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u/aaaadam · 2 pointsr/norsk

Copy and pasted from a comment I posted on a similar question.

When I first started I thought I probably wouldn't be speaking so much so I'll concentrate more on writing and reading. If there was one thing I wish I did more it would have to be actively seeking out speaking partners or finding Norwegian friends on the internet. Reading and writing is picked up pretty quickly but speaking and listening with real Norwegian people is a whole other thing. I'ts understanding the dialects and learning the slang that really brings you up the next level and you'll be at a real disadvantage if you travel to Norway after say a year of focusing just on writing and you'll find yourself wondering why you can't understand anything anyone is saying. Anyway rant over! :D

I used Lang-8 for writing and if you start using it early on it can be fun to look back on sort of like a log of your writing progress.

As for resources, personally I used the Teach Yourself Course while also listening to the Pimsleur Norwegian audio lessons.

The Teach Yourself Book which I used doesn't get the most amazing feedback on here I don't think but for me if was perfect as a beginner who had just listened to a few Pimsleur audio lessons and read some stuff on the internet. I could feel myself improving at a pretty rapid rate, I remember being half way through the book and thinking that i could have a half decent conversation with a norwegian person. So yeah for a start it worked great for me.

I followed that book up with the Norwegian Verbs and Essentials of Grammar, this book was mainly to give the information that i felt the TY course was lacking in. I ended up just picking out the things I needed to know and then it went on the shelf without actually being fully read. However I know it's a good book as it gets recommended quite alot in this subreddit.

Norwegian on the Web is also a pretty good well structured resource however it was something I found when I was coming towards the end of my studies so didn't use it that much. Also the case with the Norwegian Duolingo although I should probably still use this as it's a good fun way to learn new vocabulary.

The last thing i'll say is that if you really want to make some good progress and you find yourself slacking just try and do one thing everyday related to Norwegian. It doesn't really matter what it is, could be listening to an audio clip, reading the newspaper, a book, online course, whatever, even if it's just for 15 minutes it's better than nothing and it all adds up to helping you on your way.

Good Luck! :D

P.s Norway is awesome!

u/NorwegianGlaswegian · 7 pointsr/norsk

It takes time to get your brain tuned in. Some suggestions:

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  1. Try a VPN service, and watch a lot of stuff from NRKs web TV service. Can also switch on subs and read the whole transcript independently.

  2. Look for podcasts in Norwegian on topics you are into, doesn't matter if you don't catch it all, just concentrate and keep doing your studies. You will begin to pick up more and more of what is going on, as long as the dialect is familiar, at least.

  3. Read lots of articles in Norwegian, both news stuff, and content about stuff you are into.

  4. Check out the excellent, if tricky to install and initially get used to program "Learning With Texts": http://lwt.sourceforge.net/ (A lot to take in, but so worth it, make sure to read up on setting up your own dictionaries)

  5. Set up your dictionary using www.ordnett.no and use the username oslo2 and password 2oslo and change the flag next to the search field to the UK one for English results first.

  6. I highly recommend the book Naiv. Super. by Erlend Loe. You can get it in Englsh translation as well, though the very very occasional sentence gets dropped for some reason.

  7. If you want the easiet to read version of Naiv. Super. then check out the "nels norsk-engelsk lesebok serie version: https://www.amazon.com/Naiv-Super-Nelsbok-1-Norwegian/dp/0976307200

    If you can, try and track down the audiobook or "lydbok" version to listen to along with it. Reading novels along with the accompanying audiobook can help you get used to parsing the sounds of Norwegian, The nels version has translations for more difficult words and idiomatic language in the margins, along with help with some prepositional phrases. I am finding it to be excellent, but the translations are very much based on the context of the line. Sometimes you might want to look up a word on ordnett to get more synonyms.



    I have found listening to as much Norwegian as possible while learning vocabulary in context very valuable. And with a novel like Niav. Super. which has quite simple sentences, it is easy to memorise some sentences to help nail down a certain word or phrase and you get to see it in a greater context. Hope this helps and gives you some ideas.

