Best tower computers according to redditors

Alright, maybe they aren't, but what you're doing to profit off of users is bullshit. The "featured PC of the week" that users can shop for on your site? There's an identical one on Amazon with the exact same specs, photos and everything, for $100 less- not only are you making users think the PC on your site is a better deal than Amazon's identical model (even if CYBERPOWERPC gives you a different meaningless model number) at $100 more, but you're taking Amazon's profit margin and adding on top of it all for you to keep yourself as profit.

What's even worse is that there's another prebuilt linked with this one, that is both cheaper and much better : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B01EUC7LWI

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

here's the correct link

I would not go with a cpu that came out in 2012. Probably cheaper to go with a prebuilt. Will get you a better video card as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor | $154.49 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $56.98 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $87.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $46.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card | $214.98 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $36.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $49.99 @ SuperBiiz
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $89.89 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter | TP-Link - TL-WN881ND PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter | $18.98 @ Amazon
Keyboard | Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard | $8.49 @ Target
Mouse | Logitech - G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse | $24.89 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $810.16
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $790.16
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-19 11:50 EST-0500 |

Well, I buy from Amazon so you deal directly with Amazon's policies (which are great). And Cyberpowerpc model that I bought has great reviews (although mine is the late 2016 model). I haven't had any ussue and love it. But because this computer was my entry into VR, I've now upgraded to a ssd and GTX 1080ti ftw3 (b4 the price inflation) to really push that VR angle.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Black - VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_epENAb1CF38PG

If Amazon doesn't work for you then I'd consider Costco. All their computers come standard with 2 year service warranties and a 90 days return window. This policy applies to all brands they sell (from Cyberpowerpc, ASUS, Dell, hp Alienware).

Costco awesomeness story:

Seriously Costco is awesome when it comes to their customers and backing their products. Here's a true story that happened to me. I bought an early gen LCD Sony TV. After about 4 years it developed a strange blue and yellow color to it's display, just looked terrible. There were class actions against Sony for this issue so I called Sony to see what they'd do. While Sony didn't admit fault, they said they give me 1/2 off a new Tv, but I needed the receipt. Went to Costco to get my copy of my receipt and I told them why i was doing it. Not only did Costco give me a brand spanking new Sony 60 inch led tv that day that I walked out with, but it was nicer than the tv Sony themselves was offering. Ever since then I've freaking loved Costco.

If that 500% is supposed to be 500$, you might want to reconsider (if you're in the US). Here's a brand-new machine, with much more modern components, in a similar price range: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY

That's assuming you already have a monitor, though. On the other hand, if you're really hurting for one, used monitors aren't crazy hard to find cheap. It's a question of whether you're willing to risk buying what amounts to a bunch of used components that might be at the end of their lifespan, or you'd rather just splurge a bit and get new ones.

this HP sold by VIP outlet is always around 530 (refurb), with the exact same specs. so while this Omen is a good deal it isn't hard to find https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all

>$1500-$2000 in PC you need.

Thats not true.

Examples: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1526564069&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+pc

https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Gaming-ST-SHADOW-II-002-Computer-Desktop/dp/B0771BZY8Z/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1526564069&sr=1-12&keywords=gaming+pc

I have seen even better deals but you can run VR for much cheaper then 1500-2000 dollars.

Link
heres a good one on amazon if you dont want to build one yourself

For the budget minded, there appears to be an HP build, Ryzen 5 2400g, RX 580 4gb, 8gb RAM, 1tb HDD for $480. Pretty sure I'm jumping on that. Don't really plan on doing any intensive gaming, but would like to start dabbling.

I'm sure I would look to add a 120 or 240gb SSD and upgrade to a faster 16gb RAM down the road, but won't need to be immediate for me.

Edit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-ZglDbSMZFNXY

Edit 2: I bought the HP, then tacked on a Crucial 8gb RAM stick for $25 on a lightning sale or whatever. Then paid $29 for Crucial 240gb SSD. So a total of $535 (plus tax) for that entire setup.

I know we like building here, but I was pushing a similarly specced build on pcpartspicker over $600, without windows or a k+m. I'll take the gamble on the HP board not being complete crap for that price.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

$670. probably best you'll get.

Looking at some of their products on Amazon I agree. They don't always go for i7s and pick more appropriate GPUs than some other prebuild PC companies. And when you factor in the cost of Windows they honestly aren't too outrageous pricewise compared to building it yourself.

Edit: proof
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481139989&sr=1-1&keywords=cyberpowerpc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KPPC4C

I just searched for "VR Ready PC" on Amazon and the first page has one for $720.

This one would not play it the greatest, everything is pretty weak. While I don't normally recommend a prebuilt, they are often overpriced, I do get that some people can't or simply don't want to build themselves. What I would suggest is upping your budget a bit and going for something like this one

If you do decide to try and build your own I can give you a hand with it as well as most people who have already commented, but that decision is on you. You will definitely get more bang for your buck.

iBUYPOWER Pro Gaming PC Computer Desktop Intel i7-9700k 8-Core 3.6 GHz, Geforce RTX 2070 8GB, 16GB DDR4, 1TB HDD, 240GB SSD, Z370, Liquid Cooling, WiFi Ready, Windows 10, VR Ready (Trace 9230, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_igolDbVQ6DJA1


Thoughts on this one boys? My brother has been holding out for a good prebuilt deal

Priced at $1199.99 down from $1649.99


Edit: Sale price stock is sold out now

This pc looks pretty good, it has a deepcool cpu cooler, while not the best in the universe is far better than the intel stock cooler they usually put in prebuilts.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073RKHY2H/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B00IMOND82


This is my mouse, it's pretty awesome
It'll probably fit you well

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019OB663A/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1510113202&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Logitech%2Bg502&dpPl=1&dpID=41xxUrMt7nL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1



Here's a really good keyboard if you don't have one already


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019O8YZ4A/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1510113382&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Red+dragon+vara&dpPl=1&dpID=41CU8eiwCwL&ref=plSrch

Over $100 cheaper on Amazon.

Dell i5675-A933BLU-PUS Inspiron 5675 AMD Desktop, Ryzen 5 1400 Processor, 8GB, 1TB, AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB GDDR5 Graphics, Recon Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_a8KGAbNVSYR54

This looks like a great budget monitor. Just bought this computer for $1,099 (flash Black Friday sale). Might pair it with it.

Proper link

I've been unable to find any sort of proper part list. Back of the envelope calculation - $300 CPU, $400 GPU, $150 RAM, $100 board, $50 HDD, $80 SSD, $20 wifi adapter, $20 cooler, $50 PSU, $30 kb/m combo, $100 windows licence, $50 case - suggests that it's fine for the price. You may want to replace the PSU after you get it, so that's some additional cost, and generally all unlisted parts should be treated with caution.

It is but not nearly as significantly. Companies that make pre-builds likely have long-standing relationships with component sellers as they have bought thousands and thousands of parts for their builds. One year of crazy demand won't change their prices nearly as much as your average consumer just buying one card.

Here's one pre-built I found that's $780. They list a few components you can price check: just the card, RAM, CPU and HDD would run you $649 separately. Still need a power supply, operating system, tower, keyboard, mouse, motherboard, optical drive.. this build should save 200-300 dollars easy.

Definitely could vary though.. so I'd check the components on each pre-build to be sure.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

these ones come with hard drive LOL

Not on Newegg but this one is pretty good for $700.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/

Not to mention you could buy the RTX 2080 separately and still come out ahead. And that's before selling the RX 580.

Is this prebuilt worth its price? iBUYPOWER Pro Gaming PC Computer Desktop Intel i7-9700k 8-Core 3.6 GHz, Geforce RTX 2070 8GB, 16GB DDR4, 1TB HDD, 240GB SSD, Z370, Liquid Cooling, WiFi Ready, Windows 10, VR Ready (Trace 9230, Black)

$1,199

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-i7-9700k-9230/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=cm_cr_srp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Is this pre built worth it’s price? CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A7 Gaming PC (Intel i5-9400F 2.9GHz 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_hhilDbC34D2Y6

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A7/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1568600501&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyTFBKVzBRVEJQNFlVJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjE5MzE4MVQyMEgwNDY0UldLSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDI3ODU0MlA0WDdERVpBRjY1JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

for just a little more money, you get a better processor, a better video card, a SSD plus a 1TB hard drive. BUT, you need to increase the memory to 16GB yourself...

I'm a peasant still, almost completely absent from the master race. I have an XBox 360 and a laptop with integrated graphics. I'm saving up my next bit of money (I'm 15) for the following: https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B01M3UKNVD/ref=cm_rdp_product

Yes, it's a prebuilt. Please don't judge.

This just came an hour ago, lots of good reviews too. (have to have Prime though)

I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=od_aui_detailpages01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And I'm immensely pleased with it. Personal recommendation is find a prebuilt configuration from like Amazon or somewhere. Doing a custom build from them is more expensive than building it yourself, but a prebuilt is around the same. you get a solid keyboard and mouse from them too. I was on a budget of 1200, and I got a pretty shit monitor, but for the PC I run PUBG on Medium and Ghost Recon Wildlands on High both topping over 60fps. the only difference between mine and the one in the link is that I have an i5-7500 not an i7.

If you decide on prebuilt I'd recommend this

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR Gaming PC, Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 8GB DDR4, 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi Ready & Win 10 Home (GXiVR8060A8, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_bfYYDbWZSJ270

I know this is build a PC place but there is not really a subreddit to ask what pre-built is best deal. Have had laptop for 5 years so not sure on anything. So if this against rules just remove it. I am between 4 choices for pre-built and wanted to know what is at least above 60 fps and 1080p. And what would be the better choice.

1. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-9400f-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-1tb-hard-drive-240gb-solid-state-drive-black/6362980.p?skuId=6362980
   
   2.https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-Tower-Intel-Core-i5-9400F-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1660Ti-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-690-0073w/902037635
   
   3.https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362427.p?skuId=6362427
   
   4.https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_D_466a83d5_64&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
   
   Any advice is apprenticed Thanks.

This is a pretty good deal:

https://slickdeals.net/f/11641671-dell-inspiron-5675-desktop-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-ddr4-1tb-hdd-rx-570-4gb-580-after-100-sd-rebate-free-s-h?src=catpagev2

If you want slightly better performance and a good warranty deal then this is an alright system:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1527733497&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop&refinements=p_36%3A50000-85000

or

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B077S27YLP&pd_rd_r=QFSRZXVQJKGGWAS9S6G2&pd_rd_w=rFvwd&pd_rd_wg=rg5xY&psc=1&refRID=QFSRZXVQJKGGWAS9S6G2&dpID=318W8FLYRhL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=detail

It is possible to get a good VR capable prebuilt-PC with an i7 and GTX 1070 for $1400/$1500, then the headset for between $250 to $600 depending on which you choose.

EDIT: Added link to PC.

I would go with this instead

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1539875553&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=cyberpowerpc+rx+580&psc=1

on sale for 699, it's new, has a superior CPU, and a superior GPU, the two most important parts of the system.

Lacks an SSD, but SSDs are only $40 dollars these days, so you can easily add it yourself (just buy a SATA3 cable to connect to motherboard), and install windows 10 onto it.

For gaming, especially just fortnite types of games, 8GB of RAM is plenty.

If you want to buy the local PC, maybe show him this amazon deal as a bargaining tool, and tell him to bring that deal down to $550, then I think it'd be more worth it.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=sr_1_3?crid=29IK4QLFUF0MA&keywords=rtx%2B2070%2Bdesktop&qid=1559172462&s=gateway&sprefix=rtx%2B2070%2Bdes%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-3&th=1

This pc is same price but better do to overclockable cpu and a board that supports it

if you can stretch 50 bucks this would be better

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=sr_1_3?crid=29IK4QLFUF0MA&keywords=rtx%2B2070%2Bdesktop&qid=1559172462&s=gateway&sprefix=rtx%2B2070%2Bdes%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-3&th=1

At least a GTX 1050, would be better if you could go for a GTX 1050 Ti. At least 8GB of ram. An i5 processor should be more than enough too, unless you're planning to play other games... but even then, it probably could get by but if it's just Sims 4 you're playing, you'll have no problem.

Other than the GTX 1050, if you're not bothered by the amount of vram, the GTX 1060 3GB is another choice. But just for The Sims 4, 3GB Vram is more than enough, but it also doesn't hurt to go for the 6GB because it's more future proof.

I currently have the GTX 1660, and it performs closely to the GTX 1070. That is another good card for a reasonable price. It also just came out this year.

Any of these specs should be able to run The Sims 4 on High/Ultra settings with most/all expansions/games/stuff packs

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A7/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gaming+desktop&qid=1566267956&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=gaming+desktop&qid=1566267956&s=gateway&sr=8-9

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Gaming-Computer-Desktop-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDZPXV/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gtx+1060+desktop&qid=1566268507&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Your best bet is the first one

I don't know much about AMD so don't come for me sksks. But I think the RX 570 and RX 580 are close in performance to the GTX 1060/GTX 1660 and they're a lot more affordable compared to Nvidia, so you might want to look at that too.

The AMD Ryzen 3 2100 is more of a budget processor, it would play The Sims 4 fine, but if you're wanting to play other more demanding games too, look elsewhere.

1Tb HDD of space is the minimum I'd recommend. I've had The Sims 4 on an HDD before eventually switching it to my SSD and I haven't noticed much of a loading time difference, so it probably doesn't matter. But SSD would've made a huge difference in The Sims 3.

If it helps, these are my specs: it runs like a dream, and mind you I have like 20gb of CC.

Intel i7-8700 3.2GHz

16GB Ram

120GB SSD + 1TB HDD + 500GB External SSD

GeForce GTX 1660 Overclocked 6GB

I'd say it's a bit overkill *just* for The Sims 4, but I do run other games as well.

I'm not too knowledgeable, but I know a few basics. I hope that gives you somewhat of an idea. Hopefully someone who knows their stuff can chim in too :) good luck. I could be wrong in a few spots.

It's on the low side, but serviceable.
When it comes to value per dollar - it's not worth the money.

This one is much better, for the same price.

Comes without saying - if you build PC yourself, you'll save some money or be able to get better parts.

I don't think building is a good option for budget buys given the GPU price explosion (due to mining).

A prebuilt like this works... Look for i5/R5 and a decent card:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZZF7FY

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Blac https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_yuOqt9QqqCzFq

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Desktop-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

That’s probably one of the best choices for a prebuilt in your budget. I’d say use the rest of the money for a top of the line monitor and good peripherals.

Wondering what people think about this, especially in relation to this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075VSBNQZ/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Obviously the second one is a significantly more powerful machine, and probably even a decently better savings over this one, in terms of savings per part, but this seems like the real winner in terms of value per dollar. It's 400 bucks cheaper with only slightly downgraded parts overall, yeah? Or is the difference between the CPU/GPU on the two machines REALLY enough to justify the extra 400 bucks?

My general recommendation is to seriously just put in the ~hour it takes to watch one of the better assembly tutorials on youtube. Any decent component purchased from a reputable retailer will have return options in the event something comes Dead On Arrival, and unless you go out of your way it's hard to fuck up PC assembly bad enough to cause damage. Prebuilts almost as a rule come with something on the order of a 70%+ markup over their parts' value and like to cut corners.

As for figuring out which parts to use for a good, balanced build for a given budget; I'd recommend using the ever-venerable Logical Increments guide as a jumping-off point and putting together a shopping list using PC Part Picker. (Which has its own community-driven build recommendations.)

But if you absolutely need a game-ready desktop out of the box, the HP Pavilion Power series is generally the way to go: The price on that particular model is actually pretty damn good, and it'll run pretty much whatever you want at 1080/60+. I'd still recommend picking up a 120-250GB SSD to put in there to run Windows on though.

hey, you still looking? amazon has an i5-7400 and a gtx 1060 for $660

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

Would this work with my prebuilt? Sorry somewhat of a RAM noob.

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Jed-BbVADK7WB

Bare bone Lenovo ts140 with i3 for 220.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4000HUX-i3-4130-Computer/dp/B00F6EK9J2

Or bare bone with Xeon e3 for 329.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FE29IWK/ref=pd_aw_sims_3?pi=SL500_SS115&simLd=1

How's this?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=psdc_13896597011_t2_B074LDWG52

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/

modified i5-6400, rx 480 4gb, cooler master masterbox 5. can't really go wrong if you want a prebuilt.

I have a few ThinkServer TS140s with 16GB of RAM (each) running around 6 VMs each (Ubuntu, Debian, Server 2012). Low power draw and quiet as shit.

If it's actually going to spend it's entire life hooked up to a monitor, why not just get a desktop? All you'll probably need is a decent processor. You could just get a cheap Desktop tower and be good to go as long as you're not carrying it around.

IMO doing it with a laptop is always a bad idea. Even with this PC you should have a solid and reliable 1080p stream for $150, and get more power than almost any laptop CPU:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_b8FADb1DJ5SXW

Just wire Ethernet to it, install Team Viewer so that you can remotely connect to it if there's any problems with your stream (even from your phone), and you'll be good to go

> https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1484000647&sr=8-4&keywords=1060+gtx+desktop

I wouldn't call the rx480 high end, more of a mid range card. It will be very good at 1080p, and this build is using the stock intel cooler. Its a decent build, meets your budget, and your needs. The i5 in this build is all you need for gaming, without throttling your GPU.

I was originally aiming for 1060 and i5 (on a budget) but found they were just outside of how much I wanted to spend. Aiming for around 700-900. This is the one I was pretty set https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA

I'm not going for the most powerful beast just yet, just trying to get in the door.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=pd_lpo_147_tr_t_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DCWCNSD3G46ZGK02Y57B

$700, probably best cost to part machine they have. RX480, i5, 8GB, 1TB HDD. You could put in an SSD into it if you want, but will need to clone the HDD.

To build that yourself you might get a bit under that, probably not more than $50 though.

Not OP, but I'm considering this CyberPowerPC computer which seems to be a good deal and well reviewed. Any thoughts?

No, get this one. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=zg_bs_13896597011_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HC9EESY730KQSPQ9CH0W

What country are you buying from? Amazon US has this one and it's not too terribly overpriced. Sorry no one else tried to help you without screaming at you to build your own. Yes it's easy guys we get it but calm the fuck down. Not everyone wants to do it.

I wouldn't recommend something with a GT 730 graphics card in it, you'd probably be better off getting something without a card and adding a ~ $100 or so card to it such as a GTX 1050 or RX 460

Something like this Acer, select the 7th gen 7400 for $10 more and then add a card to it. I can understand how some people could feel intimidated building a PC but adding in a card is really simple.

Don't buy a system that has the FX series CPUs. Too old to do what you want.

This Acer Aspire TC + GTX 1050 would be better. You'll have to add the graphics card yourself but it is very easy. This guy has a video about how to upgrade that particular system. He is showing the newer 7th gen i5 system but the 6th gen one isn't that much slower and costs less so you can afford a GPU. You can also get an RX 460 which costs a little less than the GTX 1050 and almost the same performance.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-fx-6300-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-560-1tb-hard-drive-black/6072200.p?skuId=6072200

Or https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B01M3UKNVD/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526075493&sr=1-6&keywords=cyberpower+gaming+pc

You should be able to get a good pc for 700

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XR0C038Z2GPVGM0G4Q62

$640 bucks, add this current amazon rift daily deal as well, and you're looking at a total under 1,000.

How much does a playstation cost? This rift deal is almost putting it in range of buying a playstation and PSVR bundle I would think.

No, that is an abhorrent processor. The games that you're playing aren't that demanding in the first place, but you still shouldn't be buying a five year old processor just now. I would recommend either this Intel system or this AMD system which are similarly specced. I would personally recommend the latter because it has an r5 1400 and a 580. I don't know what mobo is in the last system so I'm not sure if you can oc the CPU or not. It's probably an A320 and not a B350.

I second this. Upgrading to a sub-$200 graphics card is the most cost effective way to go about this. FX 8350 won't be too much better than the i5 2300, and a $65 Pentium G4560 is almost a side-grade; no meaningful improvement.
If the friend REALLY wants new, consider this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=11413L9RV1HZK&coliid=I22HTJPFBR3522
a $720 pre-built form CyberpowerPC. Modern mid-range hardware that should outperform any aforementioned builds. If friend wants to build new: wait for AMD's new budget CPUs and go from there.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all


This frequently goes on sale for ~500 and would be more than enough to run Titanfall.

These go on sale for around $450 all the time and will be wayyyy better than anything you can build for that price.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B077S27YLP/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1525541363&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hp+pavilion+gaming&dpPl=1&dpID=41wxHZqVs2L&ref=plSrch

This is what i am currently looking into, not sure if its the absolute best bang for your buck but its got good parts and room for upgrades.

Three years ago I purchased a $2500 gaming laptop. It has been great but now I am stuck building an entire new computer since I cannot upgrade and want to do VR.

I would definitely recommend having a gaming desktop as your daily driver and then having a $500 laptop with a decent CPU and SSD for your mobile computing needs.

Here is a nice pre-built on Amazon that I've been looking at.

much better gpu, 2tb hard drive, dual channel ram, usb 3 on the top instead of usb 2, b360 board instead of a crippled h310 board, though it does look to be using a stock cooler. on sale for 1199 right now but newegg lists it as 1399 msrp so it's a direct competitor to the $1400 pc in the video.

Ibuypower is exactly the type of company that gamers nexus was comparing the walmart pc to, and that is absolutely a better pc for the same price and comes with a (probably shitty) keyboard and mouse. Also there's a chance that ibuypower pc is using an actual name brand, reasonable quality power supply instead of the shitty one that's in the walmart pc but the unit in both should probably be raplaced at some point.


Steve is not ignorant, the dude does this for a living he knows wtf he's talking about. Sure he may have been a little hard on it and part of that may have been due to getting the wrong computer, but this OP pc just doesn't have the same caliber of parts as other similar machines by other system builders, they cut almost every corner possible.

edit: liquid cooler, 1070 ti, 8700k, z370 board, 16gb ram, 240gb ssd, 1tb hdd, wifi. looks to be the normal price but I would take a k chip, 1070 ti, and z370 board for $50 more any day of the week.

8700k, z370 board, ssd, 1tb hdd, 1070, 16gb ram, liquid cooler. this one is on sale from msrp but camelcamelcamel shows it has been hovering around $1400-$1450 for awhile now.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B078H7WQ8B/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here's the link for it. After i placed order, the used link disappeared.

