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Some recommendations.
Ambidextrous mouses
Dream Machines DM1 FPS - Have heard good things about these mouses. Haven't used one personally but would not be against one if I was looking to try something different than what I already have.
Zowie FK series - Difference between the FK1, FK1+ and FK2 are just size.
Logitech G Pro - Personally I prefer the original over the new version with the Hero sensor because I like the PMW3366 better than the Hero16K but most people state they can't notice the difference. Also, original is pretty cheap right now.

Ergonomic mouses
Zowie EC series - Users report having issues with the scroll wheels on the B models (EC1-B,EC2-B) but that seems to be hit or miss. I have an EC2-B that I love and have no issues with. The B models have a newer sensor than the A models. B models have the PMW3360 sensor.
Logitech G403 - Great sensor (PMW3366) and fairly light at just over 87 grams.

You will probably notice these are some of the most popular mouses on this subreddit, haha. Take my recommendations with a grain of salt and do your own research as well. Hope this helped in any way!

Hello

I need to get a new mouse but I only have $30 USD but I don't know what to get these are the mice I have narrowed it down to M1, M2, M3, M4. The mice I have used in the past have been G502 (nice shape but too heavy) G203 (I liked the shape pretty well) Mionix Castor (My favorite mouse so far love the shape) MM531 (I hate this mouse it's too low and long) thanks for the help.

Games: Far Cry 5, Metro Exodus, DOS 2, Kenshi, CS:GO, Overwatch.

Hand Preference: Right-handed.

Hand Size: 17.78 x 8.89 cm

Grip: I hold my mouse exactly like this I have seen people call it palm/fingertip hybrid as well as relaxed claw so I don't know.

Weight: I don't really have a preference but nothing over 105 grams.

Sensitivity: Depends on what game I'm playing and what I'm doing but I usually use 1600.

Connectivity: Wired.

I'm thinking about getting a new mouse. I tried some out in store the other day, to discover they all feel more comfortable than the cheap thing I have right now. I don't quite know what it is that I want.

• Games: I don't have a primary atm, so a bit of everything. Though I rarely play fps games. [But I haven't tried Overwatch, and that might change my mind]. No MMO or MOBA. But I'll be using the mouse daily for everything, including general browsing and use while researching etc.
  
  
• Handed: Right. Though I do sometimes use my mouse in my left, so maybe ambidextrous. Not a requirement though, as I can happily use a right-handed w/ my left.
  
  
• Budget: Maximum at £50. But would prefer lower [since I don't need bells and whistles].
  
  
• Hand size: Average, ish. 17cm tip of the middle finger to the base of the hand. I think that's what you're asking for. 8cm sideways.
  
  
• Grip type: I tend to grip w/ my fingertips, and pivot on the 'ball' of my hand/ wrist. But I also change, and sometimes use others for a bit. edit: I think my grip type is heavily dependent on the mouse I'm holding. I tried a Mionix and it was comfortable.
  
  
• Weight: I don't know, I've never held a 'heavy' mouse before. So I'll just say average.
  
  Any other details:
  
  
• I generally would like to be able to adjust my mouses sensitivity on-mouse via buttons.
  
  
• I don't want any configuration via software i.e. plug and play. [as I use linux, and drivers are generally a bitch]
  
  
• No LEDS [or atleast disableable], and it can't look too gamery.
  
  
• Buttons near the thumb for browsing: back-up, go-forward type things.
  
  
• Preferably black or grey, but not required. Preferably non-obtuse logos, but not required.
  
  
• Since I don't play fps, I especially don't need a mouse that they tend to like, with really low sensitivity and sliding your hand all over the table to use. I don't have much desk space, and due to my fingertip-pivot-grip I need a sensitivity such that I can maneuver my cursor around my 24" monitor w/ ease.
  
  
• Wired
  
  
• Not a requirement, I don't know if such things exist, but - quiet? Do quiet mice exist?
  
  Since I don't know too much about mice, I'm quite open for suggestion, and I don't think I'm too picky and could have my mind changed if you recommend something. If there are any features [esp. ergonomic ones] you think would be useful to me, please tell me.
  
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  Also - What's with the mice with the free wheeling scrolls? Is there a list of mice that use this? What are the general uses for this? Looks quite fun though... So, if it's a choice that I can get w/o many sacrifices, I wouldn't say no.
  
  edit: I'll not have a look over logical increments if anything catches my eye. But I doubt it since I don't really know what I'm looking for. This Logitech G400s and Razer Deathadder are the kind of look I'm trying to avoid.

Keep in mind that most of these will have a generic stiff shit cable nor can I promise the shape will be for you.

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If you also plan on playing FPS with it:

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For 20 USD(!) back at 30 USD, the Havit HV-MS735 is a pretty good budget option. Has a 3360 sensor, 12 grid, side scroll, and is ~107 grams with the internal weight removed, which isn't too bad for a 12 grid mouse, not to mention it being at the current price that it is.

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At 30 USD, the updated Redragon M901 is the lightest 12 grid mouse available with a 3360. Has an additional button on the left side, and doesn't require any opening up to remove the weights. Weighs in at only 87 grams without weights.

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At 60 USD (50 refurbished), the Corsair Scimitar is a 12 grid mouse with a 336X variant. Has the gimmick with adjusting the 12 grid, which is actually not too bad because if a 12 grid doesn't sit exactly right, you either lose full functionality or comfort. Unfortunately weighs a buttload at ~120 grams, which is normally a deal breaker for some.

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Of course the Naga Trinity, which has the side panel gimmick. If the cable is like any recent Razer mouse, it'll have the best cable of the bunch by far. Also ~120 grams, so another monster in the weight class.

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If you don't care about having a good sensor:

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Logitech G600 at ~34 USD is an okay mouse. Logitech software is a lot better than Synapse and the crap the Chinese OEMs have. Has a pretty garbage sensor in it though, so FPS is going to be a no go.

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Honestly though, the HV-MS735 and M901 are good. Unless you insist on using a mainstream mouse or dislike Chinese OEM software, the Redragon M901 is amazing due its weight class and the HV-MS734 is a budget god at 20 USD is still really good at 30 USD if you want side scroll.

Looking for suggestions!

I currently have a Razer Deathadder 2013, and I like it alot. The problem is, its green, and everything else is blue. So I'm interested in the Proteus G502, although I'm not sure I need all the macros (the Deathadder's macros have been absolutely fine for me).

I'm glad to pay money to get the best product, but I was wondering, should I look into a G402? It's about $50 vs the G502 $70 (new). Is there a major difference between the two mice other than number of macros?

I generally like large mice, so it makes since that I've enjoyed the Deathadder's ergonomics. Should I just get a blue Deathadder like this? This is the model I have currently.

I'm welcome to any comments, thanks for reading.

NAGA EPIC USER HERE

I just dumped mine after the 3rd RMA. The original Nagas (2012) were amazing but the recent iterations have been pretty poor. Here are the options I found:

Corsair Scimitar Pro This is a smaller mouse than the naga, but provides the 12 button pad and has great software to boot

Logitech G600 This one is just a little too bulky for me, I have very small hands, but it is logitech. The dual dish feature is too weird for me.

Steelseries Rival 500 Not your standard layout, but a good sensor. Large mouse , very similar to the naga epic.

In the end, I went with the Rival 500, because I liked the features (programmable rumble support) and the Pixart 3360 Optical Sensor was a good choice. It is heavy, so not ideal for fps, but i use it anyways.

