Best playstation 4 consoles according to redditors

Costs for the starting, complete virtual reality package that includes the headset, audio, 2 motion controllers, and the platform:

(Complete here means full headset tracking, motion controllers for hand tracking, and some sort of headphone solution for audio)

|Oculus Rift | HTC Vive | Playstation VR
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Platform | $850 PC | $850 PC | $350 PS4
Headset | $600 | $800 | $400
Controllers | $??? | $0 | $60 ($30x2)
Tracking | $0 | $0 | $45
Audio | $0 | $0 | $0
Total | $1450+++ | $1650+ | $875+

* For HTC Vive and PSVR earbud alternatives, headphones have a lot of price variation. Depending on the brands you get, generally the more you pay for your audio, the better your virtual reality audio experience will be. My virtual reality headphone-type (open, closed, in-ear, etc.) breakdown can be found here. I also highly recommend looking at Head-Fi's price recommendation list for good ideas on headphones to consider purchasing.

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Quick, cheap PC with minimum Rift/Vive specifications that includes everything as if you're starting from absolutely nothing.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pjHGsY

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor | $189.99
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $56.99
Memory | Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $28.99
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.89
Video Card | XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card | $282.14
Case | Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case | $35.12
Power Supply | EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $49.99
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) | $89.92
Monitor | HP V193b 60Hz 18.5" Monitor | $69.99
Keyboard | Fellowes 9892901 Wired Standard Keyboard | $5.37
Mouse | V7 M30P20-7N Wired Optical Mouse | $4.71
| Total | $863.10

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You can cut costs further by removing keyboard, mouse, monitor, and perhaps finding a way to get a discount on the operating system. You can also change the case, or the storage for something cheaper. You may be able to lower the power supply, but I don't recommend it. If you remove the OS, monitor, keyboard, and mouse, you can cut about $160 off.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MjHGsY

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor | $189.99
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $56.99
Memory | Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $28.99
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.89
Video Card | XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card | $282.14
Case | Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case | $35.12
Power Supply | EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $49.99
| Total | $693.11

Technically, he got it for 16.71% of $20 which is about $3.34.

Assuming the PS4 to cost $358.95 as displayed on Amazon and Battlefront to cost $59.99.

If you're going to jerk about consoles, at least get your fucking information right.


Consoles are NOT $400 anymore. At most, $350 for a new one. PS4 $349 [Xbox One S $299](
https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-500GB-Console/dp/B01GW3GY3K/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1466543769&sr=1-9&keywords=xbox+one) Wii U $299




5 games will cost $300 if you don't have GCU or Amazon Prime and buy new releases, shit. I could pre-order 5 games now on Amazon and it'll be less than $250.


What the fuck kind of accessories are you buying that'll equal $100 - 200? I bought a fucking stand and another controller and a usb extension cable. Under $100. Double digits motherfucker.



Yep. Uh huh. 1 year is totally $150.

That build is $374. You can get a PS4 with Uncharted 4 on Amazon right now for $269, over $100 less. https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/

You could argue online functionality though PlayStation Plus is entirely optional. But now that the cost of that is being brought up, I may as well point out that that build has no mouse, keyboard, controller or other input device factored in. Whereas PS4s at least come with a DualShock 4.

Amazon has it also.

Cheaper? They both cost around $250.

PS4

Xbox

In fact, the PS4 is actually $5 cheaper than the Xbox One.

> So why buy a XBox if you can play the exact same games on the cheaper Playstation 4?

FTFY

Right Now, Amazon has the PS4 Pro w/ RDR2 available for Pre-order for $400, releasing on 10/26.

So, depending on how soon "coming up" is, it might work out...

Otherwise you're giving a lovely bit of anticipation, AND a gift.

$200 is the official MSRP this week. I imagine you can get the PS4 Slim for that price anywhere today.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-playstation4-1tb-console-black/5850905.p?skuId=5850905

https://www.target.com/p/playstation-174-4-1tb-console/-/A-52416598#lnk=sametab

https://www.toysrus.com/product?productId=130463446

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-1TB-Console/dp/B071CV8CG2/?th=1

PlayStation 4 Slim 1TB Console - Marvel's Spider-Man Bundle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HHW8C4V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_23H7BbFMXRNXA

Release date states November 18.

PSA: Gold Slim just became available for pre-order on Amazon. Release day delivery available. I just preordered one w/ 2 yr warranty for like $16$.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0716XFVBP/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Don't even have to leave the couch loool

Pre order from Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-playstation-4-500gb-batman-arkham-knight-limited-edition-bundle-gunmetal/6128146.p?id=1219658465452&skuId=6128146

Thanks to /u/BigBoss9293 for posting the link.

Edit: Amazon pre ordering now available!
Limited Edition console
Bundle

Maybe in spring, but this comes with 1 year of psplus as well


It's also on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRLJV28/ref=s9_simh_hd_bw_b710gst_p63_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-1&pf_rd_r=3N7CSBFZC480Q88BXG50&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=04a5c22f-e81b-50bd-ab92-d44ae8c8f7f5&pf_rd_i=6427871011

The PS4 1TB model is 199USD(280SGD) with free shipping from amazon.

Amazon's "Prime Now" app/website has the $200 1TB PS4 in stock, though you have to live in an eligible area/zip code and also have Amazon Prime.

Another option is Walmart/GameStop/Best Buy/Target etc, they should have more units in stock for Cyber Monday hopefully.

Source: https://primenow.amazon.com/dp/B071CV8CG2

Have fun constantly upgrading hardware and

Have fun updating software

This table seems to be missing targets 15% off everything in store and online for monday, as well as amazon ps4 slim https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480344580&sr=1-2&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Amazon now has the white ps4 pro destiny bundle deal for $349.99
Best ps4 pro deal so far!

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B073RTKFY4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511430009&sr=8-2&keywords=ps4+pro+white

Hey fellow Canadians, Amazon.ca has the same bundle for $339 here.

It might be a pricing error so I'd jump on this ASAP.

A mi me parece muy bien el precio del ps4 slim en amazon mexico: $5,389.00 https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B01M0RU6LY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AVDBXBAVVSXLQ

I wonder if she’s the trash selling it for $300

PlayStation 4 Slim 1TB Console - Marvel's Spider-Man Bundle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HHW8C4V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_om29Bb74236AV

PS4 Uncharted bundle $269

This is a 1TB console, btw. I'd jump on this if it came with a game. The 500gb Slim is same price and comes with Uncharted 4. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRLJV28/

Remember to use Amazon Smile and help whatever charity you want.

Same deal for $199:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071CV8CG2/

Brand new or guaranteed working used one. I mean, these shits is getting cheap as fuuuuck

PS4 Slim/Uncharted 4 Bundle is currently on same at Amazon for $250 if you're interested now. It's only $300 normally, so you're not missing out on that much if you want to wait to see if the remasters are good/not actually platform exclusive.

Amazon too.

PlayStation 4 Pro 1TB Limited Edition Console - Destiny 2 Bundle | $349.99 ($449.99 - $100)

Are they? Or are you not taking into account the fact that US advertisements don't include taxes?

Edit: I've just done a stupid comparison. On Amazon.it the cheapest ps4 is €234, on Amazon.com it's $248, which is €222 at the time of writing. However, the US version bundles Uncharted. To me, those look like prices in the same order of magnitude.

Sadly, Many of us should have taken advantage of the 15% off earlier during Black Friday. But if you were unable to get one, this is about a great deal.

Feel free to go ahead and "a lower price" on Amazon Ps4 Pro , so more of us in the States can get in on it.

If you feel a PS4 Pro is over hyped, AMazon is running a PS4 Slim for 229 down from 249 Holiday Price Point

Amazon seems to have started early and is selling the PS4 for $199 already:
https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-1TB-Console/dp/B071CV8CG2/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1511113729&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4

Finally a good deal on the PS4 Pro! I've been patiently waiting weeks for this! [Amazon - $349.99 PS4 Pro 1 terabyte Destiny 2 Bundle] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073RTKFY4/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1511425910&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=amazon%2Bps4%2Bpro&dpPl=1&dpID=31DTgKuYHUL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-500GB-Console-Black/dp/B01GVQVQH2/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=ps4&qid=1571889543&sr=8-5

Show me a gaming PC that can run the game better than a PS4 for £230. £270 if we include the complete FF14 collection. Hell I can get a MW bundle right now on Amazon for £209.

Even with the most brainiac of choices you will not build a gaming pc or even something barely decent for £250-270.

I'm sorry what?! Xbox is cheaper?!

Xbox: https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Xbox-One-500-GB-Console/dp/B00KAI3KW2/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1496961069&sr=1-4&keywords=xbox+one


PS4: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1496961096&sr=1-2&keywords=ps4&th=1

Ok now I know you're a fanboy. Please. Stop now.

Price is high for an OG PS4. You can get a brand new slim with Uncharted 4 for $250. . . and frequently less. https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1491161203&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4+slim

Country? $300 USD is the MSRP for that so it's not really a "deal". A better deal would be to get a 500GB bundle with Uncharted 4 and external HDD for expanded storage.

