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Don't waste your money, make sure you test which keycaps you prefer first! test kit
100% preference. I personally like reds. Buy a cheap sampler and find out which one you like the best :). Here is the sampler I used http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E71W4O8?pc_redir=1398007580&amp;robot_redir=1
I ended up purchasing a Steel series red switch mech keyboard. I love it!
You can't really...you kinda have to just feel the keys and decide which you prefer most...you might try one of these that lets you sample a few different ones relatively cheaply:
edit: this is a bit cheaper than that one, albeit with fewer caps to test: http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8
Most people find mechanicals less fatiguing to type on for long periods of time because you don't have to push the key all the way down to actuate the switch (unlike rubber dome which you have to fully depress.)
Buying guide is always a good place to start and I would definitely take a trip to Fry's/Microcenter if there is one near you to try out switches.
Edit: here's a nice animated guide to the different mechanical switch types and both WASD keyboards & Max Keyboards make a sampler pack if you want to feel them for yourself.
If youre only looking at the normal switches, something like this would solve your problem, but If you also want to test more rare switch-types this is a pretty good option
Have a few different options. :)
Cheaper one with Red/Black/Blue/Brown.
Well first you need to find out which switch is for you, that will change what keyboards we recommend.
To do this, buy one of these (or something similar): http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E71W4O8?pc_redir=1410666457&amp;robot_redir=1
Or go to your local electronics store and pound on some keyboards!
Also read: http://lifehacker.com/how-to-choose-the-best-mechanical-keyboard-and-why-you-511140347
I actually just got this, and I think it seriously does help a lot having these four keys around to test how you like it. I found out that blue one is too noisy and that red and black did not offer any tactile response that I expected of a mechanical keyboard. So I think I like the brown the most, but I am still contemplating between Happy Hacker keyboard and the mechanical keyboard. If anyone else has used two before, let me know the cons and pros!
It looks like one of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E71W4O8?pc_redir=1406028871&amp;robot_redir=1
I would get a switch tester like [this] (http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8), you don't want to make a decision that you regret every time you use your pc
Amazon? You are probably better off trying keyboards at your local Best Buy though. Clicky Razer is the equivalent of Blues, Silent Razer are Browns, and Corsair are Reds. I highly recommend not to buy one of those, but they should give a feel for the different switch types.
CM Storm QFR or Ducky One TKL are the best TKL options with a budget of $100.
Best thing you can do is to try them out for yourself.
you could go to a place where you can test them, OR get a keytester like this one.
I personally went with the brown switches because they are quiet, and could be made even quieter with orings (i didn need them) thats the only thing i considered really because i couldnt find a place to test them out. and i didnt want to spend $10 for a tester.
Blue ones are really noisy, and reds are in between.
Here is a sound test for different switches
At the end i think ANY cherry mx is a good one, definitively it will be an upgrade from a regular one no matter which one you choose.
You can order a switch tester that just has a few keys and switches! Then you can get a general idea of what you'd like. They come with O-rings as well, so you can try those too (they prevent the keys from bottoming out, i.e going all the way down. This reduces both the noise and distance the key will travel when pressed). http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8
That company also has one with 8 keys/switches. Don't forget to read the links in the sidebar to find out what you want too! You can definitely snag one for less than $160, but it depends on what you want.
> Edit: Will a mechanical keyboard provide an actual advantage besides feeling better?
Yes. Because of the increased travel distance and more uniform feel, you will be more confident that your key presses actually registered. Like turning on your shield for example, how many times have you not been sure whether you turned it on or not?
The good ones also have N-key rollover, which means that you can press every key on the keyboard at the same time, and they will all register. I know that sounds like overkill (it is), but it means that there is a 0% chance of key presses not being registered (I can't sprinting and redeploy on my current keyboard).
As for which switch to choose, pick up this:
You have 30 days to return it to Amazon, which should be more than enough time.
You definitely don't need to go mechanical for gaming. I actually don't notice much of a difference in games because I'm not pressing that many keys generally. I definitely prefer how my mech feels while typing though. But that's all it is - preference. Some people don't like mechs. I personally can't go back to rubber domes for personal use.
If you can't try a mech keyboard locally, you can try ordering a switch sampler so you can get an idea of what the keys feel like at least, which may give you a better idea if that's something you'd like or not.
This may be helpful to purchase before you spend a lot of money on a keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1396128414&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cherry+mx+test
Personally, I prefer more resistance than Red or Brown switches will provide. Blues are pretty nice to type on and they definitely work fine for gaming, but be warned before you bring one of those keyboards into an office - people will probably be upset because they can get pretty loud.