    Edit: Tidied up a couple of things.
u/free_heeler · 2 pointsr/norsk

I have a similar approach to zajczex's. I also use Anki but with my own decks (in the beginning). I got the book "Beginner's Norwegian", which comes with audio CDs. I ripped the CDs and saved each word from the vocabulary lists as separate MP3s, so that I could add them to my Anki decks for each vocab (this took quite a while, but worth it I think).

I find having the audio is incredibly helpful, especially with a language like Norwegian. Other things that help me learn and you may want to try out are:

  • Adding a picture when possible, or even having a picture instead of the english word (to help you associate the norwegian word with what it actually refers to, and not to its english translation)
  • Colour-coding nouns. Masculine nouns are written in blue, feminine in red and neuter in green. That way, I memorise the articles much better, as I often think of the colour of the word as well as its article.

    Now that I've finished the book, I have started using Anki shared decks and importing memrise decks to Anki using this tool to extend my vocabulary.

    I'd like to watch Norwegian-language movies with subtitles, but those are hard to find -- so if anyone has tips, please share :)
u/omgrichie · 1 pointr/norsk


I am about halfway through the Duolingo course right now, which I LOVE. It is so well designed and I am seeing huge improvements already and can recall a lot of what I've learned. I am supplementing with "Norsk, nordmenn og Norge", which I haven't used too much yet, but I am enjoying as well. What are some good children/teen novels that I could start to read after I finish my beginning courses? I do not mind having to translate some since it will strengthen my vocab and hopefully I'll be able to recall okay by the end of the book. I want something more advance than a kid's little book, more of a young reader's novel. Any suggestions? I have this book on my list but would love help finding others (unfortunately Amazon doesn't have too many options): http://www.amazon.com/dp/8299968003/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=242RS6W9R88E9&coliid=I1AT5LPZWLYCDP

u/iampaulh · 1 pointr/norsk

Thanks for this, I'd never heard of the Anki software before so will be checking it out for sure. Pity about the verb conjugation deck, but I'm sure the other you linked will be a great help.

I started off using BYKI; it's free on the web, or a paid desktop app. http://www.byki.com/category/norwegian

Naiv. Super - En Norsk-engelsk Lesebok, was pretty good, once you have some understanding of Norwegian. It has some of the more difficult words/phases translated in the margin. http://www.amazon.com/Naiv-Super-En-Norsk-engelsk-Lesebok/dp/0976307200

u/lubutu · 3 pointsr/norsk

First of all, you'll find that there are two different writing standards for Norwegian, Bokmål and Nynorsk. You will almost certainly want to learn Bokmål, the most common. There are also a wide range of regional dialects; you will almost certainly want to learn Standard Østnorsk. It's nothing to worry about, as Bokmål and Østnorsk are almost always the ones taught to foreigners, but do be aware that you will find Norwegian that doesn't conform to what you've learnt.

As for somewhere to start, I'd suggest Norwegian on the Web, a basic introductory course covering grammar, pronunciation, and vocabulary, built up little by little in each of ten chapters. To have a minimal understanding of pronunciation you will need to read up to at least chapter 6; for grammar at least chapter 8.

I know you say you can't really sink money into it, but in my opinion the most valuable book, if you were to buy one, is Norwegian: An Essential Grammar. Most of your Norwegian learning can be done on the Internet, but I've not really found another decent reference for more complex Norwegian grammar. That can wait, though.

You'll probably also be recommended Teach Yourself Norwegian at some point, but in my honest opinion I don't think that's a particularly good book, especially considering the free courses you can find online. Just make sure to use a course from a reputable source — there are guides written by non-natives that are misleading or just plain wrong.

Once you get past the level expected for courses, you can try having a go with actual Norwegian text and speech, perhaps beginning with resources for people who are still learning Norwegian, like Klar Tale and SkoleTV.

Lykke til!

u/Greylight02 · 2 pointsr/norsk

Get a good dictionary first. I got this Norwegian dictionary off of amazon. It has both Norwegian to English and English to Norwegian which is super helpful. If you’re really serious about teaching yourself, I would recommend downloading Anki. It’s a free flash card software for your computer but it’s special because the frequency of when it shows you certain words is based on how well you know them. It maximizes learning and retention with the least amount of studying. From there you can search on their website for pre made language decks (there are a few Norwegian decks) or you can make your own. I’m currently making my own. Lastly, consume as much Norwegian content as you possibly can. The more content you are consuming, the more familiar and language will become. You will start to notice certain words, become familiar with how the language sounds, and as you learn more vocab you can use this content to challenge yourself more and more.

