Reddit reviews Mikrotik Wireless Wire RBwAPG-60ad kit 60 GHz Wireless Link 1 Gbit Full Duplex

Wireless Bridge. I've set up several including for very tech inept people and they have been zero maintenance or problems..

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If you want blazing fast speed and have line-of-sight between convenient spots on the two buildings, Mikrotik Wireless Wire.

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If you want to save a few dollars, don't need blazing fast speed, and have some mild obstructions (tree, shrubs, etc) between buildings, Ubiquiti NanoStation M5.

Miktotik has a new product that is a set of point to point radios that require absolutely zero configuration. Just plug one side into your routers LAN port and on the parents side you can use whatever SOHO router you want. Set the parents to AP mode if you want them on your network or router mode if you want them to have their own network. These don't require any ip addressing, it's all done automagically. They'll do 1 gig full duplex at 400 ft without a problem. Thier literature says they'll go thru windows without any loss as well so you might be able to avoid an outside mount. If you do have to mount them outside they come with mounting hardware and POE injectors to power them. I got a set at their US conference and set them up for the first time last weekend and they worked great. Set up time was about 15 minutes. They sell for about $180 so it's in line with the ubiquiti gear.

If you want to learn more about networking and setting up this kind of equipment then go for the Ubiquiti, it'd be a fun project. But if you just want something that works out of the box and is done in an hour I'd go with the Mikrotik Wireless Wire.

https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-Wireless-RBwAPG-60ad-wireless-duplex/dp/B077992GG3

There's a whole class of "Prosumer Wireless Technologies" out there that range from $200/link (a link includes two radios w/ antennas) to around $3000/link. Beyond that you're getting into more serious stuff.

If you want to play around with some fast and affordable point to point gear, Mikrotik sells their new Wireless Wire setup on Amazon for $225, https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-Wireless-RBwAPG-60ad-wireless-duplex/dp/B077992GG3

Our PTP test setup is $550/link and can push 500 Mbps over a mile, and 120 Mbps from Culver to WeHo. It's cool stuff, very affordable, and it works well in simple setups. The challenge is building a network using it.

I'm going to confirm my understanding -
Your set up is:
Modem+wireless router at one end of the house

wireless extender set up at another end of the house to receive a signal

powerline adapter at the other end, connected to the wireless extender


netgear powerline kit with wifi in your detached house


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I'm going to assume you're open to spending a little cash, have some time and are willing to get dirty. This should be MUCH higher performance/reliability but it's not as beginner friendly. The general idea is to wire as much as possible and to use point to point antennas instead of powerline (powerline is basically a big antenna that picks out interference from things like TV channels, people turning on vacuums, etc.)



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point to point wireless bridge:

https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-Wireless-RBwAPG-60ad-wireless-duplex/dp/B077992GG3


OR two MoCA adapters (works if you have coaxial cables run to the other house) https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Adapter-Ethernet-2-Pack-MM1002/dp/B078HMDDVS/


A few ethernet cables (cat6 - if you have anything that's going outdoors, get outdoor rated). I'd probably buy preterminated and go longer than you need.


a wireless access point - Ubquiti AC lite works


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general idea - set up two units, while connected with wires to the main network, get an ethernet cable to an edge of your house (might require running in an attic or under the house, drilling a hole in the roof of a closet and then down from a soffit in usually works well); set up an AC lite while in the house; get one bridge unit and the AC lite mounted at the guest house. If you have coaxial cables already run, use MoCA units instead of a wireless bridge.


Net result should be GOOD wifi to the guest house.

Is there a significant advantage for one over the other?

Mikrotik LHG 5 ac-US

Mikrotik RBwAPG-60ad

Thanks again for your help!

Mikrotik make a P2P bridge meant for shorter distances that has higher speeds than Ubiquiti, maybe worth a look.

https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-Wireless-RBwAPG-60ad-wireless-duplex/dp/B077992GG3

There are plenty of solutions, it just depends on how much money you want to spend. Like this is probably overkill but Mikrotek makes a product called the wireless wire.

I would recommend buying an actual quality access point that is connected to their router via ethernet. A long range unifi access point is my recommendation, but I have a preference for unifi gear.

Or get a router that support wireless bridging as that is also a good solution. But all these solution rely on getting a good signal between the buildings. The wireless wire is the best solution as it works on the near empty 60ghz spectrum and is meant to make a 1gbit/s link. Especially if you have windows with direct line of sight between the buildings.

You definitely want a wireless point-to-point link for this.

However, instead of buying standalone radios and having to configure the pair, I would suggest you simply buy a pair that come pre-configured. It makes deployment way simpler.

And it doesn't need to be a Ubiquiti product, either; in fact, I don't believe they even offer a pre-paired set. I'm referring to something like a TrendNet TEW-740APBO2K, or an EZ-Bridge-Lite EZBR-0214+, or, for 60Ghz non-interfering goodness and up to full line-rate wire speed, Mikrotik Wireless Wire (do note, with 60Ghz you really don't even want a clear window pane in the way, as it's very sensitive to even the slightest of physical obstructions, and something like that could cut link speed in half, or more, or kill the link entirely).

Regardless, you have so many options; even the 2.4Ghz stuff, at proper gain and placement, will likely link up fast enough to cover a 100/5 internet pipe.

Or you can use this: https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-Wireless-RBwAPG-60ad-wireless-duplex/dp/B077992GG3/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=wireless+wire+mikrotik&qid=1567365055&s=gateway&sprefix=wireless+wire+mi&sr=8-3

so... You have to consider not what the wireless spectrum is like now, but what the wireless spectrum is like during the event.

There will be hundreds/thousands of people with cell phones, all beaconing looking for access points to connect to. They will have a significant impact on 2.4 and 5ghz spectrum.

If you want to do something like this at an event with that many people, I'd look for an ethernet point-to-point bridge pair using something like 900mhz or 60ghz.

This kit will do it at 60Ghz:

RBwAPG-60adkit

https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-Wireless-RBwAPG-60ad-wireless-duplex/dp/B077992GG3


This kit will do it at 900Mhz:

https://www.gnswireless.com/products/non-line-of-sight-rf-ethernet-bridge


60ghz is less expensive, has way more bandwidth, but has shorter range. Almost nothing in a stadium environment would be using 60ghz yet. 60 and 80ghz are both quite recently available.

900mhz is more expensive, has way less bandwidth, but has vastly superior range and wall penetration capabilities. 900mhz would also compete with old cordless phones though.

Take a look at the Mikrotik Wireless Wire.

Use a pair of Mikrotik WAP60G. They operate in the 60GHz spectrum and will provide Gigabit speed at that range. A pair is $164 on Amazon right now.

Bang for buck, these things are unbeatable. I've used them as temporary links backhaul links for events for over a year, became first choice over Ubiquiti.

If you can't run a cable, buy this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077992GG3