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u/freerangepenguin · 4 pointsr/ketogains

I am similar to you. I have ET, and it is very hard for me to gain weight. When I was your age (30+ years ago), I was 6'2" and 128 lbs soaking wet. About 8-9 years ago, I was still no heavier than 135-140 lbs.

Then I read a book called, Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. It inspired me to start lifting heavy for the first time in my life. There are a lot of ways to go about it, but I followed a super simple plan called StrongLifts 5x5. On top of that, I lowered my carbs a bit and increased my protein and fat intake (this was before keto was such a big thing) and tracked my macros and calorie intake on My Fitness Pal. For the first time in my life, I started to gain weight and got up to a lean 160 lbs in less than a year. I'm sure that I would have continued a "clean" weight gain if I had stuck to my diet and exercise routine. Unfortunately, I got off track for a variety of reasons and lost 10 of the pounds I had gained.

Now I'm considering keto to help with my ET and energy level, even though I'm not lifting and certainly not trying to lose weight.

Bottom line, if I can gain, you can gain. Lift heavy free weights. Don't waste your time on those circuit machines. Track your calories and macros. Get advice from this sub and others as far as what to eat. Stick with it. Get a workout buddy to help you stay accountable and to give you encouragement.

Good luck!

u/Baeocystin · 2 pointsr/ketogains

First off, welcome! :)

There is already a ton of good info in the links, and other's posts, but I want to emphasize, as you've mentioned:

Starting Strength, the book, and Starting Strength, the DVD.

The book does a better job than any other program I've seen in explaining exactly what to do, and how to do it. The DVD shows you what good form looks like.

Sure, you can get both from links and YouTube, but as far as I'm concerned, this is some of the best possible money spent, in terms of return on investment. You'll get a good beginner's program, and you'll see exactly what the motions are you need to do.

A good trainer is a big plus, no doubt. The problem is finding a good trainer, and not one that will just try and push hard for you to do a 30-minute circuit and call it a day. And this really is a problem. It took me months upon months to finally find the guys I wanted to train with. The amount of bull pushed in the fitness world is astounding.

My advice for supplements (beyond a basic multi, fish oil, & D) is simple: For your first year of training, ignore them.

First comes form, technique, and newbie gains. That will fill out an entire year. There's enough to learn that you won't get bored. Honest. :)

Eat however you enjoy most that gets you the daily calories/macros you need. Timing details are when you're searching for the last half a percent of gain. Right now is not the time for that. Right now is time to bask in your newbgains and nail down the basics, because the rapid progress a beginner makes is an awesome feeling!

u/lrugo · 1 pointr/ketogains

Let me ask you this--do you need a trainer? Do you want a trainer? Or are you just a little uncomfortable at the idea of going it on your own (i.e., fear)? Because it sounds to me like you're just a bit nervous but ultimately know what to do. In which case, I say, toss the trainer idea and trust yourself. You can do this without any annoying/sexist dude bruhs guilting you while they check your form, and you can do it while saving $1300 (take yourself on a nice vacation to a spa town in 12 weeks instead).

I can't remember where I picked this up, but someone told me once that women tend to have good form in the weight room because they're more deliberate lifters. They're not just chasing high numbers and sacrificing their posture to do it. Also, with the difference in anatomy (Q-angles of knees, width of pelvis, etc.), I've had some men give me really questionable advice about form--like squatting with my knees closer together than was comfortable and having them insist that my discomfort/pain was normal. Like, no. But like in all things, the "default" of training advice tends to be for men, with "specialized" advice given for women's SPECIAL knees, so you can't really count on an everyman at the gym to know those things.

