Best sporting optics mounts & rings according to redditors

Obligatory You need the .83" UTG mount to cowitness the TRS-25 on an AR

The cheaper version: https://smile.amazon.com/UTG-Med-pro-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TX2BD4

The lighter/nicer version: https://smile.amazon.com/UTG-Super-Slots-Picatinny-Riser/dp/B01CKYYH16

Same sight is $20 cheaper at PSA right now: http://palmettostatearmory.com/bushnell-ultra-compact-red-dot-731303.html

If you really wanted the riser it's $10 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TWZG4G

Amazon had the version with the riser for something like $65 a few weeks ago, and PSA had just the sight for $60 a few weeks ago.

If you're in the US, you've got Evike, AirsoftGI, Amped Airsoft, and Airsoft Atlanta. There's probably more, but those are my go-tos.

For guns, I'd recommend CYMA VFC-clone AKs (CM040s, 045s, and 048s), G&G Combat Machines, or Classic Army Skirmish line. It really depends on your budget though. If you can go higher, I'd suggest doing so.

All I'd suggest to start with are a battery/charger, and some extra mags. If you don't like iron sights, get a red dot like a field sport with a riser. A foregrip, like one from PTS might be nice as well. A sling might be nice as well. I'm a big fan of my LBX Sling. I'd definitly recommend trying your gun before buying anything.

definitely worth considering a 1-4x scope if you are spending over a few hundred dollars. you can shoot both eyes open, you have variable power for mid-range shooting, and this Leupold VX-2 cost slightly less than EOTech 512 and weighs slightly less.

Edit: Red dots do have some advantages, especially if you are almost exclusively shooting at under 100 yards. But I find that most people that shoot targets, three gun, and hunt, are as well or better served by low power, variable optics.


if you are really worried about "co-witnessing" and you are worried about your optic going down and not being able to switch quickly to irons (or dropping hunting or at the range or some improbable scope, breaking shenanigan of a situation) then get a quick detach mount.

Nah. You can get a police trade in 92F/FS/G (the G will probably be a bit more expensive because decocker only is pretty popular) for probably $500 or less.

https://coppercustom.com/beretta-92fs-le-trade-in-beretta-92fs-leo

Then you have your choice of grips.

https://www.dsgrips.com/Samurai-Edge.html

For about $20 you can get a rail adapter if you can't find a 92 with a rail.

https://www.amazon.com/NcStar-Beretta-Accessory-Adapter-MADBER/dp/B0058DC520

For a little more than $100 you can get a great quality light from Streamlight.

https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-69110-Weapon-Tactical-Flashlight/dp/B000JWD16E

The most expensive parts would be a threaded barrel, suppressor, and tax stamp for the suppressor transfer.

https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/barrel-92fs-blk-assy-threaded-black-threaded-bbl/jb92th/

https://www.silencershop.com/silencers/pistol/silencerco-9mm-osprey.html

But You don't need those last two to make a good Samurai Edge clone. Or the light really. You just need a police trade in 92F/FS/G and a set of grips which can potentially be far below $550.

Aero Precision Ultralight 30MM Scope Mount, SPR

No problem, it's this one.

Everyone else who responded is right. Just wanted to tell you the cheap route I went on the wife's. I do not regret it.

1. buy this gun
   
2. buy a black version of: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N8JV9A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
   
3. buy a black version of: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000V2MQE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
   
   180 + 50 = 230.
   
   It isn't the best setup, but just about everyone on the range will know exactly what you are shooting from rifle to glass since these are the most popular of each out there.
   
   I chose the raised mounts because they still allow me to use the "iron sights" for appleseed events.

The OP mentioned a scout mounted scope, which is usually put on rifles like this. Not good for ARs since you'd have to put it on the handguard which moves independent of the barrel/receiver (unless they are monolithic). Pick up one of the 1-4x options (Cross fire II is a good price) and an Aero SPR mount.

Rifle stuff:

• Get a bundle of regular chamber flags, like [these]. There's no reason to spend that much on a chamber flag.
  
• I'm a big fan of Holosun Red Dots, especially the motion activated circle dot (EoTech style reticle) models like the HS503GU. The smaller dot definitely helps with longer range-small target shots.
  
• If you're going to stick with the TRS-25 (I've competed with one myself), go for the tall riser rather than the medium. Many competitors are moving to 2.04" optic mounts for a more upright head position, the one you linked works out to be 1.54". [Link]
  
• The fancy charging handle is somewhere between nice-to-have and pointless. It all depends on whether your local clubs stage guns hot/cold, and whether you have to drop the mag and clear the chamber before dumping the gun. The 4 clubs I shoot at all have different rules for this.
  
• I would skip the MS4 sling and the QD end plate. Single point is good in very specific circumstances, which don't exist in 3gun. Save the cash, and get an MS1. Note that you will rarely need or use a sling in 3gun. 2gun/combat type matches generally require one however.
  
• Don't buy a BAD lever. Consider the PDQ bolt catch, or another option if you need to manipulate the bolt catch from the right side of the rifle. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4cwMNIogZ4
  
• If you don't already have a bore snake and a cleaning rod, I would pick up both. Bore snake for simple bore maintenance, and cleaning rod to pound out a squib. If you shoot enough, you will eventually get a squib.
  
• You will want to buy a handful of mags. Stick with PMAGs, there's no real reason to get anything else.
  
  Pistol stuff:
  
  
• That holster may not work well with that belt. I would get an ALS version with mid or low ride mount. Or get a purpose made friction only holster. I use a 6930ALS mid ride-light bearing with a G19.
  
• I have the same pistol mag caddys. No complaints from me, but if you really want to be competitive from the start, you may want something that allows adjustment for better indexing. Someone else will be able to recommend them for you.
  