I’m not Canadian, but I’ll try to help.

This PC is a great build with an awesome CPU and a decent GPU but lacks both an SSD and 16 gigs of RAM, both necessary for future-proofing. (The SSD is necessary now, but you can hold off with 8 gigs of ram) Sadly, I can’t find builds that are less than 1k CAD with anything similar or better than this with more RAM or an SSD.

I recommend getting a separate SSD like this. (You can always do the cheaper 250 gb variant for less money). I recommend this SSD because it is one of the fastest and comes with amazing Windows 10 cloning software. this guide is how I installed mine (just ignore the laptop specific parts like removing the battery. You can then order a SATA wire like this one to install your SSD. (If you don’t know where in the case you should put your SSD, just use 3M or double sided tape and tape it someone aesthetically pleasing on the bottom of the case.

The sata cables should be obvious where to install (on the right side of the motherboard, usually stacked on top of each other, slightly above or below the GPU), otherwise, you can look up your motherboard to find the SATA slots. Then just install the cloning software and follow the guide. When you need more RAM, look at the PCs ram slot and order another 8 gig stick (if there is only 1 stick of 8 gigs), otherwise, just order 16 gigs of any DDR4 ram you want. I’m sorry you need to do work to get a fully future proof machine, but remember this isn’t 100% needed, just highly recommended. (Plus you can save 100 bucks from your paycheck a few weeks from now for the SSD, you don’t need it the second u get ur pc. Good luck, let me know if you need any help!

P.S You don’t even need a big SSD, just something to hold Windows 10 and programs like Steam and Chrome. Big stuff like games can go on the HDD

Here is a decent one


[CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A5 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 6 Core Processor, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=twister_B076HWTRK6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1)


and a mech keyboard


https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VhkwrH/redragon-keyboard-k552


or


https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PpH48d/logitech-keyboard-920007839


or


https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6rcCJ/eagletec-kg010-wired-gaming-keyboard-kg010


and a curved monitor https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Nv3H99/msi-optix-mag24c-236-1920x1080-144hz-monitor-optix-mag24c

This is the only Amazon deal as of now under $500 I would consider. It'll run Classic 1080p High 60fps no problem.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-i7-9700k-9230/dp/B07J5RPC32/


Posted without the referral link.

iBUYPOWER Pro Gaming PC Computer Desktop Intel i7-9700k 8-Core 3.6 GHz, Geforce RTX 2070 8GB, 16GB DDR4, 1TB HDD, 240GB SSD, Z370, Liquid Cooling, WiFi Ready, Windows 10, VR Ready (Trace 9230, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LyRRDbN4XYACA

My brother bought this an hour ago. I'd say the specs are good for the price (especially the GPU). Maybe later add more RAM

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A7 Gaming PC (Intel i5-9400F 2.9GHz 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_R7klDbKGZ56BN

I'd always recommend building a PC. Find a case you like and get started from there.

If you just want to buy a prebuilt, however, Amazon has absolutely insane ones these days. This $750 1660 build is a great deal

Gotta love how literally everyone on here will just tell you to build it and not answer your question.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_Hg9iDbDP0N60M

This is gonna be the best you'll get for the price pre-built. All it really needs is an SSD and maybe swap out the 4gb vram model for an 8gb. Anything better and you'll have to pay more.

I got this exact model and it works fantastic, you can upgrade it substantially too (PSU, GPU, SSD)

Pre-built: Dell Inspiron Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor, 16GB DRAM, 1TB HDD, AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card, Windows 10 64-bit, Blue LED, Model Number:
i5676-A696Blu

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Br5CDbSZ344MK

I feel like the price is a little high for those specs. For reference, I took 2 seconds to look and I found this on Amazon. Obviously take this with a grain of salt bc I'm way too tired to be giving sound advice but I feel like you can get more for 1000 euros (~$1104 in freedom units).

Ninja edit: Just found this too, and I haven't even gone to any of the sites I'd recommend to look for PC's. I'm sure the machine you saw is great and it def will work for what you need it to, but I think you may be able to do better elsewhere.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL

There is nothing you can build for $700 that will give you a better value than:

This

or

This

I know you want to build your own PC and all but, these are better values

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Black - VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_E.41Ab81TS3RE

Buy this prebuilt, this is what I have. Great PC runs overwatch and fortnite at 100fps on high settings, only con is sometimes it can get loud and hot but that is fixable

For Cities Skylines you want an an unlocked Intel CPU. The game in my experience is CPU limited and thread limited. For streaming more cores\threads is good. To be honest squeezing in a monitor and windows into the 850$ doesnt leave much room if the monitor is decent. I am skipping the monitor but including windows.

First consider this cyberpower system for 779$ it has the works including windows10 and an rx580 4GB
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1522168638&sr=1-1&refinements=p_36%3A77000-85000&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Now for my build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor | $234.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler | $34.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $89.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Patriot - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $79.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $54.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Video Card | $148.98 @ Newegg
Case | NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case | $48.00 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $39.49 @ Newegg
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $89.89 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $876.01
| Mail-in rebates | -$55.00
| Total | $821.01
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-27 12:45 EDT-0400 |

The custom PC has a worse video card because video cards are extremely overpriced at the moment. You get a better processor which will definitely help with light content creation. Cities Skylines will be happy with just a 1050 but if you want to play major releases at high settings that video card wont cut it. For VR your going to want a 1060 6GB or RX580 8GB or better but those are very high cost outside of prebuilts.

Hey guys, I got this on sale last week... I updated the drivers and now it's just freezing all the time. Can't even get to the settings without it freezing. I'm pretty new to PC gaming which is why I scooped this one up. Needless to say I'm pretty frustrated. Any tips on how I can fix this?

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A5 Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi & Win 10) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_mshaCbMMPM140

this prebuilt might suit your needs.

I'll probably get downvoted for this, but at that price point i'd get [this pc] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0757DVF4Z/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1) off of Amazon. It's a good prebuilt that has the ability to be upgraded. The biggest issue with it is the RAM, but you can always add another stick.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8080A2 w/Liquid Cooled Overclockable Intel i7-8700K 3.7GHz CPU, 16GB DDR4, NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti 11GB, 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD & Win10 64-Bit

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075VSBNQZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_SywOAbWYVHQGJ

Took a chance on this purchase, and I could not be happier with it. Very powerful and sexy. Only thing that I will have to do with it is replace the stock cooler on the gpu (1080 ti ARMOR card with a horrendous cooler). The new cooler is coming in the mail today. Yay!

Hi! Although I have never used Clip Studio Paint, I use Paint Tool SAI and Adobe Animate very often so I'm going to hope they are relatively similar. I'm going to assume CSP is going to be a bit more resource intensive than SAI, but I'm certain nearly everything from this decade will do fine with that program. As for Photoshop, you have a few choices (I'm going to stick with 8th gen CPUs for now, the 9th gen ones are coming but it's still too early. If you want to go that route I'd suggest waiting for a few months.) The i5 8th gen is going to be cheaper but will perform about 15% worse in photoshop compared to the i7 8th gen. $900 is at that annoying border between a 1060 and 1070. However, this won't help much with digital art.

[$756] Dell Inspiron - i5 8th gen, 1060 3gb, it should do great with Photoshop and you'll be able to play games well. Streaming should be no problem (it's more dependent on your internet connection) and dual monitors is going to require a little bit of fiddling. If I remember correctly, the 1060 has 1 HDMI and 3 DPorts (someone correct me if I'm wrong), HDMI will work with no problem but you'll have to fiddle a little with the DPorts. Shouldn't be that much of a problem though. Use code Eleven11 at checkout to save 11%.

[$690] Dell Inspiron - You'll still be able to play Overwatch without a GPU but it won't be the greatest experience. This has an i7 8th gen, should do better than the i5 8th gen by a noticeable margin. This will save you a bit of money with the tradeoff of weak gaming performance. Don't forget to use Eleven11 at checkout.

[$686] HP Pavilion Power - Same as above but has a 7th gen i5. 7th gen vs 8th gen is about a 40-50% improvement. However, PS can't really take advantage of the extra cores on the 8th gen i5 so you'd probably only be looking at about 15-20% improvement (take this with a grain of salt, I don't have any hard benchmarks). Get this if you want to save a bit of money for relatively similiar performance.

Besides the Dell systems, I'd recommend waiting for Black Friday. I'm sure there will be desktop deals that are better than these. For reference, I'd go for at least an i5 8th gen, and at least a 1050ti, nothing less. Good luck!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBL8BER/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t2_B01NBLH6JF This plus a freesync monitor would be a great set up

New, you will most probably need a GTX 1050 and that is going to put you out of the 500 bucks range...........650 gets you this http://www.microcenter.com/product/480858/Aspire_GX-281-UR11_Desktop_Computer

or this with a 570 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=lp_13896597011_1_16?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1519160220&sr=1-16

or this with a 560 for $540 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B0761XM9BJ/ref=lp_13896597011_1_16?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1519160312&sr=1-16&th=1

OK, based on your recommendation I went with this pre-build for a bit more money.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=sr_1_21?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1512055741&sr=1-21&keywords=gaming+pc

I think its a bit overpriced. It only has the 3gb 1060, which is a lot weaker than the 6gb version, and the CPU isn't that great either.

This build has a slightly better CPU, and similar GPU, and is still a lot cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1517793735&sr=1-2&refinements=p_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A3012495011#customerReviews

Can the budget be stretched another $136?

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY

That pre-built is good value. Once you account for the cost of a Windows license for the custom build it is only $40 more.

Alternatively you will have to buy used to get a better value, at least the GPU.

It's saying "In stock" for me.

/u/homeboy221 if you can buy it that would be the best you can get for the money, buying the GPU seperate will probably be $400+ if you can even find one.

If you can't get that then the next best would probably be https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=pd_sbs_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B071ZZF7FY&pd_rd_r=WCJ9EETZSASX1ZR6HHV7&pd_rd_w=AT7Eo&pd_rd_wg=U5WZH&refRID=WCJ9EETZSASX1ZR6HHV7&th=1

The same one also looks to be on newegg for the same price https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G6D96059&cm_re=ryzen_5_1400-_-83-164-002-_-Product

if you really don't want to go over the $600 price then these are other options:

$540 - r5 1400+rx 560 (rx 560 is similar in performance to a gtx 1050): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G6D79371&cm_re=ryzen_5_1400-_-83-164-006-_-Product

$550 - i5-6400+gtx 960 (Similar to a gtx 1050 ti, but weaker than an rx 570, more likely than not it's a 2gb model) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221414

$550 - i5-7400+gtx 1050 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221437

If you don't mind turning down settings to keep 60fps@1920x1080 the latter three should be fine, but for only ~$100 more you can get a lot more GPU (rx 570 is around twice as powerful as an rx 560 while an rx 580 is a bit more powerful than an rx 570).

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4 this looks to not be awful. At just over 600, I would still recommend to build your own tho, if you lived near me I'd even help u.

How will this perform with world of Warcraft? I was looking at getting a different dell with a 570, but is it worth an extra $150-$200? I’m only looking for a PC to get me through the next two years or so. Here’s the other dell I’m talking about:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071ZZF7FY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1HNC035CZ2MR5&psc=1&th=1

Lookup some videos on what you should look for in gaming pcs man. Honestly at such a low budget buying a console might be best. Idk if I can find a good prebuilt in that range but something like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071ZZF7FY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517812388&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=dell+gaming+tower&dpPl=1&dpID=41PlVF-rpiL&ref=plSrch is a bit overbudget but a good sweetspot for price to performance but I'm not an expert so I'm sure someone else could probably find better deals in terms of price to performance I can pretty much guarantee that an inspiron with onboard graphics won't do it though.

Bought this for $1000 USD yesterday, any reasons to worry about upgrading in the future? I was going to build but I couldn't pass on this deal. PC

Well you will need a powerful CPU/GPU and a SSD, so I would recommend this ibuypower tower which has all three with great value for money.

Sorry I was busy.

What about this? Amazon ships international.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Ultra-Gaming-Desktop-AM900Z/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1510433624&sr=1-1&keywords=ibuypower

i7, SSD, GTX 1070, Windows 10, 16GB DDR4 1300$.

You can spend the 200$ on a decent monitor.

I hope you got the link.

Well, if you're going to get that style of prebuilt, I'd recommend this instead.

That said, there are some caveats with buying a prebuilt that you might want to think about before jumping in.

First, they don't specify details on parts. This may not matter much for the GPU (a GTX 1070 is a 1070 even if it's not the absolute best model), but when it comes to the PSU, it's more risk involved (big difference between 600 watt no-name that could blow up and take the rest of the parts with it and a 600 watt established brand known for quality).

Prebuilts also tend to cheap out on certain parts. The PSU is the big one, but many will also throw in any old motherboard that's compatible. Might not be an issue right away, but could cause trouble if you plan to overclock and the mobo doesn't support it or you try to add some extras later only to find the mobo can't handle them.

Finally, depending on where you get the prebuilt and who the manufacturer is, if you ever need support, you could have a rough time. Cyberpower and ibuypower tend to be cheap-ish (with sales, they can match building yourself), but reports of their support quality are mixed.

All of that said, if you decide to go with a prebuilt, this is the time of year to do it thanks to sales. Both what you linked and what I linked could be built for slightly cheaper (maybe $100-200, depending on the part models you pick), but not by much which is a pretty significant improvement over the usual $300+ mark-up prebuilts usually have.

I doubt they will have legit sales that dont overprice it then drop it back to normal. But anyways here are the ones i found.

Highish end

Medium end

Very high end



These are all reasonable prices

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Ultra-Gaming-Desktop-AM900Z/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522416765&sr=8-2&keywords=gtx+1070+pc&dpID=51QKHRFF%252BSL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RvW329

The gtx 1070’s are overpriced so if you wait you could save some money.

Also you could buy a prebuilt if you need the pc now because there cheaper than building your own with gpu prices.
Heres 2 prebuilt pc’s that are just as good as the one you could build


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073RKHY2H/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1518025019&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51QKHRFF%2BSL&ref=plSrch

This comes with a key board and mouse so all you need is a monitor. This is the better than the prebuilt below. You will get 130+ fps on all games at 1080p


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075TMK25G/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1518025249&sr=1-7&refinements=p_n_graphics_type_browse-bin%3A14292273011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011%7C2289793011&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51Tw27x5Z9L&ref=plSrch

All you need is a monitor and your set. This is good for 1080p 60fps.

Just went out of stock, might have more available later. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073RKHY2H/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Is a better build than the one you listed and is 200 dollars cheaper ish? Might look into this before they're sold out as well

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073RKHY2H/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1517891630&sr=1-3&refinements=p_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A3012497011&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51QKHRFF%2BSL&ref=plSrch. Really good Gaming PC. Good value for money for the computer market atm.

This would do it

It's probably the worst time to build a PC at the moment. Graphic card prices are really high due to cryptocurrency mining. RAM prices are also really high due to DDR4 memory being used in newer phones and possible competitor price fixing.

I built my PC in late 2016. I bought my 1060 6GB GPU on Amazon for $250. It now retails for $400-500. I bought 16 GB DDR4 RAM for $75 on NewEgg. It's now $150. I was able to build my PC for around $800, but with the increase in prices nowadays it would easily go over $1,000.

Graphic card price trends for a few cards for example.

At the moment it's cheaper to buy a prebuilt. You can find some decent hardware for a good price if you can't find any good deals on GPUs or RAM. Something like this would be good. You could also check used hardware at /r/hardwareswap for lower prices.

Otherwise you could wait it out until the prices drop back to normal levels.

If you can in the future though, look into getting a 144hz monitor. If your graphics card is powerful enough to reach those high frames, the monitor will refresh twice as much compared to a 60hz monitor. It makes the game feel super smooth when you're playing.

Just bought a Rift, what's a good PC under 1k? Leaning towards this Cyberpower one but I feel like building one of the recommended ones is better and cheaper? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

How would this compare relative to this build: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_dlpc4342_cdl_13?pf_rd_m=A1IM4EOPHS76S7&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=R8JJ9VM72Y2B1TVC73PD&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=0&pf_rd_i=283155

Frantically trying to decide if the upgrade in CPU and GPU is worth the additional $210. Thoughts?

I think I'm going to go with one of these and cancel the cheaper-than-usual-but-not-great-deal I got on an Inspiron 15 7000 (i7-7700K, GTX 1060 Max-Q) I bought from DELL to serve as my gaming/productivity hybrid, and pick up a good deal on a work laptop instead.

Ok, so rule #1 of getting a pc is never go prebuilt. An exception can be made in your case because you are getting your first PC and likely do not know (nor do you have anyone around you that knows) how to build a pc.

Starting off, that GPU is a bit old, and is one of the cheaper ones in it's family. I'd find something a bit better if I were you. Staying within the pre-built spectrum, I'd suggest looking at this. Some reviews claim the parts are refurbished which can be a bit of a crap shoot at times, but those specs are alright for what it's worth. (Other pcmr bros correct me if I'm wrong.) EDIT: Yeah no thats a bad one, their product is dodgy and i misjudged the cpu. Try this one instead: link

As a rule of thumb aswell when shopping prebuilts, don't go with Alienware. People tend to flock to alienware because of the high price and the fact it's a "gaming" product line, when in reality you are paying a premium for a label, while the hardware you get is sub-par.

Building it yourself is always better but if you really want to get a prebuilt here is one: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ .

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=F36MJXS7SBW95BQFA3MA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=dc9273e9-c93f-4c10-8d60-e61dac2da527&pf_rd_i=15201447011&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=culto-20&linkId=3413dae1e10b8eece91be4ff59cad360

> Sorry but I don't see how someone could get a pre-built for $1000 here in Ontario that is close in specs to mine. With our 13% sales tax, the price would need to be no more than $885.

This is better for $1,085. Doesn't have a blu-ray reader and could use an SSD, but whatever.

https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1524619309&sr=8-10&keywords=cyberpowerpc

Here's if someone where to build their own PC. I'm not including a builder's fee because why pay someone to do it when you can do it yourself.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $124.98 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Motherboard | MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $91.95 @ Vuugo
Memory | Patriot - Signature Line 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $104.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Team - L5 LITE 3D 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $76.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $47.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card | $408.50 @ Vuugo
Case | Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case | $66.99 @ PC-Canada
Power Supply | EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.99 @ Amazon Canada
Wireless Network Adapter | Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter | $44.99 @ Memory Express
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1007.37
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-24 21:17 EDT-0400 |

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/, https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-black/5833100.p?skuId=5833100, https://www.asus.com/us/Tower-PCs/ASUS-VivoPC-X/.

Hey as long as you're aware that this PC is basically e-waste and you're paying a lot of money for a 6 years old product (which is about a century in PC tech), by all means. This PC was not worth $700 in 2012 and it's not worth $700 now either.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1517827459&sr=1-6 wait for this one to come in stock and buy this instead. This one is actually worth its price.

This is what I got. It can run everything I've tossed at it so far, Far Cry 5 runs on high with shadows on medium.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=lp_8588811011_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1516326033&sr=1-5

This one is what I have. I play and stream LoL and several other games such as The Forest and Fallout 4 and it still does a bang of a job.

I’ve seen this computer mentioned a lot on this subreddit. You may want to keep an eye on the price. It was $750 a couple weeks ago.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1519961507&sr=8-2&keywords=prebuilt+pc&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch this is a prebuilt that is competitively priced in todays market and in your budget if you're a bit too hesitant to build one yourself. it should play games like civ 6 and even major AAA titles at 1440p if you want and is op for 1080p. 4k isn't out of reach either if you're willing to go down in graphics.

I recomend this one

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1520211373&sr=1-1&keywords=cyberpowerpc

Due to the boosted card prices prebuilt computers are pretty much your only option

That gpu is gonna struggle with only 2GB of ram. You could buy a way better prebuilt option from a different company or build your own for the same price. Example here's a cyberpower with the same I5 and a way better GPU for 100$ less. Alienware are rip offs.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1506023215&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+pc

Hey, prebuilts are actually pretty good values right now, but you have to find the right one. Unfortunately the one you linked isn't a very good deal.

These ones are better:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505865181

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-black/5833100.p?skuId=5833100

How does it compare to this? Looks like a processor/graphics trade off.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0747W15QL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

i5-7400, AMD RX 580.

Will need a little additional love but it should set me off right. I currently use a laptop connected to my TV to play games on and the laptop is a trooper but its time is up.

They're all the same to me. Ideally what you're looking for (if on a budget, I assume) is probably a machine with an i5/Ryzen 1400 and something like a 1050Ti or RX570 graphics card. Both of these would be modest beginner machines for happy gaming at 1080p 60FPS. This CyberPower PC is fairly well-balanced, although personally, I would prefer something with an SSD.

Watch out for stuff that's more like this: an i7 7700K paired with... Like an RX 550 or GTX 1050. This would be an example of a really unbalanced (and likely, extremely overpriced) build. Alternatively, they use old parts and pass them off as new. This example uses a very poor CPU. You can do much better for similar money, such as the above example.

I got this one. It's not high end, but better than average I guess. I don't know anything about computer specs, had my brother in law check it out first. When I bought it, I guess it was probably upper mid tier. Regardless, it runs Elite on ultra settings just fine. Claims to be rift and vice ready, but I haven't gone that far yet. Been seriously considering it though.

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_tYEgDbGPB7GHR

Sorry to bother you so much, I really appreciate the help! Currently looking at this desktop which comes with the 1060, and it's well within my price range. What do you think of this one? The reviews say it's really nice for upgrading, but something about needing to buy a specific cable, which should be no problem. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=vr+ready+pc&qid=1549767428&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Even with 1k you could buy a PC with a GTX 1060 MINIMUM.

