Hello and welcome! Please look through the Sub Guidelines, the Kratom 101, and this important Guide To Phrasing. Headshops definitely charge premium prices. I know you will be able to find better value here but your account is too new and does not have enough sub-related karma to make postings. You are welcome to join in any ongoing discussions. We look forward to getting to know you.

Thank you and please let us know if you have any other questions.

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In addition to that Daily Vendor List here is a list of [Current Sales and Discount Codes](https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/5q5n3t/deals_steals_0125_youll_feel_like_you_picked_a/


There are a handful of more popular quality vendors. All of the vendors on that sales posting are top rated trustworthy vendors. You can't go wrong with any of them. Canopy Botanicals is another great one they are just not having a sale right now so they are not listed in the deals posting. Most of those vendors sell samplers or smaller quantities like ounces. If you need more help picking out what is right for you, contact this guy and he will get you started by customizing a sampler with 5 different ounces for $25 including shipping.

As far as what would be closest to headshop "Maeng Da," that is hard to say. Products sold at headshops are often labeled with advertising in mind and the name of the product is not always an accurate descriptor of the actual product itself. With something called "Maeng Da" that doesn't even come into play yet since they is a very broad term that literally means "pimp grade" and has come to be attached to just about any strain a vendor wants to denote as kind of premium. There are countless 'Maeng Da" strains. Your best course of action is to try a handful of different strains and keep notes - dosages, effects, pros & cons, etc. If that sounds daunting, Krajournal is a very easy to use tool for doing so. (It is best to use a scale for measuring dosages). You can narrow things down from there.

Finding what works can take some time, patience, and trial and error but it can be worth it. Many times people starting out think that it is not 'working' at first. Some of that is about managing expectations.

There is a lot of good information here. Familiarize yourself with more of the content already here and narrow down strains based on what effects you are looking for. There is a section in the Kratom 101 that explains strains in general. Here are two other great things to read:

• Don't Know What Kratom Is? Read This!
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• The Kratom Literacy Project
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

I use the cap-m-quik when i want to do small amounts of capsules (50). I also have a 100 hole capsule filling machine which works well for doing 100 at a time, someone on here gave me it because he didn't buy a tamper/press plate with it. The 100 hole machine has the benefit of being able to put the bottoms in, shake it and they fall into the hole - plus you press the caps on with the machine, its a lot less finger work... but i use both depending on what i need.

I don't capsule Kratom, i use them for other supplements.

Have you tried an actual, proper brewed and strained tea? You might enjoy it. It's so much tastier than toss/wash and so much stronger than capsule (IMO). Here is a couple of tutorials if you're intrigued, and bare in mind you can brew a bulk batch once or twice a week and keep it unsweetend in your fridge.

Mine often tastes like an acidic/lemon flavored green tea (I use an acid - Apple cider vinegar). It's easier to gauge your dosage, as you can sip and feel it much quicker (ime). I often take less than i did when I was toss and washing, i would toss and wash 2.5g in 1 toss versus sipping a tea and often feeling good enough before i reach the 2.5g worth (brewed in half a quart of tea).

Version 1 and Version 2

Credit to /u/WotAnAtti2d

Also a video tutorial

Credit to /u/NerdsTakeOnTheWorld

Oblate Discs are another option that many people on here find success with. This is for more of a parachute approach if you're interested in that (wrap 2g up, drink water, dip pouch in water, swallow it chase with water). They're totally food safe and easy on digestion versus Toilet Paper (>_<). Here's some past discussions about them;

• Japanese edible film toss/wash/capsule hybrid
  
  
• Thank you to the gods who created oblate discs
  
  
• T&W make You Shudder? Oblate Discs ftw
  
  
• Anyone ever try these? (Oblate disc)
  
  
• Oblate Discs Japanese edible Film
  
  
• What are oblate discs to take Kratom?
  
  
• Oblate disk edible film
  
  
• Oblate Disks
  
  
• Favorite way to take your Kratom?
  
  
• Edible Film(Oblate discs
  

Kratom can be a very beneficial tool if used responsibly. First, you'll want a gram scale like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000O37TDO/ref=pd_gwm_simh_0?pf_rd_p=eeda26e3-c818-411e-91c7-e824b2883986&pf_rd_s=blackjack-personal-2&pf_rd_t=Gateway&pf_rd_i=mobile&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=898VZ29JK7381FRKZA4Q&pd_rd_wg=8n6KV&pd_rd_r=898VZ29JK7381FRKZA4Q&pf_rd_r=898VZ29JK7381FRKZA4Q&pf_rd_p=eeda26e3-c818-411e-91c7-e824b2883986&pd_rd_w=7WJry&pd_rd_i=B000O37TDO . You should try a red, Bentuangie, gold of green strain. The different colors represent have different alkaloids, which give them different effects, to put it simply. As for vendors, herbal Rva, socal herbal remedies, Gaia ethnobotanicals are some of the most popular here. I recommend getting the Royal Bentuangie and whatever other strain from Herbal Rva, https://herbal-rva.com/?s=speciosa&post_type=product . It is the strain I recommend to people for relaxation / pain relief, as it works really well and is very popular. The side effects from Kratom are nausea, headaches and withdrawals (which are different for everybody). You'll get nauseas if you take too much, you'll get a headache if you don't drink a lot of water as Kratom dehydrates you similar to alcohol does. You can also eat some ginger like the candy Chimes or Gin Gins and they help with nausea. These are easy to avoid though, by finding the best dose that works for you. A good amount to start with is 2 grams, and if it doesn't work that well, then add a gram after a few hours have passed. Keep doing this until you find an amount that feels good and works for you. Something to remember though is that some strains of Kratom won't work and you won't feel them, while some will work great for you. I wrote a post on how I take my Kratom, and there are some more methods in the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/6in8zl/the_easiest_most_effective_way_to_take_kratom/ .Hope this helps, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask

Hello! Welcome and thanks for coming out of the shadows! My first thought when reading this is that you might need a different vendor. In the 3 vendors I've tried, only 1 sent me 4 AWESOME strains, 1 vendor had 2/6 good strains and another was 3/4. So I literally have sample bags of Kratom that does nothing for me. It's unfortunate but true, you'll have to shop around a little to find what works best and doesn't have any undesirable effects.