  Shotgun:
  
  
• Opening up the loading port will help, without a doubt.
  
• That shell caddy is really nice. I personally use Taccom caddies due to their price.
  
• Skip the fancy chamber flag
  
• Might be worth looking into Taccom's match saver [link]. No opinion one way or another. Note that match saver's tend to be consumable items, as dumping the shotgun after using the match saver will sometimes break it.
  
  Transport Equipment:
  
  
• You will get really annoyed carrying around your gear, ammo, snacks, and water. There's a reason that carts and wagons are so prevalent. I personally use a $40 collapsible wagon from Walmart, because I can't fit anything bigger in my car.

Aero precision ultralight

ULTRALIGHT 30MM SCOPE MOUNT, EXTENDED https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IB1V842/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_8H9QAb206B65S

Here's the new version of the UTG Mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKYYH16/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

.83 is absolute Co-Witness, 1" is lower 1/3.

I built this with the intention of doing 3-gun competitions. This is my first build, but I've been around here for years watching and reading. Also..I've asked some questions along the way. I've decided to make this thorough as a mofo as I know in my stalking I'd have enjoyed it!

Here are some previous posts to help guide me:

Building my first AR-15 with 3-gun in mind

[Update] Building AR-15 for 3-gun

Part | Selection
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Lower receiver| Spike Tactical stripped lower $115
Lower parts kit | Anderson Manufacturing Lower Parts Kit Minus Pistol Grip & Fire Control Group $29.99
Upper receiver | Spikes Tactical M4 Flat Top Upper Receiver $109.99
Trigger group | Geissele Super Dynamic 3-Gun Trigger $240
Grip | Hogue AR-15/M-16 Rubber Grip Beavertail with Finger Grooves $21.56
Charging handle| Vltor BCM Gunflighter Charging Handle, 5.56mm BCM-GFHA-4-4, BCM-GFH4 $47.65
Bolt| BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-AUTO-MP $178.95
Stock| Mission First Tactical Battlelink Minimalist Stock $49.99
Buffer spring| 25001 - Springco LLC M16 / AR-15 Chrome Silicon RIFLE Spring $27.50
Buffer tube | BCM Intermediate Receiver Extension (A5 Buffer Tube) $50.90
5.3 oz buffer| Vltor A5 Specialty Buffer A5H2 $40.46
Slap plate| ikickhippies Sling Loop Ambidextrous Plate $22.50
Adjustable gas block| SLR Rifleworlds Sentry 7 Set Screw AGB $127.94
Gas tube| Melonite Gas Tube, Midlength $15
Barrel | 16" 5.56 Government Profile Midlength AR 15 Barrel, Modern Series $165
Hand guard | ALG Defense Ergonomic Modular Railed Handguard -V3 13" $154.49
Muzzle break | SJC Titan Compensator $97.95
Optics | Vortex Viper PST Gen II 1-6x24 SFP Riflescope $664.05 (had a coupon)
Scope mount | Aero Precision 30MM scope mount $63.52

Total for gun parts: $2222.47

Tools/Misc | Price
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ALG Barrel nut wrench| $6.49
Lower vice block | $19.99
Upper vice block | $29.99
AR-15 armorer wrench | $45.00 (random one at my local gunstore)
8" 2mm Ball Driver | $19.45
Packets of anti-seize for barrel installation | $3 (Sample packets at my local advanced auto)
Walkers Razor hearing protection | $40.11
Gunsmith work to dimple/drill for AGB pin/set screws | $60.00
Paying to have local gunshop check headspace | $35.00

Total for services/parts to assemble gun: $259.03

TOTAL COST: $2481.50

70 bucks prime on amazon all day, everyday.

https://smile.amazon.com/ULTRALIGHT-30MM-SCOPE-MOUNT-EXTENDED/dp/B00IB1V842

I would go with something designed for the AR platform that gets the scope out a bit farther so you can charge the rifle easily.

Like so

Needed an AR to get into 3 gun. Built one. Most people these days say at the entry-level AR price point to just buy a Ruger AR-556 or a Smith & Wesson MP-15 Sport. And I honestly don't see why when build kits are so cheap. For around ~$500 you can get one of the aformentioned guns. With a factory warrenty and support. But with a A post front sight, milspec furniture, and mil-spec trigger. Basically a plain jane AR in every way.

Or you can put together something with MOE furniture, a 13.5 Mlok rail, a cheap red dot, back up ironsights, a stainless steel barrel, and a upgraded trigger.

PSA upper so far has functioned flawlessly in the first 100rds it took me to function test and zero the sights and red dot. Fit and finish on the upper is just fine. And it seems to be just as accurate or not more for an AR in this price range. The EPT trigger included with the kit is pretty nice. Its probably a little under the weight of a milspec trigger. But it has nearly no travel, and a very clean and crisp break, with a short reset.

Bushnell TRS- 25 is a nice little budget red dot. They were a nice budget optic when I first put one on my Amazon wishlist 4 years ago. They were going for $80-100 back then. Now that they seem to be going for $35-45 dollars regularly it feels like stealing.

BCM Foregrip is really cool. I like the stubby compact grip, functions as both a handstop and a traditional VFG.

The whole build weighs in at 6lbs 12.9 oz unloaded.

Personally, I think this is a much better value than buying a cheap off the shelf AR.

A few notes. Prices are subject to change. I happened to snatch up the red dot at its lowest price available, but they often show up for around $40 or so.

Second I also built this of an 80% reciever because boogaloo. This obviously doesn't include the price of tools and the jig. But I could have just as easily used a $40 Anderson lower. Minus FFL fees because those vary.

