I don't know about overpriced, but they are definitely more expensive than other brands of similar quality, like Dell. Lenovo is awesome, but I consider them to be somewhat of a luxury item, because you are definitely paying very high a premium for comfort. I believe Thinkpads are definitely worth it, but only if you do a lot of typing and need something portable and aren't on a strict budget. If you dig the Trackpoint and don't mind using and external keyboard, you can always get a Dell and use with Lenovo's external keyboard with Trackpoint, available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1535836363&sr=1-2&keywords=thinkpad+keyboard+with+trackpoint.

I have both a Dell 6530 Latitude and a Lenovo X1 Carbon. I use a Dell XPS at work. The business class Dells are a better value by far, with much better specs for the price and greater durability, since they have magnesium cases rather than plastic/carbon fiber like Lenovos. However, I really like the Lenovo keyboard and aesthetics - both visual and tactile. The experience of typing on a Thinkpad is awesome. Dell keyboards are very nice but get very hot to the touch in the area where you rest your palms if using for an extended period. Some of the Dell models have a trackpoint, but it isn't really usable, compared to the Lenovo trackpoint, which is really comfortable to use and accurate enough to completely replace your mouse and/or touchpad. I almost always use an external keyboard with Dell laptops.

I would recommend going to the refurbished/scratch and dent section of the Dell website and checking out returns. I got my 6530 Latitude for half off (less than $1000) with incredible specs six years ago when I was a student, and it is still going strong. I would not bother with Acer, or any other cheaper brands, because as a student you are really not going to want something that you may need to replace in the next few years. (I did have an Acer before the Dell - it completely fell apart on my way to class one day after a duct tape repair failed. The thing just fell apart bit by bit over the course of a year, flaking off chunks of plastic, keys, etc - terrible build quality.) By the way, my six-year old Latitude smoked the new Carbon X-1 when I benchmarked them. Another point to consider is the screen, which is lackluster on all Lenovo laptops, (except the really high end Yoga models with OLED screens) whereas the screens on business class Dells are generally great. One drawback to the the more affordable Dell business machines is that they are heavy and make a statement - whether you want them to or not. They are aggressively large and unfashionable. I didn't care about that, but I did note that it looked out of place in the sea of sleek Macbooks that almost everyone else was using. If you care about that, and have a bit more room in your budget, the XPS is a very nice machine, and you can sometimes find them in scratch and dent section as well. My refurbished Latitude had no discernible scratches or dents of any kind, and I still consider it one of the best, if not the best, purchases I've ever made.

In short, I wouldn't really recommend a new or refurbished Lenovo laptop for a student, especially if that is your main machine.

Hello,

As ArthurRemington noted, the system as originally sold was configured to use the 16GB M.2 SATA SSD as a cache to offset the slow 1TB 5400RPM HDD using either Lenovo's [ExpressCache] (http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds104444)† software or Intel's Smart Response Technology software. If you did not install one of those after setting up the system then that the reason the computer is slow. It is loading everything off the hard disk drive and not taking advantage of the cache drive at all.

From looking at the ThinkPad Yoga 460 FRU-BOM, the ThinkPad Yoga 460 is only offered with a M.2 2242 SSD, which means SATA and not NVMe as LocalHostRulez noted. Since M.2 2242 SSDs use single- or dual-chip NAND flash memory solutions, they are going to be slower than SSDs which use physically larger boards, like M.2 2280, because those contain morec hips across which the reads and writes can be spread. For this reason, I'd recommend against going with a 128GB M.2 2242 SSD, which are probably going to operate in the lower-300-400 MB/s speed range and instead go with a 256GB part, which should get you into the 400-500 MB/s speed range. Here some compatible replacements:

Manufacturer|Model|Capacity|Amazon.Com Link
:---|:---|:---|:---|
MyDigitalSSD|MDM242-SB2-0256|256GB|https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MXMQQ7Z/
Transcend|TS256GMTS400|256GB|https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KLTPUG4/
ZTC|ZTC-SM201-256G|256GB|https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YDHKIMG/

Transcend also has a 512GB model, but you are paying a premium. ZTC had a 512GB model as well, but I didn't see a listing for it on Amazon. If you can find one at a decent price, though, you might want to consider that.

Any good quality 2.5" SATA SSD (Samsung, Intel, etc.) would be even faster, though. However, that would mean giving up the 2.5" 1TB HDD.

When you're ready to perform the upgrade, download the Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 460 Hardware Maintenance Manual, which explains how to disassemble and reassemble the unit. I also found a YouTube video here of someone doing the same thing.

In the meantime, probably the best thing you can do to increase performance is to wipe both the SSD and HDD drives inside the ThinkPad Yoga 460 and reload the Windows 10 operating system using the Lenovo factory recovery media, which you should be able to download from the Lenovo Digital Download Recovery Service. Check to verify eligibility before you erase the drives, though. You will need a 16GB USB flash drive to create the recovery media.

With the recovery media, you will be able to get the system back to the way it was running when it first arrived. Ever since the SuperFish incident, Lenovo pretty much gave up on installing any third-party software on their systems (aka bloatware). You can read the announcement from their company here about that. By the way, it was never installed on any ThinkPads, just their consumer offerings. Lenovo still does load some non-Microsoft software, but it's for things which aren't natively-supported by the operating system (For example, if you bought a Lenovo computer with an Intel RealSense 3-D camera, it would have the Intel RealSense 3-D software on it, since Microsoft doesn't provide that software as part of Windows 10.), maybe a trial version of anti-malware software. You'll also see a couple of pre-loaded programs like Lenovo Settings (for managing the computer's hardware) and Lenovo Companion (for customer support), but those are Windows Apps from Lenovo, and can be easily removed. Oh, and maybe some Lenovo wallpaper. Traditionally, ThinkPads have not had much in the way of bloatware, anyways, since they are sold to enterprises for corporate use.

In the words of the Immortal Bard‡, you kind of played yourself by loading a vanilla version of the operating system instead of sticking with the factory pre-load, which was relatively bloat-free (maybe just uninstalling any third-party security program if you wanted to use Windows Defender).

Even if you do not plan on reinstalling the Lenovo pre-load of Windows 10 to the existing 16GB SSD + 1TB HDD, I would strongly suggest making the recovery media. That way when your replacement M.2 2242 SSD arrives, you can use that to perform a clean install of the factory pre-load, and get any Lenovo drivers or software needed for the machine to operate at full potential.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky


^†I ^believe ^Lenovo ^actually ^licenses ^it ^from ^Condusiv
^Technologies^.
^‡DJ ^Khaled.

No one seemed to answer this for you so I'll try my best. This modding guide has a lot of the best parts this laptop can use including battery! Although I'd be aware of receiving a fake battery on Amazon or eBay. On Amazon, it shows $60, but if you type the serial number it should be on the Lenovo website for more money. You'll have to decide what the best option for you!

Everything that can be done to the T430 and best upgrade options!

https://medium.com/@n4ru/the-definitive-t430-modding-guide-3dff3f6a8e2e

From Lenovo

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/chargers-and-batteries/batteries/BATTERY-ThinkPad-Battery-70/p/0A36303

From Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085MPGDG/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=n4ru08-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0085MPGDG&linkId=5e4dd8bda2aaf0eacc084a43112aa656


Hope this helps

Hey, full stack developer using x1 extreme with Linux here. Everything you listed here seems fine other than the ssd you want to make sure you get nvme as opposed to normal sata 3 one to make sure you get the most out of it. This is the lowest one I'd put on a workstation

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-1TB-MZ-V7E1T0BW/dp/B07BN217QG

That's the normal 970 evo, the 970 evo plus is a bit better though. 970 pro isn't worth it to me from a price point perspective the 970 plus is my go-toand is what I have installed on my X1E. 3500mb/s read and about 3200-3300 mb/s write, the one you listed hovers around 500mb/s read and a bit less write than that.