Stay hydrated. Get this scale when you can but for now just be vigilant with those packed and leveled, not heaped, measuring teaspoons.

Try potentiating your Kratom. Mix it in grapefruit juice and drink it. Might make a difference. Do you ever experience low blood sugar? Kratom suppresses appetite for some, not all. Maybe by the time you're coming down, your blood sugar is getting low. Maybe you'd be the type of person to benefit from a snack 30 minutes - 1 hour in, or even better, a snack when you feel like it's wearing off.

Ideally you should get energy and a mood lift, so I'm confused about your effects. Also, have you ever taken any other drugs before? Do you have anything to compare this experience to?

A loosely filled level teaspoon is ~ 2g, a tightly packed level teaspoon is ~ 3g. Hope this helps... but yeah, get a scale.

I love this one that I got off Amazon; it can take a small regular weight bowl without damage, the platform is big enough to use (about 2" square), and the lid folds all the way back and lies flat so that it doesn't interfere with what you're doing. I used calibrating weights to test it when it arrived and found it was perfectly accurate already. Best of all it's $9.95 with Prime shipping, if you're signed up for Prime.

And that's not the only one; there are plenty of good sub-gram scales out there, usually cheap (<$20). No reason not to have a scale if you've tried kratom and feel like you'll be kratoming for a while.

ProTip ™ : Buy a small digital scale. Amazon has excellent options. I bought this one and it's totes awesomes. https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Scales-AWS-600-BLK-Nutrition/dp/B000O37TDO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1536284257&sr=8-4&keywords=small+digital+scale

It helps keep your dosing accurate and consistent.

I used to not weigh my doses....I would just "measure" by size of scoop I was taking with my spoon....totally unreliable and inaccurate way of measuring dosage. I would get upset when I wasn't getting consistent results/got the wobbles when the day before I took the "same amount" and it didn't make me sick etc...

Scale is a game changer, dude.

ALSO: Less is more (to a certain extent): Find your effective dosage range, and try to stay in that range.

Mine is 6.5-8.8 grams per/dose. No more, no less. I took me a long time to figure this range out...lots of vomiting from taking too much....and a lot of disappointment/being a sad panda because my silly leaf powder wasn't helping.

This helps keep your tolerance at bay, adhering to a dosage range...as long as you're not dosing excessively (frequency wise). This is just my personal experience, however. Your mileage may vary. Your mileage might actually be kilometers. That's ok too. Just be mindful of your dosing, keep a little log book to record dosage, effects, duration, symptoms relieved etc. I did that for a while and it helped me figure out dosage, as well as the vendors I choose to purchase from (don't worry I'm not gonna name names, I'm cool man, I'm cool....), and preferred strain color (kinda...they're pretty much the same tbh...except some Red veins are waaaay more sleepy than any white, green, yellow etc.)

Alright done ranting.

Welcome to the family!

*everybody high fives awkwardly* :)

I take this exact kind every night. Honestly, it doesn't really affect my bowel movements that much. It does however, potentiate the effects of kratom, which is the main reason why I take it.

Before switching over to this brand/type of magnesium, I used Magnesium Citrite powder, specifically this one. Not the best kind for potentiating kratom, BUT super good for helping out bowel movements, which seems to be what you're after. I'd really recommend the one i linked simply because you get a lot for your money. I see many people recommend the "now calm" brand, because it has a great taste, but it's very expensive for the amount of mag you actually get from it. The one I linked doesn't have a sweet taste, it's basically just chalky. But it is a much better deal.

Prune juice is also a viable alternative for aiding bowel movements, and it's what I take. Just 1 cup when I wake up and it keeps everything soft and smooth lol. I actually find it more effective than mag citrite.

>Plus the time it takes to cap that up (no cap machine) is a hell in itself. Like four hours at least to do 100g

Check out these. You can fit up to 3 grams in them, and they are super easy to swallow. You just put your kratom in the middle, fold it like a burrito, and then lightly dampen your finger and touch it on the folds to seal it. Then you swallow it with a drink. I guess it's an easier and safer way to parachute, but I don't how similar it is because I've never actually parachuted anything. They are cheap and you get 200 in a $6 pack. And they will save you a lot of time.


>Usually I buy 100g bags and enjoy it for a week and a half, then deal with minor withdrawal for a day or two.

Would it be possible to lower your dose? I know it would take a few days but after about a week of using a lower dose I start to get good effects from that dose. If you could lower your dose by just a few grams it each it would help.

Also, I know you said your low on funds but if you can afford it then get some agmatine. You can get 100g for like $12 of Amazon. If you take between 1-2g a day it can help you cut your dose in half. It makes you doses last longer, too.

I'm sorry you're going through this.

