Best towing products & winches according to redditors
We found 686 Reddit comments discussing the best towing products & winches. We ranked the 397 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 686 Reddit comments discussing the best towing products & winches. We ranked the 397 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
^(EDITS 11/18/2019:)
_____________________________________
Tow straps and chains as barriers?
If protesters wanted to be really effective against Unimogs and other vehicles, I believe the best thing to do would be to use a tow strap across the road, attached to two solid objects. A 3"x30" strap would be the minimum choice. You could easily fit one in a backpack and deploy it quickly. Even with a steel plate bumper, the Unimog would suffer damage trying to break through it:
This is a good example of what I mean. The only difference here is that the strap is sandwiched in a metal tube, but the strap itself is the part that absorbs the kinetic energy of the vehicle. By attaching it to other heavy objects on the side of the road, anything that attempts to ram is effectively stopped or destroyed.
If you REALLY, absolutely, positively wanted to stop people from dismantling your barrier by hand; use two lengths of minimum 3/8" Grade 70 chain with slip hooks and tension them together with a come-along before linking the ends with a bow shackle or the slip hooks, if that works. Not as strong as a tow strap, but you would absolutely be maimed, likely killed, by cutting one under tension and standing nearby. The only way to remove it would be to untension it with the come-along, which would take a long time.
Tow straps or chains to entrap or destroy police vehicles?
Consider hooking up a 2"x20' tow strap while these vehicles were stopped or moving slowly past a roadside tree. These straps usually have an ultimate break strength of 17,000 lbs, so there's no way they're getting away if caught at a standstill and the strap is attached to something springy, like a tree.
Some of these riot vehicles still have their stock recovery points, but attaching a strap to the cage armor they use on their water cannon/Unimog trucks would do a helluva' lot of damage if they were to drive away whilst the strap was tired to something solid - a tree, building, barrier - on the other end.
It's like how they stop the AT-AT's in Star Wars... but with offroad recovery straps!
The HK Police's UNIMOGhas some weak points as well. A tow strap could be attached to anything circled in yellow, and a tree, or some other heavy object on the side of the road. If the snorkel circled in red could somehow be blocked, the engine would receive no oxygen and stall. Due to the purpose of a snorkel (water fording) it makes sense that this is the only air intake for the engine.
Expanding foam to disable vehicles?
HK Police's tactical vehicle - the Unimog that was moltov'ed the other day - uses a snorkel as its air intake, instead of a convential intake near the grille. This snorkel, however, is a weak spot. If something blocks the intake, the engine starves of oxygen and is disabled until the blockage is removed.
There are two types of foam:
Expanding construction foam would near-instantly block the snorkel, and the engine would starve of oxygen quickly. Effectiveness depends on if the air filter is on top of the snorkel or inside somewhere in an air box. Most designs include the filter at the top of the snorkel, and it may be possible to be forcibly pulled off. Ideally, you need to get the foam past the filter.
Expanding foam could applied with the following methods:
Fishing nets with barbs to entrap or destroy vehicles?
Protestors Might also consider using spiked nets:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4870602/Police-reveal-spiked-net-stop-vehicle-terror-attacks.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R77cNfruMsc
They wrap around the axles and immobilize the vehicle forcing the officers to abandon it. They also deflate the tires. These could likely be made from fishing nets with caltrops attached. The caltrops themselves could be made from steel wire, similar to how barbed wire barbs are made.
Thank you to /u/stressed_member for the suggestion.
Police vehicle facts, photos, and schematics:
DIY tools to cut or destroy any material, including steel and concrete:
These may be useful for manufacturing Czech Hedgehogs or other barriers from heavy gauge steel (i.e. 1/4" or more). It could also be used to cut into structures of vehicles. Please use responsibly, as these tools can be VERY, VERY destructive!
^(Thank you to everyone who gilded my post.)
Something I've always been taught in strap recoveries is to throw your jacket or a blanket over the middle of the strap. Beats a hook to the back of the head.
Edit: I'm copying this from my comment below so more people see it -
Other than just taking some energy out, it will also change the direction of the hook/"whatever is still attached to strap" towards not straight at you or the other driver-it has killed people.
For pulling someone out, always use a recovery strap, or this can happen:
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/fire/reports/face200622.html
http://www.4x4training.com/Articles/DeadlyMistakes/DontLoseYourHead.html
NEVER USE THIS KIND OF STRAP: http://www.amazon.com/Neiko-Heavy-Duty-Strap-Hook/dp/B000IAIP72/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1396559247&sr=1-1
If that hook slides off or breaks, it will go through the back windshield, your head, and the front windshield, like they weren't even there.
