durable in my experience.

That said, there's plenty of less known brands for cheaper prices that still have decent ratings such as the UtechSmart Venus - $39 US


^^- ^^prices ^^pulled ^^10/10/2018 ^^under ^^a ^^prime ^^account.

u/TheValx · 3 pointsr/MapleStory2

If you have or can order something like this, I think it would be pretty easy:

Set your hotkeys to the number pad along with jump and you can use mouse movement for character control. I use this control scheme with wasd movement but it could easily be modified for one handed use.

u/Frostbitten_zF · 3 pointsr/whatisthisthing

This is it! My brother bought a new mouse a little while ago, this must have come with it. It is a UntechSmart Venus MMO gaming mouse. Of course when I asked him what this thing was he had no idea... Thank you!

u/Luminaria19 · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I have this mouse. It regularly goes on sale for $30 or so. It's not a big brand, but hasn't failed me yet (have had it for a few years now) and the extra buttons are fantastic.

He's going to have a rough time getting both a many-buttoned mouse and headset for $50 though, at least if he wants anything of quality. A good headset can run that or more on its own.

u/Petra_Abelli · 3 pointsr/ffxiv

I second this, I've been using the Naga for years now and don't think I would ever want to go back. Razer has had the market to themselves for a long time, but I stumbled upon these while looking for the naga and g600 links. It's good to see that there's some competition coming in the market, but I couldn't tell you if these two are worth getting.


u/Orange_Spindle · 3 pointsr/gaming

Utech smart Venus

Gaming Mouse, UtechSmart Venus 16400 DPI High Precision Laser MMO Gaming Mouse [ IGN's PICK]

I think they're good but inexpensive

u/TurquoiseLuck · 3 pointsr/GuildWars

>I'm lazy and use the mouse for 90% of my movement

That's why I have one of these:

Just use all the buttons on the side, and use WASD, c, tab, and spacebar.

u/skitthecrit · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales
u/Mabbubupu · 3 pointsr/buildapc

Thanks for the thoughts, although im pretty sure i'll need the optical drive for my drivers for my mouse and tablet

u/Arbybeay · 3 pointsr/buildapc

My favorite mouse of all time. Not for the dpi (I only go up to 1200), but for the superb feel in hand. I don't have any complaints with this mouse at all.

u/OddTheViking · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

I have somewhat large hands, but I have been very happy with my Redragon Mammoth.

Adjustable DPI is nice. I don't move my wrist either, and it's easy to grip.

u/ksamim · 3 pointsr/ffxiv

Gonna echo what several other users said. My wife uses a G600, and I prefer the Redragon Perdition.

u/DubiousEthicality · 3 pointsr/MMORPG

Redragon Perdition. I picked this up for $35 last December, intending to use it for a couple of months. It has since seen a month of playtime in FFXIV, and plenty in other MMOs. I use it every single day and can't recommend it enough.

And it's 4.5 stars on Amazon with 2.5k reviews, which is pretty crazy.

Edit: a word

u/uzuhl · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

Yeah, I can't see a use for 16.4k DPI on a mouse at all, and that's coming from someone who does use a high DPI. I usually have mine sitting at around 3500-4000 (to be fair, I don't play any FPS games). And those seem slow to me but I still wouldn't touch 16.4k.

Also, if you want painful, then here you go.

u/DriveByStoning · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales

I'm not the person you responded to or a shill, but I've had this mouse for years and it's great.

u/President_Bacon · 3 pointsr/paragon

The keyboard is a wired cheap one. Like $15. And the mouse is this
Redragon M901 PERDITION 16400 DPI High-Precision Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse (Black)

And I haven't noticed any lag.

u/AnxietyTuna · 3 pointsr/ffxiv

I bet it's your mouse. I have a cheap Chinese mouse (M901 Perdition) that did this exact thing a few months ago. I would enter instanced content and do the first half smoothly and then suddenly right clicking to turn my camera would cut my frames in half for a split second. You can tell it's not an issue with rendering because right clicking and turning the camera a couple degrees (not enough to cause a huge dip in FPS due to rendering) would drop the framerate by about 10-15.

Fortunately for me it fixed itself and I don't have to worry about it anymore but something that would fix it temporarily is - while FF14 is running - opening the manufacturer's mouse software tool, changing the DPI to some arbitrary value, applying it, then changing it back to my desired value. I wish I knew why this worked for me. At the end of the day it was a software incompatibility between my mouse's drivers and FF14. Didn't happen with any other games. Even ones with similar control schemes and/or higher graphical requirements.

The point of this is to offer my anecdote to hopefully dissuade you from completely ruling out your mouse as a vector for framerate issues because it happened to me and it was maddening. Get yourself a cheap mouse, see if the issue persists, and return the mouse.

u/KHEIRON · 3 pointsr/classicwow

Those mice are way nice with the 12 buttons.

Redragon M901 PERDITION 16400 DPI...

Here is the one I've used for 2 years. It is pretty cheap but really good

u/keikii · 3 pointsr/ProgrammerHumor

I bought this a while back, because I needed a new mouse. The biggest selling point for me is that there are two programmable keys on it (the zoom button and the thumb spot). I have it programmed for copy and paste (I use dvorak, it can be a pain to copy and paste a lot of stuff at once), but it could easily programmed for an enter. There are plenty of other gaming mice with even more buttons, too.

u/Dime-Baggins · 3 pointsr/Guildwars2

I used to use the Corsair m95 until I found this one the "Redragon Perdition" It's badass and I've have had 3 other friends that play mmo's buy them after they tried mine. Not sure about the Mac thing though.

u/jettivonaviska · 3 pointsr/Diablo

I used this mouse for 3 years before I replaced it (60+ hours a week use on average). It's a lesser known brand, but I've enjoyed the mouse a lot, and it's a bit cheaper than the big names (Logitech, Corsair, Razer, and the like). I know you said it takes awhile to save up money for splurges on things like this, but it might be easier to save for since it's a little cheaper. I'm glad you all enjoy your time playing the game!

u/creepypriest · 3 pointsr/pcgaming
u/Canuhandleit · 3 pointsr/Sketchup

This one is $36. I'm getting the Logitech G600 because it's a little less riced-out, and a bit more professional-looking, but it's also a tax write-off, so.. there you go.

u/point-0 · 3 pointsr/italyTV
u/bofstein · 3 pointsr/GirlGamers

I hate the buttons there; no matter what the design, they seem to dig unto my palm rest. I think it's because I have such tiny hands - in order to keep my fingers up at the buttons, my palm starts sooner than average (even relative to the average woman; I'm only 4'11") and so end up sitting on those middle buttons uncomfortably.

I don't usually use thumb buttons either, even for gaming, but most non-gaming mice that are less likely to have those middle buttons either aren't sensitive or durable enough for what I'm looking for. I've read through some old threads here to find mice suggestions for people with small hands, but every one I've tried still has center buttons. Or when I finally find one without, like this one, reviews say it's especially good for big hands.

I just bought this from the store, hoping a non-gaming mouse would be okay, but it just isn't smooth or good feeling, not sure if that's because of the sensitivity or the material or the wireless factor. I didn't want wireless but it was all I could find in what I was looking for that was comfortable to hold.

u/19th · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales
u/iamgroot91 · 3 pointsr/DotA2

Don't get a laptop if you have that budget. Try getting a good keyboard and a mouse. I use Corsair Vengence K70 Red Switches and Razor Deathadder Chroma

u/foxual · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

That's a sweetspot pricepoint for LOTS of great mice. All have the latest and greatest sensors, just pick one you think would fit your hand and grip best (in no particular order):

u/Remmib · 3 pointsr/unrealtournament

I recommend the Zowie EC1-A (I have the older version of this mouse, but just read the first review on that page, the guy nails everything).

I also came from a Deathadder and love this mouse even more (with my only gripe being the side thumb buttons, just like the guy in the review above).

The shape of the EC1-A is very similar to the DA, however if the DA is shaped like )( on the sides, the EC1 is shaped like )). A small difference, but one that you will quickly adapt to. It fits your hand like a glove.

The EC1 beats out the DA in a few different aspects:

  • Very light rubber cord

  • Huge mousefeet (with a spare set included)

  • Stiffer switches (never a miss-click)

  • No software to fuck with

    I think the DA beats the EC1 on two points:

  • Better thumb buttons
  • Better scroll wheel for browsing internet and all around gaming (but Zowie's has more rigid/harder notches which I prefer in FPS games)

    At this point I will never buy another mouse that isn't Zowie, for FPS gaming.
u/TGPig · 3 pointsr/GlobalOffensive

When buying a mouse, make sure it has a good sensor and it is suited for your grip style (the most common grip styles being palm and claw).

My current mouse is a claw grip mouse, the Logitech G303. It has the PMW3366 sensor, which is arguably one of, if not, the best sensor on the market.

Other good brands are Zowie and SteelSeries.

edit: also, if you dont already, get a mousepad!

u/Wolfgangeth · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

You might want to look into the Logitech G303. It fits into your budget, it's a good "small hand" mouse, clicks are really nice, performs really well, and Logitech are known for making workhorse mice.

u/potsalium · 3 pointsr/NoStupidQuestions

Logitech G303 + Review

Logitech G102 + Review

Cougar Minos X3 + Review

All taken from this page, he's a great mouse reviewer.

u/SubZeroS3 · 3 pointsr/MouseReview


I just ordered the G303, it was $23 off on amazon and I couldn't resist. here's the link if anyone else wants to buy it:

u/Plumps_ · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

if you really don't want to go over $35 then definitely take the g302, if you can sped a few more you could go for the g303, which is $40 and has the same shape as the g302 but better sensor. some people also have problems with the g302 "wobbling" because it has no mouse feet on the sides of the mouse
you could also look at the logitech g203, also$40 it has a rounder shape than the g302 and is probably a safer choice than the g302 unless you know you are comfortable with the shape.

u/fallenlogan · 3 pointsr/buildapc

If you're looking for a mechanical keyboard here's the one i'm using right now and here's my mouse

u/lukeowenh · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I've heard good things about the SteelSeries Rival 100.

u/meeheecaan · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

Better buttons, top of the line sensor. More ergonomic shape.

u/Haymz · 3 pointsr/wow

If you want a cheaper alternative to the big brands, I recently got the Havit MS-735 and really like it.

u/qjakxi · 3 pointsr/buildapc

I have used this one since I got it for Christmas. I am very pleased with it. Especially at that price.

u/Diabel-Elian · 3 pointsr/softwaregore
u/p_rate · 3 pointsr/Rainbow6

Logitech G Pro on sale now. Really good mouse.

u/CarpalCripple · 3 pointsr/tf2

rip in pieces

this is a fantastic mouse if you're still looking for a new one

u/chlamydia1 · 3 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Logitech G403 Wireless

Top quality sensor and zero input lag.

u/FueledByBacon · 3 pointsr/bapcsalescanada

Edit: Because I was a Prime Member I ordered it last night, I had it on my desk by 2PM the next day.

You can also buy it for $103 on Amazon right now with free shipping, I think the extra $4 is worth it to not have to deal with NCIX and their shitty customer service, processing times and website.

Just an IMO though.

u/Unacceptable_Lemons · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales

Honestly, at the point of already spending $50, I'd probably spend the extra $25 wait for a $50 sale price for the g403 wireless. Latency, which was always my concern, is really low these days, on par with many wired mice, and battery life seems decent. Idk, some people might just not be interested in a wireless mouse though. For what it's worth, I have seen the deathadder chroma go for $35, and this mouse (deathadder elite) is quite similar to that one.

EDIT: The g403 wireless is actually on Amazon at the moment for $70 Only an extra $20, and I heard it has a similar fit/feel as the deathadder. per /u/Butt_Muff who has both, the G403 is smaller than the deathadder, so you may prefer/dislike that.

EDIT2: upon doing some BaPCS history searching, it would seem that the wireless g403 even goes as low as $50, matching this deathaddder elite sale. That pretty much confirms for me that I wouldn't play $50 for this one personally.

u/fiveman1 · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales
u/Jeremy24Fan · 3 pointsr/buildapcsales
u/Elementz_Reborn · 3 pointsr/LogitechG

Links to all products pictured:

Mouse: G502 Lightspeed

Mousepad: Powerplay

Mousemat: G840

Keyboard: G910 v2

Palm rest: (Because this wasn't included with the v2)

Speakers: G560

Headset: G533

Microphone: ModMic Wireless

Monitor: MP Zero-G 35" UWQHD

Secondary display: LG 29" UW

Tertiary display: ViewSonic 24" FHD

Charging cables: NetDot Magnetic Micro-USB

Phone dock: Wireless charging stand

Assistant vessel: Google Home Mini

u/rossipedia · 3 pointsr/MouseReview

$199 too much, $149 still feels steep, but after the G900/G903 and GPW, I can understand.


For those interested, Amazon product page is here:

u/1Bravo · 3 pointsr/LogitechG

Amazon link here. I pre-ordered mine

Interesting. If you scroll down you can compare it with the Wireless G-Pro and the battery also last 60 hrs.

u/Horny_Insomnia · 2 pointsr/wow

Razer makes a left handed 2 button and left handed MMO mouse. I've used both and would seggest them both.

u/jninja119 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Try a [single handed keyboard](DEEBOL 46-Key Wired Professional Singlehanded backlit Gaming Keyboard Mini Gaming Keypad Ergonomic Gamepad With 3-Color LED Backlight and a [left handed mouse.](Razer DeathAdder Essentials Ergonomic PC Gaming Mouse - Left Hand Edition - Comfortable Grip

Here are a few more single handed keyboards, I just posted the one I got for my friend who's a southpaw.
[1byone](1byone Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Professional Single-Handed Keypad with 29 Programmable Keys and Full RGB Backlit LED Control for Windows PC, Black
[razer ](Razer Tartarus Chroma Expert RGB Gaming Keypad with 25 Programmable Keys Including an 8-way Thumb-pad

I also recommend designing your own keyboard layout if you don't feel like buying a keypad. Perhaps using [PL;'] I have seen people do this, but being right handed I cannot speak from personal experience. I do know that basically every PC game has bindable keys, however a whole layout of them become a bit much.

Edit: spelling

u/Cerenitee · 2 pointsr/gaming

That sucks :(

I bought mine off Amazon, if that's an option for you. Though all the listings seem to indicate "Currently Unavailable" for new product (there are some used ones), so maybe they stopped making them which would be a shame.

There do seem to have a DeathAdder listed, its not a fancy as the Naga, but might work for you.

You are paying for the brand a bit with Razer, but that tends to be the case when you go for any "popular" gaming peripherals, I personal like them, but you have to decide whether the additional cost is worth it for you.

u/kurosen · 2 pointsr/funny
u/Marolen915 · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

Yes and no typically mice labelled as "Ergonomic" tend to be molded for either the right hand or left. As opposed to Ambidextrous mice which can be used for either hand.
Take for example this mouse imagine trying to use that with your right hand. Notice how its molded for only one hand to use it.

u/Kalranya · 2 pointsr/Overwatch

Razer does not currently make a dedicated lefty Deathadder, but you can still find the older one for sale, assuming you don't mind a weaker sensor and cheaper materials.

They do make a couple of amibextrous gaming mice: the Abyssus and Orochi are both usable in either hand, and the Lancehead appears to be as well.

Or you could just... suck it up and learn to play right-handed like most of us.

u/icedvariables · 2 pointsr/southpaws

I have a Left Handed Razer Deathadder. It's a tad pricey but has served me for a good few years now and is quite comfortable so I'm pretty happy with it.

u/TothB · 2 pointsr/GirlGamers

Mouse companies make left handed (as well as ambidextrous) mice

u/Shotsl0l · 2 pointsr/Overwatch

They don't make the OW mouse for left handed so here's another good Razer for left handed folk

u/nicxz · 2 pointsr/southpaws

I use symmetrical mice too, mostly for gaming (CS:GO). Currently on a Steelseries sensei rubberized. It's good because the side buttons are also on both sides of the mouse.

u/Strolb · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

I wanted to buy a Zowie after reading this subredit, but they seem to be out of stock on Amazon and I will have one imported from Canada (a friend lives there and another friend will visit him, so he will buy it for me). The bad thing is I dont have much time to waste. As my friend will be coming back from Canada around June the 20th.

So, I have some options that are currently available on Amazon:

u/R-A-S-0 · 2 pointsr/pcgaming

Here are some good ambidextrous mice:

u/MwSkyterror · 2 pointsr/DotA2

Corsair m45

Steelseries sensei

Steelseries rival

Razer deathadder

Roccat kone pure

Logitech g502

These are pretty good, in order of increasing price. I use the m45 myself because it was cheap and has a flawless sensor. All of them are decent quality 5 button mice.

u/MrGulio · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Not sure what country you're in but doing a google conversion for Euros to USD I'm seeing a couple of mice that are in the $45 price range. Look at the bodies of these and see if any will meet what you're looking for in terms of grip.

Logitech G302 Daedalus Prime Moba

Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury

SteelSeries Rival 100

SteelSeries Sensei

CoolerMaster Storm Mizer

u/Stokes26 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

This guy served me well for a good 3 years before I decided I wanted a G502. It still works flawlessly to this day.

u/limey13 · 2 pointsr/buildapc


Free 5 day delivery. Roughly £2 over your limit though

u/GreatMightyOrb · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

This looks like a much better value than a 3 button Razer mouse.

u/IamRitcha · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/JPacSon · 2 pointsr/pcgaming

I've been using the [Perixx MX-2000B] ( for two weeks now as my main mouse (Logitech G400 is now used at work), and it's a great mouse. The size and shape fit my hand well, and the tracking seems just as good as my G400. You get weights and a customizeable LED for $31.99, so that's a definitely plus at this price point. Overall, I've been very happy with the mouse. Can't say how these other branded versions of the mouse compare, but the Perixx one is great. Maybe consider getting this one if you can't find honest reviews of that Anker version. There seem to be a lot of reviews for this one as well; positive at that.

u/anothercodnoob · 2 pointsr/MouseReview
u/A_homeless_ninja · 2 pointsr/summonerschool

Mad Catz/Cyborg R.A.T 3
Roccat Kone
I've used both these for playing League and some other MMOs and I've found them perfect, especially the first one.
People recommend this one tooBut I've never used it so I can't say anything.

u/IveBeenJaped · 2 pointsr/hardwareswap

It is this version.

What did you want to trade for?? My mouse and card for the rival and headphones?

u/DankDarko · 2 pointsr/community

No, it is because I wanted a Mad Catz mouse that is $100 not to suck.

Oh and when the product fails, I want the company to have some semblance of customer support.

u/ikjadoon · 2 pointsr/hardware

Well, not statistics, but the Deathadder has this crazy common flaw:

Read the reviews; definitely valid reasons why it has a 3.5 star rating. IMO, it's akin to EVGA leaving off the thermal pads. It might not happen consistently, but once you see it, you see a clear manufacturing problem.

u/DJ_MD9 · 2 pointsr/purebattlefield

Headphones first:
Don't buy a headset. A "headset" is composed of a cheap pair of headphone drivers and a cheap microphone wrapped up in a chintzy, "gaming"-flavored package full of LEDs and shit, that gets sold at ridiculous markups. They're heavy and clunky, and honestly sound like crap. I find headset drivers to be almost too bass-heavy and their sound gets muddled. Listening to music on them sounds like you're listening to a recording from a nightclub, and when you play games with them, it's hard to separate one sound from another.

Instead, buy a nice pair of headphones, and a decent desktop microphone, and you'll not only spend less money, but you'll have better sound and a clearer recorded voice. I'd opt for a set of open-ear headphones, because they let you hear your voice as it normally sounds (put in a pair of noise-isolating earbuds or wear a pair of noise-isolating or noise-cancelling headphones and try speaking, you'll sound odd to yourself). For a ~30 Pound price range, I'd recommend these or these.

As for the microphone, just get a lapel microphone (like this one), or a desk microphone like this one (which is the Amazon best-seller for desktop microphones). Or you could get an around-the-ears microphone like this one, that you could then put your headphones over.

Next, for a mouse:
This depends a lot on personal preference. I'd recommend the Razer Deathadder, not only because they have one of the best sensors on the market (maintains perfect tracking even at extremely high speeds with no intrinsic negative acceleration, has adjustable DPI from 400 to 3500, etc.), but also because it is comfortable to hold and comfortable to use. The buttons are satisfying to click, the scroll wheel has just the right amount of tactile feedback, the cable is braided and flexible, etc. This mouse is 47.99 Pounds on Amazon (same link as earlier), but even with a budget three times as high, this is still the mouse I'd buy.

I find the R.A.T. mice to be gimmicks. Yes, you can twist some screws to change their length and whatnot, but the sensors are rather crappy ("DPI" means nothing to the quality of the sensor, you can get a $20 mouse with 3000 DPI; I only use 800 DPI anyways), and I'm also not a fan of how they look/feel. But, as with all mice, this comes down to individual preference.

u/Richard_MF_Nixon · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I love my Razor Deathadder, but Razer quality control has a lot of issues, now more than ever. Any of their newer products, typically branded as "Chroma" are horrendous. They're cheaply built and seriously prone to failure. Get the DeathAdder Black or DeathAdder 2013. Those are much higher quality kit, though harder to find and as such, pricier.

As for Non-Razer kit, Logitech, Steelseries, and Zowie have the best rep for mice. Here's a few recommendations based on what I've heard here and read from reviews from Tom's Hardware, PCGamer, and Amazon. If you can, go up to Best Buy and or Fry's and get your hands on the mouse you're looking at. Everyone has a different preferance in Ergonomics. I cannot stand Logitech mice for their feel, but many love them and they're quality kit, as an example.

  • Logitech G502

    ^("Logitech took the already-excellent G500s and remedied its few flaws, leaving a product that's both more streamlined and more robust. If you have very specific needs — such as tournament-level FPS play or endgame MMO content — the Proteus Core may prove passable. For anyone else, it's hard to imagine a better generalist gaming mouse. Mouse manufacturers, take note: The Proteus Core is the standard to beat.") -Tom's Guide

  • Steelseries Rival

    ^("Overall, there's very little objectively wrong with the Rival, but there's not much to set it apart from the pack, either. The Logitech Proteus Core has a better design; the Razer DeathAdder has better software; the Corsair Vengeance M65 has more genre-specific features. Still, if you've got big hands and want something comfortable, the Rival is a solid choice.") -Tom's Guide

  • Zowie FK2

    ^(" In many cases, the mice above are cheaper despite having more buttons, higher sensitivity or better customisation options. Of course, not everybody needs such features, and there is certainly beauty in the FK2's ambidextrous design and simplicity. Nevertheless, it's hard to see where the price justification comes from in the context of the rest of the market, so for this reason it just misses out on an award. That also being said, the overall quality is high, so if it meets your needs and size requirements, you'll be rewarded with a great little mouse provided the cost is not an issue.") -

  • Razer Deathadder 2013

    ^("Sometimes a product is popular because it feeds on its own momentum, and sometimes a product is popular because it's legitimately excellent. The Razer DeathAdder is definitely in the second category. Despite a few design quibbles and game-linking oddities, the mouse is an easy recommendation for PC gamers of every stripe.")- Tom's Guide
u/dmnw0w · 2 pointsr/HardwareSwapUK

It's 50p cheaper new on amazon, you may want to reconsider your price my dude

u/Tib5 · 2 pointsr/buildapc

I don't know of any good cheap keyboards, their's plenty that'll do, but none that'll compare with a good mechanical one. So for that I'd just pick the cheapest one up you can find. As for a mouse, their's a decent amount of good budget offerings. I'm partial to the UtechSmart MMO mouse. It has good software support, and I've found a verity of uses for the extra buttons in and out of games. I use it for work, gaming, and everyday use, I've used it for a long ass time, and suggest it completely.

u/Kensin · 2 pointsr/lowendgaming

this is what I'm using and it falls just under $30.00 (one sale) right now. I have no real complaints. The only issue I have with it is that the DPI LEDs are always red. That's it. Other than that it's been pretty much perfect. heres an amazon link for reviews or whatever.

u/Toufles · 2 pointsr/wow

I almost got the Redragon Perdition after my Naga finally bit the dust, but ended up getting the UtechSmart Venus. Judging by your pictures the software is exactly the same, the buttons are also angled, but the mouse is all black so you don't get the weird color combos. I can't tell if one is bigger or smaller...I have small hands too so finding a mouse that doesn't feel giant is a challenge. Anyways, just throwing it out there as I am happy with mine too - I think they are both solid Naga alternatives.

u/dakota831 · 2 pointsr/classicwow

Okay pretty simple. You need a few things though.

  1. A cheap mmo mouse like this you can bind your bread and butter to:
  2. A addon like Banana Bar that organizes hostel/enemy frames.
  3. Mouse over cast macro something like : #showtooltip Holy Light/cast [target=mouseover,exists] Holy Light; Holy Light

    Replace Holy Light with whatever spell you want.


    Once it's all set up you just press the button on the mouse to the corresponding spell while hovering the cursor over the enemy target frame. And boom, 1 handed mage.


    (PS: This is really similar to how you raid heal at high levels.)
u/Brolyx · 2 pointsr/Amd

oh they work alright! they really honestly arnt for everyone it causes anger issues trying to learn to control it properly i usually cut it down depending on the game via software or just a button on the mouse. i perfer around 12k tho honestly this mouse isnt even expensive and i prefer it over the chroma razer naga. this is the link if you are interested the mouse has removable weights as well so you can find a good balance between weight and dpi you can make your self very comfortable with very little movement. and with the software for each dpi setting (there are 5) you can create profiles for different types of games with various speeds and polling rates with one tap of a button on the mouse its honestly a very good product.

u/firechaos05 · 2 pointsr/TeraOnline

I use one of these. Pretty handy since I main healer classes, can set up to 5 DPI profiles along with lighting profiles. I've had it for maybe a year now, no issues with it so far other than the little thumb rest that gets in the way sometimes ($45.99 USD excl taxes and shipping).

If that's still too much, there's also the Redragon Perdition. Haven't personally used it but it's getting decent reviews, not sure if you can customize its DPI profiles but it's cheaper ($34.96 USD excl taxes and shipping).

u/Ventem · 2 pointsr/wow

I bought a Naga and I hated it. It felt so cheap in my hand and the buttons felt "squishy". It was also a bit on the small side for my hand. So, I gave it to a friend and he loves it, so to each his own!
I ended up biting the bullet and went with a mouse that I've never heard of before, the Venus by a newish(?) company called "UtechSmart". In my opinion, it's miles above the Naga. It feels so much better in my hand, the build quality is superb, and there's no issues after a couple years of use.

If you don't want to go with a mouse that isn't a huge name brand like Razer, then I hear Corsair's mice are incredible too. I use their keyboards and I love them, but I haven't used one of their mice yet. Hopefully this can help to some degree.

u/Ciel_Rosemont · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

Ahoy! I "converted" to KB and mouse with FFXIV - it was my first game played on kb/m rather than controller. Prior to 2013 I'd been a mostly-console player, had played hundreds of games on controllers, and had never seriously attempted to play anything on kb/m.

The other reply said the most important part: just practice. There is a lot of individual variation from person to person when it comes to how you'd learn to play this way, and (crucially) what areas you'd have trouble with, and how you solve them. To give a personal example of that: while things like moving with WASD and the mouse took some time to adjust to, I was pretty much okay with those fundamentals after a couple months. What was KILLING me was hitting keyboard keys with my left hand to use hotbar skills. Generally, if I moved my hand slightly to hit whatever skill is bound to, say, shift 4, I'd have to look down in order to reposition my hand back on WASD to move properly. If I moved my hand to hit a key, then immediately after that there was an AOE I had to dodge, by the time I got my hand back where it needed to be, I already got hit. This also meant that everything past 5 in the number row was off-limits to skills I would need to use with any regularity, and if I DID need to hit a skill bound to 8 or 9, I needed to stop and look to make sure I was actually hitting the right key and not 7 or 0 (the same way I'd need to then stop and look AGAIN to get back to WASD).

Some people like to change Q, E, R, or other letters near WASD to hotbar assignments, but I just found that discombobulating and also preferred keeping Q/E as my strafe keys (which I use a LOT). This specific problem, of trying to use my left hand for WASD movement but also for hitting numbers to activate skills, kept me from being any better than "barely okay" at the game for a few years, even though I'd felt I'd adjusted adequately to kb/m controls OTHER than that one problem.

So I needed a solution that would allow me to move my fingers away from WASD as little as possible, and that solution was an MMO mouse with 12 thumb buttons. Specifically, this one. I use all 12, so my first hotbar is 1-12, 2nd hotbar is ctrl+1-12 (with ctrl mapped to that little extra button next to the left mouse button), and the 3rd hotbar is shift + 1-12 (shift I can hit with my left pinky without moving the rest of my fingers out of WASD position).

Now a 12-button MMO mouse may or may not work for you - it depends on the person. For me, after an awkward month spent adjusting to it, it began to feel totally natural. I can't go back to playing this game any other way now. But my point in writing all that isn't to say "get an MMO mouse", it's to illustrate that the key is figuring out what works for you, and perhaps more importantly, what doesn't, i.e. what your Achilles heel is when it comes to kb/m controls, and how you can solve it.

Re: standard vs. legacy - I dislike how legacy handles camera and character movement so I keep it on standard. I've long since gotten used to keeping my camera angled in such a way that if I need to dodge laterally, I can just right-click to instantly turn my character and then hit Q or E to strafe. This is also how I get around the "slow walk" issue, which seems to be one of the main points of contention when legacy vs. standard is discussed: hitting S in standard will make you slowly walk backwards (useless for dodging out of an AOE), whereas with legacy you'll actually turn and run away. With the camera angled properly, right-click and strafe allows you to run "backwards" instantly (that is, backwards relative to the enemy, even though your character is actually strafing left or right). But this, again, is an entirely subjective choice that's down to which one works better for you. It's worth fully exploring the particulars of both methods to figure out which one you like better.

u/Teugeus · 2 pointsr/wow

I got this one about a year ago and it has served me well so far, those extra buttons make all the difference.

{Upgraded Version}UtechSmart Venus 50 to 16400 DPI High Precision Laser MMO Gaming Mouse for PC, 18 Programmable Buttons, Weight Tuning Cartridge, 12 Side Buttons, 5 programmable user profiles, Omron Micro Switches, Over 16 Million Customizing LED Color Options For Side Buttons, Logo & Head Lights [Compatible with Windows 10]

u/teelap · 2 pointsr/MouseReview


I just dumped mine after the 3rd RMA. The original Nagas (2012) were amazing but the recent iterations have been pretty poor. Here are the options I found:

Corsair Scimitar Pro This is a smaller mouse than the naga, but provides the 12 button pad and has great software to boot

Logitech G600 This one is just a little too bulky for me, I have very small hands, but it is logitech. The dual dish feature is too weird for me.

