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May I ask why you want one that folds and is NOT two separate pieces?

Tables that fold in half and share 4 wheels between the weight of the entire table are (on average) taller when folded up and significantly heavier (since you are supporting both table tops) making them much harder to move. Just curious why you would want both of those disadvantages?

If you decide to consider a 2 piece I just purchased this STIGA off Amazon and am extremely pleased with it as a rec table for my house.

It is not a high end table but it bounces well, looks nice, is blue, took me 15 minutes to put together, and comes with squeeze clamps like you asked.

You don't need to spend a grand most likely unless you are used to playing on high end tables and really know what you are talking about... but since you are asking these questions... I would argue the STIGA is probably fine for your house.

Hope you don't take too much offense to my comment. Happy shopping and enjoy whatever you end up getting!

I'd be worried that thing would damage the balls. I made my own for about $15 that looks similar to the My Ping Pong Buddy. I remember different versions of them being sold closer to $50-75 several years ago but I see they're down to $45.

I just bought the cheapest painters pole I could find for around $8, which was probably the most expensive part.

You can find the nets on certain kinds of oranges at the grocery store. Be careful though, you want the stiffer and thicker netting. I'd recommend using a double layer too.

I do wish mine had a telescoping pole like this.

And a cheap badminton set can be purchased at Walmart (or elsewhere) for around $5-6. Although I did have a couple of the cheaper ones break on me after several sessions of use, so I'd maybe invest in slightly thicker and more durable badminton set. You'll need to bend the handle but be careful not to kink it. Applying some heat will help.

And finally the most tedious part is stringing it. I've reused the badminton strings but fishing line will be stronger.

Oh, also, I just taped the pole to the badminton handle, but I'm sure there's a nicer way I could have done it. Maybe with a PVC coupler or something you could find in the painter's section for coupling poles together.

It may not be worth the time and effort, since they're only about $45 these days, but my homemade one (after repairing it 2 or 3 times) IS still working well.

Table tennis is more than just technique. It's a game of chess, and there are many ways to beating your opponent.

Just because you're "dinking" the ball over the table for a win doesn't mean you're a beginner.

Just because you can loop and drive well doesn't make you a better player either...

You need to know how to put away your opponent; so get those preconceived judgement thoughts out of your head. Thoughts like that will indeed ruin your mental game in a heart beat..

Some advice I can shed on your serving; practice getting yourself into the ready position after you serve the ball; get to the point that it's muscle memory and you don't even think about it.

You seem like you have quite a few serves, so with each serve you have, you must know every possible return that could happen on each of your serves and how to capitalize on the return ball. So think about every possible return and find a training partner and just practice service with them. Do it over and over until it's second nature.

Also for now; limit yourself to 2-4 serves max. Learn them inside and out, learn how to change the amount of spin you put on the ball. Learn to disguise the serve to look like the same serve but produces a different spin/amount of spin. Then branch off from there.

I advise you to check out this book ,"Table Tennis Tactics for Thinkers" by Larry Hodges it helped me out a great deal!

Best of luck.

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There's nothing wrong with a midrange table. Even really cheap ones will work, but I'd only go that route if you're still testing the waters or you know you're going to replace it. I'll second /u/RussianandGunnin's advice on checking Craiglist.

Robots

I own the Robo-Pong 2040. It's... alright. The Newgy products I've used are perfunctory if not a bit clunky. Upgrading to the 2050 might be a bit better, with the ability to do programmable drills (think Falconberg), but over time my view on robots has become less sanguine. I'm curious if the high(er) tech Chinese robots are really any more useful, but they're cost prohibitive in terms of personal investment.

Robots are alright for helping practice what you've learned, but they aren't teachers. It makes the most sense to put in some robo-practice time once you're sure your form is reasonable. For that you'll need a coach or serious club player who will give you unvarnished feedback.

If practicing by yourself is predominately what your schedule allows for, there are worse things you can do with your time than spend it with a TT robot. Robots have a narrow range of use. Make sure you're ok with that before you burn serious dollars on one.