Everything you listed as a requirement can be done on all Linux distros, what you have to determine is how you'd like to manage them. If you're a first time user I'd recommend pop os and manjaro, they're sure to have all the stuff you need and work pretty good out of the box. I personally use manjaro because it's a rolling release so I install once and just go upgrading stuff as it comes out, no need to install a new one over what I have once the new release is out like other distros. Just remember that with Linux you'll have to do some digging around and getting your hands dirty with stuff sometimes for things to work properly but once you get used to it you'll see it's a small price to pay for all the flexibility you get. The ones I listed are just some personal favourites, you really can't go wrong with any other to be honest just experiment with a few until you find the right fit for you, try them on some virtual machines if you want to make your testing a bit faster.

Cheers

Hope this helps! Never had a single issue except for for my monitors sometimes showing black areas within specific applications (outlook). Hope this helps, and congratulations on the new thinkpad!

Just FYI, this is the best RAM you can buy w/ amazon prime (16gbx1 stick). https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015YPB6HQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Great for an upgrade!

Just got it a few days ago and unfortunately doesn't charge the X1C Gen 5. Pretty disappointing since they advertise 20V 1.5A!

Edit: It charges the laptop but only when it's off. Doesn't charge when it's sleeping either.

The Anker multi port that also supports 20V 1.5A does charge the laptop though.

Anker recently released a PD version of their powerbank, https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Portable-Nintendo-Delivery/dp/B01MZ61PRW/ref=sr_1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1497186310&sr=1-4&keywords=Anker+PowerCore%2B+26800

Looks like it supports 20V 1.5A like their multiport charger that works so if someone is game I'd love to know.

Razer also has a powerbank that supports USB C PD with 20V 2.25A so even better!
https://www.razerzone.com/gaming-accessories/razer-power-bank

I have tracked down the service manual: https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/p40_yoga14_mt20fy_yoga460_hmm_en_sp40j47499_01.pdf
The information relevant to the existence of M.2 is pages 88-91 . The summary is that the laptop supports either an M.2 SSD OR an M.2 WWAN card (Although I have not seen a laptop with that configuration offered...) -- Since apparently the model shipping from Best Buy is using the 2.5" slot, it remains to be seen if the M.2 SSD slot is actually enabled.
I am closely investigating this laptop, and I will probably buy it. If I do, the first thing that I will have to do is upgrade the storage, and no point throwing out a perfectly good 256GB SSD when there is a perfectly better 512GB 42mm M.2 SSD for $190 (http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B016W1PP5K), so (if I remember...) I will post back and say what there is to say.

I am looking to get the gen 2 first chance it goes on sale. Does anyone know what the available slots are on it?

Lenovo.com lists 32Gb ram and 1Tb SSD as max but I assume that is just what they can deliver

but I would like to have (2x32Gb ram and 2x2Tb 660p m.2 nvme SSD)

ram: 2x150$

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2666MHz-Memory-Computers-M471A4G43MB1/dp/B07N124XDS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=32gb+sodimm+laptop+ram+ddr4&qid=1557450017&s=gateway&sr=8-3#customerReviews

ssd 660p 2x200$

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GCLLKDC/ref=twister_B07LHHZRG4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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This looks like I would get a powerful machine for a very reasonable price. From reading online, it looks like the upgrades would fit in a gen 1, any idea if it would work in a gen 2 too?

As others have said, up the ram to 8-16 gb. Another thing I would think about doing is replace the battery. Often times refurbed batteries are terrible. I wouldn't reccomend third party batteries, as I have found the cells inside them are bad. I'd grab a 9 cell new lenovo battery from amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Lithium-Battery-0A36303/dp/B0085MPGDG/

I also added a bay battery from ebay, but that's just personal preference.

In linux, install tlp, thinkfan, and the install the thinkpad kernel module. That software basically optimizes linux for the thinkpad. You will get much better battery life with all of that. Also, thinkfan will let you set the fan curve, and provides a better option for fan control on thinkpads compared to what is in linux out of the box.

Everything else should work just fine in Linux. Please note that 160 gb might not be big enough for both linux and windows. Linux will be fine with low storage, but windows is 20 gbs by itself. In addition, adobe CC is probably another 10 gb or so. Keep that in mind.

Hi, I was able to get this config on the lenovo site right now (10/8/19) for $2,306.20 using the 'THINKPADSALE' coupon.

Processor : Intel® Core™ i7-9850H with vPro™ (2.60GHz, up to 4.60GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 Cores, 12MB Cache)

Operating System : Windows 10 Pro 64

Memory : 16GB (8GB + 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz

Hard Drive : 512GB Solid State Drive, M.2 PCIe-NVMe, Opal

Display : 15.6" UHD 4K (3840 x 2160) OLED, 350 nits, multi-touch, AR/AS with Dolby Vision™ HDR 500

Graphic Card : NVIDIA Quadro RTX5000 16GB

Factory Color Calibration : X-Rite Pantone Factory Color Calibration

Pen : Lenovo Pen Pro

Wireless : Intel AX200 Wi-Fi 6 802.11AX (2 x 2) & Bluetooth 5.0

Warranty : 1 Year Depot or Carry-in with 1Y Accidental Damage Protection Add On


This the configuration that I purchased (still waiting on shipping - Oct 15). My out the door price was $2,357 (with military discount & eCoupon). My usage also includes ML agents with Tensorflow, Visual Studio 2017/2019, Unity, Blender 2.8, virtual machines (need a MAC OSX VM for uploading to Apple's app store), Docker, and various other software.

I understand the need for a decent CPU. I decided to get the 6 core 9850h because of the RTX5000. I chose not to go for the Xeon because ECC memory isn't necessary for the projects I work on in my off time. The price different between the Xeon and the 9850h is quite large, and the performance gap is quite small (outside of ECC).


The OLED screen is supposed to have 100% DCI-P3 coverage, 100% SRGB coverage, and 100% AdobeRGB coverage (though some reviews have shown the numbers to be slightly lower, but with delta E for less than 2 all around).


I personally believe it is a better value proposition to get the 16GB (8GB + 8GB) configuration with the 512GB storage, then upgrade from another vendor such as Amazon or Newegg. 32GB kits (16GB + 16GB) are currently going for around $130 Amazon Link. A 1TB Samsung NVMe SSD goes for around $170 Amazon link


It should be noted that the RTX5000 that comes in the P53 is reported to be the full non max-q version. NotebookCheck Link


Lastly if you are fine with repasting the CPU & GPU it might lead to better thermal results. I haven't seen anything on the P53 yet, but I did find this for the previous model the P52 Youtube Link. While temps didn't really improve a lot, the CPU was running at a higher clock speed.

Edited to improve readability and add links.

The specific battery I bought doesn't fit your model, but fwiw, I bought this battery from Amazon a month ago which was much cheaper than directly from Lenovo and I have had zero issues with it. Based on all the packaging and the internal battery stats, it appears to be legit. I've been using it for at least a few hours on battery every day and the capacity is currently at 99.9038% which seems reasonable to me for one month's use.

$ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
native-path: BAT0
vendor: LGC
model: 45N1011
serial: 34148
power supply: yes
updated: Tue 20 Aug 2019 08:34:52 AM EDT (23 seconds ago)
has history: yes
has statistics: yes
battery
present: yes
rechargeable: yes
state: discharging
warning-level: none
energy: 79.05 Wh
energy-empty: 0 Wh
energy-full: 93.51 Wh
energy-full-design: 93.6 Wh
energy-rate: 12.979 W
voltage: 12.029 V
time to empty: 6.1 hours
percentage: 84%
capacity: 99.9038%
technology: lithium-ion
icon-name: 'battery-full-symbolic'
History (rate):
1566304492 12.979 discharging

That's an awesome list of ThinkPads you have! I see your an X series guy. I thought about pulling the trigger on a decked out X230 but it doesn't have the classic IBM keyboard. Since you have the best of both worlds, which keyboard do you prefer from the X220/X230?