I would recommend getting a scale so you can get an exact measurement, it's pretty important if you're sensitive to the effects. The one I have linked is under $10 and very reliable. Hope you're able to find your sweet spot, good luck!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000O37TDO/ref=asc_df_B000O37TDO5395425/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B000O37TDO&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167134584690&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2290962973240597991&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029671&hvtargid=pla-275656662431

I've been known to use this shaker cup with all sorts of supplements already in it as part of my wellness regimen. OJ and green powder make a brown color that looks a lot like many protein powders on the market. Plus, everybody will think you're just trying to get fit! My personal preference is Trop 50. It's light(thin?), keeps calories down, and even has one with extra calcium and vitamin D. Good luck and be careful!
Edit: It's also completely sealed so you can toss it in your bag and keep it there 'til you're ready to shake and take it.

I'm in the nutraceutical biz and what I've found is most effective is to look up on Amazon or Vitacost the drug that I'm taking, than I check the ingredients and from this you'll find the safe dosages. Branded retailers are pretty good about putting correct qty in capsules.

Go to Amazon and just type in "Enhanced Turmeric" a number of products show up. or click this link
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=enhanced+turmeric

this product says 10mg per 1500mg dose
https://www.amazon.com/Turmeric-Bioperine-Available-Standardized-Curcuminoids/dp/B01DBTFO98/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1499540532&sr=8-2&keywords=enhanced+turmeric

This product is 10mg per 1300mg dose
https://www.amazon.com/Turmeric-absorption-BioPerine-Standardized-Curcuminoids/dp/B01N18P82R/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1499540532&sr=8-3&keywords=enhanced+turmeric\

This product 10mg per 1500mg dose
https://www.amazon.com/Turmeric-absorption-BioPerine-Standardized-Curcuminoids/dp/B01N18P82R/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1499540532&sr=8-3&keywords=enhanced+turmeric

So the suggested dose of retailers is 10mg per 1500mg that is the safe level. These companies have researchers who investigate the products before formulating. Let them do there work and just follow there findings and you'll be fine. We are in a litigous society so if they are wrong than they can be sued. They usually aren't.

I don't take it but do take Remeron at night. Currently tapering back my dosage as I don't think it will be as needed now that I have Kratom. I'm also trying to not take Ambien as much. My goal is to decrease/discontinue all my pharma intake. You should try as well especially if it's worrying you as anxiety can be a source of insomnia as well. You got this man. Def take it easy on the kratom too, it should not be giving you the "wobbles" or making you feel "not great." Pay attention to your dosing and time in-between. Measure with a scale to be certain. Be well man and good luck

In my experience, any substance that can cause withdrawal symptoms should be tapered. No need to drive yourself crazy dropping it all at once, unless other factors force you to do so.

You can certainly try going down one gram a day or one gram a dose.
Another method may be to try taking half a dose and see if it evens out the symptoms without giving you any other positive effects. You may be able to dial in an amount that gets you to your goal more quickly this way.
In any situation, I’ve successfully tapered off of caffeine and nicotine with little ill-effect. I wasn’t so lucky when my prescription for tramadol (an insidious drug in my opinion) ran out and my doctor thought I would be ok cold turkey. Restless legs all night, switching between feeling far too hot then far too cold, no appetite but knowing I needed to eat; I got withdrawal symptoms like it was a job and it was sheer hell. So I know where you are coming from and feel for you man.

Take some advice on supplements from the others in the this thread, get yourself set up on a good taper schedule, and stick to it. You’ll be fine, just make sure you start weighing you powder. It can vary greatly in density, depending on grind and how it gets settled in a container. I’ve seen the same ½ teaspoon scoop give me anywhere from .5 grams on a super loose scoop to 2 grams on a tightly packed and heaping scoop. I’ve been rocking this little guy for as long as I can remember, but anything similar should be fine. https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Digital-Scale-sensitivity/dp/B0012LOQUQ

I read a comment here a couple months back that suggested Japanese oblate discs. You can get a pack of 200 on Amazon for like $6-7 and let me tell you: total game changer. Super easy to use and actually works. They're fragile so you have to be gentle but they're a godsend.

10/10 recommend

Edit: these are the ones I use
https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE/ref=asc_df_B000FQOFLE/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309744453489&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17617932982465258707&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005585&hvtargid=pla-520470922237&psc=1

Hiya. I personally cannot stand the taste of kratom powder in any form (sorry to disappoint, yall), so I use oblate discs. Zero taste at all. Just make sure to drink something warm afterwards, like lemon ginger tea. I feel like that makes it easier on your stomach and dissolves it quickly so that it's not just a lump in your belly. Best of luck to you!

Most scales will measure in grams or ounces, you just push a button to switch between the modes.

A gram scale would be fine, as long as it's OK if it's off by a gram or two. Like "100g" might be close to 99g or 101g, since it isn't showing you if it's "101.4g" or "99.5g". And most gram scales will measure over 1000g. I have this one and it's great, it's one of the top sellers on amazon. I use it to measure food/ingredients and kratom.

But you can also get scales that measure .01g that can measure over 100g. Like this one.

Nice, sounds like a good system! I have some other capsules that aren't separated, I've just been using them for my magnesium liquid and black seed oil.

This is what I bought last time, it's a pretty decent price honestly.

https://www.amazon.com/Capsule-Connection-Separated-Gelatin-Capsules/dp/B0050PHIRI/ref=lp_2586781011_1_5_a_it?srs=2586781011&ie=UTF8&qid=1495606374&sr=8-5

Yeah, sure! I just heard about them by word of mouth, and found them on amazon. It is basically making a little “taco” or “pouch” and dipping it gingerly in water, then swallowing immediately. I have had instances where I filled it too much or didn’t wrap it well and it broke in my mouth so I choked on the powder while trying to swallow, but I’ve pretty well gotten the hang of it now. They were cheaper when I bought them (about 3 or so dollars less), but there are 200 discs in each little package. I just now have gotten through half of them since my order in October. Hope this helps!

