Best semi-automatic espresso machines according to redditors
We found 245 Reddit comments discussing the best semi-automatic espresso machines. We ranked the 48 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 245 Reddit comments discussing the best semi-automatic espresso machines. We ranked the 48 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
Honestly, we have an $800 fancy espresso machine at my work with all the bells and whistles, and it is a grand pain in the ass to use. My $100 DeLonghi machine at home consistently makes a fuller and richer crema and it easy to use. I would recommend that one for a cheap start to try out. Grind fresh coffee, learn to pack it right, and importantly, keep the machine clean!
I have both a latte / espresso machine at home and I prefer lattes to black coffee at the shops too, so I'll do that math:
I pay 4.50 and give a 1$ tip when I get a latte in the morning, so that comes out to 2007$ a year
Assuming I steam 6oz of milk, that makes a half gallon of good milk (clover, organic, etc) into about 10 lattes. So 10 lattes costs about $4.19 in milk or 0.41$ per latte or 150$ per year
I buy the expensive coffee, which is $17 for 12oz (blue bottle), and do double-shots, which is roughly 15g of beans, so the bag (340g) lasts about 22 lattes, or 0.77$ per latte or 280$ per year.
So a top of the line home-made latte (best milk, coffee) every single day will be roughly 430$ per year,
while going out to a nice cafe (La Boulangerie de San Francisco was my reference for 5$ lattes) will run you 2007$ per year, meaning I save roughly 1577$ a year by making lattes at home or 5.5$ versus 1.18$.
Thus, if you like fancy coffee, within less than half a year this baby pays for itself - also, steaming milk / pulling espresso in the morning has become as much of a wake-up ritual as the coffee itself, and I much prefer it to standing in a line - plus, now that my girlfriend lives with me, that savings number is roughly doubled.
A breville espresso machine. My husband and I just moved back to the US from Europe. We are keeping our place in Europe and we decided we just couldn't go without having one of these so now we have one in each location. It's so frivolous but SO worth it. I use it at least twice daily.
Gaggia Classic - $400 - One of the classic and best cheap espresso machines. Consider trying to find a refurbished or used unit to save money.
You might pair this with:
Baratza Preciso Eletric Grinder - $300 - A reasonable-quality grinder which loosely matches the Classic in budget.
TL;DR: Use fresh-roasted beans from a local roaster, grind them yourself with a burr grinder, use filtered water, and don't cheap out on the brewing equipment.
First of all: /r/Coffee
Now that that's out of the way: What's your goal? Are you just disappointed in how your home-made coffee turns out, and want it to be more like the coffee shop experience?
First, let's talk about the coffee itself, before you add anything to your cup. A good cup of coffee, regardless of whether your goal is just a black cup of joe or a fancy espresso drink, absolutely requires good beans, a good grinder, good water, and a proper brew.
Beans:
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Ok, obviously, right? Garbage in, garbage out. The problem is that most of what's out there is closer to "garbage" than it is to "great." Beans should be used within a couple of weeks of when they were roasted. That's not snobbery, that's just a fact - roasted beans lose a considerable amount of flavor after the first few weeks, and most of what you'll buy in the grocery store is already weeks old, maybe even months old. Go find a local coffee roaster and buy beans from them. My local roaster charges the same as (or less than) Starbucks for a pound, and the coffee is considerably better.
Grinder:
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Do not buy pre-ground beans. That bit about using coffee within a couple weeks of roasting? Once you grind it, that drops a lot. You should grind your coffee right before you brew it. However, I would rather use a burr grinder at the time of purchase than use a blade grinder at home. Those will turn some of the beans into fine powder (which will make your coffee bitter), some into big chunks (which will be bland and flavorless). A consistent grind is important, and you can get one from a burr grinder. Use one scoop of grounds per "cup" of coffee (cup is in quote marks because a "cup" of coffee is 6oz, whereas the unit of measure "one cup" is 8oz - your drip maker's carafe should measure by 6oz cups).
Water:
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Coffee is more than 99% water. It stands to reason that shitty water makes shitty coffee. If your tap water has any flavor to it, use filtered or bottled water. If you use tap water, use only cold water. Or, get a coffee maker with a built-in filter and change it on schedule.
Brewing:
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Your equipment really matters. The flavors in a coffee bean come out best at right around 200 degrees Fahrenheit, give or take 5 degrees. A colder brew comes out weak, and a hotter brew extracts nasty bitter flavors. Do you suppose a $20 Mr. Coffee brewer achieves the correct temperature and maintains it for the entire brew cycle every time? It probably doesn't. This is even more important with espresso, where pressure is just as important as temperature. Cheap espresso machines rarely give a quality brew. ("Cheap" for an espresso machine, btw, is generally under $400.)
Now What?
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So, those are the basics. And if you follow them well, you might even find you don't need to add milk or sugar to your cup. Of course, you can - some of the flavors in coffee aren't soluble in water, but they are soluble in fat, so a bit of non-skim milk can actually bring those flavors out.
As for how much cream/sugar to add, well... it's "to taste," as a rule. Taste it black first. Too bold? Add milk. Too bitter? Add sugar. Just a little at a time.
Espresso Drinks
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Espresso-based drinks (generally anything French or Italian-sounding: espresso, cappuccino, americano, cafe latte, cafe au lait, etc) are tough to make at home, because a good electric espresso machine is expensive, and a good manual one can be even more expensive and much harder to use.
A good compromise is a Moka pot. What it makes is not technically espresso (per the Italian Espresso National Institute), but is very nearly the same. They're generally used stovetop, but electric ones are available.
Once you have your espresso, turning it into something else (cappuccino, americano, whatever) is generally about adding ratios of milk, milk foam, and other ingredients. The milk is heated or turned to foam using steam. Espresso machines generally have the steam wand you need in order to do this. A moka pot will not. You can get a standalone milk frother - some just whip air into it like a hand mixer (though much smaller), others actually use steam (but of course are more expensive).
Use this as a guide to building your espresso drinks.
So what equipment do I use, then?
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It always bugs me when people give general advice but won't give specifics. So here's what I use at home:
And there you go - that's how to make coffee that's as good as, or better than, coffee shop coffee at home. I know the giant wall of text makes it seem like a lot but really it comes down to the TL;DR at the top.
The most important things are to get a pump-driven (rather than a steam-driven) machine and get a burr grinder. Steam-driven machines will never get to the right temperature or pressure, and it's impossible to get a small enough, consistent enough grind for espresso with a blade grinder. There are tons of affordable options within those parameters, though.
This is not a popular opinion here, but the DeLonghi EC155 is actually a decent starter machine. I got one just to make sure I'd use a home espresso machine enough to justify a better one, and with a little practice to get the right grind and tamp and a couple minor hacks (running a blank shot through first to get the machine up to the right temperature, and removing the fake-crema-making disc from the portafilter) it turns out perfectly acceptable espresso shots. Especially if you're going to turn them into lattes or mochas. That plus a Capresso Infinity burr grinder and a cheap metal tamper (50mm, as the EC155's portafilter is smaller than the standard 58mm tampers) will run you ~$200 on Amazon and you will be happy with the results.
