Reddit reviews Samsung 960 PRO Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6P1T0BW) Starters Bundle

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I've now installed about 2 dozen of these puppies. And plan to deploy another dozen or two within the next year.

It's a fantastic work terminal, mini-server, cluster-node. I can't recommend enough that if you go this route, you get a Samsung 960 Pro as the primary SSD. 960 Evo could also work for a workstation that won't be doing any server or VM hosting roles. So much of system performance these days is bottle necked by primary drives. The NUK6i7's biggest strength is the 2x PCIe capable M.2 slots.

A minor downside for "3 to 4 1920x1200 monitors" is that you'll need some dongles or daisy chains to get more then 2 monitors. The plus here is that the Thunderbolt3 port and miniDisplayPort gives you quite a few options for display adapters. The setup I use with it and setup others with usually involves 2-3 Ultrawide LG displays. Personally use 2x 25" Ultrawide stacked on top of each other on my left as tertiary monitors and a 29" Ultrawide as my primary.

Reasons not to go with the NUC6i7.

• At some point might want a GPU. The Iris Pro 580 still leaves a lot to be desired for dedicated GPU tasks.
  
• You want or want to expand to 2.5" SATA storage.
  
• You want to Overclock.
  
• You want a 6+ core beast of a workstation.
  
  We run a pure Windows shop. So I can't vouch for the Linux drivers on the NUC6i7 specifically. Though in the past Intel NUCs have have solid Linux support when I tried (Ubuntu and RHEL) with 2nd or 3rd gen NUCs.
  
  
  Here's our typical build, usually comes in @ $1100-$1200 depending on price fluctuations:
  
  
• $580 - NUC6i7
  
• $220 - 32GB 16x2 2133MHz CL13 RAM - Went with the 2133MHz CAS 13 instead of the 2400Mhz due to cost and availability when I first started experimenting with the NUC6i7.
  
• $340 @ 512GB / $620 @ 1TB 960 Pro - Choose your capacity as needed. 512GB should be around $350 but is in short supply at the moment.
  
  
• $130 @ 250GB - Need to drop to the 960 Evo if you want 250GB. - Killer value with PCIe performance compared to SATA M.2 Drives.

Samsung 850 EVO.

Obviously PCIe SSDs (e.g. the 960 PRO) would be even faster than SATA-based ones, but I highly doubt you'll find a 1TB one for under $500.

Really cutting low on a lot of these parts. Memory is ECC, add about 200$ . Motherboard isnt easily comparable but processor is a exon, which could cost a couple hundred more, but even low balling, a Xeon e5-2620 would cost $100 more. CPU cooler, add 40 (at least). SSD in Mac is NVME, add $400. The card is probably about right in pricing, but it will be a workstation Vega card. Power supply is also probably about right. Display will likely be equivalent to the Dell 5k, which they say is priced under 2000, so call it $1800, thats $900 more. The iMac Pro is workstation grade, yours is not. These parts alone would add $1600 to the cost of this build, and im sure there are small things that would add up.

they're nowhere because 1tb version doesn't release until end of December. also, you can just buy on amazon since they ship to Japan: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LYRCIPG/

1. Yes.
   
2. Yes.
   
3. Depends. There are cheap SSDs and expensive SSDs.

From Amazon's pages:

>Available for Pre-order. This item will be released on November 13, 2016 (512 GB) or January 1, 2017 (1 TB)

Obviously, these could all be straight spitballing, but I see varying dates:

Amazon claims Jan 1st for the 1TB/2TB 960 Pros and Dec 11th for the 250GB Evo

Newegg claims Jan 2nd for the 960 Pros and Dec 13th for the Evos

B&H claims Dec 8th for all of them

Would this work in a 2015 15" MacBook Pro with something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-PRO-Internal-MZ-V6P1T0BW/dp/B01LYRCIPG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502010122&sr=8-1&keywords=1TB+960+pro

Hold off a little longer and you will be able to buy an affordable terabyte SSD/NVMe

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-PRO-Internal-MZ-V6P1T0BW/dp/B01LYRCIPG

JFC Apple are so annoying, why wouldn't they let you get the 21.5" with a 2TB SSD?

One of these with a SATA 3 SSD like the Samsung 850 EVO 1TB would be fine, or you could get one of these with a Samsung 960 Pro 1TB M.2 SSD.

Here's the thing, I can't find a single external enclosure that tops the speeds of that drive. The enclosure caps at 10000Mb/s, or 1250MB/s. The drive does reads up to 3500MB/s, which is 28000Mb/s. Thunderbolt 3 can do 40000Mb/s, but there are no enclosures available that live up to that...
That I can find, that is.

Apple's internal drives are similar to that Samsung 960 Pro, but when they're in the computer they're not limited by the enclosure.

TLDR; just get the 21.5" with a 1TB 960 Pro + that enclosure, then when a better enclosure comes along move the drive over to that. Because the Thunderbolt 3 connection is fast enough to beat any of the current internal drive offerings, but none of the current enclosures seem to.

Another option would be to get a PCIe 3.0 x8 thunderbolt enclosure, an X8 to M.2 adapter, and the 960 Pro. But that would be bulky, and probably wouldn't work as well due to driver issues.

Here are my thoughts:

• Dual M4000's are nearly as fast as dual M6000's, and would only be $1600 for a pair. Personally, I'd sell or return the M6000's and get M4000's. Pocket the extra $2,800 since the performance bump doesn't seem worth it.
  