Also, there is always knockoff on amazon. My brother has this one and he loves it. Eh?

My hands are 18.3cm. I use a claw grip gaming and a fingertip/claw grip in Windows. I use the Mionix Castor on SteelSeries 9HD and really like it. I've tried a lot of mice. I don't own a Deathadder, so I don't know what kind of latency the left and right clicks have. The Mionix Castor has a couple extra ms in left/right click latency. I got used to it and don't really have an issue with it, but other people don't like it. If you think this is going to be an issue, I recommend checking out the Zowie EC2-A. I haven't tried this mouse, but I know the dimensions and shape are just about perfect for our hand size and claw grip usage. It doesn't have that rubber side grip like the deathadder or Castor, but you can use this grip tape on the sides. I put this tape on the Roccat Kone Pure, SteelSeries Sensei, and G303 when I was testing them. It works perfectly.

Looking for a comfortable ergonomic mouse.

Games:WoW/CSGO/Dota
Hand preference:right
budget:50-70$
Hand size:medium
Grip:whatever is most comfortable/ergonomic
weight:fairly light
Sensitivity 800-1200dpi
Connectivity:wired

My old mouse had these really easy to click right and left buttons:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Prime-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00OHJY7C2/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=g303+moba+mouse&qid=1567115856&s=gateway&sr=8-3


But I want those on a more ergonomic shape. My current g502 doesn't have the same easy to click buttons and its not as comfortable anyway. I used to really love the shape of my ec1 zowies,but want those easy click buttons.

I mainly play CSGO and I had the same problem. The Razer grip, Logitech grip, and the grips that came with my Skoll are all mediocre at best for me.

I highly recommend that you find whatever shape you like the best and put Lizard Skins Grip Tape on it. I promise you won't regret it. It is incredibly grippy with no residue or breaking apart. I put it on the sides where my fingers contact as well as the palm area.

You can make it look very aesthetically pleasing by cutting it to follow the curves of the mouse. Like this G305

Amazon Link

It's $10 for like 4ft and it beats any grip on any mouse you've tried by a mile.

Seconding Logitech G600 right here, it's going to be your best bet and it fits under your budget. If LEDs are out of the question, you can turn them off like /u/Dreyka1 said.

Remember that once you're done with the customisation and you need to get rid of software for whatever reason, you're free to uninstall it because mouse will remember your configuration and will behave the same everytime you plug/unplug it to yours or any other PC, free of hassle.

It also comes with two different colors, black and white, so you can get one that suits your liking... or your boss's caprice. Anyway, have a look.

Logitech overall guarantees best build quality and the mice will last for years, I'd say that would be best long-term investment.

Thanks for the detailed response. I read a few more reviews, and they all praised the mouse for roughly the same reasons you mentioned (simplicity but gets the job done). Since I don't buy this kind of stuff often, I usually trust mice with more reviews on Amazon and stuff like that (which is why I was highly considering Deathadder; I like to keep it "safe", so to speak), but I'll definitely highly consider this one.

Since I'm buying from Amazon, if I were to choose the Nixeus Revel, it would be this one?: https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Light-weight/dp/B01HHH74K2

G403. It’s the one I have, and it’s treated me well. It’s on sale right now for a a couple dollars over your price range. Definitely worth it. Includes side buttons and programmable DPI. Pretty minimal RGB too. Some people don’t like the hump on this mouse so look up a video to see if it would be something you would like. RocketJumpNinja does great reviews on youtube. Best bang for your buck imo.

Amazon G403

Games: CSGO, Overwatch (Primarily Overwatch)

Hand Preference: Right

Budget:: $30-45 CAD

Hand Size: Big, IDK i'll come back to this when I get home

Grip: Palm

Weignt: No preference

Sensitivity: Low in games, high otherwise

Additional details: I'd like for it to have some extra buttons on the sides, and either a DPI changing button, or an easy to use software to change my DPI

Currently looking at the Razer Deathadder Chroma (On sale) and the Steelseries Rival 100 (Also on sale, but it's been at this price for ages) I have a friend willing to sell me a Rival 300 for $50 CAD, but idk if that's worth it. Currently using this piece of shit. I don't have a mousepad and I am looking to buy one so if you can find a good mouse for under my budget let me know please. Thanks in advance.

Mionix Naos 7000. Great mouse, used it for years.

https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY

PMW-3310 sensor so almost the best sensor out there, it's a little heavier than the super gamer light mice at 147g (that's still fairly light overall and is just the weight including the cable, which the g303 you ahve is 137g with cable) but it has the ergonomic shape you are looking for and the rubber surface is great in keeping you from sweating and giving you better grip for lifts.

if you don't mind a wired mouse the I-rocks m36 pro has a great shape one of the best Ive ever tried and my hands are smaller then you it has optical switches, split clicks, and EC2-B/G403 similar shape

Dimensions: L 119 mm X W 64.0 mm X H 41.5 mm

• if you want to buy
  
• info on i-rocks m36
  
  the Logitech G303 might also be up your ally its amazing for relaxed claw(palm/claw) I would get the g302 on amazon to try out the shape and if you like it then get the g303 on ebay or the /r/MouseMarket.
  
  Dimensions: L 115 X W 65 X H37mm
  
  
• link to buy G302

I actually don't even like a lot of the "flashy 'gamer' aesthetics". This mouse suggested by u/Sturmgeshootz is a high possibility now, but since I am upping my price range anyway do you know of a good mouse with even more than 2 extra buttons in the $30 range? I'm perfectly happy with two side buttons, but more can always be a help in some games

Games: League of Legends, Not FPS games

Hand Preference: Right or Ambi

Budget: Thinking the most expensive I would go is a deathadder

Hand Size: 18

Grip: Palm

Weight: No Preference

Sensitivity: High

Additional Details: Kinda narrowed it down to the nixeus revel or a deathadder just based on a little research and I would like to know what you guys think.

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Mouse-Windows/dp/B01HHGHCH8

I am leaning towards the deathadder just due the popularity of it, so it's obviously tried and true. I would like to know what you guys think in respect to is it worth the cost. I also don't know what the difference is between these two deathadders, if someone could clarify that would be great. Are there different types like non chroma and chroma?

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Elite-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B01LXC1QL0/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501878159&sr=1-4&keywords=razer+deathadder

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501878159&sr=1-3&keywords=razer+deathadder

> I want a mouse that is light, small/medium size, has light left/right buttons, 2 buttons on the left side, preferable large skates under the mouse, flex cable... or wireless and good optical sensor.

A Zowie mouse would probably be your best bet.

> don't care about an accessible dpi button, lightning and not so much the scroll wheel.

Yup. Zowie it is.

Sounds like you were comfortable using the Sensei but the Deathadder Chroma was too big.

I'd recommend the Zowie FK1. It's very similar to the Sensei shape AND fits all the criteria you mentioned (no lights/large skates/side buttons/etc.).

Make sure you pick up the ones that use Omron switches though, since you mentioned that having light left/right buttons are important.

Not trying to come off as spammy, but I've done a review on the FK1 which would be a good fit for you. Check out my review on the Zowie FK series if you'd like.

Note: I receive commission from Amazon if you purchase something after clicking my link

Here's a non-affiliate link to the Zowie FK Series if you're uncomfortable with me getting paid that way.

Let me know if you have any questions about it, I've used the Deathadder Chroma and G302 before so I know where you're coming from.

