Reddit reviews Psychopathy: Antisocial, Criminal, and Violent Behavior

OK, it looks like we're getting someplace and quite honestly, when we started this... I didn't have high hopes.

I think I can break down our areas of disagreement into several different points.

First, let's tackle Antifa and what they actually do. This is a ridiculous position and essentially it's a parroting of what right wingers used to do. You keep changing the goalposts. First its "this doesn't happen, bring me an example" then that happens so you switch to "that's one example, bring me many" so then that happens and you switch to "bring me enough examples to show that it happens 51 percent of the time" etc.

Google Antifa and Trump rallies for a history of Antifa showing up and attacking people at Trump rallies. Not KKK or Richard Spencer events, Trump rallies. The Washington post... a notoriously left leaning rag, even reported on it.

There is a history of violence from the left [and a narrative blaming Trump from the press] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVvb5_rMGyY) but it's clear who the aggressors were

Now it's important to note this is before the Black Bloc and Antifa stuff was in full swing. So while leftist terrorists organized against Trump supporters, eventually patriot prayer joins the fray in 2016, this is after Antifa began attacking Trump supporters, not before. Previously Antifa confronts Trump supporters without any protective groups.

They called Milo a white supremacist. Milo... a gay guy who expresses concern about Islam because of homosexuality being outlawed in the ME. Yes he uses examples of extremists throwing gays off of roofs, but he's not wrong. The treatment of homosexuals in Muslim countries isn't a radical thing, it's an every day Muslim thing. Attitudes on wife beating are not held by "just a handful of extremists", and if you don't believe me, listen to them

So it seems to me that you've been fed a series of lies about Islam, and about Antifa. If you defend Islam, then you're a bad guy, period. If you defend some perverted peaceful, progressive, gay accepting, women's rights having version of Islam... OK, but that's really unpopular. Read the Pew poll on Islam world wide, and if you're not familiar, this is what governments and lawyers and political scientists use for data. Pew is the gold standard in polling research.

So, in short, Antifa bad... even though it may have attracted people with good intentions, you're really short on actual white supremacists so their targets have largely been just Trump supporters. Now that there are alt right hate groups out there, and I freely admit there are... I don't give a shit about clashes between those two groups. I think on that we can agree.

But this narrative that they're "emboldened by Trump" is obvious bullshit. They were a reaction to left wing violence. White supremacists were attracted to these groups by the prospect of fighting against socialists. This is a tactic to start a war, by dragging in already polarized and militarized groups.

I'm sorry you can't see the connection between previous leftist groups in the US and the ones here now. I've provided the information, at some point you'll accept that information and we can move on. If you want to tell yourself that these groups disappeared into thin air and were forged again from nothing, go ahead. But it isn't true. If you don't believe me, look at Antifa world wide and explain to me why there are so many Antifa cells in countries without a Trump. Where did they come from? How are they so well organized for such a decentralized movement? The answer has already been provided. Because these socialist groups change names, but not missions.

On to law. I think I can see some common ground in that we both agree that drug laws are stupid. Vice laws, entirely in my view, are stupid. If I'm not hurting anyone, you don't have a right to regulate it.

But a system of law and law enforcement can't be selective about how laws are enforced any more than we already have done so. Civil suits and criminal law are already separated in terms of enforcement. If you violate copywrite law, the swat team doesn't knock in your door. Well, not initially. But at some point in order to enforce laws, you must use force.

There is a process to determine what laws we will use force to enforce and which ones we will just whine about and maybe garnish your paycheck over. If you don't like that system, welcome to the much larger group of people who don't like that system. I'd gladly engage in a planning session to change that system and am all kinds of open to suggestions.

That said, your "laws are subjective" argument is ridiculous. Notice I say that the argument is ridiculous. Which brings me to my next subject.

I didn't say you were a psychopath, that's a question only you can answer... or you know.. a trained professional. But there are tonnes of books on the subject. here's one it's only $34 and is I think it's still covered under text subsidies at some colleges. Dunno, I'm old so.

What I said was that the things you were saying sounded psychotic. That you should be able to kill police officers because you don't agree with drug laws. That police officers should be subject to violence because arresting dangerous criminals and non dangerous ones who resist sometimes requires violence. That's psychotic. Saying that laws shouldn't apply to you if you don't agree with them is psychotic. Just saying.

I never said YOU were. Just some of your statements.

As to western imperialism, again you paint this picture of these countries being these peaceful, prosperous countries prior to US and ONLY US involvement in them. Or UK and ONLY UK involvement in them. This isn't truth. Most of these countries were shit holes run by despots and the concept that the citizens there were "doing just fine" before western influence is ridiculous. In most cases there was desperate poverty, no electricity, poor sanitation and no access to communication or medicine prior to western influence.

I'm not saying these places are a paradise now, I'm saying you're blaming it all on the western imperialists is just a completely ignorant take on history and current events.

The war in Iraq was started when a country invaded another country. We didn't just ship a bunch of Oil to the US so we could have 50 cent gas again. Do you see 50 cent gas? I don't see 50 cent gas. After Iraq 1, we were in a defacto shooting war with them for like 11 years. They starved their people, hoarded medical supplies and then decried that the sanctions were stifling them. A cry that many leftists believed despite the fact that they were not true.

So, I don't know what to tell you, man. But this anti western imperialism shtick is literally arguing in favor of despots, murderers and rapists being in charge. Never has the common man been so empowered than in the western world.