Reddit reviews Prometheus Rising

This stone was placed in Haverhill, Massachusetts. This is my seventeen placed stone in the United States. See my history for the others, placed in different states.
I’m an over the road trucker so this is how I’m able to travel quickly.

Two people were involved in calling child protective services on my wife while I’m away traveling. My wife is a stay at home mother who has cancer. The two people spread vicious rumors that I had abandoned my wife and children, called Child Protective Services, and then claimed they were going to personally adopt our children.

1. The 33 days to completely neutralize the two individuals involved are up. The one who was close friends with my wife lost her job. She was later seen mowing her own and her neighbors yards to have her rent reduced by her landlord.
   The second individual involved deleted her Facebook, reported to mutual friends that she was “backing down from her CPS threat” and was now “scared”.
   After completing this 33 Stone Ritual I will be solely focusing on mass healing rituals for my wife and putting this specific retribution ritual behind me. I don’t believe I will be doing revenge rituals again.
   
   
2. Who knows about my magic practice/ curse?... Absolutely no one knows I practice any form of magic. My wife knows I meditate and thinks I’m a bit woo, but that’s it.
   
   
3. I’m using sharpie to draw King Paimon’s sigil on a palm size stone that I find at or near the location. This is a show of appreciation for King Paimon who’s gone out of his way for me.
   
   
4. How did I evoke King Paimon?.... I meditated into gnosis and called upon King Paimon, I do not use physical means of doing so. This is just MY method. I commented this to a fellow Redditor:
   My wife called me sobbing while I was it of town for traveling. She told me everything that was happening. After we got done talking I went into a rage where I I wanted to hurt someone. I don’t remember ever being that angry but I laid down and just meditated. I eventually called on King Paimon begging for help. This ritual flashed into my head, along with the number 3.
   I added 33 stones in 33 States to go big and I wanted plenty of time to do it, so 333 days. It just felt right.
   So I just focused all of my energy on these two people involved. I asked for them to be tormented, suck their health and energy and give it to my wife as retribution.
   
   
5. If you think this is going to disrupt your own magical practices by me placing these sigilized stones in your neck of the woods then place your own and fight back. I’m not going to stop until this is done. And I have more rituals planned after that which will span the entire country. There are quite a few magicians talking and acting witchy, but only a handful doing something. Are you a magician or just a bum who shares edgy witchy memes?
   
   
6. Why King Paimon? ....I chose King Paimon because he’s the most powerful entity I’ve been working with for the longest and he’s been patient and understanding with me. You go to those you know when you have a big favor.
   
   
7. What are the basics or how to summon entities?...
   I am not an expert. I’m an eclectic magician that uses what works and tosses what doesn’t. This ritual works for me, it might not for you. If you are a beginner you need to get your basics down. You wouldn’t make a paper airplane then suddenly decide you’re ready to fly fighter jets. Please for your safety read the basics.
   But here is a very basic appetizer to give you a little edge to the machete that you’ll need to carve your own path in the jungle that is occult information:
   
   Start here: This is an easy comic to give you the basics and get your feet wet.
   
   https://www.deviantart.com/bluefluke/art/The-Psychonaut-Field-Manual-FOURTH-PDF-EDITION-530005584
   
   This is kind of a text book that you can follow if you want a thelemic approach.
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0970449607?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
   
   Also I recommend Gems of the equinox.
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1578634172?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
   
   This is very beginner friendly and highly recommended:
   https://www.amazon.com/Prometheus-Rising-Robert-Anton-Wilson/dp/0692710604
   
   This is a fantastic meditation app, free, and very beginner friendly.
   https://www.insighttimer.com/meditation-app
   
   I do not recommend summoning powerful entities without first summoning “safer” beings such as ancestral spirits, but you are going to do what you want. I did. And it’s worked for me. But PROTECT yourself.
   
   You need to get meditation and focus down pat. I’d recommend evoking an ancestor first since they should have your best interests. Then moving onto other entities.
   The Goetia can be friendly, indifferent, malevolent, or simply plain alien. (Think lovecraftian incompressible)
   *I know King Paimon and Duke Bune are friendly to beginners, overly patient and open as long as you recognize their rank, are humble and respectful.
   This doesn’t mean try to enslave them. That’s not going to work out great for you. What would happen if you blackmailed a powerful head of state of a country? It’d annoy him and in turn people would find you suicided with a double shotgun blast. Approach them like you would meeting a friendly CEO and you should be fine.
   
