Best thermal images according to redditors

It's nowhere close to that expensive anymore. You can find them closer to $250 at various places online. The iPhone version of the Seek is $260 on Amazon right now.

You can also get other smart phone thermal cameras like the FLIR ONE for even less than the Seek.

thermal caméra put in on a vr goggle and welcome night vision goggle

They look like this: https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Thermal-Reveal-Imaging-Camera/dp/B017NN0HQS

You could probably just buy one yourself if you want a fun toy to play with.

The question in Kyllo is whether the device is in general public use.

On one hand the article does not indicate that this device is in general public use: It doesn't say it is; it's expensive -- $6,000; it appears to be more complicated and sophisticated than the typical thermal imaging tools; it does not appear to be sold to regular folk; and it seems to have been developed through the military.

On the other hand, it may be quite similar to the thermal imaging tools you were referring to: This one on Amazon goes for $4,000 (http://www.amazon.com/FLIR-Systems-E40bx-KIT-Compact-Infrared-Thermal/dp/B00NR8FH6Y/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1421745390&sr=8-7&keywords=thermal+imaging+tool), just $2,000 less than this one. If anything, the one on Amazon appears to go further because it actually shows the body's heat signature. This one, if I'm not mistaken, only let's you know that someone is inside. So an argument can be made that it's not even as intrusive as what is available for general public use.

And of course, even if a similar device is being sold on Amazon, one can argue that it's still not general public use. Seems like it can go either way. If this technology was on every iPhone, that would push more strongly in favor of being in general public use. It seems the average person isn't spending $4,000 on a thermal imaging device, even if it's technically available on the internet.

Obviously this is not legal advice.

My understanding is that one of the biggest issues with mobile homes is proper insulation. I suggest renting or buying a thermal gun type thing to see where your biggest offenders are. Check attic too, likely skimped there.

https://www.amazon.com/Resolution-Infrared-Included-Lightweight-Comfortable/dp/B07MGZP12J/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=Thermal+gun+screen&qid=1574950516&sr=8-7

here’s one popular iphone model: Seek Thermal Compact Imager for iOS-Apple https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NYWABAA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_H-R7Bb4WQW4XH

I have a plaster and Lath walls. I got a Thermal Camera and used that to see the studs when I hung a heavy TV on the wall.

Yea well Amazon pricing fluctuates, so retail vs sale is a tough metric. The $150-160 price was the big sale, but they frequently drop below the $200 mark. Regardless my point was price of these thermal things is getting quite low compared to where they were 2-3 years ago. Went from a 500-600 dollar investment to try to justify down into the "cool toy" range.

Andriod one:

http://camelcamelcamel.com/Seek-Thermal-Compact-Imager-Android/product/B00NYWAHHM



iOS one:

http://camelcamelcamel.com/Seek-Thermal-Compact-Imager-iOS-Apple/product/B00NYWABAA

The article didn't outline how the money would be spent and used to curb drug smuggling. It basically just stated he is going to expand a border strike task force. $31.5 millions seems like a lot of money for a strike force. Wonder where the rest of the money is going...



"After those efforts helped make the border more secure, immigration shifted east — evidence of what is sometimes called the “balloon effect.” Total border control apprehensions have decreased in Arizona by about 45 percent since 2011, to 70,074 in 2015, and increased in Texas by about 44 percent to 210,468."

"Worried about the border, the Arizona Legislature in 2011 started raising money to be used to expand the state’s border fencing. That effort failed, but lawmakers last year awarded Dannels $219,000 it had collected from private donors, to be used to help the county track down illegal immigrants and smugglers. Most of the money will be spent on a $156,000 thermal binocular, which can be used to detect body heat in the distance. The rest will pay for six handheld thermal cameras, binoculars, handheld GPS and a scope."
so they raised $200K and bought one pair of thermal binocular? I would be very interested in seeing the difference one pair of this $156K binocular is against the $300 Iphone thermal imager:
http://smile.amazon.com/Seek-CompactXR-Extended-Thermal-Imager/dp/B00SSZ5KPY/ref=sr_1_3?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1459283923&sr=1-3&keywords=thermal+binoculars

or
this $3K thermal scope
http://smile.amazon.com/Armasight-Predator-Thermal-Imaging-336x256/dp/B00TMAGCEC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_421_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41-j75GxWDL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=03GVT08SS26JGRT8XJDR