Oblate Discs - Japanese Edible Film, 200pcs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQOFLE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_eFzLAbDWEBDQZ

I take it about the same time I take agmatine 30-45 minutes before. Not convinced it does anything, but curcumin is good for the joints anyways.

5mg piperine is good enough if taken around the same time, otherwise you need the piperine with the curcumin.

Here is an example of a good curcumin product:

https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Research-Turmeric-Curcuminoids-Bioperine/dp/B00A39MPNI

Here is an example of a bad one:
https://www.amazon.com/Turmeric-Bioperine-Available-Standardized-Curcuminoids/dp/B01DBTFO98/ref=pd_lpo_121_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=5C3M27FH8KMBVD377DJZ

You can see in the second one, it only has 150mg of curcumin, while the vast majority is just turmeric. A lot of products will also put tuermeric in with curcumin in a proprietary blend. To be safe, you should make sure the only things labeled in the product are piperine and 95% curcmin extract from turmeric.

Oh that is good for you :) It's like the bitterest lime juice you can think of, for me anyway. And I could taste that sharpness in everything I mixed it with.

I haven't tried either of the things you mentioned, but hopefully my description gives you an idea.

This is the one I get - https://smile.amazon.com/Nutricost-Agmatine-100-GMS-Servings/dp/B00MY9BZHC/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1486524527&sr=8-3&keywords=agmatine - I know you can get it cheaper, but I'm lazy :) I've bought nutricost supplements in the past and were pleased with the quality as well.

I've been using capsules, but I bought some oblate discs to give them a try and I love them. I can only get about .7 grams in one so I have to use a couple per dose, but man, they go down SO easy. Doesn't take as long as capsules to work.

https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE#Ask

One minute youtube video. It's in Japanese but the visual is all you really need:

https://youtu.be/90Vyxil7WBw

I LOVE my capsule machine. I got mine for around $18.00 on Amazon and it included the 00 empty capsules (I spied them at a local smoke shop for 15.00) and works like a charm! TnW makes me throw up so I'm relegated to capsules ;)

I've bought lots of different brands of capsules and have found that the NOW 750 count 00 Capsules work best, but if you're looking at a better price you could try these ones sold in bulk sets of 1000 . They smell a little funny to me, and don't always go together properly. But that's probably my own user error.

dude, we're on the same timeline. i also took my first ever kratom yesterday. also took two teaspoons of fine powder (white) and ended up falling asleep shortly after with a headache and generally feeling pretty shitty. like these commenters have suggested, we really need to get ourselves a scale! lol. someone posted this one: https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Digital-Scale-sensitivity/dp/B0012LOQUQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1485139192&sr=8-3&keywords=scale+gram

anyhow, i tried again today with about some green (1/4 teaspoon, about 4 times today) and it was MUCH better. let me know how your journey goes. :)

I personal use them they're great I think they're on sale for 6.99 I might have bought it for 9.99 or 899 not sure. Also watch the Youtube video they show you how easily it's done here's the link hope this helps taking the kratom much easier as it has done for me.

https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE

Get a scale if you don't have one. Eat 2g of green. If you feel nothing after 1 hour eat another 1g of the same bag. If still nothing or you don't like it STOP don't take anymore that day. The next day try a red and repeat but if it doesn't do what you want after 3g STOP and wait till the next day. Keep trying, I have no doubt that almost everyone can find something they like as long as 1) you don't over saturate your system right off the bat with kratom that doesn't work for you; and 2) you give it a solid try with multiple colors/vendors. PM me if you want to. Good luck

edit: it's your bday? happy bday if so!

https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE

I've never parachuted with anything other than these but I'd imagine it's the same idea. Put the kratom in it, fold it like a burrito, lick your finger and tap the ends to seal, and then swallow it with some water. You can fit around 2g in each one, easy peasy.

I have one similar to this one, measures to .01 and mine is still going strong two years later. Edit: I have one similar, my brand was smart weigh, looks like Amazon isn't currently selling it.

I've seen recommendations for this one from people I trust.

This one isn't the cheapest but it's my favorite. It goes 3 decimals so great for any powdered supplement where accuracy for small doses is important. It's been a workhorse for 8 months and is still good as new. My last cheapy crapped out in under a year so I went with this one as a replacement.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0012TDNAM/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1496439229&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=milligram+digital+scale&dpPl=1&dpID=41XAsyqMKqL&ref=plSrch

There's a professor at Temple Univerity in Philadelphia who wrote what is considered the first extensive text on Kratom as an "opioid from a non-opioid source" it's on Amazon here if you want to check it out, it seems pretty expensive though:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1482225182/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/192-5010898-7834929#

I've been meaning to read it myself, it's also the same guy that helped synthesize Tramadol.

I really like the the term "opioid from a non-opioid source" for some reason, lol.

I rarely bother making capsules anymore. I fell in love with oblate discs. Capsules take a lot of time to make and I have to take a bunch of them per dose. I can load up 3g into an oblate in less than a minute, I recommend everyone at least try it once. It was truly a game changer for me.

Piperine, found in simple black pepper, increases absorbion of curcumin by 2000%

I like it, its good for inflammation and hsd other long term promising health benefits.

I take it every day. Here's the one I get: Turmeric Curcumin with Bioperine 1500mg https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DBTFO98?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Invest in a good scale. They can be had online for less than $10 with accuracy down to .01g. Then keen a log of what and how much you take Also get several samplers from vendors on the daily vendor list and get several that you like and rotate strains it helps some with tolerance.
https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Digital-Scale-sensitivity/dp/B0012LOQUQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1494445828&sr=1-2&keywords=american+weigh+digital+scale

I know that a few people have already mentioned oblate bags, but I’m gonna give you an actual link. These things are AMAZING. You can put up to a half tablespoon in one pouch and swallow it without ever tasting a thing.