There is the Rok manual presser, Looks well built but I’ve not tried it.
Another option is to buy a vintage lever machine — if it survived this long it probably will keep going!
Edit: there's also the flair which I've read good things about: https://www.amazon.com/Flair-Espresso-Maker-Bundle-Set/dp/B071DMQ952
You need a grinder as well, the grinder is more important than your machine. The closest acceptable set-up for your budget IMO would be a Baratza Preciso and a Gaggia Classic (a fantastic machine once you get a Silvia steam wand which is not hard to install at all).
The Silvia is a great machine but it isn't worth almost twice what the Gaggia costs, unless you have lots of money laying around, in which case you should probably still get the Gaggia and just get a nicer grinder.
Is this the BES870XL?
Unbelieveable deal at $450
You'll get better-quality shots (and milk) out of a semi-automatic than a superautomatic. If you're set on an all-in-one solution, have a look at the Breville Barista BES870XL
You might have to make your own caramel. You could certainly try the Torani caramel sauce and see if it has the flavor you're looking for.
Buying something like this might get you the espresso and milk you're looking for. Or a Sette 270 and a Gaggia Classic machine (upgrade the steam wand for $30 or so) if you don't mind a separate machine for grinding.
Even a barebones setup that will be frustrating to use is something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-14101-Semi-Automatic-Pannarello-Cappuccino/dp/B0001KOA4Q - Gaggia Classic ($400)
https://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Sette-Conical-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B01G82WVZ0 - Sette 270 ($379)
Not exactly your $600 window, but not insanely far off.
While it's a decent first machine... the Gaggia Classic, IMO, is frustrating to use...but can make a good espresso shot here and there, but will, in general, not be able to make shots back to back or steam at the same time as making a shot (and honestly not even for a minute or so after very well) and the steam tip is not great...and the portafilter that comes with it is frustrating.
You can do some modifications to the Gaggia Classic to make it better - the ones that come to mind are the Silvia V1 steam wand, a bottomless pressureless portafilter, and a PID to reduce the temperature surfing. These all require more money, time, and skill on your part to mod your machine into something that is significantly better than the out of the box experience.
There's really no way around it that good espresso requires funding. Your local (good) coffee shop probably has a $1500-2750 grinder (or two) and a $9000-18000 espresso machine.... along with all the water filtration and miscellaneous hardware that goes with it.
I was able to get a Gaggia Classic as an Amazon Warehouse Deal for like $250. Right now there's one for $270. Mine was completely unused.
My third batch of cold brew. 2:1 dil coffee:water. 450g of SF Bay French Roast with 3.78L Crystal Geyser.
Recently switched from the office coffees. Keurig to the self operating Gagia espresso machine using Cafe Umbria beans. I'm pretty pleased with what I can make at home.
My guess is that if OP is citing 15 as a magic number, they're using one of those DeLonghi machines that advertises itself as running at 15 bar, as if more bars is better. Like this:
https://smile.amazon.com/DeLonghi-BAR32-Retro-Espresso-Cappuccino/dp/B0002A3S66
It could be a machine limitation as much as a grinder limitation, but the issue being "some of both" wouldn't surprise me either.
We got this off Amazon. I used to be a pot a day of drip coffee person and still had issues. Now I have two lattes a day and usually poop after the second one. Sorry everyone about the tmi - but regular pooping is amazing.
Breville BES870CBXL The Barista Express Coffee Machine, Cranberry Red https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DS47652/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_NlXHreLIN49bK
THats a flair Flair Espresso Maker - Manual Press https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X916JM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7P2zDb8E491AE
Heard it’s hard to make with the manual since you lose heat during the whole process, but if you have the patience of trial and error you’ll save quite a bit of money!
Edit: just realized that’s the pro https://www.flairespresso.com/pro
I love my DeLonghi EC685M Dedica. I bought it barely used on craigslist for $110.
If you're handy, there's a cool DIY mod to swap out the semi-manual steam wand with a fully manual one. There are a few videos and guides but here is one.
I bought a $500 espresso machine and it sits unused in a closet. What we're saying is that good home espresso machines are very expensive.
Now, if you want espresso like coffee, you might try a Vietnamese Coffee Maker.
You can try an aeropress, which I don't particularly care for, but makes small, strong coffees.
Now, I've heard good things about the mypressi, but haven't had a chance to try one. This is probably the cheapest decent espresso shot puller you can find.
For a true espresso machine, /r/coffee recommends the Baby Gaggia. I haven't tried this one, either.
I think the bog standard espreso machine falls between:
The Gaggia Classic $387 and the Rancilio Silvia $629
You already have a great grinder. you could save up a bit for a plumed semi-commercial E61 machine $1500-$2000+
Keurig is still a step up from your usual drip coffee sludge. The problem here is that the market of homebrewers is a lot smaller than coffee drinkers and the cost barrier is a lot higher. A starting out coffee drinker is probably willing to spend a hundred bucks to get a better cup of coffee, then maybe move on to something better later on. This thing requires an investment comparable to what you would for a high end all grain system and a keggerator. How many new brewers are going to be willing to do that when they might do two beers and then give up?
My take is that this thing would only be worth having if I built it myself. Then it's more in the vein of an automated HERMS system, which is something I could see doing some day.
WLL sells the older model Classic.
I'm not sure if all US models (i.e. from Amazon) are like this or not, but some of the Classic experts here should be able to enlighten you.
Depends on your budget. A few that I've seen /r/Coffee recommend are:
Saeco Aroma
Gaggia Classic
Crossland CC1
But keep in mind that the Grinder is more important than the machine. A solid coffee grinder that can offer a consistent find grind will cost you at least 300 bucks.
Also, you should look into tamping, understanding PIDs, and knowing about different portafilters and what they are capable of.
Espresso is the last thing I'm planning to touch because of the sheer effort and spectacularly high price requirements for a college student such as myself.
Agree. The old fashioned way is the best way. But if you just want to spend money buy something like this Delonghi Expresso Maker.
Price range will dictate alot of this.
My wife and I got the De'Longhi EC155 a couple Christmases ago. When we got it we passively enjoyed coffee and lattes (very low standards).
But its been like a gateway drug and we've been piecing together our coffee arsenal. Like the other poster said though, the grinder will make a bigger difference.
You can get small espresso machines with steam wands for fairly cheap, like this one for $90. Then you can make all the lattes your heart desires! (Granted you have espresso beans and a grinder.)
My De'Longhi espresso machine's recently taken to "leaking." As the water heats to ideal temperature for brewing, it sounds like a valve or internal component isn't closing, so there's a hissing sound and water leisurely drips down into the catch for some period of time before it rights itself again. I don't know how to fix the problem or even where to start, so help would be appreciated!
You know, if you have the time to make them in the mornings, you should invest in an espresso machine with a milk steamer to make your morning mochas. You can get a nice automatic one that still makes espresso with excellent crema by Nespresso for $111 on amazon plus the cost of a milk steamer or frother and the pods. Or you can get something nicer that is more manual like this De'Longhi espresso machine with milk wand. In the long run, it's way cheaper to make these things yourself even if you are doing fancier espresso based drinks vs plain black coffee.