Buy a recovery strap and hook it into your hitch like this: http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/46283968+w600+re0/129-1307-01%2Blow-buck-liberation-getting-unstuck%2Btow-strap-in-hitch-pin
Use a properly rated D-ring/Shackle that is specifically rated for loads, and more importantly--IS RATED FOR A HIGHER LOAD THAN YOUR STRAP. You never, ever want to have the shackle be the point of failure, or it turns into a missile.
It is better to walk home after getting stuck than to get carried to the morgue. Remember-Stay safe, stay alive.
http://smile.amazon.com/Bumper-Dumper-Original-Mountable-Portable/dp/B006IVN03O
Here is an example of what you need in that situation.
I do a lot of surfing and canyoneering; both of which require me to stash my key due to water. I can't lock the key in the car because it won't lock. I've been clipping it to a carabiner on the rear passenger side behind the wheel, but this has downsides (someone seeing me, and I'm always afraid it's still close enough to detect presense and unlock). After burning my hand on the exhaust pipe by not being careful, I decided to find something new.
I found this, but the reviews weren't convincing me of its quality, the drawer looked small, I wasn't sure it would fit the 3rd gen, and it was more than I wanted to spend. I ended up welding this box and pairing it with a combination lock receiver lock. I hope this gives other people ideas if they're in a similar predicament.
You want neither of those, and want a wheel lock.
None of the contractor trailers in town rely on tonguelocks for the reason that they are easily circumvented with bolt cutters.
Edit: Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Trimax-TWL100-Ultra-Max-Adjustable-Wheel/dp/B003E1GLSM/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1536807139&sr=8-14&keywords=wheel+lock+trailer
This probably will get lost in the thread, but boot the car:
http://www.amazon.com/Trimax-TWL100-Ultra-Max-Adjustable-Wheel/dp/B003E1GLSM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1347493221&sr=8-2&keywords=car+boot
this is for Trucks...super sweet if you have a hitch
Personally prefer the trailer hitch edition. How can you go wrong with one called "The Bumper Dumper"?
I bought a used volt right after my graduation this spring. 2013 with ~41k miles. Traded up from an 04 Jeep Wrangler and haven't had any regrets at all.
To address your concerns about space:
The volt fit way more stuff in it than I was expecting, especially if you are able to fold the rear seats down. I was able to fit a foldable 8ft table, a mini fridge, two large bags of clothes, microwave, TV and a few boxes of kitchen stuff and other knick knacks if that kinda gives you an idea of how much camping equipment you could pack.
I also installed a hitch (Curt Manufacturing CURT 11221... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0072UHJ8W?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf) for exclusive use with a bike rack. Did the install with my dad and with the right tools it wasn't bad at all.
As for my considerations buying used:
The general consensus I found online (largely from this sub, thanks y'all) was that Volts are well built and reliable, especially regarding the battery so I wasn't too concerned about range degradation and just and went with one I found within my budget and general location (was not a very wide selection). I maybe could have shopped around a little more, had one shipped to a dealer near me, etc. but I found one that fit most of what I was looking for and didn't really have time to be picky. One thing I do wish I would have payed more attention to was tire wear as I'm likely going to have to replace mine soon but live and learn I guess.
Having a 2013+ is nice because you get a slightly bigger battery over previous models I believe. You also get hold mode which is nice for road trips but by no means a necessity. Mine also has heated seats which I hear are great in the winter because they're much more efficient on the battery than blowing hot air. Haven't had had to test this yet and won't be a big issue for me in south Texas anyway but I think it would be worth considering for colder climates.
I don't have a backup camera. This was concerning to me at first. The volt is really pretty awful as far as rear visibility is concerned, at least compared to my jeep. After a about a month though it started feeling normal and isn't a big concern for me anymore. I thought about installing one aftermarket but getting it integrated into the original infotainment system was more complex/expensive than I deemed worth and I didn't want to mess with adding other screens or projecting to my phone or anything like that.
When it came to picking a volt in general. After factoring in the value of my Jeep + cost savings from way better fuel economy + the savings of using electricity vs gas I realized the volt would pay for itself in less than 5 years + I get nice things my jeep didn't have like Bluetooth audio, remote doors, and maybe most importantly for me reliable AC so it just made sense for me.
As a previous commenter alluded to, everyone's finances are different so it's totally up to you to decide if a volt is worth it for you.
I'm three months in and so far loving my decision. A PHEV is a perfect fit for me. I make regular trips ~400 miles to see family and friends so full electric wasn't viable. But during a typical week I get to drive on all electric all the time for ~ ½ the price of gas. As far as I could tell the Volt is the best PHEV at its price point for a used ~ 5 year old model.
Sorry for being a little long winded but I hope this helps your decision. And congrats on your upcoming graduation!
If the alley has the parking marked for your company only, I would suggest your manager buy a car boot and make them pay to take it off.
