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I pocket carry a SIG P938, and I have experience with holsters, because I feel like the only way to try them out is to buy them and use them. Unfortunately this makes for quite the collection of holsters in a box you don't use.

So, let's start with the bad.

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Alabama Holster:

CONS:

The hook to catch your pocket on draw is OK .. it's not perfect.

It does little to conceal print shape.

I did not care for the grip of the kydex, it was just a weird draw.

It was expensive.

It took for-friggin-ever to get, their back log of orders was months deep.

PROS:

It's kinda neat I guess?

Hickok45 loved and endorsed it, shrug

Now let's talk what works really really well as an everyday solution.

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DeSantis Nemesis:

CONS:

I can't think of one.

PROS:

The pocket hook that catches on draw is perfect.

It is a little sticky, (rubber texture) but not too bad. This too is great for the draw.

It's cheap, (like $16-$18) and readily available on Amazon.

Does a nice job on print and is a great everyday solution for slacks.

This is mine.

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The DeSantis Super Fly:

I have this one as well.

For me it is far too fat, and far too sticky. Some people like it better.

Edit: Yeah, I edited. Big whoop, wanna fight about it?

I recently got my NC CCW and a Glock 19 with a vedder light tuck. I’ve been to the range to practice a few times but the ear pro they have for rent tends to be a hit or miss. As a result i’m looking to buy my own EarPro but and caught between the decision between Pro For Sho’s passive ear protection and Howard Leight’s Impact Sports electronic ear protection. If this would be better for /r/guns let me know.

Here’s a quick of comparison of each:

Pro For Sho
Price: $18
NRR: 34dB
Weight: less than half a pound

Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Sho-34dB-Shooting-Protection/dp/B01FPWTJBI


Howard Leight Impact Sport
Price: $35
NRR: 22
Weight: slightly under a pound

Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01526/dp/B001T7QJ9O


The Pro For Sho is lighter, about half the cost, and has a way higher NRR. I usually double up with foam ear plugs which would help make up for the Howard Leight’s lower NRR. The NRR difference isn’t the biggest concern, however, my existing opinion is that more is better. Indoor gun ranges can get loud. That being said if for whatever reason I forgot or ran out of foam earplugs I’d feel comfortable with the Pro For Shos but not the Howard Leights.

The biggest differentiator then would be the price and the electronic element of the Howards. Is the benefit offered by the electronic component really worth twice as much money and significantly less NRR? At a range the only time I’d really need to hear is when taking instruction in a class or talking with friends but if I’m by myself doing my own practice which is most of the time I feel like I wouldn’t need it. Yelling also works to account for higher NRR.

Another argument I’ve thought of is situational awareness being hindered by the passives; but the ranges in my area are all indoor with one or more rangemasters.

My biggest question to the community here is how worth it is the electronic hearing aid of the Howard Leights? I know that to some of you the price difference might be negligible but for me it matters.

On an unrelated note I stumbled across these: https://www.range365.com/sightline-replacement-pads-for-howard-leight-impact-sport-earmuffs

They look like a solid upgrade to the Howard pads. If I went with Howards I might get these later down the road when I have a bit more money to spend.


Thanks for taking the time to read through my long post!

>What would you all recommend as a minimum set of courses to take for a new carrier? I'm genuinely uncomfortable carrying until I've had training.

I was gonna write something detailed and inspired, then realized the u/fLKV02pfSQ covers most of my points.

> I have plenty of target shooting experience, but I have no experience with self defense use of a handgun.

• The Firearms Academy of Seattle has good classes. Take handgun shooting courses to learn: drawing from a holster, drawing from concealment, fixing malfunctions & getting your gun shooting again. The r/WA_guns folks will have more localized references.
  
  
• Practice what you learned in the courses, either at the range (most ranges don't have problems with you practicing reloads), or dry-practice at home.
  
  
• Find your local IDPA or USPSA match(es), so you can practice drawing, shooting, and shooting multiple targets under slight pressure. USPSA does not require drawing from concealment, but they won't stop you from doing that either.
  
  
• Read the Deadly Force book by Massad Ayoob, or Law of Self Defense book by Andrew Branca. Taking their live courses (MAG-40, Branca) is best, but having their book to refer back to is also good. Re-read the WA state lethal force and CCW statutes, so that you understand how the principles described in the books/courses are applied in your jurisdiction.
  
  
• Listen to the Tom Givens podcast on the American Warrior Show, for some insight on how to prioritize your training & practice. Tom has provided CHL training for thousands of students over his career. 60+ of his students won their DGUs. He shares the trends identified. (More commentary.)
  
  
• Think about your post-DGU plan (similar to how you've thought about your post-car-accident, or post-house-fire actions). The FAQ is a good starting point ("self defense insurance"), as is the Search bar. The John Daub interview and the Paul Lathrop interview share their post-DGU experiences.
  
  EDIT: added links!
  

The Utah Concealed Firearm Permit (CFP) is administered by the Bureau of Criminal Identification (BCI) in Taylorsville. Here is their website, with all the information you need in order to apply. You must first take the approved Utah training course from a Utah-certified instructor. You can find an instructor here.

A good EDC pistol will vary. My recommendation is to spend some range time renting pistols, preferably along with an experienced but non-judgmental friend, and don't decide to carry a gun until you absolutely fall in love with it (and you know you're accurate with it, too). The right EDC handgun for you will not be the right EDC handgun for someone else. Since you're on a budget, but you will be trusting your life to this gun, spend the 60-80 days you're waiting for your CFP to arrive to save up and have enough cash to get a gun from a reputable manufacturer. Read reviews online and talk to people at the range. You can still get a great carry gun from a quality manufacturer for less than $500.

Before you start to carry, read something that will prepare you mentally and also guide your training (yes, training--dry-fire practice, drawing from concealment, situational awareness, etc). I recommend this book as a starter guide, and this one for exploring the deeper concepts of carrying. Anything by Ayoob is excellent, really.

From your physical description, I'd say you're not looking for anything smaller than a compact gun (subcompact or pocket guns likely won't fit your build or hands). Of course the actual size and grip style of "compact" varies from make to make. Like I said, shoot a bunch of guns and fall in love with one. That way you know that you'll practice with it, and you won't be subject to buyer's remorse.

The Utah-approved CFP course will teach the basics of gun design, but brushes over cleaning. Ask your instructor(s) for details on anything you want more info on. They got into this because they want to educate you. For a good resource on this, check out the Gun Digest Book of Gun Care for handguns.

I have a Kel Tec P3AT. I know that doesn't get a lot of love, but it has been a reliable gun for me. It's made in the US and has a warranty even if you buy it used, if it is damaged by any means, including your own negligence, they'll fix or replace the gun.

All-in-all, I like Kel Tec. And remember that 99% of holsters that fit the LCP fit the P3AT.

As for holsters for pocket pistols, I prefer pocket holsters that prevent printing. I like keeping my pistol in my back pocket where I would normally keep my wallet, for several reasons that I won't waste your time going into unless you ask. So the holsters I recommend for that, even if you go with an LCP, are these:

Talon Wallet Holser, which I currently carry.
DeSantis Trickster, which I have never used before but looks nice and is DeSantis
DeSantis Nemesis, which I carried for many years, but I felt like it printed a bit too much
Garrison Grip orGUNizer, which is super cheap but looks well made. Haven't used it.

