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First off; congrats on landing what is essentially my dream job.

Those Dueter packs that mightycarrot suggested are absolutely amazing. Though I never owned one myself, my late friend swore up and down by them and I can vouch just from the trips we took together. However, if you're looking for more of a budget pack, the Teton 4000 has been my best friend after I replaced an old Osprey pack. I've had it last two years and haven't had one glaring issue with it and it is still as sturdy as the day I bought it.

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00167TGII/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367568364&sr=8-1&keywords=teton+backpack

All I can say about specialized gear is learn the area and take all the advice you can from veterans who are familiar with it. Season, terrain, water/food availability, fire restrictions etc. will determine much of your gear.

There are, however, five things that you ALWAYS should have on you when trekking into a wilderness area:

-A solid fixed blade knife, preferably full tang (Don't skimp here, a good $60+ survival blade is invaluable when your life depends on it)
-Some type of steel container cup (no plastic, needs to be able to withstand a fire)
-A fair amount of cordage (100ft+).. tar covered bank line or paracord preferably as they are the most durable and multipurpose
-A decent sized ferro rod and the skills to use it (not always "sure-fire" but will still work when wet and will outlast dozens of bic lighters)
-A small first aid kit

These five items should NEVER leave your pack no matter where you go. Even if you start venturing into the ultra-light community, these five are extremely hard to make or find in nature. They will save your life if things don't end up as planned. They also will only add 3 -4 lbs maximum to your load and you will never wish you didn't bring them along.

Sometimes, I feel like people within the backpacking community can get too comfortable with their abilities and their frequented areas and skimp on gear in favor of less weight. Never opt out of essential gear and always stay up to date on the skills necessary to use them.

Combined with a pack that fits you well, appropriate attire, good physical fitness and the company of an experienced companion, I'm sure you'll catch on very quickly.

Stay safe and best of luck, friend.

You do not have to spend a lot. Here are some suggestions that I choose to use even though I could spend the money on more expensive gear.

Pack: Rent until you decide you want to do this a lot and have already bought the rest of your gear

Tent: rent it for this trip if you don't already have one. If you do, it's best to split it up, poles and fly for you and tent for him or vice versa

Sleeping bags, bring them if you have them or rent

Stove: http://www.amazon.com/Ultralight-Backpacking-Canister-Ignition-silvery/dp/B00ENDRORM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396264963&sr=8-1&keywords=backpacking+stove Works just as well as the 50$ one.

Water filter: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396265006&sr=8-1&keywords=sawyer+mini+water+filter cheap, durable, no moving parts to worry about and it's super light

Pot: A lot of people use this, but it might be a bit small for you depending on what kind of food you're going to cook but this works well for freezer bag meals http://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396265044&sr=8-1&keywords=grease+can

Long Johns and other clothing: Walmart usually has decent options. Make sure that they are synthetic. You may find that you already have a few things if you look through your clothes at home. Depending how thick they are your snowboarding socks might make good hiking socks or if you have long underwear for snowboarding they would be useful camping.

What are you doing for shoes? Do not waste money on boots if you don't already have them. 90% of trails can be done in good running shoes and 95% of trails can be done in light hiking shoes.

Misc hints: For water bottles just re-use old gatorade bottles, those nalgenes are super heavy. Think about getting two hiking poles instead of just walking stick but this is a preference thing. Avoid cotton at all costs and have fun!

You say tent and sleeping pads but have this tagged as Travel. I'm confused...

Why is REI not somewhere you want to shop? They sell quality gear and have educated salespeople.

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Your question is really wide open... Could you provide more details to help us help you?

1. Where is your planned trip? When?
   
2. What low temps do you plan to sleep in?
   
3. Will you be solo or with a group? 1-person shelter or more?
   
4. What is your budget?
   
5. Do you value cost, weight, or quality most? Pick 2.
   
6. What is your experience? Ever been on a day hike? Car camped?
   
7. What gear do you need other than tent and sleeping pad?
   
   You don't have to be super specific with answers, but anything helps. Just trying to get an idea of your needs, because the options for backpacking gear are huge.
   
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   The goal is to keep your weight/bulk down. The #1 way to do this is by skipping gear that's unnecessary. While that's hard for someone new, since you don't know what is necessary vs. unnecessary, try hard to skip 'just-in-case' or too many 'luxury' items.
   