PS - who knew you could buy one of those off amazon...
I own the same carrier and ended up getting one of these to tighten things up a bit. Mine was a bit loose in the receiver and this did the trick. Welcome to the club and as my father used to say, "If you don't fall down you aren't going fast enough!"
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0001CMUV4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You are better off using a recovery strap to pull someone who is stuck on the side of the road. If the metal hooks on the end of your tow strap fail, now you have a projectile shooting towards either your car or the other guy's car. Those straps are more for pulling someone at a constant speed on the road.
My car was swiped just last week. Second time this year. The club, it does nothing!
Looked into a few other options, including the Disklok & maybe even booting my own car.
Also thought about getting a little mini gps to stash in the car, which could help to track it down.
Pain in the ass. Fuckin' thieves!
http://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-29312B-Receiver-Shackle-Receivers/dp/B001CF1A7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463111234&sr=8-1&keywords=hitch+receiver+shackle
Why make one, when you can buy it from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/TMS-Wheel-Trailer-Anti-theft-Towing/dp/B00JLUDA84
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003E1GLSM/ref=psdc_15706751_t2_B00JLUDA84
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000SDVEU4/ref=psdc_15706751_t1_B003E1GLSM
take your pick :)
Just like the bumper dumper!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006IVN03O/
Do you have a hitch?
Hitch Safe
I use one of these little guys
HitchSafe HS7000 Key Vault https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I66JEM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_SluqzbTBPH13A
Bumper Dumper
I installed the CURT 11412 hitch on my MK7 and MK7.5. It was pretty easy to install, only about 30 minutes and a few bolts.
Class 1 Trailer Hitch with Ball Mount, 1-1/4-Inch Receiver Black 1-1/4" for for Select Volkswagen Golf, GTI https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0133WU3K8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_VwEWCb4BGXSG0
This kind of thing already exists, and in my opinion is being done better. The “hitch vault” logo is a giveaway. For the model I’m comparing to, the at least have a cover to help conceal the fact that it’s a safe.
HitchSafe HS7000 Key Vault https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I66JEM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GecdBb3HAHEZH
A Saris Bones is an OK trunk rack. That's as good as a trunk rack gets. It can rub on your paint, and I don't like the way it holds the bikes by the top tube.
In general, trunk racks are garbage though. If you're going to use it regularly, do yourself a favor and invest in a towing receiver and proper hitch mounted rack. You can get a Curt hitch with free shipping from Amazon for around $130. I installed it myself with one friend and a socket wrench. It's super no-brainer 100% easy. Then get a wheels-on hitch rack like a Kuat Transfer or something similar. They contact the bike only on the tires/wheels and don't touch the frame at all. The bikes don't sway, the wheels don't turn. The rack doesn't contact your paint at all, and can be tipped out of the way so that the hatch can open even with 2 bikes loaded.
​
But if you're rarely going to move bikes around, the Saris Bones is fine. Roof racks are a pain in the ass.
I wouldn't consider it cheap. On Amazon, this is $13.22. Also on Amazon, you can get a 10,000 lb capacity tow strap for $12.99. For 27 cents more than the bottle cutter, you can get a 50,000 lb capacity tow strap for $13.49
Here's one on Amazon for only $150. Not quite as hard core, but try telling me a better model would be 5x as expensive.
This it the one I got it came with the hardware took me 15 minutes https://www.amazon.com/Sparco-01612RS-Red-Tow-Strap/dp/B00BG423YA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610025&sr=8-1&keywords=sparco+tow+strap
Start Here
https://www.amazon.com/Camco-51611-Hitch-Flagpole-Holder/dp/B004IVGA0G
I have the EZ Lift 1000. With the sway control. It’s very adjustable. I have about 10000 miles on it. Still working great.
EAZ LIFT 48058 1000 lbs Elite Kit, Includes Distribution, Sway Control and 2-5/16" Hitch Ball-1,000 lbs Tongue Weight Capacity (48058-A) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005SB6S3Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rn6rDbDJK4ZFA
Don't even gotta make your own. For under $200, you too can be a massive asshole.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BG423YA/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_daFgub1VK115G they're called tow straps
I've always thought one of these would be great for vanlife.
https://www.amazon.com/Bumper-Dumper-Original-Mountable-Portable/dp/B006IVN03O
Here's what you need for a DIY install using a Curt hitch/harness:
Double check at the Curt website to see if these are compatible with your Forester trim.