What's your budget?

You can ever go wrong with ammo. A package of some good defense ammo like Federal HST or Speer Gold Dots makes a good stocking stuffer.

Since he'll need to go to the range for practice (I sure hope so), get a good pair of ear protection like the Howard Leights.


A cheap range bag to carry ammo, gun, and ear/eye protection is a good gift too. Walmart has them for cheap.


Upgrades like night sights from Trijicon would be good on a carry gun. A good holsters and a proper gun belt are essentials as well.

The bottom line is, all of these safes are designed to keep honest people honest. A determined crook will be able to get your guns, no matter what you store them in.

Your best bet would be to get the best safe that you can afford, then figure out a way to make it invisible. Thieves won't try to break into your safe if they don't see it.

I have 2 handgun safes. One is this one. It's bolted to a heavy nightstand, 2 feet from my head while I sleep. There is only a gun in it while I'm asleep. Its whole job is to keep my gun out of my 2 year old daughter's hands while I sleep, yet give me pretty quick access if I need it.

My big safe is bolted into the concrete floor in my unfinished basement, hidden behind a false wall that I created from 2x4's and plywood. If you didn't know it was there, you'd never find it.

I don't over think it much. I just use a lock box in the trunk, with a steel cable that attaches to the car. I make sure that the box is hidden under things (often my spare tire). Something like this.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003841ZBS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yes, someone can still figure out a way to steal my gun, but not without some effort. In fact, it is probably easier to steal the whole car than trying to break open the lock box in a public parking lot. These guys don't spend hours rummaging through your car in broad daylight. They are in and out.

They especially like targeting cars that look like they have valuables in them, so don't leave your purse on the driver's seat (like a friend did and got robbed). Don't leave Christmas gifts in plain view in the back seat (like the same friend did, and got robbed again). Also don't put a bunch of NRA, Glock, S&W bumper stickers on your car (it is like a sign that says "there might be a gun in here").

I compared the Shield with the XDs and went with the Shield.

Shield is very thin.

I felt the Shield was much smoother to shoot. XDs had a "snap" to it that the Shield doesn't.

Since I've had the Sheild I have put the rubber Talon grips. What an improvement, and as far as I know, you can't put one on the XDs. However, the XDs does have a "grippier" grip over the Shield. But the Shield with the Talon grips is better than the standard XDs grips.

I also put the pinky extension on the 7 round mag I carry, and the +2 Hyve Mag extension on my 8 round mag.

I like the stock trigger and see no reason to modify it. It's safe and effective.

Next accessory will be Tricon sights.

With all of this, the Shield is hands down the best compact I have shot. Like everybody says, shoot a couple different pistols, and find the one that works best for you.

Well thank you very much. I've taken a law-oriented CCW class at my local range and read a couple books on the subject by Massad Ayoob, plus some input by firearms instructors. I felt it was extremely important to get a handle on the legal (and many would also say moral) issues surrounding lethal force in self defense.

Ayoob in particular takes you through the whole process of a justified shooting, from the selection of gear, to training and readiness, to proper assessment of a situation, and to the legal aftermath. He's been an expert witness on many, many lawful shooting cases, is a part-time LEO, and an officer-prosecutor in NH. In his books, he mostly focuses on case law, which is much more informative than a simple reading of 'black letter law.' I highly recommend Deadly Force.

Thought I would share a belly band I just purchased and tweaked a bit to suit my needs...

Here's the review I posted on Amazon:
This thing is great after some modifications, especially for the price! We'll see how well it holds up long-term.
I didn't like the retention strap or how the elastic held the gun in place, so I cut it off. I decided to modify the belly band a bit by shoving one of my Concealment Express IWB holsters into the elastic slot, and took off the kydex holster clip then screwed it back onto the kydex THROUGH the elastic so it would hold super securely, be fully encased in Kydex, and have the retention of a full kydex holster.

Very nice and comfortable to use now that it's been modified. I just put on the band, and then pull up my athletic shorts and use the clip over them as I would normally do on my EDC belt.

$25 on Amazon (+ CE kydex holster cost)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DEGYTC6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've done 2 different carry options.
standard IWB and swapping out the belt clip with a UtiliClip. You can snap it to your pants and the belt covers the clip and there's enough gap to tuck your shirt between the clip and holster.
Or
What I have had the greatest success with, a belly band type holster. I use the ComfortTac. It works great. WAY more comfortable than any IWB I've ran.

> I want to get my CCW, and I really enjoy shooting at the range, but I'm not sure if I'd actually carry all that often. It seems like an immense responsibility knowing that I'd have a tool that could literally end a life strapped to me, as well as that somebody could disarm/steal it from me.

Good. You should be thinking about this. You should be thinking twice before considering carrying or firing. Go read In the Gravest Extreme and consider carefully if you want that responsibility. And then, if you do, start practicing. Practice carrying. Practice shooting, both at the range and, if possible, at some defensive shooting course. Most defensive shooting situations aren't range-style shooting; they're "Oh, shit! I'd better pull and get this guy who's <3 yards away from me"-style shooting. It's fast, it's stressful, and it's not at all what most people practice. Go learn about the laws in your state, and memorize them. If your state says that "no guns" signs have the force of law, consider carefully what you plan to do in such a situation. Leave your gun in the car? Okay, do you have a way to lock it up out of sight? Bring it with you? Okay, better make sure it's concealed deep, and that you're absolutely okay with getting arrested and charged with an unlawfully-carried weapon. Avoid the business entirely? Okay; make sure you're aware of any political/familial ramifications this may have with the people you're with. Etc. Etc.

> I'm also not sure if I could even conceal the gun I want to buy (Glock 19) without it being painfully obvious.

Concealing most handguns is fairly straightforward, and while I don't have specific experience with the Glock 19, others in this thread have said it isn't a problem. Worst-case scenario, you could always get an easier-concealed gun. Subscribe to /r/gundeals - I see concealable handguns on sale for cheap all the time.

> I'd like to have the license (as well as learn from the class you need to take) for the off occasion I'm going somewhere I'd feel safer carrying. Thoughts?

Being comfortable carrying is really more about repetition and familiarity than just taking a class and suddenly being comfortable with it. You have a lot to learn and it's going to take time. Some of it is physical (the aforementioned range time and practical application classes) and some of it is mental (reading, getting yourself in the right mindset, learning to avoid conflict unless there's no other way, etc.), but there's a lot there. Plan for that, and you'll be all right. I mean it. I know it sounds like a brush-off: "Oh, you'll be fine." But seriously; it really is just getting used to a few things.

I'm taking my CHL class this Saturday, and have been doing a ton of reading.

The Ayoob book you linked, The Gun Digest Book of Concealed Carry is excellent. I also got a lot out of his Gun Digest Book of Combat Handgunnery. Highly recommended. I also picked up In the Gravest Extreme, but haven't read it yet.

Lessons From Armed America by Kathy Jackson and Mark Walters was pretty good. It follows the format "one chapter anecdote, one chapter analyzing the issues from the anecdote". It's less than $5 for the Kindle edition.