TLDR:

  1. Get a dictionary (this will be your main resource)
  2. Download Anki (for acquiring and retaining words)
  3. Consume lots of Norwegian content (become more polished and challenge yourself)
u/Alphabet_Qi · 4 pointsr/norsk

I agree on the Pimsleur - it has been the best one for forcing me to open my mouth and answer the danged recording.

The Norwords website provides free audio for their textbooks Sett i Gang I and Sett I Gang II and I really like it. I made CDs and just put them on repeat in the car. It is not the question and respond format, but I like the lists, the conversations, just hearing the overall sounds repeated...
I would purchase the texts, except they are crazy expensive used on Amazon.

Teach Yourself Norwegian Conversation is another one like Pimsleur that asks you to talk back, but it may be too simple for you.

(There are three CDs and the level by the last lesson is not very complex: The speakers are saying goodbye at an airport shuttle: "Yes. Yes, it is the airport bus. Here is your rucksack. Do you have your aeroplane ticket? Yes, I have everything. I shall miss you. It isn't long until September.")

I don't love it, but it is not terrible. It makes me impatient for two trivial reasons: A.) There is a perky musical phrase that repeats at the beginning of each lesson and it drives me batty. And B.) the speakers speak slowwwly, and it feels unnatural. But if it helps to get you talking, then so what, right?

Edit: added link.

u/79CetiB · 3 pointsr/norsk

For language learning methods in general, I recommend you read Fluent Forever by Gabriel Wyner. I'm following pretty much all that he recommends[] for my Norwegian study, and I've found it to be great so far. I only started about a month ago, however, so take that for what it's worth.

 

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] His method boils down to:

  1. Learn pronunciation.
  2. Don't translate.
  3. Use spaced repetition systems.

     

    edit: formatting
u/mintprincess · 3 pointsr/norsk

I've been recommended the following book by a fair amount of people before I started formally taking Norwegian, and we actually use it in my Norwegian classes at school; you might find it useful to check out :) It helps with the grammar stuff that Duolingo can't really teach you.

http://www.amazon.com/Norwegian-Verbs-And-Essentials-Grammar/dp/084428596X

u/Voctus · 3 pointsr/norsk

Naiv Super - Erlend Loe

This version has some of the vocab translated into English on the sides which makes it perfect for a beginner.

Edit: Erland > Erlend

u/dwchandler · 5 pointsr/norsk

Keep up with Pimsleur! Finish it. Repeat anything that you stumbled on.

Obtain and read Norwegian: An Essential Grammar. Very clear explanations with example sentences comparing and contrasting.

Vocab with Anki, Memrise, or some other SRS.

Make a study plan and stick to it. Don't let the gamification of an SRS fool you into thinking you're learning a language when you're just learning isolated vocabulary words.

Watch any videos in Norwegian that you can find. Netflix has some, including their own silly but entertaining Lillyhammer series. I recently linked some YouTube videos from TV2 for school children. They also made videos for adult immigrants, but...they...enunciate...each...word and you'll get better listening practice from the children's videos.

u/LePouletMignon · 2 pointsr/norsk

There is nothing wrong with jeg. Even in Icelandic, ég is pronounced similarly to the Eastern Norwegian jæij, though with no diphtong as far as I'm aware.

Nynorsk can be learned if you reach around A2 in bokmål and then move on to use a Nynorsk dictionary + a Nynorsk learning book. You can also do it the hard way and start by purchasing a dictionary with grammatical explanations, use media resources and read children's books. You also have simple online courses which require little proficiency in Norwegian. This one for example. When you're ready, you can buy Nynorsk grammar books. If you want to check if a word can be used, use Ordboka.

Other than that, Nynorsk is indeed the better written standard. It is Norwegian and not Dano-Norwegian. Send me a message if there's anything else you want to know about Nynorsk or if you just need help.

Venleg helsing.

u/sseager · 3 pointsr/norsk

These two sentences mean the exact same thing, and they absolutely are both standard Norwegian, although you would definitely hear the second one being used the most in spoken Norwegian.

