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It's definitely cheaper than my other hobbies, flight simming and photography. Diverting my attention to vaping actually ended up saving me a bunch of cash.

In fact... DON'T take up flight simming

You first need this OR this

Then you're all like, wtf? Why doesn't it look anything like this

Then you buy one of these and realize that FSX doesn't support hyper threading since it's a POS software from 2006 when Microsoft stopped developing it. So you actually need one of these, overclocked of course.

Then you need realistic controls, your keyboard and mouse just won't do so you get a cheap joystick which is ok for the first few months, till you come to the conclusion that what you really need is a HOTAS controller.

Which is about the time you buy TrackIR, which tracks your head movement for added "realism"

This is of course precisely when you realize that you would rather fly general aviation aircrafts, like Cessnas and Boeings and military aviation is just not right for you, and you get a different controller, something like this.

That lasts you all of two months before you're sick and tired of the plasticky build quality and erroneous "null" zone so you go and buy one of these.

Now that you're comfortable spending money on your "hobby" you get into serious money territory and go ahead and buy instrumentation. Your setup now looks something like this

By this time you would have spent roughly $5000 or more on hardware and a whole bunch of software plug-ins and add-ons, because FSX by itself it's pretty basic.

You're now completely committed and have dreams of being a real pilot, you start to think about how you will justify buying a properly kitted out sim and actually "charge" people money to come sim at your home. And you buy something like this which of course comes without a yoke which you have to buy separately. And then add an overhead panel.

By now you are running FSX on multiple fast computers and have connected your iPad and other devices to your setup.

There are folks who have spent many hundreds of thousands of dollars on this "hobby".

Stick to vaping. It's just a whole lot cheaper.

i7-4770K (MSRP ~~$330)

Newegg: $552
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

Amazon: $489
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4770K-Quad-Core-Processor-BX80646I74770K/dp/B00CO8TBQ0

2 examples. I am also talking about new hardware not used.

For $2,000, you can score a pretty excellent VR dev rig.

If you're already using UE4, and you've got got your DK1, you're probably relatively familiar with the basic demands— The faster your CPU, the faster everything compiles, and more ability you have to get things done simultaneously outside your IDE. RAM is a similar story, as well letting you play with more polys and textures in whatever modeling program you use. For the GPU, various Oculus people have dropped the hint that you pretty much want a GTX 770 as a baseline for advanced apps [source]. That's consistent with what benchmarks have had to say about what it'll take to drive the (probably) 1440p CV1.

With regards to the OS, there are very few reasons to use Windows 7. You can read some reddit discussions about that here or here, but the moral of the story is that everything works better on 8 except maybe the layout, which you can change.

$2,000 is a good spot— it's pretty much where the bang-for-buck curve becomes a cliff. Here's about how that build looks:

Full-Featured VR Kit

| part | link | | price |
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|cpu|Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core Desktop Processor (3.5 GHz, 8 MB Cache, Intel HD graphics, BX80646I74770K)|amazon|$299.99|
|video card|EVGA GeForce GTX780 SuperClocked w/EVGA ACX Cooler 3GB GDDR5 384bit, DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready (03G-P4-2784-KR)|amazon|$509.99|
|ram|G.SKILL Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C11D-16GNT|newegg|$127.99|
|motherboard|ASRock Z87 PRO3 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard|newegg|$94.99|
|power supply|CORSAIR RM Series RM750 750W ATX12V v2.31 and EPS 2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply|newegg|$129.99|
|case|Corsair Carbide Series Black 400R Mid Tower Computer Case (CC-9011011-WW)|amazon|$79.99|
|ssd|Crucial M500 240GB SATA 2.5" 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal Solid State Drive CT240M500SSD1|newegg|$114.99|
|hard drive|Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive, Blue - OEM|newegg|$59.99|
|disc drive|Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 (Black)|amazon|$20.65|
|operating system|Windows 8.1 System Builder OEM DVD 64-Bit|amazon|$92.00|
|fans|Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)|amazon|$32.00|
|monitor|LG IPS234V-PN Black 23" 14ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor IPS 250 cd/m2 5,000,000:1x2|newegg|$299.98|
|||||
| |See current build price with shipping and tax| total | $1862.55|

Learn more and customize this build at kit.computer.