This is one of my favorite books:

It goes into detail about the muscles used in every exercise and variations, details about tendons and how the length of your femur will affect the leverage you get in a squat. There are notes for female anatomy and cautions/tips for form on pretty much every exercise you can think of.

u/Ketofanboy · 12 pointsr/ketogains

It's cyclical keto, the point of ingesting a full carb load is to prompt an insulin response and fill glycogen stores which in turn releases IGF and raises muscle building hormones in blood serum. The full glycogen stores allow for more reps of lift to failure versus skd as well. Whereas a SKD approach is strict low carb, CKD is pretty complex but is definitively result producing for quite a lot of people. The complexity of CKD really susses out over time, especially when you have plenty of time in SKD which is highly recommendable for the best results on the basis that you learn your body, and how it's going to react to low carb and low carb strength gains so over time you'll be able to more specifically implement a carb cycle into keto without gaining non-lean mass.

If you want more info check out this particular book, that while dated (bout 20 years) is full of amazing and still relevant information, it really blazed a trail for a lot of regular guys to fine tune CKD.

Also I did check out the article and it seems like this particular author is recommending whole grain, brown rice ect from a pool of jumbled information, mixing random information from CKD and SKD- you see oatmeal and other super high glycemic index foods enter the realm of cycling a lot.

u/lookalive07 · 1 pointr/ketogains

You'll definitely need to recalculate your macros to incorporate working out and losing more fat/gaining more muscle.

Calorie-wise, Fat contains 9 calories per gram, Protein contains 4 calories per gram, and Carbs contain 4 calories per gram. That's essentially why we can remain satiated eating far less carbs by comparison, and more fat than the Standard American Diet (acronym is SAD for a reason...).

But the good thing with incorporating exercise, specifically lifting weights with this diet, is that you can cut back on some of the fat and incorporate more protein, which not only fuels your muscles, but is less calories per gram, so less to burn. For example, your macros are the following:

  • 98g Fat (882 calories, 51%)
  • 79g Protein (316 calories, 41%)
  • 16g Carbs (64 calories, 8%)

    For a grand total of only 1262 calories. You could easily afford to eat more protein while lifting since you'll probably burn at least another 100 calories during your workout. Since protein is just as calorie-dense as carbs, and more than half as calorie-dense as fat, you can afford to increase your protein intake by another 25g to compensate for the 100 calories you're burning during a workout (again, just an estimate).

    Luckily, Isopure Zero Carb Protein Powder has exactly 25g of protein per scoop, zero carbs, and zero fat.

    Also, as another tool, try the Fitbod app, which can be used for free for three workouts before you have to pay. That can give you a relatively decent idea of how many calories you're burning per workout, and it has a lot of specific lift exercises that can really narrow it down.

    Hope this helps!
u/Shiftgood · 2 pointsr/ketogains

Cramps and fatigue will tell you if you're getting enough electrolytes. I've never been big on fixed numbers for the day but it certainly works for people. If you're doing hard workouts then I recommend those ketone salts (unflavored). They have a pretty good ratio (although it does have calcium but also a lot of magnesium to go along with it). The whole salt = high blood pressure thing is a bit overrated and not well understood. If you have good functioning kidneys, then you should be able to process huge amounts of salt without any problems and it will actually lower your blood pressure and keep your cardiovascular system healthy. Source.


Check out vitamin D3 + K2(MK7) supplements to help move the calcium into the bone and tissue if you're still cramping after getting enough electrolytes.

u/carried_the_zero · 3 pointsr/ketogains

Nature's Best Isopure Zero Carb Creamy Vanilla is a staple in my diet. 50g protein per 2 scoops and 0 carbs. I add 1-2 tbsp of peanut butter for an extra fat boost and blend it with some water and some crushed ice which gives it a nice smoothie texture. Tastes great and fits my macros nicely. If you're not down for Vanilla flavor, the dutch chocolate is pretty good and only 1 net carb per 2 scoops.

u/SocraticallyPwn · 1 pointr/ketogains

No this one

It's the current edition.

