Reddit reviews India's China War

You're spreading nonsense. India started the war against China.

http://www.amazon.com/Indias-China-War-Neville-Maxwell/dp/8181581466/

 

edit: more facts

>“Q: What in your opinion were the policies, on both sides, that brought about the basic quarrel over the border?

>Neville Maxwell(author): As far as the McMahon Line was concerned India inherited the dispute with China, which the British had created in the mid-1930s by seizing the Tibetan territory they re-named NEFA. The PRC government was prepared to accept that border alignment but insisted that it be re-negotiated, that is put through the usual diplomatic process, to wipe out its imperialist origins. Nehru refused, using London's false claim that the Simla Conference had already legitimised the McMahon Line to back up that refusal — that was his Himalayan blunder. Then in 1954 he compounded that mistake by laying cartographic claim to a swathe of territory in the north-west, the Aksai Chin, a claim which was beyond anything the British had ever claimed and on an area which Chinese governments had treated as their own for at least a hundred years. To make matters worse, he ruled that there should be no negotiation over that claim either! So Indian policy had created a border dispute and also ruled out the only way it could peacefully be settled, through diplomatic negotiation.”

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/It-wasnt-China-but-Nehru-who-declared-1962-war-Australian-journalist-Neville-Maxwell/articleshow/33094229.cms

 

>“NEW DELHI: In a marked U-turn from the earlier stand taken by BJP, the Modi government has firmly ruled out the release of the classified Henderson Brooks report into India's humiliating military debacle against China in 1962.” “The Henderson Brooks report squarely blames the then Jawarharlal Nehru government's ill-conceived and ill-timed "Forward Policy", without proper intelligence or adequate military preparation, for India's abject defeat in 1962.”

In U-turn, Modi govt rules out release of Henderson Brooks report

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/In-U-turn-Modi-govt-rules-out-release-of-Henderson-Brooks-report/articleshow/38024666.cms

 

>“This book shows how much we can be misled by the media London TIMES reporter Nevile Maxwell wrote this book solely based on the declassified documents from India's Defense Department. It shows how India's prime minister Mr. Nehru launched the "northern advance" policy disregard the historical evidence were all against India's claim. The war started by Indian army firing upon the Chinese border garrison force and ended up with India's humiliating total defeat. But ironically, we in the West always believed that Chinese, instead of India, was the aggressor.”

India's China War

http://www.amazon.com/Indias-China-War-Neville-Maxwell/product-reviews/8181581466/

East Asians and South Asians have always influenced one another, it's amazing and culturally rich and full of history.

>Buddhism

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Astasahasrika_Prajnaparamita_Dharmacakra_Discourse.jpeg

Buddha was a non-Indo Aryan Nepali. The Shakya clan of Gautama Buddha, Chandragupta Maurya and Ashoka were East Asians who unified the various culturally rich kingdoms of India and Pakistan, they even defeated the Seleucid Greeks with King Parbatak of Limbuwan.

>Islam

The people who brought Islamic civilization, law, science, warfare, mathematics, astronomy, literature, architecture, cartogaphy, philosophy, surgery, lexicography, medicine, arithmetic to India were Turko-Mongol men of the Delhi sultanates and Mughal Empire.

http://prints.bl.uk/art/489644/timur-enthroned-with-his-descendants-from-babur-to-jahangir

The Mughals also defeated the Pashtuns who were known to hate Hindus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_North-West_Frontier#Treatment_of_prisoners-of-war

>According to the British officer John Masters, Pathan women in the North-West Frontier Province (1901–1955) of British India during the Anglo-Afghan Wars would castrate non-Muslim soldiers who were captured, especially British and Sikhs.[37][38] Pathan women urinated into prisoners' mouths.[39] A method of execution by this is recorded: captured British soldiers were spread out and fastened with restraints to the ground, then a stick, or a piece of wood was used to keep their mouth open to prevent swallowing. Pathan women then squatted and urinated directly into the mouth of the man until he drowned in the urine, taking turns one at a time. There is an incident mentioned when a Hindu man was brutally raped by a gang of Pashtun women, before they drowned him in their urine.[40][41][42][43][44][45][46] This method of execution was reported to have been practiced specifically by the women of the Afridi tribe of the Pashtuns.[47]

>Positive Historical Legacy

Shiva, one of the primary gods in Hinduism, was a Kirata East Asian man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kir%C4%81t%C4%81rjun%C4%ABya

Kirātārjunīya (Sanskrit: किरातार्जुनीय, Of Arjuna and the Kirāta) is a Sanskrit kavya by Bhāravi, written in the 6th century or earlier. It is an epic poem in eighteen cantos describing the combat between Arjuna and lord Shiva at Indrakeeladri hills in present-day Vijayawada in the guise of a kirāta or mountain-dwelling hunter. Along with the Naiṣadhacarita and the Shishupala Vadha, it is one of the larger three of the six Sanskrit mahakavyas, or great epics.[1] It is noted among Sanskrit critics both for its gravity or depth of meaning, and for its forceful and sometimes playful expression. This includes a canto set aside for demonstrating linguistic feats, similar to constrained writing. Later works of epic poetry followed the model of the Kirātārjunīya.

