Reddit reviews ELECOM M-HT1DRBK Wireless Trackball Mouse - Extra Large Ergonomic Design, 8-Button Function with Smooth Tracking, Black
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Cutting-Edge Responsiveness – Each advanced computer trackball mouse features a highly-accurate optical sensor to give you fast, precise tracking and movementLarger Design, Ergonomic Comfort – This new wireless trackball mouse is bigger than its predecessor to give users a bigger palm rest and grip comfort stability. Supported OS- Windows 10, Windows RT8.1, Windows 8.1, Windows 7, Windows XP, macOS Sierra(10.12) .Update to latest version of each OS and installation of service pack may be necessary8 Bendable Mouse Keys – The M-HT1DRBK work and gaming mouse features 8 thumb and finger buttons designed to support MMO and real-time strategy gamingMultiple DPI Resolutions – Experience fast-twitch responsiveness and smoother pathing by choosing between 500/1000/1500 DPI with our 3-level DPI switchTilt Wheel Design – The synthetic ruby support bearings on the trackball and 8-button mouse buttons are further expanded by a left/right scrolling with tilt wheel
Oh woops, I remembered it badly, it's 500/1000/1500
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELECOM-Wireless-trackball-function-M-HT1DRBK-Black/dp/B0735584RM
Looks like an Elecom M-HT1DRBK.
Don't listen to him, this is nonsense even if his anecdote is true. Many in /r/trackballs will tell you how much the right trackball can ease RSI symptoms and this is because with a trackball you can maintain a neutral wrist position, and this is a lot harder with a mouse because as the mouse moves your wrist angle must change. I found that finger controlled trackballs with thumb click buttons work best for me.
The holy grail is the Microsoft Trackball Explorer, but it is discontinued and expensive to acquire on ebay. There is a spiritual successor that was just released called the Elecom Huge. The sensor and button switches are superior in the Elecom, but I find it to be slightly less comfortable.
I find the trackball harder to use for FPS and will use a mouse for some FPS games, but for strategy games it's perfectly fine.
Last point, I find that ergonomic split keyboards really helped with my RSI since you will type with your mousing hand as well.
This is definitely NOT small, but I use mine on a chair arm for War Thunder and I can't recommend it enough.
ELECOM M-HT1DRBK Wireless Trackball Mouse - Extra Large Ergonomic Design, 8-Button Function with Smooth Tracking, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0735584RM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Z7xIDbBPA28QJ
It's like having a side-stick controller in a mouse-aim game. I got this one mostly because of the number of buttons. I have directional control, fire guns, throttle +/-, target lock, zoom view, target padlock view, flaps up, flaps down, full elevator displacement, and enemy view padlock all bound on this one device.
Elecom also makes some smaller track balls. If they're as good as the Huge, it'd be well worth getting one of those to mount next to your stick.
This is my favorite - Huge and around $60 for the wired version is a great price. The CST I have in the picture is a solid trackball, but I feel it's over priced and not as comfortable as the Huge. But you can't put a billiard ball in the huge, so if customization is what you want then the CST is a good option.
nk it's the wired version of this: https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-M-HT1DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-Mouse/dp/B0735584RM/
this with the two right most button remapped then scroll with the side of your index finger?
This one
Ive owned a lot of trackballs and this one is by far my favorite modern offering.
The closest to an actual replacement are the ELECOM trackballs. The ball is slightly bigger which still allows the two finger operation. It has a scroll wheel as well as finger buttons (more ergonomically placed than the MS Trackball Explorer IMO.) Adjustable DPI, rubberized palm rest. As well as two function keys, Fn1, Fn2.
Wireless version: https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-M-HT1DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-Mouse/dp/B0735584RM
Wired version: https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-M-HT1DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-Mouse/dp/B07353DBP9
Whether it has the durability of the MS Trackball Explorer - unknown. My two MS Trackball Explorers are still working from early 2001 (bearing replacement.) This is the best option available beyond 3d printing your own replacement parts...