PS4 Slim 500GB w/ Uncharted 4 ($257.99) + Seagate Expansion 1TB ($54.99)
= $312.98, or 500GB (before formatting) more storage and Uncharted 4 for an extra $13.

You can get the PS4 in a bundle with a game for $199 on sale.

Amazon has em for $250-ish right now.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1/131-7533405-9338711?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1491420245&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4+bundle

The Switch will be $300 and you'll have to hope to be able to find one and that's without any games. And the Switch has a very, very small library with no huge increase seemingly planned. Though they'll be adding Mario Kart 8 Deluxe soon and eventually Mario, plus Zelda is just fucking incredible.

I have 0 knowledge of Xbone.

It already is dirt cheap.

Huh? PS4 with Uncharted 4 included is $270:

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-4/dp/B01LRLJV28/

IDK how well everything would actually fit, or how secure it would all be, but there is this: Link

Link for the lazy

If I were you, I'd lock in a RDR2 Pro preorder at a place that doesn't require a deposit (amazon, etc), and then if you can't find one between now and then, you're still set. And if you do find one, you can cancel the amazon order and not be billed.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Console-Redemption-4/dp/B07HHWJMGF

Up on Best Buy now: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-playstation-4-500gb-batman-arkham-knight-limited-edition-bundle-gunmetal/6128146.p

Amazon too but not available to order, you can sign up to be notified: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VETEZ34

I may be misinterpreting what you're saying, but the PS4 isn't anywhere near $400 anymore. It's $267 on Amazon with a game bundled. Only the Pro is $399

>1080i

>30fps

>$300

>month from now

>tower and internals, keyboard and mouse controller

>no overclocking

>HDMI out

>no Windows

>TV, not monitor

Here you go

First, price match to Amazon or Walmart [$249 currently] and then use your Target RedCard (TRC) to receive a special 15% off offer from target.

Here are the target offer deets: "Save 15% on a Uncharted 4 PlayStation 4 500GB Slim Bundle when you use your REDcard as payment type. Offer available online only. Offer not available in stores. May not be applied to previous orders. Offer expires 12/10/2016 at 11:59pm PT."

It’s US, and I don’t really know their delivery rules so they may deliver to UK address

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-1TB-Console-Spider-Man-4/dp/B07HHW8C4V/ref=sr_1_6?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1542557688&sr=1-6&keywords=spiderman+ps4

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HHW8C4V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_23H7BbFMXRNXA

amazon spider man/console bundle

Walmart

EBGames

Amazon

I'll tweet when it goes live ;)

If you don't already have a PS4, the Pro is the way to go, hands down.

Just get the PS4 Pro RDR 2 bundle.

Sure thing.

Amazon.ca has this price, too. Interesting that "suspend mode" is now in the list of features despite just being updated the other day. It looks like this is Sony's marketing strategy; get the new update out, drop the price in "sale" mode.

I wouldn't be surprised it Canadian PS4 price was permanently reduced to $400 in the next 6 months. Maybe there will be a different bundled game at that time. A great deal for people who haven't actually played Last of Us yet, though!

No son 120p, son 120 usd.




Pero sí, esta "industria nacional" no va.



PS4 500gb + Battlefront:

En compumundo a $16.500



En Amazon a 350 USD (menos de 5k).

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-500GB-Bundle-Call-Black/dp/B018V3ISJ2/ref=pd_sbs_63_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=QYM2EKVYYC5FC7FV3E7Q This one. It's doesn't have BO3 included.

I say stop waiting and jump in. I was waiting for a great PS4 deal as well, and finally settled for the Uncharted Collection bundle for $300 delivered. it was that, or I was considering the Uncharted 4 bundle. Sony knows they have the best-selling console this generation, and they also know Uncharted 4 is going to be huge. they have far less incentive to be aggressively price competitive compared to Microsoft.

If he's not giving you any disks for those games, $250 isn't a good deal for a used slim.

Pay the extra $15 and get it new from Amazon

here ya go was a little tricky because it's not called PS4 Slim

www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-4/dp/B01LRLJV28/

What!? What country are you in? A couple of things. The original Playstation is just fine. You can get a new 500GB PS4 slim of $250 from Amazon with a game.

I would cancel the order altogether and locate a more reputable retailer, because as far as I am concerned they are out and out lying to you.

I ordered one today from Amazon. The price puts it over the one-day free shipping threshold and I pre-ordered the steelbook today as well. $258 for the cheapest package which includes Uncharted 4.
https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1491161326&sr=1-3&keywords=playstation+4

amazon has it for 254 (https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1492696551&sr=1-2&keywords=ps4&th=1)

best buy will price match amazon as long as it is shipped and sold from amazon

First of all, you don't need PS+ or extra controllers to play this single player game.

Thus to "just play this one game" (his words) it would cost $250 for the PS4 (and that includes Uncharted 4 bundled in!) + $60 for HZD, for a total of $310 + tax. Not exactly $600.


I suppose this assumes he has a screen to play it on and a house/electricity to power it (which he should, given that he's said he plays PC games with his wife).

Leaves out this current deal. PS4 Slim & Uncharted 4 $212 or $246 w/ extra controller. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=twister_B00Z9TLGOG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LRLJV28/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1517620418&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=uncharted+4

There not that hard to find.

>Finally decided to buy a used PS4, looking on craigslist.

How much is it? $250? $200?

[Amazon warehouse] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01LRLJV28/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ) is selling a used Uncharted 4 Bundle (PS4 slim + controller + UC4) for $211.62 just so you know.

I don't know much about other stuff, but this is a good option with a free game.

Maybe, but right now the only place who have it at that price are Best Buy and Gamestop. If you happen to have GCU it's a much better deal.

Walmart is [87.95] (https://www.google.com/shopping/product/2124240011256692712?q=farpoint+bundle&safe=active&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS760US760&biw=1242&bih=629&prds=hsec:online,paur:ClkAsKraX0eZgP-DcWNEzU2DTfmFeFHFsIISyGtshVYQed60hiIQhfk_D8-K-hQmspoUF5kvE2jepQ38A3asFdMjXB3T7oqjcluCK03tdGdpgxId0LQ_ofLgoxIZAFPVH70DRnH004492Mg-49wDwa9HQybTpA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT2-LR5d_XAhVEc98KHXVAB1UQ2SsIEw)

Amazon starts at [$89.75] (https://www.amazon.com/PSVR-Aim-Controller-Farpoint-Bundle-PlayStation/dp/B06XGPF3CW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511821546&sr=8-1&keywords=farpoint+bundle)

With the gun alone being over [90] (https://www.amazon.com/PSVR-Aim-Controller-PlayStation-4/dp/B06XG9J26Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1511821546&sr=8-3&keywords=farpoint+bundle)

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B06XGPF3CW/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

$146 after tax and shipping. I just picked up one

Google says £389.99 is $510.07

Trying to piece this out on amazon:

Destiny 2 Pro Bundle - $449

Doom - $21.99

Dishonored 2 - $29.99

Fallout 4 - $27.49

CoD WWII - $59.88

Grand total of $588.35 which is still a decent deal. You more or less get CoD for free.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Computer-Entertainment-PS4-Destiny-Bundle/dp/B073RTKFY4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499705301&sr=8-2&keywords=destiny+2+ps4+pro Amazon

Star Wars Battlefront 2 Limited Pro bundle on Amazon right now $398.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B0756K26JG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525134106&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ps4+pro+bundle&dpPl=1&dpID=31It6GilGHL&ref=plSrch



God Of War Pro bundle (selling out fast and now listed as discontinued) get on Amazon thru a 3rd party seller for around $550.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B44P67Q/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_63_of_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Q2DS4HE0BCFXT4TRDZM0



Monster Hunter World Pro bundle around $1,000 shipped

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075S1VZZ7/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_63_of_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Q2DS4HE0BCFXT4TRDZM0



20th Anniversary Edition PS4 Pro. Priced at $1,000 and up.

https://www.amazon.com/New-Sony-Playstation-20Th-Anniversary-PS4300667/dp/B00R0IDJI0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525135582&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=anniversary+edition+ps4+pro&dpPl=1&dpID=31H66lXabpL&ref=plSrch



White Destiny 2 Pro bundle around $550 (discontinued, and only 1 left).

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B073RTKFY4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525136054&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=destiny+2+ps4+pro&dpPl=1&dpID=31DTgKuYHUL&ref=plSrch



A fucking beautiful Skyrim Pro

https://www.google.com/amp/s/press-start.com.au/news/playstation/2017/11/13/look-nice-limited-edition-skyrim-ps4-pro/amp/

PlayStation 4 Pro 1TB Limited Edition Console - Marvel's Spider-Man Bundle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FQ1BZF3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_huBJBbV7VD7YR

Try this.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-1TB-Console-Spider-Man-4/dp/B07HHW8C4V

Amazon has it, commenters above say they ship there

Looks like the Amazon 1TB bundle is up for pre-order. Just put mine in. Says delivery on the 21st.