If you do end up getting one, don't cheap out: buy a gross of robo balls, and a pick up net. Newgy robots come with a few balls, but at a normal rate of fire you'll blow through those. A robot with 20~40 balls makes for an underwhelming experience. You'll spend 10 times more time picking up balls than you will hitting them.

Killerspin is not the generally recommended brand. While they do makes OK tables, their rackets are not very popular.

I've personally used JET800 and am very disappointed by it. I like my $30 setup from aliexpress a lot better.

If you like them and want to buy from them sure, but please note that you can get a professional setup for the price you're about to play to Killerspin.

While you may feel tempted to buy a premade just to get it done, you should probably go custom because you will be getting much better stuff at a cheaper price, and note that if you buy both rubbers and the blade from the same shop they will assemble it for you.

If you don't want to overthink it, here is what this reddit recommends:

(1) If you really insist on buying a premade, check out Palio Master. You'll be getting a premade with a real quality rubber on it.

(2) If you are in the US check Colestt. Any combo on the page is good.

(3) If you are in the US,prefer European brands, and really want to spend some $, check this combo

(4) Otherwise, see other big retailers such as Megaspin or tabletennis11.

Hello,


I was hoping to get some suggestions in purchasing a table. Essentially I'm trying to find one that isn't too cheap, but isn't absurdly expensive. This is mainly for recreational use in the garage with some friends, but I'd still like one that's pretty good. I was taking a look at this one, any other recommendations?


https://www.amazon.com/STIGA-Advantage-Indoor-Table-Tennis/dp/B01JMTDZ5Q/ref=zg_bs_3419501_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=JSDQ4YSXWSGXKSDJV3PY

I'm a little confused as to whether it has 2 carbon layers myself, although it states it's an all wood blade if you look at the picture from the amazon site I bought it on, you can see the black layers. If not carbon, what are they? The paddle they sent me also has a mauve/purple sponge on the black rubber and a slightly thinner (guessing 2mm) thick yellow sponge on the slower red rubber side. Not shown or mentioned in the sales blurb.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Palio-Expert-Table-Tennis-Case/dp/B016BQTCFU/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XGJ087KB5DM05YESQF0M

Have you ever played with one? Or maybe you got taken-in like me, by its sales/marketing pitch. I've played over 500hrs with it over the space of around 30mnths, tried many other paddles and I can truthfully say it is definitely not a beginner bat.

Perhaps you can explain to me what the Palio Expert properties are and what it has that makes this bat a slow controllable beginner bat, maybe comparing its weight, number of plies, characteristics of blade ie, types and thickness of its plywood or anything that can be relied upon to make (comparable to a budget fast blade) it one of the slowest blades available.

Same with its CJ8000 rubbers, which incidentally come in 3 different thicknesses I believe, with even more variations of sponge thickness and hardness. Can you tell me with absolute certainty that with these rubbers on that blade, will give a beginner a realistic chance to have good control? because it won't.

Hello

I found these two from Amazon

300 usd refurbished Joola 15mm table - https://www.amazon.com/JOOLA-REFURBISHED-Inside-Table-Tennis/dp/B07BDWXYKW/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=table+tennis+table&qid=1556433273&s=gateway&sr=8-5

400 usd Stiga 15 mm table (bit out of price range.) - https://www.amazon.com/Advantage-Competition-Ready-Indoor-Tennis-Preassembled/dp/B01JMTDZ5Q/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=table+tennis+table&qid=1556433984&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-3

350 usd Stiga 13 mm table - https://www.amazon.com/Advantage-Competition-Ready-Indoor-Tennis-Preassembled/dp/B01JMTDZ5Q/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=table+tennis+table&qid=1556433984&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-3

Stiga and Joola are reputable table tennis brands so you should be ok.

Be careful when purchasing from Amazon, because I'm seeing a lot of tables that are not full sized.