   If your full pack weight is under 30 pounds you are doing well, over 50 and you should rethink your approach.
   
   Most new backpackers will require a backpack in the 65 liter range. Fit is important to comfort, so if you could go into a local shop and try on a variety of options - do it.
   
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   I wrote this semi-recently, check it out:
   
   

• https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/70cxqr/recommended_getting_started_gear_budget/
  
  Or check this out from /r/Ultralight:
  
  
• https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/4iz7re/ive_compiled_a_list_of_ultracheap_and_ultralight/
  
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  If all that is too much... ignore it and go buy this:
  
  
• Tent: https://www.amazon.com/Naturehike-Outdoor-Double-layer-Waterproof-Lightweight/dp/B0749JS147
  
• Sleeping Pad: https://www.amazon.com/Klymit-Static-Lightweight-Sleeping-Green/dp/B007RFG0NM

Ehh I'd be wary. You can find gear for cheap, you just have to do some searching. Looks like you've got plenty of time to do that, too. If you're not willing to commit to backpacking as a hobby just yet, don't worry about buying the $300 sleeping bag. I have a $40 one I got on Amazon and it works amazing if you run hot. We have a "guest" backpack that we got from Costco for $25 (yeah it's not the best engineered pack, but perfect for someone who only goes once every few years). Costco is also great for cheap, non-cotton clothing and socks. They should be getting all of that stuff in in a few weeks.

REI gear sales are the way to go for headlamps, pads and tents. This is a good mid-level cooking set for two, and the Pocket Rocket is a good quality, low price stove option.

Basically, for the cost to rent, you could get mostly set-up with mid-range gear you can keep. You've got the time to find the good deals, why not take advantage of it?

Also, super jealous. I've always wanted to go to Glacier N.P.

This is what i got as my first back in the same boat as you

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00167TGII/ adjusts from M-XL

and my wife this one (slightly smaller) adjusts from S-L
http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Internal-Backpack-Orange/dp/B001KBYPIG/

Now these are by no means Mt Everest packs but they have all the bells and whistles, are comfortable, adjustable, and have survived plenty of 1-2 nighter trips on the AT and held up well.

I am 5'11"/6' and 180lbs and i use the "XL" but could probably use the L

With amazons return policy i would try it and return it if it doesn't fit properly.

Now a lot of people will only recommend the best gear, but to "start out" i think you'll be fine w/ a cheaper/decent pack and if you actually enjoy/do it a lot.. then upgrade and you have spares to sell/store/loan and bring more friends with.

I am not an expert and cannot comment on that pack, but thats my input on my first packs i got for about the same price.

A couple years ago I had been hiking a lot and decided to see if backpacking was for me. I didn't want to jump too deep into the gear money pit without knowing how I'd like longer overnights so I bought a set of cheaper gear and have been slowly replacing it.

I started with this pack from Amazon. (I think it was only $50 when I got it) Its not the best pack in the world, but I was really happy with it on my first several trips. I've since replaced it with a nice Gregory and the main differences are that the Gregory carries its load more comfortably and feels more reliable (meaning it will last longer). The front end of this pack felt perfectly solid, but the connection between the pack and the shoulder straps seemed like it might give out after a couple years.

I bought this tent and still use it. There are lighter, more backpack-y options for sure, but for $100 I'm very pleased with it. It takes up way too much of my pack, but it holds up well and has never leaked on me.

Re pack size: Some folks would probably have no problem getting gear + supplies for a 4 night trip in a 45L pack. However, for folks like us who are newer at this I'd say go bigger. Get a 65L for anything over 2 nights. Part of cutting down your pack size is experience in knowing what you will need and what is dead weight. Also people who are more experienced have invested $$ in lighter gear or learned to fashion their own light weight gear.