Also, do you think this RAM would work on the X220? Did you have to flash a certain BIOs* for the 16GB RAM or was it plug n play?

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-DDR3-1600-PC3-12800-CT2KIT102464BF160B-CT2CP102464BF160B/dp/B007B5S52C/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&ref_=aw_cr_t_pc

> New USB3 Charger

That could be a positive. 3rd party chargers are super cheap, and you have cross compatibility with Apple, Dell, HP, etc USB-C 20vPD chargers. And wildly useful chargers like https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Premium-Charger-PowerPort-Delivery/dp/B01D8C6ULO

Long story ...

I got a genuine Synaptics trackpad from Amazon, at considerable expense (compared to other options), that was absolutely horrible. 25% of the time it wouldn't enumerate. When it did work, the quality of the tracking would drift over time. Sometimes it was OK, at others it would have too much inertia and overshoot my intended target. It would also have poor precision. I had to move away from a target and re-approach it, because I could not make small movements.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCNGBDL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Somewhat discouraged, I took a chance on this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Touchpad-Trackpad-w-Three-3-Buttons-Key-For-LENOVO-T440-T440P-T440S-T540P-T450/122011354304?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

This is an Alps pad, about 2/3 of the price, and it is absolutely brilliant! It has a perfectly smooth surface and excellent tracking. I absolutely love it! Unfortunately, they are sold out. : (

I now have a bud who wants me to perform the same surgery on his T440. This one looks like the Alps that I have, so I've flipped a coin and ordered it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Touchpad-Trackpad-Three-Buttons-Key-Fit-THINKPAD-T440-T440P-T440S-T540P-T450/192148939153?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

But, it is still in transit from China. It'll be another couple of weeks, before it arrives.

In terms of ram you're probably alright if you stick to a good name brand such as kingston or G skill. Just make sure it's 260pin SODIMM when your order it.

I don't have a lot of experience with docking stations, as I have a powerful tower that sits at home. But I know lenovo has a dock that has a nvidia 1050 inside to help performance with 4k screens or multiple monitors. It runs by tb3 x4 and has 2 display ports and an hdmi port. I've never used it, but I can imagine that would be very helpful for high resolution or high refreshrates, video/photo editing, and of course gaming. https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-G0A10170UL-Thunderbolt-Graphics-Dock/dp/B079JFW3YT

It's fairly pricey, but very interesting nontheless.

I am in the minority, but the E460 is a great budget laptop. The E440 was cheap, but the E450 and E460 have been very solid improvements. It is 3 screws to take the bottom cover off and 0 more to replace the ram and hard drive. The hard drive just pops in.

For $805 I specced out this http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/e-series/e460/

Intel Core i7-6500U Processor (4MB Cache, up to 3.10GHz)
AMD Radeon R7 M360 2GB
14.0 FHD(1920x1080) IPS Non-Touch
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC(2x2) 8260, Bluetooth Version 4.1
Win 10 Pro

A 16GB Ram Kit is $50 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007B5S52C/
A 750GB SSD is $199 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DUNLMUU/

That brings my total to $1055+tax.

I would echo luc1zh on this one. 66% isn't a bad capacity at this point - it would put you in the region of a brand new 6-cell. While you could buy a new 9-cell, that's going to be quite expensive and they seem to be quite rare.

Having been looking for a new 9-cell for my X220 since basically the day I got it 2 years ago, personally I believe it's too expensive to bother with. Tends to be £80 plus on eBay, and the official Lenovo is £69 on Amazon.

However, that's for official Lenovo batteries. The general wisdom is to go with the official batteries, but there are plenty of aftermarket batteries available. It's a bit of crapshoot; there's a huge price differential (I've just bought an aftermarket 9-cell for ~£15, for example) and you have to ask yourself - why is that the case? Is it because they're cutting corners on quality? The answer to that is likely, yes, they are - which could mean anything from: battery doesn't have the stated capacity, the capacity declines very quickly or even they've compromised on safety and the battery will blow up in your face - literally.

I guess what I'm saying is, you've got 3 options:

1. Do nothing, keep that battery, save money
   
2. Go to Amazon, buy a 9-cell there, direct from Amazon - should be genuine - like this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-0A36307-Lithium-Ion-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B0085MPIG6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1485958876&sr=8-2&keywords=thinkpad+x220+9+cell
   
3. Go to eBay or Amazon, find an aftermarket 9-cell, check any reviews or feedback and buy it for (much) cheaper than Lenovo, taking the risk that it's crap, dangerous, or both.

It's not really difficult. It's just kind of a long process, and all the screws make it a bit annoying. Rough steps:

1. Remove battery and power supply.
   
2. Remove keyboard.
   
   1. push up keyboard by the two bottom "slits" on the keyboard.
      
   2. after screws are exposed, remove them. I think they stay on the keyboard, though, but unscrewed.
      
   3. Pull the keyboard up a bit from the bottom, then pull towards you (or in the direction of the trackpad).
      
   4. flip the keyboard (or hold it vertically) and disconnect the two keyboard ribbons. (Note: all ribbons have some sort of lock that you either pull up, or pull back (pull back for the fingerprint scanner). It's black.
      
   5. Put the keyboard somewhere safe.
      
   6. Disconnect the trackpad ribbon. It's the small one below the keyboard ribbons.
      
3. Remove bottom cover.
   
4. Remove like 13 screws. I think they're the ones labeled "C"
   
5. Remove the palm rest. It's held in by "snaps" (idk what to call them), like the display bezel. Some guitar picks might help here. (Note: If you have the fingerprint scanner, it's ribbon is glued to the laptop, so be careful when pulling the palm rest up in that section because it's shorter. Not extremely short but not long enough to work with. You can unglue it slowly and it becomes easier to disconnect.)
   
6. With the palmrest now off, and since you disconnected the trackpad ribbon already, just flip over the palm rest and remove the screws for the trackpad.
   
7. Swap the trackpad.
   
8. Basically do everything backwards to put it back together.
   
   I ended up with the trackpad in and the thinkpad halway back together while trying to get the drivers to work because I didn't do a lot of research for the process to get the drivers to work. I think some steps have to be done while the clickpad is still connected (disabling automatic trackpad driver installation and such), but I'm not entirely sure. As soon as it worked for me, I just put it back together.
   
   Edit: I'm using mine on Windows 10. I haven't tried my trackpad with any Linux distribution. This is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCNGBDL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
   
   It's a Synaptics trackpad.

I'm using a 9-cell 70++ battery that I bought brand new. It's produced through sanyo for lenovo. It appears genuine of course and has a energy full capacity of 100%. Manufactured in 2018. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085MPGDG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My Plasma battery monitor usually says I'll get about ~3.5 hrs out of it when I turn brightness down which I think sounds way too short. My original battery was manufactured in 2012 with an 83% capacity but the battery monitor read the same thing.

You think this battery is legit? I've seen people getting 5-6 hrs from this battery with proper power management but I feel like I should return it and tell them to get me a better one.

The consumer equivalent is the 970 Evo for around $220

Samsung 970 EVO 1TB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E1T0BW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN217QG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Hc.3BbYBC7KXD

The SMART thing is really just an inconvenience. However- it seems I may be incorrect in my claim as spxak1 posted below. I've never gotten it to work correctly. Also, the Evo/Pro versions have flawless SMART support on the SAME machines that couldn't give me info on the PM/SM versions.

> I'm a physician and I go to conferences and workshops often.

> I enjoy photography.

