Reddit reviews Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment

Look, I don't care about any of the race crap that people have bitched about. I'm even open to being somewhat flexible on the origin story, but you shit on the character of Doom and you go too far. The last two FF movies did exactly this. So no, I don't think I'm just making stuff up.

I'm not open to one of the greatest villains in literary history (yes, i mean that with out an ounce of irony or hyperbole) going from a scientific/magical genius (very nearly on par with Richards for science and Dr. Strange for magic) self-made-monarch and turning him into just an 'antisocial hacker'.

So, I posit to you, that going from this or that way of hollywood representing hacking to the mortal man who came from nothing, conquered his own country and has single handedly beaten nearly everyone worth beating and still walked away just isn't possible.

(except for the squirrels, but that's a story for another time)

Tell me about his armor, tell me about his mistakes and how they drive him. Tell me how he's more complicated, more human than any other villain, how he really does not see himself as the bad guy and why he's right. This man has been judged worthy by the Panther God (a test of character arguably fewer people have passed than have lifted Mjolner), went to hell itself to rescue the soul of his mother with a selfless act, who delivered his mortal enemy's child in order to save her and the mother when nobody else could.

If they do the character justice, I'll be the first one back here patting them on the back and shouting how wrong I was. I just don't see that happening. 60 years of publication and they have the gall to say they can't do a different story. Try shitting on a new villain. Mole Man, Kang, Abraxis, Dragon Man, The Beyonder, Terrax... plenty of other villains with less baggage.

TL;DR - hollywood doesn't have a good track make hacking look cool. It didn't work in Hackers, The Net, Swordfish, or Wargames. Fox doesn't have a good track record for doing Dr. Doom well. See to previous FF movies. I want to be wrong. I doubt I am.

For Scarlet witch:

Nights of Wundagore: https://www.amazon.com/Avengers-Nights-Wundagore-David-Michelinie/dp/0785137211

Vision and the Scarlet Witch: https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Scarlet-Witch-1985-1986-12-ebook/dp/B01BT87YIW/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=vision+and+the+scarlet+witch&qid=1557511079&s=gateway&sr=8-9

Dan Abnett Mini from the 90s: https://www.amazon.com/SCARLET-WITCH-January-LANNING-ABNETT/dp/B001FW4UGM/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=scarlet+witch+dan+abnett&qid=1557510502&s=books&sr=1-3-catcorr

Busiek's run on Avengers: https://www.amazon.com/Avengers-Assemble-Vol-1998-2004-ebook/dp/B00AR0655M/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=kurt+busiek+avengers&qid=1557510533&s=books&sr=1-1

Her latest solo by James Robinson: https://www.amazon.com/Scarlet-Witch-Vol-Witches-Road/dp/078519682X/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=robinson+scarlet+witch&qid=1557510680&s=books&sr=1-3

For Scarlet Witch with Doctor Strange:

Doctor Strange Vol 2 #60: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Doctor_Strange_Vol_2_60

Scarlet Witch appeared in some issues of Aaron's run on Doctor Strange. I think it was specifically in the Last Days of Magic arc: https://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Strange-Vol-Last-Magic/dp/0785199330/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ZK90Y8QR9PR1KMBVSGPF

She also appeared in some issues of Doctor Strange: Damnation: https://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Strange-Damnation-Complete-Collection/dp/1302912607

For Doctor Strange by himself:

Triumph and Torment: https://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Strange-Doom-Triumph-Torment/dp/0871356600

The Oath: https://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Strange-Brian-K-Vaughan/dp/0785187863/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BY8T0W99BRQ3983J7D1P

Into Shamballa: https://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Strange-Shamballa-Marvel-Graphic/dp/0871351668

ok now that we had infinity war done well on the movies, my next goal ia to have some favorites of mine adapted. since doctor strange is super op in the movies, i think we should develop a relationship of him with doctor doom (triumph and torment pls) leading up to an eventual secret wars II (and I too ofc. could be back to back).

It's quite old, but you can try "Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment" amazon link

Doctor Doom and Dr. Strange go to Hell and fight Mephisto to save Doom's mom's spirit.

I'd recommend the Roger Stern run of Doc for getting started. (Doctor Strange Vol. 2 No. 27–75)

Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment is really enjoyable. Doctor Strange: The Oath is good and leads into his New Avenger appearances.

This one?

I'd pick up a full set of RAW comics vol. 1.

At the moment I'm looking for a reasonably priced Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom : Triumph and Torment.

Read Triumph and Torment for some early Strange (and Doom) stuff. Not to mention a great story all around.

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