Example Here: A 700 dollar pc with a GTX 1060, not the best deal but still leagues better than a 1050ti

Wow I'd really appreciate that! Here's the amazon link for the desktop. I'm glad you found the video useful. Please let me know what you find out. Thanks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They make this same pc but with a gtx 1060 as well which is basically the same as the rx580 but it cost a little more an doesn’t run as hot. But this is exactly what I owned and still have all the parts to. Not every game will run on max settings but you can definitely run games on good settings an get good frames

EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1
This is the gtx1060 also includes ssd if you wanna spend a little more

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757DVF4Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1520392037&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&dpPl=1&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&ref=plSrch

Or

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07717B32S/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1520392037&sr=8-17-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&psc=1&th=1

Welcome, compare it to this list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YYyr3F

This is 1080 ti config with 250 gb ssd instead of 120 and the price is 200+$ higher... ending up around 1650$

I saw a great deal with this computer:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/

which had the 1080 ti and 250 ssd for 1500$ (it's gone now and price is now 1800$, which is > 1650$)

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/

ah this was 1499.99 just 2 days ago :(

Sortof, id rather recommend you a PC that has an 8700k at this point so here:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1510947106&sr=8-10&keywords=gtx+1080+ti+pc

if u can get the same CPU(8700k) and GPU with 16GB of ram for slightly cheaper with a 240 gig ssd and another storage drive that's pretty much exactly what you need for the high end gaming PC. Id already recommend this but if you can get it for cheaper near black friday then even better.

I found this one listed at 599$ (it might be more expensive without amazon prime)

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=lp_565098_1_14?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1564332983&sr=1-14

You can find others for 500$ but many of them don't have graphic cards, if you are just playing LoL or Dota 2 you don't need one but if you are playing anything a little newer spending the extra 100$ is worth it to get a graphic card

For CSGO 60-70FPS in 1080p you don't need much firepower at all and something like this one on sale today would do:
https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP/

But if you def want to spend your 900-1000 then these are also on sale today and worth considering IMO:
https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RL4K6CN/
https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Shiva-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RPCG8ZW/

Feel free to ask for further information. I'm not sure how knowledgeable you are in computing hardware or expected performance in games.

> [Ryzen & GTX 1050 Ti Edition] SkyTech ArchAngel Gaming Computer Desktop PC Ryzen 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core, GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, 8GB DDR4 2400, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, Wi-Fi USB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_J1f.Bb303ST2K

It's not terrible from specs alone, but I'd expect a lot better for the price. Let's compare:

CPU:

• Amazon $650 build (1200): Last generation 1000 series Ryzen. 4 core with 4 threads. Minimum expected multi-tasking capabilities. Current 2018 games will need to run at low-medium quality.
  
• My $480 build (2400G): Current generation 2000 series Ryzen. 4 core with 8 threads. Current 2018 games will need to run at low, or medium quality with a dedicated graphics card (like the 1050 Ti).
  
• My $600 build (2600): Current generation 2000 series Ryzen. 6 core with 12 threads. Near top-tier level performance for a relatively cheap price. Able to run 2018 games smoothly. Future-proofed for multi-threaded applications, for example, applications that require processing of statistics, data, video editing/encoding, 3D rendering (eg. architectural design, game/film artwork), creating applications (programming), and multi-tasking.
  
  None of these builds will have problems running "e-sports" games like League of Legends, Overwatch, Dota 2, Counter Strike, or similar games. Even in current games, the 1200(+1050Ti) and the 2400G will run similarly. However, current Triple-A games like Battlefield V, Black Ops 4, Hitman 2 and Assassin's Creed are already struggling on 4 core CPUs, and this is especially true for the $650 Amazon CPU which is only 4 cores and 4 threads. My build's $480 2400G has 4 cores and 8 threads. If the 2400G is upgraded with the 1050 Ti, then it would run at medium, and possibly with a bit higher performance than the 1200. However at this price, it would be better to get my recommended $600 build, with 6 cores and 12 threads. Although simplified, think of it this way: each CPU thread can handle one task at a time. Processing speed per thread is also important. See 1200 vs 2400, and 2400 vs 2600. Although the $650 and $480 builds will be able to still complete multi-threaded tasks like the $600 build, it will take more time to do so, and the computer may not be usable in certain circumstances until the processing is complete.
  
  GPU:
  
• Amazon $650 build (1050ti): Good entry level graphic card.
  
• My $480 build (2400G): Acceptable entry level graphic card.
  
• My $600 build (1050ti): Good entry level graphic card.
  
  Although the $650 build has a good graphics card, the reason it may not be able to perform at its best is because the CPU is rather weak. The computer CPU needs to communicate to the GPU to process the game's graphics, and if the GPU is waiting for the CPU to handle that task, the GPU will freeze up momentarily. For e-sports games and basic games, the $650 and $480 build should perform almost the same. However, once the $480 build is upgraded in the future with a dedicated graphics card (as simple as sliding a connector into place and screwing in a panel), it's performance will rise a little above, especially in newer games. With my $600 build, it is safe to say that the CPU will not at all limit the GPU (or even the latest $600 GPUs) in newer games.
  
  Memory:
  
• Amazon $650 build: Minimum expected memory speed - slower 2400. Games may run ~10 FPS slower. In addition, according to the preview images, there is only one stick of memory (1x8) and not two (2x4). This is the number-one sin to avoid. CPUs require two sticks of memory in order to function at optimal speeds. Gaming performance may be reduced by 20-30 FPS which is huge.
  
• My $480 build: (Near) Optimal memory speed.
  
• My $600 build: (Near) Optimal memory speed.
  
  Storage:
  
• Amazon $650 build: No SSD. Only HDD.
  
• My $480 build: SSD and HDD.
  
• My $600 build: SSD and HDD.
  
  The SSD (solid state drive, or the "adata" branded drive in my builds) is completely optional. However, installing Windows 10 to this drive will be worthwhile. The system will be considerably more responsive and faster, and load programs almost instantly.
  
  In regards to Windows, I believe it is still possible to use a windows 7 key to upgrade (despite Microsoft claiming to turn it off December last year). Otherwise, it is possible to install Windows 10 as an evaluation/trial copy, and even after the 30-120 day period, it will continue to function and receive updates like the paid version. However, the trial version will limit customization of the desktop wallpaper/colors (but other programs can override this).
  
  Actual Performance Numbers:
  
• 1200 and 1050 ti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_ktjGHyeg
  
• 1200 and 1050 ti (Assassin's Creed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuFLR7GG5Fw
  
• 2400G and Battlefield V, low settings (50% resolution): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srb8ufOfnJ0
  
• 2400G (+1050 ti): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7lepo4WEX0
  
• 2600: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3288-amd-r5-2600-2600x-review-stream-benchmarks-gaming-blender/page-3
  
• 2600 (+1050 ti): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlcNBTG3CyA

[Ryzen & GTX 1050 Ti Edition] SkyTech Archangel Gaming Computer Desktop PC Ryzen 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core, GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, 8GB DDR4 2400, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, Wi-Fi USB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VCuUBb05EXVQ5

This is a good deal at the moment especially for a medium end build. The system is fully modular and uses no generic components (all known brands). Currently peice by peice costs more to build yourself. Good to consider.

Here's one with an i5 and 1060 for $640 USD. Similar price that's a step up from what you're looking at. Only 1tb storage though.

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kxmKAbH990HCG

HP Power Desktop with a 3BG GTX 1060. Good bang for your buck. Try to find it on sale. https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1519619701&sr=8-3&keywords=gtx+1060+i5

CyberPowerPC also has some great options.

Honestly my brother just bought this https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP and it runs pubg just fine at all times. I would suggest eventually getting a new case, power supply, and upgrade to 16gb ram. But it will play it out of the box.

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zmrtDbTD7H183

There’s the link to the product on amazon, I couldn’t find it on HP’a website

I'm in a similar spot to OP. What are the main differences between your build and an HP Pavilion Power 580-023w?

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_pbKXAbDMJ050N

Here is the speeds of my blago miner with a i5 7400 : https://imgur.com/a/mtf7Z

This is the PC I am using: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

I would get this PC.

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_i2z8BbJXX2NXW

Stronger CPU and GPU and right around your price range.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

I HATE to recommend a prebuilt but with RAM / GPU at insane prices I'd have to say this PC which received a LOT of upvotes in /r/buildapcsales :

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 for $700 new.

With a 1060 should handle anything 1080p at mid to max settings with ease.

Here is the original discussion in BuildApcSales when it was a refurb

What is your build? iBuypower had a real nice pre-built setup with a 1070 and liquid cooling on Amazon for only $1500. It’s cheaper than building your own with the same specs. Was thinking of copping one for myself because I have money to spend.

Edit to add Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078H7WQ8B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_iHZLAbP9FS4VH

Yeah. iBUYPOWER Gaming PC Desktop 9200 i7-8700K 6-Core 3.7 GHz |Liquid Cooled| GeForce GTX 1070 Graphics | 16GB DDR4| 1TB HDD | 240GB SSD | Windows 10 Home 64-bit | WiFi| VR Ready | Black | Light Up Case https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078H7WQ8B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_sGiRAbDXBPR0N

Build your second computer not your first

I think youll get better value with this pre built

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078H7WQ8B/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t3_B0757FP32K

Scratch all that. There is a better premade on Amazon at a better price. You would probably want to upgrade the psu.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078H7WQ8B/ref=mp_s_a_1_1/143-8051814-7553808?ie=UTF8&qid=1520502050&sr=1-1&refinements=p_4%3AiBUYPOWER&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

No, because for $200 less (at Amazon) you can buy a prebuilt with the same processor but an RX 580 instead of a 1050 Ti. For $150 you can upgrade the RAM to 16GB and grab a 120GB SSD to add if you wish. However I still would recommend building your own- watch some YouTube tutorials and such, it's really quite easy even for a first-time builder.

If you're willing to spend $50 more, this is a good option.

This will give you similar performance, but has 8gb ram (will still be enough for gaming) and lacks an SSD (which is very nice to have)

This is also a solid machine for 1080p gaming.

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the 1st and 3rd prebuilt are the best value.

Because I still believe in actually answering your question...

If you really must go pre-built, go with a Cyberpower PC. They usually go on sale at different stores. This isn't a bad deal when compared with other pre-built PCs (like Dells) not built for gaming, and have horrible space for upgrades. Windows is installed already, and you don't have to worry about a keyboard and mouse. You won't have to upgrade for a while. It's more than enough to get you started with gaming.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

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This tower is built as a gaming PC, so upgrades should NOT be a major pain, and you can learn to build a PC as you upgrade. I still suggest to do as much research, so you can understand how parts function.

this prebuilt I found on amazon is cheaper
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1538954947&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_36%3A-100000

My only suggestion to swap is the PSU, all prebuilt psu's are shaky

None sorry. Compare the specs for those games and it might give you a better idea.

This is the PC I bought a few months back.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_4g7SBbBWMN30Y
All I upgraded was ram (for non-gaming stuff), added SSD (huge improvement, totally worth money) and new PSU (cheap off-brand one it came with made me nervous).
You could read through reviews on that PC to get a ball park idea of what your build would be like.

Best of luck!

I would get this computer simply because AMD has a promotion where u can get some free games, the computers themselves should be pretty much identical in performance.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

So I found what you mentioned here: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY?th=1&psc=1

Originally it’s something like $700 with a RX 580 but with a different graphics card GeForce 2070 it’s close to $2000. Pretty steep price but I mean if it lasts a while it’s worth it no?

prebuilt, if I were more computer savvy that probably would’ve been cheaper but I got this CYBERPOWERPC. Graphics and cpu could use some upgrades, but from what I understand I can play most vr games smoothly. I’ll update this when i get it on Wednesday if interested.

This is a much better gaming machine. It doesn't have an Nvidia GPU but it does have an AMD RX 580 which should meet or beat the GTX 1060 in most benchmarks.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

Someone just linked this in another thread, and IMO it's a better deal, just gotta add a SSD.

I purchase my computer fully built from Amazon. I also have an SSD, which is most of the reason for quick loading times.

Get this instead : and here's why :

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ?ref_=Oct_BSellerC_13896597011_0&pf_rd_p=d5e8b3af-9303-51f3-9f0f-ce96a426f7c2&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=13896597011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=D3N4TTKV73RJFJAMCSNS&pf_rd_r=D3N4TTKV73RJFJAMCSNS&pf_rd_p=d5e8b3af-9303-51f3-9f0f-ce96a426f7c2

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1. Second gen ryzen vs first gen better performance, both are 4core / 8 threads.
   
2. Better GPU : 570 4GB vs 580 8GB

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

Thoughts on this?

My old PC had a video card issue and basically died, I tried troubleshooting it here maybe 3 years ago but gave up. Still have it and it has an upgraded PSU and this motherboard + ram and am basically considering buying this PC for league of legends, steam games, etc. vs. probably buying a new processor and video card to compete, beat performance, and beat the price. I've got a nice tower with ventilation.

Any thoughts? I haven't dealt with IT stuff like this in a few years now and would appreciate the advice.

This is a decent one although it's probably cheaper to build your own.

Sorry if this is a bad place to ask this but I'm not necessarily looking for a PC to build but a PC to get and at a reasonable price. I'm not looking for anything that runs high end games, mostly something that can run games like Fallout New Vegas or Overwatch pretty well. I found [this PC] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mislDb09AVFNY) on sale, would it be a good purchase?

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=RX+580+DESKTOP&qid=1563593452&s=gateway&sr=8-2

Similar price, but infinitely better.

Still, I'd definitely suggest building your own. You'll save some money and get to choose exactly which parts you'll have in it without ridiculous markups.

Better value than the new budget king on Amazon, IMO:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=zg_bs_565098_2?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=SHR300ZPN2MSQBMMKEDZ&th=1

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Lacks the WiFi, but it's worth it for a case and motherboard on a universal form factor, and for the additional case fans. Also Windows Home is installed on the SSD by default.

2300X lacks the hyperthreading, but it should be the better pure gaming CPU than the 2400G thanks to the extra cache, and higher turbo. I would expect it to run substantially cooler under load similar to the R3-1300X:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/639/AMD_Ryzen_3_2300X_vs_AMD_Ryzen_5_2400G.html

I know people going to hate me o this, but should'eve bought a PC in black friady ( Amazon) there were verry crappy deals on there but some were verry good deals. There might still be some deals right now. Dont buy from Cyber power or IbuyPower they rip u off and use cheap parts

Currently looking at PCs Ibwould recoment this This might be 50$ over but that RX580 is going to last and the Ryzen 5 2400G is a decent CPU

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=HP+gamming+Desktops&qid=1575161019&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=mh_s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_8?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=ZDJZ2573W633GDNJRV0D&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=aac932e8-dfba-4858-be1a-fc9a7ae0a35e&pf_rd_i=15201447011&th=1&psc=1

How’s this pre built for an entry level gaming PC? Never been a PC gamer but looking to try it out before I really drop bands and build one myself

Also how hard would it be to switch the case out for something prettier?

Hey Fwast, thanks a lot for your reply! I will def. look into the hardwareswap option (not sure if it's reliable or not). Another option could also be eBay. Not sure if you would be able to help me with this but the 2 desktops i am looking into are:

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1)https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-i7-9700k-9230/dp/B07J5RPC32

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2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J1W2NHB/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?psc=1

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Do you have any opinions about those 2?

The Amazon search page for all that is RTX is being deflated by a third party. I don't like third party sellers, but is this likely a scam to seem like a Thanksgiving deal?

Upon further inspection, he's also listing prebuilt PCs

Happy Thanksgiving (:

Looking to buy a new gaming pc but I know very little about all this.. is this one a good deal?

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A7 Gaming PC (Intel i5-9400F 2.9GHz 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JhIlDbAMGKF25

Also can I eventually use duel monitors with this build?

i dont know shit about PCs. Ive gamed on consoles my whole life. that being said, i play fortnite everyday and want to make the switch to PC. My budget is 500-700. Like i said, i dont know anything about PCs so I don't know how to build one lol so maybe buying a whole PC is better for me. Anyone know how these stack up?

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https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1563200293&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-3

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https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Enthusiast-Computer-Desktop-AM010A/dp/B07645B962/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1563200293&s=gateway&sr=8-10

I'll one up you with an even better one. CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A7 Gaming PC (Intel i5-9400F 2.9GHz 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_gdglDbKWMT9T9

What did you pay for this thing? FX-6300 is from 2012 (and was horrible already in 2012). This computer is worth MAYBE $200 on like a really really good day. Return it immediately and get something decent. You can do way better for $700.

Here are some computers that are 100x better than what you bought for $700ishhttps://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_1?fst=as%3Aoff&pf_rd_i=16225007011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=74069509-93ef-4a3c-8dca-a9e3fa773a64&pf_rd_r=A5M9DR8SH9GQ29T2JEBH&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&qid=1563760328&refinements=p_36%3A2421882011&rnid=2421879011&s=computers-intl-ship&sr=1-1

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https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_2?fst=as%3Aoff&pf_rd_i=16225007011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=74069509-93ef-4a3c-8dca-a9e3fa773a64&pf_rd_r=A5M9DR8SH9GQ29T2JEBH&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&qid=1563760328&refinements=p_36%3A2421882011&rnid=2421879011&s=computers-intl-ship&sr=1-2

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https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F/ref=sr_1_7?fst=as%3Aoff&pf_rd_i=16225007011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=74069509-93ef-4a3c-8dca-a9e3fa773a64&pf_rd_r=A5M9DR8SH9GQ29T2JEBH&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_t=101&qid=1563760328&refinements=p_36%3A2421882011&rnid=2421879011&s=computers-intl-ship&sr=1-7

The subreddit I mentioned can help you more, this subreddit is more focused on building a pc. That being said, this pc has a superior gpu and a good cpu


https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=GXiVR8060A7&qid=1558237381&s=gateway&sr=8-4



All I did was go into amazon and search gaming pc and that’s like the second thing that came up. r/suggestapc will help you more

Mine was $750 and runs everything on max/ultra settings with very, very little FPS drop. Easy to upgrade when it's time, too. Planet Coaster is no issue for it at all.

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gaming+computer&qid=1557710548&s=gateway&sr=8-3

If you aren't comfortable building your own, then something like this, but contact the seller and get the details of the ram so that you can buy a 2nd stick for dual channel.

https://www.amazon.ca/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN

All of the above assumes extra for the mouse/keyboard, monitor, headphones/speakers, and a Windows 10 key from eBay for $10.

here's a cheaper one with similar
specs.

I'm running the game fine with just a 2200g APU. Civ isn't very graphics intensive, you'll never need more than a RX 560 or Nvidia 1650. Focus your money on getting something with a solid processor Intel i5 and Ryzen 5 are common. I like 16gb ram duel channel (2x 8gb sticks). And a solid state hard drive is a must.

Just an example:

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67

You could probably build that a little cheaper, and have much better components, but install a 500gb solid state drive and you'll be good for some time.

So, if you can swing a little bit of extra cash:

This is down to 397 from 450. Quad core xeon, but does not include a harddrive. You can grab a 1TB (if that is sufficient) for 60 bucks.

All three compared.

It's also incredibly quiet, and my kill-a-watt says it likes to idle at 20.8 watts, load is allegedly 50W but i have not yet gone up to watch while it's transcoding.

Get the Lenovo TS140

I've been shopping too, and I can't find a better deal than the ThinkServer TS130.

The CPU alone is $225, so for $100 you get a case, PSU, motherboard and 4gb of ram.

Another 16gb of ram is $180 roughly.

Intel xeon e3 thinkserver, add a few more sticks of ecc ram, a few wd red hdds and /r/freenas and you've got one hell of a plex machine and then some.

Why not consider one of these? I'm debating the same or buying a refurb workstation that I can load up with esxi to use for plex and my home lab.

Non-mobile: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FE29IWK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1426522495&sr=8-3&keywords=thinkserver&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

^That's ^why ^I'm ^here, ^I ^don't ^judge ^you. ^PM ^/u/xl0 ^if ^I'm ^causing ^any ^trouble. ^WUT?

I would get the Xeon version: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FE29IWK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1426522495&sr=8-3&keywords=thinkserver&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

Edit: also buy the RAM separately. It's cheaper than the upgrade options.

In theory you can do all that with a $55 Raspberry Pi 4. In absolute fact you can do all that with a $50 used Dell Optiplex. Dont want to risk a sketchy craigs list buy? Amazon Renewed. Here is an HP 8300 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core, 8GB RAM, 500GB SATA, Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit, USB 3.0, Display Port for $160. Thats a complete system including Win10 Pro. Spend another $50 on an SSD and you have a damn good "office/browsing" system.

Should be under the HP name, https://www.amazon.ca/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbishd/dp/B01CV9G1BO

I wouldn't recommend getting a small form factor, but they are cheaper, and they will fit up to a GT 1050 Low Profile(you have to specifically get a low profile model), other wise a GT 1030 will drop right in, you just need to swap the plate on the back of it with the low profile one they all come with.

Here is for all new parts but doesn't include windows. But I'd recommend ebay, or Facebook marketplace. Yard sales and auctions can hide some golden deals.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qWJjLJ (414.30 at time of Posting)

You could also buy something like this and stick a low profile Nivida 1030 in it.
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1540239753&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=computer&dpPl=1&dpID=41eoh2tOwGL&ref=plSrch

Yeah for that price, I guess you cant ask for too much performance. Id just want to make sure that you have right expectation for the level of performance you'll be getting. The CPU is worse than the ones that they put in a 200 dollar laptop.

I would personally get a cheap prebuilt something like this, as the CPU is miles better, and you can add like a LP card like rx 550/560 or gtx1030/1050/1050ti/1650 later if I want to game.

They're all connected via PCIe. That's standard.

Low Profile /Half-height (they mean the same thing) is also a standard.

Your HP 8300 is an SSF form factor? Then you're stuck with Low Profile cards. Any low profile card will fit in the remaining space within the HP 8300 SFF.

I'd go for this https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=pd_sim_147_18?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=H5ZQ8Y5NH5SD9QDDX8SA


for the newer i5 CPU.

HP 8300 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core, 8GB RAM, 500GB SATA, Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit, USB 3.0, Display Port (Certified Refurbished) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9g66Ab6BXHKBW

I linked the exact PC I purchased and I got a DDR5 2GB PNY GT 1030 from Best Buy. I haven’t tested many games but Absolver a game from 2017 runs at 40-50 fps on medium settings do not amazing but vary playable and then dirty bomb a game a shooter from 2015 runs at 70-80 fps.

Well that particular prebuilt is not a good buy. AMD FX processors are terribly outdated and the FX-4300 is one of the worse ones. The RX 460 is the least powerful card that can adequately run 1080p.

If you don't want to build some better options would be

The G150 model at Microcenter ($600) (pickup only, have to live near a Microcenter)

• i5-6500
  
  
• GTX 1050Ti
  
  
• 8GB RAM
  
  This PC at Newegg($640)
  
  
• i5-6402P
  
  
• GTX 1060 3GB
  
  
• 8GB RAM
  
  This PC at Amazon($700)
  
  
• i5-6402P
  
  
• RX 480 4GB
  
  
• 8GB RAM

I found two that meet the recommended specs for vr
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MQTQMMJ?psc=1 this one's pretty solid but is a bit more costly
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA this one also meets the recommended specs but the processer is a bit out dated. And ask anyone you will get the best Bang for your buck building.