Fill it up, twist the top, and seal it with a tiny bit of spit.

oblate bags

I was debating between two scales, this and this but figured the latter had better reviews. I did see that thread, and it did help reinforce my decision. Plus, I can probably use it to meal prep in the future since I can weigh up to 500g vs 100g.

Nice! I debated on buying the bigger sample pack, but figured the small one was safer in case I didn't actually like kratom. It's too bad that you have to pay for shipping, but I got my package very quickly, so I can't complain.

There is no exact conversion because you are trying to go from volume to weight. That said, one level, unpacked tsp is approx 2.5g.

Here is approx conversion cc to tsp

1 cc ~0.20 tsp
1tsp (level, unpacked) ~2.5g
0.20 x 2.5=0.5g

Like I said, that's for level, unpacked tsp. If you're packing it in, then it's more (obviously).

tl;dr: No way to know for sure. Best to get a scale.

Here are three good inexpensive ones.

$8 (0.1) https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Scales-AWS-600-BLK-Nutrition/dp/B000O37TDO/ref=sr_1_5?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1540322695&sr=1-5&keywords=pocket+scale

$11 (0.01) https://www.amazon.com/Weigh-Gram-Digital-Jewelry-Kitchen/dp/B06Y61YW7S/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1540322695&sr=1-3-spons&keywords=pocket+scale&psc=1

$11 (0.01) https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Scales-BL-100-BLK-Digital/dp/B002SVLB8E/ref=sr_1_8?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1540322695&sr=1-8&keywords=pocket+scale

I'm holding off on purchasing my lab stuff all at once. I'm going to spend a month researching, and get a couple books on kratom, like https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/1482225182/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=all

I'm also going to find some books on organic chemistry. I've found that very specific equipment will be needed, and there are dozens of variations, so I don't want to spend hundreds on incomplete lab equipment by going off half cocked. Once I've got a solid understanding, I'll try finding gear for under $300, then post the shopping list here.

Sciguy52 , thanks for the assistance so far! I think if we put together a crowdfunding campaign to obtain a used gc-ms, this community could rise to the occasion. I'm going to haunt some other subs and forums, and see if I can't find a group of experts willing to offer suggestions and insights.

We should come up with informal surveys, use cases, and scour all the anecdotal information out there to try to provide a comprehensive scientific resource.

Herbal medicine is woefully under-represented in western culture. The internet is allowing good information to rapidly spread, but it's as hard as ever to provide authoritative sources. The kratom Wikipedia article is a great example of this, where ignorance has prevailed.

Oblate Discs - Japanese Edible Film, 200pcs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQOFLE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_FviXzbV6CDDAD
These absolutely saved me from capsules and not being able to T&W!!!! They're amazing, cheap and fast!

Another safe option here. Also, the stuff is pretty good for you too I mix it with my kratom shakes.

I bought dumb... I needed a millegram scale that would measure down to the thousandth of a mg for meds, so the first one I got was the AWS gemini-20 and that's been the scale I use 99.9% of the time. Problem is, it only has a 20g capacity, so trades/donations were ridiculously complicated. However, it's an extremely accurate scale, comes with calibration weights and the case has a magnetic flap and protects the scale very well. It's a complete system.

Then, I got the AWS ACP-200 and that better for trades and donations, and I thought it would adequate. But no... Most of what I buy is 250g minimum (I told you I bought stupid). This one, however, requires that you buy a separate calibration weight. And they're not cheap.

Which brings me to the AWS-600-BLK with a capacity of 600g. Of course, I also buy kilos, but I haven't addressed that one yet :-) This one requires a calibration weight also, which really offsets the relatively inexpensive buy-in for the scale.

If I was smart, I would have purchased the 20g and a 1000g version and been done with it. One suggestion I would make is to NOT buy the calibration weights that they list as accessories for the scales and go with this guy instead. It's a 1000g calibration weight set that will give you just about any weight imaginable for only $18.

I'm in the states XD

I'm just worried about wasting money on a product and it not working because it's not quality.

I tried turmeric or curcumin/piperine:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBA8DZF/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_04bdzbMYGHFQ0

.. and didn't notice any difference in my burn.

Then I tried agmatine:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PZ5WXWI/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_a8bdzbQTE3RF7

... and didn't notice much change in tolerance or potentiation but I did notice it was affecting my SSRI antidepressant almost boosting it so I stopped taking it.

I'm just trying to find something to give my burns that little extra kick when I need it. The only other supplements I've found are BSO and Cats Claw. Just wary of wasting more money but BSO seems promising based on the reviews I've read. I'm not worried about the taste I use to take oregano oil and that stuff was harsh lol.

Thanks again for the insight. I may just try the 1 oz version for $8.49 as a add on item next time I purchase something

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006ZF1GW/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdb_1bcdzbWJYG354

Found this one on Amazon for cheap.

It works great! I use it to mainly measure my Phenibut HCL and figured it would help measure the capsules of Kratom

So is cory to increase BA mostly or for its effects of its own? And I heard people use black pepper to increase BA is this similar to using cory for BA%? And how does this product look: https://www.amazon.com/Turmeric-Bioperine-Available-Standardized-Curcuminoids/dp/B01DBTFO98/ref=sr_1_4_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1485531136&sr=8-4&keywords=curcumin
It has black pepper/bioperine in it. And do they make one that contains cory? Thanks!

Here's a couple links for some cheap scales from Amazon.