Edit: Link: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-1TB-Console/dp/B07HHW8C4V/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1542499856&sr=1-2&keywords=playstation%2B4&th=1

Edit again: My bad. Got super click happy. :)

I ordered from Best Buy, I'm just not a fan of the GameStop website system. You can also order on Amazon, that went live 12AM PST.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HHW8C4V/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Not sure if there will be a better deal, but if you were planning on getting RDR2 this is pretty good: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Console-Redemption-4/dp/B07HHWJMGF/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537996022&sr=8-1&keywords=red+dead+ps4+pro

Amazon has the $199 PS4 Slim 1TB bundle up https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YLDNTKB

You might be interested in this if you don't mind buying online: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00M37WR90

It's an Amazon.ca lightning deal(so it'll only be around for a few hours), which is a $450 PS4+Last of Us bundle, but it also comes with $75 store credit that arrives once your console is shipped. It's not a crazy good deal, so you might have better luck on "Cyber Moday".

Thanks, Just got one from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VETEZ34

> I'm not spending $500 for a game when I can play the same game but with shitty graphics.

You wouldn't be paying $500 for a single game. You'd be paying $299 for a PS4, a console capable of playing more games than just CoD, and as much as $60 for the game.

Look on the website and see for yourself. Search for items you are interested in and pay attention to the big green (sometimes red) letters just under the price. Item availability is standard, it is not effected by a prime membership one bit, so theres no reason not to check it out before you sign up for a prime trial/paid membership.

ie, this shows in stock:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018V3ISJ2

this shows in stock, but may require an extra 1-2 days to process: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WJOU7DA/

It honestly wasn't easy to find a prime item with a avliability status that wasn't "In stock." I probably clicked through 15 items before i was able to give you this example. YMMV depending on what kind of items you're looking at.

A neat little tip is to click and view the other sellers that have this item for sale, if you see the one that is sold by Amazon.com, it might even give you more information. In this case it will tell you: "Back-ordered. Due in stock July 8 -- order now to reserve yours"

If you can't find your way there, you can use this link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00WJOU7DA/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Exclusives? But isn't that entirely subjective in terms of how good they are. Also, a higher budget does not necessarily mean a good game, take Destiny for example ($500m budget) and it only averaged out at 76% as a Metacritic score when a game like World of Warcraft (PC exclusive) was developed on a $40m budget and has a 93% metacritic score. Also, there is a common misconception of PC games usually being indie, well, Arma 3, Age of Empires, Amnesia, Anno 2070, Cities: Skylines, Elite: Dangerous, Guild Wars 2, League of Legends, LOTRO, Mount & Blade, Total War games, Sims franchise, RuneScape, Rollercoaster Tycoon, Star Citizen and many other non-Indie games would like a word with you.

I still stand by simplicity but that's not a good enough reason for me to switch.

Cheap? Well, you are definitely correct about it being cheap but you should have a look at this build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3wggVn - it costs $344 (before rebates) which is $5 cheaper than Amazon's listing of the PS4 which has 500GB less space than the PC build and is the same price as Amazon's listing of the Xbox One but you get the same amount of space.

Now, onto your final point about PC games being under maintained. First, it's not like that consoles have not had technical problems before. Secondly, your statement does hold truth in the sense that some multi-platform titles run like crap on Day 1 but this is largely attributed towards each PC being different and every console being the same. But, with things such as GeForce experience, PC optimizing has never been easier. I do partly agree with you, but it still would not be enough to make the move to console as for every crappy port there is, there are hundreds of good ones which are well optimized (GTA V being an example). This also isn't the fault of the platform but the fault of lazy game developers.

> Especially people that aren't in the US.

Don't forget prices in general in the rest of the world tends to be a lot higher though, that isn't just true for the Rift.

PS4 with COD US: http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-500GB-Console-Black-Bundle-4/dp/B018V3ISJ2/

PS4 with COD UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-500GB-Call-Duty/dp/B015MSRAIE

That's 31% more you pay in the UK for the PS4, if we apply that to the PSVR price we get over $650. The total becomes over the equivalent of $1100, still below PC+Rift but not as far as you'd expect.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018V3ISJ2/

Amazon is selling the Black Ops III bundle used for $296.65. It's sold by Amazon Warehouse Deals which means it was a trade-in sent directly to Amazon, not a used console from a 3rd party seller.

Amazon has one used right at your price point

IDK if your willing to go with used, otherwise save 50 more dollars and go for a legit bundle found here

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BEELH52/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473338687&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=ps4+uncharted+bundle&dpPl=1&dpID=418BTf99oGL&ref=plSrch

> I've always said you could spend $300 on a cheap computer and $500 on a console

Ehm, buddy...I love PC gaming too, but a PS4 costs 250-300$ and a proper gaming PC costs at least 600-700$. And those are some of the cheapest parts, only 8GB and no optical drive.

You can't play shit on a 300$ PC.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01GVQVQH2/

Are you in the US? Amazon has one with Uncharted 4 for $248: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1_twi_gam_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1498017618&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4&th=1

Sounds like you guys have been through a lot together! It's such a great feeling having a partner in life, no matter what the situation is. You'll always have somebody going through the same things as you so you're never truely alone!

They just re-released the first 3 Crash games on PS4 with upgraded graphics. Also here's a graphics comparison of the games.

And this is the best PS4 deal/bundle at this time, but since we're so close to the holidays, I highly recommend that you wait for the Black Friday deals.

You can get the Slim PS4 Uncharted bundle + 12 months of PS+ from Amazon for $250

From the PS4 I think he wanted one of the newer Kingdom Hearts games. This or this. Also you just look up Arduino or rasperry pi kits and there's usually some game kind of deal.
Also here's some PS4 stuff. 1 or 2. If you do two check the sellers for best ratings and stuff. But 1 seems the way to go because of the game. Also if you do just end up getting him a PS4 no game get the kid kingdom hearts remaster (not the 2.8).
But if you go aruino go with this and this and this. Those three are cheaper than the PS4 and he'll learn more.
Also all this is from the perspective of a guy who's had to buy his own games and stuff.

Ok, sure, let's give it a try, nothing to lose, just the tiniest chance to win, but it's something :)

I guess I would be ok with a Playstation 4, did not own a console in almost a decade and this one actually has games I would care about. Here is one. Would have gone for a PS4 pro, but I think that one releases sometime during the middle of November.

Thanks for making someone very happy. Also, congrats on your profit.

Are firmwares not known by serial or other numbers on the co sole at this time?

I. The past I remember it being possible to tell when the console was produced>what firmware it had by serial.

Edit: nevermind, it seems manufacture date is located on the ps4 box, and I’ve found a partial list of mfg date and firmware version.

Here is the incomplete list

mostly start dates. with no end dates, but im fairly certain the mfg date on any new box will be enough to determine firmware, unless it is a newer bundle/ps4 slim that is still in production.

i live in a fairly large city, and all stores have many older bundles. they are also available online.

i found the uncharted bundle in the link above for 340, which seems reasonable to me.

obviously a used unit or unit you can test is best. personally ill take my chances on the mfg date ob the box when i buy eventually. (totally broke for a bit).

*hereis the uncharted 500gb slim model. 5 dollars less than a 1tb with uncharted included. NOTE: this is an affiliate link from the above listed site! If you wish, please search it out on your own as to not give $$ to the above site if you so wish. I have no connection with them and this is a disclaimer.

There are pro models with firmware starting at 4.05-4.07, but it will be harder to determine pro firmware from the date, unless you search for more Info, which I’m sure is easily doable.

If anyone buys a ps4 pro, let an active forum list know what firmware it has!

$250 on Amazon, bud.

Importing from Amazon.com will cost 24k https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LRLJV28/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1493372569&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Ps4&dpPl=1&dpID=41swX-m9CPL&ref=plSrch
I already have a PC, I'm buying just for the exclusives too

Alright.

I read the post the day you posted it, never really thought I'd give it a go though. After almost a week, when seeing like 2000 comments on an RaoG thread, it feels good to just look at it. And here I am, entering to request a successor for my 10 year old gaming companion, the playstation 2. Never got a chance to use the PS3, and I consider it one of the regrets that I'm gonna carry to my deathbed. Maybe its all for the best.

A PlayStation 4 Pro would be my request to you.

Just so you know, I'm working on saving money to get myself a PlayStation 3, even if it's a little late.

Just remember, you won't be forgotten. For us mortals, you would forever be that guy who made that one average redditor's wildest dream come true.

Cheers.

Uh what? You can get a new PS4 slim for $270.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-500GB-Console/dp/B01M0RU6LY/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1525006521&sr=1-3&keywords=ps4&th=1

My mistake... stand corrected. Didn't realize they started making 500gb ones again. The one I ordered was from the link below.. cuh-2115a. Which are indeed the old discontinued models on 4.73.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M0RU6LY/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_taa_.aNZBbZV7QBFM

About 300 bucks right now. I suggest buying from dealzone distributors if you do go that route.

While the official list price for the 500GB Slim is $299, the street price typically hovers around $250. This Amazon discount is considered special because it's a new color. It's possible that the Slim will hit $200 during Black Friday.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XGPF3CW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503583767&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=farpoint+bundle

Not sure why my link didn't take. Silly mobile.