Its adequate.

I would say this is better value - https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA It uses standard parts so upgrades aren't an issue.

ok but for real can you make a gaming pc [like this one](CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A Gaming Desktop - Intel i5-6402P Quad Core 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, AMD RX 480 4GB, WI-Fi USB Adapter, Windows 10 Home https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_EkAAyb8VMBQ8Z) if you already started on the penis you can keep working on it

[CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A Gaming Desktop - Intel i5-6402P Quad Core 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, AMD RX 480 4GB] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=twister_B01LWI9RQ6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1)


[ViewSonic XG2401 24-inch 144Hz 1080p Gaming Display with 1ms, HDMI, DisplayPort and FreeSync Technology] (https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-XG2401-DisplayPort-FreeSync-Technology/dp/B01A0ZRR50/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1474932018&sr=1-12&keywords=freesync+monitor)


[ABS Logic-R56 ALI088 Desktop PC Intel Core i5-6500 8 GB DDR4 240 GB SSD Geforce GTX 1060] (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102196)

My friend just bought a Cyberpower similar to this one: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA

It's a little different from the one he got, but this one is under 500 pounds and should run games with some pretty nice framerates. He likes his PC, the only issue is the CPU is a tad bit on the weak side but it should still hold up.

Also, we live in America so I hope the PC is available in your region as well. Hope this helps.

EDIT: Also, Dan's PC is insane and has two Titan X GPUs, which are around $1000 EACH, so you're not getting anywhere close to that for 500 pounds.

Yes it will. Load times will be long without a SSD but the game will run well all other times and its super easy to add a SSD later if loading drives you nutty. The CPU, its actually quite OK, functionally equivalent to a 6400 (just different integrated graphics, which you wont use).

This may be more balanced for total war https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yGE0xb5JXPYWC but I don't know your monitor resolution you will be playing at.

While building a PC is fun for some of us I don't think the gained value (not much usually) is worth the extra effort/stress for most people.

This one is better, but more pricey. That one is kinda overpriced. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487630922&sr=1-1&keywords=cyberpowerpc

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

You couldn't beat the price if you wanted to build the same computer yourself. Can also run all current games on 1080p on ultra.

This version below is slightly better but currently out of stock:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A-i5-6402P-GTX1060-Adapter/dp/B01LSLRU84/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1477394433&sr=1-1&keywords=CYBERPOWERPC+Gamer+Xtreme+VR+GXiVR8060A++gtx+1060

Basic computer for RS + small tasks

Amazing deal for a pretty good computer. It comes prebuilt with Windows installed (and included in the price unlike the previous link). It also has a mouse and keyboard included, as well as an AC wifi USB adapter just in case you don't want to run a cable through your house just for RS. The only down side is that it doesn't have an SSD. This computer is overkill for RS, but if you plan on playing more demanding games in the future, this will probably run them well on 1080p.

As far as value goes this Cyberpower has approx. the same cost to buy prebuilt as does it if you were to do it on your own. It's also in your price range, comes with keyboard and mouse, and leaves ample room for a decent 1080p monitor.


https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1481921585&sr=8-2&keywords=cyberpower+pc+gaming+computer

Pcpartpicker List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7kcV2R

Here's the PC: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA

Also I don't really PC game at all. Only gaming experience so far is with my XBOX 360. And I like action, horror, and adventure.

So you think I shouldn't get the vive?

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8020A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01HNBLHAA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479081133&sr=8-1&

But I don't recommend a pre-built

Just realised my other pc might be a bit over budget so you could for a cyberpower pc instead, gigs of ram, terabyte hardrive, Rx 480(4gig) and a i5 6402p( max 3.4ghz) , you also get a mechanical keyboard and mouse


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HNBLHAA/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2RNC174KMRXHKK4WRCAD

There is also a version with a kabylake i5 7400 but it's out of stock atm

This one is cheaper
I5 6402p 2.8GHz, rx 480 4gb, 1tb, 8gb ram.

It is! :O https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HNBLHAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483564818&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&dpPl=1&dpID=511WRjswCuL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HNBLHAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478430701&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc+i5&dpPl=1&dpID=511WRjswCuL&ref=plSrch

Best deal you're going to find for that price. And surprisingly it's a pre-built.

I would get this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HNBLHAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482564367&sr=8-1-fkmr0&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc+rx480

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-6400-Windows-ATC-780-AMZi5/dp/B01K1INXJK/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481359319&sr=1-5&linkCode=sl1&tag=tecdea0f-20&linkId=5626d92dcf87c228314bc9376299f738

For OW, all you need is an i5 and a modern video card and you'll get even the full fps for a 144hz monitor. So you could do it for under $550:

prebuilt
GTX1050ti (cheapest card of this model is fine)

For BF this would be sufficient for 60+fps on high, but not ultra settings.

Yeah I agree you should not build. Notable is the pc is $100 cheaper with free shipping from dell on their new years sale. Also this is $100 cheaper and is a quad core...https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-i5-6400-Windows-ATC-780-AMZi5/dp/B01K1INXJK/ref=zg_bs_565098_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=M16J0SCZYM2Z87SB9FVJ

Turtle,

Take a look at the link listed below. The cost for a mid tower with mouse, keyboard, Windows and all that storage for $400 is a steal. It has the room to add a video card on the PCI-E, plus a SSD should you choose. This machine below would be a significant upgrade to the system you had originally proposed.

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-7400-Windows-TC-780-AMZKi5/dp/B01K1INXJK/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1492084895&sr=1-3&keywords=acer%2Bdesktop&th=1

In a situation like this, you really should just buy a Prebuilt PC like one of these two:

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-6400-Windows-ATC-780-AMZi5/dp/B01K1INXJK/

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ideacentre-300-Computer-90DA00LPUS/dp/B01KLSMWVA/

And throw a 250GB SSD in it.

If she is just using it for browsing the internet, some streaming, and maybe light MS Suite usage you may not need to go to $800 the Acer Aspire TC, Intel Core i5-6400, 8GB DDR4, 2TB HDD, Windows 10 Home can do well for an older family and its for $400, you can bundle with a monitor and get everything for less than $500

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B01M3UKNVD this is the computer he had. So yeah no ssd and the cpu is nothing too great.

I’m in the same situation right now (budget and everything). I’d love to see the pc you’re talking about. The pre built I found was this one and I’d love to see how they compare/if someone can build a better pc for the same price.

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This is a pretty good system and comes with mouse and keyboard CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIFI USB Adapter, Win 10 Home), Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_vRBkzbAKSCDT9

I have the same graphics card and you can 60fps or more at 1080p in all games current games

I assume you don't want to build it yourself. If so, I would recommend trying to find a good prebuilt, esp since with the graphics card shortage you will have a difficult time finding a standalone mid-ranged card.

Some options: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+desktop

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXi10200A-Desktop-i7-7700-7200RPM/dp/B00IMOND82/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-11&keywords=gaming+desktop

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-AM002i-Desktop-Gaming-PC/dp/B01N2RLS05/ref=sr_1_20?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499701908&sr=1-20&keywords=gaming+desktop

http://www.microcenter.com/product/471280/Aspire_AT3-715A-UR11_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/473972/IdeaCentre_710-25_Desktop_Computer

BEST DEAL: http://www.microcenter.com/product/475437/G314_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/474127/G221_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/474288/G151_Desktop_Computer

That said I saw some pre-built PC on amazon that came with RX 480 and pretty good CPU and 8GB RAM that was $800 or something and that's still better than mine (the CPU wasn't maybe quite as good as my i5 but definitely good enough)

edit: I think it was this https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=lp_8588811011_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1497313584&sr=1-5

I recommend

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1497582397&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+computer

get the oculus rift headset on sale(or ebay)

That PC is not a great deal at all. It would be cheaper and would deliver better performance if you built the PC from individual components. Something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $176.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $79.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory | $60.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $48.44 @ OutletPC
Video Card | Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card | $280.98 @ Directron
Case | Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case | $44.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $36.88 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $749.24
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $729.24
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-25 18:41 EDT-0400 |

You'd be looking for a GTX 1060 6GB or RX 580/RX 480 GPU. The reason I say that because there's a shortage now and it might be difficult to find a mid-range GPU for a decent price.

Otherwise if you're completely against building it yourself this would way better then the one you're looking at.

Dropping in a new graphics card is pretty simple, and hard to mess up. I understand not wanting to bother, but I generally encourage everyone to give it a try.

If not, that's fine. I would suggest this system, as a solid, pre-built gaming computer.

This one might be more up your street u/AUTplayed https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01NBL8BER&pd_rd_r=4G47E1F33WTM8G58CKKN&pd_rd_w=TH9mR&pd_rd_wg=mYJrX&psc=1&refRID=4G47E1F33WTM8G58CKKN

Get this CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC and this ASUS VS228H-P 1080p monitor. With a powerful Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz processor, solid AMD RX 480 4GB graphics card, 8GB DDR4 RAM and 1TB 7200RPM HDD, this PC will run Civ VI and even more powerful games, very well.

You would need to upgrade everything on that tower (with the possible exception of storage) to effectively do VR. If you are looking to spend that much on a prebuilt, though, this CyberPowerPC is a much better deal for the money due to the i5-7400 and better upgrade path.

This is a much better deal for only $40 more. But you're right, that's on the better end of the pre-built category.

There's a subreddit /r/suggestmeapc for this. But anyways my sister was in the same boat because she was too afraid to learn how to build a PC for fear of breaking a part, and also because she lives across the country so I can't do it for her.

She ended up getting this PC

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A2 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 480 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM SATA III HDD, 802.11AC WIF https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_nJ2yKmDdjDpAK

Pretty good for the price if I do say so myself. I visited her and checked it out and it was a pretty nice PC, only thing you'd really have to do is switch the power supply out because Cyberpower PC is known for some ass PSUs. Comes with an alright mouse and keyboard too.

I bought this recently and it runs the game really well. Only $720

JOIN US. JOIN US. https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=gaming+pcs&qid=1569968280&s=gateway&sr=8-10 Could even find it for cheaper if you build one or search around. JOIN US.

Is this one good enough for rift S?

I would defnitely have gone for Ryzen 7 1700 if I were building my own but there were several pre-made desktops that I could not have built with the same budget that I bought.
I will provide the link to the one I got to give you an idea.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q3G3B67/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

> red skull summit 16552-1

Okay it appears to be a Dell prebuilt board.

https://picclick.com/Dell-Inspiron-5675-Gaming-AMD-Desktop-Motherboard-AM4-142806302433.html

I generally dont like prebuilts because they use shitty motherboards that dont have much in the way of features or slots for future upgrade paths.

Looks like that board does support NVMe SSD M.2 drives, so you could buy a 1TB Sabrent Rocket M.2 SSD, with a new GPU and possibly some new ram? But you would have to throw away your other 2 sticks.

I'm yet to find out what sort of ram it's running but I'm guessing it's low frequency shitty DDR4 like 2600mhz or lower.

You may find your PSU does not have the required wattage to run a good GPU. Another reason why I hate prebuilts because they often use shitty power supplies that are only rated to run the components in the prebuilt.


Is this your system by the way? https://www.amazon.com.au/Inspiron-Gaming-Desktop-i5676-A696Blu-Processor/dp/B07Q3G3B67

Based on this page someone mentions it's a 460W PSU, so basically to run a better GPU you also need to upgrade the PSU.

I'm sure you can see where this is going....

At this point to upgrade this system for maximizing gaming performance you will need;

• New Power Supply
  
• New GPU
  
• SSD
  
• Possibly new ram....

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=mh_s9_acss_cg_PCDTMC_3b1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-2&pf_rd_r=494SNGVZJK9S6TV31YFR&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=c052157a-9f7d-4371-9a67-cd695e765038&pf_rd_i=565098


This one? It's a decent value. It even comes with a mouse and keyboard. I wish it had 16GB of RAM instead of 8, but you can add more really easily if it becomes a problem.

Also two years down the line you can pop a brand new graphics card into it and be good to go.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1573514743&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t3_B07JJ1ZFKH

I would get that, but I would try to find an identical copy of the 8gb RAM stick in it, and install a 2nd one. 16gb is pretty much needed for new releases. Make sure you put it in the right slot for dual channel config, which runs faster..should only cost you like $35 more

Why is the first PC you linked so much more expensive than this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_jekYDbH6TQ9JZ
It's got the same parts doesn't it?

I found these 2, but for the life of me I couldn't find one with 16GB or RAM.

$710 - CYBERPOWERPC - i5-9400F, B360, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 2400), 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi

$660 - SkyTech - Ryzen 5 2600, GTX 1660, 8GB (1x8GB, 3000), 500G SSD, WiFi

I'm leaning towards the Ryzen pc. I like the faster memory, and while it has less storage, I personally would prefer the larger 500GB SSD over an 240GB SSD + 1TB HDD combo.

One thing to also keep in mind is that it is a single stick of memory. Having 8GB of RAM in dual channel (2 sticks that are 4GB each) is better than single channel (1 stick that is 8GB), but having a single 8GB stick means that in the future, if you do decide to upgrade to 16GB, you will be able to run the most ideal RAM setup for gaming (2 sticks that are 8GB each)

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For reference:

1 stick of RAM that is 8GB 3000 would cost around $30-40. It's a large margin cause ideally you want to buy the same model that is in your current rig so they match. While it isn't required, running RAM at the same speed and latency (and same DRAM cache modules) is ideal.

1-2TB HDDs are around $30-50

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Both of these are also very easy to install.

I posted this last time and want another opinion
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Sorry, I know you know a lot about this stuff, but I have no idea about any. Is this any good also https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile?th=1&psc=1

It's on facebook marketplace (person recently got it but wants laptop), so it's local. Here's the amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4

Sorry to bug you, but I saw this PC on sale for Black Friday. Would that be able to handle Alyx? I think the CPU can, but I'm not sure about the graphics card. I wanted to double check.

Check out these sites for advise on building a PC on a specific budget, and shop around current black friday / Cyber Monday deals new PCs, you can do much better:

https://wccftech.com/pc-builder/

https://pcpartpicker.com/

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4

https://www.newegg.com/PCs-Laptops/EventSaleStore/ID-44?N=100897449%204814&LeftPriceRange=0%20700

Your Pcpartpicker is okay but if you don't want to build one this is better - CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR Gaming PC, Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 8GB DDR4, 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi Ready & Win 10 Home (GXiVR8060A8, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2Ht4DbET449BG but if you do want to build your own go for this one https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/rgj48d/modest-amd-gaming-build

What about this then?
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1570935870&sprefix=gaming+pc&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFZQ05ZSEQyRzVHTlEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA5OTMyOTMyQ0lLOFlQMVQ1MiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODM3NDAxMjNBMlNKWk5XT0VJTiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3Bob25lX3NlYXJjaF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

Is this a good pre built pc?

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=GXiVR8060A8&qid=1575055096&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-1

Is this a good pc for playing games like rust? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=psdc_13896597011_t3_B07TR79GS7?th=1

here's a good build with a (somewhat) decent price

Beats any console out of the water

Here is one with 16gn of ram but no ssd for 630 on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=rx+580+r7+2700+desktop&qid=1571030006&sr=8-1

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H2NQKB - $510, though I highly recommend getting an SSD rather than a hard drive and getting 16GB of RAM rather than 8GB. I'd also learn how to build one yourself rather than getting a prebuilt, it'll save you a lot of cash (not to mention it's way more fun) - just look up some online tutorials, we all had to start somewhere.

EDIT: Here's a prebuilt alternative with similar specs: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67

Could you make a parts list for about... $600-700? Also is this pc any good? https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

I don't think I'm educated enough to extract that information, but I can link PC's of that helps.

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> Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD

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> My specs are GTX 970, i7-4770, 16GB RAM and Windows installed on an SSD

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> Is this a good pc for playing games like rust? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=psdc_13896597011_t3_B07TR79GS7?th=1

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> My sister wants to buy a new computer and she was looking at these three:
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> Microsoft Surface Laptop 3
> Huawei MateBook 13
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> These all look more expensive than she probably needs.
> She mostly uses it to surf the web, do word documents, maybe stream some music or a movie. Nothing too elaborate.
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> Monitor, mouse and keyboard unable to connect with computer, already changed the motherboard, clean the ram sticks, take out the cmos battery (didn't change it) what other things I have to do? Is the CPU?

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https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1574050883&s=electronics&sr=1-9

This seems in your budget. It is way better for the price than the iBuyPower

I found 3 pc under 1000$
The first one is the best but I put some in cheaper options


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-3700x-16gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hard-drive-240gb-ssd-white/6362426.p?skuId=6362426


https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1571946972&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580790011&s=pc&sr=1-2


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362427.p?skuId=6362427

This is a much better deal https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1571615867&sr=8-6 if you have a bit more go for https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B07RHBLV7F/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1571615867&sr=8-13

if you want to stay on the prebuilt route, this Dell Inspiron will work just fine. It’s a Ryzen 2700 and a RX 580, and $630 usd.

To be honest, if you are gaming and want a great experience, you could build a really amazing PC for $800.

If you are looking in the $600-$700 range though, I know the Dell Inspiron AMD Ryzen 7 is a great prebuilt computer; you get a graphics card capable of handling 1080P gaming right off the bat with 16GB of DRAM which is great as well. I don't like that it has an HDD however; but it is 1TB and is very easy to swap out for an SSD.

Also, if you were looking to spend slightly more, I believe the CyberPower PC Gamer Xtreme VR is an excellent choice as well; but again, HDD kinda sucks. Let me know if you have any questions about anything, just PM me and I'd be glad to help you!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Q3G3B67/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=cashsaving-20&linkId=606dd48656283d4b48000414b4a5bc3e&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

Just based on what you were saying would this be an ideal pick then?
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8080A4-i7-9700K-GeForce/dp/B07VGJDKZ4?imprToken=nCyp5R1mei-BA2r3hJCXOw&slotNum=53&psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAI2ESEKXPBIRHV7EQ&tag=migowc-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B07J24TMGD&th=1

That makes it less bad then, but the deal breaker is no SSD. Nobody should be booting off of a hdd anymore.

A quick amazon.ca search brought up this.

https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4?ref_=Oct_BSellerC_677250011_2&pf_rd_p=9448cb40-999a-5616-b9d4-e484b89d1747&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-10&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=677250011&pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_r=7XZ5QJG1WKF41T81DA77&pf_rd_r=7XZ5QJG1WKF41T81DA77&pf_rd_p=9448cb40-999a-5616-b9d4-e484b89d1747

100$ more, but a 9th gen 6 core, and a 1660 6gb gfx, and comes with a 240gb sdd + 1tb hdd. But only 8gb of ram. But that's an easy upgrade.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=rx+580+pc&qid=1571095909&sr=8-3

This PC will absolutely run Rainbow Six: Siege at over 100 FPS on low settings, 1080p. The RX 580 is a great graphics card for esports as it's more economic in terms of price, but provides excellent FPS. The CPU is previous generation, but not outdated, and is still viable in 2019 (and will still be viable in 2020, 2021, and 2022). 16 GB of RAM will allow you to have Siege open, simultaneously with Chrome, Discord, and OBS (if you're into recording gameplay, or streaming).

At the moment, Prebuilt computers are actually the most economic way to go at the moment because of the whole cryptocurrency mining thing going on atm. But that may change in a year.

Gaming laptops are going to be a lot more than 500 dollars, but a decent computer with the capabilities to play games shouldn't be much more than 500.

I don't know how much you need to run Sims 4 but this computer should play most games fairly well.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/?coliid=I351BA7O2V2EM1&colid=H4JY95NTZX2D&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

A similarly specced computer. You could skimp on some things but I think a case should be pleasing to look at. As you can see a lot of the savings is in windows being included.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i5-7400 3GHz Quad-Core Processor | $177.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $24.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $49.90 @ OutletPC
Memory | Crucial - Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $82.85 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $46.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GT OC Video Card | $274.88 @ OutletPC
Case | NZXT - S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case | $59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.95 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $89.89 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $896.84
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| Total | $846.84
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-04 22:51 EST-0500 |

If you are talking about this:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

Then you can use either an M.2 or a 2.5 SATA SSD.

The generic answer would be "yes".

You don't need to get an $1000 computer. For something like Scrap Mechanic, you can get a computer that will run it (and most games) for like $500.

Edit: For example, here's a computer you could build yourself that would have no problem running most games at 1080p on medium-high. Total is under $500. There are some decent prebuilt computers you can get for around $700, like this one.

As a follow up, how does OP's linked PC compare to the following one:
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527039488&sr=8-1&keywords=hp+1060

Roughly $500? I'd recommend keeping an eye on this.

HP Pavilion Power 580-023w

Right now it says $638 for used, but new refurbished deals show up on it every now and then. A few weeks ago it was refurbished for $500, and it was again for a couple days for $502 when I bought it. The only thing it's missing is a SSD, which I popped in my old one, or you can buy one for pretty cheap.

As for how good it runs GW2? It looks like I'm able to record in 1920x1080p in raids at medium settings at a steady 60+fps. So I'd recommend keeping an eye on that page, or head over to /r/buildapcsales where pretty good deals get posted. Keep an eye out for deals on computers with similar specs, for a similar price. They sell out within a day though usually, so keep at it

No SSD.

Buying a new one that fits my needs + amazon shipping pushes the price up to about 800 not including the fact that I don't like personally installing hardware.

That and - there's a PC with almost the exact same standards in the HP pav. also on amazon, for about 100 bucks cheaper without the wifi (which I don't need) and the Vr (which I don't want).

Will keep it in mind though.

You'd need to spend a little over $850 before taxes to have enough horsepower to run either SEUS Renewed or the high preset for SEUS v11 at a render distance around 12, depending on the version of SEUS. Might be able to bump that up a bit with some setting tweaks.

The build below should do the trick.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor | $109.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler | CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler | $19.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | *Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $101.98 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory | $91.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $46.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card | *EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card | $364.98 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case | $48.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $62.41 @ Amazon
Case Fan | Cooler Master - R4-C2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan | $6.69 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Cooler Master - R4-C2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan | $6.69 @ OutletPC
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $859.99
| *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-23 08:23 EST-0500 |

A build of this caliber would have cost around $600 a few years ago. Stupid crypto miners :(

 

Prebuilts usually cut corners in one way or another. I managed to find a rather decent one for $720 here on Amazon; it isn't half bad.

