Reddit reviews Intel 660p M.2 2280 2TB NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEKNW020T8X1

This will be cheaper and twice as fast (depending on your USB3 ports) in a smaller package:

https://www.newegg.ca/p/0VN-0003-001D4

https://www.amazon.ca/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC

Amazon and TigerDirect both have this price, as well. Perhaps there has been a price drop altogether.

You can get one for $185:

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC

Make sure you're comfortable with the write endurance (i.e. actually calculate against your workloads) before buying. Many homelab applications don't have heavy write requirements, and just need fast reads. So that's fine. But the cost differential for MLC is minor, and it gives you greater utilization of capacity. If you're stuck in the SATA market segment then the bus is the main constraint, so it's a commodity market, and MLC stuff with similar burst performance, better sustained perf, and better write endurance; is actually around for similar money.

The drop-off in perf of QLC during extended data transfer can be a killer. It can drop to being slower than an HDD in some scenarios. This is going to hurt, for example, in a DR situation, or when shifting VMs around. Rule of thumb is, if the drive hasn't been used recently: It will write a quarter of available free space available at full speed, then it will slow the write to HDD-like speeds. (Although read speeds will always be fast)

An interesting point is that overprovisioning capacity can be a nice way to guard those same issues. Having a huge drive lets the controllers spread the load nicely, and also extends boost performance. If well managed, it's sometimes nice to spend on the largest drives within economic reason, even if the drive has less technical endurance in the cells. If you can afford to have plenty of free space for the controllers to play with, it can often perform nicely. There is a bus constraint in doing this, but NVMe (u.2 or m.2) largely fixes that issue. Large drives provide a lot more benefits than standard RAID, including less parts to go wrong, less redundant controllers, better quality, less power draw, and less config. An SSD controller is effectively a really advanced hardware RAID 0 array already... Double it up, and you've often got the most effective use of flash possible.

It's also possible to isolate heavy workloads (e.g. DBs) to their own little SLC/MLC/Optane RAIDs, or just bump up the RAM and keep it in memory... so if you get smart about managing wear, you can easily balance things. When doing this, just keep DR in mind.

It's worth reading a few different reviews of different types of SSDs fully, and truly appreciating what the technology is doing. It's not the same thing as a spinning platter, and so it's worth knowing what the design considerations are for your storage system.

FWIW, and this is slightly unrelated... I think the Intel 660p (2TB max) is much better than the QVO for the intended target market of the product.

Looks good - how about this Intel as well?

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=SSDPEKNW020T8X1&qid=1563301926&s=electronics&sr=1-1

Amazon.ca has this for $249.99 regular price with free shipping:

https://www.amazon.ca/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC

I am looking to get the gen 2 first chance it goes on sale. Does anyone know what the available slots are on it?

Lenovo.com lists 32Gb ram and 1Tb SSD as max but I assume that is just what they can deliver

but I would like to have (2x32Gb ram and 2x2Tb 660p m.2 nvme SSD)

ram: 2x150$

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2666MHz-Memory-Computers-M471A4G43MB1/dp/B07N124XDS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=32gb+sodimm+laptop+ram+ddr4&qid=1557450017&s=gateway&sr=8-3#customerReviews

ssd 660p 2x200$

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GCLLKDC/ref=twister_B07LHHZRG4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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This looks like I would get a powerful machine for a very reasonable price. From reading online, it looks like the upgrades would fit in a gen 1, any idea if it would work in a gen 2 too?

Hmm. Looks like Amazon price matched NewEgg. I looked at Amazon before I posted the deal and it wasn't $249.99. CCC still has it listed at $259.99.

https://ca.camelcamelcamel.com/Intel-Internal-Solid-State-SSDPEKNW020T8X1/product/B07GCLLKDC

Either way, good option for those who prefer Amazon. Thanks for letting us know.

We're inching closer to that for NVME drives albeit really slowly. The 2TB version of this Intel 660p is at $199.99 at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=2tb+nvme&qid=1557625356&s=gateway&sr=8-3

And this was considering just last week when I had this on my cart, it was at $205.99.

Here's a2 TB M.2 SSD for 184.99 that I bought

It's this one https://camelcamelcamel.com/Intel-Internal-Solid-State-SSDPEKNW020T8X1/product/B07GCLLKDC, they occasionally drop in price. It's $184 for the 2TB on Amazon right now.

+1 to what /u/NotAFurry stated.

I have the 2070 max-q version with liquid metal (ordered way back in early September) and I love it. I also purchased an additional NVMe drive on my own, and it was cake to install.

