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Saved this comment from a fella in micro grocery to start my set up
These are suggestions - feel free to ask more questions if you need anything.
Read this guide - I wish I had had something like this when I started: http://homegrow-pro.com/quantum-board-build-grow-tent/ Read this guide too: http://homegrow-pro.com/the-3x3-grow-tent-setup/
Essentials
• Grow Tent: 3 ft x 3 ft x 6 ft is the size you'd probably want. This is the one I bought: https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01DXYMKIO
• Light: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Kingbrite-240W-samsung-lm301h-288v3-quantum_62120261175.html?spm=a2700.7803241.0.0.31d73e5fhFxf6a This light is a fantastic LED quantum board that is very easy to assemble - I got the 3000K one with the epistar
• Fabric Pots: Head to Amazon and grab yourself a 5-pack of 7 gallon fabric pots https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Gallons-Thickened-Nonwoven-Handles/dp/B00TF9E9PY/
• Also get yourself a saucer (you can get this at any garden store) and a pot elevator for each pot (pot elevator example: http://amazon.ca/Gro-Pro-725675-Level-Elevator/dp/B01J37FHF8/)
• Soil: Get yourself a bail of Pro Mix HP with mycorrhizae (it's cheap, reliable, and hard to overwater) from Canadian Tire, Rona, any store really and get also a bag of earthworm castings. Cover the bottom of your fabric pot with the castings (2-3 inches deep) https://www.homehardware.ca/en/20l-organic-worm-castings/p/5025712
• Nutrients: Gaia Green Dry Amendments (All Purpose and Power Bloom) Mix the All Purpose in with your Pro-Mix HP and then top dress your "soil" every month, changing it to Power Bloom during flowering https://www.canadiangardensupply.com/gaia-green-all-purpose-4-4-4.html https://www.canadiangardensupply.com/gaia-green-power-bloom-2-8-4-power-bloom-2-8-4-2kg.html
• Ventilation: Get the AC Infinity Cloudline T4 - it's absolutely worth it. Then purchase a 4-inch carbon filter and 4 inch tubing from Amazon (branding doesn't matter for these two things) https://www.amazon.ca/AC-Infinity-CLOUDLINE-T4-Ventilation/dp/B06ZXWN3BG https://www.amazon.ca/AC-Infinity-Dual-Layer-Aluminium-Ventilation/dp/B071LHCFZ8 https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Australia-Charcoal-Pre-filter-Included/dp/B01DXYMBU6
• Timer: You can go cheap on this, but also consider a smart timer (like a Wemo) https://www.amazon.ca/Insight-Switch-Enabled-Compatible-Amazon/dp/B00EOEDJ9W
• Seeds: Jahseeds.ca - Canadian breeder, amazing beans, amazing price! Go with feminized seeds for your first round. https://jahseeds.ca/shop?olsPage=t%2Ffeminized-seeds
Extra accessories
• Pruning shears (seperate ones for trimming live plants and ones for harvesting) https://www.amazon.ca/Pruning-Gardening-Straight-Stainless-Precision/dp/B076HL5JJM
• a lighter (for sanitizing)
• a set of tweezers, for planting your sprouted seed
• some garden gloves
• rope ratchets for your lights
• zips ties for protecting things
• binder clips (for low stress training)
• plant ties (soft rubber and wire kind)
• watering can
• two pairs of measuring spoons for dry amendments
• a clip on fan and rotating fan (for air circulation over and under the canopy)
• markers and a pack of tag plant markers for identifying plants
• soil moisture https://www.amazon.ca/Soil-Moisture-Sensor-Meter-Hydrometer/dp/B014MJ8J2U
• paper towels (for germination)
• Bucket Head Wet Dry Vacuum Powerhead Lid for 19 Litre (5 Gal.) Multi-Use Buckets great for gathering up the excess water and tipped soil) https://www.homedepot.ca/product/bucket-head-wet-dry-vacuum-powerhead-lid-for-19-litre-5-gal-multi-use-buckets/1000666690
• 3 five gallon buckets (1 for the buckethead vacuum and 2 for extra water reservoirs) and two lids
• 3 surge protector power bars
• Various AC power extension cables
• 1 trellis net (for ScrOG training)
• USB microscrope (used to check the trichomes at harvest - if you want you can also get an adapter so it plugs directly into your smartphone, as opposed to plugging it into a computer) https://www.amazon.ca/Jiusion-Magnification-Endoscope-Microscope-Compatible/dp/B06WD843ZM
• 62% Boveda packs for curing
• Mason jars for curing and storage
• hanging rack for drying (you can substitute this for a hanger and some plant ties)
• Duct tape
It's a little more expensive at the start, but this setup will pay for itself within two harvests. With this setup you can expect to yield between 8 to 12 oz every run, once you grow accustomed to the cycle.
Use something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-Heavy-Duty-Four-Layer-Ventilation/dp/B0791V19H7/
It's cheap, safe, flexible and insulated.
Even if only cold air travels through something, it can still catch on fire for some other reason. Cardboard is just a big no-no in construction.
Fellow canuck! Welcome!
These are suggestions - feel free to ask more questions if you need anything.
Read this guide - I wish I had had something like this when I started: http://homegrow-pro.com/quantum-board-build-grow-tent/ Read this guide too: http://homegrow-pro.com/the-3x3-grow-tent-setup/
Essentials
Extra accessories
It's a little more expensive at the start, but this setup will pay for itself within two harvests. With this setup you can expect to yield between 8 to 12 oz every run, once you grow accustomed to the cycle.
> Do they make ones that are long enough to be used for intakes?
yes. Here's one for 120mm fans: https://www.amazon.com/Coolerguys-Thermal-Plastic-Electronics-Crypto/dp/B00W8AHHU6/
I think custom builds rarely use them because they don't look as nice. I would say the greatest advantage of water cooling is the looks
Sure:
Eh, I'll probably catch flak for this but I hate pie cuts. I think it makes charge piping look like dryer duct, and I'd much rather go polished or powdercoated.
I installed this in my 3 seasons room this year. It's not the prettiest, but I mounted the inline fan outside underneath the overhang of my roof so it won't get wet. I ran ducting into the room and attached the filter to it. The fan is rated at 442 CFM, so it moves quite a bit of air. So far it's been amazing. No smell leaks into my house any more, and the room doesn't get too smokey since it also acts as an exhaust fan.
>decent results for $1000
>actually recommended 1500
LOL @ the current /r/microgrowery
I remember when this used to be pages of people growing with tube light T4s for seedlings and CFLs for cheap grows.
Either way you need a budget. Let's say $175 for fun.
Go to a hardware store and get the cheapest 10 pack of LED bulbs. Get a power strip and some adapters to build one of these with those LED bulbs. You can fit 8 bulbs on a good power strip, save 2 bulbs for replacements if you want. That's 80W of LED from the wall for like $15-$20.
Get a tent. Here's a 2x2x4 for $38.. A tent will be easier than building anything, especially for the price.
With that small of a tent, you won't need a 6" fan, but if you think you'll get a big tent some day you may want to consider one. Get a 4" inline fan. Here's one on Amazon for $45, that comes with a speed controller to turn down (make quieter).
If you can't have your whole house smelling, you need a quality carbon filter. Here's an ok filter for $36 that will match your fan. It should last you a grow or 2.
Lights - $20
Tent - $38
Fan - $45
Filter - $36
You're at $139..
For the last $36 you need to consider your plant's pot, soil, nutes, and other small misc like rope or clothespins for plant training. It's not much, but you're shooting for cheap as possible. You can see where adding funds really can help this way. Hope it's helpful!
Your planned setup sounds pretty similar to mine, so hopefully this helps. Good luck!