Ok that makes sense, you are inside the window from 4/10-5/7 where the price dropped. Anyone in this window should have an easier time getting the price dropped, outside of that when the price was $79 (60 respectively with the discount applied) will have a harder time. This is why I had to fight and only got a credit. If the graph on camelcamelcamel is accurate I have not idea how some people got the discount before that. This whole price manipulation thing and unwillingness to honor price match is really souring me on Amazon.

Well, in a way i get it, but on the other hand it's a games console. It's there to have fun. Then again, it's not like PS4 can't be tacky either.

http://www.gamestop.com/ps4/consoles/playstation-4-1tb-system/147719

I'm pretty sure it's the slim.

Edit: add one more link plus some more info

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-1TB-Console/dp/B071CV8CG2?th=1

Maybe D&B got their wires crossed and they don't know the price should be for the Pro and not slim

I don't know about US pricing, so I'm just gonna use the Amazon prices here.

PS4 slim 1TB: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071CV8CG2/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1504630908&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=Ps4&dpPl=1&dpID=31qwualUaLL&ref ($299,00)

Xbox One S 500GB: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MTJA6EV/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1504631145&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Xbox+one+s&dpPl=1&dpID=41FZDM8-qdL&ref=plSrch ($239,00)

Now for the pc:

Buy something like this: https://prnt.sc/ghgw8q ($119,99)

Add this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N6NI5X6/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504632119&sr=8-1-fkmr0&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=MSI+gtx1050+lp ($115,27)

119,99+115,27= $235,26

(if you want, you could also get this 500gb hdd:
https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-2-5-inch-laptop-5400rpm-MQ01ABD050V/dp/B0100ZM5QG/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1504632401&sr=1-6&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_four_browse-bin%3A8067150011%7C8067149011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_six_browse-bin%3A6158683011%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A2224371011)

The pc is as cheap as a console, has an OS, can run modern games at 1080p60 at at least console grade settings and set up should be as easy as sliding the side panel off, clicking the gpu in place and installing the nvidia drivers. (wich is just spamming next)

Other benefits are: free online, upgradability, cheaper games, etc. (those and more are listed in the post above)

> You can't get any console/mobile gaming system for $300.

lol because there's no other hybrid console and you're being intentionally selective to try and make a point.

Both the PS4 and XBox One can be bought at less than $300 and while they lack mobility and Nintendo properties, they still have plenty to offer that make them even better bargains in my opinion. Their own exclusives, better third-party support, streaming services, a Blu-Ray/4K DVD player, etc.

PS4 Slim 1 TB - $200

XBox One S 500GB with NLF 18 - $230

XBox One S 1TB with Assassin's Creed - $300

>Again, there were Incentives for S1 playoffs

Again, no there were not. There were incentives for watching content in the in game theater. Nothing to do with CWL, and nothing to do with the 100K viewers.

Also, talking about looking stupid, neither of those links even mention anything to do with the in game viewers counting towards the views on mlg.tv.

>on MLG.TV and in-game (IW PS4) through Live Event Viewer.

MLG.TV =/= Live Event Viewer.

They are completely different platforms, and do not count as viewers when watching on the in game theater.

The process to downgrade is a little bit complicated...
See you have to open up your PS4 and take literally all the components out.
There are stores that sell these boxes full of PS4 spare parts, find a box from a 4.55 PS4.
Remove all the parts from the useless plastic container inside, then throw it away, since it's useless, then put your old PS4 back together, but replace all the parts that you have two of now with the new ones.
Boom- Firmware downgrade.

Here's a link to one of the boxes, but I don't know if it's on 4.55
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071CV8CG2

Looks like they have the destiny bundle for only $350 on amazon, and it's fulfilled by Amazon itself. I already have Destiny on PC so I can resell it to recoup a little bit more on top.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073RTKFY4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073RTKFY4/ - thanks to Ortster for posting the link!

That's cool. I had a case similar to that for my PSVR but it was also big enough to carry the HMD and the playstation. I had used it to carry the PSVR, a DS4, the move controllers, the playstation and the PSVR breakout box and a MacBook air when I was traveling.
https://www.amazon.com/Travel-PlayStation-Console-Launch-co2CREA-4/dp/B075P2K96T/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1512082751&sr=1-2&keywords=psvr+hard+case

I have something better though, https://www.amazon.com/Travel-PlayStation-Console-Launch-co2CREA-4/dp/B075P2K96T/ref=pd_sbs_63_6?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B075P2K96T&pd_rd_r=33035cf8-d25d-11e8-aebe-29a146e1910f&pd_rd_w=lYTpu&pd_rd_wg=AZ2kW&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=7d5d9c3c-5e01-44ac-97fd-261afd40b865&pf_rd_r=HYQJYXN2MS6594G0WFD9&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=HYQJYXN2MS6594G0WFD9

I would say PS4 is the better choice because it has a bigger variety of games. God of war bundle is probably the best choice right now.

But just so you know Xbox One also has a blueray player (the newer ones actually have a better one then PS4 because they can play 4k bluerays) and you have to pay for online on both systems.

It seems the news you are going off of is from the ps3 and xbox 360 era which is when both those facts were true.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B07FQ1BZF3/

Yes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HHW8C4V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_23H7BbFMXRNXA?th=1

Amazon is up now

Edit: k ordered. Good night.

What are the chances amazon has the Spider-Man bundle on sale? I've been itchin to get a PS4 for a few months but the lack of Amazon on this page makes me nervous. This website says it will have the bundle yet it doesn't here

You can pre-order the pro off Amazon

Edit: Here's a link

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B07HHWJMGF

thanks, for those that wanna pre order here Amazon

saw various PSVR bundles on amazon earlier today.

• psvr + astrobot + doom 179.99
  
• psvr + doom + skyrim 179.99
  
• psvr + move controllers + astrobot 229.99
  
  but now they are all gone. not sure if it was a glitch and they will be back later
  
  edit: back up now https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07K2P42YR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They had this and this for $199 yesterday.

EDIT: I think if you wait you'll see this deal at black friday again.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-1TB-Console-Bundle-4/dp/B07YLDNTKB/ref=sr_1_26?keywords=ps4+bundle&qid=1574715674&rnid=2941120011&s=videogames&sr=1-26

Goes on sale in a few days

Yes my dude !!!! Also on amazon as well if you prefer there. 100% worth it
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YLDNTKB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Actually you're getting it about $50 cheaper.

Confirmed!


[Amazon.ca] (http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00M37WR90)
[Walmart Canada] (http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/playstation4-the-last-of-us-remastered-bundle/6000190041182)
[Best Buy Canada] (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/playstation-4-playstation-4-console-10036/10254140.aspx?path=c6ab8eafe3ff653803eae2dd82a3e49cen02) NOT REDUCED. Now reduced until April 2.
[Future Shop] (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/playstation-4-playstation-4-500gb-the-last-of-us-remastered-bundle-3000594/10305409.aspx?path=65b42fb756302026edad91dfde5a6c9den0) NOT REDUCED. Now reduced until April 2.
Costco.ca NOT REDUCED. edit: this bundle is a little different. But for $469 you get an extra DS4 controller and 12-months of PS+. Good deal!!

Edit 2:
[Canadian Superstore] (https://local.flyerservices.com/LCL/RCSSW/en/a732699a-c397-4170-9986-ceea18e21617/Page/Coupon?Id=8db404ec-cae4-457c-ae94-c23cb9ece687&storeId=7a19d154-9daf-4a1a-8e74-27003bce1ab1&EventParams=139a8f8a-8284-451a-9ad6-db2d9753d807|9|HTMLSTANDARD) +$25 gift card.
[The Source] (http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=playstation-4-consoles-sale-bundles&product=8027000)
[EB Games] (https://www.ebgames.ca/PS4/Games/715420/playstation-4-console-with-the-last-of-us-remastered-bundle) NOT REDUCED. Now reduced.
[NCIX] (http://www.ncix.com/detail/playstation-4-500gb-the-last-6b-102270.htm) NOT REDUCED.

The current deal-to-beat is a $299.99 Battlefront bundle.
Comes with console, controller, and the game.

For the same price, you could get the Uncharted Bundle.
Amazon Link: http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-500GB-Console-Battlefront-Bundle-4/dp/B01574SORE

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01574SORE?pldnSite=1
you are welcome if that is what you are looking for

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01574SORE/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1449423532&sr=8-2&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=ps4&dpPl=1&dpID=41vZAl6ZapL&ref=plSrch

I bought the call of duty 500gb bundle.. is this the slim or no?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018V3ISJ2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KSd6xbA9W22D9

I was going to buy the uncharted version but I heard a lot of people were having problems with that model.