Well in that case, here is a link to the 2TB Intel 660p. I prefer the 660p at higher capacities because the NAND/flash is denser and you need a certain amount of dies to saturate the controller (even a four-channel one like the SM2263). The SM2263 is very similar to the SM2262/EN actually, just with half the channels, but it performs very similarly for normal workloads. The 660p only has 256MB of DRAM cache for all capacities (rather than the normal 1GB:1TB ratio) while the Crucial P1 - which shares the same hardware - would have 2GB at 2TB (although it's hard if not impossible to find the 2TB SKU). I've covered this previously but basically this is not a huge concern for that type of drive. The 2TB 660p will always have at least 24GB of SLC cache regardless of used capacity but doesn't do well with sustained writes at speed outside of this cache. Keep in mind that if you do stripe these, your effective cache will be doubled.

Here is also a link to the 1TB Sabrent Rocket which is often on sale and is one of the most popular E12 drives. Be sure to check Sabrent's site for software (formatting utility for 4Kn or 512e, as needed) and if you buy it, register for the five-year warranty. Firmware should already be updated for it, but I have a post somewhere with the newest firmware revision that applies to all E12 drives. Cooling may be a concern with sustained writes - this is a different topic I've also covered in detail with many posts. To be brief, it can be ideal to cool the controller but for consumer usage you're fine with worrying about aesthetics. As such, the Ace with its included M.2 heat shields is sufficient.

There are a few differences between the Ace and the Master. I ended up choosing the Master. For fast storage purposes, though, they are comparable.

Looks good, but have you considered getting the Intel 660p instead of the MX500? You do have an open M2 slot that you could use for it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QTQG3C/intel-660p-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw020t801
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC

I do remember seeing something about this on Linus' channel -- this is the one good Eluktronics laptop!

In my opinion, then, the best move would be the MAG-15 with a GTX 1660 Ti.

The GTX 1660 Ti option is $300 cheaper and only 8% slower than the RTX 2070 Max-Q. Unless you really need real-time ray-tracing in particular (which you probably don't), the RTX 2070 Max-Q is a giant waste of money on this system that will bring battery life down and thermals up while costing $300 extra.

I would then encourage you to spend that extra money on a $200 2TB Intel 660p SSD instead of paying $600 for them to install this exact same SSD for you stock... what?

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$1500-$1700 for an i7-9750H, GTX 1660 Ti, big NVMe SSD laptop with this kind of battery and thermals is an awesome deal

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edit: and definitely pay the $35 for Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut; it's possible to get a really top-notch system with the right config on this MAG-15.

Soooo by your reasoning am I okay...I bought the 2TB (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GCLLKDC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1) for my PC gaming needs and it's where I store & run ALL of my games from. Is this fine? I have the 1TB (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J2Q4SWZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) as my OS drive as well. (have 2 M.2 slots on the Mobo)
By my understanding, I'm fine with running this right? Or will using it for gaming wear it out faster?

Thanks for the heads up!

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007R21JWC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Motherboard

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GCLLKDC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

SSD

No issues in my desktop for at least a month and was using this drive between desktop and Macbook without issues

Enclosure: Sabrent USB 3.1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K4TZQ7D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

drive: Intel 2tb nvme.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GCLLKDC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

i bought a 512gb ssd for like $105(converted the currency). Prices went really low nowadays, they are not as expensive as they used to be. You can do it!

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Edit: found this. 2tb ssd for $220. Its on sale. Fucking 1800m/s speed. I'm wet right now

If all you are doing is gaming, I'd say just get the Intel 660p 2TB.

Why a 1TB and a 512 GB SSD? For $40 more you could get a 2TB SSD and then wouldn't have to put content on two different drives (plus have an extra 512 GB of space)

Also, check /r/buildapcsales for deals on the 5700. I've seen some for almost $100 cheaper than that one.

I want to buy a 2TB M.2 SSD for my upcoming build and had an idea:

If I take the hard drive to a friend, we plug it in his PC and set it up properly (installing Windows, downloading some games, etc.), would I be able to just plug it into my build and it'd run? All answers appreciated :)

SSD: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/7MQG3C/intel-660p-series-2tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw020t8x1 or on [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=Intel+SSD+660P+Series+2TB&qid=1574192215&s=pc&sr=1-1)

Full build: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/qtNPV7

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BDLf7T

You're buying a case with a built in power supply, why purchase another?