Steelseries Rival 500 Not your standard layout, but a good sensor. Large mouse , very similar to the naga epic.

In the end, I went with the Rival 500, because I liked the features (programmable rumble support) and the Pixart 3360 Optical Sensor was a good choice. It is heavy, so not ideal for fps, but i use it anyways.

Also, there is always knockoff on amazon. My brother has this one and he loves it. Eh?

u/dawn_of_thyme · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

I use a gaming mouse, with numbered keys like this:

This frees up my left hand for focusing on movement and CTRL/Shift/Alt.

u/BeaversAreTasty · 2 pointsr/gis

I use one of these for GIS and CAD. Similar idea.

u/akira_ikeda · 2 pointsr/Rainbow6

Well, I use the mouse software to map the extra buttons to the numpad, and then in game I map the keybinds to that numpad button.

It's a generic mouse, but it's got 10 extra buttons :D Not this exact one but similar

u/runetrantor · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Did not even check, the moment I saw the pricetag and the leds I ignored everything else.

Only thing I recall is that it also had 'gamer buttons' on the side, like you know how the keyboard ends on the lef with the tab and such keys? Well, in this one, just past them, hanging from the edge, was a set of buttons that were supposedly for gamers, despite the clear pain to press if you are in a normal configuration.
Kind of like that mouse that had 12 blackberry sized buttons on the side and expected you to guess which was which and not press 4 at once (This one: Try at hit one of those in the middle of an intense gaming session.

u/Nekryyd · 2 pointsr/GamerGhazi

Well, since KBM = Godmode...

Why not just enable KBM support by default on console?

For about the same price as a new controller you could hunt around and find a playable KBM set up.

Even in the article you cite, the game's director only says that it should be either/or, he does not rule out KBM. He only says that if a console is going to have KBM input, it should be plug and play and equally accessible.


> There's no major difference between a $20 mouse and a $200 mouse except some more buttons, a few LEDS and the branding.

You are drawing the absolutely wrong comparison. Some products are all about branding and style and are definitely WAY overpriced (ahem), but there is a distinct difference between playing on this, and this(anti-ghosting is more important at really high competitive levels and players can be picky about an AG layout, but it's less important than the fact that mechanical keys offer much better options for tactile feedback and are almost universally more precise). And a MASSIVE difference between this and this. That gaming mouse has SIX TIMES (including scroll wheel button) the amount of buttons as the normal mouse. This is literally the difference between going from the face buttons of an original NES controller to the number of buttons and triggers on modern controllers. Sure, you could try and cluster as many functions as close to your left hand as possible, but having them all right at your thumb is a massive difference, to say nothing of the on-the-fly DPI adjustments that many gaming mice have (EG - most commonly used to instantly switch between high and low sensitivity settings for better sniping).

I personally have a blue-switch KB that is immensely satisfying to type on and is great for gaming (particularly when doing something, like a dash, that requires a double-tap of a key). I hope to never have to go back to a membrane KB.

As far as my mouse goes, I paid something like $50 for a mouse that has 8 programmable buttons and a DPI switch for up to 4 different DPI settings (though I only use two). It was a huge advantage over my old mouse for the shooter I was playing at the time (Planetside 2, an MMOFPS).

So I'll circle back to what I originally said and will restate that I think the decision at the hardware level to exclude KBM was an ill-thought "walled garden" approach to protecting controller sales. Again, if your cited article is to be believed, Microsoft may end up opening up KBM support. It only makes sense because media entertainment devices, such as consoles, are converging with the set-top HTPC/video box market.

Hell, again, per your article, Sony even already offers a keypad/mouse combo.

u/_BoneZ_ · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

There are tons of different ones. Besides what have already been mentioned:

The top-rated UtechSmart Venus:

The Redragon Perdition:

The Havit MMO mouse:

Those are some more options besides the G600. Redragon has excellent reviews. All the mice I've listed above have excellent reviews. All you have to do is choose. :)

There's also the Logitech G602. The 602 is more comfortable for me as I can't stand the ring finger rest on MMO mice. The 602 can also use 1 or 2 AA batteries for weight purposes which lasts for months. Further, the 602 has several extra buttons up top, one of which can be used as a shift button to turn those 6 side buttons into 12.

u/NostalgiaDad · 2 pointsr/classicwow

This fits a full sized laptop with a number pad and room to use my gaming mouse. This is what I've been using for a mouse. It's even better for healers imo but also works well for hunters and melee dps. Putting different heal ranks or traps and shots on different mouse number rows really free'ed up my bars
UtechSmart Venus Gaming Mouse RGB Wired, 16400 DPI High Precision Laser Programmable MMO Computer Gaming Mice

u/Chaliandra · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Yep the Dell s2716dg, its an excellent monitor. I upgraded from 1080p @ 60hz to this one, and its WOW. Its like night and day, the system normally runs games at 130+ fps, so having a monitor that refreshes at that speed is astounding. The only thing is that the monitor is a TN panel, so you get that wierd discoloration if you look at it from an angle. But I never play games with my monitor at a 90 degree angle, so i'm good. Haha.

Most of my games (Overwatch, Skyrim, Diablo III, Dota2) run at 130+ fps, with CPU intensive games like Watch Dogs 2 and Battlefield 1 at around 110 fps at stock CPU speed (3.8ghz). I OC'd it to 4.8ghz recently and it brought my fps in Battlefield 1 to around 130-142 fps, but also raised my temps from the mid 50s to mid 70s.

The mouse is a RGB MMO gaming mouse and the keyboard is the Razer Blackwidow Ultimate edition, which I'm planning on replacing sometime this year with a keyboard with RGB lighting (the blue doesn't really work with my red computer scheme, lol)

u/tylertitties · 2 pointsr/gamingsuggestions

Not sure about games per se, but I have this mouse that could help with the 1 hand thing:

I have this mouse at home and wouldn’t trade it for anything. You can program every button to do basically whatever you’d like. You could play an FPS with it if you really wanted to by mapping the side buttons to WASD.

u/tamaralads · 2 pointsr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

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u/RefreshAzure · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

Having an mmo mouse can help take a lot off the keys i have 10 things set to the mouse and it make smoother game play as your finger will not have to dash about trying to keep up.

MMO mouse that i use

u/Omni_X · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

My bad, it is actually a UtechSmart mouse(same concept though)...

UtechSmart Venus Gaming Mouse RGB Wired, 16400 DPI High Precision Laser Programmable MMO Computer Gaming Mice [IGN's Recommendation]

u/Skylerys · 2 pointsr/wow

I have the same issue with hand and arm pain. Few weeks ago I got this mouse and it is awesome. Really great build quality and price. I snagged it for $25 on sale. My friend also has it and loves it.

u/PardonMyLagg · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I would recomend my daily driver the UtechSmart Venus MMO Mouse witch is $37 USD its really good quality and has a lot of the same features of the naga, g600 and scimitar.

if you dont get the above one id probably go for the scimitar.

u/dieterschaumer · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

It looks remarkably similar in overall design to my cheap MMO mouse in aesthetic design, yet is from a different chinese company. Knockoffs of knockoffs?

I can't speak for a mouse I don't own, but incidentally I'm very happy with the oddly named Venus. I got it for ~$30 and the grippy material they cover the mouse with feels cheap, but otherwise everything is very functional. Comes with replacement teflon pads too. Don't know how long it will last, but the reviews are very good.

u/Pyromaniac34 · 2 pointsr/gaming

So, my suggestion to you, get 2 Stinky Boards that you control with your feet. That's 8 buttons which should mostly make up for the loss of major left hand use.

Then get a mouse with lots of buttons like the Logitech G502, Utech Venus, or the Razer Naga line.

It will definitely take some getting used to, but you probably wouldn't need to give up any of the games you love.

The last recommendation I have to further expand your ability to control games with minimal left hand usage is Voice Attack Which lets you program in (assuming someone hasn't built a profile already) sequences of key presses and other things that respond to your voice. When properly set up, it works amazingly for games like Elite: Dangerous when I'm in VR and can't really see the keyboard to use those controls.

Best of luck to you, and hopefully you regain full functionality soon.

u/PYROmilmo · 2 pointsr/Rainbow6
u/NOLAEducator · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

I bought this a couple of weeks ago on the recommendation of someone in game. I love it so far. He said he’s had his for over a year with no problems.

u/zushiba · 2 pointsr/IAmA

Wow that was way more information that I had anticipated. It's clear that you've given it a lot of thought.

Honestly as a somewhat fully enabled person myself, I had problems with The Witcher 3 on launch too. I just couldn't wrap my head around some of the default key binds and was happy that I could change them.

I know that WoW somewhat recently added a lot of color blind options for I think the 3 most common types of color blindness. I have no idea how successful they are.

Have you looked into any of the crazy MMO specific mice? There's a few that I'd think would be almost perfect for a usecase such as yours. The Roccat NYTH is fully modular, letting you place the physical buttons in different configurations, remove buttons or add different sized buttons. Then there's those mice with a hundred buttons on the side like the UtechSmart Venus or the Razer Naga. One of those might help you eliminate your keyboard turning. Though, we've had people in our raids that for one reason or another needed to use the keyboard rather than their mice and they seemed to do just fine. I think the whole "Keyboard turning" vs "Mouse Turning" is a similar argument to keyboard & Mouse vs Console Controller.

The reason I ask is not only do I have friends who've been in somewhat similar situations, thought not quite as extreme and because in my line of work I have to implement measures to support people with different abilities.

I'm a programmer at a college who's currently interim webmaster until we find a new one and I have to implement 508 Compliance.

u/Agentcaden12 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Redragon M801 Mammoth 16400 DPI Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse for PC, 9 Programmable Buttons, 5 User Profiles, Weight Tuning, Omron Switches, Black

I love this mous soooooo much. I love the notches too that is the main reason i got it. It comes in a few different colors.

u/DeadlyRecluse · 2 pointsr/elderscrollsonline

It's not the cheapest, but I've been using this: 30 dollar red dragon and I'm super happy with it. The 3 side buttons work well for light attack animation cancelling, the secondary index button is easily accessible, leaving me just my ult and 1 skill (usually a buff) on my keyboard.

u/hentaipanda · 2 pointsr/buildmeapc

I personally have a Redragon Mammoth - $26 and I absolutely love it. I ended up getting another one for work as well.
If you need more buttons to program, you could get the Redragon Perdition - $37. I don't personally own it, but my friends that do also highly recommend it.

u/Nick_Kerttula · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I have a "redragon" (whatever tf that even means) rgb mouse that I got for 27 USD. I have enormous hands and it fits perfectly. It's a 16000 dpi that goes up or down with the press of a button. Would recommend.

u/Gustaf_the_cat · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/Battler14 · 2 pointsr/gis

Well, The mouse was for my home office. I personally like ones that have forward/back buttons on the side and adjustable sensitivity, but that is my preference.

I ended up with this, but I also use it to game occasionally. this mouse is similar to what I have at work.

u/phoenixfudge · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

I got the Red Dragon Mammoth for $40. Apparently, its on sale right now. Anyways, it's not super fancy but its damn good for the price you pay. You can find more about the Revenant profession with the link.

u/The_Shadowfox · 2 pointsr/natureismetal

Yeah, my Naga's cable crapped out a couple months after I bought it. Since then, I bought a Redragon Mouse that's very similar and it's been going well for about a year and a half now.

u/throwthatoneawaydawg · 2 pointsr/wow

Not answering your question but here is a great alternative mouse. I've had it since early 2015 with no problems at all. Red Dragon

u/mysticmanESO · 2 pointsr/elderscrollsonline

If you're on a budget like me take a look at this, I just brought it (will be delivered today), no more taking my eye off the action to look down at the keyboard, no more having to stop moving to hit a ability key on the keyboard. [MMO mouse] (

u/MistyToast · 2 pointsr/leagueoflegends

Here is my exact Keyboard and here is my Mouse Although I don't use any of the thumb buttons for league.

u/Lux-uk · 2 pointsr/MMORPG

Depending on how much you want to spend there is a lot of budget alternatives for a 12 button mouse. Just go on Amazon and search '12 button mouse'

An example.

I have been using this mouse for years since my Razer Naga broke as well.

u/Grhule · 2 pointsr/classicwow
u/GamerGrunt · 2 pointsr/Eve

Redragon Perdition. Naga knockoff that is better than Razer's over priced crap.

u/SkeletonInProgresss · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I love Razer. I love how much they are doing for the gaming scene and eSports scene.

That being said, I have gone through two Blackwidow keyboards and three Naga mice. I wouldn't say that I'm hard on my accessories, but they do see a fair amount of use. My mice lasted around a year to a year and a half on average. When they worked, they were excellent, but too quickly did I start to have problems with the laser.

Since then I bought this random Reddragon mouse that was half the price on amazon and I have put it through about three years of work and it's still holding up great.

Razer looks great, works great for a while, but I compare it now to the beats by Dre, strong marketing and appearance, but low quality for the price.

u/Trendd · 2 pointsr/WildStar

As someone who owns a g600 (bought it FOR W*) I cannot reccomend it enough and it is worth the money. Having said that there are cheaper mmo mice. I nearly bought this one before the g600 went on sale last month

u/Sahaul · 2 pointsr/wow

I've used the exact same setup for years now and love it. Left CTRL is push to talk, so shift/alt are my modifiers of choice.

I had one of the original Razer Naga Epics, and I loved it but it had its share of issues. I repaired the switches numerous times until I finally cooked the little PCB inside it while attempting to re-solder in a new switch. I tried out both the new Razer Naga Chroma and the Logitech G600, but the side buttons were ridiculously easy to press by accident (at least compared to my original Naga). I ended up buying a Redragon M901 and absolutely adore the thing. It's cheap as hell and the build quality seems better than the Razer one. It's lasted me three years so far. I use the extra button on the top for the "extra action button" that periodically pops up in game for quests/events/raids.

u/plankingdom · 2 pointsr/buildapcforme

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $219.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $24.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $49.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $52.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Crucial BX200 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $114.99 @ Amazon
Case | Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $49.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply | EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.98 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $83.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 60Hz Monitor | $120.98 @ Newegg
Keyboard | Redragon S102 Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse | $39.99 @ Amazon
Other| RX 480 8GB| $200.00
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1037.68
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $997.68
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-26 03:07 EDT-0400 |

Recommended system requirements for Legion are substantially lower than what your going to be buying, I'm talking 3-4 year old parts. As far as WoW is concerned you'll be able to play it until 2020 with little to no issues.

If your going to be waiting a month or so for the release of the 480 you should check out buildapcsales to buy parts that may be an upgrade to a part that you've already settled on at that price point.

I would also suggest getting something like the Reddragon 901 the extra thumb buttons when used properly can make a huge difference in reaction time.

u/iCeCoCaCoLa64 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Dude, my friend plays the shit out of Paragon and he'd love this. Entering.

u/FS_JayMartinUSA · 2 pointsr/joinsquad

How do you play with only two thumb buttons? ;)

I play with a Perdition Redragon . 12 thumb buttons, only six are really accessable. All my comms are on the mouse. Local, Squad, Command, Discord.

Anyone who's ever played with me knows... I always mix up my comms.

To command: "Sorry squad, it looks like we'll have to take this point by ourselves. Squad 1 is busy standing beside their mortars. " Also to command: "Sorry, wrong comms."

(SL1 usually doesn't say anything for the rest of the game)

u/Vizen · 2 pointsr/starcitizen

I have a HOJAM setup with a t16000 and an mmo mouse (18 keys total on the mouse.)

Right now, I have strafe left set to the left key on the top of the joystick, strafe right to the right key, strafe up set to the biggest key on the joystick, and strafe down set to the trigger.

Things like 'cycle friendly' and 'target nearest hostile' are set to the hat on the joystick.

Pitch, yaw, and roll are set to joystick (the mouse does no flying.)

Speed up, slow down, decoupled strafe forward, and decoupled strafe backward are set to the two keys behind the scroll wheel (originally dpi keys.)

Scroll wheel forward one click enters decoupled mode, another click forward exits decoupled mode.

Scroll wheel backward is velocity 0/100

afterburner is set to what I call the 'Don't Panic' button, a red button to the left of my left click.

3 button on mouse is fire 3

6 button is fire 4

9 button is cycle countermeasure

12 button is release countermeasure

8 and 11 cycle through the hud focus (shield screen, power distribution screen, etc)

4,7, and 10 are power to weapons, power to shield, and power to thrusters

5 is equalize power

2 is hud interaction mode toggle

1 is space brake

The numpad on the keyboard is still used for shields, but since I mainly use a 300i, I might do away with equalize power (5) and hud interaction mode (2) keybinds and make those shield distribution keys. I do like the idea of having one mouse profile for all ships though.

Missile lock/launch is mouse wheel button

I use mouse to aim gimbaled weapons.

This is probably not the most efficient setup, but it works for me and it might help you get a setup that you are comfortable with. A side effect of this setup is that I can't grab a mouse without putting three fingers on top of it now; one finger for left click, one finger for mouse wheel and the thruster keys, and one finger for right click.

my mouse for reference.

u/Masaimune · 2 pointsr/mylittlepony
u/unforgiven60 · 2 pointsr/wow

If you mean how hard is the physical pressing action, it does not take much pressure. The buttons are small. I'd say it's about the same amount of pressure to push one as it does a normal key on a keyboard.

If you mean how easy is it to reach all of them? All 12 buttons are concentrated in a rectangle that measures probably 1"x2". For me, reaching buttons 1-9 is pretty easy without even having to shift my thumb at all. Buttons 10-12 took some getting used to but now it's second nature.

The biggest hurdle is just adjusting your muscle memory to using the mouse buttons for the majority of your actions. It took several play sessions to get used to it. To be honest, I felt like I was pretty worthless at first because I'd get lost in the heat of battle trying to remember what key I needed to hit. Lost several GCD's every now and then and also casted the wrong spell plenty of times. After a few sessions, it all pretty much clicked though and now it's second nature.

Don't switch to this style and expect an immediate improvement. You will get worse before you get better. Just like if you totally change up your keybinds, your body has to adjust.

Here is the mouse I bought. It's pretty cheap, so hopefully if you think it will help you, the investment is minimal. They make higher dollar ones that are probably better, so you can check those out too if you don't like this one.

They call them MMO gaming mice. If you want to search for that on amazon

u/DMC831 · 2 pointsr/EliteDangerous

Nice, only 30 bucks on Amazon! Just to confirm, it's this model right--

I should get it just to have a nice gaming mouse at the very least, I've never had one. And I got Amazon gift cards burning a hole in my e-wallet for forever.

I could get it, and then when I eventually get that yearning to make the change (I'll need to be in the mood) I'll be all ready to go.

u/Revuleh · 2 pointsr/TibiaMMO

I suggest Reddragon predition...I have got this mouse for over a year and no problem whatsoever. It comes with special program where you can assign 12 side buttons to any key you want. Also its half price of Razer.

u/Waltz_Beat · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

I use a Redragon Perdition M901. Its relatively cheap, has 12 side buttons for the hotbar and has a trigger button in the place I like to assign my push-to-talk.

u/Reiker0 · 2 pointsr/classicwow

I have this one which is apparently programmable. I'll have to mess with it some time to see if I can just macro some weird key combination to fake having extra buttons.

u/T01110100 · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

Keep in mind that most of these will have a generic stiff shit cable nor can I promise the shape will be for you.


If you also plan on playing FPS with it:


For 20 USD(!) back at 30 USD, the Havit HV-MS735 is a pretty good budget option. Has a 3360 sensor, 12 grid, side scroll, and is ~107 grams with the internal weight removed, which isn't too bad for a 12 grid mouse, not to mention it being at the current price that it is.


At 30 USD, the updated Redragon M901 is the lightest 12 grid mouse available with a 3360. Has an additional button on the left side, and doesn't require any opening up to remove the weights. Weighs in at only 87 grams without weights.


At 60 USD (50 refurbished), the Corsair Scimitar is a 12 grid mouse with a 336X variant. Has the gimmick with adjusting the 12 grid, which is actually not too bad because if a 12 grid doesn't sit exactly right, you either lose full functionality or comfort. Unfortunately weighs a buttload at ~120 grams, which is normally a deal breaker for some.


Of course the Naga Trinity, which has the side panel gimmick. If the cable is like any recent Razer mouse, it'll have the best cable of the bunch by far. Also ~120 grams, so another monster in the weight class.


If you don't care about having a good sensor:


Logitech G600 at ~34 USD is an okay mouse. Logitech software is a lot better than Synapse and the crap the Chinese OEMs have. Has a pretty garbage sensor in it though, so FPS is going to be a no go.


Honestly though, the HV-MS735 and M901 are good. Unless you insist on using a mainstream mouse or dislike Chinese OEM software, the Redragon M901 is amazing due its weight class and the HV-MS734 is a budget god at 20 USD is still really good at 30 USD if you want side scroll.

u/Sturdge666 · 2 pointsr/runescape

Redragon Perdition.

Not as high quality as a Corsair Scimitar or a Razer Naga but it's cheaper.

When this one dies I'll likely grab a Corsair Scimitar, since I'm wanting to upgrade my keyboard to a Corsair Strafe anyway.

u/wrenagade419 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

no not refurbished, it's brand new for that much.

here is amazon link

for 35 bucks, i figured it's be cheap and break pretty quick or have issues. nope. there's other redragon mouse designs too, gotta assume they are just as good. I want to say they are in line with razer nagas but that may be a bold statement, my brother has a razer, i honestly think the redragon feels a bit.. sturdier, but that's just feel, says nothing about real quality, which, i think they are pretty much even. The software that comes with it is great, set your dpi settings, theres i think 4-5 settings, and tqo buttons behind mouse wheel to switch between them (up and down) and you can customize each one, so like 800 for one, 1200 for another, whatever you want up to 16400 dpi. mousewheel changes color to indicate what setting you're on. The logo and the numbers light up which you can customize that color and if it pulses and how fast. I constantly recommend this mouse to people looking for a cheap, quality alternative. and i think it has 5 star rating on amazon with 2512 reviews. Keep your options open but i can't say enough good things about the price and quality of this mouse. I play overwatch, ffxiv. Love this thing. 34 for black, 37 for the white one, which i wanted but my case is black and i kept that theme.

u/Theawesomeiman · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/LordSocky · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

Redragon Perdition. I took a gamble on a cheap Chinese mouse when my Razer Naga died after six months, and it paid off. This mouse has served me well for almost two and a half years of heavy use.

I use the thumb buttons to switch between combos for each class, because why waste space for buttons I only need sometimes? I got tired of reaching for the buttons and decided to bring the buttons to me. I started with this system when Samurai came out because the rotation was absolutely incompatible with my old layout, and just adapted it to every class I played afterwards.

I forgot to mention, the source bars on top are normally hidden and are just shown to demonstrate how the macro system works. It doesn't actually physically switch the hotbar, it just copies the skills to hotbar 1.

u/Ayeohx · 2 pointsr/Diablo

My roommates like this mouse. 18 programmable buttons on the mouse.

u/Godflow_ · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

I'm using the Red Dragon Perdition. It's not super well known, but it's really one of the best mouse i've used at an amazing price.

u/Andele4028 · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

You dont really need one, but if you dont go for the Naga Hex (tho careful they break naturally quite fast), id recommend a Redragon Perdition over the normal Naga or the G600 because of its shape, macro options and matte surface.

u/Zaxus125 · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

Mouse buttons are my savior. In PvP, I find it incredibly useful to be able to still move with my left hand, while attacking with my right hand (and camera movement).

That said, I used to use a Razer Naga, but the right mouse button recently died on me. I just picked up a Redragon Perdition ($37 on Amazon) and I am pleasantly surprised at its quality for that price.

u/eggsbenefic · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

The mmo mouse will definitely help, I have this one and it works amazingly well!

u/TheActualBoneroni · 2 pointsr/Guildwars2

OP, I see a lot of comments telling you to get an mmo mouse. I'd like to take a moment to recommend this cheap device that I've been using heavily for about 3 years now and still works fantastically. It comes with software that allows all 12 side button and even an alt click to be programmed to any key/action/macro (I have my alt click programmed to double click for all those pesky loot bags). The color of the lighting is fully customizable as well as the DPI of the mouse movements, and all of these can be set to 5 independent profiles that can be switched at the push of a button. There are also weights that can be added/removed to change the mass of the mouse to your preference. The only hangup I have is that the software can be finicky at times but once you've found a setup or two that you like there's no reason to use it anymore because the information is stored on the mouse. Can't recommend it enough.

u/obsidian713 · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Here is the mouse I've been using. Redragon Perdition 16400 DPI High Precision Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse for PC, MMO, 18 Programmable Buttons. It's as good as a $100 mouse but this one is $35:

Edit: here is my gaming mousepad:

u/ronoverdrive · 2 pointsr/ffxiv

This is what I have been using for 2.5 years now. Went to this from a Razor Naga that was like twice as expensive that lasted maybe 1 - 1.5 years tops before breaking. Live an learn I guess.

u/PM_ME_FAT_FURRYGIRLS · 2 pointsr/wownoob

I'm going to be the odd one out with the Naga Trinity, then. Razer's quality control has, in my experience, been extremely poor. I have owned three Razer Naga mice in my life, and each one has died after about a year of use, generally due to either the left mouse button or middle click becoming faulty.

The Trinity in particular lasted the least amount of time. I bought it at the beginning of BfA, and two months ago, it began to double and triple click on left mouse button, making using it virtually impossible. I'm not a hardcore raider and I'm not someone who rages and breaks my belongings; all three have died under casual WoW playing use, no especially hard play or anything like that.

Instead of buying a fourth Naga, I instead purchased a Redragon M901. It's a Chinese "knock-off", but honestly, I'm blown away by how well it works. The buttons are firmer than the Naga, and everything feels so much more sturdy. I'm not at all worried about breaking this thing, and it even comes with a bunch of QoL things that the Naga doesn't, like weights, a carrying case, and an extra set of skates for the bottom when they get worn out.

Plus, it's close to a quarter of the price. $30, compared to $100.

Personally, I'm never touching a Razer product again in my life. Obviously most other people have better experiences, and that's fine, but for me they've been just garbage.

u/Used_Taco · 2 pointsr/PUBATTLEGROUNDS

I like my Red Dragon.

u/CBandicootRS · 2 pointsr/Gaming4Gamers
u/apexjnr · 2 pointsr/summonerschool

Hype i saw this - it's cheaper then what it is on the amazon prime app, i'll back to this. Ty for the logitech suggestion =D

u/mnoel2 · 2 pointsr/buildapc

This is 5 Euros over budget, however I hear good things about it and it seems like it has a good amount of reviews on the Italian Amazon website.

u/CainIsNotShit · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/BadgerMolester · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Right so take yours and add: - $120 - $ 40

Logitech G402 Gaming Mouse Hyperion Fury with 8 Programmable Buttons - Black - $40

Total of 690 ish dollars. If you want it much cheaper get a 5 ms response monitor or a non mechanical keyboard or a worse mouse.

Sorry for formatting, on mobile.

Edit: Woops I forgot the headset. Give me a minute

Edit 2: changed the keyboard and added this shitty headset: SADES SA917 Gamin headset - $20
i'd get a better headset personally but it is up to you, for like another $20 you can get a pretty good headset

u/Foxybingo15 · 2 pointsr/HardwareSwapUK

Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury Gaming Mouse with 8 Programmable Buttons

u/AVWoW · 2 pointsr/classicwow
u/Capital_Offense · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Yeah I would get a Logitech G402 and a cheap AmazonBasic keyboard. If you can stretch the budget you could get a £30 mechanical keyboard as well.

u/platdujour · 2 pointsr/buildapcsalesuk

It's still available at £19.99 directly from Amazon if you click the new buying options link

The original product link may have changed because this price is now showing as being "Back-ordered. Due in stock April 2 -- order now to reserve yours"

u/kansasjeremy · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

i guess it's a good deal if you like world of tanks, but the regular chroma (rgb) version is only $10 more. bought an open box deathadder chroma months ago and love it.

u/Pelistorm · 2 pointsr/graphic_design

So far most of the suggestions I've read have been good. I just want to add my personal favorite, the Razer DeathAdder. Gaming Mice tend to be really great for design work due to their great precision and more control over the DPI (But don't fall into the trap that higher DPI is better.)

u/aazar- · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Here are my recommendations:




DeathAdder Chroma

They're all great mice with the best sensors out there, so you should make your choice based on shape and price. Especially the G303, great mouse but the shape takes getting used to. Best of luck

u/doomddo · 2 pointsr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon


Ok something contest winning worthy

I stepped on a wana (Sea urchin) Proof

bonus points

Not sure on what you mean by "dark films" but THIS is one of the most brutal movies I have ever seen. you can get it HERE.

And I am also a gamer. and I just got some new stuff for PC gaming.

Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound USB Gaming Headset

Razer DeathAdder Chroma

Razer BlackWidow Chroma Mechanical Gaming Keyboard

I dont know what your budget is but the Keyboard Is so good! Its back lit and you can change the color of each key if you wanted too. HERE is a better look at it. and I know the headset you can use with a PS4 but I don't know about 3.The mouse is nice too! but if she is more of a console gamer that plays PC games I would look in to Razer Sabertooth (I know Im a razer fan boy) but there stuff works great! Im going to be looking it to getting me a Sabertooth soon too.

OR you can combined 2 things Like Russian shit + candy = THIS

Hope this helps! and thanks for the contest

u/C124ZY · 2 pointsr/gaming

I bought this one and it works awesome for me. I play mostly FPS. Download the software from their site and you get tons and tons of customization options, color, sensitive, etc...

u/AeiOwnYou · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

Razor Deathadder Chroma is a pretty good gaming mouse. You can turn the LED off pretty easily so its not "xxgamerxx" I'm a pretty hardcore gamer. I use the deathadder. Haven't had any problems with it. Very accurate.

Marathon Mouse is super comfortable in my hand, i used it for a good 4-5 years before i replaced it. Very normal looking, very comfy. Recommend it to anyone that is a moderate-to-allday computer user.

u/spicycurry1 · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

It was on sale for $54.99 US. Still is on amazon. Its all really up to you im upgrading from a 3.5g so i find it worth since ive used this one for well over 3 years.