Tent: 2x2 seems just right if you plan on growing one or two plants for personal use. 4' is quite short, though -- I have a 2x2x5.5, and the extra foot and a half makes a tremendous difference when you count vertical space for containers, carbon filters, keeping lights 18"-ish from the canopy, and so on. Even taller wouldn't hurt. (I have a Secret Jardin DR60 II tent, though I don't think it's anything special.)
For example, the Mephisto strain guide says Cosmic Queen can get 60-100cm under HPS/CMH. While plants can end up a bit shorter under LEDs, 2-3'-ish could get tight in a 4' tent. Doable, but you'd also have to stay on top of training. (I'd recommend doing LST even with a taller tent, because it can increase yield a lot. Also I find it really fun.)
Light: I have an HLG QB288v2 (3000k), which is essentially the same as the 125w from Kingbrite. It seems absolutely perfect for that size tent. (The 240w is wider than a 2x2 tent.)
Carbon filter: This was a sticking point for me initially, because my hydro shop screwed up and recommended a filter that was too long to fit in my tent (oops), followed by a replacement filter whose CFM wasn't high enough for my fan, so it was only like 80% effective in flower (double oops). This carbon filter is 210 CFM, isn't too long to fit, seems well made, and is still reasonably inexpensive. Phresh filters are great too, but cost a lot more.
Fan: I have a Can-Fan S-400, which seems solid and has a 5 year warranty, but you can probably find something quieter and less expensive. (I keep hearing people recommend an AC Infinity fan, but haven't used one.) Since it doesn't have a built-in speed controller, I use an analog voltage transformer to make it slower/quieter. The cheap external fan speed controllers work by flipping the AC power on and off very quickly (pulse width modulation), which can be really hard on some types of motors, and also tents to make them loudly buzz. Actually smoothly reducing the voltage works much better. That controller is more expensive, but it's the kind of electronics gear I could probably sell used years down the line.
Containers: I grow in coco, which tends to use slightly smaller volumes (I like 2-3 gallons for autos), but from what I've read 3-5 gallons of soil sounds like a good fit? Check out the Mephisto grow guide. Fabric pots work well, though mine have gotten grungy between the roots and salt buildup, and cleaning them is a pain. I started using airpots instead, and I like them a lot more.
Mephisto: Those sound like great choices. If you get order direct and get a couple more, you'll get several freebies, typically some great one-off crosses you can't get any other way. (They only do bitcoin payment at the moment, though.) Fugue State is my favorite strain so far, but there are many good options. You might want to also check out Daz Mephisto's Night Owl Seeds side project (which can take other forms of payment). I'm growing Zamaldelica Express right now.
Great white and Growers Recharge seem to be more popular and well thought of.
Here is a fan with speed controller built into it
Here is my copy paste daily response to people planning on using shit tier LEDs.
> TL;DR Don't waste your cash on shit tier LEDs - buy HPS/MH/CMH if you are short on money.
> LEDs are not better in any measurable way then HID until you get to at least mid tier stuff.
> DE HPS / CMH are close to comparable to COBs. That said I believe the results of lab testing that I've seen show more usable light from Vero / Cree COBs ( and possible Citizen , but I haven't seen as much data on them). The number that you are looking for is the ppfd. This is the photosynthetic photon flux density. It is the measurement of PAR at the canopy and is measured in micromoles per second per meter squared.
> IIRC really good HIDs like Gavita DE HPS or CMH are around 1.7 - 1.8 micromoles per joule and COBs are 1.8-2.2, and quantum board type setups are 2.5+. Shit tier LEDs from amazon (mars hydro , vivaspectra) are like 1.0 or less.
> I'm not saying you can't grow bud with shit tier LEDs I'm saying you will grow more and better bud using HPS of the same $ amount vs shit tier LEDs.
In your example your spending $140 on 10 year old LED tech and getting 264W at the wall which doesn't even come close to the 40 - 50W per SF rule most people use. This $120 400W HPS will crush those Mars lights in yield and quality. This is why I say don't use LEDs unless your ready to spread that wallet wide.
Things to think about later are drying racks, jars, and trimming scissors.
Container: Rubbermaid 20 gal Brute Bin
Lights: Kingbrite 60 W Quantum Board (if you want dimmable, ask for a dimmable driver like the HLG-60H-36B and a potentiometer)
Screws: You'll need lots of nuts, long screws, washers, and spacers to mount the board and PSU. First put the board on the lid and mark where to drill, then drill holes. Then put the power supply on the outside in the middle, mark and drill those hoses. Mount power supply and then flip lid over and mount the light, using long screws and nuts to hold it in place (the light should NOT touch the lid but be 1-2 inches from it, held in place by nuts). Drill small hole for power line, then connect. Finally, drill 3 inch hole for exhaust beside the light. You'll also need long screws with nuts to keep the fan and shrouds together. Be sure to use spaces anywhere the screw heads or nuts are touching the lid or the lights. For light spacers, I used rubber spaces between the nuts.
Cooling shrouds: 120mm Fan Duct Cooling Shroud to 4 Inch Vent Hose
90 degree 4 inch elbow for exhaust: 4 in. 90° Round Adjustable Elbow
4" to 3" reducer for exhaust: 4 in. to 3 in. Round Reducer
2x regular JB Weld to mount the reducer and 3 inch "trunk"
Fan: Delta AFB1212SHE-PWM 120mm x 38mm 4pin PWM+Tac Sensor Extreme Hi-speed 3700 RPM 151 CFM
Fan controller: Noctua NA-FC1 4-pin PWM Fan Controller
Fan power supply: LE Power Adapter, UL Listed, 3A, 120V AC to 12V DC Transformer, 36W Power Supply
Fan power supply adapter: CRJ Female DC Power Supply Plug to 12V Molex Power Adapter Cable
Fan molex adapter: Coolerguys Mini 3-4 pin Fan Adapter (Single)
2x ABS fan elbow (for "snout" intake): 3 in. ABS DWV 90-Degree Hub x Hub Long-Turn Elbow
Air filter for intake: 16.25 in. x 12.5 in. x 0.19 in. - 16.3 in. x .2 in. x 12.5 in. - CF300 Carbon Filter
Air filter (not pictured): VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter Odor Control with Australia Virgin Charcoal for Inline Fan
Fan hose (not pictured): iPower GLDUCT4X8C 4 inch 8 feet Non-Insulated Flex Air Aluminum Foil
Watering device (not pictured): Janolia Automatic Irrigation Kit, Self Watering System, with Electronic Water Timer
Camera (not pictured): Wyze Cam 1080p HD Indoor Wireless Smart Home Camera with Night Vision (glue steel piece for magnetic base onto the upper side of the bin)
Notes: This design is very safe because it keeps all electronic components high in the bin. At the same time, using a battery powered watering system keeps you from requiring to ever open it. The lamp runs very cool. The PWM fan controller works well and keeping the air moving without using a lot of power (do NOT buy a cheap voltage modulator, I did first and it doesn't work nearly as well as the PWM controller). The Wyze cam is super cheap and lets you keep an eye on everything or make timelapses. Have fun growing your tomatoes!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DXYMBU6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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It's a carbon filter
Fan duct shrouds work perfectly. They’re apparently used in bitcoin mining, but are great when repurposed for swamp coolers.
Once you have the shroud mounted just slide 5” tubing over it and hose clamp it in place.