I bought this guy as a cheap machine a while back. Twice the price as your Mr. Coffee.
http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347649968&sr=8-1&keywords=delonghi+ec155
Delonghi EC155. It was an okay machine at first, espresso okay with its pressurized basket and steamed okay milk with its little plastic attachment. I bought a non pressurized basket and changed the steam wand out along with chopping off the bottom where the basket goes.
NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE especially with the new basket. It made okay espresso before with fake crema but NOW IT DOES IT FOR REALS.
Also my grinder wasn't cutting it much anymore (bodum burr grinder) so I just hooked up my power drill to my kyocera hand grinder and that works like a charm until I can afford a better grinder
Edit: For anybody interested in the new basket it is this basket: (MP68) La Pavoni Europiccola/Professional - Millennium Model Double Shot Basket
Also steam wand is (R_1054) Rancilio Silvia Steam Wand I don't recommend if you are not mechanically inclined, I had to basically take apart the entire unit to swap it out.... but the pressure now is AMAZING.
I have the DeLonghi Ec155 and love it. I still only have a blade grinder because the espresso machine was a birthday gift and I haven't saved up the money for a good burr grinder yet, but it still tastes great. It does have a milk frother, but its a bit awkward to use because the stem is so short, so I sometimes just use the AeroLatte milk frother.
I have had it for a few years now and I think it makes great espresso. It has 15 bar pressure, not just pump driven like some of the espresso machines out there. I did mess my first one up by leaving it on milk frothing mode for 2 hours, and fried something. That was a problem with the newer ones and they fixed that issue and sent me a new one for free.
The only problem is finding a correct size tamper. It does have a plastic tamper on the upper right, but I wanted to get a free standing one. I had to settle and get one that is slightly too small.
You need to have room in your budget for a grinder. That being said, that would put the Astra out of your preferred budget. But it does seem like an excellent machine for the price point (no experience here).
If you're wanting to do primarily milk drinks, and concerned about ease, the Brevillle Double Boiler is <$1,000 now. But that leaves no room for a decent grinder - the Breville Smart Grinder Pro is about all that would fit into your budget. A nice upgrade on grinder to a Baratza Sette 270 will set you back another $200.
If you need to save money, consider the Breville Infuser rather than the DB.
Lots of folk will encourage you to look at more commercial duty machines that have simpler maintenance, and in the long run they're correct. But if you only have what you have, that's a pretty good bang for your buck. The machine will probably not be as long-lasting as one of the E61 HX machines, but there's not many out there in your budget. There are a few, like the Lelit Mara but that one doesn't have a very long history like some of the more commonly-recommended machines (that are also more pricey).
https://imgur.com/a/Vom8lPv
This is what the current set up looks like. I have some saucers/cups from a great company out of Los Angeles NotNeutral. They're designed wonderful, it's been hard finding a consumer maker of more modern designed espresso cups and they've got some great design. After that is a Breville Barista Express. I'm pulling an espresso blend from a UK roaster called Redemption Roasters. Aside from the quality beans they have an amazing ethos and company vision, highly recommend all coffee lovers read up on what they do and how they do it.
Also pictured is the Behmor 1600 Roaster. I have been learning how to roast and the folks over at r/roasting have been an incredibly help. I am usually pulling single origins that I have roasted myself but I'm leaving for vacation soon and a friend was kind enough to gift me the Redemption beans!
For twice your budget (just under $600) you can buy a Breville Barista Express. My brother-in-law has one and he won't shut up about how great it is. It produces nice espresso and is a fully automatic. I'm not sure how involved the maintenance schedule is, but if it's anything like their dual boiler, parts can be replaced and their tech support is actually helpful and very knowledgeable (I had to use them for my dual boiler).
you can check out the reviews on Amazon.
If you're willing up your budget, this might be what you're looking for.
We got a nice one for our engagement gift, let me ask my fiancé the brand of it: Edit it’s a Breville Barista Express Espresso Machine, BES870XL https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_m31RDbK8GYJAR
Don't know if this helps but I see the stainless steel on sale for $459.99 on Amazon right now. https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU
Decided to check out thebay.com... did a quick/dirty search for a mid-end espresso machine, found a Breville BREBES870XL on their site and one on Amazon.ca
Thebay.com Regular $799, on sale for $680 + $30 express shipping.
Amazon.ca Regular price $799, on sale for $599, Free shipping for Amazon Prime members.
Since both The Bay and Amazon are owned by American companies, I feel no particular reason to spend and extra $111 with The Bay just because the US private equity fund that owns them is trying to squeeze my "national pride" for a few extra bucks.
Get a breville and grind the beans separately. Having a machine that does both is risky, because if any part breaks you are kind of screwed. That being said, http://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1427815454&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=breville+espresso
is a work horse and I would suggest it to anyone.
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$390 all in for equipment, with the caveat that it is all manual.
Plus the ongoing cost of good freshly roasted beans with lots of waste involved in dialing in your grinder and coffee. Would recommend Daterra Brazil Sweet Blue from Redbird https://redbirdcoffee.com/collections/coffee-selections/products/brazil-sweet-blue 5lb for $60. Repackage into ziplocs inside mason jars and deepfreeze most of it to maintain a supply of fresh beans.
I’ve been using the Delonghi Dedica por the past 2 years with zero problems. It’s come down in price recently so it’s worth a look:
https://www.amazon.ca/Delonghi-EC685M-Dedica-Espresso-Machine/dp/B072WZL4ZT
Double boiler. Nice.
I got this, which I guess is more than $200 like I thought (Christmas gift). Still, it looks cozy and brews well.
https://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-Semi-Automatic-Pannarello-Cappuccino-Frothing/dp/B0001KOA4Q
Is this what you're referring to? Wouldnt I need a coffee grinder as well then?
I had a Gaggia Classic imported via US Amazon last year. I’ve been using it as is (no electrical converter) twice a day for over a year now. Love it! I upgraded the factory steam wand to the Rancilio Silvia by watching YouTube tutorials. Also, if you check my post history, I asked a similar question in r/coffee last year.
Here’s a link:
Gaggia 14101 Classic Semi-Automatic Espresso Maker. Pannarello Wand for Latte and Cappuccino Frothing. Brews for Both Single and Double Shots. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001KOA4Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JN1sDb1AW1EJH
Budget the grinder first. Since you're OK with used, I recommend the Coffeegeek Buy/Sell/Trade forum. The Silvia is a very nice machine, but I think the price has gotten a little high. I've tasted and enjoyed the output of a Le'lit PL041, which is a very similar machine. I can't speak to its durability, though. I owned a Gaggia Classic for a long time and it was a great machine. It was modified with a PID controller for better temperature control.
I think either of those is a better deal than a Silvia and leaves more budget for a grinder, which is far more important than the machine. All the machines at this price point are a little finicky; a great grinder will make a much bigger difference than any of the differences between the individual machines.
