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Okie dokie, here are a few tips:
That's what comes to mind! Hope it helps.
EDIT - Formatting, and added some links.
EDIT 2 - you asked for websites! This one has an awesome quick start guide and lots of other good stuff. This one has some useful tools. These are the sites of the authors of the books I posted above, I have both books and love them dearly. There are also a TON of data online if you google around!
http://www.amazon.com/Grain-Brain-Surprising-Sugar--Your-Killers/dp/031623480X
http://www.amazon.com/Wheat-Belly-Lose-Weight-Health/dp/1609614798
http://www.amazon.com/The-Paleo-Diet-Healthy-Designed/dp/0470913029
http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Athletes-Nutritional-Performance/dp/160961917X
http://www.amazon.com/Gluten-Connection-Sensitivity-Sabotaging-Control/dp/1594863873
http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Grains-Gluten-Cereal-Hazardous/dp/1583331298
http://www.amazon.com/Healthier-Without-Wheat-Understanding-Intolerance/dp/0976853795
http://www.amazon.com/Going-Against-Grain-Reducing-Revitalize/dp/0658017225
Follow the doctor's advice.
If he wants to try a dietary approach, there are a bunch of different options, many different books. He will have to try different things to figure out what works best for him. If he's really determined, with some luck something will work for him.
Life Without Bread is a low-carb approach.
Breaking the Vicious Cycle works for some.
Inflammatory Bowel Disease by Hunter may be useful; haven't read it yet myself.
I think Cordain's Paleo diet book addresses autoimmune disease. I liked his approach.
Robb Wolf's Paleo book is only slightly different, and also addresses autoimmune disease.
No one diet works for everyone. Some people never find specific dietary guidelines that work. Many people can identify foods that are particularly problematic, and finding these may start with a particularly monotonous diet, followed by adding in individual food items to determine tolerance. I think Hunter's book goes that route, but I'm uncertain.
Things that work for some: extremes, such as vegan/extreme vegetarian, or total carnivore. Highly recommended: fermented foods. Avoid sugar.
Kev, we all try different paths to get us to where we want to go. If this works for you that's great, but for me it wouldn't be sustainable long-term. HcG just seems a little scammy to me, however if you're committed to it, I would throw in some vitamin D too. Breaking 500 is a great first step (it is nice to see the numbers drop!). I do worry that you're not getting enough real food with this diet.
I started well above where you are now so I know where you're coming from in wanting to get it done with (I still don't like to tell others how bad I got). I've tried most of the diets and fads out there, but what finally turned me around was reading Tim Ferris' 4hr body, Gary Taubes' Good Calories, Bad Calories, Rob Wolff's Paleo Solution, Loren Cordain's Paleo Diet and Mark Sisson's Primal Blueprint. I've culled what works for me from these and have been eating pretty much Paleo/Keto since November. I've dropped over 50lbs since then at about 2000-2200 cals day. I know it's not biggest loser territory, but slow and steady wins the race. Most of all, it's something I can live with long term. So far my only exercise has been walking and some stationary bike.
What made the change easier for me was I found a lifestyle rather than a diet to follow. That's not to say I haven't had the occasional setbacks (god I miss pizza and beer), but I'm getting there and you will too. Best of luck on your quest...
tl/dr - Plan's not for me, don't be afraid to try something else. Knock em dead kid!
> I have. My research points to you being very wrong.
Sorry Bro-tein shake, no, it doesn't.
Here's three books that back up everything I've claimed - The Paleo Solution, written by a Phd research Biochemist, Rob Wolf and this book The Paleo Diet written by Loren Cordain, another Phd research scientist/college professor who has studied ancient diets and finally The Wheat Belly, written by a cardiologist who observed what grain based, high carb, high sugar diets were doing to his patients
> "Your age or experience do not give you any kind of credibility."
It sure does my friend.
> Probabilmente ti farà paura, ma io cerco di mangiare 1g di proteine per kg di peso corporeo
Anche io mangio circa quello però sto cercando di mettere qualche muscolo extra. In futuro ho intenzione di mangiare leggermente meno proteine. Poi in vecchiaia ho letto che ci vuole qualche proteina extra.
> e il resto delle calorie in grassi sani (olio di oliva, di cocco, noci, avocado, etc), limitando i carboidrati al massimo
Io mangio esattamente il contrario, carboidrati sani (cereali e legumi interi), limitando i grassi a quelli che ci sono nei semini. Ho anche comprato i flax seed (che ritengo dovrei mangiare tutti i giorni) ma non ho mai tempo di macinarli e sono in attesa di un frullatore nuovo per risolvere questo problema. Ogni tanto mi sono comprato le olive e me le sono mangiate con gusto anche se ho il sospetto che forse abbiano troppi grassi saturi. Ogni tanto mi mangio anche le noci che ho letto da qualche parte fanno bene. Devo comprare spaccanoci nuovo.