Less than $9 for these two
https://www.amazon.com/Ascher-Digital-Back-lit-Display-Weighing/dp/B01IXHSPDK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1503954331&sr=8-4&keywords=pocket+scale

https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Scales-AWS-600-BLK-Nutrition/dp/B000O37TDO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1503954537&sr=8-3&keywords=pocket+scale


Or, here is a scale for $4.99. This one requires you to spend $25 on Amazon to get this deal. That's easy to do! Some items on Amazon are cheaper than walmart / the grocery store. So it doesn't have to be a frivolous purchase.
https://www.amazon.com/Weighmax-Classic-Digital-Pocket-Black/dp/B00YZ6D318/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1503954498&sr=8-1&keywords=pocket+scale&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011

Skip your Starbucks tomorrow, buy a scale ;)

Another thing that can be helpful is capsules that are already separated. These (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050PHIRI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) come in two bags, the top and bottom, and I put a silica packet in each once they were opened. Works great with the Capsule machine (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Capsule-Connections-The-Capsule-Machine-For-Filling-00/28489887)

I recently bought this Capsule Machine and 1000 capsules off of Amazon...and it does make it easier.

I weighed the capsules the other day and I was getting about 7g in 10 of them.

I usually take about 3-4 capsules and that is about 2-3ish grams. It comes with a little tool that packs it, and I usually do it about three times and ta-da!
It also makes 24 at a time which is awesome.

I buy mine online from Amazon. I get like 1000 for $13.00 I also bought a capsule maker that is very helpful. I couldn't stand the taste of the tea. If you ever run out and need some fast you can go to a vitamin store they sell them. I get size 00 they are larger and hold more.

Try oblate discs. They're better than capsules because they dissolve fully and much quicker. You wrap your kratom dose in one, dip the part holding the kratom in water (don't get water on the part you're holding or it will fall apart), and then swallow it with water. Works like a charm!
https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/AMIR-Back-Lit-Accuracy-Stainless-Batteries/dp/B01HCKQG7G/ref=lp_289787_1_10/138-3694717-0321953?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1510158410&sr=1-10

11 bucks free shipping. Its a very accurate one, very happy with this

Get some variation on this one

The buttons are covered so they won't gunk up. The backlighting is very useful. The way it fold up makes it less likely to screw up the delicate weighing mechanism. It's less than $10. You can get it in 0.1g or even 0.01 accuracy. 0.1g is good enough for kratom. Batteries last a long time. I bet a large number of people here use this exact scale. Most digital pocket scales are very similar to this in terms of price and features, but this one seems to hit a homerun and has probably weighed out more ahem supplements than any other lol.

How about something like this? They're little edible film things that I've heard people use. Ordered some for myself as an alternative to parachuting like I usually do for supplements/nootropics.

edit: Exactly like this.

> I'm getting scared of GI bleeding

I don't blame you.


>I'd been planning to start 1 tsp, as that's explained to be about 2.5 grams

Get a scale That is a very accurate one.

Start keeping track of your doses in grams/milligrams. Keep notes on what strains have what kind of effect on you and how long they last.

You are going to want to keep your tolerance low and you wont be able to do this properly if you don't get a scale, time your doses, etc. You are going to want to stay ahead of this plant.

> Should I adjust this dosage to account for the fact that I am physically dependent on the tramadol?

This is going to take some trial and error. Both with differing strains and quantities. I suggest you get a sampler.

I see you got a sample of sorts from SoCal. That is good. Others I would suggest as well for samplers from Kratom-Kings, Gaia, Socal, Motrark, Heraldom.

I highly suggest you check out Hill Country Kratom talk to Dominic and get some of his Red Vein. This is the GOLD standard for me so far, though its not on the cheap side. Someone else mentioned BotanicalKratom? I haven't had the chance to try them so I cannot give a recommendation.

I am also a pain sufferer and take opiates while I'm not using Kratom(for tolerance breaks).

Do some research and find some good potentiates. PM me if you want my line up.

All in all the best advice I can give you is do lots and lots of research. Keep track of your usage. Find what works for you.

Peace and Freedom, KOG

There have been some recommendations on this subreddit for hot water. I've taken it a step further and after dissolving it in the water, I add lemonade and some raspberry flavoring. It makes it way more tolerable. My dose today even tasted good!

I have Red Thai, Gold Bali, and Purple 8-1 so I'll weigh some packed level teaspoons for you when I get home to gauge your dose. Definitely get a gram scale though, makes a world of difference. I have these two:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06W5VXN53/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000O37TDO/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yeah I agree a scale is a good investment if you take kratom or use powdered supplements. I bought this one for $8.78.

Nice, will try it out. On some of the reviews on Amazon people stated they use it for kratom. haha I wasn't expecting to see that.

https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE

Here's a good one. Accurate to two decimal places. And it has an attached lid. And it's only $10 plus shipping (unless you have Amazon Prime).

American Weigh Digital Scale, 100g [0.01g sensitivity] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0012LOQUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_WhZmzbVM6C6M4

PS: There's two options for that listing. One is the scale only, the other one is the scale with a calibration weight. It's only $15, and the weight is a good thing to have on-hand just in case.

https://www.amazon.com/Pip-Oblate-Bag-Type-Japanese/dp/B000FQOFLO, buy some of these. Put a dose or two for the day in them , and carry them in an m$m minis container. It's easier to take than toss or wash , swallow in bathroom or wherever. Like swallowing food. And won't leave green residue all over your mouth. They are tricky to get used to , but quite nice for work, or having to go places with people for a long amount of time.