I have been lurking around this sub for months researching my first espresso machine. The gist of what I found is:
https://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-14101-Semi-Automatic-Pannarello-Cappuccino/dp/B0001KOA4Q/
Welcome to the rabbit hole of espresso drinks :)
Edit for formatting and adding link to Gaggia Classic.
Seattle Coffee Gear are just an operation aimed at shifting lots of machines. I wouldn't necessarily trust their advice (or at least I wouldn't rely on it wholly given that their main aim is to get you to buy, not necessarily buy the right thing). The grinder is not really espresso suitable, and to suggest it "matches" the machine it is embedded in is slightly disingenuous of them.
$600 is not a bad budget for setting yourself up. Buying used would get you a very decent set up for that money (check my recent post history for a link to a long ramble on how to do that). But if you are buying new, I'd look seriously at my grinder first (its the most important bit of your set up) and aim for something like this as a grinder - the Lelit P53 is a really decent entry level espresso grinder and currently exceptionally priced http://www.1st-line.com/store/pc/Lelit-PL53-Fred-Espresso-Coffee-Grinder-doserless-stepless-12p1979.htm An alternative might be the Baratza Preciso, which sells as a refurb on the Baratza site for around $249 when they have stock in. Baratza have a reputation for excellent customer service, so you can buy refurb from them with a lot of confidence.
That would leave $350-370 for a machine, which would get you this http://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-14101-Classic-Espresso-Stainless/dp/B0001KOA4Q/ and leave you some spare change for some coffee beans. Or you could buy the original Classic model for a few $$ more which some coffee geeks seem to rate slightly more than the 2015 model - there are some here http://www.amazon.com/GAGGIA-CLASSIC-ESPRESSO-COFFEE-MACHINE/dp/B0000C72XS
The Classic is a...classic. Its a massively known and understood machine, with a huge user community able to advise and help on its quirks and foibles. Its capable of being hacked and modded to improve its performance, and even unpacked is a pretty decent bit of kit to start out and learn on.
Having said ALL of that, if what you want to do is to make caramel lattes, espresso quality and upgradeability may not be your primary concern, as milk and sugar mask espresso pretty well, which may mean that - in fact the Barista Express is indeed the best option out there for you :-)
To be honest you can't buy anything that makes real espresso for anywhere near that price. This is the cheapest machine I could recommend buying that is labeled as an espresso machine. I would look into an Aeropress, It makes a very strong espresso like coffee, as it uses some pressure. It's honestly your best option around that price. You can go the moka pot route which blabberingparrot mentioned; however, these are a little more difficult to use and require a stove. Another good option at the price point, but not espresso, is a Chemex, amazing way to make strong black coffee. French press as well.
Gaggia Classic might be what you're looking for. Baratza encore can work for espresso grinds, but if you can you may want to go for the higher up models in Baratza's line.
What would you recommend as an alternative? For the same price, it sounds like I could get something like a entry-tier pump driven espresso machine (Delonghi BAR32, EC155, or similar) only, and still need to buy a grinder. From what I've seen, it doesn't appear to be too difficult to get the capsules (around 60-70c each though), although there are limited options because it can only make espresso.
> I bought myself a bar32 delonghi for ~99 bucks in december from amazon.
Is this the one you bought?
I have the cheap an inexpensive De'longhi
http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1395839459&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=delonghi+espresso
You make an excellent point. So I guess its get the coffee that tastes good and mix it with the espresso shot. Thanks for the info :)
Broke college student here, I'm also a barista that's use to having amazing, freshly roasted coffee. So far, no one has lied. AMAZING espresso IS expensive. But can you make a latte as well as your local cafe? With a little practice, time and money, yes.
My current home setup consists of a Delonghi EC155, this is a true espresso machine, it's not steam powered and with a little modification and practice makes good espresso. Modification wise the only thing I'd recommend is depressurizing the portafilter basket, which is easy. If you ever want a better machine but don't want to spend the money you can modify it even more. They're vary popular machines and can be modified to pull amazing shots. They go anywhere from 70-130, however, occasionally things get repacked or the packaging gets damaged in the warehouse. They'll offer them at a hefty discount, I just got mine "reboxed" from amazon for 47 dollars, wait a few days and one will come up. If you use your student email you can get Amazon Prime for free, take advantage of that.
http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1396498476&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=delonghi+ec155
I also got this tamper, works well, it's a little light for my tastes but for home use it's fine. The EC155 has a 52mm basket, if having a 50mm tamper bothers you then pay the extra few bucks for a 52mm tamper. Personally doesn't bother me, and it was only 7 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Espresso-Tamper-Sizes-Alloy-Coffee/dp/B0001XRNEM/ref=pd_bxgy_k_text_z
Here's a milk frothing cup, you'll need it to properly froth milk. You can poorly froth milk in a microwave but why do that when you can spend an extra 8 dollars and do it properly? I personally got mine for a dollar from a thrift store.
http://www.amazon.com/Update-International-EP-12-Stainless-Frothing/dp/B000MR6I9I/ref=pd_bxgy_hg_text_y
I got one of these grinders years ago for around 20 dollars. I've seen them used, repackaged, and refurbished for about that much. Wait around and a deal will come up. You can also get a Hario Mini and a number of other hand grinders. But this one does just fine. Now out of the box it won't grind fine enough for espresso, however, with about 20 minutes worth of work you can shim it and it'll grind perfectly for espresso. It's not hard and anyone can do it with a screw driver and some tin foil.
http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DBM-8-Supreme-Grind-Automatic/dp/B00018RRRK/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1396498766&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=cuisinart+grinder
At this point if you're willing to wait for a deal on the EC155 you've only spent 107 dollars. Even less if you're willing to wait on a deal for the burr grinder as well. If you want AMAZING coffee you can spend another 27 dollars and get an Aeropress, or wait for a deal and get it for 20 dollars. It will make a coffee concentrate which will taste "okay" for a latte.
At this point, I cannot recommend going to your local coffee houses and asking if you can buy green beans. They typically sell green coffee for 5-8 dollars a pound. You can roast your own coffee with a skillet and a whisk, or a popcorn popper, there are hundreds of ways to do it cheaply and it easy. You'll save money and you'll be drinking tastier coffee.
Don't let these people get you down, good espresso doesn't have to be expensive. Feel free to message me if you have any questions!
DeLonghi EC155 15 Bar Pump Espresso and Cappuccino Maker: Cheap and fast, and can be had for ~ 40$ today, using Amazon's coupon OCTGET20.
So I was recently gifted a Delonghi EC155 which I do love and as far as my beginner tastes go, decent espresso.
However I was reading on the Amazon reviews and I am really confused on how the grounds should be packed in the portafilter and the instructions don't help much.
So I load the grounds do a light tamp so it's even (like the instructions say) but the grounds ALWAYS come out soggy and there for make it a pain to clean. I always thought they were supposed to come out more like a puck that falls out easier, am I doing something wrong?
De'Longhi EC155 15 BAR Pump Espresso and Cappuccino Maker by DeLonghi http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_tjOXtb0F4PE0Y
Yeah I'll X-post it.
I am using this.