Four key differences from the above parts list:

• Processor is from the previous generation.
  
• This means it'd be a tad less powerful.
  
• This also means that the upgrade path isn't exactly the greatest.
  
• Motherboard has only two RAM slots.
  
• This would limit future RAM upgrades.
  
• The included graphics card is a GTX 1060 3GB.
  
• Aside from the obvious difference in VRAM, the 3GB model of the GTX 1060 has a few less CUDA cores than the 6GB model.
  
• This means the 3GB model will perform a bit worse than the 6GB model.
  
• Cooling all-around isn't so great.
  
• The heatsink for the processor is a stock Intel heatsink.
  
  • Stock Intel heatsinks aren't really intended for gaming or other high-end uses.
    
• Only comes with one case fan.
  
  This prebuilt is one of those decent all rounders. There are a few cut corners, but it'll end up performing just fine as long as you don't keep it in a warm room.
  
   
  
  If you can swing it, I'd still recommend gathering the parts and building a PC over getting a prebuilt.

UPDATE (act fast): same specs for $500 on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B077S27YLP/ref=olp_tab_all

Better deal:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077S27YLP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AP9SL6ONU98K8&psc=1#HLCXComparisonWidget_feature_div

Parts on that PC are outdated. Get this one.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all

what would it cost for you to build? what are prices like in Austrailla?

Its an okay deal.


Try checking prebuilts? Disregard my post, The Prebuilt was on sale for $450.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Not really worth it man, but it is a solid built that won't disappoint you if you do go for it.

The 580 4gb is an effing great card and is a bit better than the 1060 3gb, but [here on Amazon we can see this HP Pavillion gaming desktop] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all) with almost identical specs, go for $200 less. It may be refurbished, but $200+ of a jump in price is not worth it for a 580 4gb, even if the entire build is completely new.

The [HP Pavillion gaming desktop] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all) is very solid at $580 used, but it drops down to maybe as low as $520 at some points and is constantly posted here. The 3gb 1060 sounds really bad in theory, but it's not going to be too far off from the 580 4gb. Like lower down shadows from high to medium, and you've got yourself a card that's identical to the 580 4gb.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B077S27YLP/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Would this be a better alternative?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077S27YLP/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It was pulled from this prebuilt.

Here is a parts list I put together. It's not optimized but I built it to compare it to this prebuilt on Amazon.

The Amazon PC comes with a keyboard and mouse, and a copy of Windows as well. Not too long ago the parts list would be like $200-$300 cheaper.

I wouldn't build a computer this way. I would use an R5 1600 instead of the i7, but I just wanted to compare prices.

iBUYPOWER Gaming PC Desktop 9200 i7-8700K 6-Core 3.7 GHz | Liquid Cooled| GeForce GTX 1070 Graphics | 16GB DDR4| 1TB HDD | 240GB SSD | Windows 10 Home 64-bit | WiFi| VR Ready | Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078H7WQ8B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wANGAb3BJE29T

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078H7WQ8B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_91zEAbFPJX6QB

I'm thinking about just going with this prebuilt for now and swapping the parts I already have into it. I have a good PSU (EVGA 750 G3) and 500gb SSD (Samsung 850 EVO) that I can throw into the prebuilt. I was originally going to go with an i5-8600k and a 1070 for now considering the prices but this gets me a i7-8700k for the same price as their 8600k option, both with a 1070.

Main purpose would be simracing, eventually with VR. Is this a good value at $1400 given the current market for RAM and GPUs?

The reviews on this look promising...
https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-9200-i7-8700K-Graphics/dp/B078H7WQ8B/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1522029859&sr=1-4&keywords=desktop+liquid+cooled

https://imgur.com/RrC2u9C
thats the tab that pops up

and this is the computer: https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-9200-i7-8700K-Graphics/dp/B078H7WQ8B/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1521423303&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+pc

GPUs are crazy expensive right now but something like this might work for you better.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-9200-i7-8700K-Graphics/dp/B078H7WQ8B/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1521207369&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+pc

It is permanently red. I actually usually run everything black and white, but of course I couldn’t be all mismatched for my big reveal :)

Here is the link.

I checked them out and have been comparing it to the https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Desktop-9200-i7-8700K-Graphics/dp/B078H7WQ8B/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1522517175&sr=1-3&keywords=ibuypower and https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1522517350&sr=1-5&keywords=ibuypower

Any recommendations?

It's the normal price, most prebuilt haven't been effected by mining. I might even consider bumping up to the 8700k model.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B078H7WQ8B/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile

Just so you know, if you message ibuypower through amazon you can sometimes get them to swap parts (different cooler, specific gpu model etc.)

Which to choose? Alienware Aurora 1080gtx or Ibuypowerpc 1070?

I'd probably go with the Aurora upgraded to a 1080 for $1500 but it might be up to a 1.5 month wait for it http://deals.dell.com/mpp/productdetail/wx0

Or

I could get this tomorrow for $1500 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H7WQ8B/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

What would you do? Im basically always playing FPS and nearly always Squad. I'm not hardcore but I would love a few years of longevity. Also need to upgrade my 1080p

Went with :https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H7WQ8B/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Has a 1070, an SSD, good ram. Solid specs, no clue if there's better options but ya.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078H7WQ8B/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1522035642&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51etS6wvI7L&ref=plSrch

that pretty much is the build, just with different random motherboards and stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H7WQ8B/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Here's the one we were gonna buy but it went out of stock today. All the ones i've been looking at have the stuff i listed with liquid cooling on the CPU + a decent "gaming" motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

I have this case but I'm unsure what motherboard sizes it can hold.

Something like this would do the job. Really any desktop with a decent CPU and dedicated graphics card (either Nvidia or AMD graphics, not intel) will do what you're looking for.

It's $800 without a graphics card and then has options all the way up to $2k depending on the graphics card you have him put in it. I don't know anything about graphics cards and am not sure what I would actually need just to play a game like Overwatch. I've also been looking at this build on amazon that has a graphics card included and think it may be a better option. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1550353914&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+computer#customerReviews

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Thanks for the reply.

Check this out on Amazon: $779 CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A5 .. just add a monitor.

> do you have any recommendations my budget is 900

You should definitely do your do-diligence on this as I'm not the best source for that kind of information. However, a quick look at Amazon got me this result. The specs seem to offer pretty decent mid-range performance, and comes with a keyboard and mouse. It doesn't come with a monitor, so you'll need to look into that.

Maybe check out that subreddit the other guy posted. Ask them for suggestions.

this guy: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

I wouldn't say this is a good deal either...but it's not half as bad as your op one.

Head over to r/bapcsalescanada and look

A prebuilt PC will save you a lot of trouble and time especially if you have no experience but is usually $100 or more than if you build it yourself. There are some great deals out there though that can reduce that gap.

Here's a $750 prebuild: Amazon Link
Prebuilt PCs also have limited warranty so do take note of that.

Similar specs (but probably slightly better quality) if you build yourself would actually cost a bit more ($790): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zsfvvn

Note that it's still not best bang for the buck (580 4GB only, no SSD, bad PSU, etc.). Something like this would be better: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXtnMZ

If you have more to spend, upgrade to 16GB of RAM.

Thoughts on CyberPowerPC brand?

Specifically looking at this PC:

https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A5-i5-8400-802-11AC-Adapter/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_28?m=AUJBRIGYRJ3Q8&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1540264356&sr=1-28

The reviews on Amazon.ca says its good, but the reviews I found for CyberPowerPC doesn't seems good at all.

Alternatively was going to make: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/AlphaEtOmega/saved/#view=bhwyXL

But thats another story (since i'll probably change the case etc..)

Thanks in advance!

Thank's. Normally I don't trust used stuff. I'm thinking of saving up a couple hundred more and getting this.

No, don't get that pc, its trash. If you want prebuilt and on a budget, this PC will work for sure:

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Archangel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP

I see other people listed components, just remember you still need to add Windows + claiming MIR, but if you don't want to build a PC, then Skytech should fit your need. If you have $50 more, this one is slightly better spec:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

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Apologies,

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A5 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 6 Core Processor, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home 64-bit), Black - VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_eEwTBb4WWY4Y6

For around $900 you should be looking for a machine with, roughly,

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 or 2600X or Intel i5-8400
  
• GPU: AMD RX 580 or Nvidia GTX 1060
  
• RAM: 8GB DDR4 at 3000MHz clock or better
  
• Storage: 500GB to 1TB, preferably SSD
  
  Look at the specs you're getting and try not to get ripped off. For example, at the time of writing this is going for $800 and is fairly reasonable.

Besides that, would you recommend this one or this

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542822419&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&psc=1

Don’t know if this is ok, but can someone please tell me if This Pc would be compatible with This 2TB hard drive ? Thank you guys so much!

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A5 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 6 Core Processor, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home 64-bit), Black - VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_JxV5BbWNSMXXZ

If you are interested in a prebuilt this could work, you can add an SSD if you want

Here try this one, it's the one I use and it runs stuff like Rainbow Six at decently high graphics very well :)

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

I assume building your own PC would be cheaper but if your like me and don’t know how, I would suggest this. This is what I bought off Amazon, runs Assetto Corsa and ACC at max settings no problem.


CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8020A5 Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4, AMD RX 580 4GB, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi Adapter & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ICdZCb4ZQVHX1

For prebuilt I find this one is decent: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1538679530&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+desktop&dpPl=1&dpID=510JZUGMO6L&ref=plSrch. It goes on sale quite often too. If you're willing to build yourself expect to pay $600-1000. Here's a quick build I put together: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t8y33b. Keep in mind you'll still need a mouse / keyboard / monitor / os(you can get windows for $5 off eBay). I'd personally suggest looking for a used graphic card / ram over at /r/hardwareswap though. Even though the games you listed aren't demanding I'd still suggest getting a gtx1060 or Rx 580 minimum as your first card.

This was the Amazon #1 recommend for gaming pc back in July or August:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=lp_8588811011_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1540912863&sr=1-3

It ended up being super loud and heats up in 5 minutes of GW2 running, plus the sucky graphic.

And I mentioned I like to stay under $1200 budget. :/

> ibuypower and cyberpowerpc are my go to recommendations

as someone just starting out, what makes them better than the other big names? /r/buildapc was dumping pretty hard on
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-7806BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Desktop-i7-8700

while recommending https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY which seems to have lower stats all around

Is this about as good , or would I better off building? https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY?tag=edit-tech-round-up-20&ascsubtag=c7997d56-e15a-433c-8e28-b507142bd422

I'd say that's a decent starter system but definitely not for that hefty price tag. Ever consider building a system yourself? Would cost you a fair bit less for potentially better parts also.

Edit:

I don't live in America but this seems more like it, if anyone could correct me or find something better? :)

Link

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

price was $699 when I got it so maybe wait for the price to drop again, or not. After comparing the parts prices to this rig, I don't think I could built this rig for cheaper myself, which is why I got 2 of them. Comes with a keyboard and mouse, but you will have to have monitor or TV, probably an HDMI cable (can get an amazon one for cheap).

Only thing I would recommend would be to replace the 1 TB HDD with a 1 TB SSD drive. This rig runs the game amazingly well, but man are the load times terrible, and I isolated that to it not having an SSD drive. I plan to get one myself.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Tq.RDbX2NSX46
This was the pre build I bought, when I looked it up it said 500w

Thank you so much for the help! I also saw this PC on amazon, any thoughts on this, thanks!

Also i am not absolutely sure on getting a dual monitor, when i looked around people said this is a good one. What are your thoughts on this? Thank you.

Also, if you have any keyboard or mouse you can recommend that would be great.

Don't use referral links. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvpv2_3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=2708083022714283574&pd_rd_wg=j5Od0&pf_rd_r=SF8N4KSDM5WJ52B45NMF&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B07B6H4GNY&pd_rd_w=Ne5OX&pf_rd_i=GUA2600BST&pd_rd_r=83a512f4-e09f-493a-8dab-1c679adc3782&ie=UTF8&qid=1526900928&sr=3

I’m thinking of buying a cyber power pc for gaming and streaming would this pc be good for what I need?

: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_shCcBb08E4Q35

this is the pc i bought recently,
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY

so amd rx 580

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_gdJ-Ab16K6FC9

What about something like this?

16 Gigs of memory and a R7 1700 CPU is very impressive for a Pre-Bulit under 1000. However, the Rx 550 is really underwhelming for an $800 PC. I’d say go for it if you don’t run too many heavy games, but if you do, here’s a Pre-Built on Amazon that would perform much better in most games for the same price in exchange for less Ram: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1526083787&sr=1-1&keywords=Gaming+PC (Though let me go ahead and say, building a PC is much better value than either of these.)

Edit: Here is the comparison between the RX 580 and the RX 550: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-AMD-RX-550/3923vs3925

Whoops sorry, namely just something to run over watch and rainbow six at medium
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iw38AbNS39RPN
Vs
Https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3UKNVD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Pp48AbKDKCC51

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1525271243&sr=1-12&refinements=p_36%3A2421882011

or

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=twister_B076HWTRK6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Those are prebuilts. You might get more mileage for your money if you build your own.

If you want to build your own then maybe something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/srvGq4

FYI these are not mine but things I seen people recomending.

The FX-6300 is a 6 year old CPU that has no business being paired with a modern GPU. If I were you I'd spend an extra 50$ and get this:


https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527709706&sr=1-3&keywords=cyberpowerpc

It has a vastly superior CPU, significantly better GPU, and includes a mouse and keyboard.

Hey guys, I built my pc a few years ago but i am now in college and am unable to ship it here. I am about to buy a mid tier prebuilt pc + peripherals for my dorm room. I just want to make sure everything is compatible and i have everything i need, i dont want to realize that i am missing some important cable or something is not compatible. Links below!

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Ive already done a fair bit of research so i think im good to go, but just wanted to get some other opinions! FYI I am pretty set on buying everything from amazon. Thanks guys!

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PC

ETHERNET CABLE

HEADSET

MOUSE

KEYBOARD

MONITOR

Trying to decide between there 2 builds.
One has a SSD the other doesn't..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B6H4GNY/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B0757DVF4Z

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757DVF4Z/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

This is Prob best prebuilt for less than 800, you could do something potentially cheaper if you built but if your not sure how to build yourself and don't want to learn how to. If you do want to learn how to build, I can throw a list together.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B6H4GNY/ref=psdcmw_13896597011_t1_B0757DVF4Z

Nothing special, bought this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B6H4GNY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 when it was on sale for 800 at the time as a quick replacement. Added a basic SDD.

I do not know.. It's this.. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B6H4GNY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

What's the next limiting factor to improve my gaming experience with this machine beyond getting an SSD?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B6H4GNY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ok dude what PC is better? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075LVK78B/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1527444566&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=HP+pavilion+power&dpPl=1&dpID=41zeAkmpqDL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B6H4GNY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1527447772&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&dpPl=1&dpID=510JZUGMO6L&ref=plSrch

I would buy this one, it is not terribly expensive and it can be somewhat upgraded in the future.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B6H4GNY/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1527453335&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cybertron+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=510JZUGMO6L&ref=plSrch

Here are the linkes

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Custom: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/sbeatty1234321/saved/#view=nDPvWZ

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HP Pavilion: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_7?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=64XZ7WA5XG67NT8125Z8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=29599084-c48d-4d08-a811-5974918d523b&pf_rd_i=15201447011

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0010/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?keywords=ryzen%2Bpc&qid=1562916830&s=gateway&sr=8-13&th=1&psc=1 go for the most expensive option it will go plenty over 120fps

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ

Appreciate the head's up! Honestly I don't know enough about computers to feel super comfortable purchasing something second hand. How does that compare to this deal on Amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=MYPY1Q27NNAHK0GBKRJ8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=7812fd9d-7617-4125-954d-9eb9d86d507b&pf_rd_i=15201447011

This isn't a bad deal. There's a few things to criticize, but not the price. It should meet your father's needs. (Currently $480. Don't pay more.)

Here is the pc

Amazon.com: HP Pavilion Gaming PC Desktop Computer, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, AMD Radeon RX 580, 8GB RAM, 1TB hard drive, Windows 10 (690-0020, Black): Computers & Accessories
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ

Monitor I was considering Was evidently a flash sale that is now over 😩

Here you go:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_8?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=KPSWC2NFDF4RGQS9NMJ0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=06e82be3-68aa-4d3a-9d5e-cf37d12730f4&pf_rd_i=15201447011

You're not getting many helpful responses that take into account that you might not want to build a PC yourself. This deal is decent and stays around your budget:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ

The one crummy thing about it is that it has a hard drive instead of an SSD, so load times will suffer and it will feel generally "slow." Luckily it is very simple to replace a hard drive with a cheap SSD, and reinstalling Windows is easy to do. If you literally only play WoW, you might be fine keeping the hard drive - but otherwise, I'd buy a cheap 2.5" SSD (256GB or higher) and swap out the hard drive.

If you're interested in building a PC and purchasing individual components, disregard everything I've said and check out r/buildapcsales and PCPartPicker.com - they have sections with builds for every price range.

For gaming this is worth it https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-graphics-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

If you have Prime, or know someone who does this is available with prime days for $479.99 -

HP Pavilion Gaming PC Desktop Computer, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_pi_dp_U_x_JrklDbPW99W49

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ

Edit: prebuilt included at bottom of post.

If your issue with building a pc is taking time to select parts, you can have the friendly people at r/buildapcforme put together a list of parts for you, and then you'd only have to visit their neatly organized set of links and put the items in your cart (usually just on amazon.com and newegg.com, occasionally ebay.com as well).

As for prebuilts, just look for something cheap. Basically anything nowadays can run the games you've listed.

If you want to go for dirt cheap, and don't mind ordering parts, you can build a computer with the ryzen 3200g APU (no dedicated GPU), 8 GB of RAM, and a b450 motherboard for... cheap. Just off the top of my head... $100 for the CPU (Actually APU), 8 GB RAM, currently $30ish, though usually around $50 (and the prices are in flux right now), Almost $100 for a motherboard with wifi, though this can be $50 if you plug it into your home router with an ethernet cable. Add a $50 case, a more than adequate, good quality $50 PSU, as well as a small-ish SSD (the linked one is a 512 GB priced at $70) and you've got yourself a completed build. Note that you'll need a desk, chair, monitor, speakers/headset, keyboard, and mouse to use this as well, and a pci-e wireless adapter if you want wifi (assuming you didn't spring for the motherboard that has built in wifi.)

Edit: Ran that through a calculator. Assuming that RAM ends up costing you $50 instead of $30, and you spring for the motherboard with WIFI, your computer will cost $350 $420. A monitor, keyboard, and mouse will jack the price up another $150ish, since most decent 1080p monitors are $100 new. You'll also need speakers, or a headset. I've edited my list above to add this, but didn't factor in price. You're most likely looking at an additional $200 for perhipials, including moniotor, if you go the cheap route; this also assumes that you have a desk (any kind that will fit a monitor, keyboard, and mouse up top, in addition to your computer tower below, will suffice) and a chair to sit in.

If you want to go the laptop route, used gaming laptops with a 960m or similar dedicated GPU usually go for about $500-$600 on Ebay. Feel free to shop around; I recommend looking specifically for a model that has support for an M.2 SSD, as you can rock a small (200-512 GB range) m.2 SSD in addition to a large (but cheap) 1 or 2 TB laptop (2.5 inch) HDD. Install the OS to the SSD, and enjoy fast as hell computer speeds; install games to the HDD and enjoy vast amounts of storage for super cheap. (This can also be done for your desktop, but most laptops only support 1 SATA storage device.)

And, hey would you look at that. I forgot to include a storage device in your system build! I'll add it in and adjust the price accordingly (probably up $50, for a total of $400.)

For comparison, I found this prebuilt computer It's got a better GPU, but the CPU is a generation behind what I've listed. It even seems to come with a keyboard and mouse. All in all, a better gaming machine, but with a price tag to reflect it; It was at $580 when I posted the link. Which honestly isn't all that bad. At all.

You know what. Screw the rest of my post. Buy that prebuilt and you're all set. Well, except for the monitor. And maybe Wifi? And speakers. But still, it's a good price. Note: There's a $530 option, the GPU is a massive downgrade and it's not worth saving $50 to get it instead of the $580 computer. Although, truthfully, both will serve your needs just fine.

Gaming rig that can run iRacing at full bore

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=dp_ob_title_ce $630

Wheel.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1559195389&sr=1-2 $150

but if you have a console (PS4 or Xbox One) wheel, it should work fine with Windows....just gotta download the drivers for it. if its a G29 or G920 then it should work fine, just download the drivers.

This pre-build would be great. It would absolutely crush Fortnite on max setting as well as allow the gamer to play other top end titles for a good while. You would need to still pick up a monitor however.

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This HP Pavillion also offers similar specs at a lower price point if you wanted to get a monitor within that budget.

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If you don't want to build a PC this HP w/2400g would do you well.

HP Pavilion Gaming PC Desktop Computer, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, AMD Radeon RX 580, 8GB RAM, 1TB hard drive, Windows 10 (690-0020, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6lPKBb2D42RW5

Here is the link guys. I should have included it earlier

For reference. Here's what I bought.

HP Pavilion Gaming PC Desktop Computer, AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, AMD Radeon RX 580, 8GB RAM, 1TB hard drive, Windows 10 (690-0020, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_BBITDbXZKY94X

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=sspa_mb_hqp_detail_mobile_aax_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is a much better proper pre-built thatl last you 2-4 years for mmos or games like Dota 2. It can play most current AAA titles on high/max too

How’s this. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

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I have been interested in building a computer for a while now, but wasn't qute sure how worth it it was and am usually a pretty busy person. Today I came accross this deal on amazon: (Ibuypowerpcdeal), and as such am kinda looking for some sort of litmus test. Would building my own PC be cheaper, more expensive, comparable to this If i wanted the same or comparable specs? Would the quality be the same? Etc. Any advice or help would be most appreciated!

I'd suggest this instead (sorry apparently it sold out):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=as_li_ss_tl?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=8B2GJW1ASV6R21ZZE7JY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=06e82be3-68aa-4d3a-9d5e-cf37d12730f4&pf_rd_i=15201447011&linkCode=sl1&tag=vergeprimeday19-20&linkId=154de7812b37c61c2faeb62bd379ced1&language=en_US

It's a 9700k with liquid cooling, and 2070 for $1200.

