Reddit reviews Delusions of Gender: How Our Minds, Society, and Neurosexism Create Difference

You might find the book delusions of gender of interest on this topic.

None at all...it's almost the opposite for me. I can't tell you how many times I've had my heart broken by cute trans baristas at the local queer cafe. :(

>emerging science is showing that transwomen have a brain that morphologically female and transmen have a brain that is morphologically male

The science behind gendered brain morphology is inconclusive and often misrepresented. Cordelia Fine recently wrote an excellent book on gender and the brain called Delusions of Gender: How Our Minds, Society, and Neurosexism Create Difference, which does an exceptional job of examining the actual science and debunking a lot of claims. Definitely worth a read if you're interested in neuroscience, gender, and sexuality.

Won't lie, I probably won't sit down for a 3 hour youtube video while I'm still in the office.

Found this tasty quote from him though, with a quick bit of google-fu:

> Milo: We hear a lot from scientists, we hear a lot in particular the female scientists, but the fact is that there are some, there is some, reason to suppose that there is an advantage to being a man in certain subjects. There’s reason to suppose that gender essentialism, biological determinism, whatever you want to call it the fact that there are male brains and female brains may indeed have some basis in science.

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I'll add that this view of male/female brains is now wholly debunked in science. Additional.

So maybe he perceives a broader range of male identities than Joe Rogan but at root he still believes in the same (debunked and harmful) idea, just to a different degree.

According to http://www.amazon.com/Delusions-Gender-Society-Neurosexism-Difference/dp/0393068382 the current movement around gender brain differences is based on shoddy research or misunderstood/misinterpreted research.

I believe the conclusion is that there is little evidence at the moment either way.

> At the same time, people get angry the second a question can be answered by evolutionary psychology, especially in a way that reinforces gender norms. While evolutionary psych is a new and contentious field, it lends solid, scientific reasoning for all kinds of gender norms, among other things. That upsets people who believe gender is entirely a social construct.

I'm sure it offends the sensibilities of clean-slate-ists, but I think its a mistake to think that the 'people who get angry' are so easily pidgeon-holed and written off. I think that there is probably a tendency in popular science to overstate and oversimplify the differences between men and women, and a tendency to think of genetics as biological fatalism, rather than acknowledging the way environmental factors like culture and upbringing can affect behavior universally (sociology), and even alter gene expression (epigenetics). Whenever you take a study like this and immediately take the position of the biological fatalist and look for the evopsych explanation, you're discounting the immense power of these other factors, and just plain doing bad science. It's not so hard to think that our cultural assumptions about men and women create a bias that makes us want to see those assumptions reflected in our data. And I think that's a good reason to be very cautious.

Edit:
I've found Delusions of Gender to be a good book that argues from a scientific perspective about the way popular science is overstating our differences.

Every single "person with similar views as nolimitsoldier" I have encountered has always fallen into 1 of the following groups.

1. "12-24 Naive" This is the age where people tend to dismiss feminism without taking any initiative to learn about new and old feminist theories. I understand why so many people in this group so readily believe misconceptions about feminism. It is due to lack of knowledge or background regarding the new and old feminist theories. Also why nolimitsoldier believes all feminists think they are artists / photographers is beyond me. I blame the countless people who don't take the time to learn about the concepts and definitions regarding feminism and much of the media. Isn't until people mature and take the initiative to learn about feminism and realize that modern societies are still patriarchal, misogynist, and sexist.
   
   
2. "Man Eaters" This misconception is the standard among those who still disregard feminism. Most I have met lack any true knowledge on the feminist theory and believe the myth that all feminist are hairy man hating lesbians. Feminists come from all background and genders so this couldn't possibly true. This stereotype is false. Myth:Feminists are man hating lesbians
   
   
3. "Corporate" Again more misconceptions. People complain about feminism, woman, etc, while not understanding what feminism has to do with the plight of the woman. At the end of the day it'll depend on the person and the person they're respecting if they're a good leader or not. Because believe it or not people come from all different backgrounds and cultures! It just goes against our cultured societal beliefs that women can be good leaders. **A side example of this is the iron my shirt incident with Hillary Clinton
   
   
4. "more bullshit" The definition of feminist varies in each textbook but they all mean the same thing in the end: people seeking the equal treatment of women. Men already dominate the world. This hasn't allowed women to dominate or control men in any way. And feminists aren't seeking the domination of men, we are seeking the equality of genders.
   
   To learn more about feminism you can read or watch the following websites,books, or videos:
   
   Youtube Videos or Channels:
   
   

• Tony Porter:A Call to Men
  
• Feminism Survey:Men on the Street
  
• Missrepresentation Documentary Trailer
  
• Joss Whedon's Equality Now speech
  
• Feminist Frequency
  
• Trixie Films
  
  Websites/Blogs:
  
  
• Finally Feminism 101
  
• Feminist Frequency
  
• Geek Feminism
  
• The F-Word
  
• Feminist Peace Network
  
• Gender Across Borders
  
• Feministing
  
• Feministe
  
• Tiger Beatdown
  
• Feminist Teacher
  
• The Feminist Hub
  
• Lipstick Feminists
  
  Books:
  
  
• Feminist Theory: From Margin to Center by Bell Hooks
  
• Feminism: The Essential Historical Writings
  
• Delusions of Gender: How Our Minds, Society, and Neurosexism Create Difference by Cordelia Fine
  
• Gender Knot Revised Ed: Unraveling Our Patriarchal Legacy by Allan G. Johnson
  
• Feminist Theory: A Reader by Wendy Kolmar
  
• The Second Wave: A Reader in Feminist Theory
  
• Third Wave Feminism: Expanded
  
• Different Wavelengths: Studies of the Contemporary Women's Movement
  
• Feminism without Borders: Decolonizing Theory, Practicing Solidarity by Chandra Talpade Mohanty
  
• Defending Our Dreams: Global Feminist Voices for a New Generation
  
• Listen Up: Voices from the Next Feminist Generation
  
• Enlightened Sexism by Susan J. Douglas
  
• Yes Means Yes: Visions of Female Sexual Power and A World Without Rape
  
• The Equality Illusion: The Truth about Women and Men Today by Kat Banyard
  
• Reclaiming the F Word: The New Feminist Movement by Catherine Redfern and Kristin Aune
  
• Transforming a Rape Culture by Emilie Buchwald, Pamela Fletcher and Martha Roth
  
• Well-Behaved Women Seldom Make History by Laurel Ulrich
  
• Men Speak Out: Views on Gender, Sex, and Power

Have you read Delusions of Gender ?

That is a WebMD article. I sincerely hope that you're not basing your opinion on scientific fact off of WebMD. The idea that there are definitive male and female brains is entirely unsupported through vigorous scientific testing. Although there are small differences, they are minimal and vary widely. Here are just a few articles to jump off of:

http://www.pnas.org/content/112/50/15468
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811915007697

I would also encourage you to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Delusions-Gender-Society-Neurosexism-Difference/dp/0393068382?ie=UTF8&qid=&ref_=tmm_hrd_swatch_0&sr=