More Guns, Less Crime is a very, very detail oriented book wherein John Lott undertakes a statistical analysis of the effect on crime rates of all kinds when states enacted concealed carry laws. Extremely thorough, though unfortunately not so readable unless you're a lawyer, statistician, or savant. Around $5 for the Kindle edition, so not much lost there.

I got Understanding Oregon's Gun Laws by the Oregon Firearms Federation. It's direct and to the point, and not only explains the laws, but has plenty of the author's commentary on what he thinks of them (for better or worse). Obviously no good to you if you don't live in Oregon, but finding something similar for your state would be a good idea.

Hope that helps! I'm obsessively reading all the good books I can on the subject before I buy my first gun and get my CHL, so I'm looking forward to what other recommendations pop up in this thread. Thanks for posting it!

A secure safe bolted underneath your seat is the best option.
I opted for one of these and just secured it under my seat with a bike chain and padlock. That way it's easily accessible to store my firearm in it and lock it and slip it back under the seat, all before even opening my car door.
And then obviously lock your doors. So if you go this route, you sorta have three lines of defense: The car doors, the box secured to the vehicle and the lock on the box itself.
Oh, and also, don't advertise anything on your car. No 2A stickers, no Plock Gerfection--anything. And you'll be fine.

Edit: Actually, if you put some gun control/equality/Bernie Sanders stickers on your car, you probably won't have anything to worry about. Just toss it in the glove box. 😂

Get a gun(most of the ones mentioned already are great), a good solid holster(kydex or good leather), a good gun belt, and training. LOTS of training. Not just a one or two day CCW class. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is learning the laws of self-defense. Books by Massad Ayoob and Andrew Branca are great ones to start with. https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Force-Understanding-Right-Defense/dp/1440240612/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1536779297&sr=1-1&keywords=massad+ayoob&dpID=51WYSSJTfLL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

https://www.amazon.com/Gravest-Extreme-Firearm-Personal-Protection/dp/0936279001/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1536779297&sr=1-4&keywords=massad+ayoob&dpID=51886MD5PDL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

https://www.amazon.com/Law-Self-Defense-Indispensable-Citizen/dp/1943809143/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1536779464&sr=1-1&keywords=laws+of+self+defense&dpID=51M9dKSERKL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

Are you married to .45 as a caliber? .45s tend to be more expensive and larger. I'm not saying it's a bad caliber, and you can get a quality .45 within your budget, but it's gonna be really, really tough to get a quality .45 and a belt and a holster and classes and ear protection.

Let's break down the costs a little bit:

XDS .45 for $399 - not sure what your transfer fees and shipping will be, but we can assume it'll be probably $50

Alien Gear holster - some people will complain about these, but for a $45 holster, they can't be beat.

Their belt is $60 and I've heard good things about that as well. A lot of people like Beltman here but those are almost twice as expensive. These are leather (on the outside), if you'd rather have tactical looking bullshit it's about the same price.

Electronic hearing protection for $40 - these things are really popular and for good reason. You could just use normal earplugs or cheapo ear protection instead but you'll probably end up buying these eventually anyway.

You're up to $594 and we haven't even bought ammunition, spare magazines, or any classes yet. You could skimp on ear protection but $40 is about 150 rounds of .45, and probably not enough for a class.

Personally I think it's better to buy once, cry once. If you've got $600 set aside now, it might be better to get the gun that you really want and some ammo, and practice at the range with it. Then see how much you've got next month, and if you're doing alright, grab a holster and belt, or just a holster, and the month after that you can get some training. That sort of thing.

It came on another shield holster that I had but didn't accommodate the TLR6. I think the manufacturer on that one was DFW, got it off amazon. The only reason I liked it better was that it had a little ridge down near where it hooks under your belt that made it a lot easier to get a grip on and unclip it from the belt to take the holster off. The holes for the mounting bolts were close enough to the same spacing that they swapped right between each other with no issue.

EDIT - sorry, the company was CYA, not DFW. Here's a link to the holster that I swapped the belt clip from: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A9BSSW6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They also sell the belt clip individually: https://www.amazon.com/CYA-Supply-Co-1-75-Holster/dp/B01IW1O1IU/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1500053556&sr=1-1&keywords=CYA+belt+clip

This seems pretty nice. It is affordable, and the mounting mechanisms seem pretty versatile. From the reviews, it seems like a G19 is about the biggest gun that will fit, so take that into consideration.

I don't have any personal experience with this, but I can't imagine you'd really need much more in a car safe.

> Daily I use the Yosoo (another commenter does too). I like that it's cheap and light so I don't sweat much. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FJUSKYI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> The ComfortTac is clearly better quality but feels like wetsuit material and definitely makes me sweat. I don't like the retention strap unless I'm wearing sweats. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DEGYTC6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

yeah I agree with you.

I have 2 safes installed. One is for crappier things, the other one is for my firearm.

This is the one installed for my firearm. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FYO3310

The metal is SIGNIFICANTLY better than my other safe, one which is commonly endorsed here: https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Lockbox-Handgun-Storage-Pistols/dp/B00FATWGSU/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1468390083&sr=8-16&keywords=gun+safe

I upgraded the cable on both boxes, and I have it legitimately running through the chassis of my car (I cut out a piece of rug and soundproofing to reach my chassis).

I wear athletic shorts 95% of the time. I found a super simple belly band that works perfectly with my s&w shield. Carry it every day under my athletic shorts.
Here is the link : Ultimate Belly Band Holster for Concealed Carry | Black | Fits Gun Smith and Wesson Bodyguard, Shield, Glock 19, 42, 43, P238, Ruger LCP, and Similar Sized Guns | For Men and Women | Right Hand Draw https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEGYTC6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rkiDDb7XNWPZ6

You’re doing the right thing by asking this question first.

First, read up on self defense law as much as you can. Read The Law of Self Defense. Read it again.

There are a lot of details during a home defense situation that could lead you to be prosecuted, and those reasons vary by state. If you decide to arm yourself, you’re on the hook to know and understand the complex landscape of self defense law. Learn as much as you can and then learn some more.

Most importantly, never trust that if a specific case went right for someone, the exact same case would have the same outcome for you. The law, justice, and the way it is served is inconsistent at best. You have to prepare for the aftermath as much as the act itself.

I have a Gunvault SpeedVault SV500 gun safe, and would recommend it to anyone. I a full size 24/7 with the flashlight attached and it fits. I have it secured behind my open bedroom door with 6 large screws covering two sides(back and side). Very secure, and safe from kids.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OGNLKA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/Gravest-Extreme-Firearm-Personal-Protection/dp/0936279001/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1323049320&sr=1-3


http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Digest-Book-Concealed-Carry/dp/0896896110/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1323049320&sr=1-1



i also recommend these books to help you figure CCW out. However I hope you will take my last bit of advice to heart.

Do not kid yourself about carrying a large gun if you have the slightest doubt that you wont do it. I personally have a snub nose and a g30 for when I don't feel like carrying my 21. And it happens quite a bit. Just going to the gas station for a pop can quickly turn bad. But Im not going to spend 10 minuets gearing up for an 8 minuet trip. I know that, and Im ok with it. It takes ALOT of personal discipline to carry such a big gun. Its uncomfortable at times, its harder to travel, it limits the wardrobe, it can make hugs very awkward if your not used to it, etc. Please dont waste your money on a gun that you wont carry. By all means get the 30. I own one, they're great! You can LEARN to overcome its difficulties and short comings much easier than you can learn to always put on your beast no matter what.


let me know if you have any questions comments or concerns

Some additional free sources of info are

defensivecarry.com and ar15.com under handguns and carry issues.

