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> Yea. What else could it be?

Sometimes the term is broadened to include Turks outside Turkey. Just making sure.

> No, they didnt. I was criticizing the mentality here. We couldmt care less if you marry a non-Turk.

I must have missed your sarcasm. I thought you were truly incredulous.

> Kazan was an important please for Turks and then Russians came....
What do you mean "nationalist imaginary"?

What I mean can best be understood by your preceding sentence: nationalism constructs identities and narratives for people and assigns significance to events, locations, and even myths. So, according to you, Kazan was significant for Turks and then the Russians came. If we were talking about Hellenic nationalism, for example, then one would say "Constantinople was an importance place for Greeks and then Turks came…"

> Plus Soviets actively repressed religion. They wanted to make everyone a Russ so they would support intermarriages instead.

That's why I said it was obvious that religion would only be seen as an irrelevant obstacle in the event of a marriage between a Soviet "Christian" and "Muslim." Also, a Soviet desire to wholly Russify its population is, in my opinion, nothing more than Cold War propaganda (and I think it being propaganda has become the accepted view amongst scholars). The creation of a new Soviet (read: not Russian) person without ethnicity was scrapped or at least made a long-term goal because ethnicity and culture proved to be quite resilient and durable. Ali İğmen's Speaking Soviet with an Accent is a case study of Soviet culture clubs in the Kyrgyzstan SSR: the aim was to promote Kyrgyz culture and a "merging of socialism and national community," not Russification (84).

> Also intermarriages are common here in between Turks and Armenians.

I was saying that the religious barrier would have been more of an issue there than in the former Soviet Union, not that intermarriages do not occur–I am sure there are many examples.

Gj undermining your own mission out of an urge of ideological purity.

While you keep masturbating about the "perfect Armenian", I'll keep being inclusive and encouraging more Diasporans to visit and care about Armenia.

In the mean time, I can recommend some reading for you.

Here's my response, they don't seem to allow it there for some reason...

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There were Armenian communities spread from India to Western Europe in late Middle Ages, some got assimilated, some maintained their language and culture to a degree. Most were traders/merchants.

You can read the history of the Polish-Armenian community in [1], which explains the migration wave to Easter Europe in general. These were ultimately the remnants of trading and merchant communities of a large and prosperous capital city of Ani in Armenia [4]. They made it to Crimea after the capital city was sacked in 11th century and Bagratid Armenia was destroyed, then gradually moved both East and West from Crimea to form communities in Poland, Hungary, and Russia.

According to [1] in towns like Kamenets and Lviv (then in Poland, now in Ukraine), Armenians had their "court and sword", meaning they had relatively high autonomy in their jurisdictions and could practice their language, customs, laws, and faith in peace. Casimir the Great of Poland bestowed special privileges on the Armenian community in 1300s, including the right for self-rule and mercantile activity [4].

The communities have been largely assimilated, but a lot of notable Poles and Hungarians can trace their ancestry to these Armenian merchants. Some people still keep the language (derivative of Ani dialect, a pre-standardized Western Armenian with a sprinkling of Turkic and Slavic words).

Here's a video of people speaking this dialect in Russia, telling the story of how they met a Hungarian-Armenian speaking their same dialect [2]. They are literally saying "he didn't speak Armenian, he spoke our tongue, we were shocked." They use the word "gallaji" for their tongue, which I think is a Turkic root and is used by them as "common speech" or "patois", to distinguish from proper, standard Armenian.

Hope this helps...

[1] The Travel Accounts of Simeon of Poland (Armenian Studies Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1568591616/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_0a6NBbCHYM67V

[2] https://youtu.be/aorkueo7plc

[3] https://www.jstor.org/stable/41055916

[4] http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20160309-the-empire-the-world-forgot

> http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0814760325

That is the best book on the subject.

The idea is to have an honest, simple, accessible, easy to understand, few minutes short content showing the Karabakh Armenian side based on facts and recent history.

