Top products from r/elm
We found 2 product mentions on r/elm. We ranked the 2 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 2 product mentions on r/elm. We ranked the 2 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
In some ways, I can sympathize for your frustrations; it doesn't seem like releases happen very quickly. On the other hand, I don't feel the struggle when I'm actually developing in Elm. If the language stayed the same as it is today, I'd still continue to use it for quite a while.
Where I feel there's room for growth is around tooling and libraries. The tools that are out there aren't bad, but (like everything) they can improve and expand. We as a community can start working on this and let Evan continue to deliver the quality he has been at the pace that's been working.
I think the trouble is that Elm competes with JS technologies. Love it or hate it, JS is probably the fastest moving community ever.
Its hard to ignore JS market share, but I don't personally feel its because of the outstanding merits of the language, its because everyone who is involved with frontend web development HAS to touch it at some point or another so there's a lot of effort around improving their experience. I chose to use Elm because its brings sanity to the browser and the predictability of the language.
I think a comparable situation on the backend is Go. Both Elm and Go are engineered languages (versus languages that evolve as needs change). Even now, the book recommended to most beginner is The Go Programming Language, which was published in October of 2015. Find a JS book published two and a half years ago that's still the #1 recommend book for people to learn the language.
I'm sure this relates a lot to my personality type, but I use both Elm and Go because of the consistency. Elm programming at one job is VERY similar to Elm programming at another job. JS programming at one job may be a completely difference experience than you'll find at another job (or even another team within the same company).
I view the price of consistency and good design is slower release cycles.
All that said, I don't blame you semorg, you seem genuinely interested in helping, not just complaining. Your post has me thinking of things I can do to help the community out with adoption. I'll let that idea simmer a bit and try to think of what I can do too.
If you were to divulge more speculative information about 0.19 I'd definitely jump on it. But the size of the gzip bundle of a SPA done with Elm that is quite competitive with the other frameworks now feels bloated since 0.19 will have dead code elimination. It's not rational.
Emotionally, I'm with the sibling comment. But intellectually, I know I'm biased.
There's an awesome book called Predictably Irrational about that kind of phenomenons, I highly recommend it!