1. Have some guns in mind, but don't get too hung up on the what. Find a range that rents and try a number of guns out. The one you shoot the most accurately and consistently is your gun. Everything else is secondary. If you ask me the G26 isn't small enough as compared to the G19, which is why I sold mine. If you're looking at the G19 / P320, give the Walther PPQ a try too.
   
   
2. Necessary? No. Practice the fundamentals. A light is a reasonable thing for a home defense gun, but it's added weight which speaks to your question 6.
   
   
3. Unfortunately don't have too much in the way of recommendations here. If you're going to carry though keep it on you... putting it in a bag or purse is a very bad idea.
   
   
4. Same as #3 unfortunately.
   
   
5. Not necessary, but always a good idea. When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. Situational awareness training, confrontation deescalation techniques, and hand to hand are all valuable.
   
   
6. No tricks. Only way you're going to make weight differences is with a smaller gun. A good carry system (belt, holster, etc) makes all the difference though.
   
   
7. Recommend doubling up. Foam plugs plus over-ears. Don't forget eye protection.
   
   
8. Deal the best you can. Oftentimes better to keep mum until it becomes a real issue, especially at work.

The reason I got it because it was 20 dollars.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Holster-Concealed-Bodyguard-Similar/dp/B01DEGYTC6/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1526467267&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=ultimate+belly+band+holster&psc=1


I figured, hell, I spend more money than that eating at a nice restaurant. Why not give this a shot. So I bought it and end up really liking it.

I can't speak for anyone else about how great they are, because its highly dependent on body type. It works for me because I'm skinny. Someone with a few extra pounds might find it uncomfortable. It's pretty much like a girdle...with a gun. Because I have no fat on my waist I find the tightness no problem. I could easily fall asleep wearing it.

The versatility is amazing, IWB, OWB. It can be used like a shoulder holster. But if I weighed substantially more than I do, my opinions on bands probably would change. On a person with a thin frame, I don't see how a person couldn't like it. And considering the price point, its worth trying.

Over the last 3 months, I have traveled between CA (ONT) and IL (MDW) roughly 20 times for work. One thing I learned is; Pelican cases are well worth the investment.

 
Even the single pistol cases which are roughly $35 are absolutely great. I highly recommend getting one, if even just to keep a gun in a vehicle.

Have you considered a Pearce grip for the standard magazine? I think they are a great addition. They don't snag on my clothes or add that much to the profile of the gun. What they do add is a much better grip- which also helps manage recoil.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HB1SYCC?pc_redir=1409576638&robot_redir=1

I have this.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003841ZBS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I will by no means claim it to be the best. Obviously a dedicated thief could still steal it, but it will keep the honest people honest. Plus, it was a cheap solution for a poor college student.

Gunvault Nanovaults are complete junk. The lock is made of plastic. It is literally easier to pry them open than it is to open them "properly".

Read the 1 star reviews on Amazon. They're 100% true, as the exact same thing happened to mine

Do yourself a favor and get a real lockbox as soon as you can.

I'm going to say a small lockable gun case. I personally just received a NanoVault gun case and think it's worth picking up. No, it's not supposed to be a true thief-proof gun safe, IMO. But if you are going somewhere that you legally cannot carry and wish to leave your gun in your car, this little fella provides at least some measure of theft. Also, if you plan on transporting it via airline in your checked luggage then this takes up very little space and can be secured to the suitcase itself. Thirdly, if you're traveling through other states via car you may need to secure it in a locked container in the trunk, and this also fits that bill nicely. It's not particularly great at anything other than being small, but I think it does fill a special niche in gun safety and for $30 is worth having.

This advice right here is spot on.

To elaborate, I like this video made by a former ACLU director for how to handle police in various situations. It's helped me talk my way out of two speeding tickets.

For dash cams, I'm using a Rexing V1 and love it but have also heard good things about the less expensive G1W.

I'm currently using a GunVault NanoVault 200
http://www.amazon.com/GunVault-NV200-NanoVault-Lock-Black/dp/B00384755S/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1457725789&sr=1-1&keywords=gunvault+nanovault

I'm eventually going to get something that bolts down to the frame but I got this on sale ($15 with free 2 day shipping) and with the cable lock down method, I can move it between my SUV and my wife's car at need. It easily fits under the seat of either vehicle. Sure it won't stop a thief with bolt cutters, or time and a way to break the lock, but it will deter the quick more common "smash the window and grab whatever's loose" type of thief.

Oh and one thing about this box. At first it kept sliding far back under the seat or would slide forward and bump my feet, if I decelerated too suddenly and strongly. So I took some velcro strips (the hook side) and put them on the bottom of the box. It gives enough friction that the box doesn't slide on it's own and little enough friction that I can grab the steel cable and pull it out from under the car seat at need if I can't reach the box itself.

These

Cheap, battery lasts a long time, works pretty damn well.

Ive been using these for the better part of 2 years now, and they work perfectly. I mainly use them for shooting outdoors but I've had friends stand 50+ feet away and say something and it will amplify what they say. It feels like cheating in a video game almost.

Thanks for introducing me to these. Amazon is selling a super slim pair of Howard Leight's for ~$40.

I'll mention them to /u/Zenel92 just in case.

Thank you!

I tried this one first: CYA Supply Co. IWB Holster Fits: Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9MM/.40 S&W - Veteran Owned Company - Made in USA - Inside Waistband Concealed Carry Holster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A9BSSW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_tswQAbZ9HWMNS

But while it was functional, it was much worse for comfort since it has a hard molded kydex interior shape that makes small point contact with the body. The Alien Gear is certainly more comfortable than that.

I have an original LCP that I carry in a [DeSantis Nemesis] (https://www.amazon.com/DeSantis-Nemesis-P3AT-Ambidextrous-Black/dp/B00266AHQ8?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-ffsb-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00266AHQ8). It works great for me. The material is a bit flexible but still rigid enough that the trigger is protected.

Yes, but this one. They don't offer much security beyond what a locked glovebox does, but they're better than nothing. I have a tether for mine as well.

> I’m not wearing ear protection

Get something like electronic muffs. I have this pair, and they're great. You can speak at normal conversational levels.

Get you one of these. It is a cheap way to love that easily concealable 7 round mag a lot more.

Amazon.com - Shield 9mm Pearce Magazine Grip Extension

I have always wanted to put a single gu safe between in the foot well between the drivers and passengers seats. Something like this.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006OGNLKA/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1524396204&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=single+gun+safe&dpPl=1&dpID=41z2DtBiD0L&ref=plSrch

Invest in a safe even one as simpke as this will keep children friends and family who shouldn't be handling tue gun safe.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00384755S/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_rxiryb31SPC9D

Here is a link to the item on Amazon . Nice cable that wraps around seat anchor. You may have to get creative.

I own one of these. With the cable, you can secure it under one of the front seats.
I also like it for air travel, because the cable can secure to the suit case's frame (where the handle is internally), which makes it a lot harder for the TSA to "misplace" it.