I am just a homeowner but bought a seek thermal attachment for my iPhone - it was $218. If i were a pro and the ROI was there I would definitely be looking at a FlIR, but if your use case fits within the performance envelope (or for other non pro subs like me) , I have found for the price, it to be very useful in finding hot water lines in my walls, insulation gaps, air leaks, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Thermal-Compact-Imager-iOS-Apple/dp/B00NYWABAA/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1549291572&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=seek+thermal+camera&psc=1

It is! Example (leaky front door): http://imgur.com/B65sYfy.jpg

Anyway this is what I have: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NYWAHHM/

It was $195 when I got it, looks like the price has gone up a hair.

Fingerprint readers work on the deceased...

Iphone thermal imaging camera $250...

Rechargeable heated thermal baselayers $300...

[Rechargeable pocket speaker with internal memory to simulate sounds of breathing/heartbeat....]
(https://www.amazon.com/Haoponer-Portable-Digital-Display-Porcelain/dp/B010A5P5WM/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_rp_c_0_2/146-5740424-2101960?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B010A5P5WM&pd_rd_r=bfba0281-3f0e-47d6-9894-4cd539554ba5&pd_rd_w=3nTBv&pd_rd_wg=hX0XZ&pf_rd_p=144c9400-e7ab-4127-a834-816f6410c5df&pf_rd_r=KG5E9B7CGVAPXG4HN0FS&psc=1&refRID=KG5E9B7CGVAPXG4HN0FS)

That's not meant to be definitive, it's just an example that for every tech problem, there's a tech solution. If that sort of thing became a common enough problem, some neonate would probably invent a technique/combo-discipline that simulated all the life functions for very little blood cost for a night.

Ultimately, it's up to the Storyteller to set the tone. They can just as easily handwave tech problems as they can run a game of ever escalating James Bond Gadgets. Tell whatever story is enjoyable for the ST and players. It doesn't have to be a "reality" simulation.

We're dealing with a similar problem (water coming out a light fixture in our dining room that's below the sliding glass door to the balcony). We haven't solved it yet (it hasn't rained enough again for us to see the path of the water), but one thing we got that seems promising is an infrared camera that attaches to a phone. This is the one we have: https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Thermal-Compact-All-Purpose-MicroUSB/dp/B00NYWAHHM

https://smile.amazon.com/Seek-Thermal-Compact-Imager-Android/dp/B00NYWAHHM/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1543241356&sr=8-17&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=flir+thermal+imaging+camera

And it's on sale.

wouldn't be hard to bullshit into existence, either. seek thermal made a smartphone infrared camera attachment that is, relative to most other thermal imagers, dirt cheap. wouldn't be hard to mount that onto goggles, get some redneck thermal imaging headsets going.

https://www.amazon.com/FLIR-One-Thermal-Imager-For/dp/B0728C7KND/ref=pd_ybh_a_23?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ZA9FV783GHAVTT16M719

MAKE SURE YOU CHECK ANDROID OR IOS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quite a few reasonably inexpensive thermal image attachments for cell phones on the market that cut the cost significantly over all in one solutions. Maybe not quite to the point of buying it just for giggles, but easily justifiable from a business standpoint.

Seek Thermal

or

FLIR One

Buy a seek thermal camera for your phone (make sure to buy the correct one for your phone, also you can knock $100 off the price by going used/reboxed), and go around looking for holes in your house, sealing them with a caulk gun. Make sure you buy the COMPACT, because it actually works better for this task, whereas the XR is more for spotting deer half a mile away but sucks at 10'. Alternatively, you can rent a thermal imager at big orange for $60 for 4 hours...