Delonghi is the best cheap brand. I have a $250 that I love, not sure about sub $100, but quick amazon search shows this one as an option:
De'Longhi EC155 15 BAR Pump Espresso and Cappuccino Maker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8EhACbX9DB7FK
Edit: also, spend $20 and get a stainless steel tamper. So much better than the plastic ones they include.
It took me a long time to make a perfect cup of coffee. Here is what I do:
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001QTVXCS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1)
Here is a 10 minute Ted Talk on: The culinary art of coffee
I got this and am incredibly happy with it:
http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG?SubscriptionId=0K76CZ6RCX2Y05HSNPR2&amp;tag=plp-sdc-wtb-20&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=2025&amp;creative=165953&amp;creativeASIN=B000F49XXG&amp;ascsubtag=espresso-machines
My favorite drink was a latte made using the office's DeLonghi Espresso Machine.
I got very, very good at it.
If I was feeling carbonated, though, I'd get Coke Zero or Diet Mt. Dew.
Well then! Back in High School, I was in the Marching band. Additionally, I was also in Jazz band as a drummer / percussionist. One of my most favorite moments was when the band director (also a drummer / percussionist) let me bring my drumset to a football game. Needless to say, this pissed off the drumline (not that I really cared) and the "drum line instructor." I loved playing my set in front of the crowd at games :).
I wish you the Most wonderful time at school and good luck with year 3! I think everyone needs one of these at school. Or anywhere really :P
Thank you for the contest!
I have the De'Longhi EC155 15 BAR Pump Espresso and Cappuccino Maker. It had the best reviews for a cheap consumer machine. If I had the cash to spend I would get an expensive one... alas, I just bought a house and I feel as though I will never have money to spare again...
You can get something like this for around $300-400 used, and it is pretty good for the price.
The problem is that you can't really buy preground espresso, and espresso grinders start at $300 so finding a setup for $100-200 is nearly impossible.
That said, if you really must have decent espresso for under $200, get this Delonghi for $90 and a Hario hand grinder for $25. You'll have decent espresso, but it will be a lot of work.
I've had this for about 6 months:
De'Longhi EC155 15 BAR Pump Espresso and Cappuccino Maker
$81.79 down from $140
It really is great for an introductory machine, I've had no complaints. :)
I understand and share your fondness for espresso. While it is more expensive, it doesn't have to be quite as expensive as everyone makes it out to be. I get delicious shots out of my $200 Lello machine with a Baratza grinder. Pairing this and that with some good espresso beans will make you mighty happy, but the total tab would come out closer to $300.
Until your budget is at least that much, it doesn't even make sense to spend half of that to get something that won't be 1/10th of what you want. Wait a few more months and go straight to espresso.
If you want to start making coffee at home now, consider buying that Baratza grinder now, along with an aeropress or pour over cone, then add a good pump espresso machine when you can.
When it comes to non-espresso brewing methods, here's how I'd rank them from my experience from easiest to most difficult to get a good cup: aeropress, pour-over, french press, filterless (cupping, ibrik, etc), siphon, espresso. I've personally never made coffee with a moka pot. Interestingly, coffee seems to get better with some of the more difficult methods, but pour-over is still what I do most often. Here's a bit more detail about my experience with each:
Aeropress - I make it at my gf's place with a whirly grinder and stovetop kettle, no measurement equipment whatsoever. Coffee amount varies wildly, as does water temperature, grind size, and seeping time. It's very hard to make a bad cup of coffee here.
Pour over - easiest of all to cleanup (easier than aeropress, IMO), but I've gotten poor cups when eyeballing the amount of coffee to use. Coffee to water ratio is quite important and I strongly suggest using a scale to make a good cup.
French Press - Relatively easy, but, again, coffee-to-water ratio, grind size, and steep time is a bit more sensitive than pour over. Also seems to take forever in the morning if I'm on my way out the door.
Brewing without a filter or any special device, just mixing ground coffee and hot water in your cup - it's a bit artsy and it's fun to really have physical control over the process of removing the grounds from the coffee with a spoon (or decanting, in the case of the ibrik). I just included this one as a minimalist option. It's my preferred method to make coffee during ultralight backpacking.
Siphon - This brewing method is a bit cumbersome, sensitive to time and temperature and pressure and grind size just to make it work. I've made some terribly over and underextracted cups, stalled numerous times with a glass drain rod, and overall just haven't fallen in love with this brew method. It's still fun to play with, but I rarely find myself with the time or patience.
Espresso - I've got my setup pretty well dialed in, but so many shots are pulled in the process. Coffee amount, water temperature, and water amount are largely taken care of for you, but grind size and tamp pressure are pretty sensitive parameters. This method is also sensitive to bean type. For kicks, I pulled a shot of a single origin I roasted really light and it tasted like someone squeezed a lemon in my little cup.
Despite the increased complexity, some of the most rewarding cups have come from the espresso machine and siphon pot. But even with pour over, you can get some amazing, mind blowing coffee. The variation in flavor and texture is like the difference between an IPA and a stout, and sometimes you're in the mood for one or the other.
I just bought this grinder too, I was reading the reviews and everyone says that this is the best for its price range, especially for beginners (which I am). I paired it with the Capresso EC100 Pump Espresso and Cappuccino Machine Which grind setting are you using for espresso? I am looking to make my first cappuccino tonight.
Go for the espresso maker! We have this cheapy one and it works great. There's probably even cheaper ones that get the job done.
They can be "compared", in the sense that they're closer to top-end in espresso making ability than this is.
> Yeah I was looking into some machines but I didn't really know any quality ones. One of them was like a keurig machine but the thought of having to buy the little capsules was a turn off. Another one I saw had a milk frother but I'm pretty sure you guys could recommend a better one, I'll link it down below.
Yeah, that sucks. Personally, if you want a pre-arranged system, I'd go for the Illy/Francis Francis pair. But you can get a good pressurized basked machine for, like, 300 or 400 bucks and even use standard pre-ground coffee. It's not gonna be as good as a really good machine, but you might never know if you never get a coffee from a 1000$-machine.
> Also, in terms of the grinder, are beans ever sold already ground? Because I've never really seen people with a grinder usually they just have a coffee machine. Mind you, nobody i've seen is as into coffee as the hobbyists here.
Where I am, they are - at my supermarket, there are some beans you can only get pre-ground.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007K9OIMU?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I'd say you won't get super happy with that machine.
The reason is that when something is automated in a coffee machine, it will be consistent, but of worse quality then the same with manual control.
That applies both to espresso and the milk. Manual control allows you to make the little teeny tiny steps better, which results in way better quality. Also, I'd never trust an automatic milk frother.
I got the Breville Infuser and Smart Grinder Pro from Amazon a couple of weeks ago. I love them. By no means am I an expert, but I enjoy the shots I pull just as much as from coffee shops using La Marzoccos. Yes the beans, barista, and placebo all play into that, but it still pulls a great shot and is pretty affordable. You could even go cheaper and get the Duo Temp Pro which could functionally be the same as the Infuser and is $100 cheaper so you could spend it on cups, knockbox, distributor but the infuser would still put you under budget. I went with the infuser because you can adjust the temperature and you can pull manually or preset volume, which allows you to eliminate that variable for a consistent shot and you can see how your tamp/grind are as the program pulls 60mL (2oz) no matter what and so you can gauge what you need to do to dial that volume in for the proper extraction time. Downside is that if you want a naked portafilter then you gotta DIY or buy one from Aus for like $150, but I don’t think it’s a huge deal and if you do then maybe that’s where your extra budget could go. The pressure gauge is also nice although it won’t really tell you what you don’t already know from extraction time.