Amazon has that safe right now for 127, free shipping.

I use one of THESE from 5.11

Yep its also a fanny pack so what? Its perfect will carry any sized pistol, a spare mag. Side pockets are tiny just enough for a knife, flashlight and your license / permit.

Mine is a blue / black that seems to not be sold anymore. Its a lot less "tactical" than most and it sits tight enough and slim that I can even throw my t shirt over it and its hidden.

The laws regarding deadly force should be codified in the laws and statutes of your state. These would inform you as to whether shooting someone is justifiable or unjustifiable.

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There are 5 principles to to keep in mind regarding self-defense. You must satisfy all of these conditions.

https://www.claydugas.com/legal-process/self-defense-laws/

• Principle 1: Innocence.
  
• Principle 2: Imminence.
  
• Principle 3: Proportionality.
  
• Principle 4: Avoidance.
  
• Principle 5: Reasonableness.
  
  Should really read up on such things. Everyone who chooses to be an armed self-defender, imo, should know the relevant state statues on justifiable application of force.
  
  Additional materials are:
  
  Andrew Branca's Law of Self Defense, he also has state specific seminars and materials (if you want to pay for them) - http://lawofselfdefense.com
  
  Massad Ayoob's Deadly Force - https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Force-Understanding-Right-Defense/dp/1440240612
  
  
  edit: typo clean up

Can you carry in a metal safe / box like this one? Assuming you insert some foam and cutouts to keep everything separated (ammo in its own box etc)?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TONRU9S/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1#

Get a safe. Put it in a hidden spot, like closet under pile of underwear. and secure it to wall stud using 3" screws.
Gunvault has some decent options


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000J4L2EK/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1450270228&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gunvault&dpPl=1&dpID=51VTYzo76aL&ref=plSrch

http://www.amazon.com/Gunvault-SpeedVault-SV500-gun-safe/dp/B006OGNLKA

I have CYA kydex holsters for all of my CCWs now. Love those holsters. They’re good, durable, comfy, and fairly priced... you can get them for any major gun, I have one for my G19 and one for my Shield

CYA Supply Co. IWB Holster Fits: Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9MM/.40 S&W - Veteran Owned Company - Made in USA - Inside Waistband Concealed Carry Holster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A9BSSW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MBjGAbDBGG696

Ultimate Belly Band Holster for Concealed Carry | Black | Fits Gun Smith and Wesson Bodyguard, Shield, Glock 19, 42, 43, P238, Ruger LCP, and Similar Sized Guns | For Men and Women | Right Hand Draw https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEGYTC6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i.kaAbEJ1ABKR


If you're a big boy like me, make sure you get the XL.

I like my ruger lc9s pro. I prefer it over the double stack Glock I used to use

Here is the holster I use. I chose it because I don’t like wearing belts. I like gym shorts and sweats. It’s so comfortable I almost forget it’s there.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Holster-Concealed-Bodyguard-Similar/dp/B01DEGYTC6/

This is the bellyband https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEGYTC6/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_uR6xzbJ84QXGG

What do you normally wear? I'm normally either in flannel or those sheer blouses with a cami underneath. Patterns help break up the shape so that does a lot for me. And the double layers I get from the sheer and cami are enough to effectively hide any printing. I have the hardest time with solid colors so when I have to wear that I gravitate towards darker ones.

if you haven't read Branca's Book, you need too! It is the best book out there covering this stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TONRU9S/ref=oh_aui_i_d_old_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1


I posted this same question about a month ago.

I invested in this lock box that has a cable wire to wrap around you're seat frame. Perfect for leaving it in your car, but still locked and secure from smash and grabs

The pelican 1170 looks like a nice case for $37.53

https://www.amazon.com/Pelican-1170-Carrying-Case-Multi-Purpose/dp/B0038VETHS/

First - Be sure to get a fast SD card else the recording pauses every time it saves a file (every 2 min has like a 7 sec delay before the next 2 min recording) This breaks up the continuous looping.

I have this.... its... meh (but cheap)

If i did it over again i would get this which has higher reviews

Thinking of upgrading to something like this though so it doesn't take up windshield space and so people don't think it weird that I have a dash cam.... it saves an explaination

If the center console doesn't work for you here is what I use.
I have an older vehicle with practically no console. If someone were dedicated enough I know this wouldn't do much but it's better than nothing.

DeSantis Nemesis

Looks like a wallet in jeans or shorts front pockets.. I'm sure the back would be the same just not as comfortable. The outer texture of the holster grips the inside of the pocket well so the gun will be the only thing coming out on a draw.

Nb4: "Don't go anywhere that you can't carry!"

By the way, I like bulldog safes better than gunvault. I usually have tools in my vehicle somewhere and I've seen people on youtube break into their sentry safe with a flathead and about 2 minutes. The bulldogs are locked into a mounting bracket (whether you choose to mount it or not) that wraps around the safe, so you turn the key and the safe is released from the case, turn the key again and the safe opens. At the same price as the gunvault, the only thing it costs you is a slight amount of convenience. For me, my $600 gun is worth an extra flick of the wrist. It isn't impenetrable, but it greatly increases the difficulty of breaking in.

Compact: http://www.amazon.com/Bulldog-Mounting-Exterior-2-2-Inch-Interior/dp/B004MC53G8

Larger: http://www.amazon.com/Bulldog-Mounting-Exterior-2-2-Inch-Interior/dp/B005CGNANG

To add to this, looks like they're on sale at Amazon for $40. I've been using these for a year and love them.

This one does. It fits an XDs perfectly.

https://amzn.com/B00FATWGSU

Here you go

https://www.amazon.com/Shield-Holster-Veteran-Owned-Company/dp/B01A9BSSW6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491768130&sr=8-1&keywords=cya+shield+holster


I love mine. Very Comfy. Can be used either appendix or 3-5 o clock

For me personally it would be this stuff.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007VM8UC/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1450655517&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=sabre+red+pepper+spray&dpPl=1&dpID=41wFpa%2BMrFL&ref=plSrch

I keep a can in my backpack when I'm at school. I'm sure someone has mentioned it already but having a good awarness of your souroundings will do you wonders. Just remember that spray is not ment to end the fight as much as it is to disorient your attacker so you can flee. That's why most of these sprays come with a uv active agent so your attacker can be identified later. And of course make sure your state and local laws don't restrict you from having self defense spray.

Here is my option a little over but reviews are good

CYA Supply Co.. IWB Holster Fits: Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9MM/.40 S&W - Veteran Owned Company - Made in USA - Inside Waistband Concealed Carry Holster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A9BSSW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sNcKBbYKBRCWR

Yes, I have a specific TSA-approved case design. The case is rigid steel. Not this exact brand, but fairly close in design:

https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Lockbox-Handgun-Storage-Pistols/dp/B00FATWGSU/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1487372337&sr=1-3&keywords=tsa+gun+case


Edit: To expound, I take the magazine out of the pistol and place it inside the safe with the firearm. Ammunition is kept in the manufacturer's case inside the suitcase, not the safe.