There are also a few less common types of switches to consider: Clear switches are essentially Brown switches with extra resistance, and Green switches are like Blues with extra resistance. If you're a pretty violent typist, you might want to consider those.
And then, of course, you have the classic Unicomp keyboards with buckling springs like an old IBM Model M keyboard. If you've used one of those before, you probably remember the feeling - there's nothing quite like it. I'm typing on a Unicomp right now, and it's by far my favorite keyboard to date. This is also very easily the loudest keyboard I've ever owned, and while it's probably not loud enough to get you evicted from an apartment, it's entirely possible that your neighbors will hear it if you have thin walls.
There is no easy way for anyone to recommend this to you, because switches are EXTREMELY preference. For example, the mx blues are regarded as typing switches and usually not preferred for gaming because they are more difficult to double tap the keys. However, I love the blues, and I even enjoy gaming on them. I would recommend either finding a store like a best buy that may have some different ones on display or ordering one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1406166576&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=key+switch+tester
Also, what is your budget, because the three keyboards you have listed are on the average side. They are good if on a budget, but some other companies may be something to look into if your budget allows. Try looking into Ducky, Filco, and Das. They are more pricey, but the build quality is exceptional. There is also the option of the KBT Poker II if you do not mind the 60% form factor. And as always, check the side bar, there is a buyers guide linked over there and /u/ripster55 keeps this shit pretty up to date!
To find the right key
You probably want to try a switch tester first, I originally wanted Browns from the description but in reality they didn't feel good to me so I went with Reds instead. This one has the common Cherry switches.
I think he's talking about this. And here is a smaller/cheaper one.
I was mere seconds from clicking Confirm, but something told me to check the comments here, and I'm glad I did.
I think I want browns too, but I'm not sure. Going by what I've read, Reds would be acceptable, but I would prefer Browns.
I found this thing and ordered it instead!
There are lots of good monitors out there. BenQ makes some nice ones (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014377) or AOC (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160167&amp;cm_re=AOC-_-24-160-167-_-Product).
For the keyboard I would recommend anything with mechanical switches. There are some nice cooler master ones (Quickfire Rapid if you want tenkey-less or Quickfire XT if you want full size). What I would recommend for this is to go to /r/mechanicalkeyboards and make a post there asking for recommendations. You may also want to check out on amazon, this: (http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425488621&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Mechanical+sampler). That way you can try out Mx blacks, reds, blues and browns.
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Try this. Ducky one is definitely the way to go
It's a mechanical key tester. http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1418139200&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=mechanical+key+test
For some (me included), mechanical keyboards are like SSD's. Once you've had one, you'll never go back. There are many different switch types though and it ultimately comes down to personal taste as to which one suits you best. So the best advice I can give you is to try before you buy. If you're unable to try one in store or at a friends house, it might be worth considering a cherry switch sampler such as this.
As for recommending a specific keyboard, I'd suggest heading over to r/mechanicalkeyboards, as there are people there who know much more than me. I can say, however, that I have a Corsair K95 and I'm very pleased with the build quality, feel and aesthetics but (having come from the mighty (in it's day) logitech G11 complete with it's software) I feel that Corsair's software has a lot of room for improvment.
You can buy a test kit that comes with all the switches that come with Cherry MX keyboards to find a preference. Blue and Reds are fairly popular from what I know, but /r/MechanicalKeyboards have more in-depth information about everything you need to know about them.
I'd try and split your money in half- $100-$120 on a mouse (however some of the best mice can be under this budget), and then $130-$150 on the keyboard. For mice you need to know what sort of mouse you prefer to narrow down your choices (Size? Weight? Sensitivity? Macros?). You might want to also check out what pro players of your favourite game genre use. If you're an FPS fan, look up CSGO professionals' mice, MOBA/RTS? Check DOTA2 or LoL. Professional players often use mice that are durable, precise, and extremely comfortable to use during long practice sessions.
But in all seriousness, its the feel. The feel of a mechanical keyboard over a membrane/rubber dome is amazing. The satisfying click, or lack thereof if you so prefer. The tactile bump, or lack thereof if you so prefer. The feel of the key hitting the bottom of the keyboard (AKA bottoming-out) or the lack thereof if you so prefer.
Mechanical keyboards are very customizable in both geneotype and phenotype. You are able to have them feel whatever way you want, depending on the switch-type you buy, and they can be heavy or soft, if you want them that way, again, switch-type.