Walmart PS4 Bundle : http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sony-PlayStation-4-System-500GB-with-Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-3-Standard-Edition-Disc-and-NBA-2K16-Disc/52029631




Target PS4 Bundle: http://www.target.com/p/playstation-4-500gb-console-with-call-of-duty-black-ops-3-bundle/-/A-50522463



Amazon PS4 Bundle: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-500GB-Console-Black-Bundle-4/dp/B018V3ISJ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469943830&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4



Not sure where you got those 250$ new with a game bundles, since I couldnt find a single one lower than 350$ on any of the three sources you mentioned. Now add on the cost of Live or PSN (50$), youre now at the 400$ mark. Even if they were 250$ (which they arent as of now, maybe when theyre on sale but even then thats a huge stretch) plus the extra 50 for PSN, youre still at the 300$ mark. You could substitute the i3 i chose with a last gen i3 (4150-4170) which run 60-70 on hardwareswap (mobo and ram cost would be the same). You could even ditch the 960 and go for a 950 and but under the price of a console with better performance. Hell, you could go EVEN LOWER and get a 750ti and atleast be on par with a console (and be cheaper). There is no argument now that consoles are cheaper now, but pc's are more cheaper in the long run. When you have cards that will perform just as good as a ps4 for under 80$ (gtx 750ti, hd 7870, r7 370, etc.) and cpus like i3's which run under 100$ used, there is no debate if console or pc is cheaper. I just proved that. The build i posted is not only much more powerful, but its the same price as a console WITHOUT Live or PSN. The argument that you NEED to spend 450-500$ on a pc for decent performance is absurd when cheap and good processors like i3s and cheap good cards like the gtx 750ti, gtx 950, even the newer cards like the rx 460,470,and 480, will keep the price of a budget pc low and at the very least, on par with current consoles. If you just prefer consoles over a pc than thats one thing, but to go around and say that console gaming is still cheaper upfront then pc? Straight up lie.

Not sure if you were aware

It is the Uncharted 4 edition. She got that for me too actually.

So the average gamer or their parent has to:

1. Have the knowledge and ability to collect computer parts and piece it together like "Legos"
   
   
2. Make sure that their motherboards are compatible with the right cpu bundle and chipset. Or maybe they should get a combo? But which one?
   
   
3. Learn the basics of a free operating system on their machine (Linix) (cause paying over $100.00 for Windows will eat into their budget)
   
   Or they can pay 400 bucks and have something ready for them right out of the box plus a game.
   
   The fact that you'd have to spend countless hours for a foundational knowledge base then spend the time putting the parts for the PC together after you've gone out and bought all the parts isn't worth it for console gamers then trouble shoot the damn thing (cause let's face it, maybe once every hundred builds does the thing fire up without a hitch.
   
   And what performance level are you willing to play the game at? Sure, let's forget the 980. I was talking about just myself. Let's go with an older model. Something cheaper. Say a 750ti. That will cost me $120 - $130 on average, but now I've to make sure I'm powering it and my cpu with a enough juice from a PSU that could cost around $60.00 for a decent corsair mid range 550W. Now you've to get ram...hmmm, HDD, mobo/cpu combo... (cause, shit, i need to get it bundled to make my life easier) case, and I'm assuming you'll just jack in some cheap "gaming" headphones to the back of the mii tower where the onboard sound card's audio jack is exposed instead of buying any speakers cause that's just an extra costs (or maybe play with no sound at all) that'll take me over my gaming budget for my kid already. And who cares about a monitor? If I was gonna hookup the Ps4 to the living room tv, might as well do the same for this sweet new rig right? (Good luck having mom allow that).
   
   What's that? Your kid wants an exclusive AAA game? Well crap, now when I'm finished finding out how to install that Loonex or Linez or whatever it's called operating system into this machine successfully, let me get this thing called "steam" downloaded and then hopefully, with a fast enough internet connection, I can download Doom for him within the next 2-3 hours so he can play. Well, let's slap on another $60.00 right there.
   
   What's that? You need a mouse and keyboard? Well shit, there's another $30.00 if you wanna go a cheap yet acceptable route. Man all this price comparing has got me sweating up a storm. Oh yeah, shipping costs? Taxes? Now you're at $530-$600. What if something is DOA? What if I don't get all my parts? I was so ready to start playing Legos!! Now my kid is upset!
   
   Let's put all this shit together now. Oh crap! It won't boot. Well, let me check my physical setup. Did I get the right ram? What clock speed should it be?
   
   Maybe I should have bought a bundled steam machine system from Alienware? Wait! That's still like $230 bucks more than the Ps4! Grrrrrrrr! I just want to buy something for my kids to play!
   
   

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Limited-4/dp/B01BEELH52

Worth every penny my friend. It's actually a pretty solid deal.

EDIT: Downvoted? Really?

Judging by how retail goes, my guess is we'll see $50-100 off by holiday season:

• Uncharted Bundle $349 currently, I'd put money by Nov. it's $279

I remember this light blue one, but nothing gold.
https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Limited-4/dp/B01BEELH52

PlayStation 4 500GB Console - Uncharted 4 Limited Edition Bundle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BEELH52/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_IOr8wbNKSVMPC

I have a ps4 w/256gb ssd swapped into it. System, cables, controller, box.

This style https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Discontinued-4/dp/B01BEELH52

Last of Us Remaster, Detroit Become Human, and Uncharted 4 included.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Discontinued-4/dp/B01BEELH52

This one?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B01BEELH52/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_hist_1?filterByStar=one_star&pageNumber=1


Check it out for yourself. All the 1 star issues are the problem I had. The most concerning part is how long till all the other consoles fail? I'm almost lucky mine failed out of the box what happens when it fails out of warranty, there is a major issue with that version and Sony is trying to sweep it under the rug so be careful buying this version of the ps4. To be fair tho... It was beautiful, but that doesn't help me play games.

PS4 Slim 500GB Console - £215 ($250)

Xbox One S 500GB Console Minecraft Favourites Bundle £229.99 ($280 but includes Minecraft + DLC Packs, without would probably be around $250)

Oh wait ! Is that the slim actually ?

Amazon link below don't click if you don't want to!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-500GB-Console-Black/dp/B01GVQVQH2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ps4+slim&qid=1569526252&refinements=p_76%3A419158031&rnid=1642204031&rps=1&s=videogames&sr=1-1

It might be good to compare the Price of a Slim against the original version. The Slim has no real value except being smaller than the original PS4. The Original One might be even cheaper.

Also you can always check if you don't want to upgrade the Storage yourself through internal or external HDD (External must be between 250GB and 8TB).

So it might be cheaper to buy the original Ps4 with an external HDD that has 2 or 4 TB

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/get-help/help-library/system---hardware/storage---data/ps4--external-hdd-support/

For example:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-4-500GB-Black/dp/B01GVQVQH2/ref=dp_ob_title_vg (slim version)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/External-Devices-Data-Storage/Seagate-Expansion-Portable-External-Drive/B017KE8OG0/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1498217164&sr=1-6&keywords=external+hard+drive

With that you would have a Ps4 Slim and 4,5 TB (4TB external 500GB internal) storage for just about £350

Where you at? In the UK you can on Amazon

places in europe , i can buy ps4 for lets say €300 whie the cost of PC parts and windows can cost between €500-€600 there no no cost for ps+ beacuse most games can be played offline and patches/updates are free on psn
in terms of games they can be gotten cheaper used than buying new

Here, that's the price of the ps4 on Amazon over the past 2 years. Pretty self explanatory. Also really? I need to give you a source about manufacturing getting cheaper. Don't be like that.
People buy plenty of the same console. Might trade in their old version and buy a new one. It's why so many games get special edition consoles these days, they obviously sell or else they wouldn't be made.

>Do you have anything to prove that a PC is more expensive in all the cases compared to a console?

Look, I get that PC's are superior to consoles in many ways but they don't win on price and the fact that PC gamers can't admit that is why you guys get made fun of so much.

But here, let's do a simple comparison.

Here's a PS4. It comes with an input device, one AAA game, and costs $268. This is literally the first link on amazon so it's not like I had to do any digging to find this price.

Kindly provide a link to a PC that comes with an input device, an OS, and a AAA game that runs at a comparable resolution.

Console is more expensive too.

270 for the ps4 and 135 for the extra controllers means 405 for the 4 player multiplayer experience.

The switch is 300, the grips are 30, the joycon sets are 80, the pro controller is 70. The setup in the picture (assuming only 1 switch) is 300 + (80 + 30)*2 + 70 for a total of 590. It would 'only' be 510 if everyone but player 1 was using a pro controller.

1. Yes we do. Did you see Skyrim? That's not the remastered version, wanna take a guess why that is?
   
2. PS4 and XB1 constantly go on sale for 250, and right now you can get it for 260 on amazon. With a game. Switch comes with no games bundled. https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484286542&sr=8-1&keywords=PS4
   
3. Yes, but they were the strongest/most capable home consoles on the market at the time. The Switch is not, aside it's portable aspect, it has nothing grand to offer for that price. They single handedly alienated both their home console and handheld market.
   
4. Yes, 3rd party shovelware. They showed nothing in this presentation to prove me otherwise, because they would be showing the most anticipated releases of 2017, not..this.
   
5. Yes, hyperbole on my part but their launch line up is not good. It's just a bunch of mini type games and simple couch co op games. Zelda was the only game showed that people actually..you know..want. Mario is in the holidays and splatoon 2 is in spring.
   