[This one](http://www.Ultimate.com/ Belly Band Holster for Concealed Carry | Black | Fits Gun Smith and Wesson Bodyguard, Shield, Glock 19, 42, 43, P238, Ruger LCP, and Similar Sized Guns | For Men and Women | Right Hand Draw https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEGYTC6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_9Blqzb7BM6YFD) looks interesting

I use this safe locked in my trunk. It's not perfect, but it should be good enough for what you are looking for. https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Lockbox-Handgun-Storage-Pistols/dp/B00FATWGSU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1475165086&sr=8-6&keywords=car+safe

I use this Ultimate Belly Band Holster for Concealed Carry | Black | Fits Gun Smith and Wesson Bodyguard, Shield, Glock 19, 42, 43, P238, Ruger LCP, and Similar Sized Guns | For Men and Women | Right Hand Draw https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEGYTC6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ddnRzbRGS5M1C whenever I'm wearing athletic shorts. Like it far more than pocket carry.

Get a car safe and keep it in your vehicle. Carry a good pocket knife or even pepper spray if you can if you can't carry a weapon at your work.

My vote: SABRE 3-IN-1 Pepper Spray - Police Strength - Compact Size w/ Clip

This one.

SABRE RED Pepper Gel - Police Strength - Tactical Series with 18-Foot (5.5M) Range, 18 Bursts & Belt Holster https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKSPR8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_3OGTBb3VDJTRC

Everyone has given you really good advice. I don't have anything to add except a recommendation to read the book Deadly Force--Understanding Your Right to Self Defense by Massad Ayoob. IMO, everyone who has the capacity to use deadly force should read it. It will answer a lot of your questions on this topic.

Checkout the sidebar at /r/Dashcam

I would go with whatever has 1080p, 32+GB capable microSD card slot, and a good amazon rating.

I wouldn't do GPS with speed in case you got into an accident as the cops could use it against you.

FWIW I use this one with a 32GB card for 1 week of daily commute recording time: https://www.amazon.com/Black-Box-Original-Dashboard-Dash/dp/B00FONBG1A/ref=sr_1_14?s=car&ie=UTF8&qid=1467139831&sr=1-14&keywords=dash+cam

From top to bottom (also the order in which they were bought):

• Springfield Armory 1911 Range Officer 9mm
  
• Smith and Wesson M&P Shield 9mm
  
• Ruger LCP .380
  
  
  
  The Shield is my EDC, but I live in Florida and sometimes it's too hot to dress to the gun, so I picked up the LCP on days I just want to throw it in my pocket. Also picked up the DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster and am really liking it thus far (though I haven't been to the range with the holster yet)!

I carry a Walther 5" PPQ, similar in size, just fine. For IWB I use a Clinger Stingray it's very comfy and works great. For cycling I use a 5.11 Pistol Pouch it's the only time I use off body but cycling, especially on longer rides, demands it.

Better yet, get the same product with inert contents.

Real pepper gel

inert cannister for practice/training

I have something like this. The cable locks inside the box and loops around something bolted down like the actual car seat. No drilling necessary.

I AIWB a shield and I don’t have any problems with printing and I’m 5”8 and 160 pounds I love this holster and you can carry it in other spots if you want CYA Supply Co. IWB Holster Fits:... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A9BSSW6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This. I have had one in my car and its very sturdy, i would recommend getting the improved cable with it.

Maybe "lifestyle" can be interpreted in different ways; carrying a gun does require a different, more serious, "mindset" than simply carrying a phone, and it deserves more careful consideration about how to carry it than how you decide to carry your phone.

People are different, but I'll share from my personal experience. When I was coming of age, I had that typical attitude of a young, single man, always thinking I was right, that I would always win, that nobody could touch me, and if anybody tried anything—BOOM!—I'd take care of them. I was treating it irresponsibly, like a casual fling. And that's the wrong attitude for a person carrying around the power of life and death.

By reading Boatman's essay and Massad Ayoob's In the Gravest Extreme, I learned the seriousness of the matter and how I needed to fix my attitude towards carrying. I needed to make changes to my mindset and to my habits. The decision to start carrying a gun led me to really actually "grow up" and stop acting like a kid.

Now married, I can barely convince my wife to come to the range with me, let alone convince her to change her mindset or habits. As you suggest, it is far too much to ask everybody to start out by upending their lifestyle for the sake of carrying a gun. But, in the long term, I think the responsible carrier eventually realizes that he has made changes. And so, I offered the quote to the OP as food for thought: while he shouldn't go tell his wife, "Hey, this is so important that you need to change your entire wardrobe," when she asks for help or expresses frustrations with carrying, he may think about suggesting different types of clothing.

One of these under the aback seat with the cable around support pillar for the seat.

Karsh

Have a lock for every lock hole on your case. Also a non-TSA lock for the suitcase the locked pistol case is put in.

My Pelican pistol case has two lock holes.

https://www.amazon.com/Pelican-1170-Case-Foam-Black/dp/B0038VETHS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1498332853&sr=8-2&keywords=pelican+pistol

Jet Blue requires a non-TSA lock to be in each of those holes or they will not let you check the gun. I almost missed my flight home due to this rule which is NOT on their website. Which I showed the ticketing agent but he said it was still policy and couldn't do anything about it.

They are required to and do sell TSA approved gun cases for situations like this, $55 for a pistol case.

I have read legal advice that teaches you to offer your name, the fact that you needed to defend yourself, additional exculpatory information (such as assailants weapons), and the location of witnesses that observed the fight. The reasoning was that a simple or hardline "don't talk to the police" stance might risk that evidence being missed, or the witnesses not being interviewed in time. You NEED that stuff to clear your name, and it's probably better if you direct the cops to that evidence. You're not giving up a whole lot by giving up that little bit of information.

Other than that, he says, you take the fifth. Not much different from this advice.

The Law of Self Defense, 3rd Edition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F9FAJBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-tdMAbG5FJGAJ

for valentines day last year I bought some targets and used them as wrapping paper for my husbands gift, then I bought him pair of electronic range headphones (it cancels out shots but you can still hear talking), some ammo, more targets for him to actually use, and chocolate (cant go wrong with chocolate). but those headphones are amazing for a day at the range.


https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-Amplification-Electronic-R-01526/dp/B001T7QJ9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479406082&sr=8-1&keywords=gun+range+headphones

I heartily recommend you read this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Law-Self-Defense-3rd-ebook/dp/B01F9FAJBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497645297&sr=8-1&keywords=law+of+self+defense+3rd+edition

My wife has a bra holster that works well, and a waist band holster.

Bra

Waist band

As was mentioned check out the talon grips. Also, if you're using the 7 round magazine, try adding a Pearce Grips mag extension or switching to the 8 round magazine.

If the height is OK but you want something a bit thicker, consider making a switch to a Glock 26.

And "tie" means secure with a steel cable.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003841ZBS/ref=asc_df_B003841ZBS5049300/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B003841ZBS&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167124607404&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8324027365771694686&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008145&hvtargid=pla-298274016134

I reluctantly paid $380 for my shield. Love the gun though. Its my new carry. You need one of these

http://www.amazon.com/Pearce-Grips-Magazine-Extension-Shield/dp/B00HB1SYCC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426522499&sr=8-1&keywords=pearce+grip+extension+shield

I use a Speed Vault 500 mounted to the back of my night stand. Just make sure to use a Li-Ion or NiCad battery for longest life.