If you want to try out the most popular key switches, there is This, it also includes O-rings, which prevent the keys from bottoming out, as I mentioned above. However, you will really only notice bottoming-out on MX clears and maybe MX reds if you are keen, but the O-rings add another layer of quality, again, if you so prefer. So, you know how they can be customizable in the genotype perspective. So, what about phenotype?
No matter what mechanical keyboard you get, you can customize the way it looks.
here are some examples that I like.
Honestly, when you get a mechanical keyboard, you will be kicking yourself for not getting one sooner.
Razer's Kailh switches are sort of a knock-off of the Cherry MX switches.
Your common switches that you'll probably find in keyboards under $150 are Red, Blue, Brown, and Black.
This video actually gives you a pretty good idea of the sound, and you can almost tell how they'll feel.
This image shows the technical difference in how they feel.
Since I'm not familiar with the Kaihl switches, this is the best I can do for you: If they were clicky, they were closer to Blues. If they were bumpy, they were closer to Browns. If they were just linear and had no tactile feedback, they were probably close to Reds.
You can even try this to decide on the switch, since you probably don't want to invest so much money on a keyboard you won't completely like. It covers the 4 common switches.
Once you decide which switches you want, you need to decide what size you want. Usually Tenkeyless keyboards like the one I linked will be a little less in price, but you'd have to give up your numpad. If you're okay with that, then I recommend it since it's also more ergonomic.
This is the back lit version of the keyboard I linked you. This one comes with Blue switches.
Edit: So I just looked into the Razer Kaihl switches, and the closest thing that you'll get is MX Cherry Blues (for clicky switches) and MX Cherry Reds (for silent switches). Most people actually prefer Cherry to Kaihl.
If you're nervous about dropping $100 on a keyboard and want to test switches, here's a $15 switch tester.
My pleasure! I'm always happy to help.
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Depending on whether your friend cuts his price a bit (which would be a pretty reasonable request, as [a new one is only $20 more than that at the moment] (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n7702gd5oc)), this could fit into budget as-is, or it could be tinkered with until it did. The keyboard is more placeholder, as until you try out some different switch types (either by going into Best Buy/Frys/what have you and noodling around on the display models, borrowing one, or ordering a [switch] (http://www.cmstore-usa.com/mechanical-key-switch-demo-board/) [sampler] (http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8)) you won't know what you actually prefer (I initially expect to like Blacks and Browns and detest Blues and Reds, but in fact I ultimately found that the opposite was true).
Having tried a few Black Widows from Razer in the store I can say you are getting 99% of the experience of a cherry mx switch (purist might murder me for saying this, but whatever).
You can feel the difference between the two, cherry and razer, if they are side by side, but both are clicky and a bit loud for sure. So if loudness is what you want to remove, blue and green switches are not for you. :)
Yes, reds are generally better for gaming. As I explained in my long-winded post, they are better because they lack any bump, thus you can easily and quickly spam the button. Due to the lack of a bump, you can easily keep the button pressed around the actuation point, so actuation and release are just 0.1 of a millimeter and all you do is apply just a bit more force and let go.
Think of this as flappy birds keyboard style :P
There are a few "tester kits" which come with all sorts of switches, but they are not cheap. Like the typical 6 key ones are over $15, which I find a bit expensive.
This one is cheaper, at $13, but only has 4: red, brown, blue, black.
Black = red with more force needed to press
Brown = reds (some say they have a tactile bump but no click, I say bullshit, they are indistinguishable to reds).
Cooler Master has one with 6, which adds the greens and the clears).
Here's one on Amazon for $10. It's the one I have right now and it makes for a great stress ball. Cheers!
They aren't that difficult to come by, Amazon has the basic 4 for $10. Max Keyboard Keycap, Cherry MX Switch, O-Ring Sampler Tester Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_AEtezb7JADR54
Edit: 9 switch tester for $18. Akwox 9-Key Cherry MX Switch Tester, Keycap puller, keyboard Keycap, O-Ring Sampler Tester Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GZHU1EG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ZyuezbTNBCSFB
Anyone using this keyboard please consider a mechanical keyboard. You can probably test a Black Widow at Best Buy. Now days those keyboards will have "green switches" which are similar to Cherry MX Blues. These are known to be loud switches. There are different switches to accommodate the feel you like. Here is a link to a sampler kit. Off topic, has anyone tried some dampener rings? Do they change the way your keys feel or only affect the sound?