This leaves you with wiggle-room, to make a couple decisions based on your uses and preferences. You could bump one of the monitors up to 27" 1440p, you could bump the very capable GTX 780 up to a 780 Ti, you could move up to 32GB of RAM, increase the size of the SSD, or just pocket the change. It really depends on what apps you're trying to produce, and what your workflow looks like— if it were me, I'd lean towards the 1440p screen, just for workflow reasons.

If you have any questions (or anything to teach me), let me know!

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That monitor is quite enough.

Here's my suggestion for your new build:

• CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K ($340)
  
• GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 ($450)
  
• mainboard: MSI Z87-G45 ($150)
  
• cooling: Corsair H60 ($60)
  
  That's $1000 total.

I'm confused if you already built it ("Hey guys. I recently built a PC, using these parts") or this is list and you have yet to buy the parts. I am assuming you have yet to buy them.

i7 3770k ivy bridge

i7 4770K Haswell

I'd go for the Haswell over the last gen ivy bridge. Reduce RAM to 2x 4GB = 8GB (unless you want to do rendering, video editing, etc).

Use that money to get a 700 series GPU or AMD R9 280X. Also a higher wattage PSU would be something to think about. You could even go for an i5 for the processor which would save you $100 which you could put towards a GTX 770 or the AMD R9 280X. However, if you want to record/stream gameplay go for the i7.

This would last you a good while.
This is the same thing, but with more cores for programs that are better optimized for them.

i7 4770k is what I was referring to. However, it's pretty expensive, which is why I also suggested the i5 4670k. Both of these are based on the new Haswell architecture for Intel so they'll output a lot of power. As for GPUs, it seems the new GTX 750 TI could do a great job. It's relatively inexpensive and has a lot of horsepower for only $150. I'm not big on mobos, so I'm not going to be much help there.

My highest priority would be two items, which won't work unless they are both together.

This motherboard and this processor.

I expect that I'll have a long stint of job-searching without success when I finish my current contract (my job is getting cut, as are almost all of the same positions in my current location of Korea). This means lots of computer time between gaming and trying to figure out Android application development.

I probably won't be able to transport my current computer between countries - so many horror stories about anything electronic or fragile being broken, stolen, 'lost' or wrongfully seized by customs. My motherboard is already slightly broken (BSOD issue from physical damage to PCI-E slot which prevents crossfire due to configuration) and the processor dated.

Why does your sig show a 4770k? Which by the way has a totally normal and not sketchy product picture...

Thanks but could I replace these parts and still have that kinda quaitly:

• CPU
  
• MotherBoard
  
• GPU
  

Yes I believe I am, I have a

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970

Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core

Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 1866MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM

You must be looking at the wrong things. A 4770k on ebay can be little over $200. A 4770k on Amazon. A 4790K is $358 NEW.

These are i7's from the previous socket type so they still have some demand. Intel has only made modest gains since Sandy Bridge too. Anyways, a LGA 1150 motherboard can be had for $100 or less and I'm fairly sure you can reuse the stock heatsink.

>Which is something you clearly don't have since you are arguing that a prebuilt is better.

Being cheeky, are we?

>Send me a link to a prebuilt GAMING rig that is cheaper than a partlist with similar specs, lets say with a gtx 980.

Okay...

I just went to the HP business outlet website and I found a PC tower with Win8Pro (~$130), an intel core i7-4770 (~$370), and 500 GB HDD (~$50), 4 GB ram (~$40), a DVD drive (~$20), a business type tower case (~$20), a PSU you'll need to replace ($0), and no dedicated graphics card. I'm sure there are other components in that mix you'll re-use as well, but I'm not going to actually open the spec sheet.

These components individually add up to $670. The tower is being sold for $499. That means you'll save a minimum of $170 when starting your build with this pre-built.

The cost of your gtx980 is about $650 on a good day. Its a pretty neat card, but any rig it comes preloaded on is going to be overpriced gamer shit. So, the cost of building the above tower with that card is $670+$60 PSU+$650 GPU = $1380. The cost of buying and retrofitting is $499+$60 PSU+$650 GPU = $1209. That is a 12% discount.