Can't figure out if Armenian peasant from Macedonia, Macedonian peasant claiming to be Armenian, Macedonian peasant claiming to be Armenian noble, ethnic Macedonian from Armenia (Armenian-Macedonian if you will). What's the deal with this guy?

https://www.amazon.com/Basil-Founder-Macedonian-Dynasty-Political/dp/0773454055/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1465604687&sr=8-2&keywords=basil+i

Not sure if I'm 219$ interested, but would totally love to read this.

I would recommend this: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Business-Dual-Core-i3-8130U-Bluetooth/dp/B07FZZRG2M/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=laptopunderbudget-20&linkId=72724c71b8863fdddb68ec3c3ba1a247&language=en_US&linkCode=w61&imprToken=EqOXFp5p.OkY4QMcv-Vryg&slotNum=4

It has a good processor and enough RAM that she won't have to worry about it slowing down anytime soon. Most laptops in this segment have extremely weak processors and 4GB of RAM and slowdowns are very noticable. 1TB of storage so she won't ever run out of space. Small and compact. Made by Lenovo so it is reliable. Best of all it is sub 400.

Check out this book

https://www.amazon.com/Concise-History-Armenian-People-Ancient/dp/1568591411

It covers everything about Armenia. Its origins, all Armenian kingdoms(which was my favorite part), Armenians in Arab, Persian and Ottoman empires, Soviet Armenia, modern Armenia and so on. This book will be perfect for what you are looking for.

>a history book that details the history of Armenia, from origins to current times hopefully written by a non-Armenian

Why do you say that? There are plenty of books written by Armenian historians in the US, like Hovannisian and Bournoutian, that people wouldn't classify as nationalist works. Don't discount their work just because they're Armenian.

You can learn Western Armenian through the Armenian Virtual College.

I'd also recommend "Passage To Ararat" and "My Brother's Road" as a start.

Ah, my favorite type of posts which let me google stuff and satisfy my needs of internet investigation.

Here is the original article. At first glance nothing is wrong, it is understandable that a Jew might be "mad" over this case and write such an article. Except for the statue was erected last year and a similar article has been posted let's say in a more timely manner.

So what could be the reason that made Rabbi Israel Barouk remembered this and decided to write an article on it. Let's have a look at his previous articles I wonder what other things is he interested in. I'm just kidding I did not read all the articles just opened the other 5 articles pushed Ctrl+F and searched Azerbaijan (4 of them contained the word more than once, twice etc.). You can try yourselves and see the results a couple of sentences from each are enough to get the context.

Shall we continue? Search on Google. Well, you've guessed it at this point the results are predictable. Profile of the guy writing mostly on the same topics here and there. He even wrote a book. But one thing caught my attention an article on Asbarez and this time I read it (You see I just prefer our glorious, detailed and wonderful Ermeni propaganda over yours).
Here is a bit from that article where famous Armenian-Israeli composer William Weinder said something about Barouk.

> My parents and their families endured all the horrors of evacuation, exile and concentration camps. Fortune brought them to Armenia, where I was born and live for 60 years. I am doubly grieved, but, at the same time, I clearly understand, why shameful efforts are exerted in some circles, through false ‘documents,’ analysis, that do not fit any logic, to spread enmity among the world Jewry towards Armenia and the Armenian people. An article by a blogger, calling himself ‘Israel Barouk’ in Times of Israel is yet another naïve attempt. I suppose that Mr. Barouk, who lives in Los-Angeles and publishes peremptory statements in the forms of articles, has never visited Armenia and has no clue about the history of Armenian people and about more than 2000-years-old history of the Jews in this country. However, with a striking perseverance, he demonstrates an ‘in-depth’ knowledge on preferences of the Armenian people and Armenia.

Now let's go back to this statement.

>I suppose it is unsurprising to mention that the Anti-Defamation League found that 1.3 million out of 2.2 million adults in Armenia hold anti-Semitic beliefs, making Armenia the second most anti-Semitic country in Europe.