I upgraded my keyboard today, actually. I think the Black Widow is a great starter keyboard. I don't dig lights or anything so I was able to pick it up for $70. It is the one with Cherry MX Blue switches. Sadly my W switch is going out so I ordered the Das Keyboard Model S Ultimate. It has same switches and feels great.
I ordered some replacement switches, a nicer soldering iron than I have, a desolder pump, and some flux. Going to keep it alive for use with my other pc.
You can buy these to test the keys out:
>(Becuz apparently thats the best for FPS)
Ok, stop right there. Stop everything. Do nothing.
You should never, ever, ever buy a mechanical keyboard because someone else says it's the best thing. What you need to do is figure out what features you want out of your keyboard (you mention media keys and backlighting) and get some experience with different switches. Grab a mechanical keycap tester to figure out which switch you like. Now you meet the requirements of asking people for keyboard recommendations: You know what you want.
As for why should you go through all this trouble? Well, a mechanical keyboard is going to last you way, way beyond its warranty. It's going to last enough for you to consider buying keycaps because the ones you have are worn and ugly. It's going to last enough for lots of cool, new stuff to come out while you're still using it. The worst thing you could do is get something that's cheap, only to later find out that there's something you'd like more, but now can't justify the minor upgrades anymore. I say this as someone who did exactly that and is in that exact situation and it fucking sucks.
Also, "that's the best for FPS" is utter, clueless bullshit. A mechanical keyboard does absolutely nothing for FPS gameplay. Some people hold an opinion that certain switches, due to their nature, are easier to double click and thus are better for playing games. Well, when was the last time that double- or triple-tapping a key was something you were doing in an FPS?
ha so I would definitely order a switch tester. 12 bucks could save you piles of trouble.
edit: also what games do you play? Or is it mostly typing?
if you don't there are always the Cherry sampler kit you can order for $10
I kinda regret going with Reds over Browns, because I think I would have liked that tactile bump on key activation.
However, for gaming I really do like the smooth action on the Reds. Coupled with some o-rings it's also really nice for typing.
If I were you, and you're going to go out and spend $100 on a keyboard that's going to last you a long, long time I'd consider getting a switch sampler like this or this (out of stock right now) to see which you like most.
Honestly mine was the sound. I used a friend's MX Red keyboard, and while it is still definitely an amazing keyboard, I wanted something more tactile and loud, strangely enough. I haven't used the blue switches, however I am positive that I want something with the tactile bump, so that narrowed it down to blues, browns, and greens for me. After watching some videos of people typing on youtube, I found that I loved the sound of the blues/greens. Then I simply chose blues because I'm used to my laptop and desktop keys, which are both pretty light to press.
Don't overthink it too much, all of the MX keyswitches are great. It will simply be a difference between super awesome and awesome.
Also they sell switch test kits:
You could buy one of those and then resell it at /r/mechmarket
Hope that helped.
Go into a Best Buy or you local PC store, pray they have some mechanical keyboards and try them out. I firmly believe buying a keyboard is like buying an instrument. You have to try it first and see what feels right for you. I say this because the first mech keyboard I got was MX Red switches and I hate them. I switched- lol- to MX Blue's and I am in love with my keyboard now. Big difference. But explaining that is impossible. You can also order one of these - http://amzn.com/B00E71W4O8 - Switch tester with 4 popular mechanical switch type.
If you're worried about that, I might recommend brown switches. I don't like reds/blacks because it's not as obvious when I've pressed the key. I don't like blues because they're super annoying for everything except typing. Browns are like the perfect middle ground for everything. You know when you hit the key, and you don't press it accidentally, but you still don't have to press very hard. To each their own.
I recommend something like this. It's not as accurate as actually trying a full-scale board, but it gives you a good idea. Make sure to try it with and without the o-rings.
If you don't have a lot of experience with mechanical keyboards, considering getting a sampler like this so you can find out what switch type you like the best.
This will answer most of these questions.
This. I use browns at my work, but everyone around me is older and harder of hearing, so they don't notice.
If anyone around you would notice, you could get any switch with a linear system and put dampeners on them. No one would notice.
Also, if you want to test them out, you can get the tester kit:
It comes with dampeners you can put on to try out the different switches. I found it quite useful.
Order the cheery switch tester board
Find the switch you like the most and go from there
Personally I have brown switches and they feel great to type and game on, it's like reds, but with a little more feedback. But just be aware that its very subtle feedback feel. I'd recommend getting one of these, if you cant find a keyboard to test.