The X1C or X1Y is basically designed for you, to be honest. Get the screen upgrade. Have you looked at the X1 Yoga with the OLED screen? The OLED is amazing especially re photography, and the pen can be useful for drawing stuff given your situation.

The X1C and T470S don't get that hot in general, although if you're running artificial benchmark tests, yes it will heat throttle. In other words, it will be fine for you except when you export from Lightroom.

The T470 is the "budget" machine of these three, it's aimed at a slightly lower market, with worse build quality and worse screen quality.

Battery life is slightly better on the X1C than the T470S. If you're worried about battery life, buy a USB-C battery pack: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZ61PRW

Go with the T460. The screen size is much better for programming. Get the FHD IPS screen.

You can find the RAM cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC3L-12800-204-Pin-CT102464BF160B/dp/B006YG8X9Y

Any laptop DDR3L will do. You chose the correct part, just not the best deal.

Check out this SSD (or go one size higher, partially paid for with the money you save on RAM :) ): https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-2-5-Inch-Height-SDSSDHII-240G-G25/dp/B00M8ABEIM

Any 2.5" SATA SSD will do.

Don't pay Geek Squad. You'll be paying money just for someone to unscrew a few screws and insert a card into a slot, and another into another, then rescrew the screws.

Your T460 will have two RAM slots. Buy your 8GB stick, insert it with the 4GB, and you will have 12GB. Ignore people on /r/buildapc; you're not building a PC and they've somewhat confused or misled you. In this case you will have read about dual channel RAM, but it's negligible for your cases compared to the benefits of more RAM and/or upgradeability later (so I'm saying you should prefer one 8GB stick over 4+4 to enable upgrading later more easily, which outweighs dual-channel benefits that you won't notice). Plus, with 8+4, the matching 4GB of each can be in dual channel mode anyway.

I just picked up this one for my x220 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085MPIG6/

Replaced my old original 6 cell and after an initial calibration the difference is amazing.

Ninja Edit: Ordered from the "Blue Donuts" seller fulfilled by Amazon.

I was looking for a USB charger and came across the Anker PowerPort 5+ which has Power Delivery. Using it in conjunction with a Belkin USB 3.1 cable I'm able to charge my X15C. I thought I'd share as this setup is a great alternative to using the AC adapter. It charges a little slower but you also have 4 additional USB charging ports that can be used for charging other devices simultaneously. Will be great for traveling!


https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Premium-Charger-PowerPort-Delivery/dp/B01D8C6ULO

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-IF-Certified-USB-C-Meters/dp/B00WJSPCSG

This might be a bad question but I have never used eBay before ... is it brand new?

I just returned my T450s because of horrible coil whine and in anticipation of the T460s. With all these recent reviews, Im actually longing for the t450s back (except the noise of course). The design/shape/screen/keyboard were perfect. Hopefully yours is rock solid.

Here is the ram I used. https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-PC3-12800-204-Pin-Notebook-CT102464BF160B/dp/B006YG8X9Y?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 ... Worked perfectly.

M.2 2242 for second SSD. Something like https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-256GB-MTS400-Solid-TS256GMTS400/dp/B00KLTPUG4

I dunno how good the 840 is, but it'll definitely work. You can directly replace the HDD that came along with the laptop.

Battery: https://lenovo.encompass.com/item/11092852/Lenovo/01AV427/Ct470_Batt_External_6c_72wh_Li

https://lenovo.encompass.com is the place to buy parts, and this is parts list.

Finally, I would not recommend trying to pry the bottom cover off, instead get something like this

The touch pad isn't really all that bad, especially if you use the touch functions.

As for the battery, mine came with that battery but they are pretty easy to find. Amazon has it for sale but it's a little pricey. https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Genuine-Extended-Thinkpad-0C52862/dp/B00KOHS6UK

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Here's a battery (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085MPGDG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) I've had one for 2 years and still get over 5 hours of battery life.

Intel Centrino Ultimate -N 6300 AGN

any intel, samsung or corsair drive I would recommend. They are the top of my list. I've got a 500gb 850 evo mSATA now as my boot drive.

Have you thought about upgrading your CPU? I've got a 3820QM in mine and get amazing performance. You might want to upgrade your HFS though.

I'm pretty sure I've seen something on this sub where somebody had connected the Lenovo Thunderbolt 3 graphics dock to a regular dock that their laptop was connected to

Edit: Actually this is what I was thinking of, see Sir Hammerfest's review here: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-G0A10170UL-Thunderbolt-Graphics-Dock/dp/B079JFW3YT#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div

So yes you can daisy-chain docks it seems

http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-MTS400-Solid-State-TS256GMTS400/dp/B00KLTPUG4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1426748747&sr=8-2&keywords=m.2+ssd

this is m.2 right, sorry kinda noobish but learning. but i did buy the t450s without the 16 g cache

edit: sorry lol i didnt' read the whole post thorougly but archover said he did install a 256 gb in the m.2 slot. Yeah basically i want to keep the hard drive where it is, and have an ssd as well

thank you! i only didnt link it because it looks like this

https://www.amazon.com/AU-B140HAN01-1-B140HAN01-2-B140HAN01-3-Compatible/dp/B00GIRSHEA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1522016606&sr=8-2&keywords=B140HAN01.1

and since im not on mobile idk how to shorten it, i dont really care about the colors im not photo editing and stuff, just dont want a blurry screen yah know? thanks again!

40GB (8 soldered + 32) works. Someone else on the sub did it not too long ago. Even included the RAM module. I’m personally running 24GB (8 soldered + 16)

Edit: it's not on Lenovo website. They only have the wired one for sale.looks like eBay it is. Going for $80-90 used. That's a fair price if it's as solid as a regular thinkpad keyboard is with a bit better build considering it's a stand alone product.

Tryng to find it on Lenovo's website, but their keyboard section is down for maintenance. I got a sneak peek and they removed 1 keyboard and seem to have some sales going on for the 1st page I saw. I'll update with OEM price, because I want one too.

Had to look this up... Wireless Thinkpad Keyboard Amazon... 3rd party sellers only...

$289

O O F

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KOHS6UK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496607426&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=t450s+battery&dpPl=1&dpID=51-iHdfxAJL&ref=plSrch

This is what I would buy. Not as cheap as any of us would like, but not as expensive as Lenovo either. Also, I've bought batteries on Amazon before (for around the same price) and they were pretty legit.

Just wanted to inform you of which trackpad I got and which driver I'm using. The replacement was successful.

I got this trackpad: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCNGBDL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It's a Synaptics trackpad

And for the driver I used this package: gggr03ww.exe

The download link is the following: https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles/gggr03ww.exe

I found the link in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/8gkfyt/replaced_t440p_trackpad_with_t450_trackpad/ It's OP's Edit 3

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I followed the instructions that someone provided in the Amazon reviews. To disable the automatic trackpad driver update, I followed the instructions in the link below. They're also in a comment of the Amazon review with the instructions, but the howtogeek page below has a bit more details.

https://www.howtogeek.com/263851/how-to-prevent-windows-from-automatically-updating-specific-drivers/

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If you do decide to change the trackpad, I'm willing to help you out with the driver stuff.

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You might struggle to be honest.

I believe the T460 uses DDR3L RAM
However, single 16GB DDR3L SODIMM sticks are few and far between - Crucial don't do any, for example.
So if you do find one , chances are you'll pay over the odds for it

Sometimes, you can use DDR3 - but a) this depends on the manufacturer as to whether they support it, b) not sure you'd want to (or even able to) mix DDR3 & DD3L

And even then - a single stick of DDR3 16GB is £165 (GBP)
In contrast, a single stick of 16GB of DDR4 is about £60

the T460 has two slots, right? You'd be better off buying a 2x8gb DDR3L pack - about £60

From Amazon UK

(Obviously prices will be different in US etc, but suspect the difference in prices will be comparable)

Absolutely worth any hit to battery life, albeit small.