A hitch stabilizer will help keep the hitch basket from wobbling as much as normal.
https://www.amazon.com/StowAway-Tightener-Anti-Rattle-Stabilizer-Hitches/dp/B0001CMUV4
So the hitch that I found sits comfortably behind the number and actually affects the exit angle very little if at all. I'll also be getting a 1 1/4 to 2 inch adapter that is technically only meant for class II hitches, but for only holding a spare tire, it will be fine. It's also fine for holding a bike rack or something. I'll edit this comment when I'm at my computer and show you what I'm getting
EDIT:
If all this metal that's bolted to your car is rattling around way too much because of the couple millimeters of play in the hitches, pick yourself up a couple of these and it's problem solved.
Hope this helps! If you want to know anything else, let me know
Edit 2: formatting
Get a weight distributing hitch. I had sag like that when towing my flatbed trailer with my ATVs on it. I installed one of these badboys and now I tow completely level.
Pic after install
Yeah...clean out everything from it before you go, and leave an itinerary under the driver’s seat.
Side note, if you have a trailer hitch and don’t want to risk losing your keys, there are mini combination safes for leaving your keys with the vehicle that lock into the trailer hitch with a cap to hide the combo lock like this one: HitchSafe HS7000 Key Vault https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I66JEM/ (~$45)
Get one that goes into your hitch. It'll be centered and easily removed.
https://discountflagoutlet.com/index.php/tow-hitch-mount-flagpole-holder.html If you don't want to buy one, you could probably make one pretty easily using an old ball mount.
Here's another one I just found:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-51611-Hitch-Flagpole-Holder/dp/B004IVGA0G
I like stuff that'll fit into a hitch because its not a permanent modification. I'm not drilling holes in my vehicle. If I don't like the look of something I can simply remove it from the hitch and sell it.
As in shoving something in the gap around the square tubing? No. The ball mount did bounce around on my old 1 1/4" hitch, but I didn't feel/hear anything with this one (though with the trailer off, I can jiggle it around some). Maybe after a few trips it'll start wearing away, but I probably wouldn't do anything about it.
Looks like you can use something like this, but I like the ability to quickly connect/disconnect.
https://www.amazon.com/StowAway-Tightener-Anti-Rattle-Stabilizer-Hitches/dp/B0001CMUV4
Beautiful work, OP. It seriously looks like a real product.
For hams with a 2" hitch receiver, this works WONDERS as a base. Works great with the SOTA Beams telescoping pole, and I'm pretty sure the Jackite pole would fit as well (2.3" ID).
I run a hitch stabilizer (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01KZ25Y26/) which helps to significantly reduce the amount of play between your hitch and the carrier itself. That and some quality straps helps to keep everything snug and solid.
If you have some slop between the hitch rack and receiver, you can use a "hitch tightener" or "hitch anti-sway clamp" to get rid of it.
I think this is the one I use with my hitch rack:
https://www.amazon.com/StowAway-Tightener-Anti-Rattle-Stabilizer-Hitches/dp/B0001CMUV4
It's worked well with my XR650L, which is close to 350 lbf with a full tank of gas. I can just about stand on one edge of the rack without any twist between the rack and receiver. It eliminated a lot of bounce and sway of the rack with respect to my SUV.
As others have said it's your money; do as you wish.
All that said; how bad were you really stuck?
You can get recovery boards to leave in your toolbox
http://www.amazon.com/Innovations-20333-Escaper-Orange-Traction/dp/B00AV2HONS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1410038008&sr=8-2&keywords=maxx+traxx
You can get winches and pull anchors for use when you don't have a tree to strap to and mount them on a receiver plat form so you can remove it when you need to;
http://www.amazon.com/WARN-86245-VR8000-000-Winch/dp/B004UJ3IAQ/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1410038095&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=Warn+winch
http://www.amazon.com/PULL-PAL-WINCH-ANCHOR-11000-Heavy-Duty/dp/B004WFX8HQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1410038122&sr=1-1&keywords=Pull+pal
You can run an all terrain tire and you will get further than highway tread even on a 2wd truck- and your truck needs tires anyway why not go all terrain if you can find one that has decent road manners (I run firestone destination A/Ts and they have been just fine).
See the thing is- that entire list is all stuff that people hang off of 4x4s anyway!
So, buy recovery boards, buy a winch on a hitch mount, buy A/Ts and leave your stockers out in the garage. See if your truck still gets stuck. Still getting stuck? Upgrade to a 4x4. Sell your truck with the stockers on it, throw the A/Ts and recovery boards and winch on your new 4x4.
If you read off road magazines, most of them will tell you not to go off road by yourself in the first place. None of them will tell you to take a 2x4 off road, but none are going to tell you that a 4x4 simply will not get stuck.
> you shitbuckets!
Relevant.
a) smarties!!!! we both have them on our lists!!!
now that im looking we have a lot in common on our lists same protein powder, sour patch kids. creatine. and now im going to add the bumper dumper
b) since we have a lot of the same items, im gonna try to pull things off my wishlist that you might like:
You seem to do a lot of outdoors type stuff, how about a waterproof iphone case. a recovery strap incase you ever get suck or need to pull someone out.