I love my browns, they give just enough of a bump without being completely smooth, like reds or blacks, at the same time being at a more manageable noise level than blues. I can't stand the linear switches. That being said, your best bet would probably be to buy a switch tester and try it for yourself (there's a pretty cheap one on Amazon for $13: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E71W4O8). As you can probably tell, everyone has a different preference.
One note about the brown switch that came on my tester was that it felt a bit too smooth compared to the browns on my K95, the ones on the board are a lot more tactile.
I bought this and it was a decent way to decide which type of switch I wanted
Well, I went into it thinking I was going to like the Cherry MX Blue switch, and the tester confirmed it. The tester I got: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E71W4O8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
The tester I got came with .4mm Orings I think, and they also made me think about getting the o-rings for my keyboard when I decide to actually purchase it.
That being said, it gives a simple test of which one you might like, but I will say, you may never really know until you actually type on a keyboard made of the switches, because honestly only one key might not be enough. It will be enough to see what one you should lean towards.
I went through the same thing a few months ago. I was really worried I was going to be unhappy with the switches I chose. If you are unsure of what switch to get I highly suggest purchasing one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E71W4O8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1466264376&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&amp;keywords=mechanical+keyboard+tester
After trying them all side by side I was totally confident in my decision.
I would suggest reds, or try them out yourself. I got one of the last few ones available.
You can find some on ebay. My opinion, if you use the keyboard for anything other than typing (likes games), get reds. I would prefer browns for normal typing, but for games, if you go slow over the activation point by the bump, it just feels sticky or laggy. But to each their own, which is why I bought the tester.
I bought This Test kit for $14. It has a red, a black, a blue, and a brown key that you can press to see how it feels. It also comes with 0.4mm O-rings that you put on the underside of the keys to make it quiter/feel different. Before I bought this to test them out myself I, went solely on other peoples opinions of the keys; which is a mistake now that I tested them for myself. I always thought I wanted cherry reds since they are the most quiet. But holy shit the feeling of Cherry blues with the O-ring on it was amazing, I clicked it for hours and I would have missed out on the one I truly want now if not for the test kit.
There's a 4 switch tester by Max Keyboard at amazon for 12.99. Looks like there's limited quantity on it too.
You are making a wise consideration, hope to welcome you to the family soon!
A few things to start. I would really suggest buying a switch tester. As easy as it is to read about keys, testing them is essential. Some people say Blues are loud, for others they aren't loud enough. Some say Blacks are too sturdy, others think they are too easy to press, etc, etc. That being said, spend the few extra bucks and test out the switches so you can make a wise investment. Sure it won't tell you what its like to type on, but it will answer the questions like is it going to be too loud? or do I want tactile? or do I want clicky? or do I want linear? Reading can not answer these questions for you, plain and simple.
On that note, a mech is definitely an investment. It should last years, if not decades. If problems do occur, most are easy fixes. So once you do decide what your needs are, such as...
...then start looking for keyboards that fit your criteria. I will say, above all, don't settle on key switch type, all the other stuff can be added or changed fairly easily. Size is probably the next most important decision (in some cases the priority of these two may be flipped).
If you come back with some of your wants/needs/budget we can start looking at specific keyboards you may have questions about!
Could you clarify, do you want an ANSI or ISO layout?
I wouldn't go for any MX switch without trying them out first, as you may find that you like MX Browns or MX Blues a lot more than MX Reds. If you can, you should buy a switch tester like this one to get an idea of what you'd like.
Reds don't help gaming very much, it's more important to have a keyboard that you like.
Buy one of these first: http://smile.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8?sa-no-redirect=1
Or better yet, go somewhere that sells mechanical keyboards and try them out for a bit.
I honestly have no idea what I'm doing. I recently attended the first career fair. I stuttered and got words mixed up the first few times that I talked to people. I don't think that I got an internship. But who knows, I may get one. That would be the best feeling ever!
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Or something like this if you want something a little cheaper.
I have a full-size Ducky at work and a Corsair tenkeyless at home, with Cherry Browns (moderate force, low noise), and both have worked well for me.
I don't have direct experience with a 60% keyboard (like you have), but Ducky's got the Mini that might suit you.
Two preparatory suggestions: order a "demo set" of keys and see which switches you prefer, and buy a set of o-rings (which will help dampen sound) and try those as well. A quick search turns up this set on Amazon that even includes some o-rings.
Would you guys recommend something like this to get a general idea?
yeah but you should do some research on the type of switches you want.
the cherry ones are probably the most common.
you can get this or this to test them out before hand
You may want to check out something like this http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8
Get a feel for the difference yourself. Mechanical switches are all about personal preference.