The maximum I can get is 11 hours running 1 chrome tab at medium brightness. When pushing the computer, I average around 9 hours while developing.

I've also picked up one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075SSHGJL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Which really gives me flexibility while on the go. Alternatively, Anker sells a competing unit (although it provides only 30w charging):

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Delivery-Charger-Portable/dp/B01MZ61PRW/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1523550791&sr=1-2&keywords=anker+power+delivery+battery

and

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-20100mAh-Portable-Delivery/dp/B071WNWRNC/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1523550791&sr=1-1&keywords=anker+power+delivery+battery

Actual 2242 user here. Very happy with this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KLTPUG4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1. It's was $117 when I bought it in 2014. Regardless of the heresay about m.2, it's good in practical use.

Thanks for the info! Your configuration was what I wanted initially. I finally bought RTX card and 4K screens because I wanted to have a more versatile machine. I would have bought the T2000 card if I had known the truth. Really confusing.

Do you think that I can somehow remove of the m.2 slots and replace it with 2.5in bay?

I am going to buy more storage. Do you think this one is going to work? https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-1TB-MZ-V7E1T0BW/dp/B07BN217QG/ref=pd_bxgy_147_2/130-2566725-7353048?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07BN217QG&pd_rd_r=e0fa81fe-aa79-4308-853d-2d1b4f9a2110&pd_rd_w=N9DwG&pd_rd_wg=PIYud&pf_rd_p=09627863-9889-4290-b90a-5e9f86682449&pf_rd_r=9TYYQE2TMRDPRDPVXYH2&psc=1&refRID=9TYYQE2TMRDPRDPVXYH2

How is your P53 performing? Speed? Noise? Like it?

Hi /u/andifeind!

I also have a T470s. If you don't mind, could you please verify the specs of your module via dmidecode and help me to confirm the specs of the module to get?

My problem is I found this module at amazon ($200 USD), but it says it runs at 2666 MHz, and I found my memory modules are running at 2133 MHz, so not sure it's the right one.

Or, simply, do you have a link of the module you bought?

Thanks, mate!

These are my current specs:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7600U CPU @ 2.80GHz


sudo dmidecode --type 17


Handle 0x0004, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0003
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 4096 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Set: None
Locator: ChannelA-DIMM0
Bank Locator: BANK 0
Type: DDR4
Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
Speed: 2133 MHz
Manufacturer: SK Hynix
Serial Number: 00000000
Asset Tag: None
Part Number: xxx
Rank: 1
Configured Clock Speed: 2133 MHz
Minimum Voltage: Unknown
Maximum Voltage: Unknown
Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

Handle 0x0005, DMI type 17, 40 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0003
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Set: None
Locator: ChannelB-DIMM0
Bank Locator: BANK 2
Type: DDR4
Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
Speed: 2133 MHz
Manufacturer: SK Hynix
Serial Number: xxx
Asset Tag: None
Part Number: xxx
Rank: 1
Configured Clock Speed: 2133 MHz
Minimum Voltage: Unknown
Maximum Voltage: Unknown
Configured Voltage: 1.2 V

For the SSD, it's a no-brainer. You're far better off buying your own. Even with the BLACKFRIDAY10 coupon, the slot 1 upgrade is $319, the slot 2 addition is $527; a 970 EVO 1TB is $228, and you are guaranteed the best consumer-grade SSD on the market right now instead of playing the lottery.

For RAM, though, it's not as simple.

16 GB x2 of PC4-21300 SODIMM is $254.

The 32 GB x1 and 16 GB x2 upgrades are both $223 with the coupon.

The cheapest, however, is the 16 GB x1 upgrade at $74.41 with the coupon, plus another 16 GB x1 at $125, for a total of around $200.

Of course, if you get the 8 GB and replace it, 8 GB is worth around $60 new. However, I've never thought of the used RAM market as very strong, so I think you'd be lucky to get $20-30 right now. Alternatively, you could keep it for later.

I'm not sure how this works with Perks instead of the current coupon because I'm lazy, but "get the cheapest and just buy your own upgrades" is not always the least expensive route.

You only get 2 drive bays in a T480 (assuming that it is the same as the T470). You get one 2.5 inch SATA Express bay, that is PCIe Capable (might be 2X or 4X, I'm not sure). And you get one 2242 M.2 slot that is mutually exclusive with WWAN (no cell service if you put a drive here). The WWAN slot is also PCIe 2X capable, and there is one NVMe drive out there.

You can use something like this to convert that 2.5" drive to Two m.2 slots.

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Adapter-Converter-Support-25S22M2NGFFR/dp/B018AOZ9QM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519865090&sr=1-1&keywords=2.5+inch+to+m.2+adaptor


The cheapest m.2 SSD is also 2 TB. So you could buy two of these for $1000, and then put something in the 2244 slot.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CXvbt6/western-digital-blue-2tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds200t2b0b


I think this is the largest 2242 M.2 drive, at 512 GB.

https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-512GB-MTS400-Solid-TS512GMTS400/dp/B016W1PP5K

So with those 3 you could get to 4.5 TB of NAND flash, which is just a little short of your goal.


Otherwise, you are stuck at 2 TB HDDs. Those are all that are offered in the 7mm 2.5 inch variety. Offering you a max of 2.5 TB total.

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-2-5-Inch-Internal-ST2000LM015/dp/B01LX13P71?th=1

Your other option is to buy a P51 or P52, which has room for up to 4 drives. One 2.5" SATA III slot. One combo, 2.5" SATA III or 2 2280 M.2 dirves, and one 2242 M.2 drive.

Thank you very much for your reply.

I decided to go for the T490,
right now both the T480 and T490 are the same price for te base config with core i7 and WQHD. But the T490 has a slightly faster turbo boost and has a brighter display.

I will get one 32gb Ram module: Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM Memory Module for Laptop Computers (260 Pin SODIMM, 1.2V) M471A4G43MB1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N124XDS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_OOCZCbV8WRF46

And the 2TB Crucial NVME SSD.

Thanks for your response! I don't know much about screen so I'm wondering what is the difference between your screen and this cheaper screen
https://www.amazon.com/AU-OPTRONICS-B140HAN01-2-SUBSTITUTE-REPLACEMENT/dp/B00GIRSHEA

From what I can tell they are both B140HAN01.2. Thanks!

Yes, it's the M.2 2242 (42mm) form factor.

I bought the Toshiba OCZ RC100 240gb NVMe SSD.

I read it on the forums and the crowd said it's compatible with T580 WWAN slot.

I bought it on amazon for under 60€

https://www.amazon.de/Toshiba-RC100-M22242-240G-Speicherkarte-240GB-PCIe-t%C3%BCrkis/dp/B07DD4FWRL/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=2YH1XGM4COZAG&keywords=toshiba+ocz+rc100&qid=1571763631&sprefix=Toshiba+OCZ+RC%2Caps%2C290&sr=8-1

The installation was literally plug & play.

Edit: Sata m2 drives will NOT work in wwan slot, only NVME

Any DDR4 SODIMM module should work. Just note that anything higher than 2400 MHz will be bottlenecked and underclocked to match that speed IIRC. This one seems to be pretty good.

I got the configuration 50% off through JPChase perks, I couldn't pass it up, so I just got the RAM. However, it is pretty cheap. My configuration came with the RAM below, and they inserted it under the keyboard. So the remaining two slots are easily accessible under the back cover, although I don't think I need more than 64.

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Amazon has it right now for $70, which is one of the best prices I've seen.