You must workout since you have protein powder and the like: i hear this is a great workout book.
and last but not least, a camping cot
http://www.amazon.com/Trimax-TWL100-Ultra-Max-Adjustable-Wheel/dp/B003E1GLSM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1463973468&sr=8-4&keywords=Car+boot
Yeah dude heres a link
https://www.amazon.com/Sparco-01612RS-Red-Tow-Strap/dp/B00BG423YA
You could modify the screw plug that hides the tow thread to have like a letter box cut out in it so the strap comes out nicely instead of a huge hole and a piece of rope hanging out of it haha
There's a local junkyard/parts place near where I live. I got it for free because I know the guy who owns the place, but I'd just look at your local junkyard for a wrecked Outback! :)
Here's the tow ring! I had to do a tiny amount of cutting to get it to fit just right, but that wasn't too bad.
-http://www.amazon.com/Camco-51611-Hitch-Flagpole-Holder/dp/B004IVGA0G
-http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Hitch-Flag-Holder-Made/dp/B00KXDFGMQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1404638839&sr=1-2&keywords=flagpole+hitch
One's angled the other's not, i prefer the angled but up to you.
Or this if you don’t have time to make one.
Sparco Tow Strap
There are two places to hook up near the hitch of the Ridgeline and then the other end was wrapped around the other truck’s frame. I used this strap from amazon; Presa 21079 Heavy Duty 10000 lb.... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011ARI3FK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I saw them struggling and the front wheels spinning so I’d assume it’s a 4x4 if the front wheels had power?
[Here's some people debating some important things.] (http://www.4x4overlandtravel.com/t260-driving-on-sand-open-diff-traction-control-lsd-locker-at-or-mt)
If you can get an auto with crawl control, [they can un-bury themselves in sand up to the frame.] (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi548GCtqXLAhUU2mMKHaf7AJwQyCkIHjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D19BNRvuNLWE&usg=AFQjCNGIdvDnjdRZhX3y31C570h5Hayesw) 2016 3rd gen only though. If you have a manual, take it easy and leave your lead foot before the sand starts.
I drilled tie down points into my bed and fastened with toggle bolts. My spare water and fuel supplies are attached via bungee cord to these. Check TacomaWorld for a "locker anytime" mod if you get the TRD OR version so you can activate it in 2 or 4hi. Momentum is your friend.
If you're going to be in and out of the desert a lot, I'd highly recommend [an onboard air system] (https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/on-board-air-install-lots-o-pics.150258/) and [tire deflators] (http://www.walmart.com/ip/19512682?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227015534628&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40839239552&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=78652380752&veh=sem).
Tow package is important because it adds an engine oil cooler (& transmission cooler on autos) as well as the other usual bits. Could also use a set of [Treds] (https://www.tred4x4.com/).
Totally overkill, but why the hell not. [12,000 lb winch] (http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-Winch-Accessories/12-000-lbs-Electric-Winches.aspx?t_c=18&t_s=300&t_pt=100700&Manufacturer_PQ=Warn) and a [sand anchor] (http://www.amazon.com/PULL-PAL-WINCH-ANCHOR-11000-Heavy-Duty/dp/B004WFX8HQ).
Personally, I'd recommend just going with a 2009-2011 TRD OR w/ A-Trac. But I don't have any experience driving on sand so take what I say loosely.
Not OP but it looks like a D ring. it also looks like he cut the top off and drilled the key to fit the D ring.
https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-13047B-Black-D-Ring/dp/B001CF1A6U (not the correct size)
One security-through-obscurity option if you have a trailer hitch. Also a 4-digit combo, but whatever.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004IVGA0G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_7jAMtCbb1stX6
This might be your best bet. I've had it for a couple on months now and not too bad. Got up go 80 MPH multiple times with no problem. Use a 2" PVC pipe from Home Depot and spray paint it black then get two eyehook screws and call it a day!
People rant and rave about Blue Ox WDH. However, I use this one, and I am pleased with it so far.
Here's what I used on my 2015. CURT 56040 Custom Wiring Connector https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0031G8GME/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_cV1QokYoMupLk
It took about 15 minutes to install. Really easy.
As far as your hitch is concerned, I bought this one for my mom for her 2016 Forester. It took all of 30 min to put on, and then another 15 min to hook the wiring up. There are youtube videos on how to do it. The dealership wanted $500 to do this, vs the 45 min and $110 to buy it on Amazon, so it was a no brainer.
I keep one of these on my car with spare cash and keys. It's handy and secure.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I66JEM/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_JJvRub04VJK5M
For the front and rear as long as you have a tow hitch in the rear.