EDIT: Sorry looks like it sold out sometime. I'd suggest aiming for the cheapest 9700k + 16Gb ram + GTX 2070 or better you can get. For that much money you should probably be trying to get a 2080 or 2070 super.


As per this video https://youtu.be/ikBYHYsdhhE?t=1015 9700k is currently the best gaming ONLY value/dollar.

I found these two: https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-i7-9700k-9230/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=cm_cr_srp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Supreme-SLC10200CPG-i9-9900K-GeForce/dp/B07J1W2NHB/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?crid=2YQ4MLKL6E9S2&keywords=prebuilt+gaming+pc&pd_rd_i=B07J1W2NHB&pd_rd_r=3f802a19-105f-406f-96d8-305677f2e681&pd_rd_w=MMXZq&pd_rd_wg=39VLV&pf_rd_p=a6d018ad-f20b-46c9-8920-433972c7d9b7&pf_rd_r=AEA8P5WFS3CEKAPP8V1J&qid=1563208993&refinements=p_36%3A140000-150000&rnid=386442011&s=electronics&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=prebuilt+g%2Celectronics%2C172

The first one is better value for the price (your saving around $250).

The second one is right around the price you'd pay to build it yourself and has better specs (i9 9900k and more SSD space).

Pick your poison.

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-i7-9700k-9230/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1564934535&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580790011&s=pc&sr=1-1 would this work for higher end games?

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-i7-9700k-9230/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?hvadid=77653059526453&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=m&hvqmt=b&keywords=gaming+pc+intel+i7&qid=1558449543&s=gateway&sr=8-4
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https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-i7-9700k-9230/dp/B07J5RPC32 this is my computer although i got it from costco, and they dont seem to have it anymore. I was able to control the lights on the cooler and in the system just fine from the bios and the polychrome software until i updated the boards bios a while ago. Now when i open the poly chrome software, it says "Access violation at address 0055E5A8 in module 'AsrPolychromeRGB.exe'.Read of adress FFFFFFEC" and wont open. Ive tried different version of the software, but nothing works.

In this vein, though, thoughts on this PC?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J5RPC32/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It seems like it's underpriced compared to PCPartPicker. Price might be a glitch.

Please forgive my noobishness here, but to my very untrained eye, it seems like this pre-built Prime Day deal has basically the same or better parts for a bit cheaper? I mean the 1 TB SSD sounds like an upgrade, but that's not exactly the most important part of the rig, right? Please tell me if I'm wrong here, it doesn't seem like this can be the case.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J5RPC32/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Is this worth it?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J5RPC32/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yup! Ended up going with this build:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J5RPC32/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and this monitor:

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2719dgf/apd/210-arcj/monitors-monitor-accessories

This actually was $300.00 flat on the Dell website a few days ago but I just checked and it's $300.00 at Best Buy still. I was able to price match at Frys. Pretty damn good deal.

I was browsing amazon prime myself and saw this setup:

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=zg_bs_565098_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GH9K9VJ5ESSXG622SS8K

Seems like some good bang for your buck, I know its slightly over your $500 budget. Thoughts anyone?

It’s Canadian btw https://www.amazon.ca/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=cyberpower+gaming&qid=1563001381&s=gateway&sr=8-1

If you have prime you might want to shoot for this pc instead https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_b9olDb4232QTG

Hey guys. Here’s the link. CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A7 Gaming PC (Intel i5-9400F 2.9GHz 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_58ilDb9A1A6PD

Not interested in building a pc but getting a pre built one. Is this one a good deal? https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN

Actually found this build on prime that might be better than both options you found on Newegg - CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A7 Gaming PC (Intel i5-9400F 2.9GHz 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 802.11AC WiFi & Win 10 Home) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_lWmlDbYYEXRDZ

Can you spend a little more and get this one?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_fJllDb3GAVQ4D

This is probably the best bang for your buck for a prebuilt pc.

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=GXiVR8060A7&qid=1564688853&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Has a gtx 1660 and an i5-9400f which will let you play most games at 120fps+. Only downside to it is the 8gb ram.

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1562043578&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=cyberpowerpc&qid=1562249892&s=gateway&sr=8-2

then this is the minimum I would go with.

I was thinking about this and just installing my current SSD. Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A7/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=sr_1_3?crid=257JNLELTS1OK&keywords=prebuilt+gaming+pc&qid=1569188976&s=electronics&sprefix=pre+built+ga%2Celectronics%2C142&sr=1-3

This would be more than enough for WoW classic and a bunch of other modern games if you want to just click buy and have it all work. It’s $749 on Amazon Warehouse Deals (i Buy everything from Warehouse Deals if available. Have yet to have anything defective).

Here's the link https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_s6aEDb5ZN3ETZ

Yeah, here’s a link to it on Amazon

cyberpower pc

It’s really good for a prebuilt

More RAM and bigger SSD and there’s a 99.99% chance these are higher quality parts than in the prebuilt, and it has a PSU that is definitely better

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor | $154.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard | ASRock - B365M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $79.99 @ Newegg
Memory | GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $75.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Crucial - BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $28.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card | $214.99 @ Amazon
Case | Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case | $89.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $61.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $771.69
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $751.69
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-08 16:24 EDT-0400 |

Keep in mind that this PC is on sale


https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=%241000%2Bpc&qid=1557341994&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme VR... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKXQBHN?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-GXiVR8060A7-i5-9400F-GeForce-802-11AC/dp/B07PKXQBHN/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=cyberpower%2Bgaming%2Bpc&qid=1563204709&s=gateway&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=cyberpower%2B&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

Looking for a gaming PC to buy while in college, I mainly play csgo and need to run it at above 144 fps. Are these good options? And if so, which is better? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PKXQBHN/ref=mh_s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_9?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=GFMED2Y4Q04GAM0JJHDQ&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=afb47b96-3caa-4ebf-b6bb-b2e8ca24ba80&pf_rd_i=15201447011
And https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07CH38T1S/ref=mh_s9_acsd_bw_wf_a_BTSmainw_cdl_8?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=GFMED2Y4Q04GAM0JJHDQ&pf_rd_t=1201&pf_rd_p=afb47b96-3caa-4ebf-b6bb-b2e8ca24ba80&pf_rd_i=15201447011
Thank you!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PKXQBHN/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 this or a 3600 build

Looks like it jumped up to 799 now, but here's the link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PKXQBHN?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

is that better than this one?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PKXQBHN/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_PCDTMC_2d1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=57A6TGWXQ47D7GWJKYE4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=06e9ee76-d6ac-4f84-8c32-01dc267a3e2b&pf_rd_i=565098

Hello all. Looking to receive a little information that will hopefully help me make an informed and effective purchase of a new PC. I'm hoping to get something pretty heavy duty that can handle my music production/content creation, as well as some gaming capabilities. Saving money would be great, but first and foremost I need a PC that will be powerful enough to handle all my tasks.

I've been looking on Amazon primarily, and have found some interesting options. It seems to me a desktop would afford me the highest performance for the least price compared to a laptop. From what I gather, something with at least 3.5 GHz processor, 16 Gigs of RAM and a good graphics card is what I'll need to get everything done.

This for example seems to be a little too good to be true. 16 Gigs of RAM, 3.5 GHz processor speed. What is the catch? Maybe the graphics card wouldn't be strong enough to support any gaming capabilities. Or the fact that it is a refurbished product?

This Dell Gaming Desktop seems a little more legit. Quite a reasonable price, seems to have the processing, RAM and Graphics capabilities I would need. But is it adequate? Would I be struggling with some games? Would heavy projects in Ableton be too much for it?

So in summation, what is the difference between these mini desktop PCs that are going for just a couple hundred dollars, and the full size gaming desktops that I'm seeing? And further, what is the difference between a relatively inexpensive gaming tower like the Dell I linked, and a more serious gaming tower from a known gaming brand that will be starting closer to the 1200+ range.

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Thank you in advance for any help you guys are able to give me!

Wondering how these specs would do in the VR world. Not up to building a custom rig.

$480 (used)
CPU: i5 7600k
CPU Fan Heatsink: Thermaltake slim X3
GPU: XFX RX 580 8GB
PSU: EVGA 500 B
SSD: 240GB Kingston, 240GB PNY (480GB Total)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB x2 DDR4 (16GB Total)
MOBO: MSI MORTAR Z270M
CASE: Thermaltake Versa H17
PCI-E Ethernet Adapter: TP-Link Gigabit Network Adapter (TG-3468)
OS: Windows 10 Professional

Alternatively:

$700 (new)
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B07Q3G3B67

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1564772400&s=gateway&sr=8-3

This is the best price if you don't care what it looks like.

You can get into PC gaming without spending a ton of money, and this leaves you with plenty of cash to spend on high quality peripherals, a comfortable chair, and a nice desk if necessary.

Would this be a better deal than this which I just bought ?

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https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=gaming+desktop&qid=1567019355&s=gateway&sr=8-4

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=ryzen+5+2700+pc&qid=1569110204&sr=8-1

Get this and upgrade storage to SSD.

This was my response before

You clearly underestimate how long 2 hours really last. If you're playing a game, getting really pissed off and not enjoying your time after 1 hour, it would be reasonable to not want to own the game anymore. You mentioned PC games running worse than consoles. Even if that were true, you could just refund the game until the company optimizes it much better (which is what people did when Arkham Knight came out; and W.B Games actually listened to them)

I'm sorry I didn't cite my sources last time. So I'll do it this time https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/10/game-stop-shares-fall-after-second-quarter-profit-and-revenue-miss.html https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/09/10/gamestop-store-closings-2019-retailer-closing-up-200-stores/2279343001/ https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/06/08/how-much-did-gamestops-sales-fall.aspx

"Where are these companies that make PCs that will stomp console? Never mind it’s in fantasy land" I dunno man. NZXT BLD and OriginPC seem pretty real. Also a prebuilt PC with an RX 580 and a Ryzen 7 2700 CPU only costs about $650 https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=gaming+PC&qid=1568421808&s=gateway&sr=8-6

Oh I can't ever accept that I'm wrong? I'm sorry, I guess the word objective just completely disappeared from the english dictionary. I guess Better Framerats, Graphics, Upgrade-able hardware, free online, convenience, options, freedoms don't exist to you. Also, don't compare me to liberals. The liberals you're thinking of are completely closed minded.

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  The fact that you have to use ad hominem attacks in your rebuttle clearly shows how emotionally attached you are to your stance on this subject.
  
  
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  I know you're probably not the biggest fan of me, but if you ever change your mind about PC gaming, then here's an alternative to building your PC or buying a $600 prebuilt. Get a PC like the Dell Optiplex 7010 which actually has no proprietary parts as far as I'm concerned https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Minitower-Desktop/dp/B01K0GNUOG/ref=sxin_3_sxwds-bovbs?keywords=dell+optiplex+7010&pd_rd_i=B01K0GNUOG&pd_rd_r=05da0e7d-1fb9-45c2-ac21-d8943f19ee8d&pd_rd_w=zQkzL&pd_rd_wg=Mou8g&pf_rd_p=b866bc3b-cfe5-45c1-897c-a8525a3335d9&pf_rd_r=5DFECSZRTKW3165Y70EN&qid=1568423180&s=gateway
  
  Then what you can do is replace the PSU inside of it with a 3rd party PSU from EVGA, Corsair or Seasonic. Make sure that it's either 80+ or 80+ bronze certified at the very least. After that, you can add pretty much any GPU (the RX 570 4gb is definitely a recommendation) and there you go. You can basically play any game at 1080p60 medium-high settings. An rx 570 is only about $130-150 and a psu like the one I mentioned is about $35-50.
  
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  So what? Did I win the argument? Were my points stupid? Is there nothing more to respond to?

Well, just a heads up, you're going to have a hard time getting anywhere near that when you can get a prebuilt Ryzen 7 2700 + RX 580 with warranty for $580. Your build is worth more like $650 shipped, and that's assuming the Ryzen 5 you mention is a 3600 and not like a 1600 or something.

what do you think about this?

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/product-reviews/B01NBL8BER/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=avp_only_reviews&sortBy=recent

Seems to have alot of the same components as your first link no?

I just finished defragging. Wont know if it helps till i play agina later tonight or tomorrow. I couldn't find the exact page from the sellers website but i did find the amazon page to it, it has a 7200 rpm disk drive. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you can snag the Amazon deal with the $100 gift card this will put it under a grand.

Can't speak for quality or performance, but I bought this one yesterday from Amazon when I ordered my Oculus. As a plus, it is on sale today for $639.99

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBL8BER/ref=s9_acss_bw_cg_PCACDTCE_2e1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=unified-hybrid-3&pf_rd_r=HPA85RMVR9MEEH7H4D8W&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=533d7f1e-16af-4797-823f-36bec33a2731&pf_rd_i=565098

Thank you! I'm going to get this one I think

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01NBL8BER/ref=olpOffersSuppressed?ie=UTF8&overridePriceSuppression=1

Only found 1 decent build on Amazon/newegg.

[Amazon link] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBL8BER/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496187229&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=511WRjswCuL&ref=plSrch)

As the other user suggested, you could get one of companies to build a pc for you with you selecting the parts. This would be the best way.

Since I don't live in US, I am not sure what store do it

Thats my pc here

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01NBL8BER/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Is there such a cable on the market ?

Thanks bud uv been a huge help

Wanting to upgrade my PC that I purchased pre-built. Here is a link to the computer a bought. Planning on upgrading the RAM, adding another HDD or SSD, and maybe the fans. Any recommendations?

You should also check out the prebuilt route cause the prices of gpus and ram are crazy these days. Something like this is pretty good for the price: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wnFHAbMB36QNM, it performs better than the build above and you can add in a SSD too if you want.

It's a fantastic deal in terms of parts value (the cpu alone is ~$350 CAD new). Especially considering it probably comes with a warranty and tech support. However as the other poster said it doesn't have a dedicated graphics card so you're not going to get much gaming out of it. Frankly that CPU is way more than anyone really needs even for gaming and that's where most of the cost is coming from. I think HP really dropped the ball on this one. I can't really see who their target customer is. Someone who needs a super fast CPU but is okay with being gimped by a slow hard drive? They would've been better off ditching that overpowered CPU for dedicated graphics or an SSD and I think you'd be better off doing the same.

This dell here is 100 cad more and has nearly identical specs with the exception of trading an overpowered CPU for a decent graphics card:

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

If you were considering a pre-built this has good specs for the price
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1HNC035CZ2MR5&th=1

Ok so I looked around a little bit an if you can throw in a max of $100 in, you can get decent performance in most modern games if you adjust the settings. I tried to not go too much over the prices you gave me so I stuck with $700 being the max with more current parts in case you want to upgrade down the road.

I would not recommend any card under 2GB VRAM since PUBG and other modern games eat it up, so I looked at 4GB versions. I also looked for CPUs that are quad-core and can push around 3.5GHz, and tried to find a min of 2400mhz 8GB RAM. Unfortunately gaming desktops under $700 do not come with an SSD so these have a HDD of 7200rpm, which is not too bad but its still slow.

Amazon 1

Amazon 2

Newegg

Out of these 3, I would recommend the SkyTech.

Edit: Also check out HP and if you can stretch $720, cyberpower

Same price on Amazon apparently:

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A933BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A957BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY?th=1

That computer is a much better bargain at very nearly the same price.

Also looking at this but i’m not sure about upgradabllity

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071ZZF7FY/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1518798813&sr=8-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=dell+inspiron+gaming&dpPl=1&dpID=41PlVF-rpiL&ref=plSrch

I have a ryzen 5 1600, and need a new pc for my triple A games in the 700-750 range. Will this CPU be supporting by this pc? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071ZZF7FY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 (I wanted to purchase it this week before holidays so I was using Amazon)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071ZZF7FY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2YLYLTN75J8LR&th=1
it is this one right?
and is the keyboard and mouse included too?

I just switched from mac to pc so I havent really been playing a lot of hardcore games yet but I bought this computer. It was a suggestion from the discord chat. They said that all together to buy the parts separately would cost more, and you can always switch out the parts you don't like.

Hi! So I've been a pc gamer for a while (like 7 years...) but I have always owned a laptop (awful for gaming, I am super used to 30fps) and its been a huge frustration for me. But due to being broke I never upgraded and instead was ever-grateful when friends would let me game on their pcs. This year I have finally gotten to the point I am tired of trying to make my laptop work, but I have noticed that GPU prices are way higher (ty crypto-mining) and I don't know if I should just buy a prebuilt PC instead. I want to ideally be able to play overwatch, doom, pubg, and possibly stream them if desired (but definitely stream lol and other lower intensity games).

So far I let my friend make my build (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bvzv6s) but I feel like these Amazon builds would be cheaper in relation to what I am getting in exchange;
https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Ultra-Gaming-Desktop-AM900Z/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518721735&sr=1-4&keywords=ibuypower+gaming+desktop
https://www.amazon.com/880-Performance-Desktop-i7-8700K-Windows/dp/B0792XZP57/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518721615&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=hp+omen+desktop&psc=1

Which one should I stick to? Is there a way to improve my friend's build or lower the price? What would be the best option for doing what I am trying to accomplish?

(sorry if this isn't where I am supposed to be posting this question...)

Care to share any links? I was looking at prebuilts as well, specifically this one, however the lack of information on all the parts/specs was steering me away.

Also, were you taking into account that the prices in my post are in CAD and also inclusive of tax?

Sadly I don't live near any microcenters and it's pick up only but what's your opinion on this one right here it's doesn't come w a monitor. iBUYPOWER Ultra Gaming PC Desktop AM900Z - Intel i7-7700K 4.2GHz, Geforce GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, 240GB SSD, WIFI USB Adapter, Light Up Case, Win 10 Home, VR Ready, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-0-fAbXGHH7GX

iBUYPOWER Ultra Gaming PC Desktop AM900Z - Intel i7-7700K 4.2GHz, Geforce GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, 240GB SSD, WIFI USB Adapter, Light Up Case, Win 10 Home, VR Ready, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_yLfEAbXYSSVDC

Here's one with a 7700k, keyboard and mouse for $150 cheaper than your original and better specs.

I actually found a 1070 version of this computer on Amazon for roughly $400 bucks cheaper, and was considering just buying that instead.

Any particular reason I should go with a 1070 over the 1080?

Edit: As I understand it, the 1080 is only roughly 20-25 percent better than the 1080, so maybe I should just go with that and save myself the money.

While performing pretty much the same...(the 3gb and 6gb)

For that price range he could also choose these, which are much better deals.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y8XJJ7L/ref=psdc_13896597011_t5_B075TMK25G

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B075TMK25G

The i7 one would also need a better cooler, but it's also a much better system for the money.

Hey! thank you for responding. I have one more question. Is this pc worth it? Is it better then the first one I linked? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073RKHY2H?th=1&psc=1

Tried multiple headsets which work on my phone. The exact PC is this one: iBUYPOWER Gaming PC Computer Desktop AM900Z-Intel i7-7700K 4.2GHz, Geforce GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR4 Ram, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, 240GB SSD, WIFI USB Adapter, Light up Case, Win 10 Home, VR Ready https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mu7PDb9KNCHWS

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_bPMVzbQEEBCV1


What about this one

Price check on https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073RKHY2H/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518559979&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A13580790011%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A3012497011%2Cp_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446812011&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Gaming+pc

For the price, is it a decent buy for the hardware?

My friend showed me his https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_hgIHAbJ4GKSZ1 does it look good

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL?pd_rd_wg=TPr3f&pd_rd_r=77787a33-ce45-4e56-a7c6-c49eac91b66a&pd_rd_w=zHrT5&ref_=pd_gw_simh&pf_rd_r=AX801WEXB878XV2VK1HN&pf_rd_p=b841581f-e864-5164-afa6-4c18a8348879

This one is 749 dollars. But if you want a custom PC, many stores will build the PC for like 40 bucks.

I know Pre-Built is frowned upon here but this is the exact if not less than the cyberpowerpc for 750$


https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518985015&sr=1-3&keywords=cyberpowerpc

Sure here are a couple. The first comes with the ryzen 1400 which has more threads than the 1200, making slightly better for games like battlefield 1 which love CPUs that can prioritize better the information (for example having more cores). Of course it won't give you any drastic improvement, just less dips on occasion probably.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hard-drive-black-red/5848610.p?skuId=5848610

Here is another with a last gen quad core i5, dollar for dollar I'd probably go for the ryzen 1400 over this as this CPU doesn't have hyperthreading but again for what you want it for it won't make much of a difference. Both CPUs are more than enough for 1080p medium to ultra settings if aiming for 60FPS.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-vr-desktop-intel-core-i5-7400-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hard-drive-black-blue/5712949.p?skuId=5712949

Here is another PC sold by Amazon. Saves you $50 but gives you basically identical performance. It uses the RX 580 which trades blows with the 1060 3GB and 1060 6GB so it's a very good card, it just runs a bit warmer and uses more power.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-YEIAbP1XAWWK


I'd like to close off by saying that going with a ryzen also gives you the option to replace the CPU later with one of amds future CPUs released before 2020 as the boards will be cross compatible. Also, be wary of prebuilts for the internal componets. While they do offer cheaper alternatives at the moment, you run the risk of getting really generic RAM chips and motherboards. For example, you might buy the ryzen prebuilt but see after you get it that it comes with a really bottom of the list b320 motherboard meaning you can't overclock the the CPU. Don't know if that's the case for the ones I linked, you should call cyberpower to see.

An upside to building your own was the fact that you could get much better components and often for cheaper than it would cost to buy a prebuilt but today it's mostly just the better components due to the insane price increase of GPUs and RAM. Good luck!

I just bought a Ryzen 1400(cooler master CPU cooler), RX580 (MSI Armor), 8Gb of XPG ram prebuilt CyberPower PC from BestBuy for $770 ( I believe there is one on Amazon as well) and it is performing better than my Reyzen 1300, 1050Ti build which would cost more if I was to try to build it at today's prices. You should check these out(non-affiliated): https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-black/5833100.p?skuId=5833100

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518976457&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming+pc

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL

I have never had a pc but want to get one. Which one of these should I get or if u have a good one that isn’t too expensive post it here. (budget around $800)

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/INTEL-i3-SFF-Configurator

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_qIZFAbCVZFPYT

What do you think of this Cyberpower PC? As far as I can see, it appears to be the same graphics card, same amount of RAM and Hard Drive, the big difference being Intel over AMD processor. The big difference is, including the warranty, getting that one from Amazon saves me nearly $200 for what looks like basically the same level of machine.

