Reddit reviews Sexual Politics

Si vamos a hablar seriamente de feminismo, hay que partir por Simone de Beauvoir, el segundo sexo es la obra fundamental para entender la reivindicación feminista histórica

Este es light, pero es bueno para tener una perspectiva histórica

Este es más cercano a una revisión histórica académica. Se ha convertido en clásico en los últimos años

Este otro ayuda bastante a comprender la segunda ola, que es el core de la principal reivindicación de las manifestaciones de hoy en día

Y para una visión más local, la humanas tiene un par de cosas buenas

Además de lo que recomendó /u/Insania2014 que es good shit, especialmente Kirkwook.

No entraré en la crítica al feminismo (Camille Paglia tiene unos libros de ensayos buenos) o la tercera ola porque no he leido una obra que sintetise el fenómeno, así que no me voy a arriesgar.

> It Hurts To Be Alive and Obsolete
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>Often when men are attracted to me, they feel ashamed and conceal it. They act as if it were ridiculous. If they do become involved, they are still ashamed and may refuse to appear publicly with me. Their fear of mockery is enormous. There is no prestige attached to having sex with me.
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>Since we are all far more various sexually than we are supposed to be, often, in fact, younger men become aware of me sexually. Their response is similar to what it is when they find themselves feeling attracted to a homosexual: they turn those feelings into hostility and put me down.
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>Listen to me! Think what it is like to have most of your life ahead and be told you are obsolete! Think what it is like to feel attraction, desire, affection towards others, to want to tell them about yourself, to feel that assumption on which self-respect is based, that you are worth something, and that if you like someone, surely he will be pleased to know that. To be, in other words, still a living woman, and to be told that every day that you are not a woman but a tired object that should disappear. That you are not a person but a joke. Well, I am a bitter joke. I am bitter and frustrated and wasted, but don’t you pretend for a minute as you look at me, forty-three, fat, and looking exactly my age, that I am not as alive as you are and that I do not suffer from the category into which you are forcing me.

A concluding excerpt from It Hurts To Be Alive and Obsolete: The Aging Woman by Zoe Moss, included in Sisterhood Is Powerful , edited by Robin Morgan.

Other books were...?
Our Bodies, Ourselves?
Sexual Politics?
The Feminine Mystique?
dunno.

Sccording to Kate Millett’s “Sexual Politics,” Germaine Greer’s “The Female Eunuch,” and Shulamith Firestone’s “The Dialectic of Sex, the institution and practice of marriage and the nuclear family is awful and should be dismantled. And since these books were written the number of two parent households has indeed plummeted. Forty percent of American children are now born to single mothers. This rate of non-marital births, combined with the nation’s high divorce rate, means that around half of all American children will spend part of their childhood in a single-parent home.

> Try reading the entire side bar including The Manipulated Man.

I have read that.

>Here, recommend me a book that describes your view, and I'll check it out too.

That's tough. I can recommend you a good primer on pre-2nd wave feminism, 2nd wave feminism, and critical theory. There's a long list of over 200 years of literature and articles that have gotten it to where it is today. Here's a few.

https://www.amazon.com/Second-Sex-Simone-Beauvoir/dp/030727778X - Excellent place to start.

It's likely in your local library.

After that...

https://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Politics-Kate-Millett/dp/023117425X

Another place to head to next. Controversial, most people have issue with some of things in here. There is no central authority, it's just lots of ideas and challenging yourself that's at the core of it.

https://www.amazon.com/Justice-Gender-Family-Susan-Moller/dp/0465037038

This is another good book to read on the subject after the first two. It's the first academic application of feminist theory to political theory.

That would set the groundwork.

As far as one that describes my view, not sure if I can do that, but that's cuz most people can't do that. I take ideas from multiple books/articles.

>I'll ask, If Feminism is about equality, why not simply fight for Egalitarianism?

Baggage is one reason. The term itself, egalitarianism, has a historical baggage associated with a pretty screwed up past.

Not only that, but feminism is about the advocacy of women's equality to that of men in areas where they are not equal. This is open to interpretation. If we are talking higher-level structural equality on a large scale, there is still much inequality. If we are talking about perceptions of women and stereotypes, there is much inequality. It's one way to look at it.

Also egalitarianism is not just about gender equality by definition, it deals with broader egalitarian concerns like social status, wealth, etc... It's all about catching flies appropriately. One issue at a time. Feminism is focused on gender inequalities, egalitarianism is focused on the total sum of all inequalities. Vast majority of feminists are egalitarian in regards to gender. They may not be in regards to economic status, they probably believe in free market capitalism for instance.

Also this seems like splitting hairs, what does it matter? I don't see many people rhetorically questioning why you call yourself red pill (haven't seen it, not saying they don't).