This book will tell you everything you need to know about starting to train. The squat chapter is 64 pages long and it will explain everything, foot position, angle, grip, where to put the bar... all of it. There's also a starting strength channel on YouTube and you can see real time coaching. It's hard to go it alone but I'm doing it to pretty great effect. At some point in the next month I'll finally make an appointment with a SSC (starting strength coach) and get the issues with my form cleared up. It'll be a couple hours drive but worth it.

u/credondo · 1 pointr/ketogains

I can't say from experience in regards to MusclePharm Z-Core PM; however based on the supplement facts on their website it doesn't contain any BCAAs. Not to mention this isn't really a pre-workout supplement, more for before you sleep (unless you workout before you go to bed). *Note that it has melatonin.

[Unstoppable pre-workout?] ( based on this, since it doesn't have any BCAAs either, yes you will need extra BCAAs (preferably post workout).

ON Amino Energy has all the essential BCAAs, so you're good with that.

Frankly, you would benefit the most from the creatine (make sure it's monohydrate) and from ON Amino Energy. However, it would be more cost effective if you just bought straight up BCAAs like [these] ( and instead of using that Unstoppable pre-workout, go for some coffee or caffeine pills.

u/pfote_65 · 6 pointsr/ketogains

of course you can "bulk" on keto, too. you don't need carbs for that. And yeah, you sound as if you're not reacting well to carbs (or some of them at least). The GAS issue is usually related to your gut bacteria, you miss apparently some for the carbs you are eating, so this probably gets better over time.

But I consider the whole "bulking/cutting" done in the bodybuilder scene a myth, they came up with some patterns that work, and those are religiously followed now. Science says, if you have the proteins it takes, and a caloric deficit not too big, and the necessary growth stimuli from your exercises, you will gain lean mass. actually you have some benefits like growth hormone and other things.

"the art and science of low carbohydrate performance" by Volek and Phinney might be a good read for your coach :-)

u/colloidaloatmeal · 1 pointr/ketogains

When I was still adapting last summer in the middle of a heat wave, I was chugging this stuff with some Lite Salt added every day.

Now, I don't need it as much. It's been cold, and my diet's pretty rich in sodium and potassium. Plus I supplement magnesium. It will still be my go-to electrolyte mix once it's hot again and I've been pouring sweat for hours, but I haven't needed any in months.

For the record, I'm on month 8 now and I feel like I'm still improving on the bike. First 3 weeks were hell. By the end of week 6 I felt great. The past few months I've noticed a lot of improvements in my speed and stamina, but that could also be from losing ~35lbs since August.

u/sully213 · 1 pointr/ketogains

If you want to do a whey protein, I've been using Nature's Best Perfect Zero Carb Isopure. Tastes good and doesn't have anything ketoers don't want.

u/Jimboy3625 · 1 pointr/ketogains

According to the nutrition facts your 6x Orange Triad Multivitamin is only giving your 100mg or 25% of your daily magnesium needs. I would definitely up your magnesium levels. I usually take about 400mg a day and I don't have problems with muscle cramping or excessive soreness. It's worth a shot anyway, it's relatively cheap, I use Doctor's Best brand

u/Miketheguy · 3 pointsr/ketogains

Optimum Nutrition is freaking great!! Overall good brand, and always priced pretty affordable - no frill good stuff

All sorts of sizes avaiable!

u/ModalMonkey · 5 pointsr/ketogains

I'd check out Starting Strength and as /u/dubdubdub2014 mentioned, Stronglifts 5x5. You'll see both of these programs recommended a lot on /r/fitness.

Beyond picking up a copy and reading Starting Strength, 3rd edition, I don't have any personal experience with either program. What I can say is that the author, Mark Rippetoe, does an amazing job at breaking down and explaining the mechanics and progression of learning of each of the lifts in his program. Though I haven't started yet, I decided on Starting Strength over SL 5x5 based on this review.