Of course, it would be ignorant of me to say that there is no anti-Semitism in Armenia and to deny the statement without the facts. If anyone would share trustworthy facts I'd like to read them. But anyways would like to share my search results and opinion on this as well. The ADL claims to have surveyed 4,161,578,905 adult population of different countries. Which sounds a bit suspicious unless they reached people and quickly asked: "Do you hate Jews or no?". But, if you click the "see more" you'll also see the questions. Also, I found it suspicious that an organization called Anzalone Liszt Grove Research did not proudly mention that they were the ones who conducted and coordinated a project which gathered opinions from more than 4 billion people. Anyways enough with this survey topic, whether it is legit or no does not contribute that much to our discussion and it's agenda does not fill in Armenia-Azerbaijan relations. Unless you'd like to use it to point fingers and try to grow tensions between two other nations.

Concerning Barouk. He might be just a guy who is deeply in love with Azerbaijan and believes that:

>Azerbaijan has proven to be a safe and stable community of many cultures, a nation that embraces engagement, inside and out.

But if you're still reading my comment try to push your "Armenians are evil" propaganda using less biased sources.

This is interesting http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0814760325

Because the historical records are spotty and inconsistent. Take the great "Slav migration" historians take a few conflicting Byzantine references and invent a grandiose theory.

R. Kupelian "East of Byzantium"? Graphic novel series.

https://www.amazon.com/War-Gods-East-Byzantium-Vol/dp/0615572065

I found this. The description says it has a setting for Turkish fine grind, which is basically the same. Otherwise Armenian/Middle Eastern markets should have it.

https://www.amazon.com/OROR-Armenian-Lullabies-Little-Angels/dp/B00024NX8K

For the first point, it’s in Harvard geneticist David Reich’s 2018 book “Who We Are And How We Got Here.” https://www.amazon.com/Who-Are-How-Got-Here/dp/110187032X

>From seven thousand until five thousand years ago, we observe a steady influx into the steppe of a population whose ancestors traced their origin to the south-as it bore genetic affinity to ancient and present-day people of Armenia and Iran-eventually crystallizing in the Yamnaya, who were about a one-to-one ratio of ancestry from these two sources. A good guess is that the migration proceeded via the Caucasus isthmus between the Black and Caspian seas.

>Ancient DNA available from this time in Anatolia shows no evidence of steppe ancestry similar to that in the Yamnaya (although the evidence here is circumstantial as no ancient DNA from the Hittites themselves has yet been published). This suggests to me that the most likely location of the population that first spoke an Indo-European language was south of the Caucasus Mountains, perhaps in present-day Iran or Armenia, because ancient DNA from people who lived there matches what we would expect for a source population both for the Yamnaya and for ancient Anatolians. If this scenario is right the population sent one branch up into the steppe-mixing with steppe hunter-gatherers in a one-to-one ratio to become the Yamnaya as described earlier- and another to Anatolia to found the ancestors of people there who spoke languages such as Hittite.

Reich, p. 120

As for your second request (regarding Hurro-Urartians):

https://www.academia.edu/7637643/Arnaud_Fournet_and_Allan_R._Bomhard_-_The_Indo-European_Elements_in_Hurrian_2010_

https://www.academia.edu/40055347/PIE_roots_in_Hurrian

" What advantages does speaking Armenian have? " and " it doesn't mean if you can't speak Armenian you are no longer Armenian"
Then you write
"and for our history to not be forgotten. "
When you start to let something as important as language slip, you can forget about everything else. The Armenian language is as important to the being of Armenian as anything else, it is probably #1 or #2 in that regard.
I've come to learn that Mesrop Mashtots did not invent the alphabet in 406 AD. We are taught that Mashtots invented the alphabet because so much history has been lost and distorted, especially after the introduction of Christianity, invasion after invasion and the Genocide.
If you need a reference for Mashtots not being the inventor of the alphabet, You can read this book by Vahan Setyan or some of the other ones he's written.