 

As for commas, the first one should indeed have a comma before for as it is a coordinating conjunction (as are og and men, among others), although there should be no comma in front of the fordi in the second sentence, as it is a subordinating conjunction. I suggest you go read up on the differences coordinating and subordinating conjunctions (including subordinating clauses).

 

If you're willing to spend a bit of money, two good books I would recommend are Norwegian: An Essential Grammar or Norsk grammatikk.

u/LineNy · 5 pointsr/norsk

I learned Norwegian some years ago and often bought books when I was in Norway on holiday. But books are very expensive as the amount of the printed books is low compared to other countries with more residents.

Even if I like real books and even if I do not like e-book readers I finally bought an e-book reader.

At the Norwegian online bookstores I opened an account and bought ebooks. These are cheaper than the printed ones and of course without shipping fees.
Also Amazon has a lot of „old“ norwegian ebooks from Henrik Ibsen and Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson for less than 2 dollars.
For example:
Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson - Synnove Solbakken

So after 4-5 ebooks I saved the money the ebookreader costs.

u/_KarlestonChew_ · 9 pointsr/norsk

I've been using the Mystery of Nils from Skapago. Each chapter starts with a part of the story then moves onto grammar explanations and then exercises on those new grammar topics. It's pretty concise and easy to sit down and complete a chapter and it's exercises in one sitting.

Part one can be found on amazon.

u/CaoCaoLaugh · 3 pointsr/norsk

Learning myself and just ordered "Mystery of Nils"

It's a 2 part series which helps you learn via story (first part is English/Norwegian then 2nd book is only Norwegian)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3945174007/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=3945174007&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwskapagoeu-20&linkId=3S6JZHNZDJWPBUIL

Got it off Amazon for ~$33, haven't received it yet; but most reviews of the book (not limited to Amazon) are very good.

u/syringemaster420 · 3 pointsr/norsk

Not too sure about Michel Thomas tbh.

For myself, I've just progressed through Memrise A1 course: http://memrise.com/course/189711/a1-beginner-norwegian-with-audio/ and then onto lots of vocab, then I read this: https://www.amazon.com/Norwegian-Verbs-Essentials-Grammar-Louis/dp/084428596X and from there I just watch Norwegian TV shows and stuff, I think I'm at about a B1 level

Anyway, we have a cool Discord chat group running 24/7 at the moment, you will get instant responses about that book pretty much from other people that maybe know more than I do haha

Here it is: https://discordapp.com/channels/202189706383982605/202189706383982605

Feel free to come by and introduce yourself, we talk Norwegian lots but also talk English just as much

u/TheJuxt · 1 pointr/norsk

I have this one. It's pocket sized and seems comprehensive enough for most (day to day speech) needs. I really would recommend looking at the Google Translate app. You can download dictionaries for offline use too and it has verbs conjugated in all tenses.

I am learning too and think I am approaching the lower end of intermediate. If you think you'd benefit from a Skype penpal kind of thing, I'd be up for that!

u/faceofme · 2 pointsr/norsk

I used Complete Norwegian (Margaretha Danbolt-Simons), it assumes you know nothing and gets you up to conversation fluency pretty quickly. It's just been updated.

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Norwegian-Two-Audio-CDs/dp/1444195042/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1393938217&sr=1-1&keywords=complete+norwegian

http://radio.nrk.no/ for listening to the radio

u/uncr3ative · 3 pointsr/norsk

Story form for learning Norwegian: The Mystery of Nils. Part 1 - Norwegian Course for Beginners. Learn Norwegian - Enjoy the Story. https://www.amazon.com/dp/3945174007/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_VRgyDbEDD5E7A

u/MoarPewPewPlz · 1 pointr/norsk

I have this book without CD. It's still good.

u/KvalitetstidEnsam · 1 pointr/norsk

I recommend this book, it has done wonders for me.

Also, Duolingo does explain the grammar (not very extensively, admittedly), are you reading the blurbs each skill has?

u/m_jansen · 1 pointr/norsk

Naiv Super
This version is made for Norwegian language learners. There is a glossary in the margins with the most difficult words.
https://www.amazon.com/Naiv-Super-Nelsbok-1-Norwegian/dp/0976307200/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1481048839&sr=8-4&keywords=erlend+loe