Massad Ayoob's "In The Gravest Extreme" is a really good book about CCW from the private citizen perspective.

It's definitely dated, but a lot of it is still relevant today.

http://www.amazon.com/Gravest-Extreme-Firearm-Personal-Protection/dp/0936279001/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376033653&sr=1-1&keywords=in+the+gravest+extreme

I use a GunVault SV500 SpeedVault Handgun Safe. I have it bolted onto the side of my bed, using the screws that it came with; it works great! Definitely check it out. I got the one that accepts a key or pin code. They also had a fingerprint version but I was nervous about relying on an accurate fingerprint scan. It opens very quickly and I practice opening it every night before going to bed which also lets me check the battery.

Gunvault Speedvault

V line top draw

If your only goal is to keep it away from your kids... get this

This will not protect against a motivated burglar with a $5 pawn-shop hammer.

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I'm being informed that the above safe is garbage after a few months. Back to the drawing board.

Get something from LockSAF/LockSāF if you can find it for sale... Deviant Ollam (world-renowned expert on 21st century security and locks) suggests the PBS-001 model, but it appears to be out of stock everywhere.

Agreed. Look into this.

The most recommended belly band here

Crossbreeds also makes a Belly Band

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEGYTC6/?tag=thegunzone-20

Whats the verdict on this?

Bulldog's have the cable option, or the bracket. Here is an example of what i'm talking about:

https://www.amazon.com/Bulldog-Cases-Mounting-Bracket-Cable/dp/B004MC53G8

I have a couple of those, in two different sizes. When properly inserted into the bracket, you can not remove it without either spending a lot of time cutting the bracket, or with the key, as the lock actually has a part that secures it to the bracket.

This is the lock box I bought myself. A cable can be cut pretty easily. This box has a cable AND a cage that you can bolt down to the car under your seat, and if you slide the box in with the lip facing down, there's no way to pry it open.

I wouldn't get someone a holster unless I knew what holster they wanted because it's a personal preference. I asked my brother if he wanted my old holster a few days ago and he declined and said he'd "never really carry like that".

It's a pearce extended grip, got it on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HB1SYCC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521486431&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=pearce+grip+extension+shield&dpPl=1&dpID=41Hkm19OFPL&ref=plSrch

This is the one I have in my truck. Seems they've raised the price, but this was a great buy at $50. I still wouldn't hesitate to pay what they're asking now.

Exactly, a glovebox won't stop a determined criminal. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TONRU9S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

Far as I can tell, she can legally carry a taser. Do NOT get a stun gun, they are only useful as a deterrent, you have to be literally touching somebody with one to do anything, and pretty much only output voltage. Tasers, on the other hand, can be used from significantly farther away, and deliver a much higher amperage, which is the part that actually drops people. It's not good for very long, maybe 20 seconds at most, so if you end up getting a taser, make absolutely sure that she knows knows KNOWS to immediately seek sanctuary before calling authorities. Don't go miles away, just get somewhere safe but close, otherwise with a good enough lawyer the assailant could catch her on an Assault charge, even if she calls the cops first. No sense risking it.

As for OC spray, try getting OC gel instead, it's outputs an adhesive, cohesive line with a much lower chance of blowback. I think Sabre is what some people use. Haven't touched OC in a while, it's not a good idea to carry both it and a gun at the same time.

A good knife can't hurt long as she knows how to use it. Kershaw assisted open or whatnot.

The Laws of Self Defense by Andrew Branca
Start there and supplement with the state statutes found online.

5.11 had a triangle sling bag that has a concealed pouch on the front of the strap. When you wear it the holster operates like a cross draw. The pouch is detachable and can be rigged on and cross body strap if you can loop it on.

They used to sell just the holster but I believe it still comes with the bag.

Only really works if you have a cross body strap and doesn't fit much more than a compact, but the pull tabs unzip it quickly and for a while I was squeezing my P226 into it.

Edit: found on Amazon: 5.11 Tactical Select Carry Pistol Pouch, Charcoal/Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MTIQRG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EFGQCbEYQ5CQN

Grab yourself a cheap lockable steel container like this...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FATWGSU?psc=1

Screw it inside the closet (hallway bathroom etc - away from bedroom for reasons already discussed)... Either above or beside the door on the inside of the closet so the only way to see it is to be literally inside the closet looking for it. Use 2.5"-3" screws as mentioned previously. Done.

Tueller's Rule would beg to differ that. Many tests have shown someone with a knife can close a gap of almost 30 feet in less than a couple seconds. Depending on who's carrying, that's faster than they can draw.

Everyone carrying should read this book. Tons of source material that, if you've read it, can be introduced in a court.

Updated version

Amazon sometimes has them on sale but I purchased them from Academy locally. They price matched and even took an additional 5% off.

Fox Outdoor Tactical Fanny Pack

5.11 Select Carry Pistol Pouch

Maxpedition JK-1 Concealed Carry Pouch (Small)

Maxpedition JK-2 Concealed Carry Pouch (Large)

Misc Maxpedition CCW gear

Tactical Tailor Lunar Concealed Carry Pouch

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MTIQRG/?coliid=IQUE1QXS470FG&colid=2QJCX7DY1XL2J&psc=0

Is this what you're talking about? I think I'll try this

I don't see it on their site anymore, but I think this is it.

5.11 Tactical Select Carry Pistol Pouch, Charcoal/Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MTIQRG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_R2AJBbWYR20JD

https://smile.amazon.com/GunVault-NV200-NanoVault-Lock-Black/dp/B00384755S

I bought two of the NV200 Nanovaults yesterday. It is key opened versus combo for the NV300. It's a little cheaper, and some people said it was all metal I think, as opposed to the NV300 having maybe plastic parts in the locking mechanism.

http://www.amazon.com/GunVault-NV200-NanoVault-Style-Pistols/dp/B00384755S

Piggybacking on this comment, I recommend the GunVault NV200.

This one or the 1120 probably.

I use this.

Very solidly built. Plus it comes with a cable you can use along with or instead of the bracket.

Dang it!! Fixed

I think I'll go with this

You should consider a GunVault SV500 SpeedVault. It's relatively inexpensive and reliable. This is what I store my EDC in when I get home from work. I have 2 small children.

[The dashcam I have.] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FONBG1A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=XV11BGMHIJNL&coliid=I3R2NM4V0ANHOZ) The only thing I've used it for so far is showing people a gigantic bear that I came across.

Not at all, it's full kydex and has a sweat guard.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01A9BSSW6/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495496278&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=s%26w+m%26p+shield+9mm+holster&dpPl=1&dpID=41d7sMwtjVL&ref=plSrch

Good call on never leaving it in the car when you can avoid it.

When you can't avoid it, we had a local case where one of these was cable locked to the seat frame, and it was left in the vehicle. Everything else was taken, but they couldn't get it open or cut the cable before they bailed.

If someone's in a hurry and not prepared to deal with it, there's a decent chance of retaining your firearm.

I tried that as well, but the issue for me was the at the elastic was extremely uncomfortable against my skin. What I ended up doing was using the kydex shell with the included velcro backing from that with the belly band mentioned above (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEGYTC6/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_yUgIzbV7RK0V4) and it works extremely well. I only wear it when I have to use deeper concealment, as I can get away with OWB at 3 with a sport shirt in summer months, and a fleece vest in cooler weather and have a much faster draw.