Ho indagato un pò su questo topic dei grassi vs carb e ti passo due link che ho trovato interessanti:
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/does-coconut-oil-clog-arteries/
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/plant-based-atkins-diet/
L'autore è un vegano però come vedi è abbastanza onesto da riportare anche quei (pochi) studi che riportano risultati positivi sulle diete low carb. Sono andato anche a vedermi "fatty acid metabolism" su wikipedia però è tutto men che semplici specialmente se non sei un chimico!
Un altro interessante è questo che spiega come mai le piante non hanno molti grassi:
https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/55632/why-do-plants-store-energy-as-carbohydrates-and-not-as-fats
Quindi, ad oggi, la mia opinione è questa:
Le diete low carb high protein non funzionano, non c'è niente da fare. Il motivo per cui non funzionano è ovvio. Il corpo deve eliminare prodotti di scarto. Però comunque le proteine vegetali sembrano meglio di quelle animali.
Le diete high fat (più di 30% di fat), low carb (meno di 40% di carb) e con una dose non eccessiva di proteine (diciamo 1 grammo per kilo di peso) possono anche funzionare, pur non essendo affatto naturali, a patto che le sorgenti di grassi e di proteine siano vegetali. Probabilmente è nettamente meglio un frutto intero come l'avocado oppure l'oliva invece che olio di un tipo o di un altro. L'oliva secondo me è salutare. Anche le noci andrebbero mangiate, concordo su questo.
Quindi, l'immagine di insieme è questa, che l'uomo è effettivamente un animale al 90+% erbivoro, come dicono i vegano moderati (tipo Greger), e inoltre non ha bisogno di molte proteine (come dicono tutti i nutrizionisti competenti), però il suo meccanismo per utilizzare i "fatty acids" come fonte di energia non è affatto difettoso come si riteneva in passato. In passato si riteneva che i saturated fat fossero maligni semplicemente perché i saturated fat sono associati ai prodotti animali. In effetti ho letto da qualche parte che l'uomo è uno dei pochi animali che può far andare il cervello quasi interamente con i fatty acids. Quindi, riassumendo, probabilmente l'uomo è ragionevolmente efficiente nel bruciare i grassi perchè questo meccanismo comunque era troppo importante e necessario per fare migrazioni oppure per sopravviere alle carestie.
La dieta che stai facendo tu secondo me si può definire una carestia/migrazione simulata. E' solo simulata perché ovviamente aggiungi per via orale sempre nuovi grassi e nuove proteine ogni giorno!
Ritengo anche che forse una dieta come la tua può avere un utilizzo per prepararsi ad un qualche tipo di maratona dove non è consentito assumere cibo (carb) durante il tragitto. Un altro possibile utilizzo sensato potrebbe essere quello di gestire alcune malattie (alcuni cancri, alcuni tipi di diabete, epilessia).
Di certo non è una dieta che consiglierei ad una persona sana. Come mai una persona sana dovrebbe fare una dieta cosi estrema e restrittiva? Solo perchè va di moda, come fosse un taglio di capelli oppure un vestito?!
> Non sono sicuro di capire cosa intendi. Una volta che la "polvere" è miscelata con acqua e olii diventa altro, una matrice complessa, con alcuni componenti in soluzione altri in sospensione, le fibre solubili formano gel etc... Non molto diverso dal cibo normale dopo che è stato masticato e ingoiato.
Credo che nello stomaco arrivino comunque pezzettini di roba, non liquidi. Però non sono esperto. Intuitivamente non mi fido dei liquidi. Ho letto da qualche parte che gli oli liquidi vanno abbastanza direttamente nel sangue.
Hai provato a farti le analisi del sangue e osservare il colesterolo e tutto il resto? Come spiega il primo link, c'è molta variabilità tra gli individui. Dovresti verificare se sei una persona adatta alle diete high fat, oppure no.
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Primo P.S:
> Per questo motivo non sono contento della maggioranza di soylent in commercio: troppi carboidrati, poche proteine, troppi compromessi per accontentare tutti, come accenni anche tu.
Su questo siamo daccordo. Hanno scelto una via di compromesso. Tra i big, Huel sembra quello più vicino ai low carb, però è "Paleo"/"Zone" (high protein) invece che nettamente "High fat". Comunque come spiegano anche sul loro sito puoi aggiustarlo verso quello che vuoi abbastanza facilmente:
https://huel.com/blogs/news/low-carb-huel-two-hacks
Loro usano coconut oil, io ti consiglierei olio di oliva oppure anche olive intere.