> What is the upgradeability like for this PC? Will I be able to upgrade easily if needed in the future?

Prebuilts are hard to upgrade because the motherboard is tied to the windows installation. Also the mobo probably doesn't support overclocking, and of course the CPU doesn't, so you'll be replacing half the computer (and buying another windows 10 key) just to do anything with the CPU. I'd imagine the power supply is pretty potato, the fans are probably cheap loud things, and the 7200rpm hard drive is bleh in 2018.

If you're gonna get a prebuilt at least go with cyberpower https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B077S27YLP since they use off the shelf parts that are pretty decent. You'll still have the motherboard and cpu and windows 10 key to have to repurchase again if you ever want to buy a cpu that supports overclocking. But these days prices are hella high on computer parts so i wouldn't blame you with going this route. Also would recommend buying a 120gb SSD and installing windows on that, leave the 1TB HDD for your games.

go with the cyberpower model with the rx580, i think you have to use the dvi port for 144hz but i'm not an expert in this stuff so get a second opinion. But yeah that monitor will work fine.

if you want to build, there's a ryzen setup in your price range. check the wiki.

Thanks for the opinion so would this be good to go for?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0747W15QL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Or this one
https://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-CLX-SET-Gaming-PC/dp/B07217L519/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511225376&sr=1-13&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_36%3A65000-75000

I was thinking about buying this. Is it a bad deal? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i5dgAbH90SEE5

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=acd622f0d12211e79063560a8f91e5750INT&ie=UTF8
Not sure if I'll get down voted for linking a prebuilt but this is a good deal. You can add a ssd and 8 gb more ram if you want and you'd have a great machine. Not sure how long this sale lasts

Is this PC better than the one that was for sale on Amazon yesterday or about the same? The one on Amazon was asking for $580 pre-tax.

Been looking to upgrade my computer and decided to just get a whole new everything. Is this a good pc for the price?
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1511719736&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming+pc

Ok this guy is better and cheaper than anything you have linked to me. Honestly I can't imagine they can really make a good profit off of this. But I mean it when I say my offer still stands recording a video for you.

You should check [this] (https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1512012847&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+desktop) one out. Its a bit cheaper, has basically the same specs, same CPU but it has a better GPU.

theres two main compeitors

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL

https://www.amazon.com/HP-750-410-Desktop-i5-6400-Drive/dp/B01LZWMNZM/ref=pd_sbs_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01L91XDVQ&pd_rd_r=99EES6XF3JJ14RDCT19M&pd_rd_w=Ko7uw&pd_rd_wg=fbMbV&refRID=99EES6XF3JJ14RDCT19M&th=1

the first has a i 5 6400 and an rx480 while the later has an i5 7400 and a rx 580 , after looking at benchmarks the i5 7400 and rx 580 are both around 6-10% better

the pc with the i5 7400 and rx 580 is 50$ more expensive
im leaning to the cheaper pc but i might change my opionion any suggestions would be good

Imho you should think about building your own pc sine prebuilts suck, but if you really want to buy one I think this one has better value. RX 580, i5 7500, 8 GB of RAM and apparently a decent case. Keep in mind that it has a no name PSU so that's a huge con if you ask me, but otherwise it's fine. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1509849103&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming%2Bpc&th=1&psc=1

This does not include a monitor but it's pretty good, I'm not sure if you mean monitor and pic for 900 or just of but I'm sure this could run most games at 60~ fps.
There is a lack of an ssd though.

I'm not seeing it. What components?

I found this really good prebuilt (rx580) for 700 at the top of amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_2sH.zbP858M1R

prebuilt

custom build

some streaming, though i thought of getting this:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511191387&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+desktop

the most graphically demanding will probably be WW2. And next year im planning to build another pc, (for if a friend comes over, you know). Just about anything would work, because right now im gaming off a AMD A8 APU.

for 350 the BB one is very okayy but for 350 bucks you arent going to find any prebuilt thats better.

If 350 is your upper limit i'd say build it yourself, however if you can afford a bit more this guy is a much better deal, but my honest opinion is to wait for cyber monday

Would this be better? https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Xtreme-Desktop-Gaming/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1509670734&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Already did, so after I save up again I plan to pick the game up.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/?coliid=I2V4IIBK196RZ9&colid=6AM4MBR5KRVN&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

I would try to find something with an I5 or Ryzen 5 and a GTX 1050 or RX 580. That should future proof you for a while so you can upgrade your GPU down the road and not have to worry about anything else. Rocket league isn't particular demanding.

This seems like a good deal although I have never heard of the company: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102050

This seems like a good deal as well, more reputable brand: https://smile.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=lp_8588813011_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1523319153&sr=1-1

This is the one my friend got. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL

Here's a good one. Fantastic price, with slightly stronger graphics but less powerful processor

I'm removing the other link because the first option is just better imo.

Uh, 1080p HIGH settings will require a 1060 or rx 570 or higher.

Hmm...

BOOM, 1060 is TWICE as powerful as the RX 560 or GTX 1050:
ALSO 6-CORE CPU FTW~

OR buying a prebuilt isn't too bad. Weaker CPU but stronger GPU:

https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor | $239.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard | MSI - B350M PRO-VH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $89.99 @ PC-Canada
Memory | ADATA - XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory | $94.99 @ PC-Canada
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.00 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Video Card | Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Mini ITX OC Video Card | $309.99 @ Memory Express
Case | DIYPC - Zondda-O ATX Mid Tower Case | $39.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply | SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $59.99 @ Newegg Canada
Operating System | Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $114.95 @ Vuugo
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $998.89
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-10 03:02 EST-0500 |

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL

Is this a good pc/good deal or would I be wasting my money on this? I want to play the latest games on high/ultra @ 1080p 30-60fps. Doesnt have to go past 60 but can't drop below 30.

If you don’t mind looking, is this a better pc for the price https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL

Getting enough RAM and a decent GPU right now with the current market is basically impossible. Builds below $1000 will need corners to be cut if you are custom building.

There’s 2 factors why I think you could get a prebuilt for now.

1. You’re knew to PC’s and it might be difficult to assemble it without misplacing, breaking, or doing something in general wrong.
   
   
2. You can get better bang for your buck right now.
   
   Here’s the best I could find, includes an I7, RX 580, and 8GB’s of RAM coming at $780
   
   It also has an included keyboard and mouse, but no monitor.
   
   Id recommend getting a basic 1080p 60hz monitor for now Like this until later.

If you can put foward a bit more money, you could go for this.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-E.TAbD78XGGJ

Those who are more knowledgeable than I, would I be correct in telling a friend that this pc https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_bxoUAb9NK0KVX should be able to run games like r6s, fortnite, and pubg, at 75fps high settings on this monitor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JJ8V4S/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_RyoUAbNJDPB37. I’m also advising him that another 8gb of ram would probably be helpful.

As you probably know, building your own PC isn't as cheap nowadays possibly more expensive than buying a prebuilt one. That being said the best bang for your buck prebuilt desktop is this:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=lp_8588813011_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1521071468&sr=1-4

Yea, sadly. For example, this pc is about the equivalent of this, for $200 less.

Add on the necessary monitor, and it's only $195 more, amounting to around $985.

Given you want to upgrade it a bit, maybe some more ram, ssd and a 8GB RX 580. You get [this] (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ynrsJ8) list of upgrades.

Add that to the original price, costs around $1700. But you can sell the RX 580 4GB or trade it on r/hardwareswap for at least $300, bringing it down on $1400.

But it's a hassle, and no guarantee anyone would buy the 4GB one. But if you were fine with the 4GB one, the round total would come to $1300.

So if you want value, go for pre-built. If you want flexibility, freedom of choice(this has a non-overclockable CPU with only 4cores and 4 threads) and the satisfaction as well as knowledge that you've chose the best parts you could for your budget and to your preference, you should build it on your own.

Have you seen this one? It would run smite at max settings with 150fps.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Black - VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_WgtQAbCJF1GW3
You also can add a monitor or vr with it too

This case looks similar to:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL
I've seen this computer and the the side panel was acrylic, not sure about the Lite 3.1.
Those are two different cases though. This one is mATX and from the link it's a Mid-ATX.
Looks good but feels cheap (light). If you're looking for a mATX case with many see through panels then this is a good deal.

If you can afford to spend a littttle bit more, i would definitely go with this one : https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1521930079&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=gaming+desktop&psc=1

As it has an Intel newer gen processor, and a better GPU. This would have no trouble running fortnite at near max settings, easily maintaining 60 FPS.

i guess it depends on where u get your parts.

but this pc has a rx 580 4gb and is 780$

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=asc_df_B0747W15QL1521025200000?tag=INSERT_TAG_HERE&creative=395261&creativeASIN=B0747W15QL&linkCode=asn


this rx 580 4gb is 450$ alone

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZZ93FQ/ref=asc_df_B06XZZ93FQ1521630000000?tag=INSERT_TAG_HERE&creative=395261&creativeASIN=B06XZZ93FQ&linkCode=asn


so if u are truly getting similar prices then do that. just dont forget to get a bronze cert PSU n better MB

edit: well shortened links r not welcome so i put the original links

The significant savings is usually predicated on someone already having a mouse, keyboard, and copy of windows to use.

With current RAM prices and the crypto fueled run on graphics cards, the savings aren’t even all that great nowadays.

I helped buy one of my nephews this prebuilt for Christmas and he has been happy with it.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Black - VR Ready https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4qTMAbX5P25CW

I would get something like this, and add another 8 gigs of RAM in and an SSD. RX 580 is similar to a GTX 1060, and the i5-7400 should do great in most if not all games, the exclusions being something like AC Origins, The Division, other CPU heavy games.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $83.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $49.99 @ Amazon
Other | CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme GXIVR8020A4 Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz, AMD RX 580 4GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi, Win 10 Home), Black - VR Ready | $779.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $913.97
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-06 16:17 EST-0500 |

Thanks but I found another pc. I think it's good but can someone tell me if there are any problems.
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1505926323&sr=1-1&keywords=cyberpowerpc

This is what I have https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A4-Desktop-i5-7400-7200RPM/dp/B0747W15QL/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1525221676&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&dpPl=1&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&ref=plSrch

More reasonable deal for $949. Has RX 580 4GB instead

PS - Last month this was on sale for $749

I'll add the links to the options I'm looking at. Intel Prebuilt
Ryzen Prebuilt

Sure! I'm trying to get this tower to work.

With this monitor

FX CPUs are old and bad, 1050 is not a great GPU for gaming. The best prebuilt I've seen lately is this, it costs a little more than the one you linked but it's drastically better.

Could someone recommend me a monitor. The PC i've got is:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0747W15QL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Budget is $200-$400. Looking for a 24 or 27 inch monitor to play WoW and not much else. The current Samsung monitor I have is about 10 years old. VESA mount is not required.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0747W15QL/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 will this give me 144hz

Thanks for the responses. I think we’re close to seeing which direction makes sense. I know there are cons to buying prebuilt however want to verify. Below is a prebuilt he has his eye on, are the custom builds a better option?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0747W15QL/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521550774&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0747W15QL/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521169283&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc+gamer+ultra+desktop&dpPl=1&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&ref=plSrch

Here's one that's a couple of bucks less, but far superior than the Dell. Great PC. Highly recommend this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0747W15QL/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520562725&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51n3tUIpoSL&ref=plSrch

Not a fan of the small case personally, but with it being on Amazon prompted me to look around and i came across this. Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0747W15QL/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile pre built, comes with keyboard and mouse. Actually comparing this to a custom build myself atm.

This is my pre built pc everything In this link is my pc rn except I added 8 more ram CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I think something like This will be a much better option .

So I'm still talking to him to look into the prospect of having a friend of his build the PC if it comes to that. Thankfully, that means those builds above you linked can still be used, but it'd also need to have windows 10 installed, presumably without activating the product key, and I honestly don't know how to install windows without a CD.

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As for the pre-build computers, I did some digging online and found these two options from Amazon:

1. https://www.amazon.ca/HP-Quad-Core-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07CGBYBXM/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1550385041&sr=1-4&keywords=desktop+computer+i7&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A7322347011
   
   
2. https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A5-Desktop-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1550385041&sr=1-11&keywords=desktop%2Bcomputer%2Bi7&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A7322347011&th=1
   
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   Although I'm sure there are things I'm missing in regards to those two. The first one looks good, minus seemingly not having a graphics card, but is it missing something important? The second one is obviously pretty damn expensive, but it looks like it has the features you mentioned for the CPU and video card. Thoughts?
   
   
   If those two look functional that'd mean 4 options on the table (Outside of him going to a nearby computer store and seeing what they have in stock of course). It's difficult trying to narrow it down, trying to get it functional without breaking the bank, so to speak. The Amazon ones don't come with monitors obviously, but other than that...? Hmm. I'm trying to weigh the risk/reward of having individual parts mailed in but risking his friend perhaps not building the PC right. Any broken part is just lost money assuming they don't have some sort of return policy.
   

Hey guys, not sure if this is the correct subreddit or place to post.

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I am looking to buy a new PC as I am playing on an old laptop, after looking around these 2 are my final choices I think, need help deciding which to pick, or if anyone has any other suggestions that would be fine too. thanks.

Pc1: https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A5-Desktop-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=gaming&pf_rd_i=1233055011&pf_rd_m=A1IM4EOPHS76S7&pf_rd_p=2e03ed4e-8493-4c47-8dad-df4c6898f702&pf_rd_r=N1QNQQ4ZGG8A4YEVMGKH&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-leftnav&pf_rd_t=101&qid=1549740686&refinements=p_85%3A5690392011%2Cp_72%3A11192170011&rnid=11192166011&rps=1&s=pc&sr=1-2&th=1

Pc2: https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX72048

edit: I am in canada so I'd like to avoid shipping from outside as that usually applies large shipping and customs fees.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Friendly/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1540579106&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=41ovDf0K24L&ref=plSrch

Ok, that was the cheaper option but would this one work well:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539259803&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming%2Blc&th=1&psc=1

For $800 you should get a 6-core and a better video card. Storage can be smaller since it's easy enough to add more. Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z

Try /r/suggestapc as well.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1543362906&sr=1-3&keywords=Ryzen+5+1600

Is this a good deal?

Just looking for a quick prebuilt. Looking to play stuff like Overwatch
FFXIV
Siege
Nothing to fancy, just a solid 60 fps or more at med settings and such

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_KVm.Bb9NCDV2R

I bought this pc a day ago.

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542986649&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=41ovDf0K24L&ref=plSrch get this one instead

Ok this is what I am looking at.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A5 Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi & Win 10) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_5199Bb8N2CW8F


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-vr-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hard-drive-black/6128510.p?skuId=6128510

Depends on the price range your looking for and what type of machine; high-end intense graphics, mid-range for just playing MMO's or MoBA's or low-end for mainly movies, music, email and office duties.

Mid-range you usually can find quite a bit of decent options. High-end is were you REALLY need to watch the specs for each "Sale" cause they often like to short something essential in order to offer such a good "deal". For example, they amount of memory, for High-end you really need at least 16 gigs to have a solid build but a lot of "Deals" will leave you with ONLY 8 gigs installed and thus cutting the price that way and calling it a "Deal".

Here's a High-end Deal that looks real nice: https://smile.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_2?s=black-friday&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1542973523&sr=1-2&keywords=desktop+computers

and.. Here's a Mid-range Deal that's pretty good too! - https://smile.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=black-friday&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1542973523&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop+computers



Hope this helps and happy hunting!

This is a better alternative:
CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A5 Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 2.8GHz, 8GB DDR4, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi & Win 10) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_XN86BbV3PPMX3

What about this ?https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A5-Desktop-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538765413&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&dpPl=1&dpID=41ovDf0K24L&ref=plSrch

Hey thanks for the reply.

I was looking at this pc, and while I have my fair share of pc knowledge, I was wanting a second opinion on if the pc is good for its price.

Edit: its hyperlinked to the word "this", it just doesn't look like it with this subreddit's theme.

Would this
Be better?

These are the first few I ran across that had the monthly payment option: 1, 2, 3

Should i go with this mb instead https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07F83RVTC/ref=crt_ewc_title_srh_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB
This 1060
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01JHQT1SE/ref=crt_ewc_title_huc_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB
or this 1060
https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-06G-P4-6161-KR/dp/B01IPVSGEC/ref=sr_1_1?dd=e9PzYrHZSKArJBlKMYh1DQ%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1537243050&sr=8-1&keywords=1060+6gb&refinements=p_97%3A14479221011

And this memory
https://www.amazon.ca/Ballistix-Single-PC4-21300-288-Pin-Memory/dp/B01MS79QSP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537240957&sr=8-1&keywords=Ballistix+Sport+8GB+2666

How is the build compared to this prebuilt, I really cant decide to build it or just go with that
https://www.amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8060A5-Desktop-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1537241115&sr=1-3&keywords=cyberpowerpc

does this have that??

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=pd_cart_crc_cko_sbs_2_1/133-0156426-5555355?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0757DVF4Z&pd_rd_r=dd82074f-b52e-4761-8fdf-b07484233004&pd_rd_w=gmvBD&pd_rd_wg=xkWuG&pf_rd_p=58a58848-762a-4c98-976b-5dca54aff8a0&pf_rd_r=TZ7CTJTJBKG3AE8H7SX9&psc=1&refRID=TZ7CTJTJBKG3AE8H7SX9

Ok, I think the best you could get in that range would be try and look for something with an i5 or Ryzen 5 (preferably 1600) and try and find something with at least a gtx 1060/rx580 graphics card. I wouldn’t worry too much about ram 8gb of ddr4 is fine, you can always add another 8gb later. Try and keep the monitor to a 1080p/60hz you won’t need better than that. Good luck!

Edit: something like this just as a reference (if you can find one with these kind of specs and price but a 6gb 1060 then def go for that)

I would recommend either:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1520802405&sr=8-8&keywords=GTX+1060+PC

Or that SkyTech Archangel II. I'm a fan of Ryzen in general, but if you prefer Intel this would be a good alternative.

Elite is complicated for sure. I personally also believe it should only be played with a HOTAS in VR. And it's not a game for everyone. Watch some clips in YouTube if it sounds like a game you'd be interested in. Once you start playing, it's not bad. Myself and several friends got the hang in about a day (Controls, movement, landing, etc) with only one friend to this day only ever manually having been able to land his ship a single time before giving up on the game.

Also, here's a link to the pc I own. I have yet to upgrade it and have no frame rate issues running ED in ultra VR graphics. Feel free to compare to your own build.

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8060A5 Gaming PC (Intel i5-8400 2.8GHz Processor, 8GB DDR4 DRAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, WiFi & Win 10) Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Lnj4DbNAFFP57

i would really consider this, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0757DVF4Z/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=tecdea0f-20&linkId=7be3a1734cd8d3f194d2a3f93392005a


tech deals does a better explanation on how this is a really good deal and how could you easily upgrade the ram to 16gb and/or upgrade to a 1060 6gb and sell the 1060 3gb somewhere elseusing the left over money that you were gonna buy the 1,100 prebuilt you linked above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l77oZXU7liM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0757DVF4Z/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0757DVF4Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ...

This is not even over a thousand dollars and this is what im rocking... i can get over 200 frames per second, 6 ping , game feels smooth as butter and has bluetooth support. gtx 1060 nvidia card, i5 processor

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Not horrible, but for 1700 USD you should be able to get a PC with a 1080ti and a larger SSD.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/488862/CodexXE069US_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/479097/G428_Desktop_Computer

This one is on sale for 1500
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/

Now, do I buy this for $1700 or the Cyberpower on Amazon for $1800 on backorder.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075VSBNQZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_FukgAb6B6KHSN

Prebuilt PC's aren't affected as badly I think nVidia is not gouging the OEMs like retail is doing.

My friend bought one of these after Christmas, it was only $1799 then.

https://smile.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Desktop-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/

Prebuilt's aren't necessarily a bad deal (right now), but you need to search a little (spend some time searching through /r/buildapcsales) and find one that's the best bang for your buck.

For example both of these prebuilts are big step ups GPU/RAM/SSD wise compared to the one you described and they're the same price:

#1: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-8700k-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-white-black/6092427.p?skuId=6092427
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#2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075VSBNQZ/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1OTKNJAHT2NPO&colid=36I2SBQHWEMP9&psc=1

Alright okey. For PC I would go for something like this: https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Desktop-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1529356747&sr=1-3&keywords=1080ti+8700k

The PC is very good and you will definitely have any problems with bad frames (always over 144) or lag. Don't know about the shipping to hawaii though..


For a monitor I would recommend the benq xl2411, which is a 144hz monitor. And when it comes to mouse and keyboard we all have different opinions, but I would recommend the Zowie EC2-A, and probably buy a keyboard like the logitech g pro. Hope this helped a little!

Any reason to buy a 20 series? Should I wait it out, I'd like to get my PC ASAP, within a month or two. Is getting a 20 series worth the price on them? Someone linked me to this PC, and it looks pretty solid, but I don't really know enough to know if it's a good price. https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Desktop-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1529356747&sr=1-3&keywords=1080ti+8700k

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If you absolutely MUST buy a prebuilt, some prebuilts do have value. Strictly because aftermarket parts are so expensive right now. 16GB of DDR4 is ~$165+ and a 1080Ti is ~$1,000+. SSDs are the only thing going down in price.


CyberpowerPC :
i7-8700k, 1080Ti 11GB, 16GB DDR4, 240GB SSD - $2,000.


Edit: I would still recommend you build your own PC. It’s so much more rewarding to build something personal and/or custom and then fine tune it to your liking. More so than simply plug and play.

Don’t have anything 4K now was just thinking in terms of 4K gaming in the future.