Whatever path you choose, make sure you learn the proper movements before you start loading up the weight. Learning the right technique initially is a lot easier than unlearning the wrong and then learning the right one later on. Take your time, and if something feels wrong, it probably is.

u/cysgr8 · 1 pointr/ketogains

This is the caliper we got . It works well but you need a second person to help you... Kind of

u/tgsmith489 · 1 pointr/ketogains

This can be pretty subjective and without peeling the fat off your body and measuring it there's no way to know 100%. That being said there's a few things you can do to get a general idea.

First, you can compare yourself to some of the pictures out there and try to guess where you fit in. Example

Another option is to get some calipers and measure yourself. I've had these recommended to me and they seem to work pretty well.

At the very least, you can get calipers or a tape measure and keep track of trends, even if you don't have your exact bf%.

u/I_637261636b_bits · 2 pointsr/ketogains

> Just eyeballing it and due to lack of definition in the upper abdominals (I'm sure you can "pinch an inch" just below your pecs) I believe you are around ~15-16%

That's what I was originally guestimating at, between 14% and 16%. And yes, I can definitely pinch an inch.

> What calipers are you using?

For home use, I'm using the Sequoia Defender calipers.

> To correctly use calipers, follow this guide
> And place results here (choose 7 point system, as it is more accurate).

Thanks, I'll see about taking a more accurate measurement this way this weekend.

u/SpringsOfInfinity · 2 pointsr/ketogains

Hm, interesting. I've never heard of it but checked it out. Really, you're only at 60g of net carbs at two servings of it (because of the fiber). It also has a little MCT in it which is interesting. If you had really low carb at dinner you could potentially stay in keto, and even if not in keto you're keeping insulin pretty low throughout the day so you should be able to access fat for fuel pretty easily.

I go for a similar amount of nutrients in a quick shake form by using a scoop of VegaOne and a scoop of IsoPure (which has a ton of potassium) in a shake with spinach, a few berries, an avocado and a handful of macadamia nuts.

u/bsoxy12 · 2 pointsr/ketogains

This one works for me! I've heard great things about this drink, but I prefer the pills to just get it over with haha.

u/hal4019 · 2 pointsr/ketogains

Doctor's Best High Absorption Magnesium Glycinate Lysinate, 100% Chelated, Non-GMO, Vegan, Gluten Free, Soy Free, 200 mg, 240 Tablets

This is what I use and what I have heard from a couple people is the best kind. I swear by it. I bought it for anxiety purposes but it works for this really well.

u/premiso · 2 pointsr/ketogains

I tend to make my own. You can buy empty capsules and then just fill it to what you estimate you need sodium wise.

Looking online, they have this deal called a "SaltStick" which sounds awesome! I might have to pick me up some of these instead of making my own. Especially as it has more than just "salt" in them!

u/coldcoffeereddit · 1 pointr/ketogains

First of all, ignore the agent of Broki's words about IF digging into muscles, that's poppycock.

second of all, ur not getting the most out of intermittently fasting, you are more just taking long breaks between meals. If you really want to see the power of IF, dedicate a 4 to 6 hour window and consume all of your food for the day inside that window, do not consume anything with calories outside of that window.

to theorycraft the ideal setup, you would want to lift just before breaking your fast, consuming the BCAA and Creatine prior to lifting, and then beginning to consume your daily intake after lifting. That would produce massive gainz.

+1 for Stronglifts 5x5

+1 for /u/Grimloki 's suggestion for REST HARD, don't do anything inbetween lifts, Cardio is a tool of Broki and will steal your gainz. it also doesn't help you drop BF%

Other things? consider Whey Protien, for immedate consumption post workout. Optimum Nutrition is a well respected brand and their Rocky Road flavor is delicious.

u/sendmorewhisky · 3 pointsr/ketogains

I started Keto a while ago for weight loss with great success, but this podcast was the first time I heard details about the physiology behind it and the benefits other than weight loss. It's a little dense but really worth listing to, and they have at least one more podcast they did after this. Rhonda Patrick interviewed him on her podcast but that was really dense, I had to work my way up to it. Anyway, this is worth a listen if you're just starting out.