I've got a ton of budget best bang for the buck gear, but one place you absolutely should not skimp on is socks. Buy 2-3 pair of SmartWool Expedition weight socks. It's like wearing slippers inside your boots.
Socks
Here's some more of the cheap (mostly) gear that I purchased and am still happy with. This includes some revisions I've made after a somewhat miserable trip to Yosemite. I am a freak for reading reviews and digging for the best price.
$8 Stove
$8 Mug
$16 underwear... okay, this is almost as important as socks!
$29 Solar charger, or DIY
$85 Water filter, didn't want to skimp here although water tabs are doable
$9 550 paracord
$14 multitool - use a small cheap knife to 'cut' costs
$28 titanium Anodized Aluminum pot
$9 Tarp Couldn't find the link, but it's at WalMart in their camping section, by Outdoor Products.
$9 titanium spork
$45 hammock - you can get cheaper on campmor, but this one caught my eye at REI
$16 hammock suspension - you can get cheaper by DIY
$14 Compass
Sierra Trading Post has Comfortrel longjohns for $17/top or bottom - feels cheap, but effective.
$24 15 degree mummy bag IMO the next best thing for the money is The Cat's Meow at ~$90.
$22 tent - small, decent weight, cheap, hard to find. Not sure if I trust in rain, but worked great for five days of decent weather and 30 degree nights. Dumped this for the hammock setup due to weight and size. (but it's not that heavy or big)


In addition, I'll be switching to the $45 54litre pack from Costco.
GoLite has some crazy cheap light backpacks, but they don't seem to do well for loads heavier than ~25 pounds, which you probably won't hit on a budget.
$10 tab stove - haven't used, gonna try this out soon

Wal Mart has been seriously stepping up their backpacking game in the last year or so. Take a look their. A lot of the products are decent quality at crazy good prices.
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As for food, you can't go wrong with Mountain House.

Some pointers:

Do bring duct tape. Great for blisters and many other things.

Do put Fresh batteries before your hike

Do pack a Mini bic lighter

Don't pack too heavy. Visit r/ultralight for ideas on how to reduce pack weight. Try to be under 45-50 lbs. you can hike more miles, and your trip will be more enjoyable.

Do not wear brand new shoe/boots. Break them in.

Don't wear cotton

Do Know how to read a topo map and triangulate your location.

Do carry an Essential 10

Do let people know where you are going.

A great book for beginners is The Complete Walker by Colin Fletcher.

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Walker-IV-Colin-Fletcher/dp/0375703233/ref=sr_1_1/180-6869170-5187653?ie=UTF8&qid=1420102640&sr=8-1&keywords=complete+walker

I don't know how old you are, your life experience, or if you are male/female, so I can't really advise you whether or not it's a good idea to go it alone. Maturity and common sense definitely be required. Welcome to Backpacking. It's a beautiful hobby that will provide meaningful memories to last a lifetime..



"I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life..."

Henry David Thoreau

It's nothing fancy, but I absolutely LOVE this sleeping bag. It packs to about the size of a milk jug, and it's still pretty warm. I've taken it on countless trips, and it's still going strong.

Is there a particular reason that you want a filter with a pump in it? After using several different water pumps (MSR Miniworks, MSR Sweetwater, a couple Katadyn filters, etc.), and several kinds of tablets (PolarPure, MicroPur, Portable Aqua), I would highly recommend the Sawyer Squeeze style water filters.

• You can find them for around $40
  
• It's faster than any mechanical pump I've used
  
• The entire system costs less than a replacement cartridge for one of the pump-style filters
  
• The system weighs practically nothing
  
• If you're lazy (I know I am), you can just fill it up with water, plug the hose of your Camelbak into the output port of the filter, and hang the bag in a tree. Come back 5 minutes later, and you have two quarts of clean water.
  
  The only thing that I dislike: you can't allow the filter cartridge to freeze. If you do, it has to be replaced. The ceramic and fiberglass cartridges for the Miniworks and Sweetwater pumps didn't have this restriction.
  
  Some people say that they have problems with the Sawyer bags leaking, but I haven't had this problem yet. On the other hand, I never squeeze my bag - I always let gravity do my work for me. Dehydration is a major safety issue in the backcountry, so I always carry a backup bag and MicroPur tablets, just to be safe. You can also use your stove to boil water in a pinch.
  
  Normally I don't get really excited about particular pieces of my outdoor gear, but buying my squeeze filter really changed the way that I backpack. It used to be that producing a liter of fresh water was such a pain that I didn't want to let a single drop go to waste. Now I'm much more relaxed with my water use - I feel like I've got more time to enjoy my trip rather than stand on a slippery rock hunched over a stream.