Like /u/blackboard mentioned, purchase a carbon filter (4" or 6" depending on size of your setup/plant total) and also get the matching duct (4" duct for 4" filter and vice versa). Also, pick up an inline-fan. A simple and effective way to set it up is to connect fan to the filter, then connect the duct to the fan so it sucks the air through the filter and through the duct, out of the tent. If you have a grow light that is set up to be cooled, just connect the light to be in between the filter and the fan. Make sure you hang or attach the carbon filter higher up in you tent/box, so it removes the hot air. Vent the duct (which is blowing out the warm/stinky air to the outdoors if possible. You can have another inline-fan/duct setup blowing into the tent, but it is not necessary. Just make sure that you have a hole or small opening on the lower, opposite side of your box for fresh air to get sucked in to replace the hot stinky air that your blowing out through the filter/fan/duct.
If that doesn't make sense to you, I can PM you a picture of my current setup.
Okay 4 plants with good genetics can yield just as much weed as 6 plants with lesser genetics.
So here is what I recommend.
Tent: 4x4 minimum with 5x5 preferred because it gives you room to walk in the tent which saves your back and also gives you room for extra equipment inside the tent, buy Vivosun they are good quality and have excellent zippers.
Seeds/breeders: Dinafem and Dutch Passion are excellent breeders you can buy both from Dinafem.
https://www.dinafem.org/en/
Grow Light: Depending on how large of a yield you want you have several options.
500 Watt Samsung LED.
https://meijiuled.en.alibaba.com/product/62001333924-807906070/Fomex_hlg_550v2_Samsung_lm301b_480w_288_full_spectrum_dimmer_function.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.8.24d4185dhzMSXW
320 watt Samsung LED.
If you want more than 500 watts in a 4x4 or 5x5 you can buy more than one of these lights and hang them side by side.
https://meijiuled.en.alibaba.com/product/60803100408-807313817/2018_new_products_quantum_board_800_V2_samsung_lm301b_top_bin_full_spectrum_led_grow_light_with_320W_HLG_driver.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.72.39352189gT0xyF
Ventilation:
Exhaust fan.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074XBXFPD?pf_rd_p=c2945051-950f-485c-b4df-15aac5223b10&pf_rd_r=MZ90W6M80NJB8KY91153
Carbon Filter.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01731MLFK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Ducting.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0791V19H7/?coliid=IOTPSB8SN2VX3&colid=2JRQ421G587OR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Fertilizer/supplements:
https://www.advancednutrients.com/
Misc stuff:
Hygrometer.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HDW58GS/?coliid=I3I7T3XZ9CIWY3&colid=2JRQ421G587OR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Rope Hangers.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BWQB49J/?coliid=I3UY93HADIWB52&colid=2JRQ421G587OR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Jewelers Loupe.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077XWJGN4/?coliid=I2Z2SKYZ5WH6JZ&colid=2JRQ421G587OR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Trimming Scissors.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00114TK46/?coliid=I1DY00ZE56UXO4&colid=2JRQ421G587OR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Felt Pots.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TF9E6XE/?coliid=I21TH7VWPFRA0E&colid=2JRQ421G587OR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
TDS Meter.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N2O1Z5B/?coliid=I1SGIRSI7FWY4V&colid=2JRQ421G587OR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
pH Meter.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M87S9F4/?coliid=I2H2GCFLMBVHM4&colid=2JRQ421G587OR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Is there anything else I can help you with?
tent
light comes with hangers... looks complicated to order from alibaba but its not... and 1week delivery. you can also order from HLG in usa or canada but its more expensive. or you could go with a 400w hps from amazon with vented hood, or a 315 cmh.
fan amazing fan (have the 6'' model)
timer with battery built in
filter
temp and humidity
fan
Well.. If that's not working you should just buy the cheapest carbon filter + fan on amazon and be done with it IMO.
Although, even with a good filter and fan you have to have some negative pressure meaning that you have to suck out more air than you pull in. If you can't get negative pressure then the smell can leak out. If you have a tent and you get a real fan and filter you'll see the walls suck in when you close the tent and that means theirs negative pressure.
Here's some amazon links.
Filters-
https://www.amazon.com/VenTech-Carbon-Charcoal-Control-Filter/dp/B00QLB5U70/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987037&sr=8-9&keywords=carbon+filter
https://www.amazon.com/VenTech-Carbon-Charcoal-Control-Filter/dp/B00QLB5U70/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987037&sr=8-9&keywords=carbon+filter
Fans-
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-Variable-Controller-Ventilation/dp/B01C6IJSB0/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987316&sr=8-11&keywords=inline+fan+4%22
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Variable-Speed-Controller/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987316&sr=8-14&keywords=inline+fan+4%22
Or just get a whole kit..
https://www.amazon.com/VenTech-VT-IF4-CF4-B-Controller/dp/B005GJ7TFE/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1480987446&sr=8-8&keywords=inline+fan+4+inch
If you have this
VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter Odor Control with Australia Virgin Charcoal for Inline Fan, Grow Tent Odor Scrubber, Pre-Filter Included, Reversible Flange 4" x 14" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DXYMBU6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LVqSDbXCFH66J
This was my first carbon filter and it worked well. 35 bucks.
You need something like this
I actually didn't tally up the cost as that wasn't really of a concern to me, but I'll try my best to provide links to the things I bought for this. Feel free to add it up for me!
I also bought various tools, like crimpers, Dremel kit, drill, etc, but I don't consider those to be project-specific as I'll have them for the foreseeable future. Let me know if there's anything you see that you think I missed!
Nutes: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006XTQGLO?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Few packages of these to hang lights and filter:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010DD743O?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Extension cords
Plenty of options
Lights
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01B4GQ6MO?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Fabric pots:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TF9E6XE?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Air control
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01H1R0K68?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Fans
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001R1RXUG/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Outlet timer:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XC7GTCN/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Tent https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01731MNJE/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Carbon filter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CJ5D4AG/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4 inch duct
Can find anywhere
Jewelers loop (super important)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00K0BGNNC?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
To dry your buds
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GXHQIKO?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Surge protectors and ext cords
Find anywhere
Inline fans
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M7S46YZ?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
Soil probe
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017GQ9VVY/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A few other things I got locally from grow shops. Quality seeds are important. Greenpointseeds.com is always having bomb sales, ship from Colorado, and are top quality. Soil from local grow shops but can also buy from online. I went cheaper on light, but I wouldn't do that again. Get good quality lights.
I don't advise doing this at all, but if you're gonna do it anyway: you should know that common venting is problematic. Without backdraft dampers, you end up just shuttling air from one vent to the other. You can't simply wye them together and be done with it.
You'd need one of these on each side, and you'd have to join them with one of these (you have to increase diameter after the wye). It's also required that common vents be built with galvanized, not PVC.
Like I said, don't advise doing it at all... but I'm not gonna let you hack together something that could cause CO poisoning, either. If you're gonna do it, this is how.
Something like this https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Variable-Speed-Controller/dp/B01CTM0H6I is what you should be using with a carbon filter.
Even in the old days, they could fit a back draft shutter which stops gusts of cold wind blowing in.
But you should never try to block these off or you'll have worse problems with moisture and mold.
If you aren’t planning on getting a bigger tent I would stick with a 4” exhaust and a 4”/6” carbon filter. Here’s the link for the fan and one for the filter . I use a bigger fan and filter personally, but that’s because I plan on getting a bigger tent after my third or fourth grow. Based on the dimensions of your tent this should be a solid setup for you even if you go up a bit in the future.
Alright taking into consideration the 12 plant limit here, my previous setup was too big for so few plants. So with some downsizing hopefully saves even more!