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Secondo P.S:
Se mi consenti, ti do due consigli:
Tieni anche presente che alcune cellule (cervello, globuli rossi) hanno bisogno del glucosio per campare. In ogni caso, per tua fortuna, non c'è rischio di morire immediatamente a causa della mancanza di carb perché le proteine possono essere convertite in glucosio se c'è bisogno, e gli animali carnivori principalmente funzionano attraverso questo meccanismo. Se trovi un animale che utilizza principalmente i grassi, fammelo sapere.
La conversione da proteine a glucosio crea un sacco di prodotti di scarto e quindi è sconsigliabilissima. Per questo ti dico le diete high protein sono del tutto insensate. La produzioni di grassi dai carb pure crea dei prodotti di scarto e quindi è sconsigliata pure questa. Quindi anche i vegani che non sono a dieta dovrebbero mangiare abbastanza grassi. Quelli che sono a dieta possono provare a compare con i grassi che hanno in corpo.
La ketosis pure è sconsigliatissima. Ti consiglio davvero di mangiare qualche carb per essere sicuro di non andare in ketosis e per essere sicuro che il tuo corpo non bruci proteine per ottenere carb. E comunque, la frutta e verdura la devi mangiare comunque per i micronutrienti e pitochemicals, quindi rassegnati! ;)
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Terzo P.S:
Ti consiglio anche di verificare se sei "insulin resistant" oppure no. Credo sia sufficiente fare un pasto con abbastanza carb (che so, 40% carb, 40% fat e 20% proteine) e poi misurarti il glucosio nel sangue. Da quello che ho capito, già hai tutti gli strumenti necessari per fare questo? Sei diabetico?
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Quarto P.S:
Conosci qualche autore low-carb che mi puoi consigliare? Per adesso tutti i libri che trovo su amazon.com sembrano scritti da dei crank. Non voglio offendere nessuno però oggettivamente è cosi. Tutti consigliano high protein, prodotti animali e ketosis. Ti faccio alcuni esempi di libri che sembrano seri ma secondo me non lo sono affatto. Basta vedere con Amazon qualche pagina a caso per rendersi conto. Nella sostanza tutti sostengono che l'uomo è un animale carnivoro ma tutta la scienza nutrizionale dice esattamente il contrario.
Perfect Health Diet: Regain Health and Lose Weight by Eating the Way You Were Meant to Eat Hardcover – December 11, 2012
by Paul Jaminet Ph.D. (Author), Shou-Ching Jaminet Ph.D. (Author), Mark Sisson (Introduction)
https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Health-Diet/dp/B007USA6MM/
Fat for Fuel: A Revolutionary Diet to Combat Cancer, Boost Brain Power, and Increase Your Energy Hardcover – May 16, 2017
by Dr. Joseph Mercola (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Fat-Fuel-Revolutionary-Combat-Increase/dp/1401953778/
The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living: An Expert Guide to Making the Life-Saving Benefits of Carbohydrate Restriction Sustainable and Enjoyable Paperback – May 19, 2011
by Stephen D. Phinney (Author), Jeff S. Volek (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0983490708/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1CH3F17VHBPNZ
The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance Paperback – April 1, 2012
by Jeff S. Volek (Author), Stephen D. Phinney (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0983490716/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3B55O32RBIIDW
The Paleo Diet: Lose Weight and Get Healthy by Eating the Foods You Were Designed to Eat Paperback – December 7, 2010
by Loren Cordain (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0470913029/
Update:
The part I'm referring to: http://i.imgur.com/14pu8.png
Some other chapters reference alkaline foods and kidney stones but I'm hardly going to scan the entire book! :p
If you're interested it's The Paleo Diet
I'm only about 80 pages in because I picked it up yesterday and I'm a slow reader but it's quite interesting. The book seems to promote a lot of food and isn't targeted at inducing ketosis although the message is similar to that of Atkins and Keto approaches in that it demonizes refined sugars, starches and trans fats. The rest really seems to be how to STAY healthy and eat well rather than how to lose weight extremely quickly (Atkins).
The more I read it and refer back to it, the more similarities I see with Atkins OWL and Maintenance phases except Atkins is much less strict about "modern" or "processed" foods like salami, cheese and dairy. Generally, both Atkins and Cordain seem to agree that moderate amounts of the right fats are good for you and that a carbohydrate-rich diet is not good for you.
One thing that's fucked me right off is that neither book can agree on consumption of salt. Atkins says there is no solid evidence linking salt consumption to illnesses, referencing several studies and Cordain says that salt should never be added to your paleo food as there's already enough in it and that our distant ancestors wouldn't have seasoned their food.
Oh, I've noticed one more difference. Paleo seems to advocate cuts of lean meat over fatty and marbled meat. The reasoning being that many, many years ago, the only animals available to early humans were lean game animals and leftover remains from tracking other predators. Todays fatty beef and pork is fed an unnatural diet and we should actually be eating considerably more protein and less fat than a keto style approach. Although this makes sense to me, my own common sense says that the fattiest parts of animals were prized for a good reason. They were high in all the good things that made our brains larger and bodies work harder in the cold. I'm sure if palaeolithic man HAD the opportunity to select much fattier cuts of meat, he would have.