I bought this, but I only use it for Kratom (so far). It doesn't have as much of a capacity (100g VS the 8000g one you linked), but its accuracy is 0.01g for precise dosing and it's super inexpensive and small:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012LOQUQ/

Nah. Maybe a vitamin store. I use Amazon or swanson.com. It's probably cheaper online. Just makes sure it's chelated. Something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BD0RT0/ref=psdcmw_3774411_t1_B00S1RUSWE

You can also use oblate discs. Safer than parachuting, but the same thing, pretty much.

Have you seen the basically rice paper wrappers on Amazon?
These?

They're a great option between caps and toss 'n' wash.

Try these. Very easy and fast to pack and they go down easy. They are the quickest way to hit your system after toss n washing.

Pip Oblate Bag Type - Japanese Edible Film, 50pcs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQOFLO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nISzzbSS6S3VF

I "parachute" the kratom using those oblate discs that you can find on Amazon. Super easy, and absolutely no taste to deal with.

Oblate Discs - Japanese Edible Film, 200pcs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQOFLE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_iMDJDb64JBJYH

Here you go friend. You're welcome.

Amazon.com : Oblate Discs - Japanese Edible Film, 200pcs

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE&ved=2ahUKEwjWytWB6KjeAhXLnuAKHd2aAIoQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1aVzzKLU5PpwcRYbVBIm0G

Edit: these are way better than capsules because they dissolve almost instantly. Just long enough for you to make a parachute and gulp down with a beverage of your choice. Way better bioavailability than caps too IMO. Takes a little bit of practice but you will never t&w again.

Get some oblate discs cheap and effective and better for your GI tract than parachuting with TP

Amazon is where I got mine here

When I bought it, it was $9 now it is $7.04. I love it, small, travel size.

Amazon, Herb Affair has the best quality capsules IMO. They have gelatin and veg caps.


https://www.herbaffair.com/gelatin-capsules-size-00/



https://www.amazon.com/Herb-Affair-Clear-Gelatin-Capsules/dp/B003TOWT80?th=1

These are the capsules: Turmeric Curcumin with Bioperine 1500mg. Highest Potency Available. Premium Pain Relief & Joint Support with 95% Standardized Curcuminoids. Non-GMO, Gluten Free Turmeric Capsules with Black Pepper https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DBTFO98/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_3dm0AbE5RSGYV

Decent price.

I just bought oblate discs from Amazon and started to use them instead of the ol' toss and wash. They work awesome if you can manage to swallow decently large pills.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000FQOFLE/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_gLoYBbY2V37CM

Might try calm. I add it to some tea or just hot water. It's really relaxing stuff

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BPUY3W0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1486256596&sr=8-1&keywords=calm

FYI u/jimmy_russula I thought of you when I copied the link on amazon....if you look in the middle, the word boof is hidden in there lol! Look: Oblate Discs - Japanese Edible Film, 200pcs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQOFLE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_wLMwiiyb4hb1s

There are studies showing the opposite, how it works as an anti-inflammatory agent, perhaps you could look into that to see how effective they found it was, I would recommend reading this book for an in depth analysis and links to further sources.


Chapter 20 of the book concludes, “many strides . . .have been made . . . regarding its potential therapeutic uses as an analgesic, anti-inflammatory agent, and muscle relaxant."

Here, use these instead https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE

Here's how to use them: https://youtu.be/90Vyxil7WBw?t=10s

They are all natural and made out of tapioca starch, so probably better for you than chemically bleached toilet paper..

Cheers

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SC3LLS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_abZ4ybJMVBGZC

You need a scale more like this, it's similar to the one that I use. The one that you have is a kitchen scale, and isn't as sensitive and isn't particularly a scale for measuring milligrams.

It's worth the money to get one like the link I posted.

Also if you use a spoon or something, you can set it on the scale before turning it on.. And it will calibrate so that the spoon measures at 0, so you can scoop some Kratom on the spoon and set it on the scale and it will act as though the spoon isn't a factor in the total weight. That way you won't need to make such a mess when measuring😜

I would just purchase powder from a vendor of your choice, then get these and something like this It takes a little time but it's way more cost effective than buying pre made caps. The empty caps I linked are size 00 which will hold about .5g each but you can go the next size up (000) and those hold about 1g each iirc.

Edit- words

Kratom absolutely can constipate you depending on the dose, your body's chemistry, etc. Drinking more water is almost always advisable under any circumstance.

As for magnesium, look for magnesium glycinate, as its one of the more absorbable types of magnesium. Here's a great brand: https://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-Absorption-Magnesium-Glycinate/dp/B000BD0RT0/ref=sr_1_4?crid=91UGU210WCSQ&keywords=doctors+best+magnesium&qid=1574886461&sprefix=doctors+best+man%2Caps%2C412&sr=8-4

Welcome! Here's a couple products I was recommended to get you started

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GW5NX9C/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1500905670&sr=8-2&keywords=magnesium+bulk+supplements

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000BD0RT0/ref=mp_s_a_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1500905622&sr=8-3&keywords=magnesium+chelate

Pip Oblate Bag Type - Japanese Edible Film, 50pcs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQOFLO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_AGaFAbA9KRJ6K

They also have cheaper flat circles that are more parachute like versus bags but they are out of stock.

Ever had the Japanese candy botan with the edible rice paper? This is similar to that. I toss and wash because these make me nervous that they'll rip open. It's also hard to swallow IMO. I'd love if someone chimed in on tips to use these. I put 1/2 tsp in a bag so it shouldn't be overfilled.

Why not get some Japanese edible film? Same thing but safe and they have flavors! And it's cheap!

Edit- https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE

I asked a pretty similar question to this on here a week or two ago and someone recommended this scale to me that I ended up buying!