Tent - GROWNEER 48"x36"x72" Lodge Propagation Tent
Lights - HLG65 lm301b and red 660nm hydroponic grow light 4000K x 2
Kingbrite 240W samsung lm301h 288v3 quantum board X1
Fan - AC Infinity CLOUDLINE S4, Quiet 4” Inline Duct Fan with Speed Controller
PH Meter - Wellcows Digital PH Meter
PPM Meter - HM Digital TDS-EZ Water Quality TDS Tester
Carbon Filter - VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter
Ducting - VIVOSUN 2-PACK 4 Inch 8 Feet Non-Insulated Flex Air Aluminum Ducting
Nutrients - MEGA Crop (2500g)
Botanicare CAL-MAG Plus Plant Supplement 2-0-0 Formula, 1 Quart
PH Control - General Hydroponics pH Control Kit
Soil - PREMIER HORTICULTURE 20380RG PRO-Mix HP High Porosity Grower Mix
Pots - Gardzen 10-Pack 1 Gallon Grow Bags x 2
Cloning Machine - CLONE KING 25
Total - 880.62 (includes shipping)
So with this setup ill keep 1 or 2 mother plants and then run the rest in SoG in 1 gallon pots. Using the 2 4000k lights for the mother plant and the cloning station and the 240w for the SoG area of the tent. Its a small setup but I think it'll work. Any idea what kinds of yeilds this could achieve? Any further input would be greatly appreciated.
I setup some filtering for my smelly resin 3d printer and I tried a 120mm fan but it wasn't strong enough. Maybe my fan was weak. Then I used a 12v bilge blower that they use on boats with a variable speed control. This is great in terms of air movement but it's noisy. Apparently, this is a good inexpensive option if you want more air movement through your filter (I'm going to switch to one of these soon unless I figure out some way to insulate my bilge blower to make it quiet):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075SY5P1K/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3NP2ORRCG15VI&psc=1
They have multiple products -- I'm talking about the cheapest one at $26.79 at the moment (4" duct fan, 197 cfm). It would use the 4" dryer duct you mentioned (I'm using that too, works great).
I'm putting a splitter on my system to hook up to a booth/3d print handling/soldering station. I made mine out of foamcore/foam board from Dollar Tree. The portable option looks like and a plastic tub is a good idea too but I wanted something more permanent (have a small table to dedicate to it).
For the output part, if you totally want to get rid of anything, you could send it through one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DXYMBU6
I'm using a similar one (one I bought was a couple bucks less but went out of stock). It completely gets rid of the resin smell so I think it would work well for stinky paints. But for acrylic, I'm sure it's overkill but I'm going to be using it for exactly that too along with my other uses.
To be 100% clear, this is how my setup works:
To connect the dryer duct, I put some electrical tape around the surface I was connecting to and then used cheap zip ties (had to double them up) to hold the duct on. They have hose clamps too but they seem a bit overkill for our usage.
This is a great list. Thanks for posting it.
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Hydroking.ca is another newer shop in Little Italy that's pretty good for hydroponic growers.
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For people wanting to go LED, I put together this tutorial on how to build a no soldering required LED build - https://imgur.com/a/yZo5FsB
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For some friends asking about a 4 plant setup, I made this quick list of things they'd need:
- Soil $149- http://destinygrowsystems.com/grow-kits/ - https://www.greencorner.ca/destiny-4-plant-grow-kit.html
- lighting $199 - https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Digital-Dimmable-Ballast/dp/B00P8P50G6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1539906294&sr=8-3&keywords=hps%2B600w&dpID=51VpECcA31L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1
- Tent $119 - https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Horticulture-Hydroponic-Obeservation-Growing/dp/B01DXYMQ9M/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1539910838&sr=1-1&keywords=grow+tent&refinements=p_85%3A5690392011
-bHVAC $189 - https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOHOME-Scrubber-Aluminum-Flexible-Ventilation/dp/B07CHC2Z1N/ref=sr_1_6?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1539906699&sr=1-6&keywords=6%22+carbon+filter&dpID=51VdpZrXbhL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
- pots $19 - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01I1D9N9Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_F7rYBbNA7CD4V
- Saucers $21 - https://www.amazon.ca/Hydrofarm-Hgs12-Clear-12-Inch-Saucer/dp/B0055F5WC6/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1539906520&sr=8-14&keywords=saucer
just want to chime in here, I was in the same boat as you. Starting out as just an experiment seeing if I could actually sprout a seed, turned into a dedicated project :p But I can tell you I didn't have any idea with like lights, tents, air filters etc. So first thing I bought was this LED , but a better option would be this Viparspectra (the one I bought though has been just fine) and just hung it in my closet with the plant, and that's it. veg'ed it for 4 weeks just like that with the light on a timer and my closet door closed. (get a little desk fan to to move some air over the leaves) Then I figured I'd switch to flower, and was kinda on the edge about investing in a tent and carbon filter. but every thread I read about smell, veterans would always say "It's gonna smell a lot!" So I bit the bullet and got a 2x2x4 tent and this carbon filter and fan . You can probably use your DIY carbon filter just fine. Anyway, long story short, I started to flower and literally two days later I walk into my house after work and the smell just hits me. And this is just one plant. So definitely invest in that stuff. But as for the PC fan, unfortunately it's not going to have enough static pressure to force air through a carbon filter. You don't have to go with the one I got, like brotha said the duct boosters will work too. If you have any question let me know cause I relate very well to your situation, except I've now been halfway through the process lol. pm me if you want
If it has to be PVC, I don't really know.
You could use something like this if you use ducting instead.
Hey! I bought a filter off amazon and it was garbage. I wrote a 1 stare review saying it didn’t remove the smell and the seller contacted me and agreed to give me a refund if I removed the review. Try writing a review and see what happens. If you happen to be in Canada I ordered https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Australia-Charcoal-Pre-filter-Included/dp/B01DXYMBU6/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542050922&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=carbon+filter&psc=1 and it actually works. I’ve tested it in flower and there was no smell. Hope this helps.
4in fan
Ducting
Hi there. I went with that combo because some of the cheaper combos had pretty poor ratings on FakeSpot, but that's really the only reason. If you have a cheaper (and reliable) combo, I'd certainly take a look!
Okay. Do you think I would be sacrificing any "noob-friendliness" by ditching the peat pellets on my first go? I know you can just dump the seed into the medium, but I want to "get it right" my first time and reduce the margin of error. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
EDIT: Would these two work instead of the combo I had?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D8TZ2KV/?coliid=I190I6ZPDD0E93&colid=WARD1BGFR803&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EPE3XHY/?coliid=I1X2Q9SFFQF5I8&colid=WARD1BGFR803&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
iPower GLFANXINL6FILT6MD25C 6Inch High CFM Inline Exhausting Fan & Carbon Air Filter w/1050+ IAV Australia Virgin Charcoal,Pre-Filter Included,Reversible Flange & 25Feet Ducting w/2Clamps Combo https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIIPTHA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_R339ybXV2D584
Probably be able to get a way with a 4" fan/filter if it's not too hot in there
Would this carbon filter, VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter Odor Control with Australia Virgin Charcoal for Inline Fan, Grow Tent Odor Scrubber, Pre-Filter Included, Reversible Flange 4" x 14" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DXYMBU6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_0C6RDbBJWSN4Q work with these fans? ELUTENG Dual 120mm USB Fan with 3 Speed Controller, 5V Ventilator Fan Rechargeable Compatible for Laptop Receiver DVR Playstation Xbox Desk Computer Cabinet Cooling https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071Y4MGFK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ED6RDbSX70SX5
The 4" Phresh filter I ordered arrived and the carbon was all broken up and leaking everywhere (Amazon reviews seem accurate). I tried to install it anyway but my ducting is 4" and even though they listed their filter as 4", it wouldn't fit.
I measured the filter where the ducting attaches and it was 4 1/8"....so I returned it.
I ordered a different filter and it's 100% better than my old Vivosun filter, eliminate my smell issues outside the tent completely and I'm in almost week 4 of flower.