   Cmon now, stop trying to defend this shit.

Some questions:

The PS4 Slim w/ Uncharted 4 bundle is currently $257 with an Amazon Prime discount. Normally it's $300.

Should I get that bundle at $257?

If it'd be better to wait for a sale, when can I expect a sale to take place? Around Easter?

Thanks.

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This is on sale, and it includes Last of Us and Comixology, but it's not an amazing sale. Pretty average sale.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487219083&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4&th=1 If you want to sell it has to be at least less than the retail price. Why not just give it to a friend or relative instead?

The uncharted bundle is the slim version amazon link.

I will be hardwired for now, but in the future as the setup might move or whatever it might be wireless.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-4/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=dp_ob_title_vg?th=1

most people have a TV for television, and most people I know need laptops before even considering desktops because they need the portability.

Brand new with Uncharted 4 for $248 Amazon. Just a heads up

Do you think there's anything I need to watch out for with any of these eBay listings?

Or should I spend a little more and get this bundle brand new?

Spend 3 cents less and get PS4 + Uncharted 4 bundle

I called for it from the US. I got it for $250, but it's currently $264.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-4/dp/B01LRLJV28

You might have been looking at the PS4 Pro which runs $400. The pro does 4k the slim is 1080p. Horizon looks great on the slim, haven't played it on a pro but might to compare.

This is only $9 less than the price on Amazon, which has Prime shipping, right? So it's not a huge sale?

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1496092387&sr=1-3&keywords=ps4&th=1

or we can do a new PS4 and persona 5 for just the switch with screen protector. https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1/146-9869488-0639851?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1494505740&sr=1-1&keywords=PS4

but its up to you

Have you subscribed to PS+? If yes, is it worth it?
I'm almost certain of buying this deal https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480284238&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4&th=1&psc=1

Or $212.49 with Prime through Amazon for the Slim.

It's just under, and includes a game.

So I went into this, and read the article, thinking "hey, but PC has a truly massive Indie scene. Surely, the reason PC is so much higher than the other three combined is because it had so many more games reviewed, right?"

Nope, on PS4/XBone/WiiU there were 783 games reviewed, 20 of which were classified as "good exclusives" with a score of 75 or higher. PC had 450 games reviewed and had 46 games classified as "good exclusives."

If we're rounding, just 3% of games released on console this year became "good exclusives" and 10% of games on PC became good exclusives. I'd say this is another feather in our cap, brothers.

When someone says "PC has no good exclusives" we can say definitively, with evidence, that ~10% of PC games reviewed are considered "good exclusives" whereas just 3% of Console games reviewed (and for this to be relevant you'd have to own all 3 consoles) are considered "good exclusives."

To tack onto what I said earlier, for this comparison, where PC absolutely smashes consoles, you'd have to own all three consoles, PS4, XBone, and WiiU concurrently to be able to take advantage of those 20 games that are "good exclusives." PS4 Slim + Xbox One + Wii U = $800 spent. For $800 you could get a pretty bitchin' computer that would outperform the consoles easily, and you might be able to get a VR capable PC with Oculus' new min spec being the 1050 Ti/960 and an i3.

"PC gaming is dead" I say PC gaming is stronger than ever, and this just proves it. Unless we're in some kind of bubble that no one in the industry is seeing, it's not going anywhere any time soon.

You can get a new ps4 with uncharted for $250. https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-4/dp/B01LRLJV28

Then you buy Overwatch for about 40$

https://www.amazon.com/Overwatch-Origins-PlayStation-4/dp/B017L186MY/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1481539880&sr=1-1&keywords=overwatch&th=1

And you get a shiny new pack for 290 $ and a son who is going to love you for sure.

Hey man, fellow PC gamer (For over a decade) and I just jumped into owning a PS4 about two weekends ago. I'm not looking for super amazing graphics, but rather games I have been missing out on. So I know how you feel. I've been vegging out on Destiny and I'm having so much fun.

> Pro vs Slim vs Standard. From what I understand via a quick Googling, the Pro's main advantage is 4K support (irrelevant to me) but the framerate isn't that much better and doesn't even apply to some games (true/false?); the Slim is the cheapest option; the Standard is... I don't know. Does standard have any advantage over slim?

Nothing is different from the OG PS4 and the Slim. The Slim is just smaller from what I understand. The Slim does come with the updated Dualshock 4 though. I owned a DS4 for my PC before and the updated DS4 has a light bar on the touchpad and the analog sticks are noticeably clickier when you push them in.

> New vs Used. I know it's going to vary widely by where I get it, but how "safe" is it to get a used PS4? This is assuming that there isn't a bundle with a game that I want, in which case I'd go with that.

I'm more on the side of getting a new system because I prefer new things anyway. I think the only thing you'll run into is wear and tear on the blu-ray drive and the hard drive. The hard drive is easy to replace though and it'll take any 2.5" HDD and even SDDs.

> I'm not a massive graphics enthusiast, but being on PC for so long with a somewhat-above-average rig, I notice low framerate. I don't care so much about, say, 50fps vs 60fps, but I notice 30fps or below and it makes me enjoy the game less. I know it varies based on the game, but overall how are framerates for PS4 games?

Framerates are definitely lower. I never disliked 30 FPS, but it does have that sluggish look to it. That being said, I could honestly care less. Before I owned my 970, I would sometimes lock my framerate to 30 FPS to keep it from feeling jittery from the frame drops. I never really cared about the whole 30 < 60 FPS argument, but 60 FPS is definitely better overall. It's a matter of preference. Now if a game drops below 30, it's really noticeable and there are a few games that do drop from what I understand. Digital Foundry is something I've always watched even before owning a PS4 just because I love seeing framerate differences between platforms. I will say this though: The Uncharted Collection feels and looks so nice at 60 FPS.

> When to buy. I probably missed out on stuff during black friday/cyber monday, but is there anything on the horizon (other than Christmas sales) that I should wait for? Any new bundles or special deals coming soon?

I got a Slim with Uncharted 4 for $269 (On Amazon) two weekends ago and I had it price matched at Best Buy. Amazon currently has it for $249 (The same model I got) right now and it can still be price matched at Best Buy if you want to pick it up locally. Not a bad price if you ask me.

> I'm going to be playing on my computer monitor via HDMI, because I don't have a working TV (all its ports got fried by lightning and so my TV is only good for watching cable - in other words, useless). This setup works fine for my WiiU, I assume it'll be fine for PS4 as well?

If it has HDMI, it will work! Only thing I can think of that can cause problems is HDCP content being restricted, but I don't know what your monitor is and I doubt it will ever be an issue. On another note, my Corsair Void Wireless RGB headset works on the PS4 as well. So if you have a "gaming" headset on your PC, there's a huge chance it will work on your PS4 if it's USB based.

Hope I helped man. I'm really enjoying my PS4 and I'm probably going to buy Stardew Valley for the third time tomorrow (Steam, GoG, and now PSN) lol. It's weird that I haven't touched my PC in a few weeks or finished Pokemon Moon either, but I've been wasting my time away with Destiny. I've been wanting to play it for years and I'm enjoying it so much right now.

May want to ask /r/PS4

Amazon has that same bundle for $270 btw https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1481221550&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4+bundle

$229 on Amazon. My guess is gamingducks is buying these from Amazon and then reselling them for a $10 profit? ¯\(ツ)/¯

Ps4 only.

EDIT: To note, however, it's not gonna be anywhere near $600. Here's a normal Ps4 slim bundle with Uncharted - $269.00 as I write this.

Here is the uncharted bundle on amazon with 500gb.

360 requires a subscription too you fucking RETARD. Who says anyone NEEDS a ps4 pro or xbox 1 x? you act like you cant buy anything but the brand new models? Jesus you are stupid. We can observe the IQ you posses by all your sweet posts to /r/trapmuzik lol holy shit man. https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1504543426&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4+bundle 400 bucks for sure!

Even amazon is also selling Legacy Edition for an extra $20
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1478278847&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4%2Bpro%2Bconsole&th=1

Yeah you are, you can buy a PS4 OR X1 for $300 Inc. A game:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LRLJV28/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484514564&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=PlayStation+4

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01L1Y0TCC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484514571&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=Xbox+one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LRLJV28/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494553197&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=playstation+4+bundle

There's a better deal on amazon.com !
EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRLJV28/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Just ordered the same, was it this one?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRLJV28/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It may be US only and I'm being told the PS Plus part doesn't show up on mobile. It's in the description on desktop.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LRLJV28/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481515963&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=PS4&dpPl=1&dpID=41HaLhMErVL&ref=plSrch

Holy crap, congratulations on your earnings.

The only thing I can think of, that I'd actually use is a PS4 pro. It comes out 2 days after your giveaway ends but is available for pre-order on amazon. Link. If it being a pre-order is an issue let me know and I'll change it to something else.