The Kirātārjunīya predominantly features the Vīra rasa, or the mood of valour.[2] It expands upon a minor episode in the Vana Parva ("Forest book") in the Mahabharata: While the Pandavas are exiled in the forest, Draupadi and Bhima incite Yudhishthira to declare war with the Kauravas, while he does not relent. Finally, Arjuna, at the instruction of Indra, propitiates god Shiva with penance (tapasya) in the forest. Pleased by his austerities, Shiva decides to reward him. When a demon named Muka, in the form of a wild boar, charges toward Arjuna, Shiva appears in the form of a Kirāta, a wild mountaineer. Arjuna and the Kirāta simultaneously shoot an arrow at the boar, and kill it. They argue over who shot first, and a battle ensues. They fight for a long time, and Arjuna is shocked that he cannot conquer this Kirāta. Finally, he recognises the god, and surrenders to him. Shiva, pleased with his bravery, gives him the powerful weapon, the Pashupatastra, which later in the Mahabharata aids him against Jayadratha and the Kauravas during the Kurukshetra war.[3][4]

>While Arjuna was seeking Siva as directed by Indra, that god took on the form of a Kirata and, radiant as a GOLDEN TREE, he loomed as large as a second Mount meru. - Mahabharata By Chakravarthi V. Narasimhan

>Arjuna then looked at the being, resplendent as gold, dressed as a hunter, and accompanied by a woman, who had shot at the boar. With joy in his heart , Arjuna smilingly said to him "O you golden creature! Who are you? and why are you roaming the deserted forest along with so many women? Are you not afraid of this dreadful forest?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarkanath_Tagore

Unfortunately, the grandfather of Rabindranath Tagore was involved in smuggling opium into China and selling it to the masses with British help.

>Sweet and Sour Relationship

India's most successful bodybuilder is Boby Arambam who is from Manipur and East Asian. Another great athlete from the North East is Mary Kom. Jimjang Deru is also breaking records in Indian weightlifting.

http://e-paolive.net/galleries/images/Sports/IndividualSports/2012/BobbyArambam_3/BobbyAramba_2012_3_3.jpg

Many international players in the Indian national soccer team are also from the North East

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_national_football_team#Players

40% of them are East Asian, most of them play offensive positions which require a lot of stamina, speed, strong legs, coordination and goal scoring capabilities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinglensana_Singh_(footballer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lalrinzuala

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackichand_Singh (yeah, I think he's named after Jackie Chan)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holicharan_Narzary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Singh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seityasen_Singh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laldanmawia_Ralte

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Vanlalsawma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunil_Chhetri (Gurkha, top scorer, his gf is Indian-"Aryan")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeje_Lalpekhlua

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Lalhlimpuia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lallianzuala_Chhangte

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lalrinmuana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiborlang_Khongjee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalruatthara

The best Indian football player was Tibetan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhaichung_Bhutia

India acknowledges that the athleticism of East Asians is great, but fails to treat them fairly and without discrimination and institutionalized racism, they are only there for the sake of bringing medals and sports trophies to India. Mary Kom for example was played by Priyanka Chopra instead of a North Eastern actress which is kind of like whitewashing.

>Rising Together

If we can solve this problem, then India, Pakistan, Iran, Central Asia, Russia and China can certainly rise together:

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/designation-beijing-india-test-china-killer-nuke-missile-12156

India should stop interfering in the South China Sea just to inflame tensions and project power. It's not good for pan-Asianism.

>Relations between China and India in the 1950s were very good. Nehru had extended India’s hand of friendship to the People’s Republic of China, at a time when some in the West, were hostile to it.

India under Nehru started the war of 1962 against China. China retaliated.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/It-wasnt-China-but-Nehru-who-declared-1962-war-Australian-journalist-Neville-Maxwell/articleshow/33094229.cms

>“NEW DELHI: In a marked U-turn from the earlier stand taken by BJP, the Modi government has firmly ruled out the release of the classified Henderson Brooks report into India's humiliating military debacle against China in 1962.” “The Henderson Brooks report squarely blames the then Jawarharlal Nehru government's ill-conceived and ill-timed "Forward Policy", without proper intelligence or adequate military preparation, for India's abject defeat in 1962.”

In U-turn, Modi govt rules out release of Henderson Brooks report

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/In-U-turn-Modi-govt-rules-out-release-of-Henderson-Brooks-report/articleshow/38024666.cms

>"This book shows how much we can be misled by the media London TIMES reporter Nevile Maxwell wrote this book solely based on the declassified documents from India's Defense Department. It shows how India's prime minister Mr. Nehru launched the "northern advance" policy disregard the historical evidence were all against India's claim. The war started by Indian army firing upon the Chinese border garrison force and ended up with India's humiliating total defeat. But ironically, we in the West always believed that Chinese, instead of India, was the aggressor.”

http://www.amazon.com/Indias-China-War-Neville-Maxwell/product-reviews/8181581466/

>Border Dispute

To stop the armed insurgencies in occupied North East India and Kashmir and to stop the even more violent backlashes by the Indian state, the Sino-Tibetan North East and Muslim Kashmir and Communist Naxalies should be allowed to secede from India which would also be a step forward toward decolonization from British imperial legacy. Keeping these regions would be akin to neocolonialism.

