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u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/anonymous

It depends on how seriously you think people are taking Anonymous as a potential threat. If Anonymous as a group really is seen as worth monitoring (and with all the infiltration popping up time and again, how could it not be?) I doubt those doing the strategic legwork give a damn about "free speech".

From everything I've read, these days it's all about preemption. In other words, what better time to gather information on people in a potentially threatening network than BEFORE they go underground? Chances are they want everyone mapped, IDed and pinned down like bugs on a board before any op ever gets off the ground. It makes sense to me.

Just to make sure I wasn't pulling all this out of my ass, I racked my memory and remembered this quote for you from Dr. Sean Everton's 2012 work on tracking, destabilizing, and disrupting dark networks with social network analysis, Disrupting Dark Networks.


>Strategic Options for Disrupting Dark Networks: Tracking and Monitoring

>While it may seem counter-intuitive, sometimes the best strategy may be to do nothing. Well, not exactly nothing, but because information on a particular dark network is often incomplete, rather than taking immediate action, it is sometimes better in the short run to track and monitor certain actors with the hope of improving knowledge of the network, which will in turn improve the selection of strategies adopted down the road. (Arquilla 2008). As John Arquilla notes:

>[...] the key doctrinal approach was to wait and watch for a considerable period, then to swarm the targets at their moment of maximum illumination. This strategic patience grew out of the understanding that striking at nodes as they were identified might actually reduce the ability to detect and track other cells in the networks in question. It is a curious doctrinal point about netwar: the more that is disrupted, the less that is known.

>When using this approach, then, analysts will want to draw on those SNA metrics that help identify the individuals, subgroups, organizations and so on that appear to be worth tracking.


So yeah. You might not be doing anything technically "wrong", but with all the proven infiltration, do you really want to take risks you don't have to? People should take care not to end up like that Australian kid: he didn't do anything of value, but the government sure was motivated to paint it out that way.

In my opinion, staying off the radar as much as possible seems to be a winning move.

u/EwoutDVP · 1 pointr/anonymous

It's not just Zero Hedge that expects the dollar to fall.

Rick Falkvinge: http://falkvinge.net/2011/06/17/the-imminent-dollar-collaps-explained-to-an-8-year-old/

Nassim Taleb: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-02-04/news/28430704_1_treasuries-bond-buying-program-bonds-next-week

Max Keiser: http://rt.com/op-edge/keiser-international-confidence-crumbling-snowden-182/#.UcloP9kuGEs.twitter

These are just a couple of links which I found within two minutes, kind of from the top of my head. I could find a lot more of them if I'd take the time, but I kind of feel like you're not reading any of them anyways - since apparently I'm just 'attributing poverty to a scapegoat'.

Like, seriously, if you're still convinced that the financial cartel is ran by a bunch of nice people who mean the best for the world - I don't know what to say. That honestly, truly, seems like some weird form of the Stockholm complex to me - but I believe I have said that already.

You have read about the Libor schandal, right? You must be aware of the '08 bail-outs - based on fraudulent financial products? And the fact that nobody has gone to jail over that? Like, surely you are familiar with the whole to-big-to-fail and to-big-for-jail concept... You know what, I'm just gonna copy/paste the urls I linked to before, 'cause I really don't know what else to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/joris-luyendijk-banking-blog/2013/jun/20/bankers-predators-proto-fascist-ideology

http://www.economist.com/node/21558281

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174785/HSBC-scandal-Britains-biggest-bank-let-drug-gangs-launder-millions--faces-640million-fine.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/greek-debt-crisis-how-goldman-sachs-helped-greece-to-mask-its-true-debt-a-676634.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/12/bigger-than-barclays-global-regulation

If none of these things - or any other of the many many scandals coming to light almost on a weekly basis now (like this one that surfaced yesterday) are enough to convince you that this isn't all fine and dandy or even incompetence, nothing will.

At some point, you will have to recognize all of this for what it really is: an inherently corrupt system.

I'm not just 'looking for a scapegoat'. In fact, I find that remark kind of insulting - it's obvious you're not taking anything I say seriously - or anything any of the sources I supply for that matter.

I am most certainly not getting lost in some 'echo-chamber'. Yes, I use the internet a lot - obviously. But if the Guardian, der Spiegel, the Economist are all part of some 'echo-chamber'... I... like... whatever.

Besides that, I actually read books on the issue. Currency wars and The Black Swan are very good - I think.

>you're trying to attribute poverty to a scapegoat. It's counterproductive, because the evidence does not support that hypothesis

Yeah, except for all of the evidence that I am supplying.

Sorry, this is kind of turning into a rant by now. Maybe we should just agree to disagree.

u/WhoIsGoat · 2 pointsr/anonymous

This is a common misconception of the groups entirety. Anonymous was not made for the sole purpose of hacking. It was made for fighting against the corrupt and doing the right thinking, helping people when they couldn't help themselves. They are believers in freedom of speech as well as freedom of information. To you point of "joining anonymous", there is not application for join anonymous it is more of an ideology it is something that will never go away as long a people remain associated with it. I can go on and on but if you would like to learn more about anonymous I would recommend reading Gabriella Coleman book (Hacker, Hoaxer, Whistleblower, Spy: The Many Faces of Anonymous). You can find it here https://www.amazon.com/Hacker-Hoaxer-Whistleblower-Spy-Faces/dp/1781689830

As far as hacking goes you can read up on some books, enroll in some classes, or reach out to people (harder than it sounds). Knowledge is power, if you want something you have to be committed.

u/RamonaLittle · 2 pointsr/anonymous

>One interesting way of looking at ourselves is in terms of the groups we are trying to impress.

>We feel responsible for doing and saying those things which receive approval (or disapproval) from a combination of people looking at us, not only those present, but also those out of the past, and possibly those we anticipate in our future.

Mind = blown. I've seen people talk about this on /r/raisedbynarcissists, where their actions are influenced by parents when there's no longer any good reason to be influenced by them, but I hadn't thought about it in a broader sense.

I'll check out the book. The Amazon listing is funny:

> 1 New from $2,432.64 | 29 Used from $1.48

I guess the bots are still at it!

u/King_DickWeed · 3 pointsr/anonymous

I dont see why people just dont get some blank white masks