EDIT: Not in stock until December 3 might wanna try newegg

u/LunarisDream · 2 pointsr/hardwareswap

MSRP is $70 but it's currently $60 on Newegg and Amazon..

u/lucksh0t · 2 pointsr/buildapc

ive got pretty big hands im about 6'4
this is the mouse i use it fits my hand well they have a newer mouse the death adder elite

u/hab1b · 2 pointsr/OverwatchUniversity

I will say you can get a nicer set up as far as headset goes is you ignore the "gaming" headsets.

CAD MH210W $50.00

Blue Snowball Mic $50

I have musicians buds who use these in home studios. More than enough for gaming.

IF that is still too much look at the Plantronics 202180 , ~$40

My personal favorite mousepad is the QCK+. $15

Rosewill RGB80 Keyboard is a solid mechanical keyboard for about $50 marked donw from $150 for whatever that is worth.

And I always recommend the Deathadder Chroma for about $60

EDIT: What are you running for gaming rig?

u/SpamShadow · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Not in the US they aren't. If you compare Razer mice and mats to other mice of the same type, they come out cheaper. I think the brand just turns people off, and that's fine. Read reviews, some of their products are great. The Deathadder goes toe to toe with the G502 in a lot of reviews, and its cheaper. Some of their products aren't great, I've never heard a good thing about their headsets.

-Deathadder $50
-G502 $60

-Razer Mamba $110 on sale
-G900 $115 on sale

-Razer Firefly $45
-Corsair Polaris $60

u/ArbyCreeper · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

What grip do you mainly use? I recommend the Steelseries Rival 300 for palm grip. Also the Razer Death Adder Chroma seems to be at $50 on amazon

u/IlIlIlIiIlIlIlI · 2 pointsr/battlefield_4

There are many great mice on the market in your price range, but there's a lot of information (and marketing) to sift through. I hope this post helps.

The most important part of a mouse is its sensor, which is responsible for maintaining 1:1 tracking at all speeds. As of today (2015-01-17) the best sensors are the 3366, 3310, and S3989; this limits your choices significantly but ensures that you will be getting the best mouse possible. Below are some mice and information (and my own, biased thoughts) about them. Ultimately, you will have to decide on a mouse based on your own set of priorities and needs / wants.

First, the Razer DeathAdder Chroma. This is a 5-button right-handed ergonomic mouse with a good sensor, acceptable weight, and RGB lighting. However, the top edges are oddly shaped, there are rubber side grips, you have to use the Razer Synapse software, the clicks are extremely light (causing some people to accidentally misclick), it has a braided cable (frays), and Razer is known for its extremely poor quality control. A good mouse, certainly, but there are major flaws which prevent me from recommending this mouse.

Logitech mice are known for their excellent build quality and high-quality sensors, but they are oddly-shaped. The Logitech mice to consider are the G303 and G502 (there's an updated G502 with RGB lighting, too). Both of these mice use the 3366 sensor, which is slightly better than the 3310. Based on shape alone, however, I can't recommend these mice. The G303 is very small, and the G502 is heavy and awkwardly-shaped and such that I would accidentally click the two front side buttons. They also come with a braided cable (frays) and require software for configuration.

Next is the SteelSeries Rival 300. RGB lighting, 5 buttons, light weight, etc., but has a rubber side grip and uses software. The new revision supposedly fixed the wear issues with the rubber side, so there's nothing really wrong with this mouse, but I think there are better options.

The FinalMouse 2016 is simply a 3310 sensor in a cheap OEM shell - I'd look elsewhere. They're coming out with the "Tournament Pro" and "Scream One" editions, but I wouldn't have high hopes for these.

The Ducky Secret is an interesting one, but largely untested and unreviewed. Ducky is known for their high-quality mechanical keyboards (I'm typing this on a Ducky Shine 3), but this is their first mouse. Good sensor, RGB lighting, separate left and right buttons, a shell made of PBT (higher-quality plastic), Omron switches in all buttons, even the thumb buttons (but not rated for as many clicks as other mice). Could be great, but it's a bit of a gamble, especially considering how many well-known and well-tested other mice already exist.

Finally, I'll cover the Zowie mice. All of these mice are driverless (no software needed; all adjustments are made with a button on the bottom of the mouse), which is certainly a plus when it comes to ease of use, but they lack the flashy features of many "flagship" mice, like custom RGB lighting. All Zowie Mice use the same sensor (3310) and have 5 buttons (left, right, middle up/down/click, and two thumb buttons). Each type comes in two or three different sizes, as indicated my the number after the model name. The ambidextrous mice (ZA for palm grip and FK for claw grip) have two buttons on each side, but only one set can be used at a time. The EC mice are right-handed ergonomic mice. None of them have rubber side grips or braided cables, and all of them are very light. However, they are known for using Huano switches rather than Omrons (so the left and right buttons are a little harder to click) but there is a new revision with Omron switches. Speaking of revisions, this seems to be the Zowie business model: small revisions every 6 months or so. Questionable, but they do offer excellent mice.

Those are all of the major players in the gaming mouse market, but there are others (Mionix, Roccat, CoolerMaster, Corsair) that you may want to look into. There's a lot more depth than I've covered here (grip type, sensor implementations, lift-off distance, etc.) but this should give you an overview of the most popular choices. Keep in mind that this is not in any way an objective set of reviews; these are all my opinions and may not apply to your tastes. Additionally, I've been pretty harsh and picky, but these really are all great mice.

After all of my research, I chose and now use a Zowie EC1-A (late 2015 version, before the BenQ re-brand and Omron update), and couldn't be happier.

u/heyimpro · 2 pointsr/battlestations
u/KyleAJ13 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I'd recommend this keyboard and this mouse if you can push your budget, if not then this mouse instead.

u/nevernudeftw · 2 pointsr/pcgaming

Zowie EC1A. One of the best mice on the market currently.

u/kaokao1215 · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

The G500 is slightly larger than the EC1-A. That being said, where you actually put your fingers will be a similar place even though the G500 is much wider; the G500 has a thumb groove and wing that makes the mouse much wider.

EC1-A Dimensions:
> Height: 43mm

> Width: 64mm

> Depth: 128mm

> Weight: 97g

g500 dimensions:

> Height:44.0 mm
> Width:75.9 mm
> Depth:129.2 mm
> Weight:164.0 g

as of right now ~4pm PST jul 30, you can buy one off amazon and have it shipped in 1 day if you're in the states.

u/Acry · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

This mouse is fine for it's price, esp if you got it for the $25.

I recently tried several mouses from competitors to see if any matched the Deathadder feel and shape, and I came to like the which i'm using right now.

This was good for MMOs and replaced my deathadders:

I bought this also to replace my G600 for a deathadder feel that was raved about online but it was too small for me. It's got amazing reviews online for any gaming though.

u/ArmorMog · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Isn't the point of minimalism to have few design options?

I kid, but those minimalist options are out there but they aren't heavily marketed.

Lian Li

Logitech (Turn the RGB off)

Zowie (CSGO pros love this mouse)

You just have to look around. I normally find out what pros use, they generally get the most basic gear possible to avoid any complications or distractions.

Link to what the Pros use

u/olbaze · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

If you want a simple set of starter peripherals, I'd go for Logitech G402 for a mouse, SteelSeries 6Gv2 for a keyboard and HyperX Cloud II for a headset.

The best option for a mouse would be for you to make a list of features that you require (how many buttons? Ambidextrous/ergonomic design? Wired/Wireless? Lighting preference?) and come back here for a list of mice that satisfy all or most of your requirements. Then you would go to a shop to test how each of those mice feel in your hand and choose the one that is the most comfortable. Buying a mouse on a recommendation is likely to end with you getting a mouse that is not comfortable.

For a keyboard, as a beginner, a standard layout mechanical keyboard would probably be the best bet. However, mechanical keyboards come in various switches, so it would be best for you to spend a few bucks to buy a keyswitch tester online and find which you like best. From there, you could come here or /r/MechanicalKeyboards for suggestions.

For your headset, HyperX Cloud II is an excellent choice and will be pretty much impossible to beat for the price. And any better headset will cost you twice what the HyperX Cloud II does, making it an even better option. In fact, I got the HyperX Cloud II as a Christmas present for my little sister. Meanwhile, if you had other uses for headphones, buying a more expensive pair of headphones with something like the Antlion ModMic would be a good choice.

>The g502 looks like a transformer

How about Zowie EC1-A then? I have owned an older version of that mouse for close to 3 years and it still works flawlessly. It is also an extremely simple mouse, with no drivers or firmware of any kind to trip you up.

u/lingben · 2 pointsr/bapcsalescanada
u/JTB248 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

mechanical keyboards are definetely nicer to play on(clicky and easy to tell when you press a key), but are more expensive, a gaming mouse will make a difference if the sensor is better than your current one.

For 60$ I would say

  • Logitech G303 Mouse

  • Large Steelseries mousepad

    The large mousepad helps a lot and is really nice to use, so you can play on a lower sensitivity which will help you aim in games.

    if you do get the money later on, you could get a mechanical keyboard like this one which had brown switches (more quiet but still "clicky").
u/FZTR · 2 pointsr/pens

Apparently you can still find them used for ~$100, but they cost $325 to $400 new. That or amazon is acting wierd.

u/D2ultima · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I've seen G502s for $50 before, so I can say it does go on sale. Maybe less often than the others, but the G303 has the same sensor as the G502 and is often around that price range you mentioned, and has the same functionality (two side buttons etc).

Do note that the G502 has a lot of extra functions, like the free scroll wheel etc. Those are excessively useful in non-gaming scenarios. That being said, here it is for $60 USD at Best Buy:

u/JJReklaw · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I would find a good mouse you like, so you aren't using a touch pad. I highly recommend the new logitech mice that have their new sensor. I personally have never used a mouse with a better sensor. Any of these three mice are good. I recommend the logitech g pro if you don't know what preference in style you have for your mouse. It's pretty close to what you would be use to in standard mice.

Make sure you download steam for all your gaming needs. There are alternatives, but since you are newer to PC I highly recommend using steam as your main platform. Also they are having an awesome winter sale right now! Perfect time to pick up games at super cheap.

I highly recommend turning off "enhanced pointer precision" which is normally turned on by default on windows machines.

I would also ensure that your computer is using the "balanced" power save option.

I recommend getting good, preferably free, anti-virus. Everyone has their own preferences. I use Avast. Just avoid McAfee.

Picking up a new browser, so you don't use internet explorer, is a good idea. I recommend google chrome because it has enough built in features where you don't need to be "in the know" to get what you need out of it.

If you do pick up google chrome, you should pick up an add blocker for it as well. Blocks advertisements everywhere and stops you from having to watch advertisements at the beginning of youtube videos.

And to wrap it up I'd download the launcher from blizzard. Blizzard has lots of very good games, like overwatch, hearthstone, wow, etc.

I personally use a program called f.lux which makes your monitor more friendly for your eyes at night. It makes it easier to fall asleep after being on your PC late at night. I highly recommend using this if you game at night.

Now just find some games you want to play. Here are some of the most popular games on PC(based on players playing the game at the moment). That I would recommend. Everyone has their own preferences, and sorry if I'm explaining this like you know nothing. I'm not sure what information you are looking for exactly or your knowledge level.

Battle Net Games

Overwatch(Multiplayer PVP focus - fantastic FPS highly recommend)

Hearthstone(free to play card game - if you like trading card games play this!)

Steam Games

Skyrim(Single Player)

Witcher(Single Player)

Total War: WARHAMMER(Strategy Game)

Civilization 6(Strategy Game)

Terraria(2d Minecraft)

Paladins(PVP Free to play game)

Path Of Exile(Free to play Diablo2 like game)

Rust(Multiplayer Survival game)

Ark(Multiplayer dinosaur survival game)

Stardew Valley(Top down run your own farm RPG game, think Harvest Moon)

Dark Souls 1,2,3(Hardcore mostly singleplayer action RPG)

War Thunder(Free to play WW2 plane/tank PVP game, multiplayer)

Binding of Isaac: Rebirth(roguelike, top down like old zelda games - highly recommend this game)

Cities: Skylines(better version of Sim city)

Rainbow Six Siege( tactical FPS pvp, multiplayer)

Stand Alone Games That Don't Use A Launcher


League Of Legends

League Of Legends is one of the most played games in the world, competing against overwatch. It is called a MOBA, you've probably heard of it, and it's at least worth checking out if you have a friend to play with.

edit: Also finding a headset is very important, I always point to HyperX headsets if you need a microphone to talk to people. They are comfortable, sound good, and won't break the bank. If you don't need a mic just pick up a nice pair of sennheiser headphones. Also sorry for any grammar issues and just the wall of text. I just started typing and kept going. If you have any questions feel free to ask, hope you like your pc!

u/aSimAteMyBaby · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

logitech g303 daedalus apex. Small, with programmable buttons. and it's on sale everywhere right now.

u/Hamtastic1121 · 2 pointsr/patientgamers

This one!

I really dig it, it clicks really nicely and fits my stupidly small hand.

u/timmojo · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

Did you ever look at the Logitech G303 Daedalus? It's one of the smallest, lightest fingertip mice I found with an exceptional optical sensor (PMW3366), which makes it really great for gaming.

u/Dr_Pointblank · 2 pointsr/GlobalOffensive

Rival 100 is like the Rival 300 but without some rubber and smaller side buttons. I really liked the Rival 300 and I think the Rival 100 will suit you well.

u/TheTsaku · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

I am currently with the Rival 100 mouse and I have fairly big hands (I am 6'2"). I use some kind of finger/claw grip and it's perfect for me. Here's the link:

u/Merendino · 2 pointsr/AfterEffects

At work currently i'm using a steelseries rival. it was like 35? bucks. At home i use a logitech g700s.

Steelseries Rival 100

Logitech g700s

Honestly the logitech is leaps and bounds above the steel series, but I just haven't gotten around to buying one for the office to use yet.

u/Mr_Plakton · 2 pointsr/Competitiveoverwatch

Looks alright. I wouldn't reccomend Ryzen chips. I would probably get something more like an i7 6700k or the 6700 (which is around $20 cheaper if you can't justify the price) for gaming. If you end up choosing an Intel CPU you'll have to choose a different Mobo as well but there are lots of good ones.

I'd reccomend getting an entry level 144Hz Screen. If you can stretch to something like this I would seriously reccomend it, though it's not going to hurt you if you don't. I think it was Jake from LG Evil that made T500 early in the game on a Mac Book running OW in wine.

I personally don't like any gaming Headsets other than the HyperX Clouds. There is a huge quality difference between them and any other "gaming" headsets I have used.

As far as mice and keyboards, I would probably just buy a nice cheap Keyboard to begin with because there are no benefits really to having a good keyboard if you're on a budget. A mouse is kinda personal, I use a Steel Series Rival 100 but am a palm style user and am completely arm aim. It's a good cheap mouse but you may want something else if your grip style is different. My brother plays claw and doesn't mind it though.

Parts and gear you should prioritise for Overwatch are: Good GPU. 6GB 1060s are plenty for overwatch unless you want to be running the game at consistently over 240FPS (here's Taimou's settings btw. These will help with you configuring your settings for Overwatch). A fast CPU (Overwatch can be very CPU dependant). SSDs are kinda nice and fairly cheap. If you have a SSD btw you're at a direct benefit to most other players because you load in matches faster and can therefore instalock first, if that's your thing. :P Monitors are the most important peripheral by far in my opinion, followed closely by mice. If you're not getting a 144Hz screen now, you'll want one eventually (you won't need one but you'll want one). The only other peripheral that is important for Overwatch specifically is a mouse. This is one of those what suits your style things and there's no real correct answer but for First Person Shooters you usually want a nice light fast mouse. Ideally with 2 buttons on the side of the mouse for binding melee and voice. Just don't get a Razer and you'll be fine.

I'd probably ask on /r/buildapc as well because they'll probably give you better advice than this sub will. Best of luck dude with your transition to PC. Hope this helps.

Edit: oh and Mousepad! In the beginning I'd reccomend a nice control style mouse pad for getting used to using a mouse for aiming. I can't reccomend you any though because I have always used the mats that come in WoW TCG boxes since a family member has heaps of them and I've never used any other control style mats. The bigger the better.

u/2b2gbi · 2 pointsr/buildapcsales

Just a heads up, Amazon has it for this price as well if that's a better option for you.

u/LTyyyy · 2 pointsr/laptops

honestly, as someone who played lots of dota, I'm gonna say that all the buttons are not necessary, and from my experience are rather uncomfortable to press.

So I'm just gonna recommend what I always recommend (and use).

And that is the Steelseries rival 300 mouse, super comfortable if you have big hands and palm grip, flawless tracking, 3 additional buttons, love it to death.

And the Kingston Hyperx Mousepad, much thicker then the qck and very smooth, and rather big for the price.

u/ValorousVagabond · 2 pointsr/buildapc

Just to double check, do you mean this one?*Version*=1&*entries*=0

I only ask because I bought a Deathadder from Amazon and it turned out to be a newer model that's apparently smaller than the one I owned before.

u/_Undbitr · 2 pointsr/bapcsalescanada

Steelseries Rival is under 100 bucks, and sometimes goes on sale for much less. Rival 300

u/Electric2097 · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

Steelseries Rival 300. . I gave one to a good friend as a gift. She has generally no complaints and uses it primarily for csgo.

u/Syelnicar88 · 2 pointsr/starcraft

The Rival 300 is such a good, comfortable, no-BS mouse that I have an extra one in box should my current one fail. (It hasn't, in over three years. I haven't been as lucky with Razer and Logitech.) You can adjust DPI and color on it if you want, but I keep the color off, found one DPI and stuck with it.

With keyboards, mechanicals are the best on the market. They really do feel a lot better to press. They're also usually easy to pop the keys on and off, and usually are easy to clean. You also don't need a $179 keyboard, unless you like LEDs a lot. I like Corsair keyboards and the Cherry Red switch. Not too loud, good feel to them.

Layouts, if you feel up to starting from scratch, you might take the time to jump into TheCore: or, alternatively, TheCore Lite: These provide options for all 10 control groups to be accessible.

u/BoredInDe · 2 pointsr/hardwareswap

fair enough, but at 25 you're overcharging especially considering you don't specifically know the model it is.

u/TheWheeledOne · 2 pointsr/Games

He linked his, but thought I'd toss in another lower cost quality MMO option: Havit HV-MS735. Been using it for about a year and a half and its been rock solid.

u/Coffeeformewaifu · 2 pointsr/gamingsuggestions
u/kaje · 2 pointsr/OverwatchUniversity

Get a better mouse. A heavy mouse with an outdated laser sensor is not good. If you have to have an MMO mouse, something like this with a top of the line 3360 optical sensor would be better. It's still heavy at 125g though. A mouse under 100g would be more ideal.

u/luxasreddit · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Hotkeys are the words you’re looking for..

A quick google found me this never heard of the company but you won’t find one for less than £25 I don’t believe.

u/Zaxster99 · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

Build quality wise, its okay. Its made of a rough ABS plastic that feels like sand paper, it feels "gritty."

Sensor wise, all these mice suck. They all use laser sensors which have various issues such as not being able to track small movements and horrible lift off distance. The Naga Trinity has a top optical sensor but the Trinity will set you back around $100.

I would recommend the Havit MMO Mouse

or the Corsair Scimitar

Both have top optical sensors based on the Pixart 3360, a Logitech G502 class sensor.

u/Sinfullybliss · 2 pointsr/wownoob

I'm not sure about the keyboard, but I recently got a 12 side-button mouse and I loooooooooooove it. I got this one . I 'm a Guardian Druid and I have a lot of hotkeys I need, so now that I have this mouse I'm used to it and it's so easy. It's even got finger rests on the side. (And I know you shouldn't buy it just because of this, but it lights up and changes colors and it's pretty xD ).

u/squeezeonein · 2 pointsr/MouseReview

sure, you could adapt a wheel from another brand but it would be difficult, this is coming from someone who has done that before. The larger mice with numpads on the side tend to have older sensors. redgragon makes mmo mice also.

u/NotABrownCar · 2 pointsr/gaming

An overlooked part of the equation is a mouse pad. The joke about tryhards buying giant mousepads is not unfounded. Lower sensitivity is a good idea in most games and with a small mouse pad you'll find yourself running out of room too often. Buy a giant Steel Series QCK mousepad IMO.

Other than that buy something with the tried and true MX switches. Razer has gone to their own proprietary switch and there's nothing to suggest they're better and everything to suggest it was a cost cutting measure. Reds or browns are going to be best for FPS games IMO. Tenkeyless will allow you to better accommodate the giant mouse pad and not have your left arm/hand in an uncomfortable spot.

Mice are much more subjective. Figure out how you grip the mouse (palm/claw/fingertip) and start looking based off that. Laser vs. optical is a contested topic and in general you probably won't find a huge difference. The Logitech G Pro ( is generally regarded as having a top tier sensor and is reasonably priced. That's what I would buy if I had to buy a new mouse today.

u/AE0NIXZ · 2 pointsr/LogitechG

Logitech G Pro Wireless

Amazon Link

Highly recommended.

Changed my work life + at home with being able to set macros, I literally bring it everywhere with me in my backpack.


Also, the wireless, works like a charm, lasts 4-5 solid use w/ RGB, storable receiver slot underneath so you never lose it, clean ergonomic design!


Let me know if you have any questions.

Happy to help.

u/Deja-Intended · 2 pointsr/MechanicalKeyboards

My suggestion is the Logitech G305 for $10 over your budget, but it's got the best wireless sensor on the market. It isn't gamerized by any means and you can add macros to the side buttons if that's what you want. I really like the scroll wheel as well, it's rubberized and textured with distinct steps that aren't too tactile.

For a cheaper wired version, the Logitech G203 is the same mouse only it's using the gold-standard wired sensor. It has RGB, but you can turn it off. Other than that, it has the exact same features and shape.

A friend of mine bought the CM Devastator, but that was like 3 years ago and I don't remember what the mouse felt like(if the scroll wheel was mushy in comparison), but either of these are a lot better.

Granted, I'm using a G Pro which is yet another of the same style, it's just a little older and more expensive than the G203.

u/Camogaming_RealWood · 2 pointsr/csgo

So when it comes to buying a mouse it is really all about your play style and feel. If you like to palm the mouse meaning that your whole hand is round the mouse a good mouse is the Razer Deathadder If you like the claw grip using mostly only your finger tips than I would recommend the Logitech G Pro I personally now use this mouse but used the Deathadder for a number of years. Both mice have over a 12,000 dpi setting once you install the software you can adjust as you please, but tbh most likely you will play between 200-900 dpi and 1.2-3.2 sensitivity in game. All of this is preference and you will figure out over a long period of time playing key board again is all preference it depends if you like silent of mechanical Razer Cynosa is a very nice silent one in your price range, for mechanical I have owned a lot of them and tbh the one I use is a off brand one I bought from my local Walmart and and I like it more than any high dollar ones I have owned so you might want to look there. Also you will need a nice mouse pad I have and will probably continue to use for years the razer goliaths speed it is cloth and I like it, there are also hard pads many people I know use and enjoy the Corsait MM8800 but again this is all up to preference. Last thing if you are trying to play at any high lvl of competition you might want to look into a 144hz monitor if your computer can run what ever game you are playing over about 200fps I have Acer 24inch 144hz the price is really good and makes a huge difference. well that is about all I can think about I wish you the best of luck and above all just have fun.


u/tadpolebilly · 2 pointsr/WidowmakerMains

There is no correct sensitivity when it comes to playing a certain hero or playstyle. It's all personal preference and how much practice you have put into the hero and game. I have known players who are very good at aiming with both extremely high and low sensitivities. Of course, if you are setting your sensitivity for the first time like you just picked up a mouse, I would say set it to where a full span across your mousepad will do a 360. (With no acceleration. Make sure you turn that off. If your mouse has that on automatically, get a new one.) From there, you have to test yourself to see if you are over/undershooting, or you think it just feels incorrect. In the case where you have a small mousepad and bad mouse. Investing in a good mouse would probably be worth the money. You can find the best mouse for your handshape and grip which will probably turn up the best results. (RJN has a good website for easily finding it.) Or, if you are on a budget, there are nice mice which you can find for about $50 - assuming you are in the USA or can order from amazon easily. (Here a few options. Razer Deathadder, CORSAIR Harpoon, Logitech G Pro, one of my favourite mice, seriously.) If your mousepad feels like a problem, you can get one that fits your whole desk lengthwise. You don't have to get a big name brand or anything, just one that has decent quality.
Good luck with your games.

u/Sid6po1nt7 · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Was in the same position. Ended up getting Logitech G - G403 Prodigy & I love it. Like anything new it'll take some adjusting but not much. Tried it out at Best Buy so I'd go there to see if a demo is up & try it out.

They make a wireless one as well

u/Im_NotOriginal · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace
u/Javild · 2 pointsr/buildapcforme

This is probably as overkill as it gets before starting to lose performance.

CPU | Intel - Core i9-9940X 3.3 GHz 14-Core Processor | $1815.75 @ shopRBC
Motherboard | Asus - ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME OMEGA EATX LGA2066 Motherboard | $1027.44 @ Amazon Canada
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 128 GB (8 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $1179.87 @ Amazon Canada
Storage | Samsung - 970 Evo 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $659.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage | Samsung - 970 Evo 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $659.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card | Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual OC Video Card (2-Way SLI) | $1569.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card | Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual OC Video Card | $1569.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case | Corsair - 1000D ATX Full Tower Case | $412.33 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA T2 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $465.18 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan | $37.90 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan | $37.90 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan | $37.90 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan | Noctua - NF-A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan | $37.90 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor | Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor | $799.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor | Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor | $799.99 @ Amazon Canada
Main Monitor | Asus - ROG SWIFT PG27UQ 27.0" 3840x2160 144 Hz Monitor | $2398.99 @ Powertop
Keyboard | Corsair - K95 RGB PLATINUM Wired Gaming Keyboard | $269.99 @ Amazon Canada
Mouse | Logitech - G502 LIGHTSPEED Wireless Optical Mouse | $199.99 @ Amazon Canada
Headphones | Sennheiser - HD 650 Headphones | $492.29 @ Amazon Canada
Microphone | Rode NT-USB USB Condenser Microphone | $225.00 @ Amazon Canada
Headphone Amp | Audioengine D1 24-bit Digital-to-Analog Converter | $229.99 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream SE 480 (Slim Quad) Radiator | $132.28 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-Cable Splitter 4-Fan PWM Extended, 2-pack | $32.99 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-ACF Compression Fitting for Soft Tubing, 10/16mm (3/8" ID, 5/8" OD), Black, 4-pack | $53.11 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-ACF Compression Fitting for Soft Tubing, 10/16mm (3/8" ID, 5/8" OD), Black, 4-pack | $53.11 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-ACF Compression Fitting for Soft Tubing, 10/16mm (3/8" ID, 5/8" OD), Black, 4-pack | $53.11 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-ACF Compression Fitting for Soft Tubing, 10/16mm (3/8" ID, 5/8" OD), Black, 4-pack | $53.11 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-Furious Vardar EVO 140 PWM 140mm Fan, 2500 RPM, 2-pack | $88.00 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-Furious Vardar EVO 140 PWM 140mm Fan, 2500 RPM, 2-pack | $88.00 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Loop | EKWB EK-Velocity CPU Waterblock, Intel CPU, Copper/Plexi | $138.42 @ Amazon Canada
Mousepad| Logitech Powerplay Wireless Charging Mat| $203.00
Custom Loop| EK-CoolStream CE 420 | $135.00
Custom Loop| EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM| $255.00
Custom Loop| EK Vector RTX RE Ti RGB| $230.00
Custom Loop| EK Vector RTX RE Ti RGB| $230.00
Custom Loop| EK-Vector RTX Backplate – Nickel| $72.00
Custom Loop| EK-Vector RTX Backplate – Nickel| $72.00
Custom Loop| EK-FC Terminal X2 3-slot – Plexi| $50.00
Custom Loop| EK-DuraClear 9,5/15,9mm 3M RETAIL| $27.00
Custom Loop| EK-CryoFuel Solid Cloud White (250mL) BUY 5| $20.00
| Total | $16914.49

This uses a custom cooling loop, it is not very hard to make since I used soft tubing, but if you don't want to use that, you can get 2 of THIS or THIS GPU and THIS CPU Cooler and just remove all the Custom Loop parts.

For the main monitor, I chose a 4K 144Hz monitor and 2 secondary 1440p 165Hz monitors which can also be used for gaming or can be used when you stream.

For the CPU I chose a 14 core i9 CPU, which has the best balance of cores and clock speed of the i9 CPUs, you could get more cores but the clock speed will drop a lot and so will your gaming performance.

u/ChiIIerr · 2 pointsr/destiny2

That'd be this one:

I have the g903 and have LOVED it. No issues, no latency, and the lack of the wire has (I shit you not) improved my aim whenever my mouse gets to the edge of my mousepad/desk from the lack of friction/drag.

u/TheSirWilliam · 2 pointsr/pcmasterrace

Literally everywhere. I'm talking about their new version, it's wireless.

u/tomkat968 · 1 pointr/buildapc
u/EpicRisc · 1 pointr/Guildwars2

I'm a leftie too and also play with the mouse in my left hand.
At the moment I use a Razer Taipan:

Before I used the Razer DeathAdder LeftHand Edition:

both of them are really good.

Key-Binding-Wise I use

1 - Skill 1 - Index finger

2 - Skill 2 - Index finger / Middle finger

3 - Skill 3 - Middle finger / Ring finger

4 - Skill 4 - Ring finger

STRG - Skill 5 - Thumb

6 - Skill 6 - Little finger (maybe strange but I find it easier to reach 6 than 5)

Q - Skill 7 - Index finger

E - Skill 8 - Ring finger

C - Skill 9 - Little finger / Ring finger

X - Skill 10 (Elite) - Middle Finger / Ring finger

V - Dodge - Little finger

Space - Jump - Little finger

F1 - Class-specific skill - Index finger

(As you might see some of them vary between fingers, that's because it sometimes depends on which movement keys are beeing used right now)

There would also be the possibility to use G, T or H with you're little finger to access some Skills you otherwise find difficult to reach.

I use the Ryos MK Pro Keyboard which provides additional keys on the left side which also could be used (even if I don't) and of course the functional keys on the mouse.