   Ultimately realize that you can follow in the footsteps of someone else, but that’s only going to put you on the path devoid of what will really fulfill you. You eventually need to fly, baby bird, And ever off cutting your own path. Don’t get to smug when you get a little practice under your belt.
   There’s always someone better than you, mr. 3rd level armchair wizard who collects 1st edition books from the bookstore only three people in Portland know about.
   
   
8. Thank you for all the kind words and support! And to people who disagree with this ritual, and have been amicably in their disagreement, thank you as well!

Yes, but I find sigils to be temporary, and because most forms of depression are heavily interwoven with habits, a sigil will mostly be ineffective.

(Before I get started, I just want to say CBT therapy works and works well on depression. I highly recommend it. This is because ending depression takes multiple steps and it's far easier to get a guide than to walk that path alone.)

(Also, it's best to take this comment slow. There is A LOT here. No need to get overwhelmed.)

A sigil, for me, and similar techniques, tends to do what I call a "one off" where something goes the way I want it to in that time, but then things go back to normal. That is, for me a sigil rarely changes my habits.

(However, chaos magick has some long term techniques. More on that at the bottom.)

When it comes to long term changes, the best course of action I've found is:

1. Being mindful (from meditation eg /r/TheMindIlluminated).
   
   
2. From mindfulness, I then identify what habits I have, and then identify better alternative responses to situations that cause those habits. This involved for me a lot of googling situations and finding more healthy responses to deal with difficult situations.
   
   
3. Constantly work on those habits making them normal and eventually effortless, because they are my new default behavior.
   
   Depression has a lot to do with habits, but the habits that cause depression can vary from person to person. imho the hardest kind of depression is the person who blindly disbelieves that they can change their depression and even remove it with work. This sort of blind doubt is a habit causing one kind of depression. This habit creates a sort of depression because if you default to no instead of yes you'll not end up doing much in life creating a sort of sloth, and a near opposite of depression is being both physically inactive and socially inactive.
   
   Another habit that creates depression is not doing exercises. 1 day a week a 20 min+ walk should be done to stay healthy. (If not more.) Many who do not do this fall into one kind of depression. Being physically healthy is a good habit to gain.
   
   Another habit that can cause depression is not having friends irl. Online is fine, but irl is better. Technically it is the feeling of loneliness that can cause this kind of depression, so not everyone gets depressed who hide under a rock, but for the average person, this is the case. Also, in this context, a friend is someone you want to hang out with one on one from time to time. (And if you're thinking, "Oh great!" I've been there. There are many ways to gain friends, starting with googling for help. This is step #2 above.)
   
   Depression can come from procrastination, and procrastination can have many different habits that can cause it: For example, if you rely on others, and others are not around to help you, it's easy to fall into the habit of getting stuck or procrastinating instead of getting things done. Another habit is thinking about a problem instead of physically getting up and doing the first step, often blindly without thinking. Overthinking causes procrastination. Another habit that causes procrastination is following ones feelings in the moment. This is a particularly nasty one. Envisioning a beneficial future (which is a kind of magick) and then valuing that future over how you currently feel is a must to get rid of procrastination. However, some feelings in the moment do matter, like when choosing what kind of food to eat, or seeing if it isn't safe to be doing a task or other situations. This is a skill that takes practice.
   
   Instant gratification is a big one. Too much of it and it's super easy to get depressed. If I had to guess, in the modern age with Reddit, youtube, and Facebook, instant gratification is probably the #1 cause of depression today. This doesn't mean you have to cut these services cold turkey, but they should be reserved to the end of the day, after daily tasks are done, otherwise you're back to procrastinating.
   
   And there are more habits that can cause depression that can be changed, like expecting the worse. I covered this one a bit earlier in the defaulting to no bit. Expecting the worse in things and having incorrect expectations can also cause anxiety.
   
   And many more.. the trick is to be mindful enough to identify what habits you have that are causing you particular kind of depression. (Depression is inactivity.. lacking productive activity, physical activity, and/or irl social activity, so any habits that create that kind of inactivity.) For many it's only one or two habits, and there is a high chance you will not even have to dig for it, because I've listed the majority of habits people might have in this clusterfuck of a comment.
   
   Chaos magick: Being nihilistic can cause a kind of existential depression. Likewise being pessimistic and or "a realist" can cause a kind of depression too. These are both perspectives, and at the heart of chaos magick is being able to change perspectives to fit whatever works best in the moment. So therefore, chaos magick can cure one of the more common kinds of depression. For information on how to do this the book Prometheus Rising is a fun and quick read, though you have to read the whole book and do some of the exercises to really get a handle on it. The book is also a prerequisite for chaos magick, so if you're curious exploring the most powerful kind of magick, reading PR is two birds with one stone.
   
   edit: lol derp. This is r/chaosmagick.