Of course, that isn't a huge savings, but it is still a pretty good start for 10 minutes of looking. The reason you save money is because the PC gamer market has a premium markup: Buyers are willing to pay not only for good hardware, but for the best. The pre-built gaming rigs are marked up 30%-40%, and the gamer specific parts are also marked up 30%-40%. If you buy a business type computer, you'll be paying a lesser markup for the included components. That's why all of my computers have been workstation type models. When you buy laptops, look for models marketed to graphics designers. Business stuff and overstock is simply cheaper.

What's the difference between this and http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CO8TBQ0/

ill give you that witcher does look alot worse on Xbox then PC because the game is optimized that what my point is. Yes the PC version looks good but is terrible optimized so FPS is over the place why xbox setting arnt quite as good as high but is steady 25-30fps.

this is my point your missing. at launch the PC will in theory be better unless they pull a batman.

But at the moment xbox is better optimised and if you take RES and FPS into account the Xbox is better at the moment pending the iminet patch on PC.

As for you PC WOW US prices are cheap.

GTX 970 = 265
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOP536Y?keywords=Gtx970&qid=1450382089&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

MB = £123( closest i could find) Maximus VI gene
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MAXIMUS-Socket-4DDR3-Maximum-microATX/dp/B00E5Z052Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450382152&sr=8-1&keywords=Maximus+VI


CPU£235
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I74770K-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CO8TBQ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450382234&sr=8-1&keywords=I7+4770k

So thats the basics not including Ram, HDD, Case or power supply.

thats about £600 ($890) for three components at the basic level, plus another £200 for everything else, Plus extras, monitor unless you have this hooked up to TV and mouse etc.

as for a whore.

a, but it would still look better on PC, also I doubt that I would barely get 30fps I would maintain that consistently with a 970. Game can't even hit 20fps on xbox. like I said I haven't played it so I can't know for certain.

was a reply to my response of

This game is not optimised for PC at the moment it might look better but running at 10fps is it really.

As you have not played either version your point is null and void.

Next point where have i said

"PC is better DAE FINK IM RIGHT? "

or my title: "How about you title your posts, without your petty opinions on PC."

Didnt mention in my title and one line

"So far I'm impressed looks better and runs smoother then on PC. "

for you ill edit the text to say my PC

> Also ps3 games dont need os3 emulators they are DESIGNED for computers. For example im talking about the pc releaes for ps3 games found on steam.

That's a different matter. From what you said, it sounded like you wanted to play actual PS3 games on the computer. And the disc that you insert into the PS3 had code that's specially compiled and designed for the PS3, while the PC version of the game is completely different. (They probably share most of the code in the design stage, but the end products look very very different on a technical level, to the point of being different games.)

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Anyhow, I've been doing some comparison shopping, and I have some recommendations:

CPU (top recommendation listed first):

• Intel Core i7-4770k: Amazon - $328.59 - (Benchmark: 10242) this is the highest performance processor that's reasonably priced. Going higher than this is a waste of money for little gain. this is the current version of the processor that I have (mine's a Core i7-2700k). Think it's worth the additional $19 over the regular 4770 listed below. The benefit of going a bit high end on the processor is that it'll keep up for a longer period, so will be able to put off upgrading for another couple of years beyond what you'd be able to with a Core i5 or i3.
  
  
• Intel Core i7-4770: Newegg - $309.99 - (Benchmark: 9901) Still a very nice processor, but if you're going to go with this, I still think that the 4770k is worth it.
  
  
• Intel Core i5-4570: Newegg - $199.99 - (Benchmark: 7065) this is a competent processor that will more than handle anything you throw at it. It's just a bit less powerful and it can handle fewer simultaneous tasks than the Core i7. It'll probably begin to show its age a bit sooner than the Core i7.
  
  

  Motherboard:
  

  
  

• ASRock Z97 Pro4 - Newegg - $109.49 - Compatible with everything else, and it has a very nice feature set. My boyfriend did the comparison shopping on this one. (I usually defer to him on motherboards; he's very good at comparison shopping on them).
  
  

  RAM:
  

  
  

• G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB - Newegg - $75.99 - This is almost the same memory that I have, one iteration newer. If you want to, you can bump up to 16GB, but I don't think you need to. And RAM almost always comes down in price, so if you end up wanting to increase it later, it'll probably be cheaper.
  