Yes they are off my list because I ended up purchasing them. The pad was the [Klymit Static V](Klymit Static V Lightweight Sleeping Pad, Green/Char Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007RFG0NM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kesFxbNDWCCR4) and the bag was the [Teton Trailhead 20](TETON Sports TrailHead 20F Ultralight Sleeping Bag, Orange/Grey https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007JTLKCC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dgsFxbG1YRZ7S). I wasn't feeling the quality of the Teton bag so I ended up returning that. Never used it on the trail but laying in my bed with it I didn't like the feel of the fabric. That's one thing that I'm going to put more money into. As for the pad though it's awesome. Took my sickly lungs about 20 breaths to blow up but it works well. It definitely doesn't need to be pumped up as tight as an air bed. Good quality item there that o would buy again.

Is there a cheaper sleeping bag you would recommend? I just have a cheap random one i've had around for ages, idk if it's worth getting a new one or not. Only problem with this one is it seems really hard to roll up in a small roll.

E: i'm looking at this or this or this or this right now, but 20 degree seems too much, it'll probably be way too warm. Kind of hard to find one that i'll actually fit in length wise haha

I just recently went on my first backpacking trip. It was just an overnight trip, but I used this: http://www.amazon.com/Esbit-Ultralight-Folding-Pocket-Tablets/dp/B001C1UGVO

It was the cheapest (10 dollars including enough fuel for a day or two), smallest stove I could find, it was rated well and I got free shipping. After using it, I was very happy with it. I used it to boil water for coffee, and I cooked hotdogs and chili with it as well.

I was literally just using it on the ground (and I only brought a small lantern and some glow-sticks with me for light. I was able to cook on it in the dark nonetheless. Super easy and effective.

If I decide to go on longer trips, I might get something bigger, but then again I might not. It's pretty awesome.

The only downside is that the fuel has a bad odor, and you have to wash your hands (or wear gloves) when handling it. Simple problem to fix though. Just don't sit downwind of it and keep your food covered if possible.

It's bulky (even with the compression bag) but good enough as a standard sleeping bag, the coldest weather I used it was a little below freezing in a tent and it did fine, the link you gave claims down to -50*F, I find that hard to believe, but I'm sure someone else can chime in on the colder temps. If it were me, I'd go with something else.


Also, while of the subject of military gear, I would like to say that a poncho liner + poncho is a match made in heaven.

As everyone else has said, ditch the sleeping bag.

Unlike everyone else, I offer a solution.

The poncho liner aka "the woobie" is the greatest creation on earth. I got one of these while I was in the military and have dragged it around the entire earth with me. Soft, perfectly warm, lightweight and highly packable. I don't know how this secret hasn't escaped the military. I will send you a link, you won't regret it!

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Military-Weather-Poncho-Blanket/dp/B001L0VX2W

How much luggage does he travel with and how many countries is he going to? That will determine what’s a good choice.

My fave travel gadgets have been

1. battery charger, a large one that can go multiple days without charging. And also your friends will like to use.
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00X5RV14Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511981716&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=20000+mah+portable+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=31MnmAEjDaL&ref=plSrch
   
   
2. micro towel. (It’s a game changer) I got the one at rei in a large. Just big enough to wrap around your waist.
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01K1TX77W/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1511981752&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=travel+towel&dpPl=1&dpID=416HcYQQ56L&ref=plSrch
   
   
3. cabeau travel pillow, eye mask, ear plugs (if he’s flying a lot or going to a lot of places. This is my sleep anywhere kit and essential if traveling multiple countries)
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004ZIDXK2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511981907&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cabeau+evolution+pillow&dpPl=1&dpID=41RvkBLi8jL&ref=plSrch
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GSO1D9O/ref=mp_s_a_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1511981971&sr=8-3&keywords=eye+mask&dpPl=1&dpID=41NEugUfp7L&ref=plSrch
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XW0P84I/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1511982013&sr=8-11&keywords=ear+plugs
   
   
   
4. collapsable water bottle(spending money on bottled water adds up and you can get water after you pass through security for the plane when the air gets dry. I get dry throat on planes)
   
   https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015RZTPJY/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1511982056&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=collapsible+water+bottle&dpPl=1&dpID=41lBy7By8XL&ref=plSrch
   