This might seem expensive to solve a little spider problem, but what you are really doing is improving the energy efficiency of your home by a ton. It's easier to see cracks when the temperature difference is large, like when it's very hot and you have the A/C on, or it's very cold and you have the heat on.

If you seal all these holes, the only place I'd put any Permethrin is around the cold air intake inside your home (or where it leads outside, or both). It looks like a 4" to 6" flexible hose with a u-bend coming into your furnace room. This should have a lot of free air flow, so don't put a screen over it or plug it, doing so could cause carbon monoxide poisoning as the furnace burns up all the oxygen in your home. If you really hate the air-intake, you can get an air-to-air heat exchanger for a few grand.

I've purchased those in the past and was disappointed with the results. I don't think it is worth slapping onto a nexus 7. You mention IR filters in a reply. You need a special sensor to get an IR image beyond what is found in most mobile devices. There's this:

https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Thermal-Compact-Imager-Android/dp/B00NYWAHHM

But, it's a pricey bit of tech.

you can rent a thermal imager from home depot in brooklyn or buy this http://www.amazon.com/Seek-Compact-Thermal-Imager-Android/dp/B00NYWAHHM

Thermal cameras are decently inexpensive when paired with a phone.

Based on the watermark, I would assume he has a consumer device like this: https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Thermal-Compact-Imager-Android/dp/B00NYWAHHM

Maybe it's this thingy? https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Thermal-Compact-Imager-Android/dp/B00NYWAHHM

I just bought a FLIR C2 for that same reason. I have lots of leaks and a basement I am slowly insulating.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9RANUC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I'd buy or rent one of these, turn on circuits, pull off cover panels on junction boxes and look for hot spots.

FLIR is a brand, a thermal camera is what you want. FLIR makes a mobile phone attachable units, but I personally went with the Seek brand and have been happy with it.

(I bought this model for $168 but it has gone up drastically since then. I'm guessing there's a newer model that is in the same price range?)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NYWAHHM

As another user suggested I’d get a FLIR cam and see exactly where heat loss is occurring. You can get ones fairly cheap that connect to a smart phone.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NYWAHHM/

Seek Thermal Camera

It won't have the clarity of the picture you posted, but it'll give you an idea.

I would not be surprised if this still happened but this practice was outlawed in the US in 2001 by US Supreme Court decision under the 4th Amendment as an illegal search.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States

The problem now was that since infrared cameras were not commonly used in the late 1990's by the public when the bust was made in the case that the search would be "presumptively unreasonable". Today thermal cameras for a phone starts around $200 and are becoming popular.

https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Compact-Thermal-Imager-Android/dp/B00NYWAHHM

A few thousand watts can still be reasonably hidden if the exhaust from the lights is vented underneath the house if one were that paranoid. It's really not an issue for small to medium sized grows.

Here you go.

Thermal optics are now $200

http://amazon.com/dp/B00NYWAHHM

The FLIR One is upcoming as well, probably for a similar sort of price.

OK. For the moment, I'll tenatively sit corrected.

It's got good and OK ratings and that's for the old camera.

https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Compact-Thermal-Imager-Android/dp/B00NYWAHHM

The rest of my original comment is below:


Yeah, but the resolution sucks ass. What is good though is that it overlays the image onto the traditional video signal, so this helps to get more information into the area of interest.

One thing that you all can do to see what I mean when I say, "the resolution sucks ass," is to rent a FLIR from Home Depot's tool rental department about 1 hour before closing and then keep it all night, and return it 1 hour after they open. That should cost you about 45 bucks and get you a few hours where you can see how effective the IR is at a distance and how big the sensor size is.

http://www6.homedepot.com/tool-truck-rental/Thermal_Camera/FLIR_i7/

Now granted, Home Depot rents the Model # FLIR_i7, which has a 120 x 120 pixel (yes, that's right) sensor on this $2,500.00 unit.