The Logitech M series was designed for long casual use, so its sensor and software are far from gaming grade. It's the "best wireless mouse" if your criteria is desktop use and long battery life.

For wireless gaming mice, the G602 is king IMO. As close a feeling to a good wired mouse I've tried. Great optical performance and amazing battery life for how well it tracks.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse-Battery/dp/B00E4MQODC

You might check out the G303...https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1465548442&sr=1-1&keywords=Logitech+G303



If you're looking for something that's 20 bucks you can find the g100s easily on amazon for 20 dollars or less what we recommend is buying them on amazon then returning them(a few days is usually enough time to figure out if long term usage will give you cramps) and trying another mouse if you're in the United States, Best Buy sometimes has a selection of gaming mice that you can put your hand around.


https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G100s-Optical-Gaming-package/dp/B00SH30V6A?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0


Sadly, we can't match your usage exactly, reviews and advice are approximations of what /r/mousereview does. You'll have to do some experimentation and figure out what gripstyle you use and how big your hands are.


/u/rocketjumpninja might be able to help you out in the OEM mice department better than any of us.

Thing | DM1 Pro S | Nixeus Revel
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Sensor | Pixart 3360 (or 3310 on the dm1 pro) | Pixart 3360
Shape | Mostly identical to Sensei | Slightly lower profile hump compared to Sensei
Buttons | Omron 20M | Omron 20M
Weight | 85 grams | 84 grams (or +15 grams if you buy from their site and choose the extra weight)
Skates | Thickness is unknown to me, but it's the same shape of the Sensei's (+ you get spares) | Thickness is also unknown here, but the Sensei skates won't fit (revel's feet are smaller)
Cable | Red/black braided | Black rubber
Software/Drivers | Driverless | Has some beta software out
Shells | Can be matte (black) or glossy (black) | Can be matte (black) or glossy (white)
Prices | 50$ USD (+some shipping) @ dreammachines.io | 40$ USD (free prime shipping woo) @ Amazon

Alright, here are some things you might want to address if you decide to buy one of these:
Main Clicks
Mouse1 and Mouse2 on the DM1 Pro S are known to have quality control issues in regards to the shell, which causes one or both switches to be stiffer/have more "squish" and travel than the other. For me, I got mine with the Mouse1 squishy. You're prompted with two decisions: RMA it (shipping fee is not paid for unfortunately) or open it up and do a fix on it (xtenglong of Overclock.net's fix, works on DM1 Pro S as well). The fix worked alright for me, but I ended up having to use the spare feet. The Nixeus Revel is also known to have these issues, but on a much smaller scale
tl;dr nixeus revel > dm1 pro s for button tolerance quality control
Side Buttons
Buttons for both mice are only on the left side, making it a right hander's mouse. DM1 Pro S' buttons are bigger and are glossy, while the Nixeus Revel has thinner buttons that are probably textured/smooth plastic. The Revel has it's buttons closer to the back of the mouse as well. Travel on DM1 Pro S for it is larger than expected, but not unbearable. Cannot say anything for the Revel since I don't have one.
Cable Strain Relief
DM1 Pro S has an issue that has the cable dipping down from the cable's strain relief. Nixeus Revel users are probably less prone to this (lighter cable + the rubber nib is a bit pushed up so it doesn't go directly down). Fixed my personal DM1 Pro S' strain relief by cutting part of it away.
LED
DM1 Pro S has a visible led inside, while powered. Everything is lit up, but there is a distinctly more bright source. Nixeus Revel gets away with this by having a smaller, but a more even illumination of the logo (and a thinner strip of light at the bottom). Might be wrong about the Revel, but the DM1 Pro S' led is visible.
overall tl;dr:
you're probably safer with the nixeus revel, but if you're willing to take a small gamble/deal with some minor issues, the dm1 pro s has a "truer" shape to the sensei

If you can save up a little more money for your mouse budget. Amazon has the wireless Logitech G403 on sale for around $58 USD: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Prodigy-Gaming-Performance-Sensor/dp/B01KUAMCV4


I own the wired version, and can't be happier with it. It's a deceptively large mouse, so a palm grip will feel right at home with this mouse. Many people compare it as a compact Deathadder. And I tend to agree, that they share many similarities.

The wireless version is among one of the best, lowest latency wireless mice available on the market. It has the same performance as the excellent G900.

Anyhow, I wish you luck!

That's a sweetspot pricepoint for LOTS of great mice. All have the latest and greatest sensors, just pick one you think would fit your hand and grip best (in no particular order):

• Razer Deathadder Chroma - $60
  
  
• Steelseries Rival - $55
  
  
• Corsair M45 - $55
  
  
• ROCCAT KONE Pure Military - $50
  
  
• Zowie FK1 - $60
  
  
• Zowie EC1-A - $60
  
  If you're willing to go a bit higher, look at these as well:
  
  
• Logitech G502 - $70
  
  
• Mionix Naos 7000 - $65
  
  

You definitely don't want the Razer. Especially after you read the reviews. You should also consider the Logitech G602.

The 602 is more comfortable for me as I can't stand the ring finger rest on MMO mice. The 602 can also use 1 or 2 AA batteries for weight purposes which lasts for months. Further, the 602 has several extra buttons up top, one of which can be used as a shift button to turn those 6 side buttons into 12.

The 600 has a shift button on the ring finger rest which can turn the 12 side buttons into 24 if you need that many. Also, alot of people have said that the mouse wheel fails too soon in the 600. There are better alternatives:

The top-rated UtechSmart Venus: https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-Mouse-UtechSmart-Venus-Precision/dp/B00FNKMVUO

The Redragon Perdition: https://www.amazon.com/Perdition-Redragon-High-Precision-Computer-Programmable/dp/B00GU8W5AE

The Havit MMO mouse: https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A

Those are some more options besides the G600. Redragon has excellent reviews. All the mice I've listed above have excellent reviews. All you have to do is choose. :)

Games: FPS

Hand Preference: Right

Budget: Any

Hand Size: 18cm long by 9cm wide

Grip: Claw

Weight: Light

Sensitivity: Low

Additional Details: I am specifically looking for something to replace my favorite mice of all time, the Logitech LX3 and LX7. Both of them have the same shape, but the LX7 is wireless. Neither have been produced in about ten years, and I can't seem to find anything with a comparable shape. They have a distinctive "hourglass" shape with a deep "ledge" on the bottom, so I can easily pick up the mouse with just three fingers. I have never used another mouse as comfortable as this. I've tried a number of other mice that don't do it for me, including the [Logitech G502](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019OB663A/), G300s, and M510.

I mostly play FPS games, and I'm simply looking for a modern mouse with a similar shape. Until I do find one I may have to keep finding used LX3's on ebay. I'm hoping someone else has found something like it.

Honestly the shape of the GPW wasn't the best for me. I really like right hand sided ergonomic mice rather than ambidextrous ones. Is there not a wireless equivalent to the EC2-A? Just ordered some of this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ATH0KEA/
Is that good for mice? Thanks for your help

games: none - mainly for web browsing

hand preference: right

budget: $40usd

hand size: 18cm

grip: palm? anything else tires out my wrist for some reason - is that weird?

weight: medium to heavy

sensitivity: low

additional details: i really like my m510 wireless, so i'd prefer something that size, but wired. not a fan of the transformers look a lot of new "gaming" mice have - the simpler the design the better, but would prefer the forward and back buttons on the side. also, i just got an rgb mechanical keyboard, so an rgb mouse is required.

looking forward to some recommendations - thanks r/mousereview!