I can’t say this is the best machine for the price (although Seattle Coffee Gear did so take that as you will) but I can highly recommend it. I would get it over the Barista Express as the extra $50 for a dedicated grinder is totally worth it as it is more versatile and I’ve heard it’s a better grinder than the built in one. I also recommend it over the Gaggia. Although it does not have the modabilitiy of the Classic, it has most of the features that people mod the Gaggia for already, plus it uses a traditional steam arm instead of a panarello like the Gaggia, and has stainless steel lined thermocoil instead of aluminum thermoblock.
Overall would definitely recommend going separate grinder and machine no matter what.
I know you're looking for something under $500, but if you could save a little more, this would be an a great espresso machine to get. The steam wand would be stronger, which would allow you to get micro foam for latte art. Also, it has a decent grinder for espresso, which is SUPER important. You don't just want a "decent grinder", you need a grinder that will grind good for espresso.
https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_2?s=home-garden&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524237611&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=brewville
I've been using the Breville 870 for about 14 months now and I do not regret the purchase. It is currently $570.
You've got a few options. But first, you need to figure out if you like specifically iced americanos or if you're just looking for some really good iced coffee.
If you're just looking for really good iced coffee, I'd buy a Toddy. I know, it doesn't do espresso, but you can brew large batches of concentrated coffee and water it down and add ice and you've got some really great iced coffee. It's worth a shot if all you're wanting to make are iced americanos.
There are also a ton of other ways to make iced coffee but I find the Toddy is my favorite.
If you really want specifically iced americanos, I'd look into a Breville machine. They are cheaply priced and can give you a ton of options if you ever want to try doing lattes and stuff at home. There are better machines but I'm not sure what your budget is. This one has a grinder and a steaming wand as well and it's only $600. It's a good machine for home use especially if you've got a tighter budget.
Buena maquina de cafe. El buen cafe es buen cafe, nada de lattes, starbucks, espumita, crema y esa gilada. https://www.amazon.ca/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_1?tag=&amp;s=kitchen&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1502206150&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Barista+Express
I got this one a week ago and am pretty happy with it:
http://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449843032&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=breville+870xl
The restaurant I run has a La Marzocco Linea that I'm used to, so that somewhat qualifies me as a fancy coffee asshole.
I think you are thinking of this version
Bro if you can spend 1500CAN rancilio isnt worth it.. its great build but alot of wait between each action..
here is a few options i gathered for you.. browsed alot to get best rates and sale prices for you.. all prices in CAD
Espresso
i have selected afew grinders for you, u can adjust your budget accordingly and what suits you..
Grinders:
P.S if you can spend upto 2500CAD than u can get really awesome setup.. Rocket Appartamento $1900 with Baratza Sette 270 $530
I picked up the capresso ultima pro, makes good drinks on the small setting using the big portafilter attachment, basically ristretto shots. Can get it at BBB using 20% off for $160
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01CR73S5C/ref=psd_mlt_nbc_B01D3LZU1Q_pb
Manual lever espresso machines have been around for a very long time.
Some newer iterations you add the water manually (1), (2).
There are a plethora (3) of machines that have the boiler and sometimes a steam-wand built in. There are even new 5-figure versions still being introduced (4).
However, if you want to make your own, that would be an exciting challenge. I have seen a few cross-sections of machines that should get your brain off to the races (5), (6).
https://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-ECP3120-Espresso-Cappuccino-Stainless/dp/B07CTY9BFG/ref=sr_1_25?keywords=delonghi&qid=1559262541&s=gateway&sr=8-25
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Just buy pre-ground such as Bustello, or https://www.amazon.com/s?k=coffee+espresso+grind&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
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I've owned nothing but these and then ESAM 3300.
I love coffee too. I recently got a delonghi espresso machine (this one or close to it https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07CTY9BFG/ref=psdcmw_14162661_t2_B000F49XXG)
Really great investment. Making espresso with your own choice of beans, freshly ground, is amazing. The frother works fine and once you get a knack for it I think you can make drinks on par or superior to Starbucks stuff.
If you enjoy coffee and don't have a gizmo like that you owe it to yourself to get one!
> if you want something close to an espresso with crema.
It's not going to make you an espresso, but it'll be darn close for pretty much the cheapest price. I do plan on getting something like a Gaggia Classic some time in the near future. But for starters, the Brikka is definitely better than the traditional drip coffee.
i have found just today this one: http://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-14101-Classic-Espresso-Stainless/dp/B0001KOA4Q/
on paper it looks good and is quite cheap at 230 euros
For a fancy latte, I calculated I save an average of $752/year within the first two years: $577 in the first year and $927 in the second year (because the coffee machine would be part of the costs in the first year but not the second).
We own a Gaggia Classic which we got on sale for $350. We buy a bag of espresso from Wegmans for each week ($7), a gallon of milk ($3) and vanilla syrup (1/4 bottle = $2). So that comes out to $974 for the machine and supplies each week for the first year. After the machine is bought, it's only $624 for a year of supplies.
A tall vanilla latte from Starbucks is about $4.25. To have one every day (like I do my homemade latte) for a year, it's $1,551.25 dollars.
First year = $1551.25 - $974 = $577.25 savings
Second year = $1551.25 - $624 = $927.25 = savings
Two year average = $752.25/year
A espresso machine.
I do love kitchen tools, but I'm currently spending money on nothing that I can't absolutely live without now that I graduated and have to start paying off student loans. I currently have a french press and a moka pot for my coffee needs, but I can't froth milk or pull a strong shot for cappuccino and espresso.
I've survived so far without one, although now that I am going to start working pretty much around the clock, I'm not sure if making proper coffee is going to happen very often.
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
https://www.amazon.ca/Gaggia-14101-Classic-Brushed-Stainless/dp/B0001KOA4Q
The one on CL for $600 was only 3 months old. With tax, a new one will be $720.
The general consensus here seems to be to aim for a Gaggia machine as the absolute minimum. Preferably a Gaggia Classic (~$388).
I've heard people recommend the lower priced Gaggia New Baby (~$300) to try out espresso and to help decide whether "to get a real espresso machine".
A step up from that, the recommendation seems to be the Crossland CC1, but that's in the $600+ range.
To save some money, you might do better finding a used machine or see if they're on sale at different sites.
If you want to go cheaper than that, people have recommended the MyPressi ($170), but I have not seen that in stock anywhere recently. There's some buzz regarding the MiniPresso (Preorder at $39), but that won't be out until 2015. So there won't be any reviews regarding it for a while.
As for grinder, if you're looking for cheap, you might have to make do with a hand grinder, either Hario Skerton (~$35) or Mini (~$26) or Porlex (~$43). The cheapest acceptable electric grinder seems to be the Baratza Preciso at $300.