Thirdly, this is representivative of what the average joe can build today. I hate seeing "budget builds" that start with people saying they used a once in a life time coupon and just happened to have half the build laying around in their garage. This isn't a gun thing either, every hobby has people like this. Also everyone seems to always have a "buddy" that is capable of doing some normally really expensive or complicated task for basically free. Not everyone went to kindergarden with some guy who just happens to be able to resurface the face of a engine block on their own dime Jim!. /rant.

Fourthly, I painted the reciever with truck bed liner. Don't do this. It goes on super thick, takes forever to dry as evidence from my smudge marks, and fucks up all the tolerances in the gun. But it does fit the spirit of the build. And the battle worn look is kind of cool, if it only fit the rest of the rifle.





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|PSA Mlok Rifle Kit|$399.99|Palmetto State Armory|
|Raw Cerro Forge Lower Reciever|$37.95|Right to Bear|
|Magpul Pmag w/ coupon code|$7.99|Palmetto State Armory|

Base Rifle Price : $445.93

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|Bushnell TRS-25|$36.99|Amazon
|Leapers MT-RSX8S UTG .83 mount|$10.51|Amazon
|Mlok BCM Gunfighter VFG|$18.95|Bravo Company USA

Total : $512.38

If your looking for a low cost silver 22lr scope then either of these would be good choices:

https://www.amazon.com/BARSKA-4x32-Plinker-22-Riflescope-Silver/dp/B001JJCHXE

https://www.amazon.com/Simmons-TruPlex-Reticle-Rimfire-Riflescope/dp/B0000V2MQE/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_200_lp_t_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9VKD83GTM054YKVVH7E9

I would not use the supplied scope rings though for the dovetail mount that the Marlins have a "one piece" mount will grip it a lot better and not move on you. For example a lot of people use this UTG mount:
https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Medium-Profile-Airgun-Mount/dp/B002TUSJVQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520903490&sr=8-1&keywords=utg+one+piece+scope+mount

Make sure to order the tube size and height you need for your particular scope / needs

Edit to add: Forgot one if you want variable power
https://www.amazon.com/Simmons-Truplex-Riflescope-3-9X32-Silver/dp/B000GU67VU/ref=pd_sbs_200_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000GU67VU&pd_rd_r=3M2Q0WZDMENFNMW8X9FW&pd_rd_w=oIWJF&pd_rd_wg=Cr1sG&psc=1&refRID=3M2Q0WZDMENFNMW8X9FW

Here's my completed LR 308 build. Parts list:

• Aero Precision M5E1 builder's kit - $307.00
  
• Aero Precision M5 lower parts kit - $65.25
  
• Aero Precision rifle buffer kit - $42.25
  
• Magpul PRS - $222.70
  
• Criterion Bull Contour 24" Stainless Steel barrel, match grade .308 - $263.96
  
• Spinta 308 SPV2 bolt carrier - $109.99
  
• Aero Precision .308 Ambidextrous Charging Handle - $71.99
  
• Wojtek Weaponry .936 Adjustable Gas Block + rifle length gas tube – $73.15
  
• Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24x50mm FFP MRAD - $359.10
  
• Magpul Rifle Bipod, M-LOK, Black - $104.11
  
• Aero Precision Ultralight 30mm Scope Mount - $73.12
  
• Vortex Optics Riflescope Bubble Level 30-mm - $ 33.68
  
• Vortex Optics Defender Flip Caps - $41.68
  
• Magpul PMAG gen 3 X10 - $189.50
  
• 1840 rnds of South Korean milsurp 7.62 x 51mm NATO ammo + 4 M2A1 ammo boxes - $900.64
  
• Magpul AR Armorer’s Wrench - $80-ish Coulda gotten this one cheaper but it was an impulse by at Sportsman’s Wearhouse.
  
  Grand total - w/o ammo: $2037.48
  
  I took it to the range today, a really nice one I found about 40 minutes north of here. I couldn't spend too much time adjusting the gas block, as that's considered a repair and they didn't want it happening on the line. I did adjust it a total of about three turns out, but it's still under-gassed. I'll have to keep going.
  
  I put 40 rounds through it on the 100 yard range and by the time I was wrapping up the second magazine I was pulling approximately 1 MOA groups of three, I wasn't using a very scientific approach, I was just trying to get it close while I started breaking it in. So I was just picking specific spots on the target and popping three rounds at them. I feel like it's a really good start for accuracy.
  
  Other than the under-gassing, I'm also getting really bad nicks in the extractor lip on my cases. They are pretty consistent, so I'm wondering if I might need to run an emery cloth over the extractor tooth to break in the edges. I wasn't sure so I thought I'd get your opinions.
  
  Anyway, it turned a few heads on the range, especially amongst the AR-15 crowd. My sons, who were with me, really liked the big boom and the fireball that came with it. The shock of firing was impressive, it really let you know it wasn't just a .223. It was very visceral, you could feel it in the depths of your chest. I liked it. I think I'll go out next weekend, too.

$60. https://www.amazon.com/Aero-Precision-ULTRALIGHT-SCOPE-MOUNT/dp/B00IB1V65I

I have these Weaver see through and Nikon 3x9 on a couple of 10/22s. Excellent combination. Rock solid. Can still use the open sights.

I found your charging handle for almost $10 cheaper. You could cut the cost of the charging handle significantly by getting a one-handed one. I used the exact same lower build kit for my first AR. The lower build kit does not come with any tools. You're going to need some tools, such as a Castle Nut Wrench and a punch set

This is kind of optional, but you're going to need a spacer if you want to use iron sights (or else the iron sights will be blocked by the red dot sight. The spacer also helps a great deal is making it more comfortable, so your head isn't awkwardly tilted, obviously this will depend on your eye height.