*edit: ended up ordering the nixeus revel from amazon. thanks guys!

Some mods you could do are:

• Paracord (from CeeSA or Paraflex Cables): ~€25
  
• Aftermarket feet (Hyperglides, Hotline or Corepadz): ~€10
  
• Grip tape: ~€10
  
  Just some additional info:
  
  
• Prices in Euro for consistency
  
• Paraflex Cables are US only
  
• Most people agree Hyperglides are the best quality, but are more expensive than hotline and Corepadz
  
• Some people also say that Hotline/Corepadz are worse than stock but it seems to depend on the mouse
  
• The most popular grip tape on this subreddit is GT-500 but there would be alternatives
  
• You could put grip tape on the mouse, on the grips or replace the grips. Example 1 Example 2
  
  Personally, I have a Paracord from CeeSA and it's amazing, definitely worth it.

Just checked the internals; the mod is certainly feasible. Imgur album with extra info for anyone interested.

I'll be using this grip tape from amazon, unless anyone has better suggestions.

The Scimitar really does feel amazing though. I'm also looking forward to it being slightly thinner to grip and even slightly lighter in addition to the extra sense of security of having a sturdy side grip to press on.

Finding a mouse at that price point with a flawless sensor is kind of tricky. The EVGA x3 or x5 is very competitively priced at this moment, but it is a little smaller and more shaped like an abyssus. The Havit 1200 has a "flawless" sensor, but I have not used this exact model so I can't speak of the sensor implementation and build quality, and the same can be said of the Talentech Shadow2 & GranVela M639. But, in all honesty those are chinese OEM mice so they might not be worthwhile. My vote is the Evga x3 or the x5, the size isn't that bad just be sure to not accidentally purchase the L (laser) options.


So to answer your question, I don't see any decent mice with that exact shape for that price. Ergonomics, "Flawless" Sensor, Under $30; choose two.


That being said I've seen the deathadder on sale for a little over $30 recently. Even a newegg retailer has one currently listed at $40, Amazon has one for $45, and I've seen them on sale at my local walmart & local Target for around $35.

The Fenek standard has a similar shape/config with the addition of thumb buttons and a sniper button. It is a bit pricey relative to similar mice, but it is in the neighborhood for what you seem to be after and it's a small company that I think more folks should know about.

https://www.amazon.com/Standard-Gaming-PC-Mac-Linux-Unix/dp/B0776J7H5P/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1520572308&sr=1-1&keywords=Fenek+Standard

The first mouse that came to mind is the Nixeus Revel. It is a proper jump to the modern with a perfect sensor, safe shape and a very nice price tag for what you get.

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Windows-Rubberized/dp/B01HHGHCH8

I have this mouse and I really really love it. Not sure why it has bad reviews. If I remember right it was like $15-20 dollars> It's a workhorse. I keep all the weights in as I love a heavy mouse.

I just ordered the amazon basics mouse. Its actually pretty close to size and layout. the thumb buttons aren't really the same at all. They are located in the same spot but hey are much lower profile.

Here is the new Anker. And here is the amazon mouse.

Last night I ordered a G303 Prodigy as they are only $30 right now. It'll be the only mouse I've ever owned that is supposed to be good. So we will see.

Nice to see someone who has even heard of that anker mouse!

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EDIT: It actually cost me 39.99 (the anker)

The 520 says its made for claw and the 530 for palm but I have a slight claw grip and I still liked the 530 better. If you do get it though, make sure to get something like this to put on the sides of the mouse: https://www.amazon.com/TALON-998R-Grips-Rubber-Black-7-Inch/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1511975978&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=talon+grip

Will the Master Mouse L, MM520 and MM530 receive the same treatment? Would love to see someone implement this approach with large and/or ergo mice. Also have you considered ceramic feet like Lexip Mo42 or Metal feet like Hori Edge 101 or the Bloody Gaming Mice series. They don't wear and maintain their glide mutch better over time.

Cooler Master SGM-4006-KFOA1 MasterMouse Pro L Gaming Mouse with Customizable Top Covers and RGB for Multiple Lighting Effects https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KHFB2AY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fim7Cb07KCE1X

Ceramic mouse pads Mo42 Lexip - Compatible laser and optical mouse https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MW5XJ8G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_wkm7Cb11QQ4GF

Video showing various types of feet metal, ceramic, ptfe, stock
https://youtu.be/z9SZU505yfQ

that's great to hear. i'll wait then. well I was looking on amazon and since it was no longer in stock, the only ones available that were (new) from other sellers were $65-99.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01HHH74K2/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

i saw some on ebay for $55ish dollars but i'd rather buy it directly at a better price.(this is specifically the glossy edition which I think the white looks so cool!)

thanks for the response! i'm really looking forward to trying out the mouse as it looks perfect for me in terms of specs and aesthetics

Games: Fortnite (mostly), PUBG, Overwatch

Hand Preference: Right

Budget: Preferably not more than $50

Hand Size: 17.5 by 9.5

Grip: Slightly less extreme claw

Weight: No preference I guess

Sensitivity: Medium - High

Additional Details: I've been looking at the Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum mostly and wanted to know if my hand and grip style would fit. I would appreciate any other suggestions as well. Thanks :)

Well I personally haven't tried the normal version of the EC2-B but I wouldn't count on it as beeing grippy. I would recommend buying some Lizard Skin 0.5mm (Amazon DE) along with it. But the mouse has got a really nice shape apart from Zowies inconistent black coatings. My hand is 18.5x9.5cm and the EC2-B (Divina edition) is currently my main mouse alongside the KPOE. If you're looking for something similar with stock rubber sides then take a look at the Logitech G403.

I play lots of games, but BF3 is the only one that requires most from my mouse/ keyboard. The one you linked sounds great, but the price goes way higher than I thought it would be and I prefer how deathhader/ other mice looks. I have some razer stuff and didn't get any problem at all, they work great. Guess Ill stick with deathhader, but now my problem is there are so many lol. Is there any big difference from Chroma to Default one aside from multi color leds? If chroma works better I may get it, but probaly won't use the "chroma".

whats your price range? Your honestly not going to get anything worth buying under like 40$. https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Essentials-Ergonomic-Comfortable/dp/B00AAS888S/ref=sr_1_13?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1474111798&sr=1-13&keywords=gaming+mice

razer deathadder is probably your best bet, cheap and its one of the most widely used mice so you really cant go wrong

Also, dont buy from the amazon link you have provided, it's a older version. Here's the link - http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Ergonomic/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462849758&sr=8-1&keywords=razer+deathadder

Would recommend best buy, you can also try the shape in best buy stores.

Mionix NAOS 7000 would be a great choice if you like large mice.

http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY

Absolutely love mine, so comfy. Biggest mouse ever.

I just ordered myself a G502. My G9x is -still- working however.

It's on sale for 60$ on Amazon right now.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019OB663A/ref=pd_luc_rh_wl_01_02_t_img_lh?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

My G9x still works good, earlier this year I replaced the feet...but I bought this one in 2009 and wanted to try something "new", this was a good price, and I got 10$ due to Prime Day Promotion, so 50$.

I ended up buying it after watching Linus's video on it, and said he was thinking of replacing HIS G9x with it, though it's not marketed as a G9x successor, he felt it was, and googling shows many do.