Filter I am using and happy with: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VN4KL1B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_izhODb52XHD93
My only complaint is the prefilter doesn't have the cool logo on it, it's just plain white which really isn't a big deal lol.
If you want a list of materials you'll need, go on Google Maps and find your local hydroponics store. Any clerk at those stores will help you out. They will also help you understand the basics of a set up.
The real necessities of an indoor grow are:
A grow tent (I prefer Gorilla Grow )
A grow light (I prefer California LightWorks )
An inline ventilation system with carbon filter Link for example.
Then there are optional appliances like an indoor air conditioner or an air filter.
This completes the "set-up".
Then you have to decide what kind of grow you're planning - Soil, Coconut husk, water culturing. Typical gardening uses soil and it's what most people are used to. So unless you already understand the other stuff, start with soil.
For soil, you'll want fabric 5-gal pots with plastic drip pans underneath.
It's also recommended to get some sort of support for the plants - either a SCROG net, or a tomato cage (I prefer cages for mobility).
So you fill the fabric pots with soil, put it in your set-up grow tent. Now you need to get seeds going. There are tons of youtube videos showing this, you can google them.
That's really it. You can add nutrients to the soil, but most soil has base nutrients in it already. You really won't need to add much, and if you're not adding much; you won't need to flush really either.
Just watch the pH of you water. Cannabis likes a lower pH (around 5.8 to 6.3). You can get a cheap pH meter, but they need to be cared for. Store the probe in the storage solution and calibrate often. Hannah or Blue Labs are what I'm used to using. When you buffer the pH of a solution, remember the free h ions follow an "S" curve. What this means is adding a drop of pH down when you measure 10.1 may not move that down far (like to 10.0). But if you add a drop of pH down when you measure 7.2, it may drop much faster (like to 4.5).
Light: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Kingbrite-3500K-Samsung-lm301b-Quantum-Board_60804816911.html
Tent: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JN8REQC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Output fan, and filter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CHC2Z1N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
In tent fans. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NFCFSXM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Pots; (This type, in various sizes) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017DLUTPE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Soil ( mix with 30% perlite) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VPXSQZT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Nutes: https://www.amazon.com/Fox-Farm-Liquid-Nutrient-Formula/dp/B00D93NIFY/ref=sr_1_4?crid=267417O1521J2&keywords=fox+farm+nutrients&qid=1570153787&s=lawn-garden&sprefix=fox+f%2Clawngarden%2C188&sr=1-4
Would this combo set up be everything I needed for the inline fan, filter, duct etc. to work with my lighting?
Also, one more thing - I have had one seed between a few damp paper towels and two paper plates. I started that last night at 8pm CST, and still no signs of any sprout showing or any reaction. I have it now soaking in a bit of water. I understand that most of the time you want to soak the seed for 24 hours, but since it was in between the damp paper towels - how long should I let it soak? Or should I just go ahead and plant the seed in the pot? Again much thank you's in advance.
I use a 6" duct inline blower with a vent to the roof.
On the laser itself I have a rectangular to 4" adapter that slots right into the back of the laser (sealed up with aluminum tape), a 4" flex hose, and a 6" to 4" reducer to connect to the blower.
Here you go!
VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter Odor Control with Australia Virgin Charcoal for Inline Fan, Pre-filter Included, Reversible Flange https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DXYMBU6?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Giantex Indoor Grow Tent Room Reflective Mylar Hydroponic Non Toxic Clone Hut 6 Size (32''X32''X63'') https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PXK7ICK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UhVuybY2C4CHS
Roleadro 2nd Generation 600W LED Plant Grow Light Upgraded Full Spectrum Indoor Growing Light with 120pcs 5W Chips https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IVQ96MW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_diVuybHJCV7XV
VIVOSUN 4 Inch 203 CFM Duct Inline Fan with Variable Speed Controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_BiVuybSGHVZTE
Century 24 Hour Heavy Duty Plug-in Mechanical Timer Grounded https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVFF59S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nkVuybNGBW6PS
MacDoDo PH-02 Digital PH Meter Tester Best For Water Aquarium Pool Hot Tub Hydroponics Wine - Push Button Calibration Resolution 0.01 / High Accuracy +/- 0.05 - Large LCD Display - 100% Guaranteed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JOHTMEO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MkVuybZ08V91M
VIVOSUN Pair of 1/8" Adjustable Grow Light Reflector Clip Hanger Rope Ratchet with Zinc Alloy Internal Gears 75lb Each https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P7TZNPQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nlVuyb1Q8670K
This is my setup, my fan is coming in today and my seedlings sprouted this morning. I did quite a bit of research and The light is a little underpowered but I was on a pretty tight budget and can always add more light later.
I spent $40 on seeds and super soil mix from Mephisto genetics, going a more organic route and won't require nutes.
I also spent about $30 on peat moss, perlite, and compost. I already had some ducting and pots.
that's a duct booster. it won't have the power to properly exhaust your tent, especially if you're using that filter. i would look at something more like this. i can't vouch for that fan, but it will be a lot better than the booster.
in terms of pushing or pulling, i've been told it's better to pull through the filter than to push, idk, maybe something to do with how long the carbon will stay effective. i personally have my tent setup to push through mine right now, as the fan is a lot smaller than the filter so i elected to put the filter outside. either works tbh.
Yeah this.
Edit: I hope I didn't come off as rude. I read it a little pissy after I saw my 2 word post. Sorry if it sounded rude.
You can get one of these for the exhaust and turn it to the front of your car.
iPower GLDUCT4X8C 4 inch 8 feet Non-insulated Ducting Aluminum Foil Vent with 2 Clamps https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EPE3XHY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BOQPCb3A41XHT
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06WD58D23
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0791V19H7
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074XBXFPD
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AE11Q44
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000IF23PW
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01J37FI7K
2 x https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XKW7M92
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008X0M4TY
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B018WIOEDA
I have an LACK enclosure with a plastic duct to a window. I used https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W8AHHU6/ for the duct andhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B42G3QN for the variable speed fan.
The fan isn't quiet and uses AC for power.
I'm only printing PLA.
A charcoal filter works for indoor use. I printed this adapter on my ender 3:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2877754
And I ran it through a filter with these things:
It works great for me, and I'm very sensitive to the resin fumes.
I have a duct fan blowing into a carbon filter. It does a great job keeping the smell down.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01DXYMBU6/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1_1_1?smid=A2PQGFJXAT8J9K&psc=1
Not sure I gave the best description, and turns out I ordered from Amazon not Newegg. Below are the two essential components I used. I had some magnets I could use to mount the Fan to the back of the dryer from another project. All in all cost about $30.
Fan:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MZ6T8VF?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
120 mm fan adapter, meant for bitcoin miner:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LXZ8EUG?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
As an example for a smallish grow:
2 x 2 x 4 Tent: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B074H5DKPY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00
Lights: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0752CL6KJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00
Exhaust fan: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01C82SYZ0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00
Ducting: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00EPE3XHY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00
Timer: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MVFF59S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00
Total cost: ~270 CAD
Yeah it's a 6'' ipower fan. I got the filter hanging from the ceiling of the tent with a duct to a 6'' cooltube light, then another duct from the other end of the light going out the tent to the fan, which is sucking the air out of the tent through the light tube. Even with 4 right angles in the ducts it has strong suction
The cool tube is the shit. I have the fan turned all the way down and can hold my palm against the glass under the light and not even feel it. The temp on the floor of the tent is 70-80, the top around 65-70. The humidity goes up when the lights off, but it stays between 30-40%
Parts in scope at the moment are as follows
This is the type of part (https://www.airconcentre.co.uk/manrose+100mm%2f4%22+%27t%27+tee+piece+connector+in+pvc+-+white+/2919142122) that Im desperately trying to find one that can act as the diverter part so I can decide where the hot air goes.