Keyboards with special function keys on the left side are also available for much less $$$ btw. for example:

u/KissMyMass · 1 pointr/MouseReview

On Amazon there is a left handed Deathadder 3500.

u/EpicTShirt · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

you shouldn't say that you feel comfortable playing on 800 DPI, most of us play on that or lower (e.g. i use 400)

anyways, its sadly razer but its the only one which is actually good for gaming somehow

u/aragon58 · 1 pointr/buildapc

There aren't a whole lot but Razer is like the only company that makes left handed gaming mice but here is one that Im planning on getting:

u/Deckard_Didnt_Die · 1 pointr/battlestations

I have been using the Razor DeathAdder for like 8-9 years now and I absolutely love it. My first one lasted like 7 years before it finally started breaking. Here is a link to the left handed edition on amazon.

u/JackalTV · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Edit: I just noticed it's a "death adder essential" how is that different from regular ones?

u/Luftwaffles93 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

This is what I use. It works well, has 4 extra buttons, two on each side and isn't overly flashy. You can create two sensitivity profiles that you can change on the fly which is nice if you prefer varying sensitivity for different types of games. It won't break the bank either.

u/Sirlami · 1 pointr/leagueoflegends

I use this one, it's not so fancy but i think it suits for long gaming sessions and is not too heavy.

u/Scary_New_World · 1 pointr/IndiaNonPolitical

>3200dpi vs 16000

DPI is not everything. In most use cases it does not even make sense to have so much DPI. If you have a multi-monitor setup or an ultrawide gaming rig it makes sense to have a higher sensitivity because it will take the whole table to move from one side of the screen to other. Also, by rule of thumb, if you use a higher sensitivity you are sacrificing speed for accuracy. Depends on what you want.

I used to play CS:GO with a dpi setting of 400 and in-game sensitivity of 1 or 1.2.

>no led vs 16.8M croma color lightings

Don't care.

>plain plastic vs rubber side grips

This may be a point but rubber also makes your hand sweat a lot. Take it from me, I own this mouse

u/MissingNo1028 · 1 pointr/pcgaming

The one I use is the Steelseries Sensei which seems like a reliable, nice mouse.

u/BlindSp0t · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Just go with Ramzinho suggestion as it's the best (you should try out some mice for yourself, see which one fits your hand and your grip better, only you can do that).

But as you asked for a rundown of mice, here's my experience:

A4Tech AK47


  • Really cheap
  • Solid
  • ambidextrous
  • Can select out of a few DPI settings


  • No additional buttons (thumb or otherwise) except for the DPI switch.
  • Kinda flat
  • Ugly design

    My first "gaming" mouse, I had no money left after building my computer so I went for this one. It's good for a starting mouse, but low end and the missing thumb buttons are a big turn off.

    Logitech G700


  • Logitech freeroll mousewheel
  • Polling Rate and DPI settings


  • Heavy
  • The charging cable is super hard to move and you are required to use it at times since the mouse battery is insanely ridicule. I mean it lasts only a few hours on a full charge...
  • Battery is shit
  • Mousewheel quality is shit. Broke 2 mice in a month.
  • Kinda weird grip on the mouse, not really comfortable.
  • Logitech gaming software
  • Only for right handed people

    This mouse is huge, has a lot of features, a lot of buttons, and a lot of flaws. Not recommanded for fast paced gaming because of the short battery duration or heavy ass charging cable.

    Razer DeathAdder


  • Not really expensive in the US (really expensive everywhere else tho)
  • Best form factor for a lot of people (subjective)
  • Nice and big thumb buttons
  • Nice and satisfactory click when pressing buttons
  • Available for both right and left handed persons
  • DPI and polling rate settings
  • Really low activation point (<3mm) so you won't make huge weird movements if you're one of those that lift their mouse a lot.
  • Can save profiles


  • Razer Quality (broke 3 over a total timespan of 2 years)
  • Razer Gaming Software

    One of the best mice I used overall, I'll still be using one if they weren't so cheaply made and broke so much.

    Steelseries Sensei Raw Rubber


  • Ambidextrous
  • Good form factor if you have big hands
  • DPI and polling rate settings
  • Low activation point


  • Issues with the mousewheel

    A good mouse overall, but kinda bland compared to others, as in not really providing good value for the money. Also has mousewheel issues, which is what made me switch to something else. The issue appeared after a good 7 or 8 months, but was really fucking with me after a while. Basically it would go randomly up when you scrolled down, and vice versa.

    Zowie FK2


  • NO DRIVER!!!
  • Ambidextrous
  • DPI and polling rate settings (you can't precisely set your DPI, but you have 4 settings to switch from a button)
  • Really precise
  • Really low activation point (almost on par with razer's deathadder on a razer goliathus mat)
  • Really solid build
  • discreet mouse if you're not into the usual gaming gear design


  • Not braided cable (my cat chewed the cable off of my first FK2 :()
  • kinda expensive for the amount of goodies it carries
  • The DPI button is located below the mouse, so it's not practical if you like to switch on the fly during gameplay.

    The mouse I'm currently using. It comes close second to Razer in terms of how comfortable it is for me. It's light years ahead in terms of quality. As you probably remarked, I'm not really taking care of my mice (thanks CS), but this one is indestructible. No driver bullshit, but that means no precise DPI settings (you've got 4: 400, 800, 1600 and 3200), and no profiles but that really isn't an issue. Large Teflon pads, it glides really nicely on my goliathus control mat, almost as well as the deathadder. Dunno what else to say, apart that I'm currently happy with it even though I long for the day someone makes a solid deathadder. I'm even using the one my cat chewed the cable off of at work, with a bit of tape it's working fine as long as I don't move the cable too much.

    edit: who puts an "s" at the end of mice?
u/Talynen · 1 pointr/summonerschool

I would recommend going to your local computer store/Frys electronics/whatever that has gaming mice and trying to find something that is comfortable for you.

League of legends does not require more than a 3 button mouse in any way shape or form (most pros dont use mouse buttons or change keybindings in any significant way aside from setting dumb cast to shift + qwer)

Essentially, this means that getting a mouse that you can use comfortably, which has no built in acceleration etc. is more important than having 60000 buttons.

These are my favorite mice

u/TheJuciestPixel · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

The Sensei Raw is less than $40 on amazon, I have no idea how much shipping will cost (if it even costs anything)

u/SkyGuy182 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

As a fellow lefty, I highly recommend the SteelSeries Sensei. It has additional buttons on the left and right of the mouse and has a symmetrical design that appeases both types of hands. I've used mine for close to two years and have loved, and my girlfriend has owned hers for half a year and loves hers as well.

u/notwitty_username · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I love my SteelSeries.

u/splangomango · 1 pointr/MechanicalKeyboards

That is a Steelseries Sensei [RAW] with rubberized finish, like this one here

u/siRing_TV · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Well, at that range you have a few options.

Of course, as I use steelseries myself, I would recommend something along the lines of a Steelseries Rival 300 which is on sale on Amazon right now for 44.95$.

If you want something a little cheaper, whilst still maintaining a good quality, I recommend you take a look at the Rival 100 from steelseries, which is currently 39.99.

If you feel like going for the more low(ish) approach, I would say the Sensei Laser Mouse, though it looks small and kinda uncomfy, if you have big hands(like me), but it is only 36.88 at the moment. :D

u/Tjmoores · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I've been using this for the past 1.5 years and its still working like the day I got it and showing few signs of aesthetic wear and tear despite being taken to and from school in my bag on average about 3 days a week since then, along with the normal usage and me being particularly clumsy

u/Launchers · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

Amazon has a lot of refurbed steelseries mouses for good prices.

u/WenisInVietnam · 1 pointr/G502MasterRace

I agree with that, but a ton of others s s also look normal. I like it. You don't have to.

u/rydogg707 · 1 pointr/thedivision

A few years ago I upgraded to the Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Tactile High-Speed Keys and the SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse in hopes of getting better. Played a bunch of Battlefield 4 on it, was ok. But when I got BF4 on sale for the Xbox later... man it was seriously night and day how much better I was with a controller.

Funny thing is, I'm really good at World of Warcraft PvP with his keyboard mouse set up. But when you think about it, you have sticky target. You don't aim, all you have to do is move around. That helped me figure out what I can't get down in FPS, the combination of moving AND aiming!

I'm a straight up weirdo! Haha.

u/Mophead_2712 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

CM Storm Quickfire TK - It is mechanical, it sounds great and is compact if you don't have a lot of space on your desk (like me).
Steelseries Sensei Raw Rubberised - it is pretty cheap and can be used by left and right hand users.#

u/_Goose_ · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Steelseries sensei.

I have it and I love it.

u/JustAnotherINFTP · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

The Steel Series Sensei (RAW) is available at Amazon for < $38 and free shipping. Are you flexible on price? And do you have more pictures / know the dimensions? Amazon has it listed as ~2" x ~6" x ~7", but that sounds like box dimensions to me.

u/DoctorKnob52 · 1 pointr/battlestations

I hope the best for you. If you need to vent let me know. Strangers can be the best listeners.

The Mouse is a SteelSeries Sensei RAW. Not the most expensive or fancy, but I love it so much.

SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse RAW - Rubberized Black

u/cantintospace · 1 pointr/battlestations
u/camaronmars · 1 pointr/MouseReview

I tried it and it is really too big for me. If palm on my hand on the mouse, the hump is too high and it makes me feel really inconfortable (my arm muscle's are working hard to hand it, thats bad). While the ZA 12 was too small to palm perfectly (it also gave me a lot of pain, more than the za 11).

I tried ZA-11 and ZA-12 and they are not made for me. The SteelSerie Laser Sensei Raw (images of dimensions : stayed the better to play long time.

what i can say about the sensei raw is that it is a little too short (my two right figners can't be perfectly rested on the side when handing it hard), and that's their somehow something that make it not the best to wrist movements (although wrist movements are possible), I think because of it's size and shape.

I'll give it a try to the EC1A, who seems to be used by pro fps players. I don't know if it will fit as the hump is higher than the ZA11 but also it's a bit more further on the mouse.

If it's not ok, I guess i'll give a try to the FK1 or FK1+.

I hope I'll be able to find a good mouse and play again! I tried quickly the death adder chroma today, it seems good, althoug again it could be a little bit longer to be able ro make my finger rests perfectly on the side.

u/Zeus733 · 1 pointr/HardwareSwapUK

It's a SteelSeries Sensei Raw. Black colour. Same as this one.
How about £28?

u/matschundbrei · 1 pointr/linuxquestions

I am using the Steelseries Sensei, which is basically an exact replica of the MS Intellimouse, but with much improved technology at an IMHO fair price of 44.99

u/sevenpioverthree · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

You and I are alike, here's my mouse:

I regret getting the rubberized black because it'll show any kind of perspiration from my hand, but I love the design. Customizable DPI in increments of 90 up to 5670, you can turn off the leds, has a dpi switch and only 4 extra customizable buttons. The software that steelseries makes for it is pretty nice too. You don't need to run it at boot and I'd avoid running it often because it's always trying to update..

u/hackitfast · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/pcgaming

I have this mouse, Bomb. -

If you need a new mouse, I suggest that, change colors, DPI settings, its own program, Grip doesnt come off, cord is good, etc.

u/MisterBreeze · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/mimcczr1 · 1 pointr/buildapc

I bought this mouse about a year ago and am really loving it, good weight to it (the weight is adjustable) and the clicks feel really solid too.

I've never had any trouble with build quality either.

u/Blieque · 1 pointr/techsupportgore

I recently got a new mouse for £24. When I was looking at what to get, I decided to put my hatred for Razer aside for a moment. The DeathAdder seemed like the best for me, and I noted down its price of ~£40. It was only later that I found the Perixx mouse. The customisation in the software is very impressive, and the settings are saved to the actual mouse rather than the computer. You can uninstall the mouse's software even, if you like. I feel like I've gotten something worth three times more than the Razer mouse, and it was only 60% of the cost.

My friend has one of their headsets, and although it is alright (low volume, iffy sound, great mic) it cost him £60. I'm sure even the £24 Plantronics headsets on Amazon are as good.

As for the keyboards, you'll be lectured dare you show one on /r/MechanicalKeyboards. They use knock-off switches which they (naturally) claim are better, but I'll take Cherry's switches over their's any day.

u/BN91 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

This is what I've been using for about 3 years now. Everyday, 8+ hours a day. I chose this one because is has an extension on the left side of the mouse that acts as a thumb rest. I don't like feeling my thumb drag across the mouse pad. It come with weights to adjust to your liking and extra pads to put on the mouse to keep it sliding smoothly. Its got lights that you can turn off or constantly on or set to pulse mode... So far it's been a solid affordable mouse. I'll drop a link.

edit: I left a lot out. like breaded cable. 5600dpi. rubber gripping...etc. just check out the link lol

u/FamishedHippopotamus · 1 pointr/buildapc

Something with adjustable DPI would work fine. Doesn't have to be really fancy and expensive, I got mine for around $25 on sale.

Just the mouse I use. It's pretty good and has some nice features.

u/storm128 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Can't comment on the mousepad, but it sounds like my keyboard/mouse setup may be what you're looking for. I use a Perixx MX2000II (the software lets you change it red) and a CM Storm Quickfire TK with cherry mx red switches. The keyboard makes the combo over your budget, but if you can get it on sale, it should work out alright, plus you're getting a sweet mechanical keyboard. I've got them both setup here if you want to see them.

u/alexskate · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

Steelseries Kana CS:GO Edition, gifted me by friends on my birthday.

But i used before.

u/LongDevil · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I'm fond of the Perixx MX-2000II. Just enough buttons for me and a nice DPI toggle. Not bad for the $20 I paid for it at the time.

u/SYCarrot · 1 pointr/buildapc

I don't really have an experience, but what about this one? or this one?

u/AToyGoat · 1 pointr/buildapc

If you do decide you need a new mouse consider this Perixx MX, its the one I've been using for around six months now it performs like a much more expensive mouse and is completely customisable in terms of DPI and profiles.

u/snipe_sos · 1 pointr/MouseReview
u/Magnetic_Tree · 1 pointr/buildapc

This is the mouse I use.

It is an absolute STEAL for 25 bucks.

DPI adjustment, 3 extra buttons, great cord, adjustable weight, and RGB LED lighting on the wheel and logo

u/treadedon · 1 pointr/vandwellers

True true. I don't get how people can not sit the right way. I can feel the hurt every time I use someone else station.

You play games with the trackball?

THis is my mouse:

u/spreadofsong · 1 pointr/gadgets

I highly recommend the perixx m2000. I've had it few a few years now and works like a charm. Its got a couple extra buttons on it but nothing too fancy. $25 ish on amazon.

u/Brapsputin · 1 pointr/graphic_design

I use a Perixx 2000B, would recommend. Has 11 buttons which are really useful (although I probably use 7/8)

Comes with 6 weights that you can add/remove as you please too. I use mine at the heaviest setting.

u/Scottish__Beef · 1 pointr/buildapc
u/qwertymaster1234 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace its a cheap but amazing to use mouse with lots of features and buttons and adjustable weights, its built by a german company so you know its made to last

u/sneakystratus · 1 pointr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

I have this guy on my WL for if I can ever afford to get a good moose, or Razer Naga seems like an inexpensive alternative which is also pretty good.

As to gaming pads, nobody can tell you. Some people are just 'gaming pad' people and others aren't. No way to really know without trying it :P

u/_butterteeth · 1 pointr/buildapc

I love it. It has 4 different profiles, several different color options and a "breathing" function which makes the light pulse. 8 different buttons, all programmable. Sleeved wire and weights to make the mouse heavier. You can cycle the profiles you create with the software on the fly.

u/SirSmokesAlott · 1 pointr/buildapc
I use this and never looked back..

u/SuspiciousDuck · 1 pointr/buildapc

I'm a bit late to the party but I would highly recommend this. It is cheap and amazing, slightly on the small side but it is great. It has an adjustable weight, macros, custom led, DPI button so you can change your DPI on the fly. Highly recommend and for the price its 100% worth it!

u/cslb81 · 1 pointr/gadgets

I own a perixx mx-2000 it is a bit ridiculous looking but it feels amazing it has 8 buttons that can all be programmed you can change the sensitivity for sniping with the touch of a button and it is very cheap 25$ it also has adjustable weight comes with a really good software

u/chapstickbomber · 1 pointr/hardware

You should try the Perixx MX-2000B. It is cheap, ergonomic, accurate, programmable, DPI adjustable on the fly, good scroll wheel and click, omron switches, and it has the sexiest, most useful thumb button a mouse has ever seen.

I had a G500. This is better.

u/BestSingedHawai · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

Ok,i currently use the Roccat Kone XTD got it 2 years ago and its still AMAZING ! If this mouse every breaks i will get a Zowie FK1 (currently out of stock for amazon but you can get it somewhere else). The Zowie FK1 somewhat forces you to have it a "clawgrip" which makes your aim more accurate. And when i used it at my friends house i sometimes forgot that im using it. :) (same goes for the Kone XTD) I have Semi Big hands :) EDIT: i heard the Corsair Vengance mouse is REALLY REALLY good too. Its optimized for FPS games. EDIT2: And you should probably take a look at this mouse :)

u/dstaller · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Just give them the money and they'll send it to you for me. Your Welcome.

u/ys0serious · 1 pointr/purebattlefield

This is the mouse the I use and I would highly recommend it:

I think this is on the very limit of your budget, if not barely over though.

As for headsets, I use these:

I have been happy with these, they aren't the top of the line, but they get the job done for me.

u/HeyJoshuah · 1 pointr/tall

I used this mouse at work for months and it was amazing, highly recommend it.

I use this mouse for home, also really nice. Both are large mice which are extremely comfortable to use.

u/acidRain_burns · 1 pointr/starcitizen

Well... ive used lots of mice. The first gen LG Darkfield Anywhere MX is the best iv ever used but no longer for sale. The next best has been the Roccat Kone XTD

Highly reccomended. Never had any problems, excellent response (none of that hangup and skip razers have at times), plenty of buttons without being overwhelming, glorious scroll wheel, matte finish (no sweat!), adaptable weight and on the fly dpi, and solid build quality.

Edit: also no software required, but the roccat config software works well.

Not sure if you were after a reccomendation, but there ya go.

u/thebinderclip_ · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/skiskate · 1 pointr/buildapc

Not saying Razer is bad, they just need to focus on making their products last longer.

If you are looking for other mice:
These are some of the best.

Well technically piracy is not illegal in general because you can not be fined for downloading something made public on the internet, only uploading it. Your ISP will however try and limit your piracy habits as it makes them look bad. Now Apple specifically states that your copy of OSX should not be used on a non-apple device in its terms and conditions. But nobody ever listens to those anyways so it will probably not affect you in any way whatsoever.

As for Mac OSX as an OS, its alright. I have a Mac pro 2011 and a HP Z803 and I use both for editing video in Premiere and After Effects. Honestly in terms of editing alone I have come to I prefer Windows over Mac just for the more logical filing structure. Mac does have the advantage of the Apple ProRes Codecs and Final Cut, but I have almost no need for either. Windows is just so much more open to 3rd party editing tools or even major ones like Octane Render which is incompatible with all Macs because they are using AMD Firepro GPUs.
Also windows absolutely smokes Mac at gaming. In conclusion, I see the appeal of Mac, but it does not serve me any benefit and honestly feels quite restricting.

u/alexbrobrafeld · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

> Are the 256GB of SSD very important or can I go with the 1,4k$ model?

SSD is nice my pc restarts in a matter of seconds. it is not essential though. also that other model for 1400 only has a 1060 card. it's worth the extra cash for 1070 and ssd IMO.

> How does the trackpad feel?

it's fine for work but for gaming you are going to want to use an external mouse

> How many travel distance have the keys on the keyboard?

not sure about a technical answer but it's chiclet style keys, no complaints but i use an mechanical external to game on

> How many RAM does the GPU has?

i believe all mobile 1070's are 8gb, this one is for sure.

> How many hours of battery does it have?

major complaint on this, it's like an hour of gaming, 2-3 hours of work

> What mouse do you recommend me to buy alongside with this laptop?

that's gonna depend on who you ask i own these a roccat and a steel series, i prefer the roccat | roccat mouse | steel series mouse

> Does the fans produce a lot of noise?

only during gaming, its not enough to interfere with sound coming through the built in speakers and if i have a headset on i don't hear anything

> Which is the average temperature of the 1070 model?

running overwatch on ultra through at 1080 puts up to 79 celcius, during work stuff it stays between 40-50

> Which material is it made of?


to reiterate you can do better for more money, but i think the minor compromises are worth it for the price tag. and if you're not in a rush this will certainly drop in price over the next few months as competition catches up. also i tried overwatch on my tv at 4k and it was kinda sick, but my kb/m aren't wireless so i sucked at the game lol

u/Ass_selfie · 1 pointr/MechanicalKeyboards
u/Profoundsoup · 1 pointr/pcgaming

This is the mouse I use if you have big hands and are a palm gripper. You cant get a better feeling mouse. I have had to try 10 difference mice before I found this one. Its optical as well! [Amazon Link] (

u/YoungBonesGaming · 1 pointr/letsplay

I don't know if they're the best, but I had a Roccat Iksu keyboard which was practically silent unless you properly bashed it, comes with five programmable macros on the left and three on the palm rest under the space bar.

I'm currently using the Roccat Kone mouse which I love as it has a comfortable design, a slick matte finish which doesn't get all clammy when your hands get warm, a scroll wheel which can also scroll sideways as well as a DPI adjuster which you can use on the fly (goes up to 8200 DPI) two additional side buttons for forward and backwards on browsers and a Windows button at the top.

If you go for these and like your pretty lights, you can go for the XTD variants.

For just a general good keyboard, I've just got a Razer Blackwidow Chroma which I can play Snake on. So that's nice. It's just loud as it's mechanical but I believe there is a silent version as well.

u/herogerik · 1 pointr/pcgaming

The Roccat Kone XTD is an excellent mouse with lots of features. Has worked flawlessly for me since day one. Good build quality. Roccat in general make good mice. Logitech as well.

u/LittleHelperRobot · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive


^That's ^why ^I'm ^here, ^I ^don't ^judge ^you. ^PM ^/u/xl0 ^if ^I'm ^causing ^any ^trouble. ^WUT?

u/xgtb · 1 pointr/battlestations
u/GuessWhoCXVII · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/Crimtide · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I wouldn't call this the best.. but it's wireless, adjustable, and 1ms..

u/Calamity701 · 1 pointr/linux
u/David_The_Atheist · 1 pointr/Glock
u/Astromanaught · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

if you're interested in trades i've got:

Naga MMO -

and a R.A.T 9 MMO

would consider either as trade straight up for the New in Box one. both retail for more than what you're asking, they are used but working like new.- just went back to my Sidewinder mouse.

send a PM if interested.

u/boostedmk · 1 pointr/battlestations

I'm not sure what your asking but the mouse I use is this Mad Catz R.A.T.9 Gaming Mouse for PC and Mac

u/2346758654453 · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

I use the G400s and it has a groove above my pinky that I keep it on, although at first it was uncomfortable I just got used to it over time. At the time I was looking for a solution and some mice have a pinky finger rest like the RAT9 so if it is a problem for you one of those mice might help.

u/ghjijhg · 1 pointr/chess

I suggest you get the R.A.T.9 mouse. It might not be fast enough for 1+0 bullet though.

u/Schrute_Farms_ · 1 pointr/xboxone

Hell, when it comes to PC peripherals, one of the best FPS mice (from a brand many people say is overpriced mind you, you can get cheaper) is only $60. Paying hundreds of dollars for any peripheral is somewhat a waste unless you are a top tier player or you have a very niche need (handicap for example). And even then, top tier players usually want a no frills, accurate solution. Not something that costs a lot of money with a lot of bullshit tacked on (this isn't talking about the elite, just shit like this, though that still isn't a super expensive mouse).

u/call_me_cthulhu_ · 1 pointr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

I was using a mouse similar to this one which broke a USB port and was pretty sucky to use in a game. Using a gaming mouse is a completely different experience. Haha yes that mouse is like an alien version of a normal mouse but if you really want your jaw to drop there's always cyborg mice. Speaking of this is how I imagine a regular mouse woke up one morning realizing it had been turned into a cyborg. Sorry for my lame humor >_<

u/ammcneil · 1 pointr/gaming
u/chrisawhitmore · 1 pointr/buildapcforme

For some reason it won't link the keyboard and mouse, so they're here: [mouse] ( and keyboard.

u/nevermind13jet · 1 pointr/buildapcforme

Maybe also a Razer mouse and mousepad to look good together?

u/VinnieMG · 1 pointr/pcgaming

Honestly, I couldn't recommend the [Deathadder] ( more. It's one of the greatest mice I've ever had,and it fits my hand great. However, if that's not your thing, the Roccat Kone XTD optical is pretty great, and has tons of utility-options.

u/CrisKrossed · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

It's this mouse. It has 2 side buttons. You can see them in this picture.

u/WolfType · 1 pointr/buildapc

A lot of people choose this. And when I say a lot, I mean a lot. I'm not so much a fan of it, but if at least 50% of gamers buy it must be good.

u/satopunch89 · 1 pointr/Random_Acts_Of_Amazon

I could really do with A new mouse when I build my new PC :P At the moment, I have this cheap, filthy HP mouse that's served me for longer than it should be capable of...

So, Hello, Goodbye~ and thanks for the contest!

Edit: US Link just in case :P it says it's available for Prime, but not on the item page, weirdly. If you search 'Razer Deathadder' it shows the Prime logo next to the item though.

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u/Ursa420 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
For 40 dollars cheaper and is 4.5 stars, also the razer Naga is 60 dollars now :P

u/lololoz · 1 pointr/wow

Someone on r/pcmasterrace recommended this one a while ago, and it's on my radar for an entry level "MMO" mouse

u/EonProspero · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

This Beauty is what im currently using and its great its an MMO mouse so you can use some extra buttons for DOTA 2 as I have done. Its cheap too, it uses good quality parts but isnt expensive because the brand name is that big, if you want a review this one from teksyndicate is what got me to buy it.

u/msangeld · 1 pointr/wow

> I find myself standing still when I attack mobs. I can't seem to get the hang of moving around when attacking. I use the mouse to choose my attacks instead of the number keys. The number keys just feel... "off". I walk around using right-click instead of WASD. So that's why I'm having trouble moving when attacking. I'm also coming from console so kb+m is still a bit whacky for me.

If you think you might be sticking around for a while, I highly recommend picking up an MMO mouse This one is the same one my hubby uses and is relatively inexpensive. I personally could never acclimate to using keyboard keybinds, but an MMO mouse seriously helped me and my gameplay.

u/touchthesun · 1 pointr/gaming

yeah, I got this mouse on Amazon for $40. Thing kicks ass.

u/Hakooh- · 1 pointr/wow

I had a Naga for about a year before the left click went out on me. I went a cheap route and bought this chinese mouse from Amazon called a UTech Smart... It has the 12 buttons on the side and a few others, I actually like it alot! Been using it for about 8 or 9 months and it's still working great, was only $35 dollars. Edit: Looks like it's closer to $40. It's a UTechSmart Venus

u/execrutr · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Please read my original rant about this product.

You have to ask yourself if the advertised productivity features are:

  • already baked into the OS and normal peripherals.^1
  • or easily repdoducable with macros^2

    And based on that, whether it's worth your money. Considering the facts you could easily deduce in a few minutes, how the macros/analogue buttons work, the conclusion is that there is almost no R&D in this product.

    I guarantee all the additional buttons borrow from either the keyboard (numpad keys) or xinput for the analogue buttons. Theres no magic to it. If you need macros you have the hardware and software readily available to you, just be creative with keybinds.

    If it's just about the additional buttons there are absurdly chear solutions out there.

    1: (pan with middle mouse button, their copy & paste shenanigans = multiple clicks and or ctrl+a/c/v)

    2: in either the abundant gui/drivers that come with mice/keyboards these days or autoIT/autohotkey.
u/Siebolic · 1 pointr/classicwow

this one is by far my favorite mouse. im using it for a very long time now

u/Iskelion · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Probably something like this:

Or this (a shame it isn't quiet):

The thing is I don't know much about mice and it's brands, so maybe 2 that look similar to me it's really one worse than the other and paying 90% brand name, or one being more prone to malfunctions (kofkof* Razer).

I can bump the price if it's justified and I know the mouse is gonna last, I mean, the Naga cost me I think something like 80$ back when I bought it, but considering how it ended up, maybe I paid more than I should have, though a 175 dollars one would have to scratch my back and make me smoothies, lol.
But idk, maybe that's the standard pricing.

u/pwnie123 · 1 pointr/classicwow

My favorite mouse if you want the type of mouse that has a lot of buttons:

I've been using this mouse for awhile now and haven't had double clicking issues like I did with Razr / Logitech mouse. Plus it's a bargain!

Otherwise, I use this while I game on the bed if I don't use a controller:

Despite my stab at Logitech earlier, this mouse is by far the most responsive wireless mouse I've used. Not only that, it can be used on almost any surface since sometimes I use it on a pillow / bed sheet while lounging around in bed and playing games on the TV via steam link.

As for keyboards, for wired I use:

I forgot what brand my wired keyboard is since I'm not home at the moment.

For wireless on the bed, I use:

Like above, the Lightspeed tech makes it super responsive even at more than 10ft away. Not only that, you can switch between Bluetooth / Lightspeed allowing you to control up to two different machines at a flip of the switch.

u/pooptypeuptypantss · 1 pointr/classicwow

A lot of people are saying the Naga, and yes, it's a good mouse, but I have bought too many Razer mice that failed after less than a year. Something would go on them, like the scroll wheel would become wonky and not scroll properly, the left click button would start registering as a double click when I only clicked it once. This has happened with literally every Razer product I have ever bought. Never again.

The most recent mouse I have been using for more than a year now that hasn't shown any signs of wear and tear is this

It's essentially exactly the same as the Naga, it's cheaper, has more profiles to customize, more buttons on it. It's just been a great mouse that hasn't shit the bed in over a year, which is more than I can say for any Razer product.

u/mazrim12 · 1 pointr/patientgamers

I've been using this mouse for a while now and absolutely love it. Not wireless, but I prefer wired anyway.