   
5. a collapsable travel day back pack (man purse or if you buy things. I keep my water bottle and battery in there. Extra clothes, selfie stick etc and if you’re over your luggage limit you can take stuff out and put it in there. When not in use it fold up into a small bag.
   
   http://www.eddiebauer.com/product/stowaway-packable-20l-daypack/82300168?showProducts=111&color=147&sizetype=&size=
   
   
   
   

This one works pretty well for me. It's about the size of a soccer ball and weighs about 3 pounds. Not the lightest thing in the world, but packs down pretty small and is good down to about 30 degrees.

Suisse Sport Adult Adventurer Mummy Ultra-Compactable Sleeping Bag (Right Zipper) Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_SsFoxbXWBBBH9

I recommend [this sleeping pad] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007RFG0NM/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

It's pretty light, packs down to smaller than a Nalgene, and is super comfy. All that and it's pretty cheap for what it is!

I've started bikepacking / hiking and camping more. I'm looking to get a good pack that will be enough for a couple of days to a week. I'm definitely on a budget, and if at all possible, I'm looking for recommendations for something I can either secure to my bicycle or wear in to camp / backpack.

I'm looking at this (4.4lbs) teton.

I don't really know what I'm doing, just what I want to do. I appreciate any help you all can offer!

The Complete Walker -- general knowledge
Trail Life -- good for getting into ultralight backpacking mindset
Mountaineering: Freedom of the Hills -- advanced techniques, mostly for climbing and snow

Trail Life is better used to get into the ultralight backpacking mindset, not to use as an exact recipe. Fresher ultralight books include:
Ultralight Backpacking' Tips
The Ultimate Hiker's Gear Guide -- not as useful if you've been doing ultralight for a while, but might be great for beginners

And by bugs, here's what you'll want:

Head net and a large-brimmed hat. This keeps them out of your face. You'll look a bit dorky, but it's well worth it for the lack of swatting.

Permetherin. You treat all your fabric with it. Pants, shirt, socks, tent, errything. It'll keep the ticks away too (which are super bad this year). Keep away from pets when applying, but it's pet-safe when dry.

Deet. Because hands/arms are still very annoying targets for skeeters. 2oz size because every ounce counts.

So, with the head net, hat, and deet on you, you've added ~5oz of weight, and probably $30 (because hats are expensive). The permetherin doesn't need to be carried with you (it's apply-before-hand stuff, good for a couple weeks).

But again, a bug-free trip when everyone else is swatting skeeters and flicking ticks every 20 feet is well worth the size/weight/cost.

-I would start with finding a lighter tent first. If you don’t have the cash for new check craigslist or eBay.
-10 lbs of clothes also seems excessive (think layers and the only items I would ever consider varying more than one would be socks/underwear)
-Im not sure what your plans on food are but freeze dried/dehydrated meals and a lightweight stove would be my recommendation. One of these (https://www.amazon.com/MSR-11792-PocketRocket-Stove/dp/B000A8C5QE) and a lightweight pot to boil in would save you a lot weight.
-Your sleeping bag is also pretty heavy and depending on what the temperatures are you can find lightweight down bags that aren’t very expensive as long as the temperature won’t be under 30 degrees.
-You may want to consider a water filter if you’re backpacking in an area that has water readily available.

This product comes up a lot, and almost every time someone says the sawer squeeze is better. I have the mini sawer, and it works great, screws into water bottles and 2-liters, can backflush to keep it clean, has a super small pore size, is lightweight. I've never used a life straw though, so maybe I'm missing something.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005EHPVQW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480094674&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=sawyer+squeeze&dpPl=1&dpID=51SJ5lM%2BhyL&ref=plSrch

I just got done with about a month worth of research on backpacks. While I ended up getting a nicer aether 70, this Teton pack was constantly appearing in my searches. From all reports, it is hands down the best pack in the lower price ranges. It even appeared multiple times on top gear ranking lists next to the more well known deuter, osprey, type bags.