Assuming you got this tester, those are PCB mounted switches, IE, they're only mounted to the board, and not a metal plate, like they are in most mechanical keyboards nowadays. There's a small amount of play on the keycaps themselves, but I promise you that the switches themselves will be much much tighter on any keyboard you get.
Never used one myself, but I've heard stories. IF you want a modern Keyboard I recommend the Corsair K70, I've had it for over 2 years and no signs of wear yet. Bought it for 129.99 on Amazon. I went with the MX Blue switch, but there are many types available. And they light up, so that is cool too. You want also sample the switches before buying.
K70 Keyboard- http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_4?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;fieldkeywords=k70+keyboard&amp;sprefix=k70+%2Caps%2C207
Keyboard Switch Sample- http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1452263825&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=mechanical+switches
Blue is the loud clickity clackity switch. A lot of people like the noise and try to associate it with mechanical keyboards, but if you're like me and prefer a less noisy experience avoid them. When a friend of mine was still living at home, his mom made him get rid of his blue switch keyboard because it was so loud she couldn't sleep at night being in the next room. He also didn't have o-rings so she had to deal with the clicky noises and the clacking from bottoming out.
Browns are basically quieter versions of Blues. Great for typing without all the noise. Has a tactile bump for actuation without the click noise and great for typing. I use these for both gaming and typing and I love them.
Reds are linear switches. Little quieter than browns. Easier to bottom out if you don't have o-rings because there isn't a bump or click for actuation and they have little resistance. Typically used more for gaming, but doesn't mean you need them for gaming.
All three are commons choices and at the end of the day it completely comes down to preference. If you're unsure what switch you'd prefer, go to a computer store with some on display and try them out. If none are available, there are switch testers to you can order to test out the different choices.
http://www.amazon.com/WASD-6-Key-Cherry-Switch-Tester/dp/B00AZQKCD4 For example.
Also, http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8 cheaper option with less switch choices.
Browns with o-rings are my personal favorite. Brown for the bump without the click, and o-rings to avoid the clack. I also really love the way Black switches feel, but admittedly they're a bit too stiff for me to game with so I stick with brown.
It is entirely subjective, but purchasing yourself a switch tester will definitely help! Some examples:
Please note, I haven't purchased either of these items, so these may not be great examples, but I am just trying to help :)
Worth the money to make sure imo
You might want to grab one of these testers (if you decide to sell the reds and try another switch)
Personally, I like the browns the best.
People are going to give you a lot of unimportant reasons like n-key rollover. The only thing that counts is that they feel so much nicer. I have one with Cherry MX Blue switches on it, and it is super tactile. Some prefer less tactile and more linear switches like the Brown.
I would recommend going to a store and testing them out, or getting something like this. You will be able to feel the difference and decide if it is worth the money, and what switch you like.
I think you'd like blue :) that's what I have and I believe it's the most popular (based on a couple polls I've seen here). If you aren't in a huge hurry to receive your keyboard, why don't you get a sampler set so you can test the different switch types?
Max Keyboard Keycap, Cherry MX Switch, O-Ring Sampler Tester Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_-I9Uub1WA195A
I don't remember the size of the Dell, but that Anker mouse is exactly 5 inches (12.7 cm) from front to back. It fits my hand very well, but I think I have slightly smaller than average hands.
Anyway, I also plan to get a mechanical keyboard this year. I've already gotten this key switch sampler, and I've settled on getting blue switches. For anyone interested, it looks like that one is unavailable currently, but the 4-key version (which I probably could have gone with myself) is still in stock.
Can recommend too: all the keys are raised above the chassis, making cleaning significantly easier.^we know how dirty our keyboards get...
I use the MX Brown version, though—it's mainly personal prefernce whether you opt to use MX Red switches (linear, no resistance), MX Browns (tactile and a little resistance), or MX Blues (more resistant than Browns and clicky). If you can, I recommend that you either go to a local computer hardware store and get a feel for the mechanical keyboards on display, or order a basic mechanical switch sampler kit such as this one.
Those are all solid boards, you might want to pick up a switch tester kit from amazon (they run about $20) to make sure you get the right switches before you drop $200 on a board, other than that, they are all good!
There is a ton of info in the wiki.
As for gaming, I suppose if you played a game that made use of the number pad a lot, then you would want a full size 104 key board. Also, some boards like the Razer blackwidow have extra keys that do....things.