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Manufacturer-0C52862-Extended/dp/B00KOHS6UK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1539184214&sr=8-3&keywords=lenovo+68%2B

Holy shit, you are paying way too much for all of those. I would go for this:

http://arrowdirect.com/lenovo-thinkpad-t420-2-80ghz-intel-core-i7-gen2-250gb-4096mb-4.html

This one has an i7 processor, way better battery, and way better build quality. Supports two SSDs as well. You can use the promo code "ARROW" (no quotes) to bring the price to $266.

Adding a 250 GB SSD and 16 GB RAM should bring the price to $450. You would have a total of 500 GB of storage and 16 GB RAM, and an i7 processor to boot. Resolution is 1600x900.

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Lithium-Battery-0A36303/dp/B0085MPGDG?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

This is a legit lenovo battery, I have been using it for months with no issue.

I also don't think this laptop can really be called an ultra book at all. It's huge, it's heavy, it's thick. It's a great laptop but it certainly doesn't belong in the same category as the macbook air or dell xps 13.

Ah cool thanks. What RAM did you buy? Been ages since I've messed about with stuff like this, trying to see on Lenovo which RAM module I need. Just an 8GB one will suit me, I think. Will this one work?

Crucial CT8G4SFS824A 8 GB (DDR4, 2400 MT/s, PC4-19200, SRx8, SODIMM, 260-Pin) Memory https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01BIWKP58/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KrLZAbAWKK8AD

Not the answer you’re looking for but sharing it anyway as you might have not considered it. I’m not sure about your reason why you would want a 16gb x16gb config but for mine I got 16gb stock and bought a 32gb. The reason is so I could keep my exisiting RAM and if I plan to upgrade in the future then I just replace the 16Gb with another 32gb. I got mine from amazon. Cheaper now on Black Friday sale: Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM Memory Module for Laptop Computers (260 Pin SODIMM, 1.2V) M471A4G43MB1 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07N124XDS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ycG4DbTSRB8V3

Just thought I'd share my end results, got my t450s this monday, and had already ordered a 1TB samsung 850 evo SSD for all of my data:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426951032&sr=8-1&keywords=850+evo

And a Trascend 128 GB M.2 (42 mm) SSD for the operating system

http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-MTS400-Solid-State-TS256GMTS400/dp/B00KLTPUG4/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426951098&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=trascend+m2

My model came with the smart card reader, and no integrated mobile broadband. Following the hardware maintenance manual I was pleased to see how straightforward it was to remove the bottom cover and do the changes (disabled the internal battery before doing anything though). Here's a pic of the t450s without the bottom cover, showing the free M.2 slot, and one with the samsung SSD inside

http://i.imgur.com/R6LSGY4.jpg
http://imgur.com/5YKP5bE

Afterwards I installed Fedora 21 on the M.2 drive and configured the 2.5 SSD as my home drive. Needed to disable secure boot and also change the UEFI setting to legacy (otherwise Fedora would get stuck while booting). As reported by lots of people trackpoint buttons do not work properly, but fixes for that are already in the kernel so they should work eventually.

I'm pretty sure this is compatible with the t450s. I was eyeing it for a while until I found out I was barely using 2.5 GB out of 4 GB with linux.

I just ordered one too, and I've got the same questions as you (minus the warranty)! Though, I am looking at the Samsung Evo 1TB SSD: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN217QG/ It's the best for the money from the research I've done, and it's at the lowest price it's ever been. I just want to make sure I won't need an adapter or anything for it.

This looks cool for a portable battery. It only charges at 30W, but that can still be very useful.

Not bad. You can supposedly play GTA V on it without a hitch on low settings at 720p. For video, it can push a 4k display.

I personally have done molecular graphics on the UHD 620 and its been fine. If you need the GPU Though, you could get an X1 with a thunderbolt 3 port and then get an eGPU dock. Lenovo even has one https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-G0A10170UL-Thunderbolt-Graphics-Dock/dp/B079JFW3YT .

There isn't a "converter" to use a thinkpad's (as in, a laptop's) keyboard via USB. What you see in the image you posted is a dedicated product. There are a few different ones, but you can find them by just Googling "thinkpad usb keyboard". Like this one.

Definitely works fine with 16GB. I've used 2 x 8GB DDR3 1600 then upgraded to 2 x 8GB 1866 which worked with a custom bios at the full 1866 speed. Both were sets from Amazon 2 x 8GB DDR3 1600 and 2 x 8GB DDR3 1866.

Thanks for the tip but this is what the listing for the 1.2 looks like on Amazon.ca: https://www.amazon.ca/AU-OPTRONICS-B140HAN01-2-SUBSTITUTE-REPLACEMENT/dp/B00GIRSHEA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491100133&sr=8-1&keywords=B140HAN01.2 ($150+S&H).

Yes it will work.

What won't work are those labelled NVMe, like this one

Awesome, this is really helpful. If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy your panel?

After reading these comments, I realized my listings are the "compatible" kind and can have 3-5 dead pixels (yikes). I thus found this listing which specifies they will send the exact model and doesn't mention a dead pixel allowance. Does it look legitimate?

I ordered a T450s with the 16GB M.2 card and a Smartcard reader. I decided to replace the 16GB M.2 with a 256GB M.2: http://amzn.com/B00KLTPUG4

I wanted to move the Windows 8.1 installation to the M.2 so I used a drive cloner: http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

It worked well and was the best of the software that I used (I cloned 3 times before getting things working).

The gotcha is that after cloning the drive you must remove it before booting back to Windows 8.1 (and probably Windows 8). If you don't do this Windows gets confused.

Does it come with one 8GB stick installed or 2x4GB? I would like to upgrade it to 16GB by adding one stick like: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BIWKP58

Crucial DDR4 is always a good bet. I've been buying crucial for decades and have never had a bad stick.

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC4-17000-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B015YPB6HQ

There are a few choices for 256gb, especially https://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/mydigitalssd-256gb-super-boot-2-sb2-42mm-2242-sata-iii-6g-m.2-ngff-ssd-solid-state-drive-mdm242-sb2-0256/

But for 512gb there's the Transcend MTS 400 and nothing else. It's quite expensive https://camelcamelcamel.com/Transcend-512GB-MTS400-Solid-TS512GMTS400/product/B016W1PP5K especially now that it's temporarily out of stock from Amazon so only third party buyers above 420 USD (!) are showing. Even so, 343 USD for a half tera SATA drive is not nice.

Pay the extra and get the real thing. I got this original Lenovo one and it's excellent.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0085MPIG6

The ideal would be to daisy chain thunderbolt displays, but that'll get pricey.

Your best bet is to get an eGPU and run them off of that. You only get one display port per Thunderbolt port (USB-C might or might not have it depending on the specs), so you're limited by what that can output.

USB alone probably won't cut it for 3 displays, but I might be wrong and it might cope at 1080.

This is an option if you want to stay on brand, and not too pricey compared to other TB3 docks: https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/accessories-and-monitors/docking/universal-cable-docks-thunderbolt/Thunderbolt-Dock-Gen-2-UK/p/40AN0135UK

Or this one had a mobile GTX 1050 inside it, but costs as much as a bigger eGPU: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-G0A10170UL-Thunderbolt-Graphics-Dock/dp/B079JFW3YT

If 2133Mhz is the max the RAM runs at, would this then be a good option for added RAM?

Crucial 16GB

FYI that Crucial is $95.25 on Amazon today:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015YPB6HQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

> Thanks for the response! Would this work?
> https://www.amazon.com/AU-OPTRONICS-B140HAN01-2-SUBSTITUTE-REPLACEMENT/dp/B00GIRSHEA

From what I've heard, the memory controller in the T430s only supports up to 8GB per module (i.e. 16 GB total in the T430s since there are only 2 SODIMM slots) and in order to get support for 16GB modules, you have to upgrade to at least a Broadwell-generation model (2 generations newer).