Oh boy this is a big one. If I win, can I get a ps4? It's about $450. Here's the link to the amazon page: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LYONM0D/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478109989&sr=8-2&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=ps4&dpPl=1&dpID=41GGPRqTZtL&ref=plSrch&th=1&psc=1

> PS4 pro

Check this http://amzn.to/2fyMLCl

PlayStation 4 Pro 1TB Console + Extra Controller Bundle

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-500GB-Console-Discontinued/dp/B01M0RU6LY

I can get a brand new one $280 on amazon with free shipping why would I want a stranger’s used one for 20$ more? (Only 4 left though better hurry!)

I think you misunderstood: maybe your local pawn shops were SELLING you ps4s for that much?

oye, entonces si crees que valga la pensa comprar este?: https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B01M0RU6LY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AVDBXBAVVSXLQ

lol thanks. Gun and game for $60 each? I'm looking here and seeing $150+
https://www.amazon.com/PSVR-Aim-Controller-Farpoint-Bundle-PlayStation/dp/B06XGPF3CW/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1495053300&sr=1-1&keywords=farpoint&th=1
 
EDIT: BestBuy seems to have it for $80 total

The bummer part is, you're going to pay at least 80 bucks for the controller (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B06XG9J26Q/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all)...and to get the bundle, with Farpoint, it's only another 7 bucks (https://www.amazon.com/PSVR-Aim-Controller-Farpoint-Bundle-PlayStation/dp/B06XGPF3CW/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1521818901&sr=1-3&keywords=psvr+aim+controller+farpoint+bundle&dpID=31PSaZLi%252B3L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch). The upside is, Farpoint still sells for 50 bucks, so I'd expect you could easily sell it on Craigslist or something for 30 or 40 bucks and get some of your cash back for the bundle.
Anyways, go get it NOW...trust me on this...you'll be glad you did. It's insanely cool and just a freaking blast.

And Amazon.


PSVR Aim Controller Farpoint Bundle - PlayStation 4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XGPF3CW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_3UrVzb2YD4K76

I ordered it off Amazon USA. With shipping and import duties it came to $90 USD or about $120 CAD

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XGPF3CW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Found one for Amazon pre-order (if you prefer them)

Also found one for GameStop if anyone is interested in this pre-order.

Hey what sorts of other things is he into?

As others have mentioned, PS4 can still be found on sale at places like Amazon and Target. You can find it for $280ish here. If he games, you can check out a nice gaming chair (like #21 on this list of gifts for gamers). You could also look in to getting him a customized controller (you can build one here). Hope some of those help!

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-1TB-Console/dp/B071CV8CG2/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1511153423&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4&dpID=31qwualUaLL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch


Here ya go!

See, told ya.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071CV8CG2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_jsXCDbRWFSFTE

Well if you add in a monitor, keyboard and mouse that combo is only $390 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wMJGgw
While a PS4 Slim and TV on Amazon is $410 together https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-1TB-Console/dp/B071CV8CG2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1549109935&sr=1-1&keywords=PS4 https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Television-Definition-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B07BHJFPPL/ref=sr_1_17?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1549110333&sr=1-17&refinements=p_36%3A8589204011
but you said only a PC so https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qdNZ7W which is only $390 as well
and assuming someone didn't buy a PS4 and PS4 Pro for $700 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZPbxq4

30 second budget ryzen

ps4 pro

PS4

Same price as a ps4 pro, minor higher price than normal PS4. Plus little things like a windows key you can buy for $20, and whatever compatibility issues might have to swap some other parts out but I literally put that together in 30 seconds, so obviously I'd do a bit more research for a specific build.

All I'm saying is console level PCs are actually quite affordable and provide the option to upgrade if you want in the future.

Edit: swapped Amazon link for an American link cause I think the PC partpicker was in wrong currency but still very similar pricing.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-1TB-Console/dp/B071CV8CG2/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1503507500&sr=1-3&keywords=ps4&th=1

Nope.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-4-500GB-Console/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1503507500&sr=1-5&keywords=ps4

There u go mate: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071CV8CG2/ref=s9_acsd_zwish_hd_bw_b710S3X_c_x_w/146-7335564-9719367?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-11&pf_rd_r=WWE1QZHM489NERXD4P33&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=6ce5359a-785d-51d7-aaaf-6f9198bed27f&pf_rd_i=6427814011

Any PC for $300 is not worth your money. Step it up a bit and get something decent.

It looks like the same bundle is available on Amazon for $449, I have Prime so I'm not sure if that makes a big difference in shipping price, but it looks like there are already much cheaper options out there if you are wanting the Destiny 2 bundle.

Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Computer-Entertainment-PS4-Destiny-Bundle/dp/B073RTKFY4/ref=ice_ac_b_dpb_twi_gam_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1499722542&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4%2Bpro&th=1

BestBuy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-limited-edition-destiny-2-ps4-pro-bundle/5972809.p?skuId=5972809

I ordered this one. I will admit my first impression when I got it was it seemed like semi-cheap Chinese materials for what is a pretty high price. However, I do really like it now. It does fit everything, including a few extras and game discs, very nicely. It is just firm enough to feel protective, and it makes carting everything needed for the VR setup easy. They elastic that holds the PS4 seems a little weak (especially for the heavy pro, but once closed, it's great. This is not a hard bag you could say check at the airport, but it is very useful and convenient to pack up the PS4 and PSVR in the car to take to friends and family. In the end, I'm satisfied with it, and haven't seen any other case that holds BOTH the PS4 and PSVR yet that I would consider better (granted, I haven't done exhaustive searches):

https://www.amazon.com/Travel-PlayStation-Console-Launch-co2CREA-4/dp/B075P2K96T

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As an aside, as I was searching my orders to find that link above, I noticed this one too, which wasn't available when I got mine. Doesn't look bad and it's 10 cheaper: https://www.amazon.com/Travel-PlayStation-Launch-Console-Hermitshell-4/dp/B01MRWTHEY

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075P2K96T/ref=sspa_mw_detail_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think you meant this'n

You can try searching on Amazon for it. Found a few here:

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Console-Redemption-4/dp/B07HHWJMGF/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=ps4+pro&qid=1557166682&s=gateway&sr=8-6

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B07FQ1BZF3/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=ps4+pro&qid=1557166682&s=gateway&sr=8-7

Apparently Qisahn still has the GOW one too: https://www.qisahn.com/products/playstation-4-pro-console-god-of-war-limited-edition-bundle

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B07FQ1BZF3

Have you tried Amazon ?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B07FQ1BZF3/ref=olp_tab_all

Yes I have, I have the comment history to prove it. All I have to do is scroll down a lot. And you lost, bad. You kept trying, I kept debunking every thing you said. It got to the point where you were repeating points I had already proved false.

>I'm not here saying console is superior. But PC isnt superior either. It's all subjective idiot.

That's ironic, calling me an idiot immediately after writing a dumb ass comment. I found a $320 ps4 slim bundled with spider man for $320, and a 40 inch TV with speakers here to go with it. A total of $479.94. That plus $60-$120 a year (if you bought the ps4 slim on release that's $180-$360 extra onto the total, so 659.94-839.94 total). For that you get a device that cannot be upgraded, has a cpu from 2008, can play games at 1080p 30fps medium low settings, no graphics options, only one input device option, the option to pay money or play offline, is very limited in uses, and only 1800 ish games available 74 ish being exclusive.

Now, let's see what kind of PC we can get for $659.94, shall we? Theres a free version of windows 10 that just puts a water mark on windows products. A little annoying, but not as annoying as all the ads in sonys paid online service.

G4560 for $82.96

Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2PV for $69.99

V-Color Skywalker Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz for $64.99

WD Blue 1TB PC Hard Drive - 7200 RPM for $43.81

XFX Radeon RX 580 GTS XXX Edition 1386MHz OC+, 8GB GDDR5 for $184.99

Rosewill Dual Fans MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case for $34.99

Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+ White Certified PSU for $39.99

The PC itself is $521.72 and runs circles around the ps4 slim and the ps4 pro. It is more than capable of 1080p ultra settings at 70-80fps on most AAA games. Now for the kbm and monitor.

Logitech Desktop MK120 for $29.87

Sceptre E225W-19203R 22" Ultra Thin 75Hz 1080p LED Monitor for $79.84. Its smaller but you're going to be way closer so it wont matter.

For $28.51 less, you get a PC that runs circles around the ps4 and ps4 pro, is upgradable, can be a work station, is capable of a lot more, is cheaper in the long run, has hundreds of thousands of games available on it, objectively has more high quality exclusives, has a player base 12 times the size, free online play, an entirely free game every week from epic games store (no subscription needed), and much more options.

And since you always like to say "b-b-but can it p-play d-dvds?". I first would like to mention that pcs have the option to download the movies, netflix and other streaming services exist, and if you actually do want to play movies via disk, you can spend the $28 you save on a $20 DVD drive if you want. It's an optional accessory.

Now I think I've successfully proved that you

1, have no idea what you're talking about

And 2, are wrong about it being subjective. Yes, preferring a console is perfectly fine. But objectively a PC is better in almost every way.