Don't get discouraged if this seems confusing, if all else fails, watch an ar15 building tutorial and everything will be much clearer. Here's another tutorial. Good luck.

Aero Precision 30mm scope mounts are on sale at Amazon for 57.00 and would be perfect for one of these.

https://www.amazon.com/ULTRALIGHT-30MM-SCOPE-MOUNT-EXTENDED/dp/B00IB1V842/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1509731097&sr=8-4&keywords=aero+precision+scope+mount+30mm&dpID=415lySqyQXL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

I love these mounts, lightweight, strong and affordable.

I meant why that riser. You could get one actually made for that dot that will look 100 times better, be lighter, and just be better.

https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Hi-Profile-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TWZG4G

Primary Arms MD-RGBII + Primary Arms Micro Dot Base Mount = ~$120

Sig Sauer Romeo5 (OOS online but sold in-store and can still be found for $129 online) = ~$120 - $129

Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 + .83 Height Riser = ~$64

You can also wait for the Memorial Day sales.

I've broken cheap mounts before. screws snap, they aren't in line, just bad all around. You don't want them to damage your optic, waste your time, or waste your ammo.

When I picked up an 'entry level' PEPR, I had already wasted $35 on a mount, $30 in gas, $50 in ammo, and 5 hours of my time from a UTG mount.

The waste and time alone would have paid for a much nicer mount than a PEPR, so in the end, I pissed away a lot of money on that poor first choice.

I still have the PEPR, and it is okay, but you have to pay attention to the torque on the screws holding it on because they will try to work loose over time.

My next mount was a 20 MOA ADM Recon mount ($160), which was QD. Not only has it been rock solid and has nice features, but you can feel in your hands how tough it is.

Aero makes a really nice mount for not too much money.

What is it you want in a mount? Light weight? Picatinny rings? Low cost?

My safe bet is usually the Aero:

https://smile.amazon.com/Aero-Precision-Ultralight-Standard-Anodized/dp/B00IB1V65I/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3TTRNAAGX5B35&keywords=aero+precision&qid=1568636515&sprefix=aero+pr%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-9

Lasers are only used with night vision, and messing with your cat. If you’re ballin on a budget, here are some good options for you.

Red dots:

HOLOSUN HS403C Solar Power Micro Red Dot Sight, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U2KMVCI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZpaHDbRH0V0EF

Sig Sauer SOR52001 Romeo5 1x20mm Compact 2 Moa Red Dot Sight, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C95I8N4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fqaHDbM4M8RCH

Vortex Optics Crossfire Red Dot Sight - 2 MOA Dot https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079BY7QMC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FqaHDb9P9FBNE


If you want a magnified scope like an Acog, Primary Arms makes the best for the price.

Primary Arms Silver Series Compact 3x32 Gen II Prism Scope - ACSS 5.56-CQB-M2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BOTJGIM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9raHDbFWVPQ8A

If you want something for longer ranges, LPVOs are awesome.

Vortex Optics Strike Eagle 1-6x24 Second Focal Plane Riflescope - BDC Reticle (MOA) with Sport Cantilever 30mm Mount - 2-Inch Offset https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K37MU52/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_AtaHDbMAP1GB1

Primary Arms Silver Series 1-6x24 SFP Rifle Scope (Gen III) Illuminated ACSS 5.56 \ 5.45 \ .308 Reticle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XD6G7K1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9taHDbC142280
You’ll ya e to get a scope mount for this one, so here that link. Aero Precision Ultralight 30MM Scope Mount, SPR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JVTD4EK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_SuaHDbJ2D4GYB

https://www.amazon.ca/UTG-Airgun-Medium-Profile-Integral/dp/B002TUSJVQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1501042439&sr=8-4&keywords=airgun+scope+mount

This one. The one piece base gives more area to hang onto.

Yes.

Vortex's website for the mount say 25-35 inch-pounds of torq.

Screws and bolts aren't quick detaching, this is an example of a QD mount.

It will work without a mask, yes, although it's just a rail riser. If you don't have to use your full mask, you can just remove the riser and use the red-dot on the base rail without any issues. That's the neat thing about using a rail riser, you aren't changing anything at all, really. Well, you are, but at the ranges typical of airsoft with a non-magnified optic, you aren't really changing anything.

Measure the exact height difference between your line of sight (NOT to your cheek, just line of sight) compared to without a mask, and then try to find a rail riser that approximately matches that height difference. The one linked is the 'medium' riser, at 0.83 inches. There's also a 1" riser (['high'] (http://www.amazon.com/UTG-1-Inch-13-slot-Hi-profile-Riser/dp/B003TWX8HS/)) and 0.5" (['low'] (http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Profile-Riser-Mount-slots/dp/B003LT3ISI)).

Bushnell Banner 1.5-4x32 - $72: https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Banner-Multi-X-Reticle-Riflescope/dp/B00J2RGBP0/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1492008155&sr=8-24&keywords=1-4%2Bscope&th=1&psc=1

Primary Arms AR15 Mount - $25: https://www.amazon.com/Primary-Arms-Basic-Scope-Mount/dp/B00GX670YO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492008330&sr=8-2&keywords=primary+scope+mount

TOTAL: $97

That's the best I could do on a decent optic and mount at $100. I doubt you'll find better in a magnified scope with a low range.

That said, you'd do yourself a favor by increasing your budget. It's not that the scope or mount I linked are bad, but noticeably better can be had for another $40 - $50.

Assuming you have $200 in Amazon gift cards, if you're looking to get rid of $199.98 you can get an MD-ADS red dot sight and its absolute or lower 1/3 co-witness riser. Normal pricing. I don't recall ever seeing these on sale.

*Here's a Maxpedition 8"x12" pistol soft case for your G34; it has elastic straps for 6 magazines. I have a 8"x10" (no longer listed) that fits a G17.