Gaming mouse

u/MenacingErmine · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I got this mouse (Utech Venus) as a gift and I map all my normally inaccessible number pad keys onto the side. I've used it for almost a year and it's decent build quality and functionality is a steal for it's price. To add to this, I got a Steam controller for $50 and for less than half the price of the Elite controller it has 10 times the button mapping capability of it. It blows me away how shallow a console user's view of customizability is, when they view the Elite controller as the pinnacle of customization.

u/SoftQuittingReddit · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

That is what it is. I would consider this mouse in case you ever want to get a new one that is similar. It's more ergonomic, imo

u/CHTCB · 1 pointr/dayz
i dont use but like 2 or 3 buttons on the side, my first thought was, this would be cool for someone whos lost a hand.

u/-Duck- · 1 pointr/rhythmgames

I ended up going with the UtechSmart Venus. It was a really tough choice between the two, but this one seemed to be more ergonomic while offering similar features

As for audiosurf, on AS2, my computer only hits 45-50 fps (old laptop). I was trying to find mods to make the game easier to run, as I'd like to be able to play ninja turbo (or your mod). Do you know if that's available? Otherwise, is there any way to make AS1's mono faster than elite ironmode [as-steep]?

u/Lightwander · 1 pointr/ffxiv
u/billybeanbags · 1 pointr/FortNiteBR2Deep

Get this mouse:

Map the building buttons (wall, ramp, floor) to the back row (closest to your palm) 10, 11, 12.

It made building effectively and efficiently very easy for me, so I highly recommend it. For reference, a very prominent streamer Daequan uses a similar mouse by Redragon and has given the same advice.

I also have the weapon buttons bound to the 1,2,3,4,5,6 buttons on the mouse.

u/elsjpq · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Looking for a 12-button mouse without the wide ring finger rest

I've got the UtechSmart Venus for the 12 side buttons, but it's giving me horrible hand strain. The body is too wide because the ring finger rest on the right makes it difficult to pickup the mouse to reposition and makes my hand cramp up. I've been using it for a while and I just can't adapt to this shape at all. I'm very much used to the traditional mouse shape where the sides curve inwards or are at least flat so I can pickup the mouse between thumb and ring finger, but the finger rest makes that impossible so I'm straining my pinky instead.

Are there any programmable 12 button mice without this kind of wide body? All the ones I've seen have the ring finger rest, making it too wide for my hands.

u/Aidz24 · 1 pointr/classicwow

I bought the UtechSmart Venus about 6(5?) years ago on a whim because it had overnight delivery for free from saturday night to sunday morning, so I went ahead and snagged it. I always figured I could just return it if I hated it.

So far, this is the absolute best mouse I have ever used. The only two complaints I have about it are, the RGB is very lackluster. The mouse wheel can only change with 5 preset colors while the rest of the mouse is more or less true RGB, its weird. That, and the middle mouse button is a tad stiff to click. Besides that, this mouse is absolutely amazing, and the drivers have never ONCE Failed on me. Not something I can say about literally any other brand (corsair, logitech, razer, the list goes on).


u/PhoenixKA · 1 pointr/classicwow

I have a UtechSmart Venus which is has been pretty solid and laster longer by itself than two Razer Nagas that I went through and for half the price.

u/NathanScott94 · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

I've had This one for a couple of years now and like it a lot. I'm no pro gamer but I think it gets the job done really well and is RGB (excluding the red DPI indicators). Also, ignore the "sale" it's pretty much always around this price typically 38 dollars or so.

u/s7ill8orn · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I wouldn't say that there's a very noticeable difference in that amount but I recommend this mouse it's probably the best gaming mouse for the price

UtechSmart Venus 16400 DPI High Precision Laser MMO Gaming Mouse

u/crankydba · 1 pointr/TibiaMMO

I use 6 of the side buttons of my mouse

12 if you count the assigned to ctrl

mana | <area rune>

vita | exori <element>

exura | SD


utamo vita | gran hur

<element> bomb (on self) | gran vis lux

ue | vis hur

walk with left hand , pinky to ctrl|shift

Have this mouse

can never go back from this :P

u/Hawlingz · 1 pointr/wow

This is a much cheaper alternative, and I personally use this. It works well.

You need to be sure that your friend doesn't already have gaming mouse though.

u/Snichy · 1 pointr/WowUI

The new Nagas button4 and button5 are now under the scroll wheel, which makes access to them really uncomfortable for me personally so I bought a Utechsmart Venus mouse instead and whilst it took a few weeks getting used to it (after 5 years of playing with a Naga), I'm really impressed.

u/UltimateSky · 1 pointr/MouseReview

This is the mouse I'm currently using, it's just a random mouse I found on amazon a couple years ago. I'm not super knowledgeable on mice so I dunno what fits are better haha

u/LegalWrights · 1 pointr/buildapc

This is my absolute favorite I've ever had.

Nice and cheap, numeric buttons on the side are a must for me so this pleased me immensely, and of course the packaged software for RGB control and sensitivity control is great, as well as the sensitivity changing buttons near the scroll wheel. And if that's not enough, you can open it up and add (or remove) some of the packaged in weights if you like your mouse a little heavier or lighter. Piece of beauty, this one is.

u/sealancer2003 · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

yeah, even I saw that in the morning by the time I come to the office its dead.
very bad on amazons part to cut it short after advertising it.

alternate is utechsmart venus mouse for $39 for prime members.

u/Framp_The_Champ · 1 pointr/buildapc

A little while ago, I went looking for a cool mouse that wasn't too expensive.

While it's hard to call a 40 dollar mouse cheap, this guy fit the bill.

Never heard of the company before I saw it, supposedly they're Chinese. Wherever they're from, they're pretty decent.

It's comfortable.

It has a ridiculous amount of buttons. About half of the 12 buttons on the side are pretty easy to get to without really trying. Luckily, they're also surprisingly large, so once you get used to the mouse, it's easy not to missclick.

The software that comes with it is probably one of my favourite parts. The mouse is hugely customizable, and the software makes is particularly easy. It even comes with scripts for things like multiple key press macros, or the windows "show desktop" button.

If you're wondering, yeah the lights do change colours, you can use a palette in the software to change the colours at will. I've also got a button on the bottom you can press to change profiles, one of which you can set to turn the LEDs off.

u/SnifflingDarK · 1 pointr/gaming
u/andrzejellis · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

So my trusty Razer Naga is on its last legs, after 6 years of dedicated service to the cause. I've been looking at replacement mice, and I realize that I absolutely need the side number grid. At this point, I can't remember how to play World of Warcraft without it.

My question is: Should I just dive into another Razer Naga? Has Logitech made a similar mouse? Is there a cheaper alternative I should look at?

Edit: I'm seeing this mouse on Amazon for about $40 right now, normally priced at $100. The reviews seem solid - has anybody had experience with Utech?

Edit 2: !check

u/plexguy · 1 pointr/techsupport
u/akahyped · 1 pointr/battlestations

It's the most impressive mouse I've ever seen for <$30 honestly. Profiles/macros/rgb/removable weights/RGB.. It been going strong for over 5 years with raging of all sorts. I'm considering buying another just to keep in the closet in case the one day this one dies..


Funny I just checked Amazon and it's$10 more expensive than what it was half a decade ago... Still worth it IMHO

u/coltonf93 · 1 pointr/masterhacker
u/Sontaran_Strax · 1 pointr/Guildwars2

Here is what I have and I cannot stress enough how much better the game was after switching to it.

u/UprightEddy · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

> utechsmart Venus

Hm. It's actually $37 on Amazon right now. Looks like a solid mouse too.

u/MMOJumper · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

That is the UtechSmart Venus. Pretty great mouse considering the ~$30 price tag.

u/gr3yh47 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

this UtechSmart Venus is an absolute BEAST.

5 programmable profiles that can be cycled with a button on the bottom of the mouse. 5 dpi levels per profile that you can specifically set what each level is from 50-16000 dpi

you change dpi levels with convenient buttons under the scroll wheel

there are 12 buttons by the thumb that are completely programmable for anything from a single keyboard key to a macro. extra button on top by the left click makes a nice reload or secondary fire button.

for $40 there's nothing that even comes close.

u/ceol_ · 1 pointr/macgaming

I use the Razer Naga 2014. The mechanical side buttons feel really nice to use. Razer's "Synapse" software works decently well with Mac, as you can bind any button to a multitude of functions. The only issue I've run into is that the OS-level mouse tracking seems to reset to 0 on reboot. Not a huge issue. I would definitely purchase this mouse again if mine were to ever go up (had it for about 11 months now with no issues.)

The Logitech G600 has decent reviews, although I didn't go with it because a) the side buttons are squishy, and b) the software only works in Windows, so if you want to rebind keys to something else, you're out of luck.

A cheaper option is the Redragon Perdition, which is a newer "MMO mouse." I couldn't verify, but I don't believe this one has any Mac software either. However, the buttons are still just numeric keys, so if you don't need anything crazy, it should be fine. You can also store the button profiles on the device, so if you have a Windows install, you can apply it there then use it in OS X.

There's also the UtechSmart Venus. Not bad reviews; fairly new; cheap. Like the two previous mice, I don't believe it has any Mac software, but the extra buttons will still function.

u/smithenheimer · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I picked up the utechsmart Venus a few months ago, and I'm really happy I upgraded. I was using a wireless laptop mouse for 5 years before, it makes a huge difference in comfort. And programmable buttons can be really nice in games with heavy keybinds

u/Melonwater4 · 1 pointr/ffxiv

I highly highly hiiiiiighly recommend this gaming mouse

You don't know no $100 Razer gaming mouse, Utech is high quality and Amazon's number 1 choice of gaming mouse. Costs so little and been using it for 2 years now, still going strong.

u/oxin8 · 1 pointr/CODZombies

Mouse movement can be erratic with zombies on the screen due to aim assist. Up to 180 degree(or more?) spin when just moving to target a zombie next to another zombie(not that 2 zombies next to each other causes it, just illustrating how little I'm intending to move the mouse when it happen). The last straw was when I was running away from a train and I ended up doing a 180 and running back into them. Been using a controller since because the mouse screw me over without fail. Never had an issue with the mouse prior and it still works for normal computer use.

Here a video of me trying to replicate it in spawn. You can kinda see it throughout but the part when I aim straight up in the air is due the bug. video link

This is the mouse I'm using. I have it set to 2050 DPI. Polling rate is set at 500HZ. I haven't tried adjusting those to see if the issue goes away. mouse link

I created a post to see if anyone else had the issue and so far one person said their friend is experiencing it. post link

u/IOnceWasLegend · 1 pointr/wow

I bought the UtechSmart Venus last year on sale for ~$20 and I've been extremely happy with it:

u/Dante_D · 1 pointr/ffxiv

Personally i'd reccomend the Utechsmart venus if you don't have as much money to spend.

u/ThisVersionOfMyself · 1 pointr/swtor
u/LisaaRS · 1 pointr/runescape

I have a UTechSmart Venus and absolutely love it.


  • Easy to change DPI

  • Higher DPI than anything else I could find

  • Re-programmable side buttons numbered 1 to 12. By default they act as a numberpad if you don't set a macro to them (bots are bad, don't use them for botting)

  • Every single button can be reprogrammed!!!

  • Easy to use software

  • 5 different "profiles" you can set and switch to.

  • Small "burst-fire" (triple left-click) button to the left of the left-click

  • Can set the LEDs to literally any color

  • Adjustable centerweights


  • Might be annoying for small, Donald Trump-like hands

  • Due to its large size it may not comfortable fit small mousepads.

  • Wired only, no wireless mode available.

    If you decide to get it, I recommend setting one of the sidekeys to switch profiles for quick access, and to set a different LED color for each profile. I'm available to answer any questions you got =)
u/siocodex · 1 pointr/buildapc

UtechSmart Venus 16400 DPI High Precision Laser MMO Gaming Mouse [ IGN's PICK]

It’s customizable

u/Oldman_Communist · 1 pointr/Eve

one of them things

cheep and i like it as a replacement for my nag

u/destrange · 1 pointr/Gaming_Gear

If you have money to spend I would suggest Razer Naga as was already mentioned, but if you're looking for a budget mouse check out UtechSmart. Link to: amazon

u/havoot · 1 pointr/kohi
u/Daenerys_Ceridwen · 1 pointr/Guildwars2

The MMO Mouse (twelve on the side) has:

  • Middle = F1
  • Special = double-click

  1. F2
  2. F3
  3. F4
  4. CTRL+T (Call Target)
  5. Swap layout (I have five profiles)
  6. W (Take a target)
  7. 7 (About face)
  8. 8 (Stow/Draw Weapon)
  9. 9 (F5)
  10. Mouse 4 (Heal)
  11. T (Interact)
  12. Mouse 5 (Elite)

    All the F buttons are hit with the tip of my thumbnail, which makes it easy to play Elementalist and Engineer. It also makes it easy to hit the Chronomancer Continuum Split button and then drag my thumb along the line of F skills to burst people with condi's in WvW :3

    When I get the mounts going, I will make them CTRL+F1-F4 because I can hold CTRL easily whilst moving since it is right at the corner of my hand.

    I use for reference. It mostly fits me... lower half of my thumb can hit 7-12 and upper half for the others. The buttons are all wide enough that I do not double-hit them.

    P.S. Yes, I made my own keyboard layout so movement keys look funny. That side of the keyboard is laid out with:
u/TToasterrr · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Check out the UTechSmart Venus Gaming Mouse. I've have it for a while and I love it!

u/LuckyLich · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I have and love this remote

Gaming Mouse, UtechSmart Venus 16400 DPI High Precision Laser MMO Gaming Mouse [ IGN's PICK]

u/kju · 1 pointr/TibiaMMO

i bought a cheaper one, from utechsmart

i've never used a naga so i can't compare it to that, but it's been pretty great for me. after about 2 years the left click got a little sensitive and would sometimes click 2-3 times in quick succession. it's about 4 years old now and that's the only problem that i've had and i dont think it's a big enough problem to stop using it. i also wrote a quick ahk script to fix the problem if i ever notice it annoying me, ill include it t the end of the post if anyone has a similar problem or something. it's more of an annoyance when im on reddit than when im gaming but i thought i should mention it

other than that it comes with it's own software, i think the keys are default set to 1-12 without the software, with it you can set it to whatever you want, i haven't had any problems with the software. it has a macro function also, which i've never used

If (A_TimeSincePriorHotkey < 150)
Send {MButton Down}
KeyWait, MButton
Send {MButton Up}

all it really does is refuse mouse clicks in the 150ms after you click, if you find yourself clicking faster than seven times in a second you can change 150 to 100 or whatever you want

u/kornykory · 1 pointr/wow
u/R1kman · 1 pointr/WildStar

Slight sidetrack. I was looking at getting the G600 as well, had the Naga before but didn't like it. Came across the UtechSmart Venus MMO Gaming mouse whilst searching, reviews look pretty good. Anyone tried it, if so, what do you think?

u/Rebeleleven · 1 pointr/AskBattlestations
u/OmertaFPS · 1 pointr/pcgaming

I got this one when my third Naga I owned died and it's held up for two years now. Took some getting used to since it's a bit wider and has a thumb shelf but I like it for the price.

u/sparrowcap · 1 pointr/FortNiteBR
u/Moose_Hole · 1 pointr/OutreachHPG

I use this one.

It has plenty of extra buttons for whatever you want. I use the normal buttons for group 1 and 2, the extra left button for alpha, buttons 1,2,3 for more firing groups, and I put the other side buttons into consumables.

It also has nice programmable DPI settings. I set them up like this:
Level 0: Normal X, Normal Y.
Level 1: Maximum X, Normal Y (good for shielding with arms).
Level 2-5: Disabled.

u/Insaniaksin · 1 pointr/buildapc

Best mouse i've ever had

I actually have 3 of them. 1 for my wife, 1 at work and 1 at home.

u/Deaddears · 1 pointr/ffxiv

Thanks for the suggestion
This is the mouse I ordered a few days ago

u/Evning · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Would you mind going with off brands?

I have a claw grip which makes the logitech ungrippable

Roccat Nyth is also a reputable brand with keypads.

But if you are willing to try off brands, there is this thing by havit

And there is also one by utech

And another by red dragon

I got my naga when they had the changeble side plates. I use the smallest one but the ledge is still too big for me to grip by my fingertips in claw comfortably.

I am expecting it to crap out in the near future and i dont really like that new naga design.
I suspect roccat's nyth will be just as uncomfortable for me as the razer naga.

I am looking at trying out the havit. I am glad more companies are daring to try to make mice with a keypad on the side.

u/abecedarian_radish · 1 pointr/wow

Surprised nobody's mentioned the UtechSmart Venus mouse. It's inexpensive, better for larger hands and very well-made. 12-button grid on the side, programmable colors, all the good stuff.

u/drich_34 · 1 pointr/wow

I just bought a Utech Venus reviews look good so I am gonna give it a try. I posted the link if you want to take a look at it.

u/TheHebrewHammer_ · 1 pointr/wow

I can't help with the keybindings but can you afford around $30? These are good and I just bought one to replace my naga.

u/SodoMojo91 · 1 pointr/wow

After using the Naga for a few years I switched to this gem. Pretty much the same thing but more comfortable imo. The side buttons have a better feel to them, and you can customize colors and buttons. Plus it's on sale for 33.99 USD. Not sure what it would be in euros.

u/_ekopy_ · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

The Corsair Scimitar is decent from what I hear. You either like it or you don't. I've tried the Corsair M95 and ended up not liking it. A bit heavy and the software sucked. Utech puts out one that is supposedly pretty good for cheap.

u/Markes777 · 1 pointr/TibiaMMO

First of all, if u want to save cash. Don't marry.

Second, I'm using this one

u/GSlayerBrian · 1 pointr/MechanicalKeyboards

UtechSmart Venus.

The build quality is excellent. Unfortunately the thumb grid isn't quite as comfortable as the Razer Naga was. (These buttons are a little harder to push, and they feel a little smaller and/or closer together, so it's more difficult to distinguish one button from another.)

u/VortexZeR0 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I'm not sure where to post this, but I'm thinking about painting the red parts on my mouse white, any tips or paint suggestions?

u/thed3al · 1 pointr/pcgaming

14k DPI? Please...16400 DPI is where it's at


u/BaroquenRecord · 1 pointr/MechanicalKeyboards

Here are the two that I have on my list right now. Both pretty good and not too pricey!

u/KoboldCoterie · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I've been using this for about a year now, had zero problems with it. Feels great in the hand, buttons are responsive (and programmable via their app), light colors are adjustable, it has a nice weight to it. Can't attest to its ability to last for years, but it's cheap and very good in my experience thus far.

u/RyanGBaker · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I have a Redragon Mammoth which is a pretty good MMO mouse for the price. It's pretty large.

u/kainxavier · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

Unless you're only interested in something via paypal, you should just grab this on the ultra-cheap:

For the price... it's flipping amazing. Same omron switches as the $80 Logitech (overpriced) mice.

u/stumpysharcat · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

I don't like their keyboards in general only because they are usually Outemu blue switches which about the loudest possible, but the Mammoth mouse is superb for palm grip/large hands. I could say more but the reviews on Amazon should cover everything.

10% off coupon applies = $22.50

u/RollWave_ · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

i'd recommend a Redragon brand mouse. Above is a link to one. There are other versions that compete with the Naga with thumb buttons etc.

The main difference is the palm texture. Most mice are smooth and plastic-y or smooth and rubbery.

Redragon mice are textured on top. Sort of like that black bumpy pads they put on stairs in warehouses to make it so they dont get slippery when wet. But fine enough so that it is still perfectly comfortable in your hands.

Benefits - doesnt get slippery or feel gross if you sweat. Also, doesn't buildup that disgusting gunk over time that needs to get scraped off.

u/KSparty · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

my suggestion for a good mouse that is very well priced is the REDDRAGON MAMMOTH and REDDRAGON products in general. They aren't "professional" grade, but they match the performance, and have held up to rigorous gaming use.

Mouse I use:

Keyboard (I don't personally own this as it was not available when I was making my purchases, but I assume it will be as durable as the rest of their products.):

u/derpster4 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/relevant_pet_bug · 1 pointr/buildapc

Yes, thank you. Op this build is a great starter build. I am going to break it down, and post some alternatives or upgrade options.

CPU: the ryzen 2600 is the best price performance cpu on the market right now. It is powering a ton of midrange and even low high end gaming pcs. GET THIS.

MOBO. a b450 is a good entry level mobo and will work with 2000 series cpus without a bios update.

Ram. Team Vulcan works great with Ryzen. a lot of budget ram does not. If you can spare the extra cash, it is much cheaper in the long run to go with 16GB of the same RAM for $125 if you can spare the extra 45.

An HDD. This is fine. Personally, I would find a way to spend the extra money and go with an 500 GB SSD like this, or this. I would then buy an HDD later. If those SSDs take this build over 700 which appears to be your price limit, then feel free to go HDD.

When it comes to PSUs I don't like this one from above, nor do I like Thermaltake smart. The one thing you should never cheap out on is the PSU, because if a bad PSU fails it can take down your whole system. The above model is described as a safety hazard by review sites, and the Thermaltake 500w smart is not recommended for the same reason. I would get this one. For 10 bucks more you get a classic excellent PSU. While this PSU doesn't have modern PSU features, this is a very solid PSU from a name brand. However, if you want a legit modern PSU then this one would be great, if you can spare the 23 extra bucks.

Finally, the Keyboard and mouse are fine. I got platinum god in the original binding of isaac on a cheapo keyboard combo like this. However, If you want some legit budget products check out the company red dragon. The red dragon kumara k552 is a well reviewed entry level mechanical keyboard, and the red dragon m801 mammoth mouse is excellent. Note that despite the name, the red dragon mammoth is actually great for small handed/medium handed people, as a short 5'6" dude with small hands I love my mammoth, it's the best mouse I ever used.

Here is a build with my suggestions for cost comparison purposes, it will be over your budget of 700 but it is a legit core gaming pc. Here is something to consider:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor | $165.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $64.99 @ B&H
Memory | Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $124.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda Compute 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $73.73 @ Amazon
Video Card | PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8GB Video Card | $219.99 @ Amazon
Case | DIYPC - P48-W ATX Mid Tower Case | $29.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $51.65 @ Newegg
Monitor | Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor | $99.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard | Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard | $29.99 @ Amazon
Mouse | Redragon - Mammoth Wired Laser Mouse | $26.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $888.19
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-30 03:31 EDT-0400 |

The biggest change is that I added an RX 580 which is a 1080 60 FPS beast which should allow 60 FPS at 1080 on high or ultra for the next 2 years at least in modern Triple AAA games.

I also added a 1 MS gaming monitor. This monitor is totally unnecessary for small time indies like don't starve, however, once you get a gaming pc, you might want to play some esports titles like fortnite and a 1 ms monitor will be nice for that.

u/WackyModder84 · 1 pointr/gamingpc

What, no Redragon Mammoth? I call bullshit.

u/BabyGirl_TAG · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I would definitely swing an SSD. At this price range, it would be silly not to have an SSD. (Maybe think about taking money from budget of mouse/windows/RGB RAM/cooler already comes with this CPU).

In my opinion the MSI B450 Tomohawk Mobo is very good in this series. Running it currently myself.

Great mouse under $30:

u/Candra_Moon · 1 pointr/Guildwars2

Get a gaming mouse with at least 3 easy to use buttons for the thumb. It makes your life 500x easier for kit swapping. I personally use the Redragon M801 Mammoth, but something like the Logitech G602 would also work rather well.

Also take the time to learn every skill in those kits and how they can be used. Condi engineer is very powerful in open world and fractals if you can play it right.

u/desktop_version_bot · 1 pointr/MouseReview
u/TheDon_Perignon · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Looking For: Claw Grip, at least 4000 DPI, 5+ buttons (preferably right thumb)

Budget: $50

Handedness: Right

Currently Using: Logitech M705 (perfect shape and buttons but not a gaming mouse, way low DPI and polling rate)

Tried: Redragon Mammoth


I got this awesome Redragon Mammoth for Christmas. For 30 bucks, it's a steal with plenty of buttons and as much as 16400 DPI.

I've never had a gaming mouse before but find 4000 DPI both intuitive and comfortable to use. I could probably move it higher as I acclimate so I'd like to be able to go higher but at this point not a necessity.

The only issue is I use a Claw grip and this is clearly designed for Palm. Over long play sessions it causes my thumb to feel pain/strain since I need to bend it unnaturally to reach the side buttons.

I have to return it, it's causing me physical pain, but I don't know what to replace it with.

EDIT: Some more detail. The M705 has three side buttons (one is actuated by squeezing near the base) and the scroll wheel support left/right tilt. I find the three thumb buttons and the tilt to be quite perfect.

TLDR: I want an M705 with 4000+ DPI and 1000 MHz polling rate.

EDIT2: Based on how active this sub is, I think I just waited too long to post in this thread. Making this it's own thread =)

u/Super9091 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

just got on my pc did some looking how about

it has red bits but it technicaly has rgb <added in edit

u/Deoxysprime · 1 pointr/buildapc

Right now I have a Redragon Perdition and it works well for me. I think I have pretty big hands but it feels super comfortable and the plastic doesn't feel cheap at all. I'm very fond of this brand after moving on from Razer mice. My Razer mice really only ever lasted me about 6 months but this mouse has lasted me 2 years for about half of the price.

A buddy of mine tried the Redragon Mammoth because he didn't want buttons on the side and he said it's a great mouse for the price and it looks to be about the same size.

I didn't trust this brand at first since their stuff came from China but I've been pleasantly surprised. Good build quality, acceptable software, and tons of features for this price point.

u/KillerTuxedo · 1 pointr/buildapc

I've got a gaming PC and I mostly use an XBOX One controller. I'm about to get a gaming laptop (really it's mostly for school and work, but I will be gaming on the go quite a bit), and I hate track pads. So I decided instead of buying some cheap-o general purpose wireless mouse, I'd buy some cheap-o gaming intended mouse. I have not yet decided if I should go wired or wireless.

I'm basically looking for cheap, pretty good, and black or black/red to match the laptop, all without looking like a baby Transformer. Looking in the <$30 range. I'll upgrade to a $50+ later if I feel like I get a lot of use out of it.

Here's what I've narrowed my options down to:

u/mtrai · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I have the G502 and just bought this one for my partners build and well I stole it and gave him my g502. He does not game so it really does matter and usually gets my hand me downs. The g502 is nice with little amount of buttons getting in the way.

I play MMOs and it do not want a ton of buttons as I am old school and use my keyboard too, it works actually better for me.

A plus is then you can get you a nice maousepad if you need which is also a must.

u/lambui123 · 1 pointr/DotA2
u/the_fathead44 · 1 pointr/Planetside

I have the Redragon Mammoth, and I highly recommend it for people looking to spend less than $30 on a mouse.

The mouse is perfect for wider hands, it has 5 different profiles you can switch between, and you can set up 5 or 6 preset DPI settings for as well as different keybindings for each profile... DPI goes up to 16,400, though I'll probably never use it that high. The mouse has a "three click macro button" on the upper left hand side of the left mouse button, and it has three thumb buttons.

I've had this mouse for almost a year now and it's easily surpassed my expectations. I'll never go back to an expensive Razer or Logitech mouse.

u/cjpack · 1 pointr/ffxiv

So like the problem is moving to do mechanics and constantly be doing my rotations like second nature. So the tip about using mouse for movement to free up my left hand sounds like a good one because doing the whole keyboard moving and trying to click the numbers for moves is hard. So right now I'm using my left hand for moving and right hand mouse hand for moves so maybe that's the problem? I'm using a red dragon mouse cheap but I bought it a while ago and it's been fine:

u/rshalek · 1 pointr/Overwatch

Yeah, turning down mouse sensitivity is hugely beneficial. I have a mouse that lets you do it on the fly (a lot of gaming oriented mice do this) and its essential. I turn it down two notches when I play as Ana.

This is the mouse I use if anyone is interested - its less than 30 bucks and works and feels as good as as a $100 dollar Razer mouse in my experience.

u/TheSonicDoctor · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

I found this gaming mouse shopping today, would this work out?

u/Kryeiszkhazek · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

My little brother has a Redragon Mammoth and he loves it. A bit short for me but it has a nice weight to it. Redragon has another one called the Perdition that's pretty highly rated as well.

Anker has some good offerings in your price range as well

u/zodiacsoldier · 1 pointr/ffxiv

I find it hard to play on just keyboard and mouse due to all the buttons you need.

I really like using one of those MMORPG mouses (pretty much mouses with a numpad on the side), takes some time to get use to, but are great once you adjusted to them.

There are alot of them, but here are the link for the more popular ones (I'm using the G600 atm)

Logitech G600

Corsair Schimitar

Razer Naga Chroma

Redragon M901 Perdition

I also use a Logitech G13 Gamepad

u/terrafirma91 · 1 pointr/wow
u/scrrow · 1 pointr/buildapc

I have this Redragon. For the price its a pretty great mouse, no complaints, comes with rgb, dpi, weight, and macro key customization and just an overall good mouse IMO.

u/GobbyBoss · 1 pointr/osugame

Off topic from the post, I've seen a bunch of mouse vs tablet debate, what are the pros and cons of both? (I use this and zx)

u/unicornica · 1 pointr/wow

I loved my Razer Nagas. I went through four. I realized I was really displeased with them only lasting about a year. Two years ago I found a chinese off-brand called Redragon and I love it. The Naga copy is called "Perdition" (amazon link)


Double lifespan and still going compared to any of my Nagas.

Customization of the weight via a few weighted balls you can open up and remove.

The software! You can save profiles with different DPIs, that you can then save up to 5 settings you can rotate through by clicking a button on the mouse. You can then assign any RGB color you want to each setting, per profile. Super useful if you use a lot of different software or games on your computer and you're peculiar about the sensitivity.

Software screenshots: 1 , 2 , 3


The buttons aren't flat like a naga, they're sort of beveled like \=\ /=/ \=\ /=/ ... if that makes sense.

Small hands like mine might struggle to click as easy as possible. The more sensitive bits are further down than the naga so it requires a little more effort to press. I retrained myself to have my fingers a bit further down and I don't notice it anymore, but it was annoying at first.

It seems to only come in red/white or red/black, which is kind of lame since you can do any RGB colors for the RBGs, but it'll always have the permanent red.

u/fuselighter · 1 pointr/wow

This is a great MMO mouse. I used to only use Nagas (from Wrath up to the start of Legion) but I got tired of them breaking on me or the buttons sticking all the time. I've been using this for a year so far and it's been AMAZING. Plus you can't beat that price!

u/redditis_shit · 1 pointr/wow

replaced my 2012 naga with

because it has the 1 button next to left click which i couldnt find anywhere else

u/imaginarygary · 1 pointr/elderscrollsonline

My specialty, cheap gaming peripherals!

Here are some of my recommendations:

E-3lue Mazer II wireless

Cheap but good Anker mouse

Cheaper alternative to the Razer Naga

For higher range mice, in the 50-100$ range, I'd suggest either sticking with Logitech or Razer. I personally use a Logitech G9X mouse, considered by a lot of people (myself included) to be THE BEST gaming mouse ever made, however it only has 5 buttons and currently costs over 180$.