Let's figure out how much 3 carts of PS4's would cost using math:
The Spider-man ps4 box is 16.5 x 13.4 x 3.8 inches in volume. This equals: 840.18 inches cubed. A large generic shopping cart like the ones used at Walmert, have 18,000 Cubic Inches of available space for transportation. To figure out how many PS4's a cart can hold we divide 18,000 by 840.18:

18,000/840.18 = 21.4

So a cart can hold about 21 PS4's. Times this number by 3, because there are 3 carts, and we get 64.2

The deal for the Spider-man PS4 is $199 at Walmert. Here is a pic if the link disappears: https://imgur.com/a/d5balPS

So we times 64.2 by 199:

64.2 * 199 = 12775.8

Which means if she would of bought all three carts she would of spent $12,775.8
However, from reading a comment posed by OP she was only allowed to buy one cart. Which means she spent 1/3 of that or: $4,258.6
This is assuming of course there is no gaps between the PS4's and the carts aren't overflowing. However, from the pic we see the carts are overflowing somewhat and there probability is some gaps. So these 2 factors most likely cancel eachother out. If I did any math wrong, please correct me.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-1TB-Console-Spider-Man-4/dp/B07HHW8C4V/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543008970&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=ps4+bundle&dpPl=1&dpID=414rlkSLSML&ref=plSrch

Show me your full list or your words mean nothing. Don't forget to match PS4's capabilities in all ways. The PS4 even comes with a $60 controller ($20 kbm is sufficient) and $50 3D blu ray player + wifi and lots of other things your list won't have.

• Also by the way. My PC compliments my PS4 as my home media server. lol you kids touting your superior PC don't even have a disk drive or utilize it to it's capabilities.
  
  
• Also it's $300 for a 1TB PS4 with $60 GOTY Spiderman
  
  Oh and that's a single player gamer. But if you want the highly valuable PS+ subscription I do recommend it. Looking at averaging 4 - PS4 games a month.

Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HHW8C4V/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Here it is. https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Console-Redemption-4/dp/B07HHWJMGF/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537888184&sr=8-1&keywords=red+dead+redemption+2+ps4+pro

You can preorder the RDR2 Bundle.

Edit
Just saw Best Buy has the pro in stock.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Console-Redemption-4/dp/B07HHWJMGF/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=&th=1



$400 for a Pro w/ RDR2 and 1 controller,


tax being ~$30, extra controller for $40.



Amazon has customer service and is $10 less.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB-Console/dp/B07HHWJMGF/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538004020&sr=8-1&keywords=ps4%2Bpro&th=1

They just got restocked at several retailers including the ps4 bundle with red dead redemption 2 and the ps4 itself. Both are $399 each so obviously the bundle is the better option. Btw the RDR2 bundle features the new 72xx model. Though I'm not sure about the model number of the new ps4 pro batch.

Edit:

Red Dead Redemption 2 Bundle:

• Bestbuy
  
• Amazon
  
• Gamestop
  
  PS4 Pro Only:
  
  
• Bestbuy
  
• Gamestop

It's just come on sale now https://www.amazon.co.uk/PlayStation-VR-Starter-Pack-PS4/dp/B07K2P42YR

>Costs for the starting, complete virtual reality package that includes the headset, audio, 2 motion controllers, and the platform:


>(Complete here means full headset tracking, motion controllers for hand tracking, and some sort of headphone solution for audio)


> |Oculus Rift | HTC Vive | Playstation VR
---|---|---|---

>Platform | $850 PC | $850 PC | $350

>PS4
Headset | $600 | $800 | $400

>Controllers | $??? | $0 | $60 ($30x2)

>Tracking | $0 | $0 | $45

>Audio | $0 | $0 | $0

>Total | $1450+++ | $1650+ | $875+

160 is very low, it is new and sealed in box. I saw it selling for more than 300$ at amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Limited-Bundle/dp/B01BEELH52/ref=s9_simh_gw_g63_i1_r?_encoding=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=B3793S2BAXVQSJ1R3KE6&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=a6aaf593-1ba4-4f4e-bdcc-0febe090b8ed&pf_rd_i=desktop

No it isn't. A brand new PS3 is literally 5 dollars cheaper than a new PS4. No one is letting a used PS4 go for $150 unless they're desperate, which isn't the norm.

PS3: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-500-GB-System/dp/B009DL2TBA/ref=lp_14210711_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1498080279&sr=1-1

PS4: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1498080299&sr=1-1&keywords=playstation+4

And seriously don't act like PS4 was $250 when it was new. They cut the price in half within less than 3.5 years, that's horrible as far as a loss goes for Sony. Both consoles were $500 new. You could build a better PC in 2013 for $500, and you can build a better PC now for $250, as well as $500.

Furthermore, stop acting like these consoles are sold at the price paid for the components. They aren't. The alleged cost to build an Xbox One was $471, which is total bullshit. If true, it means the components in these consoles are total trash or were supplied at a massive discount. A more accurate comparison would be "Build a comparable PC for $800 - $1000 and then just cut that price in half".

I just easily threw together an AMD system with better parts for $430, hell I could swap out the RX560 for a 1060 and it would still be under $500.

Yeah you can get a new PS4 for $259 with a great game included. Aside from GPU shortage, you point out that PCs have uses other than gaming, but so do consoles. They're simple, multi-purpose, media centers, and much much user friendly. I have a gaming PC and a PS4, but I use the PS4 more because it's just more convenient for most things. If you're going to game casually, just get a console. A $250 PC may perform on par, but for most people it's just not worth it. If you want a gaming PC, spend more than $250.

Your math doesn't quite add up there buddy but sure, keep pulling numbers out of your ass.

29 years old, working in IT since 7 years now.

Still doesn't change the fact that a PS4 is cheaper, and I don't really know what my age has to do with anything.

PS4 for 260$

Gaming PC for 1180$

Sure, you can also build yourself a potato PC for 400$, but that won't even play Witcher 3 and won't last you longer than a year before you have to upgrade.

check amazon

High end build is not 1-2k lol.. That is mid range.. I would love to see the computer you can put together for less than $269.95 PS4 Slim 500GB (current as of when I posted) that will play most AAA titles and looks better. Hint... You cant..

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Slim-500GB-Console/dp/B01M0RU6LY/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1526189426&sr=1-2&keywords=ps4+console

Don't know about Best Buy but I just bought mine from Amazon.
Here's the link if you want
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XGPF3CW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495928886&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=farpoint&dpPl=1&dpID=31PSaZLi%2B3L&ref=plSrch

PlayStation 4 Slim 1TB Console https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071CV8CG2/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_api_FhAeAbWS0KPJ0

Think the price went up a little by $30

Buy a Special Edition Ps4 of GOW like this one: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B07B44P67Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1538503140&sr=8-2&keywords=ps4+god+of+war

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This one comes with the digital deluxe edition already installed I think, or with a digital code of it I don't remember, but any version of the game is fine, the extra content is no game changing stuff, mostly cosmetic. Hope it helps :)

It’s still up in Amazon new
https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Console-Redemption-4/dp/B07HHWJMGF

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-playstation-4-pro-red-dead-redemption-2-bundle/6301643.p?skuId=6301643

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https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Pro-1TB-Limited-Console-4/dp/B07HHWJMGF/ref=as_li_ss_tl?th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=comicbookcom-20&linkId=e20bf226687312e3533f9453d6942541&language=en_US

Meh, I still think the Limited Edition Batman PS4 is the best looking one that has been made so far and I don't even like Batman. The colors on it are stunning, and the design is clean and simple. This new one just has too much going on.

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-500GB-White-Console-Special/dp/B01B6R8YMG/ref=sr_1_11?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1497117386&sr=1-11&keywords=xbox+one

$259

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-Bundle/dp/B01LRLJV28/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1497117404&sr=1-2&keywords=ps4

$248

And those are bundled with a game as well

Yes, you can preorder from here:
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Computer-Entertainment-PS4-Gold-Core/dp/B0716XFVBP/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PlayStation-VR-Starter-Pack-PS4/dp/B07K2P42YR

A PS4 Pro is $400 brand new, and a slim is $300. Slim bundles (including a game) are usually $250.

Yes, a Bundle is cheaper than the base unit, which is a bit of a trend with PlayStation. In fact, you can pick up a VR starter bundle (including the headset, camera, move controllers, and a game) right now for less than $300. Meaning, you could have a PS4+Controller, a full PSVR kit, and two games for less than $600. This is all with NEW parts, so buying used could actually get you all of that for less than a single brand-new Pro.

Consoles are only as expensive as people make them to be. Just like with PC’s, if you know what you’re doing, you can save a lot of money.

Plus, the belief that PS4 games are expensive tends to be an unfounded stigma. Right now, Beat Saber is $30 on PSN... and $30 on Steam. Also keep in mind that things like Summer Sales and Black Friday sales apply to both Steam AND PSN.

Now sure, you still need to pay for PS+ to play online, but A: you get two games per month for free, B: if you do the $60/year plan that only comes to about $5/month, and C: you get even bigger discounts with it than standard. PS+ can save you more money with it than what you may pay without it.

So again. For some people, playing on a console is what they can afford, and no one should be telling them that they “made the wrong choice.”

Its even cheaper at amazon -- $257.97

https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Slim-500GB-Console-Uncharted-4/dp/B01LRLJV28