In any case, there are a lot of interesting similarities and the areas in which they differ are few and far between. I'll read on and PM you with a full critique when I'm done.
For me it was after reading Grain Brain. I don't have any medical issues and I'm not over weight, but the idea that eating grains (and carbs) could eventually make me more likely to have Alzheimer's in the future bothered me.
I read more books such as Wheat Belly and [The Paleo Diet] (http://www.amazon.com/The-Paleo-Diet-Healthy-Designed/dp/0470913029) and felt that for my long term health, it would be best for me to cut out carbs.
Also, minimizing sugar and simple carbs helps prevent/slow down aging of the skin caused by glycation. Weight loss and body recomposition is a nice bonus though :).
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You must be a Monsanto shill! For anyone else who may be reading this, there are quite a few books written that talk about how bad for you grains are, and many of them mention legumes, as well. Deadly Harvest: https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Harvest-Intimate-Relationship-Between/dp/0757001424. The Perfect Health Diet: https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Health-Diet-Regain-Weight/dp/1451699158/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483807336&sr=1-1&keywords=the+perfect+health+diet Grain Brain https://www.amazon.com/Grain-Brain-Surprising-Sugar-Your-Killers/dp/031623480X%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-osx-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D031623480X
and Bulletproof https://www.amazon.com/Bulletproof-Diet-Reclaim-Energy-Upgrade/dp/162336518X%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-osx-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D162336518X: https://www.amazon.com/Grain-Brain-Surprising-Sugar-Your-Killers/dp/031623480X%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-osx-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D031623480X are just 4 of many. Oh, and I can't forget the Paleo diet book! https://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Weight-Healthy-Designed/dp/0470913029%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-osx-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0470913029. These books all have hundreds of comments from people claiming their health improved after cutting out legumes and grains. I personally went from being very, very sick on a mostly vegetarian diet high in grains and legumes to almost cured of my illness after cutting out the grains and legumes completely.
>Name me a moral concept. Or a few. And why are we assuming that nature is non-moral?
That's the thing, I'm saying that there are no distinctively "moral" properties in nature. Morality, defined as "The extent to which an action is right or wrong," is a useful fiction, based on the conventions and designs of other human beings. When someone says that "rape is morally wrong," what they are saying in effect is that its consequences are undesirable, and should be prohibited as a matter of principle. Once enough people come together and reach a consensus on this point, a new moral is born. But the moral itself does not derive its authority from an objective ground of value, which stands above and beyond the practical interests and agreements of human beings.
I'm far more comfortable with using the terms good or evil, just or unjust, equal or unequal, appropriate or inappropriate, suitable or unsuitable, proportional or disproportional, adaptive or maladaptive, functional or dysfunctional, efficient or inefficient. Note that I'm not talking about good or evil in a theistic or moral sense, I'm speaking in purely functional terms. A "good" thing of a certain kind is one which performs its function well. For instance, the function of a knife is to cut: cutting is that which a knife alone achieves, or achieves better than other objects. It is a distinctive quality of a knife that it cut well or badly. To the extent that an object lacks these traits, it will be evil or bad as a result. In that sense, the words that I use are devoid of subjective valuations, there is no expression of liking or prejudice, rather, I'm using these words to point to objective criteria, and as a result the claims are matters for empirical investigation, not what one or another ideology proclaims is right or wrong.
>Humans feel pain and process emotions in the same way that most mammals do.
I never denied that fact. However, I'd characterize the issue differently. As I said before, it is in the consitution of our species that we eat animal flesh for subsistance. Obviously, I'm not claiming that we require a wholly carniverous diet, only that a large proportion of our food comes from animals. The only implication that follows from this is that nature prescribes that lower animals are the proper prey of human beings, and thus it is fitting, appropriate, or suitable to our species. You are the one introducing a moral claim into this situation. And as I said, your claim is groundless as it appeals to an arbitrary preference of subjective taste. It has no moral authority. You also lack the general consent of others, which would be required to turn this into a principle or norm of conduct. So where does that leave us? I maintain that we have a natural right or entitlement to prey on other creatures for the good of our species. This right follows from the fact that we are proportionally superior, in nearly all respects, as it pertains to fitness, which is the only measure of comparison at issue in the final analysis. If you dispute this claim, kindly explain how it is possible for us to fish out entire oceans, or reduce whole ecosystems to cinders to suit our purposes. The suffering of other animals is indeed an evil, but only for those species so unfortunate to become victims of the human appetite.
Here's a small taste of the contradictory evidence you requested.