However, this is one that I'm eyeballing pretty hard, since it has a ton of buttons and is wireless, thus easier to take with me travelling.

My biggest suggestion, however, is to find a mouse that has interchangeable weights. I know it sounds like a silly gimmick, but by having different weights you can fine-tune your mouse to different playstyles and games. A heavier mouse allows for more precision (think long range sniper shots), whereas a lighter mouse allows for better reaction time. Once you use a weighted mouse it's very hard to go back.

u/lifeisflimsy · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Personally, I have this mouse, and it is surprisingly fucking phenomenal. Some people might not like the look of it, but I think it's nice and, as the reviews show, the build quality does not feel cheap at all.

u/flying_mechanic · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I use one of these, it works very well and the software side is surprisingly good

Redragon M901 PERDITION 16400 DPI High-Precision Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse (Black)

u/BudgetSetHelp · 1 pointr/buildapcforme

All i can do is list the peripherals

Here are some options that match your Description:

Keyboards: Redragon K502 price: $24

Keyboards: AUKEY Mechanical price: $28

Headphones: TRN V80 price: $25

Headphones: VJJB K4 K4S price: $25

Headphones: CCA C10 price: $25

Headphones: Symphonized XTC 2.0 price: $26

Mousepads: VicTsing Extended price: $15

Mousepads: BUANIIH Pad price: $14

Mousepads: iLeadon MousePad price: $14

Mousepads: AliBli Large price: $17

Mousepads: Razer Sphex V2 price: $19

Mouse: Perixx Perimice-718R price: $25

Mouse: Motospeed V60 price: $26

Mouse: Corsair M55 RGB price: $28

Mouse: Redragon M901 price: $30

Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro price: $30

if you choose one from each category the cost will be around a $100

You have $600 left to spend on a pc.

Source: BudgetSet

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^(This project is purely for help, and there is no way for us to profit from it)

u/Zimmmmmmmm · 1 pointr/SteamController

Can't do that if I want them to stay analogous to the MMO mouse

u/LOL_Wut_Axel · 1 pointr/buildapc

Change the processor for an i3-4130. Faster and only a few bucks more at $120, not to mention you have an upgrade path to a Core i5/i7 if you want later. Or, if you can, budget get an i5-4590 and you get a quad-core.

With that obviously comes a change of motherboard, and the best one for the price is the MSI B85-G41. It costs $70.

Changing that TN panel monitor for an IPS model only costs $5 more and gets you a screen that looks a lot more elegant, has much thinner bezels and because it's IPS has much better viewing angles, better contrast ratio, and better color reproduction. The monitor is something you use every single time you use the computer, so don't skimp on it.

Corsair AF series fans are very good, there's no denying that, but honestly there's quite a good amount of fans that are better for the money. But if you MUST have purple LEDs, they're okay. For something functional, Rosewill Hyperborea 140mm will push a lot more air (90CFM vs 57CFM) and they're also 4-pin PWM and don't use cheap sleeve bearings so while not silent they are relatively quiet (I have them). There's also the 120mm version that pushes the same amount of air. $13 for 140mm, $10 for 120mm. Honestly if you're on a budget I'd say to spend more on stuff that's gonna make your games run better and your PC run cooler, but if you'd rather spend it on making it look flashy that's fine too.

As for the case, there's really no other one that has that combination when it comes to color, but there are better options for the money. If you want a mix of both it looking flashy and having good features there's the Rosewill Patriot for $60. It comes with four blue LED 120mm fans to the two on the Bitfenix, meaning you could also buy two fans instead of four. It also comes with a side panel window if you wanna look at your components.

The graphics card you should definitely change as there's much better options for the money. For example there's the Radeon R9 270 which will give you performance within 10% of the GTX 760 for only $160 and will stomp on the 750 Ti, meaning on most demanding games you can run at High settings instead of Medium.

The keyboard you should change. You can get the Monoprice Cherry MX Blue for $51 on sale, saving you $40.

As for the mouse, I know it's a great mouse, but there are also cheaper options that will give you the same options. Not from Logitech themselves, though, obviously. This one has 4.5/5 reviews on Amazon, has weights, on-the-fly DPI buttons, and 12 macro buttons. Only costs $37 too.

As for RAM, you can pick up Patriot 2x4GB DDR3-1600 for $73 at Newegg and that will do the trick nicely.

Any questions let me know.

u/Bornity · 1 pointr/cad

I use a Red Dragon Perdition Gaming mouse. It has 5 programmable profiles which I have configured for different programs (Inventor, Rhino, Solidworks, Illustrator, CorelDraw). I have the 12 button programmed to switch profiles and each profile can have a different color from the internal LEDs (Helps tell which profile I'm in)

I also have a Logitech G13 Gamepad. It has awesome software which automatically switches profiles based on which program is active. It has 3 quick swap buttons to completely change the layouts in each program, 25 keys per layout. I've programmed keys/macros for all my commonly used tools.

I still have a regular keyboard. Ctrl+Z/Ctrl+Shit+Z (Undo/Redo) is too natural to me, plus other basic commands but I can quickly jump over to the G13 for commands that would require 2 hands on the keyboard and keep my right hand on the mouse.

I have a Waccom Bamboo pen tablet and I've found that touch is in as accurate as a mouse for 3D manipulation. With LClick+Drag, RClick+Drag, MiddleMouseButton+Drag, LRClick+Drag & Scroll Wheel and control all your major 3D view manipulations. A touch pad requires a second hand button press to achieve the same results. Believe me I've tried and mouse + keyboard + gamepad beats the socks off of anything I've found. It's great never having to click drop down menus.

Add in AutoHotKey to run macros/automate and you can model/draft w/o ever looking from the screen.

I'd be interested to hear other people's setups.

u/ataraxic89 · 1 pointr/Games

Compared to a regular mouse, I can never go back. It makes every single game more playable for me. I dont even use it for MMOs. I hate ever having to move my left hand in FPS games to hit the higher numbers.

I use it for Dota 2 and I think it gives me an advantage over some of the more ridiculous layouts ive seen people use.

I see everyone here talking about the naga vs the G600 but I dont use either.

I use the perdition red dragon. Its a Chinese made alternative. 12 buttons on the side, sensitivity controls on top, and an extra button to the left of the left click configured for triple left click macro but can be changed.

Ive had it for at least 3 years and it works fine. Sometimes it gets a little weird about tracking but I think thats just dust on the laser. It also took me a while to get used to how little pressure you need to click with it. For the first month I was constantly clicking on accident. But this is a user error thing.

Oh, and did I mention its like 35 dollars on amazon? I already bought a second one just incase this one dies.

u/AveryFenix · 1 pointr/ffxiv

I recommend this mouse instead. It's cheaper and works just as well. I've had mine for 2 years now, still going strong. I haven't had a single problem with it. The buttons are slanted so you can easily tell where your thumb is without looking. It also has weights in the bottom that you can adjust to make the mouse feel just the way you want it. I took all the weights out and it's very light. The cord is braided to stop it from doing that weird curling thing cords like to do, that's my favorite part. No mandatory software unless you want to mess around with the lighting effects or change the button next to the left mouse button to another bind. You can change the mouse sensitivity easily just pressing up or down on the mouse, there are about 6 presets.

u/theDumb12 · 1 pointr/PcMasterRaceBuilds

Here's my suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor | $144.98 @ DirectCanada
Motherboard | ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $39.98 @ NCIX
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $44.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $61.94 @ Vuugo
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon RX 470 4GB NITRO+ Video Card | $284.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case | Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $29.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply | EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $55.37 @ DirectCanada
Monitor | Acer G226HQLBbd 21.5" 60Hz Monitor | $109.99 @ NCIX
Keyboard | Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard | $12.98 @ NCIX
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $810.21
| Mail-in rebates | -$25.00
| Total | $785.21
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 13:32 EDT-0400 |

I never realized how weak the Canadian dollar is, I was really surprised at how much less it gets you. This is based on the "Crusher" build from the /r/pcmasterrace wiki, plus a keyboard and monitor. I don't have any direct experience with any of these parts besides the monitor, which I got for my girlfriend's computer build (and it's a great monitor at that price)

If you're looking to spend more, the first places to do it are

  1. Better motherboard
  2. Better keyboard
  3. Better processor

    Now for other recommendations. I stream on twitch as well, (mostly World of Tanks and other games), and I mostly use a Logitech G430 as my headphones/mic. If you're looking for a new mouse, Redragon makes really great mice at really good prices, I use a Redragon Perdition as my primary mouse for gaming, a Redragon Nemeanlion at work, and a Redragon Centrophorus for my secondary computer (used as a server and for doing distributed computing). For a webcam, I use a Logitech C920
u/Adiel-the-Blue · 1 pointr/ffxiv

I used to have the razer naga mouse, wasn't bad but I had some issues with it pretty soon, double click, wheel pushing stopped working, and I read this happens pretty often, so once it stopped working completely I got this cheap one

While it does feel and look a little cheap, I'm super happy with it, had it for like a year now, no issue whatsoever. A very pleasant and unexpected surprise.

u/Dresta · 1 pointr/thedivision

I've been using this cheap ass mouse for 3 years now, still works great:

u/Todesfaelle · 1 pointr/bapcsalescanada

Redragon Perdition is pretty great.

Not the most well known brand but they provide quality products. It'll also show listings of mice in the same price range with the same features which are good as well such as the HAVIT and Venus.

u/CatManDontDo · 1 pointr/swtor

I had a Naga for years and it finally just gave out. Considered buying a new one but was just a bit out priced. Picked up this one and it is really solid performer.
Redragon M901 PERDITION 16400 DPI High-Precision Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse (Black)

u/mttnry · 1 pointr/PLC

I like using the red dragon perdition Similar to the naga with 12 programable buttons on the side. But its only 35$ and it also has three additional buttons on the top. I use them for del, insert, and one to cycle dpi settings.

Im happy with it, and bonus you can choose the colors that it lights up(or turn them off)

u/Mini_Spoon · 1 pointr/buildapc

I swear by Redragon, my mouse of choice is always the Perdition.

Really solid build and great quality, highly customisable button binds & lighting, and adjustable weight.

u/Tactical_tampons · 1 pointr/elderscrollsonline

That sounds like a pretty great setup overall :) Personally I have this mouse and i use 1-5 for skills and 6 for bar swap.

u/OwlOdyssey · 1 pointr/wow

Haha, thank you! I use both this and this, hence the kinda weird layout. Do you like the blue and gold alliance colours on the bars and chat?

u/fitzjack · 1 pointr/buildapc

I picked up a Redragon Perdition off of amazon for $26 recently. It's a comfortable mouse and the games I play make use of the buttons very well.

u/Wheresmyaccount1121 · 1 pointr/RainbowSixSiege

I had a g502 that I sold to get a Red Dragon Perdition.

Easily the most comfortable mouse I've ever used. I got it for all the buttons on the side and because I used my friends and it was so damn comfy. Its also really inexpensive. I actually don't use the buttons a lot, but I use 1 and 3 for leaning and 4 for push to talk. Also has software to change sensitivity settings, different profiles, lighting (colors and brightness), as well as changing what the side buttons do.

Although I recommend getting the black one. It has a nice gritty/grippy feeling while the white one is, for whatever reason, glossy, smooth, and a bit slippery. I have never seen this mouse recommended, but I love it way more than the g502, or any other mouse I've used.

u/BassNector · 1 pointr/Warframe

Or you could go with this.

Same thing as the G600 but 35 dollars USD. It's also indestructible. I threw it at a wall(don't ask) and it's still good as brand new, somehow.

u/gloworm22 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

RedDragon Perdition -- $35.99 at Amazon

u/Dashdasho · 1 pointr/MouseReview

I currently own Redragon M901 Gaming Mouse Wired, [Programmable] MMO RGB LED Mice, 24000 DPI, Laser High Precision Sensor, Weight Tuning Set, 18 Buttons for Windows PC Games - Black and I'm sick of it, just want better for fps price can be under 100$

u/Arduino87 · 1 pointr/cad

I know I'm late to the thread and this type of mouse isn't specifically related to your question but I wanted to post my mouse because I have made good use of it with CAD and gaming:

12 side buttons is kinda overkill but I just wanted to recommend a mouse that has custom keys because it is super useful.

u/agonyzt · 1 pointr/MMORPG
u/majorfalice · 1 pointr/MMORPG

Also, what mouse which you guys recommend? I am currently looking at this. It's a relatively unknown companies but it has a great price and great reviews. I would love to hear everyones input!

u/montegyro · 1 pointr/ffxiv

I use this

Hot bar 1 is 1-9,0, -,+

Hot bar 2 uses ctrl

Hotbar 3 uses left alt

Targeting self or party member uses shift

Makes everything so much easier.

u/Gaavlan · 1 pointr/runescape

I have this mouse, lots of buttons and way cheaper than other mmo mouses. works great.

u/scrupulousness · 1 pointr/apexlegends

Redragon m901 but I believe the optical sensor is beginning to go bad. Even when not touched the mouse kind of jitters around somewhat and before my own twitches began it was behaving poorly. I've tried cleaning it, and I have a nice mousepad, but no luck.

u/Moritsuma · 1 pointr/wow

And if you're not looking to pay the price of an entirely new game for a mouse. I own a Redragon, fantastic mouse for under 40 bucks. I've never owned a Naga, but as far as I know, it's missing none of the features a Naga has.

u/Wiggledan · 1 pointr/linux

I use a Reddragon Perdition. Super cheap with Amazon Prime atm.

It's programmable in Windows, and the configuration sticks with the mouse. It's plenty sensitive (16400 dpi is pointlessly high), and nice to rest your hand on/use for extended periods of time.

The only things I dislike about are the red colorscheme (because now I don't want any LED colors other than red), and it's not the heaviest mouse, even with the weights in it.

u/Kashna · 1 pointr/buildapc

I've got the Redragon Perdition and love it so far, no problems. It's a lot bigger than the Naga, with just as many buttons. Larger than my old Logitech mouse. For a large handed person who is poor and can't afford the naga but needs all the side buttons, this thing is worth it. Couldn't be happier.

u/Pixelssassin · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/Chibils · 1 pointr/classicwow

Looks like ass, but it gets the job done.

Redragon M901 Gaming Mouse, Wired MMO RGB LED Backlit Computer Mice, 24000 DPI, Perdition, with Weight Tuning Set & 18 Programmable Buttons for Windows PC Gaming (Black)

u/imbeingfriendzoned · 1 pointr/PixelGun

and also this. i have this mouse and it would make 3 catting much easier. can speak for how much a difference it makes for minecraft

u/nathannathan1232 · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

Pretty much a 35$ version of the razer naga. it works well.

u/Vitulus · 1 pointr/wow

This is the mouse I use. It's got plenty of buttons, works well, and for the price I'd say it's great quality.

u/Mack99 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Well that's a bummer, I was just going to order this one based off a recommendation I saw on here and the steep discount. Now I think I'll hold off and see what more people think as I'm sure a lot of these will be popping up as Christmas gifts.

u/psuerkdextre · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

ironically one of the cheaper ones on amazon has the best reviews, so try this. I bought a keyboard from that brand it is still going strong, so I would trust the reviews. Quality looks pretty top notch too.

u/Czcz_ · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

You could try to get something like this. I don't know exactly how much movement you have but getting a mouse with side buttons could help a lot.

u/snaplocket · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

Anyone know how this compares to a Redragon M901 Perdition? They look almost identical. Wondering if the build quality is better on this. I’m on my second M901 and I think the left click is going out (not quite as springy as it used to be) after about a year and a half

u/NotsofastTwitch · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

If you aren't going to have use of your right hand for awhile then maybe consider getting a 12 button mouse like the Redragon Perdition so that you can play a wider variety of games.

Maybe look into the online card games like Hearthstone.

u/Oniketojen · 1 pointr/GameDeals

I've had the original naga for years and I love mine but wear and tear is finally getting to it after so many years. I've been thinking of buying this and having the naga for use with my laptop on the go actually. My friend got this after I showed him it and said he loves it so far.

edit: Spelling.

u/Crazybrass · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

I was actually looking at this mouse. Looks reliable and plenty of number keys for binding. And not overly expensive either.

u/gibb3rs · 1 pointr/GameDeals

I bought this mouse to replace my 4th defective razer naga (my 4th one was my Naga Epic, which Razer support refused to RMA again after RMAing once, I no longer buy Razer)

This mouse SUCKS. It stopped working after a month and it was very awkward to use.

I strongly suggest the Redragon Perdition as an alternative. It's always around $35. Its form factor feels relatively cheap (plastic for most parts) but it has all the bells and whistles, good weight (adjustable too), good feel, sturdy, and the software is great.

u/iiviiozzie · 1 pointr/QuakeChampions

When it comes to key binding I would suggest using this. I will warn you I broke my left mouse button somehow recently after two years ownership, but I super glued it back on and it works just the same. I did also buy a backup just in case. I used to have a Razer Naga, even though these are considering 'MMO' mice I think they are very well suited for these types of FPS's.

u/___Fay___ · 1 pointr/Guildwars2

I use the Redragon M901, it's really good! I wanted a multi-button mouse but I have small hands and most multi-button mouses are massive, this is a perfect fit for me. It's lasted me for two years so far and it's less expensive than Corsair.

u/Hakunamateo · 1 pointr/gadgets

I have this red dragon mouse, in my last move I somehow lost the driver CD.... The company's website is in Chinese and not functioning, Is anyone able to help here? (new to reddit, sorry if this is improper)

u/HolyCringe · 1 pointr/houston
u/Sirc124 · 1 pointr/buildapc

Looking to replace my 2012 razor Naga, I'd prefer to to avoid any other razor products. I love the way to mouse feels but i'm not a fan of the software or the build quality. I'm also not a fan of the newer nagas or i'd most likely grab on of them. I'd really prefer a mouse with at least 6 easy to use side buttons, the typical 12 button mmo style works too though. So far I've tried the Logitech G600 and the Redragon Perdition, however I'm not a fan of their width (I like to have my ring and pinky finger hanging off the mouse, so i'm not sure if this is a palm or claw grip).

Can anyone offer up any mouse suggestions?

u/Karbairusa · 1 pointr/leagueoflegends

Do you keybind from in-game or how do you do it? Mine never resets upon patching. I own a Red Dragon Perdition

u/iCeCoCaCoLa64tv · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Logitech G502 is always a good choice, but if you like MOBAs you might be interested in an MMO mouse. I've been using my Redragon Perdition M901 for years and it's still going strong, and it feels great. Highly recommend if you're interested in such a mouse.

u/nrkatalyst · 1 pointr/elderscrollsonline

I got an mmo mouse. I use 1-5 for skills, set synergy to 6, and ultimate to 7. Let's me put my bar swap on R which is a lot easier for me to hit.

I wouldn't try to use the 7-12 buttons except for something only occasionally needed like an ultimate. Those are hard for me to use.

u/StriderZessei · 1 pointr/ffxiv

I really like the gaming mouse here. it's ergonomic, but not too wide.

u/Captain_Rex_ · 1 pointr/wow

I personally like this one,

I have a Naga but my roommate got the one in the link, I'll be getting that when my Naga dies.

u/Autonomoose · 1 pointr/buildapc

Are you looking for a lot of side programmable buttons? This is prob as good as it gets for that price. If you can swing an extra 20 go for Logitech G600

u/raynman37 · 1 pointr/wow

This one is on sale for $36 and has almost 2000 good reviews. I haven't personally used it yet, but I bought it yesterday.

u/usekidsforfood · 1 pointr/gadgets

This mouse ( allows you to map all the buttons to keyboard keys or key combinations. If the actions you are looking to perform have keyboard shortcuts, this would suffice. Otherwise as someone else suggested, a USB hub along with thumbdrive would work so you could carry around whatever program you needed to turn the keystrokes into actions.

u/flatlandinpunk17 · 1 pointr/sysadmin

This is what I use in the office:


Red Dragon MMO Mouse

I have the mmo mouse to bind commonly used commands to. Works quite well for me.

EDIT: My DasKeyboard has MX browns and a few other people in my office have mechanical keyboards. They don't bother us at all.

u/PurdyCrafty · 1 pointr/cad

I use a Redragon M901 PERDITION 16400 DPI High-Precision Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse for mine.

I use the side buttons to program custom macros (TEDIT, MOVE, Copy w/ anchor, delete etc).

It has a ton of useful features and its only 32.00 bucks

u/CantEvenUseThisThing · 1 pointr/OutreachHPG

If you're in the market for a wired mouse, I use a Redragon Perdition. It's got all the bells and whistles one expects of a mouse twice the price.

u/Cinnemon · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I went with the Redragon Perdition after hearing that some people had some issues with the side keys on Nagas. I love my mouse. Have you had any issues?

u/BiasedBullsFan · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I got this for 37$ a couple weeks ago and I love it, lots of buttons and programable lights, changeable weights

u/EthnicTwinkie · 1 pointr/wow

I use an MMO mouse. It allows me to pretty much keybind 12 keys for easy access. I'm so used to it that I have actually set it to use 36 keys. 1 through =, then Shift + 1 through = and Ctrl + 1 through =. I mount up, use all my profession skills, combat, everything through keybinds.

My wife uses the Razer Naga, however I have been using the Perdition Redragon for over a year and really like it - and it's about 2/3rds the price of the Naga

EDIT: They say it takes about 18 hours of actual gameplay to get used to using the buttons on the side of the mouse. I'd say that's about right. Inside of a week I was used to the buttons. In a month, I hated using mice w/o those buttons.

u/ALoadingScreen · 1 pointr/makemychoice

Give this one a shot. It doesn't cost that much more than the one you asked about.

u/rlramirez12 · 1 pointr/buildapcforme

Yes you will be, sorry I forgot about the mouse and keyboard :( I failed at that.

I have that EXACT video card and I game on one and watch youtube, stream, skype on the other. It's a 1080P killer card so it runs every game I have thrown at it in Ultra High no problem.

I like the 970 of the R9 because 1 power consumption, 2 the size, and 3 I personally think it's just the best card you can get for the price. Other's will argue with me, can call me an NVIDIA fan boy, but one thing that NVIDIA has over the AMD is optimization for the games. A lot less bugs and better support for games.

As for keyboard and mouse, personally, I just have a regular keyboard and I have a gaming mouse that I found on Amazon for 40 bucks that I absolutely love, but everyone games differently so it's up to you. My philosophy is, if it has great reviews then it can't hurt to try it. I'll throw the Window's Key on there, sorry the site is running really slow here at work.

u/21Conor · 1 pointr/leagueoflegends

Well taking into account your price range I would say this is probably your best bet; the logitech G402.

It's £40-45 but it is a really reliable accurate mouse. I used to use it myself before I got a razer deathadder (more expensive). The two buttons on the side are comfortable for your thumb, and there are also 2 more up on the clicker. They don't get in the way though and are actually pretty difficult to click, I never even used them, so don't worry about those ones.

The mouse is accurate, reliable, pretty light and free-flowing. Just get a good mouse mat (would recommend steelseries qck) and download the logitech gaming software to adjust your DPI to something you like.

u/Jaguar-Wong-is-Dead · 1 pointr/imdbvg

I've looked at a few of those, it's got mean leaning towards wired on the price angle.

This thing looks decent:

u/BearsEatGrub · 1 pointr/suggestapc

Desktop £1099

Monitor £115

Keyboard £25

Mouse £30

Custom configurations are too complicated, the Chillblast PC is excellent.

u/Boomsledge · 1 pointr/GiftofGames

I cannot recommend this one enough tho:

Good luck on your request!

u/showersareevil · 1 pointr/buildapc

Do you already have that 160 euro 60hz monitor? If not, for only 40 euros more you can go 144hz. That's really a no brainer.

You can save another 20 euros by getting G402 mouse which is a really nice gaming mouse and highly recommended on this sub.

I didn't realize how expensive 1660ti is in your country at 330 euros. At 200 euros, RX 580 8GB is much better value and it should be enough to get +100fps on most 1080p games on your 144hz monitor.

In USA, RX 580 8GB costs $180 on sale and 1660ti is less than $100 more expensive.

u/kiwiandapple · 1 pointr/buildapcforme

Won't be a jet engine. But if you want it to be more silent, you could buy 2 more aftermarket coolers. And replace the 2 stock fans.
I am a big fan (pun intended) of Noctua, Be Quiet, Gentle, Bitfenix and some CoolerMaster fans for when on a budget.

As for the peripherals.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Keyboard | Gigabyte GK-OSMIUM BRN Wired Gaming Keyboard | £74.98 @ Amazon UK
Headphones | Kingston HyperX Cloud Pro Headset | £50.99 @ Amazon UK
Mouse| Logitech G402| £38.00 @ Amazon UK
Mousepad| Qpad FX-44 Large| £18.00 @ Amazon UK
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | £181.97
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-10 02:16 GMT+0000 |

  • Keyboard: MX browns, macro keys, white backlight, nice wristrest, not that expensive. Very suttle look on it as well. I couldn't find to many reviews, but here is an unboxing and overview.
  • Headphones: Review! Very solid review. It as well matches our build and it's freaking "cheap" for a gaming headset. i wish I had enough money to give this one to my friend where I game with a lot, his headset is terrible and his microphone is a lot worse.
  • Mouse: Review! Again I don't really need to say more then this. If they still sell this mouse at the time that my own dies, I will get this one. I personally use the G400s wich got a "weaker' sensor and fewer buttons. But is still an amazing mouse.
  • Mousepad: This is pretty personal, but most people do like a cloth surface. Including myself. A tip when you get it: put it in the dryer for a few minutes. This will remove the wraps that it got after you unpack it. If you don't like the design and want a clean look instead. The SteelSeries heavy is a great alternative, with basicly the same dimensions as the Qpad.
u/Trompz · 1 pointr/leagueoflegends

Logitech always make the best mice imo.

G402 or G502 are amazing.

You can get mice which are just fine for less money though.

u/Ewdime · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/therandomaccountant · 1 pointr/pcgaming

G402 is currently on sale for £28.99

Havent used the personally 402 but the 502 served me for a few years and its a decent mouse and the 402 is almost exactly the same but it doesnt have a free scrolling mouse wheel.

Ajazz 75% mechanical keyboard for £23.99

I have an ajazz ak33 and have been using it for the last 3(?) years its very reliable and the knock off blue switches that it uses are as good as those on my old corsair keyboard.

Check out rocketjumpninja for mouse reviews though as you might want a smaller mouse (like the g203 which is similarly priced) that suites your hand size

also check out r/buildapcsales for current sales on PC hardware people will link peripherals as well and you might snag a nice deal.

u/mke5271 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

G402 is a good option as well.

u/cjbeames · 1 pointr/Overwatch

This mouse looks like a good place to start to me, what do you think?
Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury Gaming Mouse with 8 Programmable Buttons
And this keyboard looks decent too although I think I might be paying over the odds because it's pretty, again, thoughts?
Logitech G213 Prodigy Gaming Keyboard, RGB Backlit - QWERTY UK Layout

u/TimeRemove · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

The lack of buttons though... You can get this for the same amount:

Problem is that now you're downgrading sensor tech (2014) but for more buttons. Kind of a trade-off either way. I'm not personally a huge fan of wireless mice though.

u/NaQu · 1 pointr/MouseReview

The G402 Hyperion Fury is a really good mouse overall, and it's only 35 pounds. I know that breaks the budget as that's roughly 48 euros, but compared to other rivaling mice, it's a pretty good suggestion. Only thing to be aware of is the thumbbutton, if you have really large hands, this mouse wont work for you.

u/nw167 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace



I've got the G502 and G810, and they're great. Backlighting is good and very customisable, and the software works very well.

u/Dagerdome · 1 pointr/HardwareSwapUK
u/ChaQuinFredFa · 1 pointr/buildapcsalesuk

I bought the Logitech G402 for 19.99 GBP. (25 including shipping to Spain). It's a nice deal. An user said it costed him around 16 (shipping to UK ofc).

u/ManSkirtDude101 · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

go here prime or other orders then click placing an order then product information. What I said in the live chat was this: Hello this mouse you have here is 49.99 I would like to get the mouse price match from bestbuy here:

u/tookthebaitmate · 1 pointr/Overwatch

What price range are we talking?

If you have some money to spare, I would recommend Razer gear. It's some of the best out there.

The Razer DeathAdder costs 50$ and is probably the world's most popular gaming mouse.

The Razer BlackWidow costs 70$ and has mechanical keys. I love this because you have a noticable "click" when pressing in the keys which makes more very dynamic and precise gameplay.

In addition to this, you need a mousepad. It doesn't have to be a good/expensive brand, but make sure it's LARGE. It recently bought a huge mousepad and it is sooo nice being able to play without being scared to roll over the edge. Lower DPS improves your aim, so you may have to move around your mouse a lot from time to time. This is a gamechanger.

If you don't have 120$+ to spare on equipment, just go on Amazon and search for "gaming mouse / gaming keyboard". Most results will be very affordable and still cheap.

For example, I am currently using this gaming mouse for only 14$. It's perfectly fine in my opinion and quite nice.

u/SpinCycleMKV · 1 pointr/gaming

This is what I use, though it may not be the best it's worked for me. I accidentally broke my last one and got a different mouse and it was a great deal less comfortable. This has been the best mouse I have used though, and feels very ergonomic to me. You might want to look around a bit, otherwise I'd recommend going with that.

u/PenguinsWillLickYou · 1 pointr/ProjectCSS

If you want you can look at the Subreddit's stylesheet and sidebar:


Welcome To The Rusoklive subreddit



1.Watch RusokLIVE

2. You must believe in the power of JIF

3. You Must bow down to the godly Sarah Baira

4. You must kill the wrath of the chunky peanut butter

5. Repeat


PC Specs and hardware

Part | Hardware |
CPU | [i7-6700k] ( |
GPU | [EVGA GTX 1070] ( |
Motherboard | [Asus ATX DDR Intel LGA 1151 SATA III] ( |
SSD | [Samsung 850 EVO 250GB] (|
Power Supply | [EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2] ( |
Case | [Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-02 Mid Tower Gaming Case] ( |
RAM | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2133MHz] ( |
Headset | [Razer ManO'War Wireless Gaming Headset] ( |
Keyboard | [Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2016] ( |
Mouse | [Razer DeathAdder Chroma] ( |
Webcam | [Logitech C615 webcam] ( |

u/Clessiah · 1 pointr/MouseReview
u/hehehuehue · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

This one looks good to me
Razer Deathadder for mice is nice
Logitech G300s or 402 will do just fine

u/King15_767 · 1 pointr/buildapc

I don't have a ton of advice for most of the build, but I have a few thoughts.