It's not good for the Claw Grip(FPS), but I'm willing to give it a shot myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl25wpMoEtY

Though I have heard alot of people saying the M45 by Corsair is like the G9x.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Raptor-M45-5000-Optical-Sensor/dp/B00IDWFN4U

Certainly similar.

I dunno, I like Logitech though, and every review claims the Logitech G502 has an INCREDIBLE Optical sensor, the best in the HISTORY of Mice, not just marketing speak, but people doing workroom tests say this mouse has NO Acceleration, no dead zone, and handles lift-off better than any they've even seen. So I am willing to give it a shot for sure.

I got a G700s a few years ago from Logitech as a replacement for a G9x that was having issues. It was big and felt nice, but the cord was stuff and hard to manage, even with buying custom ones, and in the end I went back to my G9x after a few months. So basically I've been using a G9x as my mouse since 2009. I think...it's time for something new.

Hell, I saw even used G9x sell on eBay for 70$! And I have mine replaced with new feet and all the accessories, so if I end up liking the G502...I might go that route...though parting with my G9x...I don't know.

Is it this one? As it's little more than my budget.. i can still get it ! But is it good?

Nixeus REVEL Gaming Mouse - PixArt PMW 3360 Sensor with 8 Preset DPI Light-weight and Superior Tracking for Win Mac - White Black https://www.amazon.in/dp/B01HHGHCH8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_FRe-ybWPNF4MQ

You might want to look into the Logitech G303. It fits into your budget, it's a good "small hand" mouse, clicks are really nice, performs really well, and Logitech are known for making workhorse mice.

Since, you said you liked larger mice, I would recommend the Razer Deathadder. And no, not because its Razer, simply because its HUGE! Like I mean, its giant. At least to me. I have small hands. If it helps any my hands can't even touch the ends and i have 15-16 cm hands.

Hi /r/MouseReview !

I need your suggestion on new mouse for me, here are the details :

• Games : Mostly for work/productivity, Civilization series (V and VI), Divinity Original Sin (EE and 2), Dota 2, Skyrim.
  
• Preferred hand : Right-handed, Ambidextrous if possible
  
• Budget : £30 or less (Manchester, UK), can stretch for a bit if there's no better option below 30.
  
• Hand Size : around 18-19 centimetres
  
• Grip type : Fingertip Grip
  
• Weight Preference : at least weighs around Kinzu V2 Pro, or heavier
  
• DPI Preference : High (I use 3200DPI on Kinzu V2 Pro)
  
• Cable Type : Braided if possible, Cable length don't care
  
• LED Lighting : Any, I don't care about it
  
• Mouse Buttons : 4 (Right & Left click, Mid mouse button/wheel, DPI settings) to 6 (2 extra for browsing navigation), doesn't have to be programmable buttons.
  
• Other details : below
  
  My first gaming mouse was a Steelseries Kinzu V2 Pro. I have no complaints with this mouse, but the wheel scroll is broken and it really hampers my productivity. I would like a mouse that has extra buttons for website navigation. Another Steelseries brand would be preferable since I will be using this mouse with my MSI GL62-6QF Laptop (it has a Steelseries keyboard built in)
  
  Any suggestions are welcome! Thank you! :)
  
  Current Suggestions :
  
  

• Nixeus Revel
  
• DM 1 Pro S
  
  Edit : any comments about TteSports Talon Blu?

Specific , yes. 0.5mm
Here is the link : amazon

Pretty sure you can find it on amazon US as well.

Comes in white , purple , mixed colors , etc.

Check out the Mionix Naos 7000. I use this for my daily driver at work due to it's incredible ergonomics and feel. It has the shape you're looking for without being too heavy, along with the 3310 sensor and awesome software - which is also great. Sells on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY

Gun Grip works great and is pretty cheap. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_WhnVBbBFE90CY

If you don’t mind a rougher texture fingerboard / skateboard grip tape is awesome but can tear your hands up over time if you move your hand position a lot.

There is also a foam version for fingerboards “Tech Decks” that Ive been meaning to try. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AW3ZRF8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_RknVBbC6P81AG

i actually think the g502 spectrum is better and many people will agree.
link to the mouse
(considred one of the best ever)
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Spectrum-Tunable-Gaming/dp/B019OB663A/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1500230464&sr=1-1&keywords=g502

I share a link earlier. It works good.
GT-5000 (3 strips) Grip Tape for cell phones, cameras

Added: I try many things before, picture below was Sugru with some handmade texture. But they feel like not rubber enough to get a good grip Imgur

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The closest thing I can think of is the Corsair M95 that has 9 side buttons (an A9800 sensor), an identical looking Corsair M90, and I'm pretty sure you know about the G600. The Corsair mice here don't look exactly like your Naga numpad though. If you don't mind a wireless heavy mouse the G602 is the closest thing I can think of that has a lot of buttons on the side that's within the list of "accepted" mouse sensors in case you actually care about that.

Disregard the above if you're not looking for mouse button's galore. It slipped my mind that you were looking for a vertical ergonomic mouse rather than an ergonomic mouse with a naga style numpad. If we're getting into that territory I suppose a drawing tablet would also work out but I wouldn't be so sure if that's a better path due to posture issues and repetitive motion risk possible from that (edit: and the lack of buttons as far as I'm aware of). Upon searching on my own though (and I bet you have already) the most mouse buttons I can find at all would be a bare bones vertical mouse that has a DPI switch. I can't find any information if that can be rebinded to another function though.

Regarding your wrist/arm issues though you probably should talk to a doctor. There are ways to see first of all if there is a problem and where it is (nerve conduction test aka EMG). Personally when I had a struggle with a different arm/wrist issue that wasn't carpal tunnel syndrome that actually affected my hand's ability to function by quite a bit, the most helpful thing by far for me was spending some time, effort, and money in actually fixing my computer station. In my case at least it all had to do with the chair and once I was able to find a chair that worked and what was wrong with the old set up my arm/wrist issues gradually disappeared and most importantly the numbness disappeared, strength returned to my fingers, the pain (which wasn't really the main issue) disappeared completely, and some flexibility returned to my hand. I'm not exactly "cured," but at least I can properly move my fingers again.

The problem with my computer set up was that arms of my chair were were too high, they were too far away from my body, and were too long so they got in the way of using the computer properly. In other the words the chair was way too large for me. If you have a chair that has arms, my best suggestion is that you evaluate your chair especially. Your problem probably isn't mine at all, but honestly out of everything I was told to do by doctors, changing my computer chair was quite literally 97% of what fixed my problems. If you care even just a little bit I can tell you what guidelines used to fix my computer setup and most importantly pick the correct chair.

Regardless you should still see a doctor if you're really suffering. I got pretty lucky that the only things I needed were independent of medicine or surgery but you might not be.

Build quality wise, its okay. Its made of a rough ABS plastic that feels like sand paper, it feels "gritty."

Sensor wise, all these mice suck. They all use laser sensors which have various issues such as not being able to track small movements and horrible lift off distance. The Naga Trinity has a top optical sensor but the Trinity will set you back around $100.

I would recommend the Havit MMO Mouse https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1526089127&sr=8-3&keywords=Havit+MMO+mouse

or the Corsair Scimitar https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-SCIMITAR-Pro-RGB-Programmable/dp/B01MU3DZ2V/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526089118&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+scimitar

Both have top optical sensors based on the Pixart 3360, a Logitech G502 class sensor.