> Think that's not accurate.

You're seem to be thinking from the part of your brain that ususally does the wanting.

maybe read some Kahneman - Thinking fast and Slow or Robert A. Wilson - Prometheus rising to get a better understanding. There's also good training exercises in the latter one.

Oh, it's so hard to pick just three... but I would feel comfortable recommending these:

https://www.amazon.com/Prometheus-Rising-Robert-Anton-Wilson/dp/0692710604/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492139963&sr=8-1&keywords=prometheus+rising

https://www.amazon.com/Not-His-Image-Gnostic-Ecology/dp/193149892X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492139398&sr=8-1&keywords=not+in+his+image

https://www.amazon.com/Seth-Speaks-Eternal-Validity-Soul/dp/1878424076/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492140107&sr=8-1&keywords=seth+speaks

I try to read a little bit of everything, but the main topics I enjoy reading about are religion, history, philosophy, occultism/esotericism, parapolitics, UFOlogy, and psychology.

I was introduced to the Occult by books like Prometheus Rising and Undoing Yourself.

Obviously I may be biased but I think this is the best way to enter the occult, with a paradigm that rejects absolute paradigms.

People will try and tell you that what they've read or believe is the Truth, and most of those people will be fools.

It's possible some of them are right, that there is a Truth out there that can be expressed in our 3d language, but I think that that is unlikely.

I think the Truth is more like 4d toys or like the blind men and the elephant. You can only get a piece, a snapshot of a perspective, but the Truth has more dimensions than your mind.

You probably know Terrence Mckenna but if you aren't that familiar, I just linked a lecture to someone else that I think you might appreciate.

Eros and the Eschaton

And let's not forget about the most magical thing of all--music.

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> There is also a book called Prometheus Rising that might help you there. It goes into the social spectrum of personalities and the somatic effects that thought scripts have on the body.

Thanks for dropping that in. I just bought the book from Amazon because of this comment. I've put off reading one of Robert Anton Wilson's books for far too long. Here is the description for anyone else interested.

>Imagine trying to make sense of an amalgam of Timothy Leary's eight neurological circuits, G.I. Gurdjieff's self-observation exercises, Alfred Korzybski's general semantics, Aleister Crowley's magical theorems, and the several disciplines of Yoga; not to mention Christian Science, relativity, quantum mechanics, and many other approaches to understanding the world around us. That is exactly what Robert Anton Wilson does in Prometheus Rising. In short, this is a book about how the human mind works and what you can do to make the most of yours.

>"Robert Anton Wilson speaks for that tiny but indispensable minority who are changing the way we think. To read him is to learn what the future holds, how to be part of the future and how to help create the future." -- Robert Shea
"The man's glittering intelligence won't let you rest. First he shocks, then he enlightens. One is never the same after reading him. With each new book I welcome his wisdom, laced with his special brand of crazy humor." -- Alan Harrington, author of The Immortalist

>"Bob has done it again for the first time ever! This book is everything I ever wanted to write in a practical guidebook on how to get here from there, and he's-as usual-first in print again! Just the exercise on finding quarters has paid for the book many times over." --E. J. Gold

Amazon link

I've read the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and Rumi, so don't think I am a stranger to the idea of God as all; at times I find it so attractive, even, that I joke that I could be a "Hinjew." But having read the Torah far more times than the average man--although I do not know how many times you've done so--I can instantly spot confirmation bias regarding it. After reading these texts, you looked back at the Torah with the assumption that "God is all," when, in fact, the evidence of such in the text of the Torah itself is so thin. Off the top of my mind, I can think of maybe 5 verses in the Pentateuch that may plausibly--although not likely--relate to this Hindu/Buddhist/Dauist/Sufi view of "God is all." The Bible, unlike some find pleasure in believing, is not a book with infinite information density; its writers were human, all too human, and--unless the text were to be grossly misconstrued--were unfamiliar with such a conception.
But this won't convince you, as you seem to be locked into that reality tunnel. In myself as well, as I said, the thought often appears and brings me much solace. But at other times, I'll ridicule it (perhaps owing to the on-off stages of my depression). So, if you want an idea of what I'm talking about, try picking up a copy Prometheus Rising and take a look at yourself through another lense. You think that since you've found solace, you've discovered the meaning of consciousness, but you have much to explore.

P.S. There's no such thing as ground-breaking thought "for my age." There is only thought. I would take that as another insult to my intelligence, but after this discussion I know you mean well.
P.P.S. If you are actually interested in Prometheus, I can send you a pdf copy I have.