When all the conflicts are solved, then this should be possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPXmVNl4MKA

Chinese soldier returns home after 54 years in India

There is always a silver lining. Many Brahmin women from wealthy Indian families marry Chinese and South East Asian men.

http://i.imgur.com/YcA3k0v.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qgU17p3.png

u/hashtagpls

u/abcthefernest

inciting wars and killing innocent people, a long American tradition.

http://www.amazon.com/Indias-China-War-Neville-Maxwell/dp/8181581466/

http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-C-I-Interventions-II--Updated/dp/1567512526/

China wasn't strong in any way except in terms of ground military defense until starting in like the early-mid 1990s.

Also, you have to have read some pretty fucked up history books to think China, which had 2000 troops that were nowhere within 2000KM of a resupply line on the other side of the biggest mountainrange in the world, would start a war with India. India started the Sino Indian war and got its ass wrecked, to save face they keep trying to convince themselves China attacked them out of the blue. It's embarassing really, and makes me question your insinuation that Pakistan started the wars with India.

British Imperialism in China and Tibet is central understanding the 1962 India-China Border War.

>Between 1903 to 1947, "Christian" Britain imperialists invaded Tibet, massacred 2,000 to 3,000 Tibetans with machine guns, plundered a lot of its national treasures, and stole it as a colony. This was possible because British "gentlemen" waged two illegal Opium Wars against China to deal illegal drugs (opium. The British used Tibet as a buffer state to protect their other colony, India. To gain public approval of these anti-human actions, Britain selectively crafted a mythical image of Tibet (even though it’s a feudal theocracy where 95% of the population are serfs) in contrast to a tumultuous China (a turmoil caused DIRECTLY by white imperialists including Britain, Portugal, Spain, France, Germany, America, Sweden, Norway, Italy, the Dutch, Austria-Hungarian empire, Belgium, and Russia. Also, Imperial Japan.


>In 1914, the British drew the McMahon Line, which has a very confusing history but has created on-going tensions between Tibet, India, and China.


>● In 1914, the "Christian" British representative, Henry McMahon drew a MacMahon line with Tibetan local authority that gifted 90 thousand square kilometers of land from China (south eastern border) to India. This is Chinese land being reassigned without permission of the Chinese government. IT's illegal and invalid.

>● In 1960, Chinese premier Zhou en lai tried to peacefully resolve the border dispute with Indian premier Nehru, but India refused any reasonable proposal from China.

>● In 1962, India military troops stirred up conflicts on the border, but was defeated by China's military.

>A Brief History of the Sino-Indian Border Dispute and the role of Tibet

https://blog.hiddenharmonies.org/2010/03/26/a-brief-history-of-the-sino-indian-border-dispute-and-the-role-of-tibet/#more-13801


>“Q: What in your opinion were the policies, on both sides, that brought about the basic quarrel over the border?

>Neville Maxwell(author): As far as the McMahon Line was concerned India inherited the dispute with China, which the British had created in the mid-1930s by seizing the Tibetan territory they re-named NEFA. The PRC government was prepared to accept that border alignment but insisted that it be re-negotiated, that is put through the usual diplomatic process, to wipe out its imperialist origins. Nehru refused, using London's false claim that the Simla Conference had already legitimised the McMahon Line to back up that refusal — that was his Himalayan blunder. Then in 1954 he compounded that mistake by laying cartographic claim to a swathe of territory in the north-west, the Aksai Chin, a claim which was beyond anything the British had ever claimed and on an area which Chinese governments had treated as their own for at least a hundred years. To make matters worse, he ruled that there should be no negotiation over that claim either! So Indian policy had created a border dispute and also ruled out the only way it could peacefully be settled, through diplomatic negotiation.”

>It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/It-wasnt-China-but-Nehru-who-declared-1962-war-Australian-journalist-Neville-Maxwell/articleshow/33094229.cms


>“NEW DELHI: In a marked U-turn from the earlier stand taken by BJP, the Modi government has firmly ruled out the release of the classified Henderson Brooks report into India's humiliating military debacle against China in 1962.”
“The Henderson Brooks report squarely blames the then Jawarharlal Nehru government's ill-conceived and ill-timed "Forward Policy", without proper intelligence or adequate military preparation, for India's abject defeat in 1962.”

>In U-turn, Modi govt rules out release of Henderson Brooks report

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/In-U-turn-Modi-govt-rules-out-release-of-Henderson-Brooks-report/articleshow/38024666.cms


>“This book shows how much we can be misled by the media
London TIMES reporter Nevile Maxwell wrote this book solely based on the declassified documents from India's Defense Department. It shows how India's prime minister Mr. Nehru launched the "northern advance" policy disregard the historical evidence were all against India's claim. The war started by Indian army firing upon the Chinese border garrison force and ended up with India's humiliating total defeat. But ironically, we in the West always believed that Chinese, instead of India, was the aggressor.”

India's China War

http://www.amazon.com/Indias-China-War-Neville-Maxwell/product-reviews/8181581466/

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