Buy this if you have amazon prime or buy this both have top of the line sensors that will be sufficient for minecraft, if you're looking for comfort, go for the g403, however if you want to save a little bit more money, buy the g203

if you really don't want to go over $35 then definitely take the g302, if you can sped a few more you could go for the g303, which is $40 and has the same shape as the g302 but better sensor. some people also have problems with the g302 "wobbling" because it has no mouse feet on the sides of the mouse
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TKFD51M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610023&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=logitech+g303&dpPl=1&dpID=314UDpL3BCL&ref=plSrch
you could also look at the logitech g203, also$40 it has a rounder shape than the g302 and is probably a safer choice than the g302 unless you know you are comfortable with the shape.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M26YUKO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610539&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=logitech+g203&dpPl=1&dpID=319KAiGobEL&ref=plSrch

G600 is going for $25 on Amazon right now

Compared to this generic mouse for $33 which would be better?

I'd like to keep the 1-2 month shipping time for the G600 in mind as well.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zowie-FK1-Mouse-Mac-2-ways/dp/B00LHRTO5W/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1420937848&sr=1-1&keywords=zowie+fk1

This is one of the lightest mice out there, it has a flawless sensor and it feels great to palm or claw.

Not sure about the two you listed, but claw with RGB and a hella good sensor sounds like the Logitech G303

https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M

Kinda expensive though.

So far I have owned two of them (ones LMB broke off). They are good mice for the price but they have a kind of odd small shape, and i haven't noticed anything bad about the sensor and it tracks nearly as good as my model o. I've had some trouble with the recent software just not working at all, so I've just downgraded to a different version of ICUE to fix that . But the G302 seems like a better deal and just looks better imo.

the top sensor is the PMW3360 and its variants (3361 / owl-eye / 3366 / 3389 / truemove3, etc)

If you want an MMO layout, you could take a look at:

• the new razer naga
  
• the haavit HV-MS735 which is really really cheap
  
• the rival 500 interesting layout
  
• the corsair scimitar pro rgb
  
• the roccat leadr if you want wireless and also want to stay with roccat, it also has an interesting layout
  
  

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1521917080&sr=8-2&keywords=g403+wired

The G403 Wired is currently 46.76 on Amazon, I suggest buying it. I've previously used the mouse for 3 months before switching to something smaller (smaller hand), but the shape, sensor, and weight were great.

Hmm, these days, most non-gaming mice have been going wireless, so cheaper wired mce are hard to find, especially one with extra buttons. The Microsoft Comfort mouse is really one of the few choices that are affordable.

The Logitech M500 is one of the closest to your criteria, though it does not have a perfectly symmetrical shape, and is catered to right-handed users.

There are many wireless choices out there that you could easily find, and I reccommend getting those if you really do not want Microsoft Comfort Mice.

However, if you're really looking for high-quality mice under $40, you'll have to go gaming-grade. The Logitech G300S is about $30, and is truly ambidextrous. However, the button placement could be found uncomfortable for some people. Also has way more buttons than what you want.

The other gaming-grade choice is the G302, which has buttons on the right, despite being symmetrical.

EDIT: Found THIS and THIS. I wouldn't put too much trust in these though, you never know if they may have build quality issues.

Awesome! Just to be sure, these are the mouse feet you used?

https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-mouse-pads-Lexip-PC-Mac/dp/B07MW5XJ8G

Sure! I sweat a lot as well, this tape is some pistol grip tape. I tried artisan tape, but it became really moist and clammy after heavy use GT-5000 (3 strips) Grip Tape for... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ATH0KEA?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
No residue! its great

What grip do you use? Im concerned about the height of the Revel since I'd not want to rest my palm on it. Also I guess I would get the rubberized version because I get sweaty hands when I play and that version is almost 50€ with delivery fees Nixeus Revel :S Not sure if that would be my best bet in that price range

No comment on any of the 3 as I haven't owned any of them, and can find very little information on them. In the same price range the G102/G203 depending on region is a solid buy, and for $10 more than the A90 you can get yourself into a G305 which is the wireless brother of the G102/G203/GPro. You can also look into the 403 wired if you would rather have an ergo mouse.

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878272&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878272&s=gateway&sr=8-6

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Both of the above are tried and true price to performance powerhouses.

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and the G305 below is likely one of the top 3 recommended mice on this sub reddit.

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-LIGHTSPEED-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07CMS5Q6P/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878403&s=gateway&sr=8-5

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If budget is the main issue buy the 102/203 it wont let you down and is priced similar or lower to the ones you mentioned, if it isn't then I would look at better options than the 3 you mentioned and would still keep the little logitech in mind.

Thanks for the heads up!

FYI it's also $50 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Prodigy-Gaming-Performance-Sensor/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496265631&sr=8-1&keywords=g403

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Mouse-Windows/dp/B01HHGHCH8

This one's pretty good!

I didn't get the term 'eSports' at first, turns out it's what being marketed even on Amazon.

There are several iterations of Deathadder. They are usually classified as (old) Deathadder 3 & 3.5G, Deathadder 2013/4G, Deathadder chroma and Deathadder Elite.

 

The eSports essential DA looks like the DA 2013 since both are advertised as having a 6400 dpi 4G sensor as known as PMW 3988. The Esports DA should be the Deathadder Elite. It has the PMW 3389, which is a variant of the most recent optical sensor, the PMW 3360. Razer also added a pair of CPI buttons on the top of the shell. Some reported that the coating was also improved on the DA Elite.

For your information, the DA Chroma has the PMW3989 sensor which is also very much enough for intense gaming.

 

The biggest drawback of the DA Elite in comparison to its former iterations is the lack of adequate onboard memory. You can't store personal cpi settings on it while it's viable on both the DA Chroma and DA 2013. That said, your settings are only tuned and saved through Razer Synapse, a software that is kind of notorious for buggy. You also have to keep it running all the time.

I didn't have any bad experience with both their hardware and software though.

G203 is $24 on Amazon right now. Great deal.

Also, the G302 is available for $17.

Is this price legit? Or is it like a weird amazon glitch or 3rd Party scammer?
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Logitech+G303&qid=1558804111&s=electronics&sr=1-2

Never Sharkoon. The Logitech is good, though.

G402 seems to be just a couple dollars over $35, which would be even better:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Hyperion-Gaming-Fusion-910-004069/dp/B00LZVNWIA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1484600942&sr=8-7&keywords=logitech+g100

Can also get G303 (better version of the G302) for $40ish:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1484601088&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g303

302 for 25$. Really good mouse, not really palm grip but better than anything in the price range... 20 is too little. Newegg has refurbished mice for that much, can get a roccat or razer abyssus refurb...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OHJY7C2/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1473049718&sr=1-5&refinements=p_36%3A515384011%2Cp_89%3ASteelSeries%7CRazer%7CLogitech%7CCorsair&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Gaming+mouse&dpPl=1&dpID=41wbDth2usL&ref=plSrch

Yeah, pretty much the only thing you'll be using there is the DPI settings, LED settings, and the profile settings. There's also the surface calibration settings. I've used it and it doesn't really help; I've read that it just adjusts the lift-off distance. I think the price for the DeathAdder has dropped, which may help.

Edit: I saw your comment stating your budget. The price for the DeathAdder has went down to $52.

p.s. I feel like a broken tape recorder saying "DeathAdder" so many times.