I'm not sure what RAM speeds the T430s supports, but when I upgraded to 16GB, I got this (1600MHz):

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-CT2KIT102464BF160B-DDR3-1600-204-Pin-Notebook/dp/B007B5S52C/189-4933732-7084662?ie=UTF8&keywords=16gb%20ddr3l&qid=1449731499&ref_=sr_1_4&sr=8-4

I don't have a part number for the pad, and I'm relatively sure it's a knockoff of some kind. However it has been working great. I ordered it from this listing: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCNGBDL/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The backlight on my keyboard does indeed work, but it worked before, and all I did with the keyboard was remove it and put it back after the new trackpad was installed.

The wallpaper is from u/lostwithtrackpad, found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/6vgucy/exploded_thinkpad_t440p_wallpaper/

Hey don't get that one lol. Apparently it's the cheap version. You'll want the Synaptics version. That would be this one.. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCNGBDL/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1#customerReviews

1. > http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC3-12800-204-Pin-Notebook-CT102464BF160B/dp/B006YG8X9Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450635328&sr=8-1&keywords=8gb+ddr3+laptop
   
   
2. Yes.
   
   
3. 
   >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-charger-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440-T440S-X240-S440-S540-45N1124-45N1775-/261966606436?hash=item3cfe6d3064:g:7BYAAOSwLVZVpGc4
   
   Just get a big SSD, if you don't need the spinning disk space.

I'd snag one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N124XDS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3LGJ9ZB5RSN9T&psc=1

and toss it in there, paired with this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RCM6DXK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1UVTGP6WV0D1P&th=1

Just my 2c!

Huge upgrades for ~$235

Is that just for the E495? Im picking up a X395 and looking to get a good power bank.

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I dont know if wirecutter is still reputable (bought out a while ago), but they reccomend these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072BD98CM?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=xm2&ascsubtag=AwEAAAAAAAAAAXer

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0156HCJQO?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=xm2&ascsubtag=AwEAAAAAAAAAAXes

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075Q5VLGK?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=xm2&ascsubtag=AwEAAAAAAAAAAXet

And I know Anker is reputable, so was also looking at this:

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Delivery-Charger-Portable/dp/B01MZ61PRW/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2MGFMR5ODL9KT&keywords=power+delivery+power+bank&qid=1566445596&refinements=p_89%3AAnker&rnid=2528832011&s=gateway&sprefix=power+del%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-4

Been thinking about getting this one for a while for my x240. It has good reviews and would be the form factor you need. That being said I don' have it just yet.

http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-MTS400-Solid-State-TS256GMTS400/dp/B00KLTPUG4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1424274475&sr=8-3&keywords=m.2+transcend

Mine was shipped with a DDR4-2400 8GB SO-DIMM by Samsung. I got a similarly specced Crucial (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BIWKP58/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) to work dual-channel with it and all is good.

> Anker has a good one if you need more ports, etc.

this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D8C6ULO ?

I just installed this Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM Memory Module for Laptop Computers (260 Pin SODIMM, 1.2V) M471A4G43MB1 in my T490 (that came with an 8GB soldered to the motherboard). So now it has a total of 40GB, works great, no issues.

Ah okay. Just one last thing, this would be compatiable with my system right?
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-ROCKET-1TB/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2SZZY4KUYIRSE&keywords=1tb+nvme+m.2+ssd&qid=1574954976&s=electronics&sprefix=1+tb+NVM%2Celectronics%2C200&sr=1-4
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-1TB-MZ-V7E1T0BW/dp/B07BN217QG/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2SZZY4KUYIRSE&keywords=1tb+nvme+m.2+ssd&qid=1574954976&s=electronics&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sprefix=1+tb+NVM%2Celectronics%2C200&sr=1-3

RAM:
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC4-19200-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B019FRBHZ0/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3MTOZMRWBW612&keywords=16gb+ram&qid=1574955245&s=electronics&sprefix=16+gb+ram%2Celectronics%2C100&sr=1-5

Oh :(.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GIRSHEA/

What about this seller? Amazon offers Prime which would be nice :D.

I take it you are asking about the current generation with usb-c charging?

In that case you have plenty of options. The laptop will charge via virtually any usb power supply, but if the power output it too low it may only charge when the laptop is asleep. I have been experimenting with a couple of alternative options.

First is the Anker 5-port 60W charger with Power Delivery This is more of a desktop charger, but it can perform fine as a portable model, especially if you add a shorter cord and it is replacing several chargers you would otherwise be carrying. This charges the X1 at 45W.

My preferred travel option at the moment is this Dell unit which is 45W, compact, and includes a usb-a port for charging a second device (although only at 5W). I added this folding adapter replacing the AC cord, and now I have a compact travel unit that wraps the cord nicely and can charge two devices.

There is also the FINsix Dart-C which is the most compact option available, and can also charge a second device, but it's expensive and currently estimated to be at least 10 weeks of lead time for shipment.

I don't have any experience with battery packs, but any pack that includes the usb-c Power Delivery spec should do the job.

Yes, m.2 2242 42mm is what you need.

https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-256GB-MTS400-Solid-TS256GMTS400/dp/B016W1PP5K/ref=sr_1_3_m?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1473744344&sr=1-3&keywords=m.2%2B2242

Plugs into the WWAN slot.

Personally, I'd replace the touchpad. While you have it apart you can clean any mineral deposits or corrosion with isopropyl alcohol. I think the Trackpad is about $30.

https://www.amazon.com/buttons-Touchpad-Clickpad-Trackpad-Thinkpad/dp/B01NCNGBDL

This is 100% 1.2

https://www.amazon.com/LCDOLED-Exact-B140HAN01-2-Screen-19201080/dp/B01115CIB6/

and original panels go from 70+ up if you are very lucky you will find it cheaper but not by much.

Ohhh, well crap. Kinda makes charging via USB pointless then for me. I figured if it can charge Macbooks, it should be the same

edit: This one looks like it charges up to 30w. Still not enough? I wish this was more clear

Yep, took out the 8GB module, replaced it with this:

Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N124XDS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

So 8GB soldered + 32GB on only one slot; voila 40GB.

Most posts/forums I've seen recommend this Crucial model. The same model you have in your guide. I'll know if it works once I do the upgrade. Beware though that if you put 12GB RAM in the laptop, you'll only get dual channel capability on the first 8GB and the remaining 4GB will be single channel since that capability only is possible in pairs of the same capacity.

The ram you have listed will most likely work. But do keep in mind, the X220 unofficially supports 16gb ddr3 ram. I am currently using that right now, and it is quite fast. Here is the link to the ram that I was talking about:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007B5S52C/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_yIrLwb0G3X29N

So this would work, right?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Single-PC4-19200-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B01BIWKP58


Thank you for a quick answer.

Something like this should work. That's the one I plan to get.

Yep! I'm gonna grab a 16GB Crucial stick. https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC4-17000-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B015YPB6HQ

I'm about to order one.

Planning to go with this single 16GB Crucial RAM stick for now (https://smile.amazon.com/Crucial-8GBx2-PC4-17000-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B015YPB6HQ). And probably this 512GB Sata (not sure that the speed difference will matter much to me) SSD: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820215017. $100 for the RAM, $140 for SSD.

I have got this one for my t450s and it works very well: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B006YG8X9Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

I believe this is the panel you're looking for. This is what I found for my T440p at least which I would assume would take the same screen. Obviously don't just take my word for it though! I don't quite have time to dig into it properly right now. FRU: B140HAN01.2

http://www.amazon.com/AU-OPTRONICS-B140HAN01-2-SUBSTITUTE-REPLACEMENT/dp/B00GIRSHEA/ref=cm_cd_ql_qh_dp_t

As for the battery on my T440p, I get 3-4 hours with the 6 cell battery and aggressive power saving if I'm just sitting in class looking at powerpoints and checking email/reading PDFs. Just FYI.