This is not a 500 dollar unit, it's 2500 dollars. A 500 dollar unit would have to do some serious tricks to be better than one that sells for 5x more and even then, even though the article says it has a 320 x 240 sensor, my impression is that it's not likely that it would be much better than 120x120 (most interpolate to get higher resolution) be or any good at a distance.

Here's hoping that I am 100% wrong.

Caveat emptor.

Get a cheap infrared gun

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-TLD100-Thermal-Detector/dp/B0044R87BE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1523027992&sr=8-4&keywords=thermal+camera&dpID=41D4F0G9jaL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

or a thermal camera for your phone

https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Thermal-XR-Imager-iOS-Apple/dp/B00SSZ5KPY/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1523027992&sr=8-13&keywords=thermal+camera

But more than likely, one of your windows is not sealing tightly.

New ones Flir ONE PRO Android USB-C £450 or FLIR C3 £560 The FLIR one pro being better resolution (they use the phone which cuts down costs)

It's if you're going up to say the T6XX (640x360 vs 160x120) then the price jumps. For a survey, looking for major heat loses and an additional to add, do you need that level?

Investing in a moderately priced IR camera could save you thousands of dollars in the future. Or rent one.

Things such as drafts or poor insulation is hard to see with the naked eye. I have a room in my new construction house that's super hot in the summer super cold in the winter. Turns out it's missing a bunch of insulation. Would have had the builder fix it if I caught it before my 1 yr warranty was up.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00T9RANUC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502654427

Maybe I worded the question wrong, I'm referring to something like this
https://www.amazon.com/FLIR-TG165-Spot-Thermal-Camera/dp/B00NXJDQV0?crid=3NNBQ07R4891L&keywords=flir+165&qid=1538133418&sprefix=flir+165&sr=8-4&ref=mp_s_a_1_4
I'll check out the seek brand as well

I can imagine the USB socket busting off the phone mounted ones under actual use.

Thanks for the recommendation! I'll have to get one of these things.

Amazon.com links

TG130 - $199 USD, no image capture [https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01ALSO84E/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501424183&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=FLIR%2Btg130&dpPl=1&dpID=41oghPRgdOL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01ALSO84E/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501424183&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=FLIR%2Btg130&dpPl=1&dpID=41oghPRgdOL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1)

TG165 - $349 USD, save images to SD card https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NXJDQV0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501424183&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=FLIR%2Btg130&dpPl=1&dpID=41oghPRgdOL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

At this point, there are roughly three categories:

• The really nice ones, which are extremely expensive and fairly delicate (for example, FLIR's 1020 has a 1024x768 thermal sensor, and costs $44K).
  
• The "workhorse" ones, which are fairly expensive, and well ruggedized. If you're building a piece of equipment that costs a few thousand dollars, and is going to be used outdoors, on a job site, etc., making it a few hundred dollars more expensive to improve durability is a very good trade-off. This is where you get things like the FLIR E-series, which costs a few thousand USD (depending on version), and has some serious rubber padding around everything important.
  
• Consumer-grade ones. This includes things from a couple hundred dollars for a phone add-on, such as the Seek Thermal one; I would also include things like the FLIR TG 165 due to its price-point. There's also the Cat S60, which sticks the same FLIR Lepton sensor into a smartphone.
  
  The bottom category is how most of us with thermal systems to mess around with have them.

Or spend a mere $180 on amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NYWAHHM

If you are still interested in the camera I took a risk on this one because of the thread. The case is actually separate so in the box you get the seek camera and a separate case for it for 140 bucks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F1Z2PTC/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1486306490&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=seek+camera&dpPl=1&dpID=31e5nsjDN5L&ref=plSrch