American Weigh Digital Scale, 100g [0.01g sensitivity] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0012LOQUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_0YhtybH05BC49

I highly recommend this scale
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-0-01g-Digital-Scale/dp/B0012LOQUQ

its only 12 bucks and comes in handy for lots of thing (i use mine for measuring small amounts for cooking with things like salt, baking powder, TG, sodium citrate, etc)

I got this scale and I love it. It was so cheap that I bought a second for backup.

https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Digital-Scale-sensitivity/dp/B0012LOQUQ/ref=lp_678508011_1_4?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1478464315&sr=1-4

And yeah, the volume differences resulting from the different grinds can lead to differing densities. But in general one teaspoon of ANY grind other than gigantic blocky chunks should weigh somewhere between 2.3 and 2.7g, approximately...assuming that the substance is indeed kratom lol.

Best place would be one of these 3.

https://www.amazon.com/BulkSupplements-Agmatine-Sulfate-Powder-grams/dp/B00PZ5WXWI/

https://www.amazon.com/Nutricost-Agmatine-100-Grams-Servings/dp/B00MY9BZHC/

https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Ingredients-Agmatine-Sulfate-Powder/dp/B01MSJZ823/

Re: dose:

https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/6gevvs/agmatine_same_time_as_kratom_dose_or_night_before/

I purchased this one a few days ago, it works great, batteries included $11 bucks. Its also handy in the kitchen for cooking/measuring

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https://www.amazon.com/High-precision-Multifunctional-Back-Lit-Features-Stainless/dp/B01HCKQG7G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1500066034&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=digital+scale+500g&psc=1

I use this one and it works great. Simple and inexpensive.

This one works great for kratom level of accuracy (0.01g). It's around $10

https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Digital-Scale-sensitivity/dp/B0012LOQUQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1502111243&sr=8-7&keywords=digital+scale

These oblate discs are the best. They completely dissolve. don't try to do more than 2g per disc, or you risk it getting stuck in your throat. If that happens, you chug water until you get it to dissolve, or you run out of breath and cough it out.

Muuuccchh easier than doing a toss and wash, IMO.

https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1500189606&sr=8-1&keywords=oblate+discs

I personally prefer to use oblate bags.

I put about 4 grams in each and down them kind of like raw oysters. It's not for everyone but works better than T&W for me.

I'd get the [gemini] (https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498174849&sr=8-1&keywords=gemini+scale) instead, it's an absolutely fantastic scale.

this is what happens when you throw dry powder down your throat. consider looking into oblate disc bags. they work wonderful
https://www.amazon.com/Pip-Oblate-Bag-Type-Japanese/dp/B000FQOFLO

This is the one that I have. $9 and has worked just fine. I put the little cup from a mouthwash bottle on the scale, tare it to zero, then scoop into the cup with a spoon.

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When you get one, you can make sure it's accurate by weighing a nickel ($.05). It should weigh 5g if I recall correctly.

I, along with some of the people I've traded with, use this $12 scale from Amazon. We are all happy with it. It measures in hundredths of a gram, and has a count function for capsules or what not.

Edit: typo done=some

I bought mine on Amazon, brand name "bulk supplements". Hope this helps.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PZ5WXWI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_uilfAb4B0HNE5

I bought a scale for 10 dollars on amazon. I put a glass on. Zero out the glass. Then put an exact amount of grams into my drink for Kratom. I would recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O37TDO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm not Op (obviously) but i may be able to help,

Nootropics Depot: Powder |
Capsules


Bulk Supplements: Powder

Natural Vitality Natural Calm Magnesium Anti Stress, Organic, Raspberry Lemon, 16 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BPUY3W0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gidqzbC6HND8X

They sell real paper you can consume like that on amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE

Oblate pouches are your friend

https://smile.amazon.com/Pip-Oblate-Bag-Type-Japanese/dp/B000FQOFLO

Or you can make it into a tea. I can’t stomach it on its own either.

link for the most efficacy / best bang for the buck? love this brand - but a kilo is a helluva lot

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000FQOFLE/ref=sxts_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1518080439&sr=1

Roll them into a cone then fill it with kratom and swallow. You can get up to 7 grams in one if you roll the cone just right. Only roll as much as you can swallow though sonyoubdont choke. The benefit is that it dissolves immediately it your stomach and hits a lot quicker but you don't have to taste it like toss and wash

Oblate disks.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000FQOFLE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1522722764&sr=8-1&keywords=oblate+discs&dpPl=1&dpID=51xHSKOKeFL&ref=plSrch
You’re welcome

Yes! Oblate Discs

Not that I’ve seen, readily available on amazon though! Have to get lucky with Prime, not always fast shipping. There are also Oblate pouches that hold more, but they’re more expensive and I don’t think I’d want to swallow more than 3.5g at a time

Oblate Discs

Pip Oblate Bag Type - Japanese Edible Film, 50pcs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FQOFLO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_agf6e34rJCXrB

Is much better than toss and wash

AWS is good

https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/66rttj/japanese_oblate_discs_edible_film_for_parachuting/

Lots more links there. Read the comments, helpful info. You need to swallow quickly because they dissolve.

Also, https://www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs/dp/B000FQOFLE

If you are a "buy it for life" type, I suggest buying one of these instead https://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM

It is the tried and true affordable electronic scale

Capsule Connection 1000 Bulk Wholesale Empty Clear Gelatin Capsules, "00" size, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00428B6X6?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf


100 Holes (00#) Capsule Holder With Tamper for Size 00 capsules Holding Tray Pill Dispensers & Reminders https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0781D9QYX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_PPtYAbRCDTK3F


Just buy your favorite kratom. Put on Netflix and make some capsules until u finish the bag and u no longer have to deal with eating kratom. And you can weigh one capsule and figure out how much u are taking at a time. Cherrs