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u/Zahrumar · 7 pointsr/armenia

Ah, my favorite type of posts which let me google stuff and satisfy my needs of internet investigation.

Here is the original article. At first glance nothing is wrong, it is understandable that a Jew might be "mad" over this case and write such an article. Except for the statue was erected last year and a similar article has been posted let's say in a more timely manner.

So what could be the reason that made Rabbi Israel Barouk remembered this and decided to write an article on it. Let's have a look at his previous articles I wonder what other things is he interested in. I'm just kidding I did not read all the articles just opened the other 5 articles pushed Ctrl+F and searched Azerbaijan (4 of them contained the word more than once, twice etc.). You can try yourselves and see the results a couple of sentences from each are enough to get the context.

Shall we continue? Search on Google. Well, you've guessed it at this point the results are predictable. Profile of the guy writing mostly on the same topics here and there. He even wrote a book. But one thing caught my attention an article on Asbarez and this time I read it (You see I just prefer our glorious, detailed and wonderful Ermeni propaganda over yours).
Here is a bit from that article where famous Armenian-Israeli composer William Weinder said something about Barouk.

> My parents and their families endured all the horrors of evacuation, exile and concentration camps. Fortune brought them to Armenia, where I was born and live for 60 years. I am doubly grieved, but, at the same time, I clearly understand, why shameful efforts are exerted in some circles, through false ‘documents,’ analysis, that do not fit any logic, to spread enmity among the world Jewry towards Armenia and the Armenian people. An article by a blogger, calling himself ‘Israel Barouk’ in Times of Israel is yet another naïve attempt. I suppose that Mr. Barouk, who lives in Los-Angeles and publishes peremptory statements in the forms of articles, has never visited Armenia and has no clue about the history of Armenian people and about more than 2000-years-old history of the Jews in this country. However, with a striking perseverance, he demonstrates an ‘in-depth’ knowledge on preferences of the Armenian people and Armenia.

Now let's go back to this statement.

>I suppose it is unsurprising to mention that the Anti-Defamation League found that 1.3 million out of 2.2 million adults in Armenia hold anti-Semitic beliefs, making Armenia the second most anti-Semitic country in Europe.

Of course, it would be ignorant of me to say that there is no anti-Semitism in Armenia and to deny the statement without the facts. If anyone would share trustworthy facts I'd like to read them. But anyways would like to share my search results and opinion on this as well. The ADL claims to have surveyed 4,161,578,905 adult population of different countries. Which sounds a bit suspicious unless they reached people and quickly asked: "Do you hate Jews or no?". But, if you click the "see more" you'll also see the questions. Also, I found it suspicious that an organization called Anzalone Liszt Grove Research did not proudly mention that they were the ones who conducted and coordinated a project which gathered opinions from more than 4 billion people. Anyways enough with this survey topic, whether it is legit or no does not contribute that much to our discussion and it's agenda does not fill in Armenia-Azerbaijan relations. Unless you'd like to use it to point fingers and try to grow tensions between two other nations.

Concerning Barouk. He might be just a guy who is deeply in love with Azerbaijan and believes that:

>Azerbaijan has proven to be a safe and stable community of many cultures, a nation that embraces engagement, inside and out.

But if you're still reading my comment try to push your "Armenians are evil" propaganda using less biased sources.

u/XIVTemperance_ · 2 pointsr/HistoryMemes

That’s not correct. Ottoman Empire always let Western Armenians to open up churches and they are still functioning to this day. But it is true that they had to pay more taxes than Muslim residents and they had fewer rights, but if you think that’s slavery I suggest you to look up how muslims were treated in Christian Europe.

And the Ottoman Empire suggested Armenians to take a chunk of Ottoman soil without any war and Dashnak replied with their interests in a war. Had Dashnaks accepted Ottoman’s proposal we would have a much larger Armenia today.
https://drpatwalsh.com/2018/10/20/the-dashnaks-terrible-mistake/

You are regarding Khojali just like the president of Armenia whose words were criticized very harshly for “pro-ethnic cleansing” speech

> Before Khojalu, the Azerbaijanis thought that they were joking with us, they thought that the Armenians were people who could not raise their hand against the civilian population. We needed to put a stop to all that. And that’s what happened. And we should also take into account that amongst those boys were people who had fled from [the anti-Armenian pogroms in] Baku and Sumgai

“Armenia wanted Azeris to flee their home and leave everything behind so that they would conquer there and when they didn’t Armenia just killed them all, completing their ethnic cleansing,”

You have the exact sane mentality as genocide denying Turkish nationalists “we wanted them to stop and when they didn’t stop, we wanted then to leave and they didn’t leave! So the Ottoman government had every right to kill them all!”

“613 deaths is nothing really, so we shouldn’t give any importance to that” that mentality is horrible. Not to mention that it is the biggest massacre in the course of Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

And I really do not understand both the genocide deniers in Turkey and Armenians’ stance of Khojaly at this point. Almost all of the Armenians and pro-Armenian anti-Turks (I do not say just “pro Armenians” because there are pretty neutral people in that group) think Khojaly is unimportant because a)”Azeris killed Azeris so that it would be used as political leverage against Armenia one day” b)They deserved it c)It did bot happen.

Don’t believe me? https://www.amazon.com/KHOJALY-Humanity-Rabbi-Israel-Barouk/dp/1888205695 This is a book on Khojaly written by not a Turk, not an Armenian but an Israeli and Armenians commented tons of times giving 1 star to the book, and saying things I just mentioned.

And yes it has to be neutral because the war is tied to human nature. You never ever have one side being angelic and the other side being the devil incarnate. Because Turkey continues to “not confirm or deny” Armenian Genocide and that’s common knowledge at this point but people have no idea that Armenia has still not apologized nor publicly confirmed the existence of Khojaly Massacre. Because people have no idea about Armenian war crimes.

And what’s with the Holocaust example? Jews did not kill any Germans but we all know Armenians did kill Turks?

And no, I am not “justifying” or “denying” any Turkish war crime, I do “believe in” the existence of AG or any other massacre under the Ottoman Empire but I would be a huge hypocrite if I continued to talk about horrible war crimes committed by Turks and positive sides of the opposition but not talk about the war crimes committed against Turks and the bad intentions of the other side.

I will be sorry for the victims of the Armenian Genocide and of Khojaly; of both Durmus and Phocea.

This will me my last contribution to this argument because we all know how reddit arguments end up. Believe all you want, even that Khojaly has never happened Azeris put skeletons on ground so that they would make up a tale called Khojaly and use it against Armenia while “Armenians totally did not commit any war crimes and were 100% angelic because history is always white and black you know”. I don’t care and I will continue to commemorate both sides.