You can make this work.

As for the light, get a Streamlight TLR-1. You don't want a laser.

FYI there's a newer, lighter version of this mount (choose 0.83 for absolute cowitness, I believe).

Aero Ultralight is great, go with that. Currently [$68 on Amazon] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IB1V65I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_F2DbBb86971NN).

I just bought this Bushnell. It is a great little red dot, and tough as hell.

I also bought this cheap riser mount because I was putting it on at AR.

What's your purpose?

I've got this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UGIMNQ/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details on mine (with a riser, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TWX8HS/ref=oh_o01_s00_i01_details) and I've got no issues hitting an 8" plate @ 300y with my 20" AR.

I use this for my cheaper budget builds. Works fine. Gives a 1/3 co witness. I believe the medium gives absolute. May want to get something nicer if it's for a high end build though.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003TWZG4G/ref=pd_aw_sim_200_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41D4t%2BWp25L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C100_&refRID=06BXBY2NDFQXS63XE7K6

I have this scope mount on my M14 if that interests you. The rings are wider than the Matrix rebrand scope I have so I wrapped it in electrical tape and it sits well. a bit more secure than just one ring if you are interested.

The Bushnell TRS-25 with this riser. Works great, real steel quality too. For BB protection get this, you'll need to glue it on or shim it with teflon tape so it doesn fall off

I only got it yesterday but so far it seems pretty good. I was worried about it being way too bright for using indoors but after testing it that doesn't seem to be the case. I have this Magpul rail extension mounted on the front most M-Lok slot on the left side of the handguard, and have the light mounted to that. The pressure switch is actually on the top rail, just behind where my thumb naturally rests. So far that seems like a quick and comfortable setup to use.

Thats normal with cheap scopes, not suited for airguns - they got destroyed VERY quickly.
This scope utg 3x9 have bigger chances to survive on whisper
plus 1 piece mount

All interesting choices!
I have the Marlin 795 and I installed this cheapo mount for my glass:

https://www.amazon.ca/UTG-Airgun-Medium-Profile-Integral/dp/B002TUSJVQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1524225459&sr=8-3&keywords=utg+.22

Added a little blue loctite on the screws.

I'll do the best I can because I have no clue where I got the metal adjustable part from. It was just laying around in my spare parts drawer. You could probably use a long picatinny rail as replacement though. For mounting I used a buttoned cloth strap, A velcro strap and lots of tape but its pretty sturdy as of now.

Aim Sports Fore Grip($17): http://www.evike.com/products/53559/

Rapid Deploy Fore Grip($11): http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/2523-rapid-deploy-m249-bipod-foregrip-w-20mm-weaver-mount-tan.aspx

Cheapest Stock($20): http://www.evike.com/products/30280/

Riser Mount($16, you wont need this if you use picatinny rails): https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Hi-profile-Riser-Mount-Slots/dp/B003TWX8HS

Rail, maybe something longer($12): https://www.amazon.com/Sports-12X0-40-Inch-Uncut-Black-Medium/dp/B008NCH9X8/ref=sr_1_23?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1472694384&sr=1-23&keywords=picatinny+rail

To expand on what /u/Lost_Thought said, the link you included has the standard mount that will result with a very close mount, like this or this.

If you want it mounted to better co-witness with your iron sights, you will need a rise mount that will end up looking like this.

The medium riser will co-witness with your irons. The high riser will give you a lower 1/3 co-witness.

These are the only two items (sight and one riser) you would likely need to purchase.

A cantilever mount of some sort. A good budget option is Nikon P-Series rings.

This wouldn't be a terrible scope for an AR but I'd consider something a little bit smaller and lighter.

I'm pretty happy with these rings that mount directly to the receiver and have a window to still see iron sights with a mounted scope.

Weaver 1-Inch Steel Lock Mounts for Ruger 10/22 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N8JV9A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_umCEDbN5XFVB3

Getting a good cheek weld with a raised scope is difficult though without any riser.

Very nice sales pitch for the Tactical Sports.

Did some Googling around for ways to add a rail and actually found a response from CZ Customs: https://www.amazon.com/NcStar-Beretta-Accessory-Adapter-MADBER/dp/B0058DC520/ref=pd_sim_sg_3?tag=viglink128630-20

Very interesting. Would need to get a custom holster made for when I shoot the night shoots, but that's a problem for another day.

That makes me quite happy as I could go down the route of the Tactical Sports and might just end up getting this sucker: https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-cts-ls-sao-9mm-black.html

Which means less tweaking and work for me - which is awesome.

Thanks for the info, forced me to do more research. I'll probably be happier with this route.

I got these to try for dirt cheap

Weaver 1-Inch Steel Lock Mounts... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N8JV9A?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

They look good, but haven’t had a chance to shot them yet.

it will work fine low light, and you can get a riser if your mask blocks you from being able to see down it.

http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Hi-profile-Riser-Mount-Slots/dp/B003TWX8HS

Something like this but you dont need one that long really.


EDIT: This one could be good

http://www.amazon.com/Monstrum-Tactical-Medium-Profile-Picatinny/dp/B00M9JEBC8/ref=sr_1_9?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1459312029&sr=1-9&keywords=1+inch+riser

Magpul makes an MLOK light mount and separate rings. The kit will cost about $45. I think you can even get them on Amazon. Can't go wrong with Magpul. Other than that arson machine makes nice stuff, arisaka defense or Odin works are all respectable light mounts.
Edit: link on amazon scroll down for the kit rings you need for it total is 45.95.
https://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Light-Mount-Aluminum/dp/B00MRB09NI

https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Hunter-1-inch-Riflescope/dp/B003GSOKDG/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1539960097&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Vortex+rings&dpPl=1&dpID=41HiuAA9WRL&ref=plSrch

An NCStar one. It's not as great of a deal as it was when I bought it, the price has gone up by $20. I have it mounted on a Nikon scope mount, can't totally recommend this mount as it is a PITA to put on and take off.