If you never use the number pad, then any ~87 key board (tenkeyless) or ~61 key board (60%) board would be fine.
As for typing, much like gaming, it depends primarily on the type of switches the board has, and not so much the board itself.There are a ton of different opinions about which switches are better for typing and which are better for gaming and which are best for both.Totally subjective.
You could maybe get a key sampler to try out some of the most popular cherry mx switches and see which you like best. There are lots of different switches out there, though. As i said, there is a lot of info on the wiki, and other sites like deskthority have wikis explaining the different switches too.
I have the Corsair K70 [non RGB] with Cherry MX red switches. If I were you I'd get a K70. My friend has the Razer Blackwidow with the custom Razer green switches. He loves it.
Before you buy a mechanical keyboard tho. You really need to try out each switch. You could either buy one of these to test it out, or you can go to a local computer store that has keyboards on show.
If you end up buying a mechanical keyboard without testing the switches out first. You may end up hating your keyboard.
Most people like the MX blues [the clicky ones].
I like the MX reds though because you can't feel a bump when you push down a key, and because they are pretty quiet [unless you bash your keyboard]
There are lots of mechanical keyboards on the market. You could go all out and get a Ducky keyboard or get a pretty cheap one like this one
If you want macros then you can go for a Corsair K95 which has 18 macro keys. If you want less macros then you can go for the Logitech G710+ which has 6 macros.
Just remember to try out each MX switch, and you should be good.
Assuming you got yours from Razer you probably have Cherry MX Blues or Razer Greens (basically the same thing), which would explain the noise complaints. From what I understand your main complaints are noise and actuation force. Just as a suggestion, Cherry MX Browns take 5g less of actuation force, and don't make as much noise, while still having a tactile bump when you press them.
When you find the mechanical keyboard for you, you'll never want to go back.
PS: If you're not sure what switch type you want, check out one of these.
By a sample kit you mean smth like this? (I'm EU tho)
Do you think pimping my current 6Gv2 with new switches and custom caps is a bad idea? Besides the "out of the box" keyboards (CM, Filco, Ducky) I've seen a lot of custom ones with the most bizarre designs, but I have no idea from what basis they actually begin..
I disagree. I prefer browns over reds and blues. It's all up to personal preference I guess. Try buying one of these first:
[Here's one] (http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8), but there are other options with a wider variety of switches.
Best thing is to pick up a switch tester, so you can find out what switch you like. Here is one with the basic 4 switches.
Once you know what you like, https://mechanicalkeyboards.com has the largest selection.
Words really don't do it justice. I bought one of these to figure out which kind of mechanical keyboard switch is right for me.
I got this one. It's gone up a little in price but was invaluable to choosing my boards. Hope this helps
Yeah, now that ive put my self out there... I cant find it either.
Spent the last half hour or so trying to find the video that I heard that in with zero success.
It was recent as well. Not sure if it was Jayztwocents, linus, pauls hardware, franks, or some other video.
That said, I did find these:
ebay search for samplers
key sampler on amazon
You can check with local stores as well, they may have one on hand.
Ill keep an ear and eye out to see if I can find the info about the sampler/credit deal.
Get something like this. I was in the dark about mechanical keyboards as well, but it's not something that can be easily explained. It's a tactile thing, you need to be able to evaluate it with your own hands.
Max Keyboard Keycap, Cherry MX Switch, O-Ring Sampler Tester Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_r9Rrzb031N8WC
You can order a sampler kit, for instance: http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414420239&amp;sr=1-1
This guy knows his stuff.
I feel like you would really enjoy typing with the blues.
If you are really interested in actually feeling each type of switch, I would recommend spending $10 on a switch set.
I recommend you get this
It has four of the most popular genuine cherry mix switch types with transparent key caps so you can see which one you're trying. Also comes with a key puller and damper O rings so you can try all kinds of combos. Once you decide what you want and you finally get a nice new keyboard, it makes a nice paper weight/fidget toy anyway lmao
i got it because If i was spending $140 on a keyboard i wanted to make sure which switches i wanted
No problem, I was in your position and someone urged me to do the same. I was about to go for Browns then found I actually didn't like them at all, and loved Blues. Then I was able to make my purchase with 100% confidence.
Here's a tester: http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/
If you can find them in stock, Cooler Master sells a tester, and gives you $15 credit towards one of their mechanical keyboards so you essentially get the tester for free, and no extra money lost.
Usually Blue is more popular than Blacks. I personally like Reds, but I've never tried Browns or Blacks so I'm getting one of these.