• The Intel 750 Series is a good card, but the 1TB Samsung 960 Pro M.2 NVMe is faster, cheaper, uses less power, doesn't take up a PCIe slot and offers the same warranty.
  
• Do you have enough storage? 1.2TB for your kind of work sounds incredibly small.

I did a similar thing with my old Gateway PC over the winter and I replaced the the stock hard disk after almost 9 years with a 2.5 inch 480 GB SATA SSD and it's been running like a new machine ever since. I also have a 4 TB HDD, the stock 1 TB HDD, and my old portable 1 TB HDD inside my old PC now totaling 4 internal drives with almost 6.5 TB of storage space between them and almost half the space is actually full.

I can help you with finding an SSD as I do have some experience with that. But you will have to ask someone else for help with finding a specailty application to transfer data between drives as What I did was installed a 4 TB HDD then transferred all important information to the HDD, switched my main boot drive from the stock HDD to a SATA SSD, did a clean install of the OS onto the SSD, then transferred files back from my 4 TB HDD to my SSD. To format my SATA SSD, I used the disk-utility built-into Windows to format the SSD as NTFS and then went through the Windows installation using my OEM license and product key.

What I found is that M.2 related to the form factor of the drive rather than how the drive IO pins are arranged. There are two types of M.2 SSD: (1) SATA SSD and (2) NVME SSD, the differences between SATA and NVME drives are shown in this article from Online Tech Tips. Below are links to 6 M.2 form factor SSDs, four are from Samsung and two are from Crucial and four of the six are MVME type SSDs.

500 GB Samsung M.2 SATA SSD

1TB Samsung M.2 SATA SSD

500 GB Samsung M.2 NVME SSD

500GB Crucial M.2 MVME SSD

1TB Smasung M.2 NVME SSD

1TB Crucial M.2 NVME SSD

Here is a link the Micro Center online store with 5 SSDs that also fit your description for what you wan to use to replace your C: drive. I don't know what brand of M.2 SSD is more reliable than the others so you will have to ask someone else about that.

Also, of you are running Windows, you can use the disk utility to first format your new SSD as NTFS then put Windows on it using the windows license and product key that came with your computer. If you built your computer yourself, then you will need to transfer over the Windows listens from your current drive to your new drive assuming the license you bought is a transferable license.

If you are planning on putting Linux onto your main drive, you can format the drive using any old PC to the file system of your choosing for Linux and then install any distribution you like to flash onto the drive using a bootable USB or bootable DVD.

I don't know what format Mac OS X requires so I am of no use to you in regards to that aspect.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I hope this helps you.

I think so? Replacing a Samsung sm951 with a 960 pro

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-PRO-Internal-MZ-V6P1T0BW/dp/B01LYRCIPG/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1497375009&sr=1-1&keywords=960+pro&refinements=p_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A6797521011

Same price? More like double.

1. Doesn't matter if Skylake is similar to Kaby Lake. I'm talking about parts prices.
   
   
2. 3GB/sec is what I mean...3 GIGABYTES per second. These are the newest and fastest on the market. Something like a M.2 960 Pro will be a fair comparison.
   
   
3. Doesn't matter. It has a 580 at top end. It costs $349 retail, and unavailable due to miners.
   
   
4. 5k is almost 30% more data than 4k. OLED is still expensive and unreliable especially at smaller sizes. I'm sure Apple will move to OLED next year starting with iPhone 8 this year. 5k is great for content creators who use Adobe apps. They can play 2k/4k/5k footage at native resolution on a 5k display. It's not really for gamers, not even a SLI Titan Xp's can handle 5k 60p gaming.
   
   Most people buy 8GB from Apple (as stock) and buy tax free RAM from B&H in New York (if they are in USA) for $100 for at least 16GB RAM. Not everyone is dumb enough to pay their RAM tax, which I agree is overpriced. Their SSDs aren't that overpriced, if you actually knew the SSD's they use.
   
   Here's a similar 1TB NVMe, close to what Apple charges (give or take $100).
   
   https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-PRO-Internal-MZ-V6P1T0BW/dp/B01LYRCIPG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499764133&sr=8-2&keywords=1tb+nvme
   
   You still don't get what I'm saying. The parts in the 2017 iMac are cheaper to buy as an iMac than to build it.
   
   You can bring up reasons as much as you want, I'm telling you you can't build a 2017 iMac (top end, $2699 version) as a PC with the same parts.
   
   I have a Skylake Hackintosh and MacBook Pro so you don't have to give me reasons to own a Mac.

If you want the fastest SDD that has 1TB, you could look at the Samsung 960 PRO Series

And if you want the fastest ram, you could try looking at the Kingston HyperX FURY

So, that motherboard you selected supports an m.2 drive.

Maybe look into using a 1tb Samsung 960 EVO or 1tb 960 pro. It's basically an SSD in a different physical form factor (mounts on the motherboard for data and power, so less space needed for it), and I believe uses a different bus than SATA, so it's also faster and doesn't take away from your bandwidth to those drives (might give you better shadowplay performance if you're recording to a SATA drive?). It's the same type of drive higher end ultrabooks and the Intel NUCs use these days.

I used the 850 when I rebuilt my computer a year or so ago, and it impressed me with the OS bootup time.

1TB


These pictures don't do a great job showing size, But it's about an inch wide, and 3/4 long, flat as a pancake.