I really like my Kensington Expert - it feels very well made, aside from the scroll wheel/ring (it is as crummy as they say. It's usable, but feels very inconsistent).
I believe the consensus generally favors the CST Laser that was recently on MD, though I have heard some say that they liked the Kensington better. I just saw a new one today for the first time, and am interested in how it does over time (sounds like the software is a weakness, and I use Linux, so we'll have to see):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0735584RM/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1D0AHRBU67CPA&colid=1HLUKKQ9HQI6Q
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0735584RM/ref=pe_492632_159100282_TE_item
It'll convert to USD on the final confirmation page.
Closest I have found is the Logitech G502, but that's wired, doesn't have as many buttons, and costs twice as much. Trackballs are a little easier. A direct (and awesome) trackball equivalent for this mouse would easily be the Elecom Huge.
Thank you for your very thorough response, BlahmanTT! This really helped a lot and I think I will purchase the Elecom Huge on Amazon later today to give it a try. I should note I also use Linux, so the re-mapping you mention definitely caught my attention - don't suppose you have details to help me avoid headaches with this later? With that said though, I am still trying to visualize how exactly you re-mapped the EM's buttons. It sounds like you did experience some "stretching" issues to be able to use the LMB and RMB, hence re-bindings. I play games where I use the LMB and RMB a lot quickly back-to-back, so any more clarity you can offer around this topic, would really help me. Like, are you operating LMB --and-- RMB with your thumb? I should note, with the trackman marble mouse I use, I'm using thumb for LMB, ring-finger for RMB, and my index+middle fingers to move the trackball, so I'm already a two-finger ball operator (although, I frequently lift either my index finger or middle finger completely off the ball for certain movements. And, for non-gaming [or gaming with no RMB needs], I use my index-through-ring fingers to operate the ball.).
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I included links to both products in question, to aide discussion for visualizing. I see the buttons on the Elecom Huge are actually labelled on Amazon, so perhaps you specify which you've bound to what function, to make the mouse ergonomic for you? And if, had you left the default button bindings alone, if you felt it still would have been ergonomic/enjoyable to use?
No, that’s the Elecom EX-G Pro! I’m selling the HUGE (model number HT1DRBK) and it’s a finger operated ball, not a thumb ball.
https://www.amazon.de/ELECOM-M-HT1DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-Mouse/dp/B0735584RM/
>Elecom Huge
https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-M-HT1DRBK-Wireless-Trackball-Mouse/dp/B0735584RM
Here is Elecom's WIRELESS version, M-HT1DRBK, for sale on Japanese Amazon. . . It's on sale for 49% off at ¥ 7,834 or $68.46 USD. Pretty reasonable really.
Still want a thumb ball version though. : (
If you're going to be keeping the setup in one place for most of the time then I'd recommend checking out this mouse. It's huge though, so I wouldn't recommend it if you're going to be up and moving your setup around a lot. It's more a a mouse that sits on your desk and never leaves.
Elecom trackball. I got the huge wired version and it's the best mouse/trackball I've ever used.
It's very personal, which doesn't give you an easy answer unfortunately.
I supply my own mice at work too, I use one of these - elecom huge finger trackball which I had to import from Japan, but that's because I find trackballs far more comfortable than normal mice and no-one seems to sell ergonomic trackballs in the UK.
I have problems with strain in my hands, I have tried dozens of mice and spent a few hundred quid over the years on different mice. I have friends in similar positions who've done the same and ended up with completely different mice though so it's very personal (though worth noting all of us who have problems with strain/RSI/pain in our hands have settled on either vertical mice or trackballs. We're also super fun at parties).
Something else I do is map the key in the top left of the keyboard (above tab) to be a left click (using autohotkey), then for tasks that involve lots of clicking I can use my left hand to click instead which reduces the strain on my right. I would type the characters instead of describing the key but I can't because some idiot turned it into a left click instead. I'm not sure I've ever needed those characters before this moment.
If you're getting ache in your hands it's worth addressing, mice can make a big difference while ignoring the problem can lead to that hand ache getting worse and starting to affect your quality of life.