Here's one I found on Amazon, for $11. Though, it only has 4 options...
I got mine from amazon. It was $10.99, but free shipping.
Mechanical keyboard stores are far and few anywhere that isn't in southeast Asia, sorry, but it's the truth. You may be able to find a Razer BW in a local Best Buy, but that's limited to Razer's (that's what they're calling them, they're really Kailh) orange and green switches (unless you get lucky and they still have pre-2014 models that still have Cherry switches), but other than that, you're looking at a switch tester.
Using a Rosewill keyboard with brown keyswitches, and the keyboard is great for me because I live with other people and often work late into the night so noise is definitely something I have to consider. Love the "clack clack" feel of the switches. Mechanical keyboards are a pricey investment, so it's important to make sure that you really like what you're getting. I'd recommend trying out a Cherry MX switch tester first (http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8) and then heading over to /r/MechanicalKeyboards to find something good.
Here is the simple method the mech switches:
>BLUES - Typing
>REDS - Gaming
>BROWNS - A mix of both
Some more tips:
What keyboard to get?
Personally here is what I recomend:
If you want real advice, there is a while fucking sub for this (and it is very active):
Just go to that sub and ask away. Also look at pics of other keyboards, to get an idea of what you like. Personally, I have the Corsair Strafe RGB with browns. I love it more than anything. But yeah, get the switch tester on amazon, and check out that sub.
Hope this helps :)
Here is the Amazon thingy:
>Max Keyboard Keycap, Cherry MX Switch, O-Ring Sampler Tester Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gY-Dxb9RYZEYA
You didn't click the add frequently bought together button did you? That combo of 3 items is about 40 usd
You can check out this one but it doesn't have as many keys to test. http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1462723831&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=Switch+Tester
I actually just got this four key sample pack. I'm likely going to get blues myself. Although it still doesn't seem quite as nice as the clicky mechanical keyboards I remember from years ago.
Imas online da narucis za male pare kit od 5 dugmica, cherry mx blue, brown, red i jos po koji. Kosta oko 10$
Evo ga link: http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8
I still recommend the mouse though. It is much more comfortable than the Naga and it's cheaper.
For $10 you can order one of these to test the keys for a mechanical keyboard. If you don't want to spend that, you can stop by a store and try them.
Order a switch sampler off amazon. Then, get a cooler master quickfire variant in whichever switch you want.
these are nice if you don't have a local place to demo them. The switches just feel different and it is user preference really.
I went with browns because they felt more consistent to me and have been happy that I did.
Can be found here.
In the market for my first mechanical keyboard sometime between now and the end of the year.
I ordered a switch tester and decided I'd like my first keyboard to use Cherry MX Red switches. (Switch Tester for the curious: https://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8)
What I'm (hopefully) looking to get:
I'm in the US and do live by a microcenter in case that offers anything.
I'm trying to keep my budget around $150, and because this is my first mech and will be my only one for a while, I'm okay with pushing around that border a little bit.
I have my eyes set on the Ducky One TKL RGB currently, which as far as I'm aware will be available early november.
Thanks for any help! Much appreciated.
Hey man, cool that you're looking into an upgrade!
You said you wanted 10Keyless, i believe CMstorm has some good ones (also one that is reduced in size because the numpad and arrow keys are merged [Quickfire TK] if you want to look into that), corsair also have some good keyboards i've heard and so does logitech but i'm not sure if either of those have TKL versions.. DAS-keyboard and ducky are probably the best built keyboards out there at this time.
I personally use MX blue switches and i've been told many times that red switches are best for gaming in general. if you want you can look into a few tester switches to see what suits you best (http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8).
Feel free to ask me more questions about this matter if you feel the need to do so :)
If you really can't decide, you should purchase a cherry switch sampler available [here] (http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00N6DXTW4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1418104761&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=cherry+switch+sampler) (or [here] (http://www.amazon.com/Max-Keyboard-Keycap-Cherry-Sampler/dp/B00E71W4O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1418104761&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cherry+switch+sampler&amp;pebp=1418104793540) if you decide test not as many as the first option provides.)
I would recommend browns or blues because they are both relatively easy to type on and get used to, but it depends if you want the audible feedback or not.
OH WAIT if you think blues are sloppy but you like the click, consider greens. Greens are like blues with the bump and click BUT requires 80 grams of actuation force, which is much stiffer than the blues, which only require 50 grams, so you still get that nice click and a very stiff key, along with less typos and a great typing experience. [Here's an example of a green switch mech.] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st3dCj9gkrE)