  • I would recommend the 1070 over the 980 Ti. The benefits in VR that come along with the 1000 series are probably worth the wait for Hackintosh support.

  • ROCCAT seems like a bit of a strange choice for the mouse (you can get a DeathAdder Chroma for a very similar price), however I don't know a ton about gaming mice, so take this with a grain of salt.
u/Jon-3 · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

The naga is shaped to fit the claw grip into a palm grip. Meaning the ball of the mouse rises up to where the arch of your hand would be if you were to be holding it like a claw.
The ergonomic grip on the right that's supposed to hold your ring and pinkie fingers, may feel more comfortable it sacrifices control. This is because you can't use those fingers and your thumb to control leaving it all to your wrist, making micro adjustments harder.

Using your thumb for the nades and stuff on the side will mess up your aim, although you wouldn't be shooting while switching nades at the same time, not being able to push your thumb against the mouse on the left side, is the same problem with the ergo grip on the right side.
Also on the 2014 hitting each individual button on the huge keypad is kind of fiddly, getting those keybinds onto the keyboard will make you more swift with your nade usage which will save you time and save your life in many situations.

The claw grip in the picture attached is very exaggerated the arch of your fingers shouldn't be that high, unless you are to play at a high dpi, which is a big disadvantage.

I can't recommend steel series or logitech because I've never used them, but the safest bet for csgo would be a zowie, ec2-a or ec1-a depending on the size of your hands. However those mice are ~10 dollars above your price range.
Avoid Finalmouse like the plague.
If you're not too stingy about the 5 dollars you might want to buy a deathadder chroma it's on sale right now.

However since you're a razer user you might already know the lifespan of razer products aren't very long. I had the oppurtunity to use a deathadder elite, because I sent back my chroma and they sent me an elite back, and I found that the elite was way too heavy so if you're gonna buy a deathadder make sure it's a chroma.

I can't really recommend anything 50$ or under unfortunately.

u/kayk1 · 1 pointr/buildapc

SteelSeries Rival ($40) and Razer Deathadder ($60) are the mice I like for gaming.

Something like this for the keyboard: CM Storm QuickFire Rapid ($82)

I feel like the Rival and QuickFire Rapid together at $122 is a great deal.

u/aDudePerson · 1 pointr/LearnCSGO

It's the razer deathadder chroma. it's very light as it takes little to no effort to pick it up and down while playing. it's very mobile and light since it's 3.68 ounces.

u/Switchkill · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

EVGA GTX 980 2GB - Owned for a year, no OC, mining, or high temps ever.

AKG K7XX - Red Edition used both plastic tabs broken, functions perfectly.

Rosewill Apollo RK-9100xRRE Red Backlit Mechanical Keyboard - Used for 2 months excellent condition.

CM Storm Quickfire TK - Browns - Excellent condition

Deathadder Chroma - Barely used, functions perfectly.

u/theVelvetDevil · 1 pointr/mac

I've never encountered a bad Logitech mouse, and I've owned several over the past decade. It's ok to acknowledge that Apple's mice are horribly designed. Nobody will hurt you. I tried to use them for many years, but once I broke down and picked up a Logitech G5, I never looked back. These days I'm using a Razer Deathadder. Say what you will about the rest of their products, but I've never found a more perfect mouse for my hand shape.

u/IanP13 · 1 pointr/csgo

Hello! I am a huge fan of the SteelSeries products, but had to replace mine recently due to it dropping clicks a little to frequently for my liking. I switched over to the Razer Deathadder Chroma, and have been extremely happy with it! Here's a link to it on amazon.

Another good one is the SteelSeries Rival 700

I hope this helps!

u/ZeR0-PeRcEnT · 1 pointr/MouseReview

bruv you can order a brand new one on amazon at cheaper pricing.

u/Milestailsprowe · 1 pointr/pcgaming

Where do you live?

I was in Bestbuy today and a Deathadder Chroma was $65. Its $60 on amazon right now.

Razer products have been great for me outside of the Naga Epic. That mouse was a POS but the Naga Epic Chroma has been great. If anything no other manufactuer makes the variety of products Razer does which keeps me with them.

u/dootleloot · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Games: CSGO, Overwatch (Primarily Overwatch)

Hand Preference: Right

Budget:: $30-45 CAD

Hand Size: Big, IDK i'll come back to this when I get home

Grip: Palm

Weignt: No preference

Sensitivity: Low in games, high otherwise

Additional details: I'd like for it to have some extra buttons on the sides, and either a DPI changing button, or an easy to use software to change my DPI

Currently looking at the Razer Deathadder Chroma (On sale) and the Steelseries Rival 100 (Also on sale, but it's been at this price for ages) I have a friend willing to sell me a Rival 300 for $50 CAD, but idk if that's worth it. Currently using this piece of shit. I don't have a mousepad and I am looking to buy one so if you can find a good mouse for under my budget let me know please. Thanks in advance.

u/KennethEllen · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I personally have the Razer Deathadder,and it's amazing, especially for the price. Solid remappable buttons, plus a nice long braided cable, (I think something like 10-15 ft.)

It's currently $50 USD for the regular, $60 for one with RGB backlighting, which is a steal IMO.

Oh, BTW, it's PC Gamer's top gaming mouse.

u/Tonyhawk270 · 1 pointr/gadgets

The Deathadder chroma is actually a bit cheaper than the regular DA on amazon. I would suggest it since it's newer and can change colors.

Razer DeathAdder Chroma - Multi-Color Ergonomic Gaming Mouse

u/xDreamzZx · 1 pointr/buildapc

Deathadder, not many buttons though.

Rival, not many buttons either, slightly cheaper.

Naga, not the Epic version though, but got lots of buttons.

M65, slightly over budget though, but more buttons than Deathadder and Rival, fewer than Naga.

Just some of the awesome mice (yes, mice, not mouses :D) out there :)

u/Brakkio · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

What? The deathadder chroma is $55

And bestbuy pricematches if you cant wait

u/Vocandin · 1 pointr/MouseReview

I play lots of games, but BF3 is the only one that requires most from my mouse/ keyboard. The one you linked sounds great, but the price goes way higher than I thought it would be and I prefer how deathhader/ other mice looks. I have some razer stuff and didn't get any problem at all, they work great. Guess Ill stick with deathhader, but now my problem is there are so many lol. Is there any big difference from Chroma to Default one aside from multi color leds? If chroma works better I may get it, but probaly won't use the "chroma".

u/RiceLiife · 1 pointr/RandomActsOfGaming

Keeping it cheap and simple, I don't want all of your money, you have the right to keep most of it

Razor Death Adder gaming mouse:

Thanks in advance!

u/CermaSL · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Games: League of Legends, Not FPS games

Hand Preference: Right or Ambi

Budget: Thinking the most expensive I would go is a deathadder

Hand Size: 18

Grip: Palm

Weight: No Preference

Sensitivity: High

Additional Details: Kinda narrowed it down to the nixeus revel or a deathadder just based on a little research and I would like to know what you guys think.

I am leaning towards the deathadder just due the popularity of it, so it's obviously tried and true. I would like to know what you guys think in respect to is it worth the cost. I also don't know what the difference is between these two deathadders, if someone could clarify that would be great. Are there different types like non chroma and chroma?

u/cancerboy51135 · 1 pointr/razer
u/the1spacecowboy · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I have rather small hands and I absolutely love my Razer DeathAdder! It is definitely worth a look. The Razer software is great and the LED colors really pop out.

u/3049278 · 1 pointr/buildapc

I have a friend that is left handed and play CS:GO and DOTA with me all the time. He is quite a bit older, but he just kind of got used to playing with his right hand on the mouse. If he really needs it. Then getting an ambidextrous mouse would work wonders like the Mionix Avior 7000. A well regarded mouse or the Razer Deathadder is another amazing mouse.

u/Ibney00 · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

1: Well if you are looking to build a PC, I can't help you. But google may be able to. And if you are looking for advice on what to use to build one, there is /r/BuildMeAPC.

2: From what I know of computers, not much. Laptops aren't the best thing to be playing CS on. Everyone will say that. Even Globals in Rank-S who won MLG KatowiceHack Open One Winter Colonge 2018.

3: I would assume? Again I have no clue. These are mostly computer questions you should google rather than asking for advice on a CSGO forum.

4: ??? I don't think there is a way to make the console show only the damage you dealt after death. Unless you are throwing a nade I don't think that is possible.

5: It's like matchmaking but better. With better players who are way above the skill level of GN3. I haven't even started ESEA and i'm DMG. You should probably only start when you get better.

ESEA is not free, however you are right. It seems they took the cost off of the front page. I believe normal was $7 a month last time I checked and premium was $15? But if you want to find out for sure, you can create an account like they seem to want you to to find out.

6: Personally, I use a Logitec G502 and have very few complaints. However right now that is around $70 so its a bit out of your price range. I found the Razer DeathAdder Croma for $54 with a quick google search, and the reviews for it seem good, but I can't speak personally about it. It (kinda) has a similar shape to the one you had before.

7: You need one that clicks for lack of a better word. Infinately spinning mousewheels don't work as a measure has been put in place to stop you from achiving Bhop by simply just mashing the space key and the same effect applies here. With a little practice with the mousewheel, you wont be super consistent like on say a Bhop map, but you can land 3 or 4 Bhops consistently.

Hope that helps a bit.

u/the_Brave1 · 1 pointr/hardwareswap
u/Dick_Pain · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

SteelSeries Rival 100

Logitech g303

Those two are good mice that are at the top of your budget. Pro players use both.

If you want a cheaper mouse I know a guy with this one and he likes it.

I recently purchased a Deathadder Chroma and I love it. If you wanna drop another 15 dollars I recommend it.

u/LePornAddict · 1 pointr/MouseReview

I didn't get the term 'eSports' at first, turns out it's what being marketed even on Amazon.

There are several iterations of Deathadder. They are usually classified as (old) Deathadder 3 & 3.5G, Deathadder 2013/4G, Deathadder chroma and Deathadder Elite.


The eSports essential DA looks like the DA 2013 since both are advertised as having a 6400 dpi 4G sensor as known as PMW 3988. The Esports DA should be the Deathadder Elite. It has the PMW 3389, which is a variant of the most recent optical sensor, the PMW 3360. Razer also added a pair of CPI buttons on the top of the shell. Some reported that the coating was also improved on the DA Elite.

For your information, the DA Chroma has the PMW3989 sensor which is also very much enough for intense gaming.


The biggest drawback of the DA Elite in comparison to its former iterations is the lack of adequate onboard memory. You can't store personal cpi settings on it while it's viable on both the DA Chroma and DA 2013. That said, your settings are only tuned and saved through Razer Synapse, a software that is kind of notorious for buggy. You also have to keep it running all the time.

I didn't have any bad experience with both their hardware and software though.

u/kevstrikes · 1 pointr/RandomActsOfGaming

Wow this is a really big giveaway. Thanks for giving back, most people in your position wouldn't.

As for my requested item. I would like a new mouse as I have had the same mouse for awhile now. The price is $53.54. Thanks again OP and enjoy your winnings!

u/Educated_Hypothesis · 1 pointr/leagueoflegends

Hey there, I'm not sure how much you're willing to spend but I've been using this mouse and it's been absolutely amazing. Two extra mouse buttons on the side make it great for mapping pings to it

It's the Razer DeathAdder Chroma in case anyone doesn't want to click the link.

u/z-Routh · 1 pointr/buildapc

Here's a good place to get started for tip grip and claw grip mice.

The death adder by razer is arguably one of the best gaming mice you can buy, you can use palm grip, tip grip, and claw grip with it and its hands down one of my favorite mice.

check this review on mechanical keyboards. most cost 100+ which is why i recommend you read this.

I own a das keyboard, the ultimate (with no letters written on the keys, its a blank keyboard and it looks amazing)

That being said this a very good cheap mechanical keyboard

With the CM storm quickfire and the death adder you'll be at around 120. I realize this is slightly over your budget but it's gonna be well worth it. Trust me. Good luck

u/Takeoverkyle · 1 pointr/CoDCompetitive

19% off on Amazon. Got mine from Amazon on Monday Night and it came Wednesday afternoon on standard shipping.

u/AphoticAffinity · 1 pointr/redditblack

The top brands are Logitech, Razer, and Steelseries.

Here are some recomendations:

Razer Deathadder (for FPS) - THe DeathAdder is the staple for a lot of FPS gamers. Simple, smooth, responsive, and comfortable. Personally I love the feel of this mouse in my hand and it is quality built.

Logitech G700s (FPS/MMO)- The G700s is one of the best rechargible gaming mice with long lasting battery so you don't have to worry about it dying mid game. Also with over 13 programmable buttons on the mouse it's great for MMO and MOBA games! Personally I've only used this mouse a limited amount so I can't say just how long the battery lasts but it is REALLY comfortable in the hand and has great response.

Logitech Proteus - (FPS/MMO) - Great customizable mouse with variable weights and adjustable palm rest. 11 customizable buttons. Perssonally I haven't used this mouse but heard good things about it.

Steelseries Sensi (FPS) - I can't praise this thing enough. Smooth, comfy, basic and beautiful! Personally I have this mouse personally and love it. it's not fancy but boy does it just work!

u/gunslingerx64 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

ahh dude you could have gotten a real one for like $10-$20 more on Amazon :(

u/potatoeWoW · 1 pointr/Overwatch

Ordered Razer Deathadder Chroma today. Should be here by Sunday.


u/Azumba94 · 1 pointr/buildapc

nice setup man I just ordered the same monitor all you need is the display port cable to take full advantage which is included you seem to have everything you need I didn't see a mouse on your list so make sure to get a good one the one I got was this one:

u/ZEPOSO · 1 pointr/wow

I'd say it varies slightly depending on your class and spec but anything with at least some thumb buttons should be solid for whatever you play.

I currently use a Steel Series Rival 100 and I have zero complaints. Before that I used a Razer DeathAdder and that lasted me something like 6 years.

u/jaznoalpha · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

This is a good deal but please note it's not a "steal," according to Amazon's price history this mouse has been 35 bucks at least twice in the last year and it looks as though it's on sale fairly frequently. So no rush!

u/Zantanimus · 1 pointr/MechanicalKeyboards

I rocked a deathadder 2013 for a while and ran into a same issue with the doubleclciking. For something similar, I would consider going with Zowie, which is owned by BenQ, the monitor company that makes some of the best 144hz panels on the market. With Zowie mice, I use an EC-1A which has a nearly identical shape to that of the deathadder, if you want the transition to be smooth for your muscle memory.

For something less expensive, consult the wiki, or roll with a magicforce 108 (since it seems like you need a 10key at an affordable pricepoint) that just came out. They make great starter mechs and have a ton of entry level switch options. I've been rocking a Magicforce 68 key for the better part of the year and have had zero problems with it yet. (Still working on getting my first "real" mech board put together, heh.)

As for headphones, you'll always be better off rolling with a dedicated set of headphones and a separate mic attachment for the price. For a good use in FPS, I'd recommend the Audio Technica ATH-AD700X paired with an Antlion ModMic for a great entry level headset and mic that will give you better positional awareness because of the soundstage.

u/Sam443 · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive
u/xGhost_ · 1 pointr/buildapc

Yo, dont skimp on a mouse, save up a little bit before you buy one, buy a nice mouse. Your mouse depends on your aim, how good you are. For example if you have $100, you wanna buy a cheap keyboard, and the best possible mouse you can. I recommend this mouse, a little bit out of your price range, but save up for it

u/protiotype · 1 pointr/MouseReview

It's the 30th of March 2016 and I've just refreshed the Amazon page:

"In stock on April 1, 2016." (changed from "Usually ships within 1 to 2 months." - which the EC2-A still seems to display)

So I've just excitedly placed my EC1-A order and am banking on it having Huano switches given the characteristics of all Zowie product pages across the world of late. I don't really want Omrons (they'd better if they were slightly clickier and more durable), which were in my two previous IME3.0.

Not sure why the description for the EC1-A has "24-step scroll wheel" whereas the EC2-A lists "16-step scroll wheel" - is that an error or just a difference between the new-new ECs?

u/Radical_4D · 1 pointr/pcgaming

Here you go -

That is the preferred mouse of 40% of CSGO pro players. If your into shootin stuff you cant get better than Zowie. They have many different mice and I wish I could palm them all. This one in particular has a good grip.

Check out this video for further infos -

u/Fishy_Mc_Fish_Face · 1 pointr/BuyItForLife

Zowie EC1-A, or the EC2-A if you have smaller hands

It's called a gaming mouse, and it works really well for gaming. It's just a very comfortable, ergonomic mouse with a fast response time and high DPI options.

u/c0ld-- · 1 pointr/OverwatchUniversity

Also, here are links to some of the other mice:

u/BadPenguin810 · 1 pointr/buildapc

Mouse Pad - Reflex Lab Pro

I've used this everyday for over 6 months now and it's holding up well. One of my favorite purchases, having so much space for my mouse hand is great for competitive FPS games.

Mouse - Zowie EC1-A

This mouse is the real deal. Great responsiveness, feels great in my hand, a button with 4 DPI settings that I can't accidentally press in the middle of play, and no annoying software to install. Very simple with just 5 buttons.

Keyboard - Corsair Vengeance K65 Mechanical

Wasn't my first choice of keyboard, but I have no regrets. Keys feel great with red switches, although it's very loud without any dampeners. Recommend o-rings if you have an open mic.

Wrist Rest - Glorious Gaming

Despite the cringey name, they seem to have a decent reputation for their products, and though I've had mine for a short time, it's lasted well and has been very comfortable. I was unsure of the thickness at first, but I find I prefer a thicker wrist rest.

Headphones - Superlux HD681 EVO

I'm not anything close to an audiophile, so I can't comment too much on the sound. They're plenty loud enough, and sound decent enough to me. More importantly, for me anyway, is their durability and comfortability. They've lasted me nearly 2 years now and the foam pieces are only just starting to crack and wear down with heavy use. They even included a spare pair, which I haven't felt the need to use yet. They're great to use for extended periods of time as well. They don't start to bother me unless they're not sitting right, or I've just spent too long at the computer.

Microphone - Zalman Zm-Mic1

Has a 10ft wire and is under $10. It's kind of hard to beat, as far as mics go. Very durable, mine is 5 years old. I even spilled rum and coke in it once, still works fine. The sound quality is rather lacking, but that's to be expected from a mic this cheap.

Gamepad - Xbox One controller for emulators, Steam Controller for everything else

u/nicholas_eSportsGear · 1 pointr/MouseReview

I'd recommend the Zowie EC1-A or EC2-A and the FK2.

The EC1-A is closer to the weight of the Sensei at 97 grams, while the EC2-A is closer to the shape of the Sensei.

If you don't mind going lighter than 97 grams, the Zowie FK2 is even closer to the shape of the Sensei but significantly lighter at 90 grams.

I've reviewed all Zowie FK mice, including the FK2, if you're interested, but you'll find plenty of useful info about the EC1/EC2-A on Amazon reviews.

Let me know if that helps. (:

u/RagingAlpaca546 · 1 pointr/leagueoflegends

Don't go super expensive. League doesn't require a state-of-the-art mouse like other competitive games, such as CS:GO. I, personally, use a zowie fk1. Pretty reliable simple mouse.

u/Gibontv · 1 pointr/techsupport

I don't know if you like big/small mouse. But if you are a gamer or at least play some games go with 'optical mouse'.

This is the one I'm using right now(it's big) link

u/mesto102 · 1 pointr/BuyItForLife

Check out the Zowie

BenQ ZOWIE EC1-A E-Sports Ergonomic Optical Gaming Mouse

u/motionglitch · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/PanzerNick · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Zowie EC-1A its the bigger version of the EC2-A, its a simple mouse and will fit large hands and palm grip comfortably.

u/ChiliManiac · 1 pointr/MouseReview

You might check out the G303...

If you're looking for something that's 20 bucks you can find the g100s easily on amazon for 20 dollars or less what we recommend is buying them on amazon then returning them(a few days is usually enough time to figure out if long term usage will give you cramps) and trying another mouse if you're in the United States, Best Buy sometimes has a selection of gaming mice that you can put your hand around.*Version*=1&*entries*=0

Sadly, we can't match your usage exactly, reviews and advice are approximations of what /r/mousereview does. You'll have to do some experimentation and figure out what gripstyle you use and how big your hands are.

/u/rocketjumpninja might be able to help you out in the OEM mice department better than any of us.

u/Vital1ty · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Not sure about the two you listed, but claw with RGB and a hella good sensor sounds like the Logitech G303

Kinda expensive though.

u/Budor · 1 pointr/hardware

Logitech G303

I had the mouse for over 2 weeks but its not comfortable for me as i use a palm grip. I really wanted to keep it as everything else was simply the best i have ever had in a mouse.

Sensor is the same as in the Proteus G502 which is arguably the best sensor on the market and it felt much better than my current Razer Deathadder Chroma, or any other mice i tried last year (steelseries, func, roccat, zowie. I tried tons extensively). If the G502 wasnt that heavy and "funny" looking i would have gotten it instead of the Adder.

The G303 has specific spring feathered buttons, its difficult to describe but every click feels so damn satisfying and on point. Its the mechanical keyboard of gaming mice imo. ;)

The weight (subjective) and sleeved cable (not stiff) were top notch too, way better built quality than the competition. I didnt really care for the RGB lights and turned them off, same on my Adder.

You should really try it, if Logitech ever builds a G502 shaped mouse that is lighter and has the spring loaded mouse buttons of the G303 i will simply ignore the shitty looks and buy 5 to last me forever.

Edit: Heres a post i found while looking for a proper term to describe the clicky feel of the mouse. On another note, i was over the whole thing and your post just brought the memory and pain back off me not being able to use the G303 comfortably...

u/Skyrunes · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

All the top quality gaming mice I can think of have a primarily black shell, but many do have blue lights. The Logitech G303 comes to mind for your price range. If I were you, I would use a resource like the Rocket Jump Ninja YouTube channel and/or his website to find out which mouse would best suit you.

u/PoE_Fan78 · 1 pointr/buildapc

Do not get the Firefly mousepad, yes it has RGB but the quality of it sucks really bad. Stay away from Razer if you can, most people have bad experiences with them. Stick with Logitech / Corsair. Also this Mouse has the best sensor on the market right now, any CSGO player who has used it will recommend it 100 times over, including myself.

u/Amilitos · 1 pointr/buildapc

FinalMouse 2016 Classic Ergo this is the best mouse after the Tournament Pro (But it's hard to find it) for fps games with 0 Response Delay.

Then the best mouse for your budget is Logitech G303

u/Plisc · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

After going through various mice for FPS games, I cannot recommend anything else but the Logitech g303 Daedalus Apex. This mouse is by far the best I have ever used spanning various DPI modes, a sleek and sturdy design for true competitive accuracy, one of the best sensors on the market and last but not least, RGB lighting. I highly recommend it because not only is it insanely responsive but also lightweight.
You can find it here:

Wish you the best of luck in your mice hunting!

u/CommodityFetishist · 1 pointr/buildapc

This guy ^ is great for mice.

If you're looking for general purpose, the Logitech G900 is great but pricey depending on where you are. In the UK I can get it for £80 which is pretty good considering it's one of the best mice out there.

For FPS, Zowie FK2 and Logitech G303 are ones to look into. Or a Razer.

Make sure you measure your hand size, the guy above tells you how, and compare to his recommendations. Also identify what your grip type is: palm, finger or claw, as that can matter.

edit: G303 is around your budget.

u/is-numberfive · 1 pointr/MouseReview
u/AlehCemy · 1 pointr/Rainbow6

It isn't double handed. It's right handed.

Edit: Notice it has buttons on the left side, meant for using with your thumb. So yeah, not double handed and yes right handed. The pic also make it look like double handed, but it have a subtle curvature fitting right hand.

u/TheWbarletta · 1 pointr/GlobalOffensive

If you have a fingertip/claw grip I recommend the g303, if you have a palm grip the g502 is more comfortable, they both have the same sensor which is very good

u/Bad_Demon · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

FPS version of this mouse is the G303. shares the same laser as the G502 Proteus, but smaller with less buttons - also on sale

u/10000Swags · 1 pointr/runescape

Hi, wired mouse user here because I also play stuff like League, Overwatch, and various other MMOs.

I'm using this mouse atm:

It's actually a medium sized mouse so if you have, I guess, average sized hands then here is a good option. This mouse glows up on the logo and on the sides, but if you want to make it change to different colors or have a pulse effect, then you have to download the Logitech program thingy. There are no rubber parts on the mouse, so it is actually quite easy to keep clean. The design is also very neat. You can also customize your DPI if you have downloaded the program, which is actually very useful if you want to keep the same DPI that you are used to with your previous mice. I bought it around 6 months ago after my Razor Deathadder's buttons broke down, and it is still going strong. Currently, it is only $40 on Amazon.

u/Blais_Of_Glory · 1 pointr/Gaming_Gear

Logitech is the best option for mice. I currently use a Logitech G303 but they aren't sold anymore. What is your budget? Left or right handed?

EDIT: I did a quick search on PC Part Picker: Mice and found the best mouse for the price. Check out this Logitech - G300S Wired Optical Mouse. It's currently on sale for only $24.90 on Amazon and normally sells for $40. I already have two extra mice still in their packages but might have to buy this one now too, as it's a great deal.

u/DrMcMeow · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I have not touched one of those in probably 15 years so I do not remember exactly the dimensions. one of these should be fairly close?

u/koji9 · 1 pointr/elderscrollsonline

I use a Logitech G303. It's a smaller mouse and super light. I had tried the Logitech Proteus G502 but it felt too bulky and heavy. Returned it for the cheaper G303 and couldn't be happier. It's on sale for $25 right now on Amazon too.

Edit: the G303 has the PMW3366 sensor which I think is the same as the 3360 sensor.

u/miesto · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Logitech g303? it tapers towards the back though

edit: meh this shape is more like the inverse of the mouse you asked about, still a good mouse though

u/Mamba3324 · 1 pointr/bapcsalescanada

Thank you Ambushes!

Shipping cost hurts a bit but still a good deal.

BTW lowest was $50+ tax on this past week

u/AnthonySlips · 1 pointr/DotA2

Unique and simple. Similar design to yours. If you can scrape up $50 I highly recommend this mouse. Built for moba player. Not too well known, I'm not sure why.

u/Apswny · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Can't recommend the enough. It's minimalistic, has rave reviews, RGB lighting, stores all settings on the mouse, and has arguably the best sensor on the market hands down. It also benefits claw/finger grip mousing and was designed specifically for it, especially in the context of FPS/TPS gaming (which every game you mentioned is).

Oh, and it's pretty cheap on Amazon. $49.96 on sale with Prime eligible shipping.

u/sonkirito · 1 pointr/buildapc

Okay, so since you are playing "competitive games": this matters, if you arent than all that matters is the luxury standards you will accept, in your case you want a mouse with the best sensor available for your price. which looks like 36$ (I dont know how much shipping will cost) Keyboard however does not exactly matter as much as long as it suits your needs and modern day keyboards do not have as bad ghosting anymore that it wouldnt hold you back, (unless you are playing starcraft with a million keybinds and apm) so any usb keyboard you want is fine, Mouses are usually a little more expensive for the added advantage they will give you in competitive gaming, but generally nowadays top mouses are ones with a 3310/3360/3366 sensors in them but there are a few which are still good for cheaper options such as the 3059SS, common unknown brandcheap amazon/ebay mouses will not feature any of these sensors and present a noticable disadvantage in game when compared to one of these and lack quality, Sorry for the rant.

Smaller mouse, popular loved, decent sensor, good price! 30$

Bit bigger mouse, 2nd best sensor on the market, top 40 rated mouse, Newer, on sale!
1$ over budget

If you can spare a couple more dollars I highly suggest you take the G402 fast. as I doubt this sale will last too long, but if your budget is really tight the SSR100 is not a bad choice! :)

Edit: typos.

u/RacistParrot · 1 pointr/QuakeLive

Download my cheat here

u/dotareddit · 1 pointr/buildapc

> i was trying to buy a steelseries rival 100 for 2 months now and i cant find someone who has it

u/ItzzFinite · 1 pointr/buildapc

I enjoy my Steelseries Rival 100 which is super cheap. I'm sure there's plenty of other options though, but here's some if you don't want to look.

Logitech G300s $26.95

SteelSeries Rival 100 $32.50

SteelSeries Sensei $47.90

Razer Deathadder $56.19

u/billyc74 · 1 pointr/MouseReview

better than the Rival 100?

u/MRThundrcleese · 1 pointr/buildapc

the corsair saber is only $50 on newegg

the final mouse is a driverless mouse with one of the highest quality sensors you can buy. they save money by using an OEM housing. they are some of the lightest mice you can buy. every member of the finalmouse team is legendary eagle level or higher. its made by esports players for esports players.

the havit and red dragon look like ok entry level mouse. the build quality is suspect and they use unknown sensors. from a purely bang/buck they might be your best option as they are so cheap they only have to work.

if you want something a little nicer without breaking the bank, the corsair m65($45) or logitech g502($60) are great large mice.

the steelseries rival 100($34) is as budget as i can recommend. great build quality, and a great sensor for the money

u/Betrayus · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

Not sure what your budget is but you can get a Rival 100 for $28, and they also have one in amazon warehouse for $20...

u/sympathyfordiscord · 1 pointr/MouseReview
u/AscendedAncient · 1 pointr/pcgaming

I've got the Red Dragon as a backup mouse, and it massively sucks. Get a Steelseries Rival 100

u/stylus2vinyl · 1 pointr/buildapc

If you are looking to spend $30 on a mouse go with a reputable brand like Logitech, SteelSeries or Corsair.

u/thesaxophonesoloist · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

You can get the steel series rival on amazon for $39.99, and it is prime if you have it.
I have this mouse and love it, it is rgb.

u/TacticalHog · 1 pointr/buildapc

Gaming equipment doesn't have to be expensive thankfully

Currently using this mainly because there's so many sensitivity options

u/flippedieflop · 1 pointr/battlestations
u/Night_Fev3r · 1 pointr/tf2

Lemme know if you have any quesitons.

