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Thanks for all the love. "This time is different" is literally the best indicator that you should reconsider your thinking. In the end you are the owner of a (digital) asset and you are telling me you cannot place a value on it? That would bother me.

But you are indeed right, I am coming from the stock world and tend to look at those crypto currencies that are linked to a venture (or better yet where the coins are direct share ownership in the company such as Lykke). In this way I can try to ascertain a value because I can see an underlying business model.

I usually try to avoid pure crypto currencies because they have no ascertainable value to me. You are buying hope that one day they will be used for payments or as a store of value. That being said, I do own BTC and a few others where I see this may one day be the case. I am painfully aware however that it can go to zero tomorrow and that could be perfectly plausible. Something like BTC is based on what people believe it's worth, it can be $5'000 just as likely as it can be $0. Be prepared to lose everything and invest accordingly. I like the optionality to the upside as long as I can afford to lose 100%.

And no, you shouldn't listen to investment advice on this space specifically form finance people. But you should respect investment and speculation wisdom that has recurred over centuries stretching from [tulips] (http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160419-tulip-mania-the-flowers-that-cost-more-than-houses), to [stock certificates] (https://www.amazon.com/Reminiscences-Stock-Operator-Edwin-Lef%C3%A8vre/dp/0471770884), to [real estate] (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2009/01/06/reference/lessons-from-when-the-bubble-burst/#.WVye_BOGPUI) to [Beanie Babies] (https://qz.com/114753/meet-the-family-who-lost-100000-when-the-beanie-baby-bubble-burst/).

There is nothing new under the sun.

Here there is a t-shirt with this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C2RLJHL?_encoding=UTF8&customId=B07535Y9T6

Most people are fundamentally good - travel the planet and it is easy to understand.

The problem is that many of our systems are susceptible to socio- and even psychopathic bad actors and this problem gets worse the more power is centralised.

You only have to look at some of vile people that typically rise to the top of big corporations - however these people are the minority in any company. What we need is systems that are resistant to such people. This is the experiment in governance that is now underway in the blockchain space.

(Reminds me of this book: The No Arsehole Rule
https://www.amazon.com/Asshole-Rule-Civilized-Workplace-Surviving/dp/1600245854)