Check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Scout3400-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00AE31RJQ

If your budget gets a little tight, here are a few suggestions to save a few bucks (yes, I'm a member of /r/frugal, here are a few tips:

• Buy a used backpack off eBay or Craigslist. Backpacking is a hobby that a lot of people think they want to get into, they buy an expensive pack, and it sits in their closet for 4 years. They use it once. Then they sell it -- this is how I have purchased both my backpacks. Here is an ad in your general area for a Gregory 80 L pack, lightly used. Retails for high $300's, you can get it for $120 or less.
  
• Don't buy specialized camping clothes. The only exception to this is socks (get wool ones, I like Darn Tough), and maybe underwear. I wear light gym shorts, an Under Armor shirt, a baseball hat with bandanna, and some crosstraining shoes/trail runners. Unless you have bad ankles, you are probably fine without the expensive hiking shoes. Do make sure you have solid raingear.
  
• For your first stove, go simple. This is a great starter.. The MSR Pocket Rocket is a little flashier but not a bad option either.
  
• Take a look at sierratradingpost.com, they occasionally have some very nice deals on there.

My buddy and I bought the Nesco FD-75PR 700-watt specifically for dehydrating meals for backpacking. We are currently prepping for 6 days on the Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore. Anyways, definitely get a dehydrator and definitely experiment with seasoning because it will be a lot different than you are use to. From our first chili experiment with the dehydrator we found it was best to season when reconstituting the chili. Someone told me that most spices are fat soluble (could be completely wrong on this) so while we are reconstituting the chili we threw a pad of butter in. Get a dehydrator, you will love it and soon start dehydrating everything. If you go to the link posted above look into the freezerbag cooking. I have not used it but it seems nifty.

My wife and I did 75 days throughout SEA with an older model of this backpack from REI. 40L was more than enough space for us and I'm definitely glad I didn't go with the 80L+ models that many other travelers were carrying.

Also, we bought daypacks that could be folded into itself in a pouch. I'll try and look up the model we bought...



Edit: This is the daypack we bought. Super lightweight and collapses into a small pouch. http://amzn.com/B00CEZ4ZJ6

Not sure what you are asking, but the quality/durability issues with the No Limits brand seem chronic. My buddy wanted a really cheap pack to get into backpacking and settled on the Teton Scout 3400 (55L). It's a decent quality pack with plenty of features for a beginner. Currently available on amazon for $65: http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Scout-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00AE31RJQ

They also make a larger (65L) pack: http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer-Internal-Backpack/dp/B002XF8106/ref=pd_sim_468_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41i6Oh9FSNL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR162%2C320_&refRID=1N8YEFCF077RTS8AHSZ7

Be careful about getting into huges packs (anything over 65L is a big pack). It's hard not to fill out all the space in your pack, so the larger your pack, the more you will bring. I understand you are new to the sport and may not have "ultralight" gear, but just be aware that the amount of weight on your back will have a huge impact on your enjoyment, especially as a beginner.

Osprey Port 46l Supposed to be qualified for carry on on all airlines. If you dont fill it the straps and the way the outside curves around allows you to collapse it down really well. Love the bag :)

https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Porter-Travel-Backpack-46-Liter/dp/B00IMXQ8Z8/

We're doing Pictured Rocks next week, it will be our second time up there. It really is an awesome hike. You could do this over 7 days but probably more do-able in 5. However, I made a call today to the NPS for a trail/bug update. He said the mosquitoes are terrible in the UP this year, the worst they've seen in a long time. He also said the stables flies are starting to come out and ticks are typical.

We're going to try permethrin this year on our clothes to help with the stable flies. Last year we had one day they were so bad we almost hiked out.

I've heard Porcupine Mountains are a great option as well.

If I had to choose, I would go with the North Face. This is mainly because of the hip belt. Your shoulders can get sore very quickly, even with what would be thought of as minimal weight. Not only will the hip belt take some stress off of your shoulders, it will allow for quick access to desired items. Personally, I would check out what Osprey has to offer. The Manta may not be advertised for Backpacking through Europe but I could see this being a sweet setup, especially with a Sawyer in line water filter. Plus they have lifetime warranties and make amazing gear. Any osprey pack will last beyond your Euro trip. Check out a few that I think could work you for you.

