Reddit reviews The Armenian Genocide: Evidence from the German Foreign Office Archives, 1915-1916

I don't think you will find many nations which have had a catastrophic event happen to them, worse when a similar huge crime committed against them, to not be affected for many generations to come.

> I, here, being the devils advocate, would remind their claims on the lack of evidence connecting the officials in the field to the CUP generals. So, in that case, we can only hypothetically accuse some abstract inner group in the CUP. Is their claim correct or are there any direct evidence? If not, would you, as the lineage of the victims, feel complete if there is a symbolic (it was way before) trial towards an abstract entity in the CUP?

The issue of "lack of evidence" that you bring up, is a huge misconception many laypeople have about genocide law. This concerns the proof of genocidal intent part of the law governing the crime of genocide. The very recent case laws from ICTY and ICTR amply confirm that intent inferred from circumstantial evidence more than enough satisfies the intent requirement of genocide, among others. This is already settled by many experts in the field, such as William Schabas, "the world expert on the law of genocide and international law" who actually has a very strict interpretation of the genocide law and considers that only 3 genocides have been committed in the past century, Armenian, Jewish (and Gypsy), and Rwandan (1, 2, his WP entry). I would suggest a recent literature on the subject which tackles the issue from the legal point of view, such as "An Inconvenient Genocide" by Geoffrey Robertson QC. EDIT: And this is even conceding that here is no direct evidence of orders, which many scholars say that they exist, and also ignoring the German Archives which were opened for the first time just a few years ago and implicate not only the CUP but also the Kaiser German government (Excellent documentary on youtube which exposes this), which is precisely one of the pillars of the recent Bundestag resolution.

No courts exist with jurisdiction to take the Armenian Genocide case to trial and probably no such courts can ever exist for obvious reasons, among them being that the law is not retroactively applicable. The closest is the ICTJ report, which obviously is more of a legal analysis than a court and was created prior to the existence of the ICTY and ICTR case laws. You also cannot have a mock-court. I don't believe such a thing has ever existed. Obviously if such a thing were to hypothetically exist it would be a satisfactory solution. But being realistic, the closest would be to target Turkish assets in states where common law may permit some form of trials, and it just happens that two of the most important states where this could be done have treaties with Turkey blocking such proceedings, the US and the UK. Coincidence why they don't officially recognize the Armenian Genocide?

And lastly, in a way the perpetrators were punished, the issue is with the successor government having engaged in denial, historical revisionism and negation, forming the opinion of its subjects against any wrongdoings by its predecessor government, blaming the victims and basically having continued the denial policies set up by the perpetrators to this very day.

You are right armenians never lived in Ottoman empire you just conquered our lands without any armenians living there 😆👌


https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-07/tfg-hus071119.php

https://www.amazon.com/Armenian-Genocide-Evidence-Archives-1915-1916/dp/1782381430

http://www.genocide1915.org/fragorochsvar_konventioner.html

I wonder why all Armenian diaspora grandparents know Turkish language.