To add onto this, you can get a silencer for it. So put it in a box with that sticking out the end and it should be pretty quiet. For even more sound reduction insulated ducting as well and if you're still having problems idk what to say.
This is my idea buy this unit
Black + Decker BPACT10WT Portable Air Conditioner, 10,000 BTU https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DLPUWG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_rhgmDbH3D8P2D
Run a duct into my tent from my AC unit
iPower GLDUCT4X8C 4 inch 8 feet Non-Insulated Aluminum Foil Vent with 2 Clamps, Ducting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EPE3XHY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fjgmDbSBGP211
Then eventually connect both into one duct and vent out my window
Ideal-Air 736185 Branch, 4x4x4 Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002JLA4PE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3jgmDb3R218GH
Yes, it's illegal to distill alcohol for personal consumption; owning a still is not illegal. The reason I bring the Kingston court case up is because it is treated in much the same way as possession of cannabis in most areas - the courts at large don't care unless you're selling, hence it being an outdated law.
As for home grows being restricted in Colorado - of course they are, that's how the law was written; stating that it's restricted because it's not safe but that renters require permission whereas homeowners do not is arguing false cause. It's basically the same argument for having pets in a rental - some areas allow it by law, some do not (at least in the US); in addition it also give added 'protection' for landlords who are victimized by illegal grow ops. But that's the US and this is Canada.
The reason for flagging illegal grow ops is obvious; if you don't have to worry about living in a place, chances are you don't worry about spreading dirt, water and everything else around, hacking up the wiring and causing a mess. A future buyer has a right to know if there may be water damage or potential future mold issues due to this.
What you're not seeing -again- is the thousands of Canadians who already grow their own and you'd never be the wiser to it. You talk about Colorado having all the "best" equipment for growing, which is completely false. Spend 5 minutes searching the yellowpages of your city and I guarantee you that you will find a Hydroponics center if your city is larger than 50 000 people.
Even still, the Internet brings the very best equipment right to your doorstep and totally private unless a warrant is issued for your financials.
less than 5 minutes on Amazon
http://www.amazon.ca/Aviditi-PTU-70-Reflective-Hydroponic-35-Inch/dp/B008B8BQRE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1406428720&sr=8-2&keywords=grow+tent
http://www.amazon.ca/Hydrofarm-FLCDG125D-125-Watt-Compact-Fluorescent/dp/B001UV6P9I/ref=pd_sim_hi_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=01MWGNJ2TFW85VJ0Z10A
http://www.amazon.ca/iPower-GLFANXINL6FILT6MD25C-6-Inch-25-Feet-Ducting/dp/B00DIIPTHA/ref=pd_sim_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1TK5SZXH60ZRC8HKJ9FH
http://www.amazon.ca/General-GH4120-Hydroponics-WaterFarm-Complete/dp/B001ID8CMG/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1406428847&sr=1-1&keywords=hydroponics
http://www.amazon.ca/FloraNova-7-4-10-One-part-Nutrient-quart/dp/B00KERVR9C/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1406428887&sr=8-5&keywords=hydroponic+nutrients
Combine all of the above with a GFCI outlet and a surge protected power bar and you're all set up to grow with an extremely low risk of water damage or fire. Add a basic small dehumidifier and zero mold. The argument against it due to risk of property damage is silly. You could make the same argument against house plants or home aquariums, try taking away either of those.
Finally, why should we let people grow their own?
Because, if we don't we create yet another class of criminal; Allowing 4-6 plants per adult for personal use is the best way to avoid further criminalizing people - people will do it either way, the surest way to increase risk is to force it underground. If you stomp on people's ability to do for themselves instead of regulating it, bad things happen.
If you're feeling fancy this is what you need: https://smile.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Non-Insulated-Aluminum-Ventilation-Stainless/dp/B01EUURUVM/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=vent+duct&qid=1566424622&s=gateway&sr=8-4
I have two of these:
https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Australia-Charcoal-Pre-filter-Included/dp/B01DXYMBU6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=carbon+filter&qid=1565462105&s=gateway&sr=8-3
It's amazing how well they work... I've had guests over and they can't smell anything until I open the tents to let them have a peek.
Tent link
Light link
Ventilation link
Ducting link
CO2 bag link
Timers link
Extension cords link
Netting link
And a few other things.
I just used something like this that is used for a dryer vent. I picked mine up at a local hardware store, but this is a close match.
I grow 2 plants per crop in a small grow tent, using this light. I also use some 4" ducting with an inline fan and a carbon filter which eliminates the smell during flowering. I just use regular potting soil, and Miracle Gro fertilizer.
In college I used to raw dog it in the closet with just a fluorescent grow light, but when the plants start to flower, they put out an unbelievable amount of smell. It's a nice smell, but here's literally no way to get by with it in an apartment.
I'd also recommend a good grow book, such as Marijuana Horticulture by Cervantes. It will really help diagnose things when something goes wrong.
With this setup I get a yield of over 2 oz cured bud per plant, so each crop is 4+ oz, and I can easily grow 3 crops per year. I get seeds from Herbie's; they ship reliably and discretely. The advantage of buying from a seed bank is that you can get some extremely powerful strains, medical strains, feminized seeds that are guaranteed female, autoflowers, etc.
If you need to do it more cheaply, you can build a r/spacebucket for $100-150 using common hardware store items. The drawback is that you can only grow 1 plant in a spacebucket, and the yield will only be 1-1.5 oz.
I'm not sure if it exists as one unit, but you could always install a couple backflow preventers at the inlets. Here's an example: https://www.amazon.com/Fantech-9800000-RSK-4-Backdraft-Damper/dp/B000CDAFE6
4 of these - you could use cardboard to save more money - $32
1 of these - $5
1 of these - $22
1 of these - $8
Optional: $10 PWM controller for the blower.
So under $50 with cardboard, a bit over $50 with acrylic.
Thanks for the reply! Would something like this work? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0J70/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_utSCCbXTP49Z8
you can also add a duct muffler at the end of your exhaust to reduce noise:
https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-Noise-Reducer-Silencer-Inline/dp/B01CTM0J70/ref=asc_df_B01CTM0J70/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=293000701089&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10214804254630952280&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000903&hvtargid=pla-307736636133&psc=1
Vivosun! Pretty great little fans:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_l9aWBbGG2NW8R
Carbon filter eliminated nearly all odor. I went the first 3 or so weeks without it, then the smell started coming on strong as it was starting to preflower. Bought the filter and it was night and day. Highly suggest it.
Filter
Fan to duct adapter
If the goal is to avoid the fumes, I'd say modify a carbon filter to vent the exhaust through. I've seen several, one going so far to use ducting to attach to a large carbon filter with a 4inch in line fan to draw air through. And then at that point it really won't matter where it is for the most part.
Something like this - amazon link
Along with the likes of this custom exhaust vent along with some standard ducting and a 4" inline fan.
Welcome to growing your own weed. It's the best hobby ever. Thanks for doing some research before asking questions. Let's look at your questions:
> Will this setup let out any smell from the tent?
You will have very minimal, but not absolutely undetectable smell outside the tent. I would expect no smell outside of your 6x12 room. When you open your tent during flower, there will be a strong pleasant fresh weed odor.
> If I had to go out of town for any reason, would the room still function fine with the door and window both closed for 2-3 days? (Assume I would need a dehumidifier and AC unit)
You should be A-OK for 3-4 days unattended with no special arrangements aside from watering before you leave. Yes, you should expect to need a dehumidifier and A/C unit. A window A/C is usually preferable to central air, because it keeps the air in the 6x12 room isolated from the air in the rest of the house.