I have this one. Its been used a ton and is still holding up very well. I think I paid 10-12 bucks for it.
I would recommend a flag pole hitch mount like this one: Camco 51611 Hitch Mount Flagpole Holder https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004IVGA0G and then get a flagpole in whatever length you need.
Normally trail riders want easy access to these tow points. Yes, they absolutely can be used, but standard OEM mounts are a hassle.
Generally if they aren't easy to see and get to on the trail without climbing under a rig, the average cable puller will not consider them tow points, and some trail leaders might not let you go on a trail without purpose installed after market hooks. Usually vehicles only have one front and rear tow point and you need two front and two rear for safety and convenience. Hooks are considered basic off road items.
However, all this depends on how you plan to use it off road. Are you wanting to trail it, or camp, light excursions?
They are cheap and easy to install and can be tucked under the bumper if you like. Just bolt them to the frame, don't weld them there. Welds will generally fail before bolts because lets face it, you will be "snatched" more than pulled if you are stuck and not high-centered.
Get at least one (or two) good tow rope(s) and attach it before you go out and just toss the free end in your window, or on your roof. This way when you get stuck, you can climb out and just toss the rope to the rig in front of you and your are out in a jiffy. This will really go a long way to good karma on a trail if you aren't asking others to come get you, or slowing down the others because you unhook after every pull. You will end up using your rope 4x more than a winch anyway unless you are alone on a trail.
Any wheeling will be horrible on gas milage, but if you want to be tidy and keep your rig looking clean, I have seen more than a few people use hitch-mounted winch mounts with handles and only have the winch there when wheeling. And you can toss it in the back and lock it up when your not using it as a daily driver.
Installing a tow hitch in the front and rear to move a winch from front to back as you need is not perfect, but it is very acceptable when done safely, so you get two-for-one winching. Make sure you take good measurements, or have one custom made, or even just go to your local 4x4 shop and get them to help you with the measurements. Never significantly cut/alter an OEM hitch for obvious reasons.
A secondary benefit to a tow hitch on both ends is you can use it as a tow point instead/in addition to tow points and move this around as needed also.
As far as a winch, you don't need a 18k monster, but enough to tug yourself out. General rules are 2-3x your vehicles weight. On a trail, most often if you are in a caravan, a good trail leader will put you sandwiched between two experienced trailers, so about 1/2 the time you will just pull rope to the rig in front and use it as your anchor. So weight shouldn't be a big issue.
Also get a snatch block and a tree saver so you can pull yourself out if you need to. This way you don't harm the tree, but still use it to get yourself out.
But first, tires.
Ask anyone that has been on a trail, MT tires (not AT's) should be your first investment. You can get a really good MT that will last a very long time as daily use if you do not get an overly aggressive tread. And they look badass.
The Bumper Dumper
http://www.amazon.com/Bumper-Dumper-The-Original-Mountable/dp/B006IVN03O
I have been using the curt wiring harness for a few years. Works great, plugs into the factory plug in the trunk. CURT 56040 Wiring T-Connector https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0031G8GME?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Wonderful information.
Do you have any links to the products you mention?
Edit: NVM, found a few.
Window: https://www.amazon.com/KeyGuard-SL-591-Window-Punch-Button/dp/B01FWYKGBQ
Hitch: https://www.amazon.com/HitchSafe-HS7000T-HS7000-Key-Vault/dp/B000I66JEM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hitch+lock+box&qid=1554846851&s=automotive&sr=1-1
It's just a novelty hitch cover.
Double check this one. It should fit all 14-15
Curt 13144 Black Class-3 Trailer Hitch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CLMBE5A/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_K6Sdvb13XW5B8
I've had one before. http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-CR402-Propeller-Hitch-Cover/dp/B00029JMXA
Cheap plastic.
I've got this smittybilt which has worked great for pulling small tree stumps and did this to my gate post when I tried to drag it out.
I'd seriously reconsider pulling any stranger's cars though. If you wanna help carry jumpers, a snow shovel and a cell phone. Dont risk liability fucking up their (or your) vehicle trying to pull it.
Maybe take one of those boat propeller hitch covers and take off the propeller part and modify it to your helmet.
Eg like this http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00029JMXA?pc_redir=1407395366&robot_redir=1
wobble stabilizer
Buy one of these. Charge them a hundred to remove it.
You're merely subletting the space at a premium rate. Notify them that electricity is fifty extra.
EDIT:formatting
Going to go with /u/scoopspoop here. I installed the 2" Curt hitch ($120). You don't have to do it from the inside. It's actually a really easy install, especially if you have someone to give you a hand getting the hitch into position. I used this video to get me through the process. I used a grinding stone in my drill to enlarge two frame holes to fit bolts and spacers. You could use a file, too, but it would just take longer.
