Reddit reviews TGL 3 inch, 8 Foot Tree Saver, Winch Strap, Tow Strap 30,000 Pound Capacity

I wouldn't consider it cheap. On Amazon, this is $13.22. Also on Amazon, you can get a 10,000 lb capacity tow strap for $12.99. For 27 cents more than the bottle cutter, you can get a 50,000 lb capacity tow strap for $13.49

Normally trail riders want easy access to these tow points. Yes, they absolutely can be used, but standard OEM mounts are a hassle.

Generally if they aren't easy to see and get to on the trail without climbing under a rig, the average cable puller will not consider them tow points, and some trail leaders might not let you go on a trail without purpose installed after market hooks. Usually vehicles only have one front and rear tow point and you need two front and two rear for safety and convenience. Hooks are considered basic off road items.

However, all this depends on how you plan to use it off road. Are you wanting to trail it, or camp, light excursions?

They are cheap and easy to install and can be tucked under the bumper if you like. Just bolt them to the frame, don't weld them there. Welds will generally fail before bolts because lets face it, you will be "snatched" more than pulled if you are stuck and not high-centered.

Get at least one (or two) good tow rope(s) and attach it before you go out and just toss the free end in your window, or on your roof. This way when you get stuck, you can climb out and just toss the rope to the rig in front of you and your are out in a jiffy. This will really go a long way to good karma on a trail if you aren't asking others to come get you, or slowing down the others because you unhook after every pull. You will end up using your rope 4x more than a winch anyway unless you are alone on a trail.

Any wheeling will be horrible on gas milage, but if you want to be tidy and keep your rig looking clean, I have seen more than a few people use hitch-mounted winch mounts with handles and only have the winch there when wheeling. And you can toss it in the back and lock it up when your not using it as a daily driver.

Installing a tow hitch in the front and rear to move a winch from front to back as you need is not perfect, but it is very acceptable when done safely, so you get two-for-one winching. Make sure you take good measurements, or have one custom made, or even just go to your local 4x4 shop and get them to help you with the measurements. Never significantly cut/alter an OEM hitch for obvious reasons.

A secondary benefit to a tow hitch on both ends is you can use it as a tow point instead/in addition to tow points and move this around as needed also.

As far as a winch, you don't need a 18k monster, but enough to tug yourself out. General rules are 2-3x your vehicles weight. On a trail, most often if you are in a caravan, a good trail leader will put you sandwiched between two experienced trailers, so about 1/2 the time you will just pull rope to the rig in front and use it as your anchor. So weight shouldn't be a big issue.

Also get a snatch block and a tree saver so you can pull yourself out if you need to. This way you don't harm the tree, but still use it to get yourself out.

1. tires
   
2. tow points (however you want) and ropes
   
3. winch
   
4. lift?
   
   But first, tires.
   
   Ask anyone that has been on a trail, MT tires (not AT's) should be your first investment. You can get a really good MT that will last a very long time as daily use if you do not get an overly aggressive tread. And they look badass.

I have this one. Its been used a ton and is still holding up very well. I think I paid 10-12 bucks for it.

Hmm, i'm confused how you're picturing the setup I def can see using rope but not sure the best way to do it. I don't mind spending money to have quality stuff either(esp when falling = not fun, though I'll prob make the one thing I move day to day a nice pad under me)

Edit: found these too meant to ask about them: Metal Cam Straps w/ 1 inch Flat Nylon
[Choose Your 1" FNW Color:Navy Blue][Pick Your Length:50ft.][Choose Your Metal Cam Buckle Type:Black Oxide Moto Cam Buckle][Add a Buckle Pad:No Buckle Pad] Can't link to the options I picked so included that.

So that and these: https://www.amazon.com/Saver-Winch-Strap-Pound-Capacity/dp/B00Z8R7T3Q

So where would you say rope would be better, replace both of those? and just put the rings on the rope and use knots instead of metal cam?