Edited from a comment I posted some time ago:

https://www.allabouttabletennis.com/table-tennis-table.html

This section is a quick summary of what you should be looking for

>A full-sized table tennis table is 9ft x 5ft (or 274cm x 152.5cm).

This is more for club players so you can get away with thinner tables but regarding table thickness:

>12mm – The cheapest tables. Avoid at all costs! Terrible bounce.

>16mm – Not a great bounce. Only buy if on a tight budget.

>19mm – Ideally the minimum. Will cost you £300.

>22mm – Good bounce. Ideal for clubs. Cheaper than 25mm.

>25mm – Competition standard table. Will cost at least £500.

https://www.allabouttabletennis.com/table-tennis-table.html

You also have the option of checking with Craigslist. When purchasing second hand tables, make sure the table's in playable condition by checking for surface damage, leg stability, playing on it for a bit (to check for consistent bounce), and confirming its specifications.

Do you recommend any cleaner in particular?

Butterfly 8181 Table Tennis Racket Care Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0008G2VAS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_aBf5yb3CF3DQ2

👆seems to have the best reviews?

This is just a bit above your budget, but it's a very good allround bat that can be used for defensive play:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Palio-Expert-Table-Tennis-Case/dp/B016BQTCFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487089359&sr=8-1&keywords=palio+expert+2

It will be hard to find something better at that price (or less) unless you look for deals on blade/rubber and assemble it yourself.

Palio Expert 2 is usually cited as one of the better 'premades':

https://www.amazon.ca/Palio-Expert-Table-Tennis-Racket/dp/B016BQTCFU

Cheap and cheerful :)

aluminum top best for outdoor use. more durable.

https://www.amazon.com/STIGA-Composite-Playability-All-Weather-Performance/dp/B01JKJ8OPE/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=table+tennis+outdoor+table&qid=1563946579&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/JOOLA-Outdoor-Aluminum-Tennis-Weatherproof/dp/B019JPLIFC/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=table+tennis+outdoor+table&qid=1563946579&s=gateway&sr=8-5

https://www.amazon.com/Kettler-Outdoor-Table-Tennis-Accessory/dp/B00WHQEURE/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=table+tennis+outdoor+table&qid=1563946579&s=gateway&sr=8-9

few amazon options

This is an affordable beginner paddle. I've used all 3 Palio precedes and I think the Master is the best choice. The expert is too slow and the legend is a bit fast for beginners and the rubber is harder than most would like starting out.

Palio Master 2 Table Tennis Racket & Case https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016BR89J4/ref=cm_sw_r_taa_oe9eAbSZPWZQW

https://www.amazon.com/Mypingpongbuddy-My-Ping-Pong-Buddy/dp/B004UZW20W

These are perfect for picking up balls easily.

Jumping from a very basic paddle like the Killerspin Jet200 to a custom made one probably isn't worth it; especially a custom defensive one which you may not like.

Try out a beginner's setup first like this Palio 2 star racket: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32855593263.html

Same product on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Palio-Expert-Table-Tennis-Racket/dp/B016BQTCFU

Are a pair of these too serious for him?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003JK000I/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1408377633&sr=1-3&pi=SX200_QL40

These seem popular here. What thickness would be appropriate. Is flared ok?
http://imgur.com/WLkPJtv

I have both short and long pips (RITC 802-40 and RITC755), and I don't really do anything to "care" for them at all. I'll occasionally wipe my short pips on my shirt if it's looking particularly dusty, typically after playing with new balls. Some people use a "pips brush" to brush out lint or whatever else might get between the pips, but I imagine a toothbrush could accomplish something similar.

Two really popular, cheap, beginnerish rackets:

• Pailo Expert, $40
  
• Cole's Buster Combo, $40
  
  If you want something a little more premium, although not necessarily better, pick one of these blades:
  
  
• Yakasa Sweeden Extra, $43
  
• Donic Appelgren Allplay, $45
  
  And combine with one of these rubbers:
  
  
• Yasaka Mark V, $38
  
• Butterfly Sriver, $40
  
  Megaspin also has a Sweeden Extra with Mark V combo for $95. Megaspin (and other vendors) will usually have the option to assemble the racket for you if you don't want to build it yourself.