  

  Hard Drive:
  

  
  

• Western Digital Black series 1TB - Newegg - $74.99 - Not much to say on this. A nice big hard drive with plenty of space for games, good performance, and a 5 year warranty.
  
  

  Power Supply:
  

  
  

• Rosewill PHOTON Series PHOTON-650 - Newegg - $79.99 - Has more than enough wattage to power everything and last you for as long as you keep the computer. It's also modular, so if you're not using some of the wires, you don't have to have them cluttering up the inside of the PC (but be sure to hang on to them, in case you need them in the future).
  
  

  Graphics Card - many possibilities, here:
  

  
  

• SAPPHIRE DUAL-X 100373L Radeon R9 - Newegg - $189.99 - This is a new graphics card, part of AMD's current generation. It'll run current games (and future games for a while to come) on max settings. (We can look around at eBay, too.)
  
  
• MSI AMD R9 270 - Ebay - currently $77, not much time left in the auction, though
  
  
• Any AMD R9 270, 280, or 290 on eBay is probably a good bet. You may just need to hunt around and snipe a few auctions. And be sure the seller has good ratings of course.
  
  

  Case - any of these will work well:
  

  
  

• APEX SK-393-C
  
  
• Antec NEW SOLUTION SERIES VSK-4000
  
  
• Rosewill REDBONE
  
  
• Or you can shop around here to find something you like better. All the cases beyond that link should be compatible ATX Midsize towers. (But you can run it by me first, if you like, just to be sure.) I'm very partial to Rosewill, which is Newegg's house brand, but anything with a lot of purchases and a high rating should serve you well.
  
  

  OS
  

  
  

• Windows 8.1 - Newegg - $99.99 - no real way to get around this, unfortunately.

Ahh, okay!

Which of the two would you think is better: A new $335 4790k, or a Used $299 4770k?

Thanks for your input! Built this rig a few years ago when budget was much more of a concern than what it is now. Do you have a recommendation? Was looking at the i7 4770k but am open to suggestions!

I think this is OP's build if anyone's wondering, with (guessing) amazon links:

Intel 4770k

ASUS STRIKER 4GB 760

8GB 1866MHz Corsair Vengeance Pro memory

2TB main hdd

500GB storage hdd

64GB ssd for caching the main drive


NZXT H440

NZXT Kraken X61 closed-loop cooler

EVGA SuperNova G2 750W PSU

ASUS Z97-PRO mobo

I used an i7 4770K (£300 on Amazon) to get my good results on Ace Combat 4. Every intel quad core processor ivy bridge or above has 4 cores+4 threads, so it effectively works as an 8 core processor.

Getting great 8 core performance is kinda pricey, but not nearly as bad as that.

Price check on the following:

i7-4770K

ASUS Maximus VI GENE Z87

[Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4GB)] (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233530&cm_re=CMY8GX3M2A1866C9R_%28Red%29-_-20-233-530-_-Product)

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 780 Ti

Corsair Professional Series HX650 Power Supply

CORSAIR Hydro Series H110 CPU Cooler. 280mm

Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240 GB

An estimate on a bundle price as well would be much appreciated.

I was thinking about scrapping my previous plans and just upgrading my motherboard, CPU, maybe case. I could get an i7 4770K which uses a 1150 socket, which I think is newer?

| Component | Name | Price | Link |
|:-----------|:------------|:------------|:------------|
| case | Corsair Air 540 | £105.99| http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D6GINF4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE|
| Motherboard | Gigabyte G1.SNIPER Z87| £96.98 | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-G1-SNIPER-Z87-Motherboard-Express/dp/B00GK646OE/ref=sr_1_10?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1397228208&sr=1-10&keywords=socket+1150+motherboard |
| CPU | i7 4770K| £235.99 | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I74770K-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CO8TBQ0/ref=pd_bxgy_computers_img_y |
| CPU Fan | Corsair H80i | £64.98 | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Series-Digital-Performance-All-In-One/dp/B009ZN03AA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397222185&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+h80i
| Total | | £503.94

The 4770k is $339 at Newegg right now, that's more like ~$15 more. However, they're apparently $5 cheaper than the 3770k at Amazon...

I made some changes, and updated the post. What do you think?

Amazon