This is the information I've gathered anyway. I don't have any personal experience with an espresso machine, but I hope this helps. If you decide to go with something, post your experience and help some people out.
Personally, I'm thinking of saving up for the CC1 and Vario (~$1000) combo...
Cool! Burr grinder is just as important as the machine in terms of espresso making. If you are going for small form and good value, check out the Saeco Aroma and the Gaggia Classic. I recently went through the entry level machine research phase and the overwhelming consensus was that these are the two best value entry-level machines. I ended up going with the Gaggia Classic (I found it used for $270 shipped) and am super happy with it. It doesn't take up a ton of counter space. It seems that the Saeco Aroma is significantly more compact though, if you look at the dimensions.
Good luck and congrats on the wedding!
Idk, this looks more like a kcup dispenser https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001KOA4Q/ref=psdc_14163731_t1_B00004S9G8
This says “i make espresso” https://m.bedbathandbeyond.com/m/product/breville-reg-infuser-espresso-machine/3244992
I don't know where you live, but in the US the "good" version is still on the market. As others have said, apparently Whole Latte Love sells it and so does Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001KOA4Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
I literally just got mine from Amazon 3 days ago and it is the RI9303 (model 14101). It has the aluminum boiler, 3-way solenoid, and over pressure valve (I opened it up to be sure). The "bad" version is the RI9403... which from everything I have read, is only sold in Europe.
As a comparison, here is the RI9403 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gaggia-New-Classic-Brushed-Chrome/dp/B00SBLMICS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421526213&sr=8-1&keywords=RI9403). Notice on the RI9403 the different control buttons, the plastic portafilter spouts, and the lack of the solenoid drain tube on the left side that you can clearly see on the US version (RI9303).
Do you know if there has been a change in the build quality of the Gaggia 14101 Classic? I was planning on getting it but I'll have to reevaluate my options if it turns out the quality is not what it used to be.
link to one such machine
Exactly. Some old co-workers used to brew it, and it wasn't terrible...but get a ~$100 espresso machine and it's great.
I use this one - http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-BAR32-Retro-Espresso-Cappuccino/dp/B0002A3S66/ref=sr_1_23?s=kitchen&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1449223525&amp;sr=1-23
How can I tell if my little home espresso machine is putting out actual espresso or just strong drip coffee? I am using a Delonghi BAR32 that I got as a gift and a Baratza Encore grinder. (The innards of the espresso machine are supposed to be the same as EC155.)
I have an older version of Breville 800 XL I bought used.
https://www.amazon.ca/Breville-BRE800ESXL-Duo-Temp-Commercial-Espresso/dp/B00092ZVXA/ref=sr_1_4/153-1911979-8924147?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1472939398&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=breville+800+xl
Doesn't compare to nicer high-end espresso machines like something from Marzocco, but for a home machine does everything you want it to and more. Foam is silky smooth.
Main downside is that it can only heat up enough water for about 1.5 lattes (espresso shot + steaming the milk). You need to wait about 10 minutes before making a second one, or it'll come out a little watery.
I ordered the Breville 800ESXL from amazon.ca on sale.... which it seems it still is. You have to pack your own espresso and tamp it manually, so no I wouldn't say it's 'as good' as a commercial cafe machine. I've seen pricier models that grind, and pack the espresso automatically. But the pressure is high enough to get a nice crema on the coffee, and the duo temp steams the milk without burning the espresso.
For the two of us the machine works just fine.
De'Longhi EC155 15 BAR Pump Espresso and Cappuccino Maker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gGexxbA04THHT
What about this one? Think it's a step up?
My girlfriend used to drink a cup of sugar-milk with a drop of coffee. Now shes down to just a splash of cream or almond milk. Granted, I'm the only one who actually makes the coffee and i just slowly transitioned her to almost completely black.
If just straight black coffee is too much for you now, like it was for her and I, you should experiment with a cheap espresso machine . Espresso has a much different taste then regular black coffee and there's so much you can do with it. Perhaps steamed milk can help you transition because warming it gives it a sweeter taste than it would have cold.
I've only had mine a year...but I bought it used. It's held up great and can be bought new under $100
De'longhi
I replaced a Krups with this De'Longhi one last year and I'm really happy with it, for the price. I've seen it at Best Buy too, and it got the seal of approval of a friend of mine who owns a coffee roasters/shop in Santa Fe.
I had an $80 De'Longhi that I used for 3 years before upgrading to my Rancilio Silvia. It pulls a decent and consistent shot, I used it practically every day.
You can get one of the cheap grinders from Target. If you can afford it go for the Bodium Burr Grinder.
I have an aeropress but I liked the espresso from the cheap machine better. Especially for Iced Lattes :D
I just dug up the receipt, I paid 100 for it a year ago (apparently it's only been a year, not 'years'). After I bought it I saw it below 90$.
It's probably a discontinued model at this point but I'm sure you can find the next generation of it.
There's also the DeLonghi EC155 which has excellent reviews, costs $75, and I think you can even get it at target so you can try it out to see how much you like it. I ordered this one for a friend and she likes it but I've only used the Salton which I wouldn't be surprised if was a better build.
its called that
https://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=sr_1_5?s=home-garden&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1493953604&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=cappuccino+maker
It's impossible to help pick out a gift for someone you know absolutely nothing about. Does she drink coffee? Get her a nice espresso maker. You could do the same for tea or cocoa. If she cooks you could go for some small appliance that would make it easier. Juicers seem to be popular these days.
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What's your opinion on this machine. This is the one I bought a while ago: De'Longhi EC155 15 BAR Pump Espresso and Cappuccino Maker https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_6uo1CbFZ3RQQJ
You'd be better off getting a cheap pump driven machine IMO, even with a sub $50 budget - for example, Amazon Warehouse has a used EC155 for $41.99 in "Like New" condition (linked below). It is no Gaggia Classic but it will get you in the ballpark so you don't feel like upgrading 2 weeks after you purchase. If you can get an unpressurized portafilter for it, use fresh roasted beans (beans roasted less than ~15 days before grinding), and ideally grind right before you brew you'll likely be more than happy for the time being - especially if you are making milk based drinks.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000F49XXG/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all&qid=1549859440&sr=8-13
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Cheap espresso? No such thing! About the best you'll do is an "entry-level" espresso machine for around $85. Your mileage may vary: I haven't used a low-end machine like that, but reviews are.... mixed.
Besides, it's very possible your management will object to an 1100-watt, hot-to-the-touch device running at a desk. Maybe you can put it in a "break room" type area or something.
Otherwise, you're looking at a handpresso or similar for $100+, and you'll still need to find a way to get hot water (but it sounds like you have that, if you're using an aeropress). This will make pretty decent espresso once you get the hang of it.
A good espressomachine is not cheap, but you can get some decent ones from around $300 and up. If you have the money I'd suggest something from the Breville Barista Express series.
However, if you only want to get better coffee than from a Keurig there are several alternatives for around $100. Check out the De'Longhi EC155 as an example.