> Would the setup be too noisy to have in the same room as my computer and spend multiple hours per day sitting next to?
With the fan/blower you linked, yes, it would be pretty noisy. I would suggest you upgrade to this 6" blower/filter and get the speed controller. It makes for smooth, quiet operation on reduced speed.
> Would my microphone (Blue Yeti if relevant) pick up on it?
If you get an oversized blower and run it on reduced speed, it should be quiet enough for you.
> Are the any health risks to myself or my pets by being in the same room as the exhaust for multiple hours per day?
None that we know of.
> The entire setup would likely share a wall outlet with my computer via a 5 outlet adapter, will there be any issues here? (There is another outlet in the room but would either stretch cords across the room or require stringing the cables up)
You need to watch your power budget for sure. You probably have one 15 or 20 amp circuit to that room, which limits you to 1800 or 2400 watts. Your grow tent will eat up 600 watts. A 5000 BTU window A/C uses another 600 watts. That leaves you with 600-1200 watts to run your computer. If you throw a dehumidifier in there, and everything starts running at once, you could start tripping breakers. I would suggest you find out what size circuit is feeding your room. It's going to be close.
> Would this tent height severely limit the number of different strains I could grow?
A taller tent is always better. Especially with the CMH light fixture, which likes a little extra room. If you can get a taller tent, then get it. That said, if your plant training is on point, you can make it work with any strain.
> I could clear off a roughly 2' x 2' area off my desk for trimming and such, will this suffice or will it be too messy?
Yes, you can trim at your desk 2x2 desk. It's a smelly process and the smell can linger for a couple days. If you do it with a fan in the window you can keep odor to a minimum.
> Is drying and curing inside of the tent a viable option to control smell? (Obviously not while I'm growing other plants)
Yes. Most indoor tent growers dry in the tent.
> I'm sure there's some things I'm forgetting right now, but based on my questions and concerns, is it worth getting into growing right now or should I look at getting a bigger space? Thank you for reading this far and for any advice you're able to give!
Growing is not for everyone, but if you have the disposition for it, it's a wonderful, wonderful hobby. If you buy weed regularly it will save you a ton of money. I think you should go for it.
What size is your fan? This is what I am using > https://www.amazon.com/Tinker3D-Antminer-120mm-Cooling-Shroud/dp/B01LXZ8EUG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=22K3AED93J8P8&keywords=antminer+duct&qid=1558032991&s=gateway&sprefix=antminer+duct%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-1
It should yeah. When I got my photon the whole house stank of resin. When I put https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01DXYMBU6 with a fan on my photon the smell basically went away. It’s still faint in the printer room.
Set up was super easy, old port screws right off and you screw the new one right one and then slap on a filter and a fan (any carbon filter should do but here’s what I bought that works well)
VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DXYMBU6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
VIVOHOME 4 Inch 195 CFM Plastic... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HFVTYX?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
And finally some ducting-
iPower GLDUCT4X8C 4 inch 8 feet Non-Insulated Aluminum Foil Vent with 2 Clamps, Ducting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EPE3XHY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CfrZCb6YXV1V7
This really works well for me. The smell otherwise is intolerable. Carbon filters are really amazing.
Here is the filter. It all tucks nicely up top behind the lights.
And this is my first grow so no idea on what it will yield.
It depends what fan you have. If you wanna spend $100 you can get one that’s way quieter. I have this one VIVOSUN 4 Inch 203 CFM Inline Duct... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0H6I?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
With mine you would probably be fine since there’s a door in the way for you. I can’t really hear mine if I go into another room.
https://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLDUCT8X25C-Non-Insulated-Fire-Resistance-Temperature/dp/B00EPE3XII
it all depends on how you're doing it and what you already have.
for me I have a semi flex dryer hose kinda like this one. so I'll get a soft hose like [this one]
(https://www.amazon.com/Dundas-Jafine-BTD48TC-ProFlex-Transition/dp/B0015UGPWQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496271613&sr=8-2&keywords=dryer+hose) and splice it in with something like this and duct tape. This will go inline and serve as the exhausting force. This is how it will mount to the printer enclosure. I haven't settled on any of these parts especially the backdraft damper as I need it to seal reasonably well, but something like this.
the other thing to consider is when to vent. for PLA you can vent the whole time which is easier. But for things like ABS you don't want to vent all the time or you'll lose the ambient heat. So you'll vent after it's done. At first I didn't think this would be an issue but after reading this and the concern with ultrafines I have to reconsider. If the fines settle while it's printing then exhausting after will only minimise the airborne stuff, but opening the box and removing the print could stir up settled pollutants. Perhaps I need an internal fan to stir up the settled fines and get them to exhaust.
This might be overkill for some people. I have pets and kids and safety is something that is important to me as I've spent a good portion of my working life dealing with potentially hazardous materials and environments.
If you have a window near your printer you could just use an AC window vent.
I also live in an apartment. I've got a Photon, I used my Ender 3 to print this vent adapter and attached 4" dryer duct and an inline fan to it and vented it outside. Luckily my place is kind of dumpy, and I have a piece of plywood in the space that's left from my window AC, since I have sliding windows.
Honestly, the smell of isopropyl tends to be worse.
At my company we have huge vent dampeners.. quick search brings up smaller ones for online vents.. should be simple to make in house as its basically just a tube lined with eggshell foam. Claims 50% noise reduction..
VIVOSUN 6 Inch Noise Reducer Silencer for Inline Duct Fan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0J70/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_GQkVDb27J17MQ
If you look at the last 2 images here, you can see my filter and setup here http://imgur.com/a/TUFMf
This is the exact fan/filter that I got http://www.amazon.com/iPower-GLFANXINL6FILT6MD25C-6-Inch-25-Feet-Ducting/dp/B00DIIPTHA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1450463821&sr=8-5&keywords=carbon+filter+6%22
Also added a fan controller so it wasnt running at 100% all the time http://www.amazon.com/Hydrobuilder-HBVFSC-Variable-Speed-Controller/dp/B00BLOSG7I/ref=pd_sim_86_80?ie=UTF8&dpID=41idj0MShKL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0FBPXDHCDMHF1K8SQ2AR
Nope I own the one your talking about I believe.
VIVOSUN 4 Inch 203 CFM Inline Duct Ventilation Fan with Variable Speed Controller https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_E5BSAbG6PBC7B
They have another that was 10$ more then this one that I couldn't figure out the difference of. But the controller is built into the cable no installation needed.
Weird, your page looks a lot different than mine but its the same fan.
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Variable-Speed-Controller/dp/B01CTM0H6I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516814367&sr=8-1&keywords=vivosun%2B4%2Binch&th=1&psc=1
Thanks for all of your help man, I'll be thinking of you when I get this beast set up.
Here's one VIVOSUN 6 Inch Noise Reducer Silencer for Inline Duct Fan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTM0J70/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MXYyyb87PWV9H
I have something like this
iPower 6 Inch 442 CFM Inline Fan, with 6 Inch Carbon Filter and 25 feet duct combo, 2 clamps included, grow tent ventilation system https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIIPTHA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_86EGzbRJKFNEW
I could always take the filter off and mount the pipe on the ceiling and run it out the basement window?
This is exactly what I'm planning to do. Do you have a filter that you would recommend? I'm considering this one.