If you're going to be using it to tow (vs just using it for a cargo carrier or bike rack) it's also simple to install a wiring harness. I got the Curt harness for less than $30 and installed it in about 15-20 minutes using this walkthrough video. Note that this install has the cable go out the hatch. It's possible to route it out the underside. I would've gone that way if I planned on towing frequently, but since I'm not going to be towing often, I like not having the wiring exposed when it's not needed.
I have two of these i installed to prevent bouncing and such. One on the car bike rack and one on the hitch on the rv the car is attatched to. Not sure about the one on the rv doing much but i am sure the one the car for the bike rack reduced the amount of moving around the bike rack does. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001CMUV4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hitches are the way to go! Im currently using the Curt 11412 hitch on my '19 gti. I had a curt hitch on my veloster and it served me well. Amazon will state this will not fit on the '19 gti's but i confirmed on curt's site that i will in fact fit. Installed without any issues!
​
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0133WU3K8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is nothing more than a hitch cover
I equate that to these
If you have a trailer hitch, just get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/HitchSafe-HS7000T-HS7000-Key-Vault/dp/B000I66JEM
You might want to look into a hitch tightener or other anti-rattle device.
http://www.amazon.com/StowAway-Cargo-Carriers-20-6-Tightener/dp/B0001CMUV4/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1465239011&sr=1-1&keywords=hitch+tightener
I used this from Amazon. Made it really simple. Camco 51611 Hitch Mount Flagpole Holder https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004IVGA0G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JleIxb0T3VG59
Get one of these hitch tighteners. It works really well at removing most of the shaking.
Here you go https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004IVGA0G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_AHUhAb22Y48TF
I used this flag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FA6BLC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PIUhAbFC0RBT8
For the actual pole I bought a 4-5 foot fencing pole from Lowe's drilled some holes into it and bolted on some mounting clips for the flag then I spray painted the whole thing black... Oh and at the bottom there's a bolt that they give you to "secure the pole" but it's flimsy so I just went to Lowe's and bought a black hex key bolt and used that to actually secure it. Last thing I needed is the flag flying into the ocean lol
I disagree.
looks like this one will fit.
Maxtrax
Also D-Rings and a tow strap or snatch strap for somebody to pull you out.D-Ring Snatch Strap
Get a hitch tightener. It will alleviate much of the "normal" noises a hitch can make. But yes, like everyone else says, make sure your hitch etc is correct.
https://www.amazon.com/StowAway-Cargo-Carriers-20-6-Tightener/dp/B0001CMUV4
Home made, here’s the link to the flagpole holder:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004IVGA0G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9OVhDb4SM16VD
Also need the post, the flag, the cap to the post, and a three o-ring clamps. Two of the o-rings are are for the flag and one I put about midway up so I can lock down the post with ratchet straps to prevent swaying (makes it stable even on the highway)
Well I got it today, took it to the guy that mounts radio and other things to see what lights to get and we went though amazon shopping and found this AutoTime 2 Pack 25W LED Work Light Flood Spot Combo Beam 3000K Yellow Amber Led Pods Light Small Offroad Driving Fog Light for Motorcycle Jeep SUV Truck Wrangler Boat Tractor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07919XWT8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_nYajDbWA0DQFM
And I also found this hitch for foresters
CURT 13144 Class 3 Trailer Hitch, 2-Inch Receiver for Select Subaru Forester https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CLMBE5A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_0YajDb90P0A2T
And bought it
Bet he wishes he had one now.
I'd spend the extra $100 and take my chances on a SmittyBilt
Or you could to the opposite and put a trailer boot on it. A-hahaha! Watcha gonna do now buddy?
That was my concern when I picked it up so I ordered this just in case. It made it rock solid.
amazon
If you want to buy a flagpole mount, here's a good one on Amazon
Exactly, I went with the 30, 000 lbs because i got a sweet deal, its smittybuilt and im no where close to that weight so its a bit of piece of mind
Here is the link!
+1 for ditch the running boards. The trailer hitch as well unless you plan to use it or need a strapping point. If so then one of these https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-29312B-Receiver-Shackle-Receivers/dp/B001CF1A7O and an actual recovery strap which is different than a tow strap. The best thing you can ever get for 4x4ing is a FRIEND to go with vs alone.
We must be talking about different things. A wdh doesn’t need to be installed. You attach/remove it every time you use it (the one I have anyways). I’m on my phone, I’ll post a link later...