Keep in mind that these prices are not final or the best available. PCPartPicker just takes whatever listings it finds on the internet. Generally, these parts are cheaper. There's also resources like /r/BuildAPCSales where you can find cheaper prices (more on that later).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU | Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor | $109.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $26.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $89.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $49.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $44.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card | XFX Radeon RX 460 4GB Video Card | $114.00 @ Amazon
Case | Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case | $38.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $49.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $534.70
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| Total | $524.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-19 11:16 EST-0500 |


Here is a guide on how to overclock the CPU in this build:

Here is a benchmark of the CPU in TF2:

Min. FPS 105 | Max. FPS 287 | Avg. FPS 156
Model detail: High|Texture detail: High|Shader detail: High
Water detail: Reflect all|Shadow detail: High|Anti-aliasing mode: 8x MSAA
Filtering mode: Anisotropic 16X|VSync: Disabled|Motion blur: Enabled

The GPU used in the video is more expensive. The RX 460 performance is comparable, is newer and has more VRAM. TF2 doesn't really care about the GPU, anyway.

Tweaking the settings and using some configs can easily get you more FPS.


Saving money.

As I mentioned above, /r/BuildAPCSales is a fantastic place to find deals on PC parts. There's a few things to keep in mind, though.

Parts you cannot replace from the list:

  • CPU
  • Motherboard

    The CPU (i3-6100) has hyperthreading, which essentially means the CPU performs better. The motherboard was also the cheapest that supports overclocking, which extends the life of your PC. If you change one of these two parts, I cannot guarantee that they will work together or support overclocking.

    Parts you can replace from the list:

  • RAM (Memory) (DDR4 only)
  • Storage (SSD and HDD)
  • GPU (Graphics Card)
  • PSU (Powersupply)

    RAM must be DDR4, it's very easy to tell because it will always be in the title. Any RAM that is labeled DDR3 or DDR2 will not work with the PC.

    SSDs are insanely fast. The caveat is that they are expensive for their GB size. Any SSD will work with the PC, so if you find a bigger SSD for a cheaper price, go for it.

    HDDs are slow, but affordable in large sizes. The difference is that games on SSDs will load faster, while games on HDDs will load slower. Keep the games you want to load fast on the SSD, and other games, movies, music, etc. on the bigger HDD.

    PSUs are tricky and I don't recommend picking a different one. The one I chose leaves room for upgrades, is easier to use and, most importantly, is reliable. A non-reliable PSU can destroy your PC. Trust me, just stick with the one I chose or ask /r/BuildAPC if another one you find cheaper is reliable.


    Good mechanical keyboard: TOMOKO 87 Key Blue Switch Mechanical Keyboard, $34.99 USD

    Good gaming mice: Logitech G300s, $24.90 USD, SteelSeries Rival 100, $29.88 USD, Corsair Harpoon RGB, $29.99 USD

    1080p, low response time monitor: Acer G226HQL 21.5", $89.99 USD

u/PackYakRS · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

Is on sale for 50$ and is a great gaming mouse (SS Rival 300)

u/Gajible · 1 pointr/MechanicalKeyboards
u/Haxasaurus · 1 pointr/MouseReview

I'm looking for a new mouse to replace my cheap E-3lue Cobra because the scroll wheel isn't super responsive anymore. I've loved this mouse mostly because of how light it is and the two side buttons. Also, the adjustable DPI is pretty handy for games that handle sensitivity differently. Anyways, here's my answers to the list.

  • Games I'll be playing: Overwatch and Witcher 3 mostly for now, but I play just about anything from FPS to RPGs.
  • I'm right handed
  • Not looking to spend more than $50
  • Hand size: probably about 20 cm
  • Preferred grip type: Fingertip grip
  • Weight preference: Lighter is better, imo. My current mouse is 4 ounces and it feels about perfect
  • One mouse I'm looking at is the Steel Series Rival 300. Would this fit the bill for me?
  • Also, I don't need more than 6 buttons (LMB, RMB, DPI, and two side buttons). Anything more than that is excessive for me.

u/Birrrd_ · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Its $45 but i would highly suggest you pay the premium. So good.

Edit: fixed the link

u/RedMage928 · 1 pointr/buildapc

My brother lent me a spare Logitech G600. It's definitely a mouse issue and not the pad.

I'm similar to you. I have big hands so my two rightmost fingers drag if I don't grip the mouse with them and I tend to pick up lighter mice. Loving the G600 except for the 12 side buttons

How come the steelseries rival 300 is $50 and higher than a corsair saber at $68? The final mouse is also only $67

The HAVIT HV-MS976GT is the #1 best seller on Amazon for $10 and the Redragon M601 is 56% off, but I'm guessing they're lacking?

What's the best big/heavy gaming mouse similar to the G600 without buttons for my buck?

u/Dissentient · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

>OR WHAT OTHER ONE WOULD YOU recommend under $50

How about ?

u/drfoqui · 1 pointr/buildapc

I'm looking for a mouse recommendation under the following parameters:

Price: absolute max of $55 but ideally more like $40.

I have more of a palm grip. I play mostly FPS and I also use it to work.

I have average size hands but tend to not like small mice very much.

I don't particularly care about having a lot of programmable buttons. Wireless is cool but I don't need it. I'd rather have a better sensor.

I'd like a mouse that doesn't look like it was designed by a 9 year-old who likes spaceships (nothing against those who do).

My options right now are Mionix Naos 3200, Steelseries Rival 300 or Logitech G402, which are about the same price right now. I also saw the G303 on sale at Best Buy but I'm worried that it is a bit small for my taste. I'm open to other suggestions as well.

Any recommendations?

u/GABE_PWN · 1 pointr/MouseReview

If you want a larger mouse, it's kind hard to find cheap, large mice that aren't crap. You could get the 2013 DeathAdder or the Rival 300. Neither are exactly cheap, but they're not as expensive as many other high-performing mice.

u/LurkingUnicorn · 1 pointr/buildapcforme

I will let one of the other nice folks of Reddit answer your monitor question. I'm a noob in that regard. My personal setup is a 144hz monitor but looks like you need a 60hz. I'm not sure what the best 60hz monitors are.

I will give you a few extra pointers and suggestions from my latest build a few months ago.

Mice are generally purely preference. I've never heard of the brand in your build so I'm a bit concerned of the quality. I personally enjoy the Steelseries Rival.
SteelSeries Rival 300, Optical Gaming Mouse - Black

That ram you have in your build seems expensive. I was able to get a set of trident RGB ram for $111 on a Newegg sale. Keep an eye on r/buildapcsales and sign up for Newegg sale emails. Depending on when you buy, you should be able to find a better price than $120 for 16gb.

I'm not sure if Jet is still offering the Triple15 deal or something similar for new customers. But basically the first 3 purchases I made were 15% off capping at $30 max. So I got my 3 most expensive items from them and it was cheaper than anywhere else. Look into that and keep it in mind if you weren't aware of it already.

I'm not sure if your MoBo will support it, but I spent $23 on a cablemod RGB light strip that makes the S340 Elite look awesome. Totally doing nothing for your performance, just added aesthetics.

One thing to keep in mind for the S340 Elite. Mine only came with two exhaust fans (rear back exhaust and top rear exhaust). I bought two additional fans for front intake to improve the airflow in my case. I bought a pair of fan splitters to connect both sets of two fans to one fan connection on the MoBo each because I only had two fan connectors on the MoBo.

I checked your MoBo specs:
"4 x 4-pin system fan connectors 1 x 4-pin RGB LED strip connector"

You won't need fan splitters if you want to hookup 4 case fans. You can also add an RGB light strip
CableMod WideBeam Magnetic LED Strip RGB - 60cm / 30 LEDs

Again, light strip totally unnecessary. Just looks awesome. You could always add it in down the road.

u/TheNerdFactor · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

You are better off getting an extremely cheap mech and using a generic mouse for now. The mouse in the combo offers no customizability or software and you will eventually want to upgrade the keyboard to mechanical anyways. Might as well go endgame in one department than going subpar in both. When you do decide to upgrade your mouse in the future, I suggest the Steelseries Rival 300. It is an extremely high quality mouse that is totally endgame, for a very low price.

u/Ezthran · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Hey guys so I'm building up and old laptop and am in need of a mouse. On my desktop, I use a Rival 300 . The issue is the cord is really long and the size isn't so suitable for my laptop's portability. Are there similar portable mice out there (planning on playing a lot of csgo lul)? Thanks!

Budget: 50 USD

u/mrsodafountainjoy · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Steelseries Rival 300! I havr 2 of them and they're great. apparently they really dropped in price They used to be 60 or 70 when I got mine. You use their software to set your dpi sens and set the scroll wheel and logo colors. then it saves to the mouse and you can delete the software if you're not going to change the settings again in the future. I switched to these mice after having a deathadder start double clicking after about 6 months.

u/SirSebi · 1 pointr/MouseReview

These links are in german tho:


Rival 300

u/nerdslayer69 · 1 pointr/bapcsalescanada
u/Sturmgeshootz · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Corsair Scimitar PRO RGB or Steel Series Rival 500. Those are the only MMO/MOBA mice I'm aware of that are using optical sensors. Razer, Roccat and Logitech are still using lasers in theirs.

EDIT: I take that back. Apparently Havit has released an MMO/MOBA mouse using a PMW3360. Havit typically only sells cheap, crappy mice. For them to be offering something with a 3360 in it is somewhat amazing. Havit HV-MS735.

u/FarrelMFajar · 1 pointr/MouseReview
u/just_a_random_dood · 1 pointr/MouseReview

G600 is going for $25 on Amazon right now

Compared to this generic mouse for $33 which would be better?

I'd like to keep the 1-2 month shipping time for the G600 in mind as well.

u/C0stc0-Ch1ck3n · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/foleyd2 · 1 pointr/MouseReview
u/alfredhere · 1 pointr/pathofexile

Why dont you buy a multi-button mouse?

something like this

u/Swivel_Eyed · 1 pointr/wownoob

Im fairly new to MMORPGs in general, and I can not praise how much easier a mouse made for MMORPGs has made my life. It has the 12 numerical buttons on the side and is surprisingly easy to use.

I was worried at first that it would be hard to use, but after an hour I was hitting each button on the mouse no problem. If you are just getting it for the purpose of playing RPGS you dont even need to go nuts on a pricey mouse. I got this one - and its absolutely great.

u/Firmament1 · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Try this.

Best sensor on the market, not certain of its weight, though.

u/Mystifizer · 1 pointr/MouseReview

the top sensor is the PMW3360 and its variants (3361 / owl-eye / 3366 / 3389 / truemove3, etc)

If you want an MMO layout, you could take a look at:

u/Butterypitchfork · 1 pointr/buildapc

Sadly I don't think so. I was in the same boat you are when I was looking for a mouse. I just look at the product dimensions that Amazon lists before buying an item or looked up video reviews. I recently bought this I usually buy from Havit because of cost and they have a wider frame.

u/Tezdoll · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

just to make sure, this is your mouse?

E: near the bottom of this page that are version, which version is yours?

Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury Gaming Mouse Logitech G303 Daedalus Apex Gaming Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Tunable Gaming Mouse Logitech Pro Gaming Mouse

You have gone to this site and update the firmware of the mouse and this is the software you are using to try to change the DPI?

u/PriceKnight · 1 pointr/bapcsalescanada

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u/DaveTheGunfighter · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

If you are coming from a 303, you might want to look into the G Pro. It's getting pretty good reviews and the ergonomics are fairly similar to the 303.

u/go3dprintyourself · 1 pointr/Overwatch

I use Logitech pro gaming mouse. It's good for fps games

I personally couldn't suggest razer as others may but the death adder isnt a bad mouse. Steelseries also makes nice mice

u/lanceh90 · 1 pointr/LogitechG

The Logitech G Pro Wired is, well, wired. It is based off the same design as the G305, which is the wireless version.

The Logitech G Pro also comes with the latest HERO sensor of 16k DPI. This model is called theLogitech G Pro HERO.

The Logitech G Pro Wireless is a special esports gaming mouse that is wireless and uses the same HERO sensor. However, it has a completely different shape.

TL;DR: It is wired.

u/zakabog · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

I like my Logitech G Pro mouse a lot, it's 4.6 Oz and I think any lighter would be too light.

u/DiscipleTD · 1 pointr/MouseReview

Here is the GPo. It has a fantastic sensor with no concern. Same shape as G203 with different (lighter) switches for Mouse 1 and 2.

Best mouse I've used if shape is excluded, but I personally didn't like the shape.

Logitech G Pro Gaming FPS Mouse with Advanced Gaming Sensor for Competitive Play

Edit: I definitely didn't forget the link or anything.

u/namepu · 1 pointr/newsokunomoral
u/KuroKitten · 1 pointr/Competitiveoverwatch

/u/Masquerading_Altoid I did some research since I made that last comment, and found out that the Logitech G Pro uses the same PMW3366 sensor as the G502, but in a much lighter frame. I'd probably recommend this over the G502 now, unless you happen to prefer heavier mice or really need the extra side buttons =)

u/steeze206 · 1 pointr/Battletops

Laptop: Eluktronics P650 w/ i7 and gtx 1070

Laptop Stand: Vivo Arm and

Mouse: Logitech G Pro

Keyboard: E Element Z88

Monitor: Acer ED242QR

Running Rainmeter and Wallpaper Engine.

u/bobel33 · 1 pointr/SiegeAcademy

I personally use a razer deathadder chroma but IMO its personal preference (razer fanboy). My good friend uses this mouse and thinks its really good. this is one of the best and lightest mouse on the market. Sadly its almost always sold out so going for that mouse could take a few months. Hope this helped.

u/cachilipitu · 1 pointr/Gaming_Gear

I was looking at the mouses in the Logitech Page and the lightest are G Pro's. I'm not gonna pay for the wireless one, so I'm thinking about the wired one. Is this the one?

If you have any other option with the 3360 series sensor, I'm open to ideas.
Also a question, why is Logitech changing its sensor to the Hero one, if the 3360 series is still better?

u/PlumpAF · 1 pointr/bapccanada

IMO I would spend the extra $20 and either get an asus vg248qe or BenQ xl2411p. The acer one you listed has no tilt or height adjustment.

You could spend $10 more on your psu, get full modularity and 200w more..

The mouse you chose isn't the greatest, this is one of the best mice on the market for only $20 more. This is probably the change I would recommend most making.

Spend $30 more and get double the capacity of ssd

Overall very good build though

u/Hellraiser133 · 1 pointr/pchelp

Did you try this with a different set of mouse & keyboard, and try to check drivers in device manager, if any caution triangle symbol ⚠️, right click on it and try to update drivers, if it says where to get drivers just say search automatically. After successfull updates restart PC and try with the old peripherals. If works great but If problem still persists then it might be one of the following :

  1. Faulty drivers, Format OS.

  2. problem with keyboard and mouse, replace them if they have warranty or buy Logitech everything.
    Best keyboard -

    Take the linear keys version is the best.
    Best mouse -

    Best mouse and they both are RGB.

  3. Motherboard needs a CMOS reset and everything might work fine.

  4. last ditch effort, replace motherboard.

    Let me know how it goes.
u/josh6499 · 1 pointr/bapcsalescanada
u/iguessthiswasunique · 1 pointr/gamingsuggestions
u/Reichstein · 1 pointr/chromeos

Here you go, I found a fairly budget friendly mouse that also has 5 on-board profiles for mouse buttons, the Logitech "Pro Gaming Mouse". Amazon Listing The seem to be around $100 or less depending on where you get one.

Keep in mind that the on-board memory is configured via the PC application, so if you don't have a PC or don't have access to a PC then this would be a poor solution for you.

u/depro101 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Death adder is not a bad choice but the grips on the side can wear off pretty easily, I have seen really good reviews on the Logitech G Pro lately tho (link below)

u/gutenmorgenuhu · 1 pointr/OverwatchUniversity

Hard to tell. If you have a standard OEM mouse, it seems to be the problem.
Just get a decent gaming mouse e.g.:

u/slyrichard1233 · 1 pointr/MouseReview

This kept getting deleted:

I have 4 reliable ones in mind atm, but I'm really not sure which would best suit me.

Logitech G-Pro

Logitech G-403


Zowie FK1 or FK2

If any mice guru can help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!!

u/DanielBae · 1 pointr/hardwareswap

Brand new the mouse is $70. Right now it's at $52 on Amazon

u/FlishMonkey · 1 pointr/buildapc

Whoa hold up I’m talking about this which is just a bit over

u/PanicAtTheCSGO · 1 pointr/GameDeals

Hmm. Well luckily there are lots of options for small mice so it shouldn't be an issue. Possibly even the diamondback, I believe the reason its not well reviewed is its unergonomic flat shape, most mice fit the hand better but of course this could be good for some people. Anyways moving on:

Logitech G Pro
Confusingly it actually is named the G Pro. Its basically a small, simple mouse but it has the best sensor on the market and is made by Logitech so it should in theory last a while.

Zowie za13
This is their only mouse listed as small. I haven't personally tried one though, but their ec2-a has the same internals and is widely regarded as a good mouse, I liked it.

If you want any other suggestions or help let me know!

u/kronkifer · 1 pointr/buildapc

Logitech G Pro or G 403? The lights are customizable. Or Zowie. Also r/MouseReview

u/Alfredintum · 1 pointr/buildapc

I found a bit large for my hand the Razer DeathAdder Elite, and I refund it because the lights won't come on the mouse, replaced it with the Logitech G Pro and it fits better in my hand and the built quality feels superior than the Razer one.

Logitech G Pro

u/swnne · 1 pointr/buildapc

>is it really true that dpi is just a marketing ploy?

Pretty much.
Here is a slightly outdated but still relevant spreadsheet of CSGO pro player setups.

I'd recommend the logitech g203 prodigy, which you can snag for like 30 bucks.
Nearly identical to the g-pro, but without the 50 dollar pricetag, and with a slightly less over the top sensor which has effectively no impact on how well it performs.
2 side buttons + an extra center button; more than enough for FPS games or anything that doesn't require a dozen side button binds.

If you don't already have one, you'll also want a good quality decently sized mousepad with plenty of extra room to use a moderate/lower sensitivity if that's something you'll find helpful.
Standard office sized mousepads leave you cramped for movement room and a lot of people using them end up using sensitivity way too high to compensate.
You can find good pads for around and under $10.

u/UndercoverGTR · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

Any chance of the Logitech G Pro going on sale in the next week or so? My G100s is dying on me. I would guess not since it's so new, but $70 for a mouse is a bit more than I want to spend right now.

Also, any other recommendations on lightweight 3-5 button mice for FPS?

u/Silent_Gamerz · 1 pointr/buildapc
  1. Modem: Buy it separately from your router. If you have 1Gbps (e.g. google fiber), then you need a DOCSIS 3.1 modem. Otherwise, you're find with DOCSIS 3.0 modems, which instantly cuts your costs in half. What matters is your number of down/up channels, which dictate your download/upload speeds. You'll need to look-up your ISPs supported modems, as many of them (e.g. Comcast) will mess with you, in that even though your modem may support insanely fast speeds, they won't let you use appropriately rated service packages with it and will auto-downgrade your speeds (or simply refuse offering you the service). This means getting "more than you need" is, in fact, "exactly what you need". Blame the ISPs. So, figure out your current/future download/upload speeds desired, then look-up your ISPs list of supported modems, then purchase the cheapest modem with the highest number of channels supporting it. You'll likely want to look at the DOCSIS 3.0 line-up from Motorola. The DOCSIS 3.0 24x8 will be plenty for anyone not on Google Fiber, frankly. Actually, it's almost google fiber speed rated, so even if you did use it, chances are you wouldn't even realize your mistake (a DOCSIS 3.1 32x8/16 is where fiber users should technically be at). Most would be fine with 16x4, but as the price difference is about $15, I'd consider the 24x8 a worthwhile future proofing, but my budget may differ from yours. And don't get roped into how DOCSIS 3.1 "beats out" DOCSIS 3.0 modems. The difference, if there even is any, is imperceptible. Also, if you use a cable company like Comcast, you'll also save on modem rental fees (as much as $20/mo) getting your own, so it will pay for itself. Also, make sure to check the error codes put out by your modem, after it has had a day to sit around and receive firmware updates (pushed by your ISP, unlike your router, which needs to be manually updated by you. #SecurityPSA). If they're high, or your numbers are experiencing unusual skew, then your coaxial cable (the wire connecting from your wall to modem) may have an issue, or there's an issue in your building's wiring (or neighborhood), building switch panel, or the wall-mount itself might be noisy. You can purchase a new coaxial cable and twist-on knob (I forget what this device is called) to lower noise going to/from your modem - the other problems require contacting your ISP.

  2. Mouse: DPI adjust-ability can be nice for pro gaming, but what you should really consider is ergonomics, frankly. Ergonomics aside (this is why I personally use a trackball mouse, which seems to amaze a lot of gamers - mine uses index finger to move, so my left mouse button is operated by my thumb), you should consider the refresh rate. Much like your monitor has Hz, so, too, does your mouse. Settings of 500, 1k, and 2k are common to find. most pro gamers use 500, else 1k. The higher you go, the lower the input lag, thus you can react faster. You might be wondering then, "why don't most pros use 2k?" Two reasons. First, the 2k Hz are often buggy, overclocked, problematic messes, whereas most the 1k Hz are stable (manufacturer dependent). Second, when going beyond 500 Hz, like to 1k Hz, you will experience visual stroboscopic effects. Depending on your eyes (and your monitor), this might not bother you. That's why some pro gamers do end up using 1k Hz mice. To see for yourself what I mean, check out the relevant [testufo stroboscopic page]( Personally, I do competitive FPS with a Logitech Marble Mouse, but after nearly 15 years, a new index-finger operated trackball with a scroll wheel, programmable buttons, and DPI adjuster has finally hit the market! So, I'll be trying out the Elecom mice. If you can't imagine playing with a non-thumb trackball mouse, I encourage you to give it a shot. Otherwise, checkout [mice pro FPS gamers use]( (e.g. [Logitech G Pro Gaming](, [BenQ Zowie EC2-B](, or [Razer DathAdder Elite]( Non-trackball mice aren't my area of expertise though, so there may be better choices out there to consider!

  3. Microphone: [Audio-Technica's 2020 USB+]( cardiod is great, although it will pick-up a lot of ambient noise in a room that isn't acoustically cared for. It's relatively lightweight and fits well in most shock mounts and boom arms. It also sells with specially fitted wind shields (akin to a pop filter), which are much sleeker (less in your face), remove more p-losives (compared to most nylon and metal pop filters), and is far superior in removing ambient high frequency noises (e.g. ceiling fans and keyboard/mouse clicking) (on account of it being form-fitted. They're also the cheapest around \~$10. However, a similar priced microphone that sounds more neutral and picks-up less ambient, would be the Blue Yeti (and if you're thinking of getting the "Pro", then save your money and just get the AT 2020). It's a pretty good microphone in its own right, although getting a shock mount and wind shield to fit it is problematic (and expensive). It's also extremely heavy, so most (even >$100) boom arms can't properly support it. Lastly, there's the Blue Snowball. Its quality is pretty good and there are streamers out there using it, although many seek out the two aforementioned microphones. Nonetheless, it's still quite good, extremely lightweight, and runs the cheapest of all three. It's also very-very small compared to the others, so if you're skipping a boom arm, then it will be the best fit on your desk! Anyway, with respect to the Audio-Technica, a good shock mount (e.g. [Rode PSM1]( and good boom arm (e.g. [Rode PSA1]( are good ideas, but expensive. And again, a good wind screen (e.g. [VocalBeat's acoustic fitted foam](

  4. Keyboard: Mechanical keyboards are my preference, given tactile feel/responsiveness. For silence, you'll want to consider Cherry Red Silent, red, and brown (in that order). For gaming (lighter pressure & shorter travel distance), you'll want to consider Cherry Speed Silver, Cherry Red Silent, red, and Cherry Black Silent (in that order). For those sharing both these priorities, it really just comes down to the Cherry Red Silent and Cherry Speed Silver. The former is 30% quieter than the standard red/brown, which makes it VERY quiet (it also is better for gaming). The Cherry Speed Silver is the best for gaming, EXCEPT it's so loud, that people have reported people over Discord complaining about hearing it. In my opinion, if it's distracting your teammates, then that's actual going to hurt your gameplay. As such, the Cherry Red Silent wins (being the next best "gaming" and most silent MX board). For more details, see [here]( As for the manufacturer, I've not yet finished researching the matter, although Ducky receives very high user reviews. As for Corsair (who first created the Cherry Red Silent MX's, in tandem with Cherry), their RGB backlit keyboards are a definite no-go. Why? Numerous user reviews state the software must be run on the PC for lighting effects to work. This wouldn't be so bad, except that numerous reviews have indicated it consumes \~500 MB of both system RAM and GPU memory! And while you can close out the program, this will disable all RGB lighting/effects!
u/KaitRaven · 1 pointr/starcraft

It looks like the G Pro is their intended successor. Similar design but a bit more features/precision. I've actually always used fairly bulky mice but I am starting to think I need a smaller, lighter one since my wrist is feeling a bit worse for wear lately...

u/Yuyubop · 1 pointr/MouseReview
u/thefallinleaf · 1 pointr/buildapc

Here's the wireless one:

Both models are solid either way.

u/xelamats · 1 pointr/gaming

Check out this mouse:

It's from Logitech and a lot of people I know have used it for a very long while with no issues. I do not have it personally but I thought I would recommend you to look into it as it is 40$ right now.


If you are looking for a CSGO mouse that will guarantee you the most precise aim you can get from a mouse, this is another logitech mouse that is absolutely amazing and has one of the best sensors on the market currently:

It is Wired/Wireless (wired is cheaper, wireless is more). It is 80$ though so it'll be 30$ above your budget. All up to you :)

u/rickra · 1 pointr/buildapc

Might be a bit expensive for this use case:
Logitech G403 Prodigy Wireless Gaming Mouse with High Performance Gaming Sensor

u/Cheabs · 1 pointr/buildapc

I've Just recently bought a Logitech G403 Prodigy and so far I love it! Very simple design with some "cool RGB" if you're into that.

u/Psychemm · 1 pointr/buildapc

It's not as bad as it seems. At one point I bought a $30 wireless keyboard when my old laptop's keyboard broke and I was a complete noob at computers. It was perfectly fine for playing games, even ones that required more intensive action or reactions.

Definitely don't go my route if you want something a bit more competitive, but if just for typing, there are a lot of options around this point and higher price points. You won't find many suited for gaming though, so you'll mainly be typing on them. Anything more suited for gaming though, you'll have to go wired to find a decent keyboard.

Same goes for mice, but there are more options for gaming in the wireless category, you'll just have to pay the premium. Here's an example. The Prodigy is a decent gaming mouse compared to wired gaming mice, but you'll have to pay more.

u/chouetteonair · 1 pointr/MouseReview

You might have seen this already, but people were discussing the issue on Super User. To sum it up, coil whine is the suspect in this case and they suggested a few potential solutions.

> Short power drain procedure

  • Remove the battery of the mouse

  • Press and hold the left and right click buttons for 15 seconds.

  • Release the buttons and place the battery back properly. If possible, replace the old ones with a new single AA NiMH rechargeable battery.

  • Check if the mouse will feature the same coil noise.

    I don't know what kind of batteries people have tested this mouse with, but this looks like a start.

    EDIT: Just going to throw out the G403 wireless as well if you want a more conventional shape at a higher price, I've heard some good things about the wired version in gaming contexts.
u/flyingmitchell3 · 1 pointr/buildapcsales
u/C0dEEzY · 1 pointr/gaming

I have the Logitech G403 Gaming Mouse, Ive never played Overwatch but it works amazing in PubG and Fortnite.

Logitech G403 Wireless Gaming Mouse with High Performance Gaming Sensor

u/IAmGeranimo · 1 pointr/buildapc

Logitech G203 Prodigy RGB Wired Gaming Mouse - White

u/texticles · 1 pointr/battlestations

this is mine. It's done me good so far- had it for about a year

u/FallenTF · 1 pointr/pcgaming

I've bought that mouse before. It had tracking issues, some kind of interpolation and not 1:1 pixel jump.

If you must go cheap, this one (or another E-3lue mouse) isn't bad but cheapest I'd really recommend is an entry level Logitech like the 302 or the G203.

Inb4 mods delete the thread and tell you to go to /r/buildapc (dumb rule is dumb). To be fair, they usually leave the threads up long enough to get an answer though which is nice.

u/Pontus_Pilates · 1 pointr/MechanicalKeyboards
u/Giantsharktooth · 1 pointr/MechanicalKeyboards it's a logitech g pro but with a better (non-braided) cable and a logitech sensor

u/maddxav · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

The Logitech Prodigy G203 could be what you want.

u/Craiger23 · 1 pointr/buildapcsales

> g203

googled g203, amazon returned a result 29.50

if you want the white version its 26.95

, and also recommended for 13.99

all 3 have a promotion to knock 5 dollars off if "Eligible customers get a $5 bonus when reloading $100."

Does the corsair m65 have the PMW 3310-89 sensor? Apparently Yes, its typcially 50 dollars with refurb ones on corsair site occasionally 35. So imo this holds up for price, although the corsair has a awesome design but prob not worth 25 - 30 bucks. If the software holds up.
The Logitech
G203 Prodigy RGB Wired Gaming Mouse – White
for 26.95 is a really good deal vs the corsair m65 for 45-50$

u/DraynedOG · 1 pointr/buildapc

Ok, you should try wireless, it's amazing. Here is a list of my top pics.

GPRO Wireless: Literally the best gaming mouse I've ever used, I have nothing bad to say about it. It is perfect and should be cherished.

G502 Lightspeed: Most similar on this list to the mamba in terms of size and weight, has a ton of buttons. There is a G502 hero which is a wired version and is currently the best selling mouse on the market. Really good.

G305: Smaller than its big brother the GPRO Wireless, but still hugely popular and well respected, No rechargeable battery in the box however, it used a AA battery. Battery life is like 200+ hours tho.

Mamba wireless: If you really like your mamba, here is a good option for wireless. I havent used it but it seems pretty popular for razer fans.

almost all these mice have wired version that are identical/lighter exceptt the GPRO wireless. If you don't want to spend so much you could look into those. Happy clicking!

u/E-Man1864 · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace
u/NotFromReddit · 1 pointr/southafrica
u/devlon1 · 1 pointr/classicwow

I just bought the G502 lightspeed , so far so good. We’ll see how it plays tomorrow. I never liked the mice with 20 small buttons all grouped together. My fat thumbs hit to many buttons at once.

u/The-guy-behind-u · 1 pointr/pcmasterrace

Mouse: G502 lightspeed

Keyboards: Duck Viper v2, Duck Blackbird, LZ-ST
imgur link