Just wondering what the villages view on this cheap scope combo would be? It's going on a 300$ beater PSA AR so I'm not really trying to put nice glass or a Burris mount. Maybe on the next build.

Just let me know what everyone thinks. Main concern is keeping zero for when hunting.

https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-M-223-Riflescope-Picatinny-Rails/dp/B00BK4ISWC/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1536373913&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ar+scope+mount&dpPl=1&dpID=41bmS14tLDL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Circle-X-Reticle-Riflescope-1-4x32mm/dp/B00IYHG2LM/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1536374864&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=bushnell%2Bbanner&dpPl=1&dpID=31GA%2Bt4cuHL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

I have the same scope coming in shortly, I'm pairing it with the Aero 30mm SPR mount.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JVTD4EK/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_TdjSDbXNEEBDP

There’s a fulfilled by amazon used one like new for $59

here

A TRS-25 with a UTG High riser will give you lower 1/3 co-witness.

If you're in the continental US, I've got a spare TRS-25 laying around that you can have. You'll want to add a riser, but UTG makes a solid cheap one:

Absolute cowitness

Lower 1/3 cowitness

get this one its high quality and light weight

Seconded. But, u/Nonscrub if you cant pony up for the TRS, the Field Sport from amazon at $22 is the only other thing worth looking at in this price range.

Sight:

FieldSport Micro Red Dot Sight, Precision Red Dot Only No Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y3SZEJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_yzVTAb7YEJJA4

Then grab this riser to get it to the right height:

UTG Hi-Profile Compact Riser Mount, 1" High, 3 Slots https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TWZG4G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_lBVTAbARE0S5Q

If you do get the bushnell red dot definately get this with it UTG Riser

It will allow you to co witness with the irons. It's cheap and works just fine for the 22 (doesn't need to be bomb proof)

I have a similar rail and it provides great eye relief but I needed medium height rings for my Vortex Crossfire II to clear the rail in the rear. YMMV

UTG Super Slim Picatinny Riser Mount, 1" Height, 13 Slots https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019O40MLY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_CrGSzbEDNTA2A

I go a different way about it... Running a primaryArms microDot with a 1in UTG riser - I can peep thru the riser to easilly view the irons right thru it.

Riser - 3-slot Slim Picatinny Short Riser Mount 1" High, 3 Slots https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BI0I9AS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fxzWCbF9JPSJQ

0.83"

Leapers MT-RSX8S Inc, UTG Ss Picatinny Riser Mount, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CKYYH16/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3FkSCb9P11FRQ

I think this would be a good mount. Aero Precision makes good products. https://www.amazon.com/Aero-Precision-ULTRALIGHT-SCOPE-MOUNT/dp/B00JVTD4EK/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKYYH16/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I went with Vortex rings and the EGW extended rail on my 10/22. Working out great!

I have a set of these, a little loctite on the screw's and holds great. Plus can still use the stock irons..... It's a 10/22 so if you put 45° sights on it you will 100% look like a tacti-cool douche.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000N8JV9A/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1419902983&sr=8-2&dpPl=1&dpID=41Drun5VoiL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SX200_QL40

Two issues. Move your scope back onto the upper receiver only. Second get the standard m223 mount.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BK4ISWC/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1421221473&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DP26OUK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here is a picture of it with this bushnell.. I dont have a rail on my AR yet sorry.

https://imgur.com/a/t74vO

The mount feels very durable so far I can't wait to use it.

Showed you guys and gals my first rifle the other day, a Diamondback 5.56 w/ basic Magpul furniture. I received some feedback about the scope and the not so ergonomic position it was in, which is nothing I ever thought of, even with my face buried into the stock. Ordered a Primary Arms basic scope mount for 30mm sized tubes with 1” rings. The chinesium scope I had did not make the cut for the mount, which I’m pretty sure cost more than the scope itself, so I made the decision to invest in an optic that’s worth mounting. I’m very happy with how it looks, along with the most important part with quality of glass, distance, and overall clarity.

Mount:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GX670YO/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1525744208&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=primary+arms+scope+mount&dpPl=1&dpID=41e9uVJ-DrL&ref=plSrch

Scope: Vortex Crossfire II 2-7x32

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0106BYBPM/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1525744270&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=vortex%2Bcrossfire%2Bii&th=1&psc=1

Not op, but would this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003TWZG4G/ref=pd_aw_sim_200_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=44WEMY5M76K70FNY3N99&dpPl=1&dpID=41uJyz%2BdAsL work as well

If plinking is your major use, consider getting raised rings so you can still use the iron sights. See under the scope.

Also note that the standard recommended 3-9x scopes will add a lot of weight to a very light rifle. Can make long plinking sessions not as much fun. Add a rail and quick detach rings if you want the flexibility to remove it. Bonus with rails is you get lots more options on optics like red dots, etc.

Also, check if your scope is 1/2 1 inch or 30mm before buying mounts like I just linked.

You and I both know that this isn't the only thing stopping me from doing this.

But- I look into it. Looking at risers I found these two.

https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Med-pro-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TX2BD4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518456817&sr=8-1&keywords=UTG+riser

https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Hi-Profile-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TWZG4G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1518456817&sr=8-2&keywords=UTG+riser

Best bet to wait for the sight to come in and measure? or is there a standard size for these?

Something like a SPR style mount mount would fit nicely. I'm not too familiar with repros since I mainly use real steel stuff.

Going from basic rings to a decent mount will do wonders.