Also, this is a good book to pick up.

u/LeetMultisport · 1 pointr/ketogains

Read this:


Then get these:


Pop 2 two to three times per day (in general) and before and after every workout. They also sell a version with caffeine in it. I'll take 3 of those (solid dose of electrolytes) for 90mg of caffeine before a fasted morning workout. Makes a big difference.


As another poster said, measure your electrolyte intake daily and increase it until your symptoms go away (within reason). You should also make sure you are supplementing Mg... per Volek and Phinney. I've found that Mag64 2x per day prevents almost all cramping. I'll do a 30 day cycle and then drop it until I start to early signs of cramps and then restart (it is not cheap).


Good luck,


u/nezia · 1 pointr/ketogains

I've got this one with me at basically all times and make good use of it:


u/phantom1024 · 1 pointr/ketogains

When I use my Bio impedance tool after a bowel movement, before a shower, after I wakeup, before drinking any liquids and before any exercise I get the results within 0.1% difference to the 3 point caliper measurement.

But, I agree that body fat measurement is a pretty inaccurate process even when using a dexa scan.

I use the Omron with the athlete mode on it:

u/Kream · 1 pointr/ketogains

Hi all. I'm currently guiding around 10 people through the diet -- inner core of family and friends and word of mouth is spreading quickly.

I tend to use the following books for them:

  1. Why we get fat
  2. Art and Science of Low-Carbohydrate Living
  3. Good Calories, Bad Calories

    The first one is an easy-to-digest paperback while the second one gets a bit more into the "how" of keto. GCBC is an exceptionally good book for anyone interested in the details.
u/Motorboat_Jones · 2 pointsr/ketogains

That kind of testing should be part of the membership. I bring in my own calipers, show which sites I want skinfold measurements and put them into the calculator on my phone so there's no room for interpretation. Some personal trainers are scumbags.

Maybe your husband can do the measurements for you. Here's a site that shows the 7-point method and also where to plug those numbers in to give you the results. As per /u/darthluiggi 's suggestion, I use the Defender bodyfat caliper. I've had great results with it.

u/darthluiggi · 1 pointr/ketogains

I haven't used the one you listed, but I think /u/hobbes259 has it, ask him how he likes it.

Here is the Sequoia Defender Caliper - this is the one I currently use.

u/seancarter · 1 pointr/ketogains

Wow! I hadn't really thought of that. I know people can occasionally come out of a stall by carb loading and hitting reset. But I tended to shy away as that was part of why it took so long for my from-start number to drop again. Plus, while I love that no-carb day when you're getting back into ketosis, I hate waking up and doing an hour or more of HIIT on an empty stomach.

How do you like Flexible Dieting over Complete Diet? I found that to be more of a technical manual I'd go to for additional info.

u/piscopink · 1 pointr/ketogains

Very interesting!

Question though, why are protein shakes listed as 'in moderation'? I'm drinking 2 or 3 of these a day: Should I be concerned?

u/mkor · 2 pointsr/ketogains

How long you are on keto?

According to statements in the book "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance" by Jeff S. Volek PhD RD and Stephen D. Phinney MD PhD, you should performer better on keto, when certain time of adaptation (usualy 2-4 weeks?) is allowed.

u/lessthanjoey · 1 pointr/ketogains

Magnesium oxide is useless. I get this magnesium:

Works great and solves my cramping.

u/anbeav · 2 pointsr/ketogains

So you've always felt tired, it sounds like perhaps something you should discuss with a doctor as it doesn't seem keto-related.

MCT oil is medium chain triglyceride which is directly converted to ketones for immediate energy ( Many mix it in coffee, but you can add it to tea.