I saw this today would this be a better buy? Much higher price tag but seems like a better system overall? CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR GXiVR8080A2 w/Liquid Cooled Overclockable Intel i7-8700K 3.7GHz CPU, 16GB DDR4, NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti 11GB, 240GB SSD, 1TB HDD & Win10 64-Bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075VSBNQZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_EvHNAbXMPHHWF

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Desktop-GXiVR8080A2-Overclockable-i7-8700K/dp/B075VSBNQZ

i play pubg and Rust

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075VSBNQZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$100 more than the one you linked, but has a 1080ti instead

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075VSBNQZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511522060&sr=8-2-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=cyberpowerpc&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075VSBNQZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1519847659&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cyberpower+gaming+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=51Dj14TFKeL&ref=plSrch

Honestly his max is like 600 he’s not looking for like high end pc or anything just something that can D2 on a low setting, would something like this work? Razen PC

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2LMQMUZRXHLWP&keywords=gaming+desktop+computer+under+600&qid=1566872002&s=gateway&sprefix=gaming+desktop+computer+%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-1

I would go with GTX 1050

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP?aaxitk=OwvbEQ7clYT.Wj.Z7N.skQ

That's atleast significantly better, but still not the best and overpriced imo

Spend the extra 20 to 50 dollars for the version with Ryzen. The ryzen (am4 motherboards) are good for upgrading later. you will basically have the newest generation. i promise its worth the money.

https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Gaming-ST-ARCH-GTX1050TI-V1-ArchAngel-Computer/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&dpID=41iT7VNkcsL&dpPl=1&keywords=skytech%2Bgaming&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&qid=1517465620&ref=plSrch&ref_=mp_s_a_1_1&sr=8-1&th=1

Is the pc you picked out better than this pc that was suggested in another comment?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_K4uUBbJ4CGEY7

I didnt see ssd on it though. What is an ssd?

Very cool! Thank you so much, would I be better off building vs buying complete at the same price point. Like would the 600 dollar build you put together be better than something like this?

[Ryzen & GTX 1050 Ti Edition] SkyTech ArchAngel Gaming Computer Desktop PC Ryzen 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core, GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, 8GB DDR4 2400, 1TB HDD, 24X DVD, Wi-Fi USB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_J1f.Bb303ST2K

https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Archangel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539272920&sr=8-1&keywords=skytech+archangel

But I'd recommend reposting here a day or two before you buy for potentially better deals.

Here
https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-Archangel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP

Pretty much this pc with no upgrades will run fortnite at like 90 fps with all epic and streaming https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_S7k5Cb9TG7VNP

Thank you so much. Ummm I found the following on amazon. It normally retails higher, but is on sale. I can't tell if it is better for worse than the machine you linked. https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=skytech&qid=1555717410&s=gateway&sr=8-2

How does this one look?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077QDM2DP/ref=psdc_13896597011_t3_B01IPY2XC0?th=1

would be helpful if you gave us the link or exact model to the pc. is this it? https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B077QDM2DP

Could someone take a look at these 2 PCs and tell me which is the better deal? I've been pouring over the specs trying to decide what the differences are and I'm not able to come up with a decision.

Thank you for your time:

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-005B-000E1?Item=1VK-005B-000E1

VS

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077QDM2DP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1#customerReviews

So i found another offer, is this any better? (yes i know building myself is best option but I am working over the summer to save up for this so I wont have the time to assemble it even if I do save up enough) This one is cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077QDM2DP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Is this a good prebuilt? https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

Depends on what specs you want on the prebuilt. I used to recommend the prebuilds from manufacturers like Dell or HP but I realized that someone who purchased one wasn't able to add anything or upgrade it because they're so compact with the actual pc tower and can't fit anything else. So prebuilts through something like cyberpower pc or something that actually uses mid size towers with a ton of room are better options because you can actually reuse parts like the case. But a worthwhile prebuild might still be $700, maybe $600 if on sale. There's not many that would have the specs like the list i have above because it's a bit lower tier of a pc (still really good for gaming though). I don't know what your financial situation is or how long it would take you to save money, but you don't necessarily have to wait years before you can make a pc. Just take some time to get a little more funds to get a solid pc, you won't regret it. And waiting may help as well since prices are really hard to manage right now. Anyway, follow r/buildapcsales as they post a lot of prebuild pc's that are found to be on sale. Something like this is typically on the cheaper side of prebuilds but those are the small cases that have very little room for upgrades. Something like this would be better suited for upgrades.

I'm just basing all of this based on what you said, and it seems like you really want to build your own pc but you're willing to sacrifice that experience initially to get a prebuild until you're ready. So somewhere along the line, you're definitely looking to physically build your own which in that case, I would not look to get a prebuild first. You'd just end up using your money on something that may actually do you well for awhile, giving you little reason to actually upgrade. Then, if you actually decide to upgrade, you're left with little options as you might be replacing 3/4th's of your prebuild to get better components and at that point, it's basically like you're building an entirely new pc.

tl;dr just save up a little more. That was a lot to type but I hope I got the point out for you.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518355786&sr=8-3&keywords=hp+1060+desktop

$689 New or $549 Used on Amazon.

Here is a short clip: https://clyp.it/0an2rhg0

(sorry for the bad quality, you will have to prick up your ears to hear something)

(if it can help, this is my PC: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ )

Ok. https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

OP, be sure to check r/buildapcsales. This computer goes for around 600 very often. Was stupid cheap at Black Friday for like 350.

For monitor, check this out. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7cw323/acer-monitor-umwg6aab01

If you have left over funds after finding the computer on sale, I highly suggest getting a better mouse and keyboard.

Prebuilt, this one specifically: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_KZMCAb5DNZRV6

So far I have only done Windows update, turned on windows Defender, downloaded Malwarebytes, and changed some basic settings like dpi and screen timeout. Now I’m trying to update my GPU driver(s?) but I don’t know what to do after this.

What do you mean by an “image”? How can I do that? I don’t have any external memory sticks or anything

Good budget. HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_dCJFAbJDQNJ0Q

will this run melee netplay alright?

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1517933078&sr=8-8&keywords=HP+pavillion

My first PC was a prebuilt I bought back in January. I’m not familiar with building, but could I replace my GPU with this? I have an i5-7400 with a GTX 1060 3GB. Not sure what the wattage is on the PSU.

Here’s what I have: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

That, however, completely ignores the fact that to get comparable performance, Consoles run games at far worse qualities.

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My barebones, $500 PC Can get 1080p 60fps performance out of Alien Isolation, where Xbox one can barely eke out 30fps on the same quality.

Assassins Creed Black Flag, renders stably on my comparably priced pc with better performance at 1080p where xbox one cant even play the game at 30fps at 900p.

Same with Unity.

The fucking xbone cant even play Battlefield 4 at 900p, having to downgrade to 720p.

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Explain to me how you can justify paying $500 for a console that is essentially a shittier version of a PC that cant stream videos as well, cant browse the internet as well, cant play video games as well, and you still have to pay for the right to use your own fucking internet through some shitty paywall service like Xbox Live and Playstation Plus.

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The Pre-Built PC that i use as of right now: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

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you can easily find it on ebay for 500, and i bought it from walmart at that same price.

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Comparison chart for resolutions of games on PS4 Vs. Xbox One: https://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates

your requirements are very low these days. if you build your pc yourself you can save money because some prebuilts will be far more powerful than you need in some areas and lacking in others. you might save a lot of money on a prebuilt that has a for example decent processor and memory but end up with some not-so-good components like PSU, case, motherboard, cooling and upgradability. down the line you might regret not building your own

here's a parts list that will exceed your requirements by about 30%: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2hvmBb EDIT: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPPdfH - edit info at the bottom of this post

you can get 80fps in borderlands 2 with a gt 1030 so if you want to cut about 30-40 bucks off this list don't hesitate to go with a GT 1030 GDDR5 video card (NOT DDR4)

you could find a 366USD prebuilt acer with an i3-8100 and similar specs in it (how do they even make profit), but the case it comes with has such bad cooling that i would never recommend putting a graphics card above 65 watts in it. plus, it'll be an absolute pain to work with when removing/adding components and its PSU wattage is a little low. not sure about PSU brand quality so that's another unsure thing. lastly the motherboard BIOS will limit you if you ever want to tinker with things in the future. it also comes with no SSD: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-TC-885-ACCFLi3-Desktop-i3-8100-802-11ac/dp/B07CYF9YGF

this is probably a similar situation: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Business-Quad-Core-Bluetooth/dp/B07GVJK6FH

remember, these have no video cards

here's one with great specs though for a price lower than my parts list: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

again i'll be wondering if the cooling on this thing will throttle the gpu a bit. note this has no ssd

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EDIT: changed B360 to H370, adds more PCIe lanes and more than one system fan header. if you go with the B360 you'll need to buy a PWM fan splitter cable: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pQPzK8/silverstone-technology-all-black-sleeved-1-to-2-sleeved-pwm-fan-splitter-cable-cpf01

Desktops will have much better performance per dollar and are just as reliable or even more so in many cases, compared to laptops. As well it's much easier to upgrade a desktop down the line so it says relevant longer. Below is a link to a desktop on Amazon. For a similar performing laptop you'd be paying closer to $1200. Granted you'll still need keyboard, mouse and monitor, but that can be had for another $100. https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?keywords=gaming+computer&qid=1556672852&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A18107821011&rnid=3012494011&rps=1&s=pc&sr=1-11

Would this be better or no? https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-580-023w-i5-7400-Graphics/dp/B077S27YLP

I think this one could do the trick.

Refurb Pre-Build w/ i-5 7400 and 1060 3gb Keep in mind I am spec'ing a refurb and you could find it in the 'used and new' sellers.


I would also suggest investing in a 16gb dual channel kit of ram as well found here

This would put you right at $710, which is retail new for the build and now you have a a very comfy 16gb of ram. You could even sell the extra stick of 8gb of ram for around ~$50-$70 (hell I would probably buy it!).

This is the server I'm using. I added 8 gigs of ram (12 total), this video card, and a 3TB Hard drive.

Lenovo Thinkserver from Amazon. The first review goes into a lot of detail on how well this works as a PLEX server, so you might be interested in seeing that to help you decide.

If you are in the US, amazon has them on sale.

These little PC's are ok but for:

Client I would probably rather get one of those 120$ intel stick PC's.


Server Either a low end server like this
or a NUC or a self built HTPC

Cool. How hot does the box get? I have one of these http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001LUX-E3-1225-Processor/dp/B00FE29IWK with 32GB of ECC ram in it. Would you be interested in a trade + cash? It's basically brand new.

I saw these recommended. Not sure the differences between xenon and i3

Think server
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001MUX-E3-1225v3-Desktop/dp/B00FE2G79C

This one I chose i3 + 8gb ram for 279.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001LUX-E3-1225-Processor/dp/B00FE29IWK

Will these stream 4k?

I JUST finished a build with one of these. I needed a system to practice basic security techniques and gain experience with new tools. Running ESXi right now, and I freaking love it, and cant recommend this highly enough.

I went for the one without the HD for $330 on Amazon, and bought a RAID (1) card for two 1TB WD Blacks. I could have probably spent a bit less on this build, but everything ended up totaling a tad over $1K after I bought the RAID card and 32GB of memory. I recommend you also get it from Amazon. If you have problems with it, amazon is much more hassle-free than ebay will be, and buying a 500GB HD isn't that much extra.

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001LUX-E3-1225-Processor/dp/B00FE29IWK

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-70A4001LUX-TS140-Server/dp/B00FE29IWK/

But I haven't even unboxed it yet, so I have nothing to offer in terms of reviews or feedback.

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkServer-70A4001LUX-E3-1225-Processor/dp/B00FE29IWK

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16820148770

Edit didn't realize there wasn't a hdd

Here is the mobile version of your link

Barebone system, Passmark near 7,000 for $329.00

Lenovo ThinkServer TS140 70A4001LUX 5U Tower Server 3.2 GHz Intel Xeon E3-1225 v3 Processor, 4 GB ECC RAM
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Just needs hard drives, OS (Linux), and more RAM depending on usage.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FE29IWK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2TC87EJKQMY9O

Here is the mobile version of your link

For the desktop itself, I would recommend this HP small form factor system. It has a Core i5 and Windows 10 Pro. https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1518314407&sr=1-2&refinements=p_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289793011

As for the monitor, I would recommend this one:
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-21-5-Inch-HDMI-Monitor/dp/B015WCV70W/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B015WCV70W&pd_rd_r=AW6K1SK8Q35NDJ84E2P1&pd_rd_w=3oQls&pd_rd_wg=5ygqh&psc=1&refRID=AW6K1SK8Q35NDJ84E2P1

You looking to buy, or build one?

The latter won't be possible with 200$ unless you want a potato.

However if you're just buying a prebuilt I'd say take a look at these:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1563201077&refinements=p_36%3A1253506011&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-6

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-3010-Performance-Professional-Refurbished/dp/B07J46FQCX/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?keywords=computer&qid=1563201334&refinements=p_36%3A1253506011&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-11

Sorry I should've mentioned that already. I was hoping to use PCSX2 for my ps2 games and ppsspp for the psp games.

I've never had a computer that could begin to run Dolphin but maybe I'm aiming too high for my budget.

I was thinking about getting this refurbished pc and upgrading some parts but I don't know what I'm doing. Just read through some reviews and forums of some people who beefed that computer up to run some games but they didn't mention the sorts of things I'm aiming for.

This is the Tower/Computer: https://www.amazon.com/HP-8300-Elite-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B01CV9G1BO


Here’s the monitor: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-SB220Q-Ultra-Thin-Frame-Monitor/dp/B07CVL2D2S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=acer+sb220q&qid=1565054967&s=gateway&sprefix=acer+&sr=8-1



The monitor seemed like it was brand new when we got it, not too long after we got it though, it started showing symptoms of a black screen and a few lines across the screen, now it displays it constantly and the colors of the lines are brighter and blocking the Windows home. I’ve heard of other users having this problem and even tried to switch cables but that did nothing for them or me. I’m not sure if this monitor was damaged when it arrived because it’s an LCD monitor and it says things like keeping it away from sunlight, moisture and rain. Also says to keep it in range of a room with -4 to 140 degrees Fahrenheit which I have done. We might have to get a replacement if I can’t figure anything else out by tomorrow. This is ridiculous.

hp 8300

Specs are

HP 8300 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core, 8GB RAM, 500GB SATA, Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit, USB 3.0, Display Port (Certified Refurbished)

It’s $185. I’m not really trying to spend more than $250.

I just want something that I can use for Apple Music, do some excel spreadsheets, basic things. Not really for gaming what so ever. Just everyday tasks when I don’t want to use my lap top.(which is 5+ years old) i3 2gb ram, 500gb storage. I just use it as a notebook at work. Watch Netflix go on the internet.

Already have a dB power keyboard, and a basic laser mouse. My monitor is a asus mx279h. So I don’t need anything else.

Any thoughts or comments help thanks !

I forgot to add. I have a good friend that works for CDW and said he can get me a solid slate drive and ram for pretty cheap if needed

What do you think about this one?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B073YHNPC6

It's an HP, but already it's still better than my current laptop and cheaper too. I'll just have to install a new graphics card with a HDMI port. I haven't really been in the PC building game in over ten years, and I can't believe how cheap things with decent specs have gotten.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CV9G1BO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Geforce-Profile-Graphic-GV-N105TOC-4GL/dp/B06WWLWWJM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1G85YQY51L9EO&keywords=1050+ti+low+profile&qid=1564740333&s=electronics&sprefix=1050+ti+low%2Celectronics%2C269&sr=1-1

> a HP 8300 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop Computer,

The one I bought is a bit cheaper now and also comes with windows 10 and a mouse and keyboard, though cheap ones. It arrived and looked brand new and a 90day warranty

https://www.amazon.com/HP-8300-Elite-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=sr_1_3?crid=13G2GDBLU06E5&keywords=hp+8300+elite+small+form+factor+desktop+computer+intel+core+i5-3470&qid=1566331065&s=gateway&sprefix=a+HP+8300+Elite+Small+Form+Factor+Desktop+Computer%2C+%2Caps%2C203&sr=8-3

Why are you looking at a 7100 system?...

HP 8300 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core, 8GB RAM, 500GB SATA, Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit, USB 3.0, Display Port (Certified Refurbished) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KmG1Ab8D7ZK0M

Quick look shows the i5 being better or on part for a total system cost of about $200. Think you just weren't looking for the right thing.

Also feeds into your DDR3 argument, by the time you buy so much old hardware you might as well get a full refurbished system and save some more money getting it together.

Here. In HD and you will never lose the game or the console. Played it with one of the best controllers on the market, too. The console is cheaper then modern consoles, too!

Check this one too

https://www.amazon.com/HP-8300-Elite-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B01CV9G1BO

This one has an SSD

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Flagship-Pro-Bit-Multi-Language-English/dp/B07L7P3XYW

Just search PC on Amazon

Here's one of the first results I find suitable for surfing and word https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1535999071&sr=8-3&keywords=pc

I am glad you found something!

The only thing I could think of was something like this: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1549409318&sr=1-7&linkCode=ll1&tag=retroscienc06-20&linkId=c19185d6d6c6a3fc7fac50ff7efc4916&language=en_US

There are actually only 16 left too lol

I'm planning on getting a new PC for my parents and have parts picked out, but saw some comments from people saying that it's good to just buy prefab instead and slap my own SSD into it in that situation. Is this a viable option? I'm especially eyeing this one: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/

They don't really do anything intensive on the computer, just internet browsing, file storage, text editing, etc. Going with that one will save about $100 on what I was planning on building, but I haven't had a prefab pc for I'm not sure how many years. I'm a little nervous to grab something like that compared to something I built myself. What would you guys recommend?

Certified Refurbished HP

should have put this in the post, but this is the pic: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1538786882&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=desktop+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=31HEn5xo41L&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/HP-8300-Elite-Quad-Core-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO#productDetails

Best I can do. It's not been ordered yet I am just trying to plan for it.

I don't know what followliker does, but if it's a program, you might have trouble running it on a NAS but I might be wrong.
If you're ok with a refurbished PC, an i5 desktop with windows 10 license can be had for ~$220 on amazon. It should be plenty powerful enough to run Plex, serve files, run backups, Xbox media center, some light gaming, social media automation software, etc.
Couple it with a wireless touchpad/keyboard + a DisplayPort to HDMI cable, the PC can be hooked up directly to your PC and serve as a home-media PC, so plex would only be used for streaming to your mac or portable devices.
Sharing a folder on the PC and accessing it with mac over home network is trivial. PC only has about 500GB though, and external USB HD would be required to expand capacity. (The refurb PC is a small form factor, and probably won't have extra drive bays for storage) And it uses more power than a NAS. 24/7 use might also be an issue, but for that, NAS or server would be required.
I have an i7 workstation tower I run like that - it's not constantly used, but it's almost always on. Been running fine for years - I would just make sure it's not inside a cabinet for ventilation. The whole set up can be had for less than ~$300 (without the USB HDs)
A good backup system always includes off-site (ie cloud backup) anyway. I would suggest looking into Amazon Cloud Drive for that.

Would something like this work?
https://www.amazon.com/HP-8300-Elite-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=cheap+computer&qid=1571832376&sr=8-2

It ain't a laptop but if you're lookin to running serum (along with basically all of your other music production endeavors) with zero issues and really low latency I'd recommend this

https://www.amazon.com/HP-8300-Elite-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=desktop&qid=1572927289&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/HP-8300-Elite-Computer-Quad-Core/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=prebuilt+pc+under+200&qid=1574083088&sprefix=prebuilt+pc+under+2&sr=8-2

I'm not sure. My PC is a hand-me-down from my dad. Here's a pic:

http://i.imgur.com/EbfYrYr.jpg

You can zoom in a check it out. I don't really understand what anything in there means. I just assume that because it says total ouput 320w that should be it.

Curiously, I now decided to google where it says model. It brings me up these 3:

https://www.amazon.com/DPS-320NB-1A-ELITE-12VDC-POWER-SUPPLY/dp/B01BK2RXJ2

https://www.amazon.com/Eathtek-CFH-0320EWWA-611483-001-611484-001-Compatible/dp/B00ZQWOUEO

https://www.amazon.com/HP-CFH-0320EWWA-DPS-320NB-611483-001-611484-001/dp/B00CQAUN90

I don't know how similar these 3 are, but the 1st and last one says something about the elite 8200. I searched this on amazon (link I used if you want to check it out) and what would you know, that's exactly my PC! Well, not quite exactly... the specs don't really match up. PSU 1 also said something about 8300 so I checked it out and damn, that's literally it.

Link to my PC

I don't know if it's exactly it, but most things match up. I have the i5 3470 @ 3.2GHz, 8GB of RAM, and it came with Windows 7 Pro (I upgraded to 10 pro if it's relevant).

If you check out the specs below, it says Power Supply: 240W Max. I don't know if this the "free" remaining energy I could put to use on a bigger GPU? Maybe the PSU is different? Like I said, the actual PSU is the one on the first pic.

Additional things that could mess up how much energy my system uses:

1. I unplugged the optical drive (the things that reads CDs)
   
   
2. I unplugged the hard drives (it seemed that there were two connected functioning as one, I don't really understand it. I think it's called an "array").
   
   
3. I use an SSD. Adata 480GB.
   
   You think I could just remove my GT 630 and put in something else? How far could I go? 750ti? 1050? 1060?

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=computer+under+500&qid=1555858775&s=gateway&sr=8-2

I do not have this one yet, but I am going to get it soon. The only part that I don't really know about is the graphics card, Intel HD Graphics 2500, and I couldn't find anything that could explain it to me in a way that I understand. The other parts of it should be able to run things, but considering the price there most likely is a weakness (graphics card?, refurbished).

i just want to ask, will the HP Elite 8300 (Small Form) work?

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Refurbished/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526713607&sr=1-7&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_36%3A1253506011

Desktop: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=twister_B07D2F6TYH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Laptop: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-SP315-51-Laptop-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07BXK58H7/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526353266&sr=1-7&keywords=Laptop+1080p+ips&refinements=p_36%3A-50000

Take a look at this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CV9G1BO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9g66Ab6BXHKBW
That CPU is 50% faster than the 4130 and it's a certified refurbished, rather than second hand.

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Will putting this SSD and GPU into that computer be a problem? Is it inefficient?

Looking to put together a very basic, budget desktop. First question, is this RX 560 being sold on Amazon the version with 896 Steam Processors, or 1024 Stream Processors? I can't find any information on the store page. Also, would I be able to easily put it into this desktop? Thank you!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CV9G1BO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Add in 32Gb of RAM, will be cheap, quiet, and sufficiently powerful

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CV9G1BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1503692217&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pc+i5&dpPl=1&dpID=411XbJKUVfL&ref=plSrch

I5 3470
500gb hard drive
8gb ram

I would get one of them slim gtx 1050s otherwise i think it wouldnt fit