The recommended panel is the AUO right? I found this one and the seller also has the .3 version and there is also this one on ebay which is .3.

If you're not going to be gaming on it then any 2x4gb or 2x8gb potato sticks should work. If you need iGPU performance then you'll want 2133MHz potato sticks.

In terms of battery I'd only buy direct from Lenovo or from their Amazon page (link to 9 cell). Amazon link for 6 cell battery here. Buying direct from Lenovo ensures you get a genuine battery. You're welcome to buy cheaper batteries from Ebay or other sellers but they likely won't last as long as genuine Lenovo batteries.

Also if you're looking to upgrade the SSD to something modern, Intel's 545s is $180 for 512gb of storage

> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D8C6ULO

I have one of these for my MacBook, highly recommended, looking forward to using it with the X1 I'm planning to get.

Amazon Wired and Wireless

I picked everything up from amazon.

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Links below:

Ram

SSD

I agree! I wouldn’t be able to type on it with that position either. I see two options. One is a portable keyboard and the other is a portable display. A keyboard such as this comes to mind:

Lenovo ThinkPad Compact USB Keyboard with TrackPoint - US English https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_NRuvDbX5FH1VM

Or a portable monitor:

ASUS MB169B+ 15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 IPS USB Portable Monitor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013XFJKGI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8SuvDb765XBDK

The idea being that maybe you can keep the laptop on a flat table to type but use the extra monitor set at a higher position such as on your laptop stand. Plus you would have dual monitors.

Yes. Samsung I believe is currently the only company manufacturing a 2666MHz 32GB SODIMM but it's rated at CL19.

I just bought one off of amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085MPIG6

It's legit as far as I can tell... all OEM packaging and genuine labeling. Getting 6-8hrs out of it.

I can confirm the Amazon sold only by "Liquid Power" is the real deal

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KOHS6UK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

I bought a 72WH 68+ Notebook Battery 0C52862 from Amazon. The seller was price master jay.

Amazon 60 to 65$ OEM battery
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KOHS6UK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Prices have come down lately. You can get one for $125.49 on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2666MHz-Memory-Computers-M471A4G43MB1/dp/B07N124XDS/

yep it's the 9cell for x220
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Accessory-0A36307-Thinkpad-Notebooks/dp/B0085MPIG6/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1454096750&sr=1-1&keywords=lenovo+battery+44


it does protrude a bit so look up pictures or a video so you know what you're getting. I don't mind it but some people do

Unfortunately, 72wh is plastered all over the description.

http://amzn.com/B00KOHS6UK

Thanks for the help...I requested a return.

Here is a link in US amazon, Sorry don't know about Europe... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01115CIB6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

No, this one will also not work, as it's M.2 2280 SATA3.

You need a NVMe SSD, like this one.

I have one i bought from Liquid U.S.A on amazon with a mid 2018 production date. While it has performed as expected i'm not completely sure it is a genuine lenovo battery.

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Manufacturer-0C52862-Extended/dp/B00KOHS6UK/

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You could also simply buy one directly from lenovo.

This is the one I'm using on my T460p I have windows 10 installed on it and a linux distro on my main ssd. I have the main linux ssd as the primary boot option in the BIOS and I just F12 whenever I want to use the windows ssd. I haven't had any issues with this set up.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KLTPUG4/

The link says it's used but I bought a new one.

I saw another user post in /r/thinkpad that bectechglobal was genuine on Amazon. I actually just ordered this today:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085MPIG6/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I know, that won't fit yours but I would go with the bectechglobal seller. I'll tell you how mine looks by the end of the week though.

Found it. BecTech Global is mentioned here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/69ck1s/is_this_a_legitimate_oem_battery/
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/7rr0xp/9cell_battery_for_x230x220/

Why not just this? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01BIWKP58/

Not sure why you're going out of your way to find expensive RAM from a third party seller with no reviews.

I bought this. They delivered very slowly, but the screen is fantastic.

The installation was significantly more difficult than other Thinkpads that I have worked on. I have owned x31, x61, t410s, and a w520 (and had opened them all up) before this t470. This was by far the hardest to work on. As mentioned previously, the LCD bezel on the t470 has a lot of double sided sticky tape that had to be pried off all around the screen and then reapplied to reassemble the screen. Not enjoyable, but worth it for the screen upgrade.

Here's another option from Crucial memory that will work for you: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YG8X9Y/ - 8GB for $62

This crucial works and was on sale for a while $3 less than the current price of $35. http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC3-12800-204-Pin-Notebook-CT102464BF160B/dp/B006YG8X9Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450110803&sr=8-1&keywords=crucial+8gb

Figure $200-ish for the laptop, another ~$100 for the CPU, $150 for the SSD (though you could save $50), $30-40 for the keyboard, $100+ for the RAM, plus the cost of the screen upgrade if it originally came with the HD screen, and labor hours to install all of those upgrades, it might just be, depending on how new those parts are.

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Accessory-0A36307-Thinkpad-Notebooks/dp/B0085MPIG6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449894369&sr=8-1&keywords=lenovo+x220+battery

this one

My vote would go towards a new/probably larger battery. https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-0a36307-Extended-Battery-Laptop/dp/B0085MPIG6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473364171&sr=8-1&keywords=thinkpad+x220+battery

It exists: https://www.amazon.com/ThinkPad-Compact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00C32FWJC

https://www.amazon.com/ThinkPad-Compact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00C32FWJC/

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485621093&sr=8-1&keywords=thinkpad+keyboard

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_hq84ybMCHDFBH

(Not mechanical unfortunately)

Complete the following:

• Buy your fiancee a latest-gen X1 Carbon
  
  
• Buy this: [Bluetooth ThinkPad Keyboard with TrackPoint](https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1518637407&sr=8-2&keywords=/u/gts250gamer101 is great)

Is there a limit to SSD capacity you can connect to WWAN slot? Will this drive work: https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-256GB-MTS400-Solid-TS256GMTS400/dp/B00KLTPUG4 ?

By the way, Transcend now has 2242 drives. Example: http://www.amazon.ca/Transcend-MTS400-Solid-State-TS256GMTS400/dp/B00KLTPUG4/

Right here

Was $50 when I bought it, however.

That's correct. This is the battery that I upgraded to.

For the upgraded screen, would this work?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01115CIB6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I did a ton of search, there are so many "equivalent/replacement", the only one I can find with exact is this https://www.amazon.com/LCDOLED%C2%AE-Exact-Model-B140HAN01-2-creen/dp/B01115CIB6/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 have you done that before? I believe the T460p needs the .2 version

Same one but different size: Crucial 16GB Single DDR4 2133 MT/s (PC4-17000) SODIMM 260-Pin Memory - CT16G4SFD8213 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015YPB6HQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_s11tybXMDN1TX

I believe It is not much faster, but cheaper. http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC3L-12800-SODIMM-CT204864BF160B/dp/B0123BRIDK http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC4-17000-SODIMM-260-Pin/dp/B015YPB6HQ

Similar setup here.

This is my SSD: https://www.amazon.com/Transcend-512GB-MTS400-Solid-TS512GMTS400/dp/B016W1PP5K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473760542&sr=8-1&keywords=transcend+m2+512gb

Right on - in a T460p you can install a 42 mm M.2 SSD. I have this going these days:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016W1PP5K

Search for 8GB DDR4 2400 SODIMM. I would go with Kingston/Crucial. Link

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BIWKP58

Anker USBC PD. It puts out 29/45w

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Premium-Charger-PowerPort-Delivery/dp/B01D8C6ULO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493396200&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+usb+c+pd

Apparently the max. output of anker external batteries is 30W

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZ61PRW/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&sr=1-10&tag=ianker-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B01MZ61PRW

Is 30W enough to power an x1 when it is switched on? Anyone else got an Anker to work with X1?