Just get a car lockbox like this and put it in there.

I do this twice every day in my work's parking garage in the middle of a populous city just outside Washington DC. Tinted windows help, but even then, if you're doing it while seated, no one is going to see it anyway. They're going to see a dude bending back in his seat. You could be adjusting your pants/belt/balls for all they can tell. It's not a big deal.

This
I wouldnt consider it a "safe" but it locks securely enough for my taste when I have to leave my gun in my Jeep, I just have it tethered to the seat frame, or I have it tethered to my rollcage in the back.

The link below is To a book by massad ayoob and it contains some insight into your question. The short answer is no, you should not modify your carry firearm.

Deadly Force: Understanding Your Right to Self Defense https://www.amazon.com/dp/1440240612/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_V6ZHwbDKT877B

If you want to see a short passage about this topic the following link has what you need: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/01/brad-kozak/the-massad-ayoob-chronicles-part-v/

I have this

Most boxes aren't going to stop determined criminals, but in a smash and grab where your box is cable-locked to the hardware under your seat (which is totally hidden anyway), this will deter most in such cases.

I think people get a silly hard-on for instant bedroom access. You aren't John Wick. There won't be an entire crew of baddies teleporting into your bedroom.

A quick-assess push button lockbox is fine, or those nifty SpeedVaults. I have a hard time believing you're going to sleepwalk through punching the combination and pulling your gun out. But IMO the gun should be locked even if you didn't sleepwalk.

Yea that's a carry to the range sort of bag.

https://www.amazon.com/DeSantis-Nemesis-P3AT-Ambidextrous-Black/dp/B00266AHQ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469684002&sr=8-1&keywords=desantis+nemesis

get one of those, I've had mine for years and no problems. Draw is easy.

Guys,
This is a horrible reminder to keep your firearm in your possession at all times.

This is entirely avoidable! If you leave your firearm in your car, lock it up in a lock box. 20 dollars could have saved this childs life.

https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-X-Large-75210-Portable-Measures/dp/B00TONRU9S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1506687523&sr=8-4&keywords=car+safe+gun&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011

This is what my Shield travels in https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0038VETHS/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Holds gun, three mags, locks tight and takes up little room in luggage

I don't often leave my weapon in my truck but I have a Nanovault 300 in case I need to. If you're just using it just for storage and don't need to get into it quickly then this might work for you. Mine came with a cable that you can put through the seat frame. I'm not sure if its just mine but the knob is a bit tough to turn.

http://www.amazon.com/GunVault-NV300-NanoVault-Combination-Lock/dp/B003841ZBS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1417368025&sr=8-2&keywords=nanovault

Consider something like this for next to the bed. And just don't let your child know the combo. But seriously you don't want to unload and reload your gun that much, that's twice a day every day so far. It's not good for the ammo, and you run a higher risk of an ND loading and unloading that often than you do just storing it loaded

Wicked Video G1W dashcam. As I say, I bought the 32 Gig SD card with it so for everything I think I spent around $80.

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Box-Original-Dashboard-Dash/dp/B00FONBG1A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466520386&sr=8-1&keywords=Wicked+Video+dash+cam

If I'm going somewhere I can't legally carry [90% of the time] I leave my gun at home. If I'm gone for a few days and want to take my gun, I bring small GunVault and stash it under one of the seats.

Spray doesn't always work. I had a dog get loose and rush me and my dog when we were out on a walk. They got into it instantly. I backed up and emptied my entire can of spray into the faces of both dogs. It did absolutely nothing. Luckily my dog is 150 lbs (compared to the maybe 50lb heeler mix that attacked) and he won that fight for me. Had my dog not been there, and the vicious dog went after me... I would have been up shit creek without my firearm. That spray didn't even phase the dog. I love dogs and I never want to hurt someone pet if I can help it, but if I get attacked I'm going to do what I have to do.
That being said, I'm open to suggestions on a spray that will actually work on dogs. this is the spray I used.

At very least get one of those cheapy $20 lockboxes that attach under the seat with a cable.

Literally 2 days ago I was picking up my newest firearm from my LGS and they got 2 calls in the hour or so I was there asking if a stainless Smith & Wesson, a Glock something or other, and then a third one (don't remember) happened to be sold them.

From the sounds of it he said in our area there's been a rash of car break-ins. I also follow the local/surrounding police Facebook pages and have seen it confirmed on there.

If you have to leave it, LOCK IT UP!

Otherwise you could inadvertently add to the "ghost guns" bad guys use and that the media loves to report about.

If the story by the witness in the link is accurate, the CCW holder was the initial aggressor and could be charged with second degree murder or voluntary manslaughter.

I've been reading this book lately, and I highly suggest it to anyone that frequently has questions like this.

Can have weapons on campus just not inside campus buildings. You can concealed carry with a permit walking around campus, just cannot enter a building, as that would result in a felony. Storing a gun in a locked vehicle is legal. I use this lockbox . The lock is easy to pick (all of them are) but it is sturdy and difficult to pry open.

the fuck you want, 4K video proof?

its not hard, i grabbed this band

Here is a woman who runs with a G19

Here is a man who carries a G43 but also says it does a G17 fine (he didnt want to carry the weight of the G17)

Just because youre too fat to get off your ass doesnt mean the rest of us are too.

The travel won’t be that much of a hassle, I travel with my CC gun. It just needs to be empty, the ammunition separate from the gun, the ammunition in the original packaging preferably, and the weapon itself in a locking hard case. I just use a cheap all metal case big enough for a handgun like this: https://www.amazon.com/SnapSafe-Portable-Handgun-Approved-Measures/dp/B00FATWGSU?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00FATWGSU.
The real question is what you’ll be doing in Las Vegas. If it’s gambling and bars you won’t be able to carry it much anyway so I’d leave it at home so it isn’t stolen from your hotel room.

I keep a can of pepper gel in my backpack, and my backpack is always with me during the work week. My SO keeps the same type of pepper spray in her purse (or a smaller little pink one on her keychain—she doesn't have her CPL), so, yeah, I usually have pepper spray with me somehow.

I really only have it in case I run across a neighborhood dog that wants to taste me or if I have to go somewhere I could get arrested for carrying. I also bring it with me to the gym since I'm afraid my old Corolla will get stolen and I don't want to leave my gun in a gym locker.

I had to Google this thing to see what the heck you're talking about.

https://buy.taser.com/about-the-taser-pulse/

I wouldn't recommend buying a taser that shoots prongs out. If those prongs fail to make proper contact with your target, your taser is now useless. It looks like this model has a stun gun built in as a backup, but at that point you might as well go with a cheap stun gun.

In terms of price and effectiveness, I would rather just purchase several pepper gel canisters and leave them in places such as your back pack, car door pockets, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NKSPR8

Whatever you decide to carry on campus, I would argument it with a high-power tactical flashlight. Simply walking around with a lit flashlight at night should be enough to give someone pause if they attempt to approach you while you're alone. A tactical flashlight will be able to switch to enough lumen output that you can blind someone with it well your retreat.

https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88040-ProTac-Professional-Tactical/dp/B007RB82CS/