Shopping list;
AmazonBasics 6-Outlet Surge Protector Power Strip, 6-Foot Long Cord, 790 Joule - White https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00TP1C1UC/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_H4B1DbVABEKV0
VIVOSUN 4 inch Inline Duct Booster Fan 100 CFM, Extreme Low Noise & Extra Long 5.5' Grounded Power Cord https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01C82SYZ0/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_33B1DbZQFHVBT
VIVOSUN 4 Inch Air Carbon Filter Odor Control with Australia Virgin Charcoal for Inline Fan Pre-Filter Included https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01DXYMBU6/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_D3B1DbXZRD3RS
Hydrofarm TM01015D Dual Outlet Grounded Timer https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B001Q1FZWA/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_.2B1Db0WE33FY
LED Lights Strip 5M 5050 SMD Waterproof 150LEDs RGB Color Changing Flexible LED Light Strip Kit https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07B5Z2Y34/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_H2B1Db47ZRW0K
COB LED Grow Light, Niello Full Spectrum Grow Lights for Indoor Plants, Higher Light-Gathering, Space Saving and Easy to Install, Professional Greenhouse Hydroponic Indoor Plants(150W) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07DJ5WZQD/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_M0B1DbJMFAJ20
Not included; tin tape, duct tape, 2" curved pvc tubes x3, zip ties, hot glue, and the Rubbermaid wheeled bin + lid.
Have my grow in my bedroom and this muffler worked perfect.
I would also look at ac infinity fans. Quite possibly the quietest inline fan I've ever heard.
VIVOSUN 6 Inch Noise Reducer Silencer for Inline Duct Fan https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01CTM0J70/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_x34QCb07X1P45
understood. Does this filter/fan kit look sufficient for 6 orso plants? Or do you think I should invest in better?
https://www.amazon.com/iPower-Inline-Carbon-Ducting-Ventilation/dp/B00DIGJZ54/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525581680&sr=8-1&keywords=filter%2Band%2Bfan%2Bkit&th=1
Should I use 4 inch or 6 inch? I see 6 is most widespread, probably for a reason.
You could get this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F6BL11U/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1484578858&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=inline+duct+fan&dpPl=1&dpID=41FrUZOvkKL&ref=plSrch and this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EPE3XHY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484578916&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=4+inch+duct&dpPl=1&dpID=5139MLHSyHL&ref=plSrch and use your imagination
I got this one and love it. Much quieter than my last one and no light leaks out
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B0791V19H7/ref=ppx_yo_mob_b_track_package_o1_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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|318.366|212.244|530.61|385.44
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possible to replace or modify|32G Wheeled Trash Can|20|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B071CZ4BWD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
fabric bags also work|Air-Pruning Pot|13.98|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BFISHS2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Mylar Blankets|6.69|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GLCYR5S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
NSN|Velcro tape|16.49|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B007OXK330/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Plant Ties|7.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B071CZ4BWD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Happy Frog Soil|11.95|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01508YKY8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|FoxFarm Trio|33.95|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D93NIFY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Fem Blue Dream Seed|23.68|https://www.seedsupreme.com/blue-dream-feminized-seeds-20604.html|
|2 Free Fem Seeds|0| |
|pH control & testing kit|18.5|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BNKWZY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05__o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
not strictly necessary (NSN)|Submersible pump|7.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EWENKXO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
NSN|2Liter bladder|12.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B075RWCXWZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
NSN|Clear Tubing|7.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W6W10TK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
NSN|tubing switch|7.95|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L45TLPK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
NSN|Funnel|10.96|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OKXZL8O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Humidity & Temp Sensor|12.82|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013BKDO8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
NSN|Rechargeable AAs|13.8|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JHKSN76/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Inline Fan|17.95|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CQBFOTS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Carbon filter|33.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CJ5D4AG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Ducting hose|10.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B076S6KHB4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|ArcMyn Vent|14.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0793HH4GD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|Axial Fan|11.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B009OWRMZ6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
NSN|Fan Speed controller|17.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B6VV6GL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
|HGL 100w|149|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C59J8L2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
NSN|Smart Power Strip|32.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C1ZSCYV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
may keep for lights, might get rid of it.|Light Timer|12.99|https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MVF16JG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1|
Just for reference, I also found this cheaper 25' ducting you might be interested in. Approx. $15. 4" though.
I can leave my grow room open at all times if needed, and have push the air back into the hallway. I could also run the bathroom fan in the adjacent room to help pull out that air. Great idea me!
One question, when you say "hydro grow"... what is the difference between growing 3 autoflower's indoors and it being a "hydro grow"?
I bought this set up here iPower GLFANXINL6FILT6MD25C
I also have one small intake fan in the port on the bottom and I am exhausting out the port on top of the tent out my grow room window.
Do you notice how the tube florescent on the right hand side of this image Imgur looks like it comes out of the tent I meant to do that, reason being is when I have the exhaust running even at half speed the negative pressure sucks in the slack in the tent walls decreasing my grow area. With the light jammed in there the negative pressure cant suck the walls in.
It was either this or spend more money on a bigger intake fan.
 
This set up utilizing the negative pressure makes it real easy to regulate your RH and Ambient temps.
I have no problem keeping my RH at a steady 40% and my AT @ 72-78 Fahrenheit, the only bitch was hanging the damn thing!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CTM0H6I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522434096&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=4in+inline+fan&dpPl=1&dpID=517%2B2qeoicL&ref=plSrch
This looks more like what I see people using. How's the brand?
This is just a cheap one-speed 8" duct fan, I used pipe clamps to attach it to the flexible duct hose. I suppose I could find some way to electrically reduce the fan speed. It's probably easier to adjust the air volume by reducing the output end. I made a rather clever air valve to prevent outdoor winds from blowing back in the output end of the tube, so I can easily restrict the output. I know this will work because already had to open it up a bit since the first test was restricted too much. I don't think this will hurt the fan since it won't run for very long.
I built the vent (a little box with the filter attached) so I could easily reposition it inside the large booth. I might try putting it on the side, so I don't have to spray directly over the air draw.
Thanks for your suggestions. I'm going to test it out more today.
this one is great, high quality and all you can hear is it moving a lot of air.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CTM0H6I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481517924&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=vivosun+203
[Here] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M0N30QC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) are 5" shrouds in stock on amazon in case you wanted them.
I'm just going to assume running an air conditioner or cooling device is out of the question. There are ways to lower temperature without necessarily increasing energy consumption. You can try using some ducting to move the hot air out of the room where you keep your miner. Take a look at these HERE. Simply detach the fan on the rear of the S9 and screw those on. You can even use the same screws the S9 came with. Then attach some ducting, maybe something like THIS, and you can take the hot hair away from the machine.
If that is not an option, I would consider not running the machines during the day. If you have to run hot machines, you want to stay under 100°C. You do not want to run them to the point where they can reach the 115°C automatic shut off point. If they automatic shut off you are almost guaranteed to have fried chips.
I ended up going with this fan and this filter hopefully their good enough for my 2x2 space
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of, except a backdraft one so you don't have to manually open and close it. There's spring loaded ones that only let air through one way, and close automatically when there's no air pressure in that direction.
Just butting the end of the duct against the outside of the return air filter would eliminate the need for an extra filter. You might need to flip/ replace the HVAC filter more often though because that one spot would probably get dirty faster.
Now that I think about it though, you'd probably need to leave the HVAC fan on in between heating/cooling cycles; otherwise the pressure would increase as the unit comes on, and then normalize after it shuts off.
You should be able to pull that metal part down to get better reach on it.
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Go to your home improvement store and buy a new hose, you want a more metal looking one.
It should come with 4" hose clamps that screw to tighten them.
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https://www.amazon.com/iPower-Non-Insulated-Aluminum-Ventilation-included/dp/B00EPE3XHY/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=dryer+hose&qid=1563120074&s=gateway&sr=8-3
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It is much easier to tighten these hose clamps with a nut driver or nut.