If you want a good and cheap mouse.

I recommend this Logitech G203

https://www.amazon.com/G203-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511759267&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g+203

Another good mouse cheap but ergonomic is this but maybe BIG for you. Is a large mouse

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511759224&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g403

So my recommendations G203, Mx anywhere 2s, G403 is the big is not a problem or MAYBE cougar minos x5

Like this one:

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.0 out of 5 starsLeft and right clicks. NO GO

August 24, 2019

Color: Black

Aesthetically the mouse is very pleasing to look at, where they put the RGB on the mouse looks amazing. Big downfall of this mouse was the left and right clicks. They do not feel solid, the buttons feel loose and flimsy. It feels like to much play in a way. So if you’re competitive I’d steer away from it. I bought it from their actual website. If you purchase it get it through amazon, the return policy on the website is non existent and if you purchase you can not send back unless defected"

Just recently having to deal with what sounds like the same issue with Model O- this is extremely off-putting. The other reviews speak of side-wall flex, left-side button failure, and scroll wheel not feeling great / failing.

I think I'm just going with GPWL, tired of gambling with these new start-up mouse brands / models.

I suggest the Logitech G602, works perfectly for palm grip. It is $43 on amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00E4MQODC/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1449461110&sr=8-1&keywords=Logitech+g602&condition=new

Nixeus Revel - it has the PMW3360, one of the best optical sensors that many competing mice sport at much higher prices. Can't go wrong with this one.

the redragon mouse has really rough texture and an OFFICE sensor.

Hand size?

Check out Rocket Jump Ninja's reviews

I personally recommend the Nixeus Revel.https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Light-weight/dp/B01HHH74K2

for mmos it is better to go with something like this naga, g600, scimitar.

they have a lot of buttons on the side so you can have all the mmo abilities at your thumb disposal (from those three Naga is the smallest).

the g303 is a fps mouse designed more for precision



cons ( these are depending on your luck)

g 303 may have a [rattle sensor] (https://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-G-Mice/G303-rattle-lens-issue/td-p/1428060) i have one and it does have a rattle problem

naga
razer products depend on your luck. i had 2 nagas. the first one i kept for 4 years with no problems at all until i step on it and the second one lasted for 6 months and i send it back. double clicking problems on lmb and the wheel started to fall apart.

g600 is really big. it is very well build and looks like it's gonna last (i have it for 6 month now?! i dont remember) but it is solid. also a bit heavy.

i dont know anything about corsair mice in general

Logitech G403 is now $35 bucks on amazon. Doesn't meet the weight requirement but it is a good mouse. https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=g403&qid=1563434274&s=electronics&sr=1-2

I have it’s ok but didn’t really help much with sweaty hands IMO ... I mean if you’re gonna be spending that much money anyway you should just go ahead and get Lizard Skins grip or some of sort of DSP material grip tape

Lizard Skins .5mm Hockey Grip (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NH9P8BA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_XIstDbTHSK204

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Light-weight/dp/B01HHGHCH8

pair it with something like a Logitech G640 or QCK+ and you should be good to go

https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00ATH0KEA

I use this one my ec2a and it works like a charm

The Logitech G303 is great and is only $31 dollars. Link is below.

Logitech G303 - Amazon

I really enjoy this mouse, and bought it for the same purpose as you. It's on sale as well, I purchased it for $60 but its going for $35 now.

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4

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Side note: I don't use palm grip, and know nothing about hand sizes/mouse fit

Try this.

Best sensor on the market, not certain of its weight, though.

I haven't used it but this stuff looks good

https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00ATH0KEA#customerReviews

Look at the reviews to see a few mice that people used it on.

> I unusually leverage the thickness of the back of the mouse with my pinky and thumbs for precise slight adjustments

I read your other comment, would you say that your grip is a fingertip grip? If so, I actually use the same grip and I personally found ergo mice really uncomfortable. I had a rival 300, and I realized a while after that I wanted the complete opposite in mouse. So I got the gpro, a small light ambi mouse that's perfect for fingertip. The g203 is practically the same thing and stupid cheap for how good it is.

https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A

Better buttons, top of the line sensor. More ergonomic shape.

https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-mouse-pads-Mo42-Lexip-Compatible/dp/B07MW5XJ8G bought these works perfect on logitech g pro


https://gyazo.com/7dbb7909293b4c20a0e90c490e1ef2c3

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they're slighty thicker than the corepads i have on so i didn't need to remove them, using a hardpard.


inlove with them really would say that they have almost double the glide of corepad.

Hi Peter, thank you for the clarification. I notice that the model number for the black Revel on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Windows-Rubberized/dp/B01HHGHCH8) is still REV-BK16. Is this information out of date, should the newest revision black Revel be REV-BK17?

You would be better off going with something like a Nixeus Revel, that reddragon isn't great.

The white one is on sale for $40 right now.

Broken? Must look that way because of how shiny they are. Their great skates for the G305. I think I would only recommend them on hard pads though.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07MW5XJ8G/ref=ppx_yo_mob_b_track_package_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

if you want the glidiest mouse feet on the market get these:


https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-mouse-pads-Lexip-PC-Mac/dp/B07MW5XJ8G


they can be put on almost any mouse, you don't need to put them where your mouse normally has grooves for it. they technically should last forever, unlike ptfe feet, while having the smoothest performance out there. but most ppl think it's too smooth, but you never know if you'll like it until you try it.

Logitech has their MMO mouse for just under $60:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G600-Gaming-Mouse-Black/dp/B0086UK7IQ

SteelSeries has their MMO mouse for much less [as long as you don't mind the stupid design]:
http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-World-Warcraft-Legendary-Gaming/dp/B005L38QHA/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416630117&sr=1-15&keywords=razer+naga

and Amazon has the newest Naga for a couple dollars over your budget:
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Naga-2014-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00E8CF268/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416630117&sr=1-1&keywords=razer+naga

All three are solid.

I actually have an Abyssus V2 that I took down to 68g by removing the 10g weight that is screwed on inside and replacing the rubber side grips (which weigh another 3-4g) with this material, which grips better and is far lighter.

Definitely worth doing.

not sure if I can post link... but it is also available on .CA

https://www.amazon.ca/G-Wolves-Skoll-SK-L3360-Wired-Gaming/dp/B07W3GDCFV/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=g+skoll&qid=1566634901&s=gateway&sr=8-2

ordered myself one - excited to compare it against my model o

This is the tape I used. It was the only one I found that shipped to germany =) https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-Strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00C7WXTJS

I think I'm going to try avoid the big name brands this time (Razer, Logitech and Steelseries) although I think I could make do with the G403.

I'm going to experiment a bit with a different shape and I like the looks of these mice as they come with the new 3360 switch, which would you recommend from them or would you know that are similar?

Niexeus Revel

Mionix Avior

For the DA I like to use 2 layers of gun grip rather than lizard skins.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C7WXTJS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These grips are more robust and will not move or need to be replaced any time soon.

• Black & Dark Grey Skoll https://camelcamelcamel.com/G-Wolves-Skoll-SK-L3360-Wired-Gaming/product/B07W3GDCFV?context=search 75 - 65- 69
  
• White Skoll: https://camelcamelcamel.com/G-Wolves-Skoll-SK-L3360-Wired-Gaming/product/B07W1FZRYH?context=search
  
• Black & Dark Grey: https://camelcamelcamel.com/G-Wolves-Ultra-Lightweight-Honeycomb-Gaming/product/B07XNXGHFQ?context=search 74.99 at the start, 74.99 now.
  