A two PC setup is always ideal for streaming. IMO just go with the 3700x (assuming you're doing 1440p 144hz with the 5700xt), downgrade to 16gb ram, and get some cheaper SSDs. There's no way you should be paying almost $450 for those drives when you can get a 2tb Intel 660p for half the cost, or 2x 1tb EX920s for the same price. Then buy a capture card, toss it in your old PC, and enjoy a sweet 2 PC stream setup.

There, I saved you over $500 and got you better gaming/streaming performance.

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If you have 2 m.2 slots you could add a Intel 660P 2TB for game installs, and keep the samsung drive just the OS.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC

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Also RAM is so cheap right now, I think it is worth it to get 32GB instead.

I would probably split for an Intel 660p, not as fast as a Samsung 970 of any kind, but not an entry level NVMe either. Plus it's going for pretty darn cheap ATM. $270~ for 2TB w/ 400 TBW is not bad XD!
Intel SSD 660p Series (2.0TB M.2 80mm PCIe 3.0 x 4 3D2 QLC) 2 2283" (978351) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GCLLKDC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Bj7DCb3DRCYXH

Sure you could go for that ridiculous combination of ssds but about this https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC

Also while you are it get a 9900k or an evga black 2080 ti.

660p is $200 with free Prime shipping.

Look at the intel 660p instead, It's cheaper and faster by like 5 times (I get 1900mb/s read/write on mine) you can find it here:


https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-2-0TB-80mm-978351/dp/B07GCLLKDC

I might suggest dropping the dual storage solution and just getting the Intel 660p 2TB model for about the same price. It's not a top-of-the-line NVME drive and won't be the fastest if you're constantly moving huge files, but when everything including games are installed on an SSD (any SSD really), your system will feel a lot faster. Mechanical HDD's are probably the biggest bottleneck component these days.

Also, as for the keyboard, you might try checking mechanicalkeyboards.com and getting one from a brand like Ducky or Leopold. The Ducky One 2 for example, is only 99 dollars and excellent quality for non-custom board. They're more boutique brands with better build quality than Corsair for around the same price. You might enjoy the board more over time.

Lastly, you could save some money by getting an X470 or b450 motherboard. X570 really only offers an advantage in PCIE 4.0, which only a few (very pricey) SSDs currently take advantage of. Easy way to save 100 dollars here.

Даже больше скажу, вот SSD Intel на 2ТБ за 200$

For a monitor I'd get a 1440p, something like this should do you just fine. 1440p 75hz IPS at a good price.

The rest looks pretty good, I'd reccomended doubling your storage and getting this SSD as it's pretty cheap and QLC NAND benefits from extra space. Also 2TB should last you you're college career as long as you clean out your drive every once in a while.

For your Mobo, i'd reccomended an ATX form factor since you're building in an ATX case, you can find more features for the same price since it's larger.

Besides that it looks good! 👌

Get a 2TB NVME from Intel. More storage than the two solid state drives you picked out. Cheaper. Faster. No cables. Available on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-660p-1-0TB-80mm-978350/dp/B07GCLLKDC

There are faster NVME drives out there (at a premium) but nothing that you'll notice for gaming. And any NVME will be faster than a 2.5".

Might as well get an nvme drive rather than the SSD you picked out. Check out this

You’re welcome! If you have a bit more budget. You could take out the MX500 and do a 2 TB NVMe

What reputation do Intel M.2 SSD's have? I'm wondering why this NVMe Intel SSD is so much cheaper than this WD SATA SSD. Shouldn't an NVMe SSD generally be more expensive than a SATA?

Troubles with new m.2 SSD . It's showing up in BIOS and windows 10 device manager, but I don't see it at all in "This PC" when trying to access it. It's like it's not even there.

Any ideas on a fix? Google not helping me much.

I would go with base 13” model with 16gb of RAM and a 128gb.

The money saved could go to

2TB Intel 660p NVMe M.2 SSD

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Internal-Solid-State-SSDPEKNW020T8X1/dp/B07GCLLKDC

Orico NVMe M.2 USB-C enclosure

https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Transparent-Enclosure-Tool-Free-Samsung970/dp/B07QVBZZTR

Razer Core X eGPU

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Core-Thunderbolt-External-Enclosure/dp/B07CQG2K5K

As for GPU recommendation... you may want to wait for macOS Mojave comes out. Hopefully it will include drivers for AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT

You should have never gotten a SAMSUNG ssd. They're... popular. But why, I don't know.

You can get a 2TB NVME intel drive for $100 less than a samsung SATA drive, and that's just... stupid.