(http://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Manta-Hydration-Radiant-Medium/dp/B008RB2CR8/ref=sr_1_13?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1410217496&sr=1-13&keywords=osprey)(check the video)

(http://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Packs-Talon-Backpack-Medium/dp/B00E0LGIOM/ref=sr_1_2?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1410217496&sr=1-2&keywords=osprey)

(http://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Stratos-Backpack-Anthracite-Medium/dp/B00E0EUYDA/ref=sr_1_28?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1410217496&sr=1-28&keywords=osprey)

(http://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Porter-Travel-Duffel-46-Liter/dp/B00IMXQ8Z8/ref=sr_1_15?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1410217496&sr=1-15&keywords=osprey)

http://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Porter-Travel-Duffel-46-Liter/dp/B00IMXQ8Z8

I've had an Osprey Porter 46L for almost 3 years and it's served me quite well in essentially the same role. It's been with me through Europe and quite a bit of Asia and has held up great. It is made with similar specs, maximum legal US carry-on size. I've carried it on many Chinese airlines and other international flights. Only time I had a problem was on a flight from Madrid to Dublin (slightly too big, agreed to gate-check it but just ignored the staff at the gate and carried it on).

Most times if it's on your back the staff won't care or even think about it being too big, especially on a Chinese airline. The "foreigner card" will get you far in Asia--stuff like having an oversized carry-on gets ignored because the locals are too timid or embarrassed to engage or confront foreigners.

The Porter has straps for compressing the size and it's really sturdy. Highly recommended.

Edit: Just read your posts denouncing Osprey. It's true the straps go right across the front pouch. I've just stopped using the pouch all together! :-D I have an older model of the backpack and the front pouch isn't as fancy as in the new model.

I like getting the small things as gifts. Things I misplace or might not grab myself.

Gerber Dime Multi-Tool, Black [30-000469] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006M9NIDO/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_pvcBxb58D4MMB

Aimkon iTP A3 EOS Max 130 Lumen LED Flashlight Cool White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BM5GQ2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_-vcBxb144A2CF

Frogg Toggs The Original Chilly Pad Cooling Towel, Ice White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKCUSMQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_DwcBxb22YD8AD

Leegoal Ultralight Backpacking Canister Camp Stove with Piezo Ignition 3.9oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004U8CP88/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_pxcBxbQZ4XD4G

NEW Bottle Clip Strap With Compass Camping Hiking Carabiner Water Holder https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L3YOLDO/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_pycBxbYD4T2JS

BINGONE Nylon 4-in-1 Drawstring Bags / Ditty Bag / Cord Bag Home Storage Travel Use 4 Different Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VM4HR6S/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_dzcBxbMF0HKZ8

WindFire® Mini Zoomable 3 Modes UV-Ultraviolet Led Blacklight Flashlight AA/14500 Rechargeable Battery Zoom UV Ultraviolet Blacklight Flashlight Torch with Features Money Detector, Leak detector and Cat-Dog-Pet Urine Detector (Battery not included) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S4CFB4G/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_KzcBxbEKNHQTQ

iPerb® Aluminum Alloy Tri-cone Shaped Tent Stakes Pegs 15g Each-Pack of 14 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LD2TIUM/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_pAcBxbKVMRABT

Bluecell 16Pcs Red Color Aluminum Guyline Cord Adjuster for Tent Camping Hiking Backpacking Picnic Shelter Shade Canopy Outdoor Activity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LLUDFMI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_NAcBxb0GS1V7V

Nite Ize Reflective Nylon Cord, Woven for High Strength, 50 Feet, Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MMEHTC/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_9AcBxbDAJPW6D

Nite Ize KRG-03-11 S-Biner Key Ring, Stainless https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004MMEHWE/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_NEcBxb41K6YTE

Stove, light, knife, cord, stakes, tensioners, blacklight for scorpion spotting for fun, water bottle clip, kee cool wet towel, ditty bags, micro s-biners. For mostly under 10 bucks, few under 20.

Pick some. That flashlight rocks my socks, but I have all of these things.

+1 on the sawyer mini. It works like a champ.

I use the MSR Pocket Rocket. I've had it for several years and it can take one hell of a beating. If the temperature gets around freezing you'll have to sleep with the fuel can to keep it warm, though.