• Red Hati : https://camelcamelcamel.com/G-Wolves-Ultra-Lightweight-Honeycomb-Gaming/product/B07XP3V22S?context=search 79.99, never changed
  
  Just a quick reminder that G-Wolves is not produced by us, nor we dictate prices nor we have control over QC.
  
  Would you prefer to see a "HK Gaming" mouse with a similar shape which retail for $50-60 on amazon ?

Dream Machine DM1

Nixeus Revel

Cougar 450M

Personally, I prefer Cougar because it has 2 buttons on both sides like the Sensei.

https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-Strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00C7WXTJS

Here you go :)

Okay i have ordered cermaic ones from amazon. Mo 42 Lexip
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MW5XJ8G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I won't have to "break in" these ones..

Thats not a hand size or a grip style (I literally gave you links to what they are), but on that tight of a budget you kind of just take what you can get anyways. I'll recommend a rival 110 or a G203

https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517589273&sr=1-1&keywords=pmw3360

this one might be a lot better than either of those, and cheap-ish too.

Get some of this to use on it man. It would look much better than the wood grain

Thank you very much here is a picture.
If you want some i got mine from here. (Beware they may not work with all mice due to hight.)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lizard-Skins-Durasoft-Polymer-Hockey/dp/B01NH9P8BA

Pretty much the sports thingy. Link are 0.5mm hockey but u have more options like Bar tape and so. U need to cut them for yourself.

The Mionix Naos 7000 has an almost legendarily good build quality and it uses one of the better optical sensors out there. I just ordered one after much research and consideration. I really like ergo mice though (had a Steelseries Ikari Laser when those were top of the line, but the middle mouse button breaks, then had a Steelseries Na'Vi edition sensei, again middle mouse button breaks and the build quality is pretty low, makes noise when I lift it, I'm done with Steelseries they make crap now).

http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKQ6VY

If you don't do palm grip though you might not like this, really depends on your grip.

Thanks! It's GT5000 gun grip tape found it on Amazon, for me it's too slippery to be used on the sides. I've been thinking to try lizard skins or the Hotline Grips.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ATH0KEA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EuwoDbX8Q55B3

Thanks, I was unaware as I have just recently seen those. This is what I usually use, https://www.amazon.com/TALON-998R-Grips-Rubber-Black-7-Inch/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=talon+grips&qid=1565646549&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/TALON-998R-Grips-Rubber-Black-7-Inch/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510877714&sr=8-1&keywords=rubber+talon+grip

get rubber for a softer feel or granulate for something a little more rough (you can sand it out with 120g sandpaper if it's too rough, just make sure you do this before you put it on).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Rubberized/dp/B01HHGHCH8

they are supposed to be updated and fixed etc right? just ordered :-)

Will grip tape like this or this stick to a matte model O? I assume it will but with the honeycomb shell thought I'd ask before ordering

I second the Mionix Naos. It seems to have tons of customization and good software and a very ergonomic design. Plus it's on sale http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HGKQ6VY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1406858719&sr=8-1

I personally have the Steel series rival after having the DA 2013 and couldn't be happier

With this tape vs the stock plastic and this gun tape, I don't have to grip the mouse nearly as hard and it isn't slippery at all. I highly recommend it.

The GT-5000 stuff is okay but... well... yeah, it's just okay. Kinda helps I guess but it's still kind of slippery and the texture is weird. This may just be personal preference though.

The G602 is only 34.47USD which SHOULD be well below 50 euros

G502 Spectrum and Core on sale as well:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Proteus-Spectrum-Tunable-Gaming/dp/B019OB663A/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480026739&sr=1-1&keywords=g502

My friend bought a Revel from massdrop and the import costs for EU were 35+ euros making the mouse almost 80 euros total, if you really want a Revel in EU check out amazon , only problem is that they dont ship to every EU country (not to The Netherlands for me)

I got it on amazon germany. Thats the link not sure it it might be of any help but there you go. They also have different colors and camo designs.


Lizard Skins 0,5 mm DSP Dura weichem Polymer Camouflage Hockeyschläger Grip Tape, schwarz 99 cm https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01NH9P8BA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ie.IDbQVKMGY9

you heard wrong. I said:

> the new fk1 is still great

and it is. see:

https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Ambidextrous-Optical-Gaming-FK1/product-reviews/B00LHRTO5W/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_srt?sortBy=recent&pageNumber=1

Its 42$ on sale at the moment. Alittle more clean look, many buttons and logitech is a reputable company. Defiantly exist cheaper options out there but i dont know about them. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0086UK7IQ/ref=twister_B0091I20E6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

You could try the G602, it has 11 programmable buttons and a ton of battery life, I use it.

If you really need a lot of buttons you could try an MMO mouse (ex: G600, Razer Naga), or just search for any MMO mouse wherever you want to buy.

Here, take a look at the Wayback machine, you'll see it says "Laser" in the first comparison on the page: https://web.archive.org/web/20160826022232/https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Wireless-Mouse-Battery/dp/B00E4MQODC (says optical lower down though like in your image)

So I'm not crazy, and the line that listed laser is removed now. Anyway

Looks like a Mionix Naos of some sort to my eye but it's white.

I know nothing about this company and/or what you consider copying... but this seems pretty damn close to me.

hiya! I got the gun tape from amazon US. It took like 4-5 days to get to me in Northern Ireland. I ordered it here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATH0KEA/

I'm not sure how it got here so fast :P

The Logitech mouse you linked is just their basic corded office mouse. Nothing special about it. It's not one of their gaming mice.

Either of these would be far superior to what you've looked at so far, for just a few dollars more:

Logitech G302, $25 from Amazon

Steelseries Rival 100, $25 from Wal-Mart, in an odd green/tan color scheme

bruv you can order a brand new one on amazon at cheaper pricing.

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B00MYTSDU4

Update:

I just ordered the G303, it was $23 off on amazon and I couldn't resist. here's the link if anyone else wants to buy it: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1453980898&sr=1-1&keywords=G303

Amazon, Lexip mo42s

https://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-mouse-pads-Mo42-Lexip-Compatible/dp/B07MW5XJ8G

According to Amazon, it'll restock on the 30th :
https://www.amazon.com/G-Wolves-Skoll-SK-L3360-Wired-Gaming/dp/B07W3GDCFV

If you're in the U.S, it's available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W3GDCFV/

Got the $64.99 one, seller is G Wolves on Amazon. Here’s the link.

My favorite mouse at he moment, and my current daily driver. 3360 is what sold me, still getting used to the shape though :/
https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1520301778&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=havit+hv-ms735&psc=1

If you want a larger mouse, it's kind hard to find cheap, large mice that aren't crap. You could get the 2013 DeathAdder or the Rival 300. Neither are exactly cheap, but they're not as expensive as many other high-performing mice.

Obviously you should get the similarly priced logitech g600, easyclap.

Whats the difference between these two DeathAdders?

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Deathadder-Infrared-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B002Q4U5DK



http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Ergonomic-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00AAS888S/ref=sr_1_1?t=slickdeals&tag=slickdeals&ascsubtag=060c4344fb334196bdfd2140558827f4&ie=UTF8&qid=1409692834&sr=8-1&keywords=Razer+DeathAdder+2013