I also do IF and train fasted, the original leangains protocol is based on fasted-training, but if that's not working for you perhaps consider a different approach.

u/[deleted] · 2 pointsr/ketogains

yup, that's stronglifts

starting strength is a similar 3x5 program

EDIT: This is a good book of several exercises that you can use to make your own program after you are done with SL or SS. BUT, do SS or SL first if you haven't lifted for atleast a year

u/ramrod1 · 2 pointsr/ketogains

Is this the right ratio? Is there a different one you recommend?

u/iloqin · 1 pointr/ketogains

Get a scale, like I did, such as these:

u/SpindlySpiders · 2 pointsr/ketogains

Best deal I've found is on Amazon, and this doesn't have any strong flavors.

I mix it with shakes or smoothies and don't have any stomach problems from it. One time I thought I'd skip the shake and just swallow it directly. Big mistake. I was in the bathroom almost all day. I've never tried capsules before, but I recommend spreading it out over a whole day or at least a few hours and not taking it all in one go.

u/TheEliteDragon · 1 pointr/ketogains

I use these mainly on days that I work out for the electrolyte replenishment but they could probably work on a regular basis, too, to help with potassium. It's not a HUGE amount of potassium but it's another way to get it besides a salt substitute.


u/BillWeld · 1 pointr/ketogains

If you're running on carbs you have a much smaller store of energy to draw from before you hit the wall. Fat-adapted athletes have like ten times more. The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance.

u/strikerdeath · 1 pointr/ketogains

I ride 50-68 miles as well on keto.

For electrolytes, I've been using SaltStick

u/tennis_ · 1 pointr/ketogains

I haven't used coconut oil because I buy this: . I would think coconut oil would work as well since that's what this comes from.

u/goldiemypal · 6 pointsr/ketogains

For me, i drink 1 packet of electro mix with some mio in the morning (mixed with 1L of water) and then i make another one right before my workout and drink that during and after my workout in the evening(after work). I believe working out drains electrolytes even faster on an active lifestyle, so i guess a steady state of electrolyte intake throughout the day does the trick. I haven't gotten any electrolyte deficiency symptoms( at least so far), but I know I'm not getting enough sodium in my diet(5k mg is a monster amount imo)

I've done keto and working out before AND totally ignored electrolytes so I know the bane of that deficiency, which I wish upon nobody.

u/queen_of_sarcasm · 5 pointsr/ketogains

I eat a lot of "snacks" as meals, so these are my ideas for chow on the go without a fridge:

  • Almonds

  • Celery

  • Raw Broccoli

  • Peanut Butter

  • Quest Bars

  • ElectroMix (to keep those electrolytes in check)

  • Bacon

  • Hunters Sausage or any low carb jerky

  • Romaine lettuce wrapped meat & cheese sandwiches

  • Cream Cheese wrapped in salami (you can freeze these overnight, then throw them into the cooler and they should defrost by when you want to eat them)

  • Egg muffins (again, you can freeze overnight & they thaw)

  • Coconut oil in coffee. I use something like this or you could use a mason jar to be able to shake the coffee/oil to keep it from separating. If you drink it in the morning, you can use heavy cream too so you don't have to refrigerate it.

    [EDIT: formatting]
u/nikkamma · 1 pointr/ketogains

> Isopure zero carb

The one I have is Zero carbs for 2 scoops. Amazon link:

u/kafkian · 1 pointr/ketogains

If you're cramping it might be an electrolyte issue. Try magnesium citrate and try to use lo-salt instead of the regular salt (contains potassium). You might also want to check one of the famous books on the topic

u/Bosona · 1 pointr/ketogains

I'm not in canada but i just took link from above post, copied the name of the product and put it in and it's available

same with glycine capsules

u/theycallmestac-y · 3 pointsr/ketogains

I put a tablespoon or so of great lakes grass fed gelatin in my coffee. thickens it a little bit especially as it cools, but otherwise doesn't change the taste or anything else.

u/VV4DE · 1 pointr/ketogains

Buy this:

Read this:

I use that site and compare with other sites for calculations. It's still not 100% accurate but when you get it figured out to get consistent results it's a decent benchmark to go by.

u/mersoz · 2 pointsr/ketogains

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey is only $58 for 5 lbs

24g protein and 3g carbs per serving

u/csjoblom · 2 pointsr/ketogains

Don't use the scale as an indicator, Ketostix won't tell you anything either outside of ketosis markers (which vary greatly depending on the time of day).