Edit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005SB6S3Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_jZG7BbXRWE73F
The []() link thing isn’t working 🤔
The Curt hitches are hard to beat for the price...
ex: https://www.amazon.com/CURT-13144-Class-Trailer-Hitch/dp/B00CLMBE5A
For sway control, absolutely. These things aren't like pa's tandem axle car hauler. They are built to be light weight and light on the tongue, 10% of the camper weight, so they blow around everywhere. If you want to go the cheap route just buy the sway control and have the metal tab welded (picture 2) welded to an extended ball mount so it looks something like this but gives you more clearance. It's worth the 100 bucks in safety.
The other option is buy The whole set and install it yourself. It's not difficult and there's youtube videos all over the place. If you do buy a WDH bigger is not better. The leverage involved can do a lot of damage to the tow vehicle or trailer so don't just buy a 12000lb set and hook it to your 3000lb tow light.
These numbers are straight out of my ass because I don't know your cab, axle, 4wd, but here goes. Generic v8 full-size truck payload 1500lb. GCVW 7000. Trailer Max- 7500ish
Single axle trailer up to 4500lb- sway control, no WDH
Tandem axle trailer up to 7500- sway control and WDH
Here's a non-ghetto way: http://www.amazon.com/Camco-51611-Hitch-Flagpole-Holder/dp/B004IVGA0G
/u/pghparagliding btw, if you experience a lot of wobble in the hitch, try a clamp.
https://www.amazon.com/RETECK-Tightener-Anti-Rattle-Stabilizer-Installation/dp/B01KZ25Y26/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1536790645&sr=8-3&keywords=hitch+clamp
Winch 9500lbs $299 waterproof bad ass never had an issue all my 4x4 buddies use them.
Smittybilt 97495 XRC Winch - 9500 lb. Load Capacity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JXS3BXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XC97ybC2JS6D0
If you have a trailer hitch, I can't recommend this enough.
It's a anchor for winches found these too: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074ZBWZVH/ref=psdc_7427916011_t1_B072LTWGNB
don't use the straps over a ball. its 32 bucks to do it safely
http://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-29312B-Receiver-Shackle-Receivers/dp/B001CF1A7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453630343&sr=8-1&keywords=shackle+receiver
So this would be a good thing to cary aroung ?? I currently only have a old rope with hooks (thing must be 30 years old hehe)
http://www.amazon.ca/Capri-Tools-20-ft-Heavy-Strap/dp/B011ARI3FK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453673042&sr=8-1&keywords=tow+strap
This guy knows his stuff.
I have a 2013 Volt. I used this hitch:
https://smile.amazon.com/CURT-11221-Class-Trailer-Hitch/dp/B0072UHJ8W
Then mount a motorcycle carrying rack on that. That should work just fine as long as it isn't over the weight limit for the hitch.
You add it.
They make it very simple. I don't know about volts, but mine used pre-existing holes. Just make sure to follow the directions.
Can't fix it being heavy, but you can use this to address the wobble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001CMUV4/?coliid=I27GJD1GE71WLC&colid=3IEN4PCTO7GYG&psc=0
Oem screw in attachment and the d ring is from Amazon. Smittybilt 13047B 3/4" Black D-Ring https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CF1A6U/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_aOpavb0YDMM77
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CF1A6U/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_aOpavb0YDMM77
Here is the mobile version of your link
I use this paired with this strap
this one, and its 1 1/4" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G4X4LQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also needed this to make it work though
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KZ25Y26/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and even then it isnt perfect
I was going to buy this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0031G8GME/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
and take the connector off I just saw that as a waste.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IS93BCE and
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JXS3BXI
i also got the rear bumper - needed some help from a local shop on unbolting the stock bumper, but i had no trouble installing the front bumper/winch myself
This is the hitch I have installed on my 2018 GTI https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0133WU3K8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001CF1A7O/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1425270317&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=d+ring+tow+shackle&dpPl=1&dpID=4105SPxSOQL&ref=plSrch
Something like this?
Another ME chiming in here.
My prediction on FMA is you're gonna snap that flag pole right where those eyebolts pass through it. No fancy ass metal base would stop that.
I agree, get something proper: http://smile.amazon.com/Camco-51611-Hitch-Flagpole-Holder/dp/B004IVGA0G (plus is someone rear ends you, they can be tried for treason)
I'm no expert, but I have this one https://www.amazon.com/Smittybilt-97495-XRC-Winch-Capacity/dp/B00JXS3BXI.
I love it. Hook up was a breeze and I've used it once and it worked like a dream. I bought mine from Amazon and had no problem. You could always opt for the synthetic line on the Smittybilt one too.
I bought it fair and square.
One of these would work well in the trailer hitch.
This would probably be the easiest method.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B003E1GLSM/ref=s9_acsd_simh_hd_bw_bA0DVaV_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=VGXK6DBZKMWP5RMVC3SC&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=38ce87ef-bd06-59ab-a973-890386474f2a&pf_rd_i=9164548011