So I am going to start at my local indoor range, which only has 25 yard rifle lanes. Right now money is tight and I've already spent too much on myself during Christmas season, I ended up buying Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight Riflescope, 1 x 25mm (tilted front lens) and UTG Hi-Profile Compact Riser Mount, 1" High, 3 Slots to start with and get some experience. In the future if this red dot doesn't do it for me I will go for something in the $200 range.

I really wish I could use iron sights but as /u/nuffin_stuff wrote... "The QRC has the shaved FSB. Nothing to attach a forward sight to." so I don't even know how I would get irons on this gun.

Do you want iron sights or a scope? If you want iron sights, check out the NODAK sights or Tech sights. If you want a scope, check out the Simmons 511039. It's very popular for 10/22 and is extremely cheap. Here's the link to the Simmons: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KOSB34/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_njKbAb6AAGJT6

I run both the Simmons scope and the NODAK sights on mine using these mounts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N8JV9A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_BnKbAbDBH69DE

yes.

save yourself the headache of rings, buy this:
https://www.amazon.ca/UTG-Airgun-Medium-Profile-Integral/dp/B002TUSJVQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1509544840&sr=8-5&keywords=utg+scope+mount

the dovetail on the marlin 795 is sorta shallow, I mounted my scope with the cheap rings it came with and after a couple hundred rounds it had slid back half an inch, ruining zero.

Switched to this mount, stayed solid for hundreds more rounds, survived a day of Mapleseed.

To mount it, just look on top of the receiver of your Marlin 795, you will see a sort of ridge or rail. That's an 11mm dovetail mount. Common on air rifles and .22's. Scope mounts slide on and you tighten the screws, similar to a picatinny rail, just without the slots, and narrower.

Actually, it' possible the PEPR directions may explain how to reverse the mount. My two piece Nikon mounts (http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-835-P-Series-Mount/dp/B00B5F02ZW) are entirely one piece, no removable parts on the base, and you can flip them or reverse them however you want.

Here is some info on people who have done it, /u/secutores

https://www.google.com/search?q=reverseing+a+pepr+mount&oq=reverseing+a+pepr+mount&aqs=chrome..69i57.9998j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

Why not just mount the scope rings on risers?

http://www.amazon.com/UTG-1-Inch-13-slot-Hi-profile-Riser/dp/B003TWX8HS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370635856&sr=8-1&keywords=ar15+riser

You need to source something better looking than that riser, or at the very least drop the magnifier, IMO.

https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Super-Picatinny-Riser-Height/dp/B019O40MLY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1474065856&sr=8-10&keywords=1+inch+riser+picatinny

Would probably look way better. But es pricey since you'd probably need 2.

Check out the Aero Precision SPR mount. A little more expensive but half the weight.

Try this for absolute cowitness... one reviewer indicated cowitness with magpul BUIS

Don't quote me but I believe the 1" high riser would give you a lower third cowitness

What is the significance of a riser? Also what is the difference between this and this other than the price difference. and lastly would it be possible to buy the original mount and grab this riser?

I have the RBG with [this] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WGZOGJI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_kMzsu8uk2Objo) mount. It works well for my needs.

I prefer the brightness adjustment knob where it is too. Being a lefty I can just reach up with my off hand and adjust if needed. Just my $.02

Field Sport Red Dot and a riser. As for foregrips, look for M LOK grips. I like the Aim Sports M Lok Grip on my G&G.

Burris P.E.P.R. QD Scope Mount 30mm w/Picatinny Tops (410342) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004VMLMVE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_l3G3Cb2VC9XC5

Is not the lightest mount but definatly strong.

No its on with both screws. its this mount https://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Light-Mount-Aluminum/dp/B00MRB09NI I sits forward beyond the rail

Would this riser work with this gun?

I want to eventually get a red dot and I use dye i4's.

Wow, that's pretty. Can I ask what the specs are?

Not sure what Reddit thinks about Nikon glass but here's something with some more magnification and a solid warranty:

Nikon Buckmasters II 3-9x40 BDC

or

Nikon Buck Master II Scope with BDC Reticle, 4-12 x 40mm

And a mount

So far, I'm looking at this mount and this scope

What do you guys think of the ones I linked ?

Other option is the Nikon branded ones https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Riflescope-Picatinny-Mount-Inch/dp/B00B5F02ZW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1491711882&sr=8-3&keywords=1%22+tube+scope+ring

However those 3rd party ones look really beefy.

My Vortex Diamondback has 3.1-3.5" of eye relief. Seems a bit on the short side, but generous enough I would think for 223. Most of the other scopes I was looking at were within 3-4 inches as well.

I'm not sure which mount to get, cantilever or scope rings. I know the height has to be pretty high just because the stock is in line with the receiver and not offset.

What do you think of one of these? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QITM3WK/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YFPNDOG/

Personal preference if you need the riser.

I do.

I went with a 1 inch. Lots of hate for cheap risers but I feel like as long as you use a good thread locker you're ok. If you use a quick disconnect and take it off often you could have zeroing issues. I had my TRS-25 zero'd @ 100 yards, took it off and then put it back on and it was still zero'd but you'll read stories about people with different experiences.

UTG super Slim Picatinny Riser Mount 1" High, 3 Slots https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BI0I9AS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_9riNzbNMMKDNA

That's the riser I have on a rifle with my TRS-25 right now and haven't had issues.

Frankly man, I like the TRS-25 and feel like it's a really good entry level dot but if you have the $ just go ahead and buy an EOTECH or viper.

I'm away from my computer but can look up a good deal on a viper for another $80 bucks if you want to wait a little bit and I'll link you to it.

Let me know.