Measure your body fat % and get a measuring tape.

u/n3tm0nk3y · 1 pointr/ketogains

I am very keen on gelatin for two reasons. I am nursing a shoulder connective tissue injury, and I do a lot of grip exercise that puts a lot of strain on the connective tissue in my hands. I put roughly 1/2 to 1 tablespoon of gelatin powder on my eggs every morning.

I buy this:

u/wyndyl · 1 pointr/ketogains

Hey dude check out this book. I think it will have the answers you want.

The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance

The authors have done a lot of Keto research.

u/bcm_618 · 4 pointsr/ketogains

Why don't you just take the BCAA in capsule form and avoid the entire need to water anything down, worry about flavor, etc? Way easier, and not that expensive. Optimum sells them on amazon for $23.

u/211RunnerGirl · 7 pointsr/ketogains

Be wary of the nutritional info though - a few that I looked at seem suspect (the snapper with blue cheese dressing for example) given that 1 cup of blue cheese is almost 500 Cal.

u/kuj0317 · 1 pointr/ketogains

I don't have the answer, but I'd look to this for answers:

in case the link is not visible, its Dr Jeff Volek's book "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance"

u/paranoidom · 3 pointsr/ketogains

Generic guide to HR zones. Most of what I said is from this book which is sort of a sequel to this one; although you can definitely read the former first (the latter is quite a bit more detailed).

Lyle Mcdanold is going to be a golden resouce as he specifically talks about HIIT on keto (ref FAQ in r/keto for actual references).

Anecdotal: My background is MTB and a bit of kettlebell work in addition to intermediate level strength training. Since keto switch:

  • No hunger issues on long (35mi+) rides

  • After intermittent trail "sprints", recovery took ~20-30% longer

  • Kettlebell work (zone 4)..boredom and forearm fatigue settle in before anything else.

  • Strength training suffered for ~1mo; back on track after that. However, post workout energy level is still high (although muscles/nerves are still fatigued) and no hunger issues or getting tired during workouts.

u/mkaito · 3 pointsr/ketogains

For most people, staying under 50g carbs/day, along with moderate protein intake, is more than low enough to get into and stay in nutritional ketosis. Others might need to go lower, and yet others might well tolerate up to 100g/day without issues. Going under 20g/day is usually unnecessary in the absence of metabolic conditions.

Source: The art and science of low carbohydrate living.

u/bonekeeper · 1 pointr/ketogains

I see. Do you lift weights? Any change in the weights you can push? I asked about muscle mass loss because on this book Lyle says that muscle loss is inevitable with a full keto diet - I did keto once and lost 40 pounds in 6 months but I was not lifting weights then, and I did seem to lose a lot of muscle (was very thin afterwards) but I couldn't tell if it was due to diet alone or diet + lack of lifting weights in the first place (since lifting weights is a way to avoid muscle loss).

So now I find myself wanting to try keto again to burn fat but not at the cost of muscle (which is much harder to gain than fat is to get burned) and wanted to see if keto + weights would be enough to keep most muscle mass without having to do a "regular bro" diet and fat burn split (in other words, fasted cardio and post-training cardio - with steroids to stave off muscle loss).

Thought I would ask since you seem to be in good shape in your "before" picture and you seem like you work out. I have read anecdotal tales on another subreddit about people using keto and trenbolone for dramatic muscle loss (with virtually no muscle loss) but would rather avoid steroids altogether.

Something else I thought of trying too is keto + weights + leucine since it seems leucine seems to be associated with muscle maintenance.