Funny. I once made a ball collector out of a box about the same size as the one in your pic.

What I did was to string rubber bands across one side of the box, and it worked great to pick up a bunch of balls all at once. Adding a handle would have been my next move, but my club has a couple of these now.

If there was anyway you could stretch to the Palio Expert 2 at $39.95 it would make a huge difference to someone learning the game. It's basically the cheapest "proper" bat available on amazon. Plus the rubbers are incredibly hard wearing so will last for ages and can take a beating.

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But if it's for a school club I would reach out to some of the well known shops and see if they can cut you a deal/give you some stuff for free. Megaspin might be worth a shot. I'm in the UK, so not much help on that side of things.

Is this a good paddle case?

Guys need suggestion on the case for this...
should I go cheap and buy a regular oblong case?
or should I overkill and buy one of these....

• Killerspin Optima Ping Pong Paddle Carry Case
  
• JOOLA 56731 Table Tennis Tour Case, Blue
  
  
  any suggestion would be helpful...
  
  
  thanks in advance....

I have $25 in Amazon Gift card and I am planning to buy my first racket.
I am a beginner and hobby player. I tend to play defensively using chops but could also practice to be an all-around player.

Does this look okay?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K2PYM0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_pMKLBbKGY8W3R

Like this?

SINGER 00557 4-1/2-Inch ProSeries Detail Scissors with Nano Tip, Teal

I'm thinking about getting the JOOLA Inside Table and see that it's $400 on Amazon with free delivery. I checked out the camelcamelcamel website and noticed the price hovers between $279 to $400. But then I noticed that Amazon does sell used versions of this table with some significant cosmetic damage. Do you think camelcamelcamel is picking up the 'used' table datapoint and reflecting it as the price for a new table?

I'm hoping to buy this table at a discount but worried that I might be misinterpreting camelcamelcamel data. So reddit, does this table go on sale? Especially for sub $300?

DHS A4006, not bad for a premade.

Amazon says they’re the same weight


https://www.amazon.com/Palio-Legend-Table-Tennis-Racket/dp/B07V2LDDBS


https://www.amazon.com/Palio-Legend-Table-Tennis-Racket/dp/B016BRJ7HW/ref=asc_df_B016BRJ7HW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167134282234&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10989664581600093455&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031955&hvtargid=pla-315051023641&psc=1

When I was a young competitive player my coach chose my blade and rubber for me. I don't know which I used.

Here's a link to my current pre-made: http://www.amazon.in/Donic-Waldner-Table-Tennis-Racquet/dp/B000WMDRSI

JOOLA Inside 15mm Table Tennis Table with Net Set - Features Quick 10-Min Assembly, Playback Mode, Foldable Halves https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002HWNVZK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_yXswCbVD6VY2Y

I’m going to play casually, will I regret not getting the 25mm?

Also, I live in a very mild climate area and I’m going to store this in my garage. Will the be 25 mm be less likely to have any warping issues over time?

Donic VarioClean + get some edge tape.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QDTJLW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01

Here's a link to some gaffer tape that works just as well but without the markup of having it say Butterfly or whatever.

It's this paddle

https://www.amazon.com/MAPOL-Professional-Paddle-Advanced-Training/dp/B01IMPAKEA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1505365638&sr=8-5&keywords=table+tennis+paddle

This is what I'm currently using, though I'm actually in the market for something with a bit more grip.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003JK000I/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

I started a thread a week or two back asking for recommendations, but haven't acted on it yet:

http://www.reddit.com/r/tabletennis/comments/1y5evq/seeking_advice_on_new_paddle/

https://www.amazon.com/Butterfly-Table-Tennis-Racket-Care/dp/B0008G2VAS

There are other, cheaper brands of the same stuff.

thoughts on this paddle for beginner? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K2PYM0Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This one works for me: http://amzn.com/B003JK000I