I am pretty sure that /u/Yareaaeray is correct, but you could verify this with a thermal imaging camera:

https://www.amazon.com/FLIR-TG165-Spot-Thermal-Camera/dp/B00NXJDQV0

Ah, I see what the issue is, I looked and mine is actually another brand: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NYWABAA/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_BJWBCbXC2J4SF
Sorry for mis-statement
Like I said, when I bought mine, the handhelds were really expensive, like $500-1,000 and I think this was on sale for <$150. It did not have good battery life with my (rather old and failing phone, which had loads of battery issues so it was hard to tell what was at fault) BUT, on the other hand, even as a bee remover, I found that you only needed it for a minute tops, you snap a few pics, send to customer and that is all you need. I hear you on the port type. If I was buying again, I might do the handheld, but on the other hand my mentor had a lot of trouble with his very expensive handheld having problems later in its life, so maybe it is six of one half a dozen of the other. That reminds me, I have to check and see if my new phone is gonna work with the old heat camera! Swarm season is starting...

http://www.amazon.com/Seek-UW-AAA-Thermal-Imaging-Connector/dp/B00NYWAHHM

and this thing

http://www.amazon.com/FLIR-ONE-Thermal-Imager-iPhone/dp/B00K0PXFB6

I just searched for 'flir'

I was going to go with the $999 standalone version but it has issues. I got the 5s version for now but they are coming up with new products and might show stuff at CES 2015. They were offering $100 discount on that iPhone case. I have an old iPhone that I test apps on, so I thought why not put it to good use.

I first ordered Seek for Android (http://www.amazon.com/Seek-UW-AAA-Thermal-Connector-Black/dp/B00NYWAHHM/) but returned it for a FLIR

Aww jeez, Rick. That doesn't look good. I think the technical term for that is "cratered".

My guess would honestly be that the chip itself overheated due to the high current. This is a problem for a heatsink and maybe a fan. I hesitate to say this though, because both the trace AND the chip are utterly destroyed. Maybe a bad solder joint on the chip caused it to overheat?

Are you willing to sacrifice another channel of that board? Might be worth hooking up a stepper in such a way that it's permanently stalled and just running it until it pops, while carefully monitoring the board's temperature. You should at the very least be able to tape down a thermocouple with kapton, and they sell cheap dual K-type thermocouples with a digital readout on Amazon. I've personally had this one to over 700C, and while it DEFINITELY didn't like it and the insulation burned up, it still works. The best solution here is definitely a thermal camera, and if you can afford it you'll be able to pinpoint where the heat is coming from - the traces or the chip.

A good experiment would be to get a thermometer or thermal camera, and hook up one channel with a heatsink and one without. Monitor both chip's temperatures and see how hot they get, again with the motor stalled. The A4983 is supposed to be good to 150C before it detonates according to the datasheet, although it definitely won't be performing well at that temperature. If you see it getting close (within 20C or so) of that temperature, it's likely just not dissipating enough heat.

Would be very interested to see the redesign, if you decide to do one. If you haven't yet read Dave Jones' PCB layout tutorial, I suggest you do. Lots of really great information there, particularly about making your circuit boards neat and professional, not just so they work.

Minor edit: just thinking about the traces, remember that the ACTUAL current can be much higher than intended when you're working with motors or other large inductive loads. A "2A" limit can turn into 20A if something causes a large acceleration on the motor (like a robotic arm hitting a stop and stalling). That'll fry your trace if you specced it for 2A. Make the power traces big and fat. Bigger. Unless you're squeezing the other traces thinner (not just closer), you can go very large with your power traces. You're paying a flat rate for the amount of copper on the board, use it all. Don't squeeze out the ground plane (it's just as important) and don't squeeze the other traces too thin, but if there's any feel free to use it.

Hey Morty, it's a seek thermal camera for phone. Recommended by u/amateursparky

Seek Thermal Compact-All-Purpose Thermal Imaging Camera for Android USB-C https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RQ3J27Y/

One of the better investments.

Not sure how well it'd work for breaks, a contactless tracer and megatester might work better? Great for drilling through heated floors or tile repair though. Can also spot studs through the walls..

Ours ran $185, which is about as cheap as they get. It's not absolutely awful, but still high for a niche device.

EDIT: For those curious, this is the one we use. Cheapest we could get with decent functionality, works rather respectably for our purposes.

An infared camera would make it easy to tell!

Only $500 on Amazon :)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T9RANUC/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i57YBbXAS5N8W