I personally use Mountain House- just tastes the best to me. An easy alternative is to walk down the ethnic food isle at your grocery store and look for boil-and-pour simple meals (rice/pasta dishes particularly). Instant mashed potatoes are good too. The tradeoff is for the non-backpacking meals you usually have to use a dish to make the food, which is something you'll have to clean up and hang with the rest of your kitchen supplies.

I bought this one: Lightweight Large Burner Classic Camping and Backpacking Stove. For iso-Butane/Propane Canisters https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YLU6O6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_ZVzsub0E00KC9

I cooked breakfast on it for 2 people for three mornings and barely used half my can of fuel. Folds up small and its pretty well built, especially for the price.

Read The Complete Walker as a comprehensive guide. The guy who wrote it preferred solo backpacking, and he makes a very convincing case for it in the foreword. It's my favourite book on backpacking, camping, and hiking.

Edit: Also try asking this question in r/campingandhiking

Looks like an upgraded version of a Jetboil. Nice, I guess if you didn't already have a stove/container system. For 6 bucks you could get a Pocket rocket knock-off. That and a piece of aluminum foil for a wind screen, and while not as efficient, it would get the job done a LOT cheaper.

I agree. I use the [cheap Chinese knockoff] (https://www.amazon.com/Lightweight-Classic-Backpacking-iso-Butane-Canisters/dp/B004YLU6O6/ref=sr_1_37?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1480608966&sr=1-37&keywords=backpacking+stove)
and then carry one of the Chinese pocket rocket clones, not this exact one just for boiling water (the thing only weighs 4oz. so to me it is worth bringing both since it is way faster for water only i.e. breakfast)

Cheap, strong, big enough.

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Explorer4000-Internal-Backpack/dp/B002XF8106

Well that can be a long list... here goes though:

Water

Dehydrated food

Cooking utensils (I just bring a small pot/cup and a spork personally)

Stove

Sleeping bag

Tent (two pound, two person from Big 5)

550 paracord

2 tarps

Katadyn base camp filter

Sunshade for camping pad

Multi-tool

Compass

Map

Lighter & matches

Water purifying tablets

I'm sure I'm leaving a few things off, but those are several of the basics

I have a nesco 700 watt which is really nice as it has a thermostat on it which some of the cheaper ones don't-- I love dehydrating stuff--

http://www.amazon.com/Nesco-FD-75PR-700-Watt-Food-Dehydrator/dp/B000FFVJ3C

I have just heard about and am now looking into purchasing this. collapses down really nicely for travel.

I used to use the Teton Scout pack. Very durable. I mean this thing can take a beating. It's a little on the smaller side, so not a good fit for someone on the tall side (I'm 5'8", there are 3 or 4 more slots left for the strap adjustments). It's also a fairly roomy bag, I've never filled it completely. That said, it's a bit heavy (4.5 lbs) and I'm always trying to go lighter.

I'm in the process of making my own variant of the Moonbow Gearskin.... Basically a modern twist to the old beaver tail packs. I'll be using my sleeping pad for the support, with all my gear packed into it. Tests so far are looking promising, and I've only invested $45 in materials.

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Scout3400-Internal-Backpack/dp/B00AE31RJQ

http://www.moonbowgear.com/1trailgear/1Custom%20packs/Gearskins/gearskin.html

7 bucks -- I know a few people that grabbed this and it works fine

Those are not designed to purify water.

You want these guys: http://www.amazon.com/Potable-Aqua-Water-Purification-Tablets/dp/B0009I3T3S/

Or these: http://www.amazon.com/McNett-Aquamira-Water-Treatment-Drops/dp/B00CHRFQPI

filter? check out the Sawyer Mini: http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP128-Filtration-System/dp/B00FA2RLX2

if you're in a pinch, do a little homework with using ordinary bleach ... or prepare to boil

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Anker PowerCore!

Anker PowerCore 20100 - Ultra High Capacity Power Bank with 4.8A Output, PowerIQ Technology for iPhone, iPad and Samsung Galaxy and More (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X5RV14Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_p2jozbERK5T1Q

I'd personally recommend this stove honestly. It comes it really handy and is quick to light.

I used a penny stove for awhile, and the damned thing is a bitch to light in the cold, you know, exactly when you'd want it the most.