FWIW, I picked up this one from amazon:

CCOP MNT-1516 High Profile AR-ArmourTac Rifle Scope Mount Rings for Picatinny Rail, 30mm for $28 and have been very happy with it.

Don't have a PEPR to compare it to side by side, but it's a little bulky...and a little heavy, but....if that's all the PEPR is, why not spend half the money and get the amazon one.

If you're going with a LaRue, or a Aero Precision, then that's a different ballgame.

https://www.amazon.com/Aero-Precision-ULTRALIGHT-SCOPE-MOUNT/dp/B00IB1V65I

My bad, I thought I hit reply and it made a new comment.

I don't think I'll be needing rapid detachment. This look like a good option for me?

I run it on a cantilever mount like this Burris PEPR. I got a slightly cheaper version from someplace but any cantilever mount should work fine.

I have only had time to take mine out shooting once and it held up just fine. The one I linked to on amazon has 4.5 star average over 752 reviews so it looks like hardly anyone else is having trouble with it either.

For absolute cowitness you would want the medium height here-- https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Med-pro-Compact-Riser-Mount/dp/B003TX2BD4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8

For 1/3 cowitness you would want the one I linked earlier-- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TWZG4G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$8.47 shipped:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TWZG4G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3Ds4DbP8BN7YK

you can get the non-railed version for the classic look and get a rail adapter like these grips or this rail adapter

Order this. I have had no problems with it. Works great. $33 free shipping with prime

CCOP MNT-1516 High Profile AR-ArmourTac Rifle Scope Mount Rings for Picatinny Rail, 30mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DP26OUK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MKTRzbX9JHZG3

For cheapness you can get a Fieldsport Micro Dot from amazon for $20 and a UTG Riser Mount. I do not recommend using these sights without a riser.

If you want to spend some actual cash on a really good optic I recommend either a primary arms T1 and riser or a [Holosun] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NC1G0KI/ref=dp_cerb_2). Dutch uses a Primary Arms but IMO the holosun is probably the best budget real steel optic on the market.

Since you're new to airsoft I suggest getting a cheaper red dot at first. This red dot is pretty good, only 20 bucks and has great reviews. For the height you should get a rail riser, like this.

Edit: also any normal red dot should fit on your rail system

I have one on my budget PSA AR build. I mounted it and haven't had any problems. The mounting bolts/nuts feel cheap but the actual mount is sturdy.

I would probably spring for a nicer mount if you are building a high end AR or a long range precision type rifle, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy it for a budget build or plinker.

There are a couple hundred amazon reviews: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B00DP26OUK/ref=mw_dp_cr

Not quote under $30, but I bought this one for an AR: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QITM3WK

It's just for plinking, and kind of a parts gun, but it has held on pretty well.

I got one of these. Haven't mounted the optic and shot with it yet but reviews are good and its hard to beat that price.

For the difference in price I'd go with the Aero ultralight mount. $75 all day for around half the weight. 3 oz isn't a lot but the ounces really add up when they're stacked awkwardly on the top of your gun.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JVTD4EK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517512502&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=aero+ultralight+30mm

Keep in mind you'll probably want to get a riser for it to get a proper cheek weld.

Thanks, as mounted it did seem low. Is this OK? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WGZOGJI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2D46XDRFDU1C8&psc=1

It is a Burris Fastfire III. Initially, I planned to get the cowitness mount from cz-custom for true co-witness.
https://czcustom.com/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1/evo-custom-parts/cz-scorpion-evo-rail-mount-ff3.html

Out of the box with the factory low mount (pictured), you can sort-of get a lower 1/3 cowitness... but getting a cheek-weld on the blade brace was challenging. So I scrapped that idea.
I started experimenting with this mount : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BI0I9AS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It allows use of the factory sights through the mount and gives a good height for the Fastfire with a cheek weld. Not sure if it's the final solution yet.

This one? Did you mean co-witness was low?

For air through stock, you will need the Blizzard air through stock kit through MCS since it's proprietary to the gun. As for a good riser, I went with this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019O40MLY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. It's rock solid and it's the perfect size for my sight. However, when it comes to barrels and covers, l've heard that Hammerhead barrels are very good but that's it. My Blizzard will be seeing the field for the first time this weekend.

jesus. should i hop on it? Just built an ar with iron sights only HNNNNNNG do want


edit: ok i bought it and this mount https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QITM3WK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

sure, I ordered this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKYYH16/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B5F02ZW/ref=pd_aw_fbt_200_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RYC5TNVNSG04J3MZG4A1

Here is the mobile version of your link

1. Yes
2. Rings are https://www.amazon.com/CCOP-MNT-1516-Profile-AR-ArmourTac-Picatinny/dp/B00DP26OUK
Scope is a Vortex crossfire 2
3. Yeppers
4. Yes, same ammo, same batch, bad grouping. Tried different ammo, same result.
*5. Even tested with a shooter who regularly removes groundhogs at 1500yds, bad grouping.


I can garauntee you the fault is nowhere but the scope or the scope mount. The scope mount is cheaper, but holds the scope solid and is at proper torque.

Nikon P-Series Riflescope Picatinny Mount for 1 Inch Tube https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B5F02ZW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_L9URzbMTS9H7R

Nikon M-223 Riflescope Picatinny Rails Mount for 1 Inch Tube https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BK4ISWC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_p.URzbR4M6HEQ

I had the exact same problem as you. The best thing to do is buy the UTG airgun mount ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002TUSJVQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1501040671&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=utg+airgun&dpPl=1&dpID=41MDJhdhg3L&ref=plSrch ). For some reason normal dovetail rings dont like to grip the 795 so they start to slide back after a while, as you mentioned. So you have to use one of these types of scope mounts that squeezes the entire dovetail, so that you have enough traction to hold the scope in place.