If you really want good coffee you also have to invest in a grinder. The Breville BES870XL Barista Express is a good machine with a built in grinder and despite the price(which is to consider very low for such a machine) it will blow your mind.
you won't find a super automatic machine within your price range, i think the best you'll be able to find is a semi automatic machine with pressurized baskets, the process flow would be something like this:
Here's an example of a machine like that in your range (and here's a demo video of it), but honestly espresso from pressurized baskets is rather meek. Instead you may want to look into drip coffee, or maybe a french press, or an aero press.
What price range are you talking about? Here's some gifts divided into categories and price:
Lord of the Rings (Does she like LotR?):
Games:
Other:
These are my main suggestions, for everything else there's Think Geek. But really, browse this site.
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After much research and deliberation, I settled on the DeLonghi EC155. It's under 90 bucks on Amazon here.
I haven't used my coffee maker since I bought it, and it makes pretty amazing drinks. It paid for itself in about a month.
If you are going to spend that much money, you might as well spend a few bucks more and get a real coffee maker. Single serve too. Just add hot water if you want americanos instead of espressos.
Oh you like americano?
Get yourself this espresso Bar Pump, a grinder (hand or electrical) and make it cheapo and tasty yourself.
Granted, it will cost you 2 minutes more of your time, but the result is 10x better.
You can also make great cappuccino and latte with such a combination, well and also espresso.
Edit: Oh and you get that 5000$ machine taste, because thats mostly what the other machine does, just with seperate steps.
I have this one which works great.
2 minutes to heat, strong pump, and good reviews.
Don't trust the heating light on it, just start brewing when it clicks.
For me, fine grind and good beans made all the difference. As for espresso machine, I have been using older version of this machine for years. As for the grinder, I had to hack this Mr Coffee burr grinder to make it finer (a hack similar to this). If you don't want to mess with the machine, better to get a good grinder. As for the beans, I have tried a lot of things form Starbucks brand to 100% Kona coffee beans. So far, the best tasting ones were freshly roasted beans from a local coffee company (roasted 1-2 weeks before I purchase). If you have good fresh beans, finely ground, then I wouldn't worry about getting an expensive machine too much because they won't magically enhance the taste.
Here's mine. Had it for two years, works great.
Haven't tried it myself but Ive been thinking about getting the De'longhi ec155
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000F49XXG/
$42.50 via Amazon Warehouse Deals.
Ég var að hugsa um að kaupa þessi
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F49XXG
Hann lítur út að vera goður og er undir $200 allt saman
Hmm okay I just want a starter espresso machine I know realistically I won't find one that's the same quality from the coffee shop but definitely want to save money on drinks etc . I am an addict lol. Would this be better?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000F49XXG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1452457798&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=delonghi+espresso+machine&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41RTKD7SAVL&amp;ref=plSrch
It says its semi automatic than 100% automatic
Okay well as someone who is satisfied with "mediocre" coffee how would something like this hold up?
Obviously it's nothing comparable to all the 17g in 220 degrees 38 seconds or whatever I see on here but that's the kind of thing I have in mind. Any standard recommendations in that department?
I liked my Krups espresso machine. It made decent lattes and other milk based drinks.
I had a 5240. The only thing I didn't like was how finicky the steam wand was. I just took to buying spares, as eventually I'd break things.
It seems they have fixed that in the 5280 line.
What I will say is this: The 5280 is $210. For that kind of money you can get a low end Gaggia machine (http://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-102532-Espresso-Pure-Semi-Automatic-Espresso/dp/B0015QX3BG/ref=sr_1_4?s=home-garden&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1371764480&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=gaggia+espresso) where it's no longer just a steam toy.
What the Gaggia gives you over the Krups is that there are upgrades available for the Gaggia if you ever wanted to PID it or start doing anything higher end.
>Gaggia Pure
Do you mean this one? It's not so small... https://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-102532-Espresso-Pure-Semi-Automatic-Espresso/dp/B0015QX3BG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
There is the Gaggia Pure for like 150, I have it, it works well and makes amazing espresso. I bought it first and did not have a grinder (like you) but then got a grinder later. I would advise this machine, although it's inexpensive it's good quality and very worth the money.
EDIT: I just clicked on the page that i linked and it sells it for much more than 150. However, I think you can find it for cheaper.
Also highly considering this one
My friend uses this one religiously, and hasn't complained yet:
http://www.amazon.com/Capresso-303-01-Espresso-Cappuccino-Machine/dp/B001QTVXCI/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1289707797&amp;sr=8-7
She's a medical student, so you can imagine how often she needs to replenish her caffeine levels :P
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I am trying to keep myself from purchasing this Breville and comments like this make me one step closer haha
You can get a pretty good quality machine starting at $500. they just keep going up from there. if it were me, I'd want either a Breville dual pump semi-auto, or this Pasquini and grinder combo
I myself have a Rancilio Silvia and think it's fantastic.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B005I722YC/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&amp;condition=all
Video hit home as I love espresso at home. Mr Coffee Barista works great
The dreaded 'foot drop' always gets me. One reason I love walking with my Golden Retriever is if I fall "I'm not some drunk guy" but more of person "who fell, with that pretty Golden Retriever"
On Movie Theaters -- thankfully we have iPIC. Big recliner seats, two seats together with a center console. Best part is back row, full reclined and my tremors don't disturb anyone else. Yes,I've had people ask "can you sit still?" during quiet movies, so best to go to IPIC for those unless an action thriller with lots of action!
Yeah I was looking into some machines but I didn't really know any quality ones. One of them was like a keurig machine but the thought of having to buy the little capsules was a turn off. Another one I saw had a milk frother but I'm pretty sure you guys could recommend a better one, I'll link it down below.
Also, in terms of the grinder, are beans ever sold already ground? Because I've never really seen people with a grinder usually they just have a coffee machine. Mind you, nobody i've seen is as into coffee as the hobbyists here.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007K9OIMU?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007K9OIMU/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1420299862&amp;sr=8-2&amp;pi=AC_SY200_QL40
The mr coffee is a lot less than the Jura. It's a pretty decent automatic machine for its price bracket.
This is the machine that I have
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007K9OIMU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I know this model is usually ~$500 new, but currently Amazon has the stainless steel model on sale for $428 shipped. For someone in the MA area that can pick it up this is a pretty good deal, but with shipping costs this probably isn't worth it for most.
I go believe it's an older version of this one.
Philips Saeco HD8327/47 Poemia Top Espresso Machine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008H1FKEU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_l.AyxbVX3FAW3
> Which Saeco? there's a bunch!
Sorry I forgot to add the link:
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-HD8327-47-Espresso-Stainless/dp/B008H1FKEU/ref=sr_1_9?s=kitchen&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1406736183&amp;sr=1-9&amp;keywords=saeco+espresso+machine
I’ve never used a bean to cup machine, but Breville makes one that is pretty popular and has good ratings. Plus, it has a steam wand! It’s called the Breville BES879XL (amazon link: Breville BES870XL Barista Express Espresso Machine https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Wph4AbW65HSPC)
Semi snob here. After a trip to Europe, I couldn't drink regular pre ground instant coffee anymore.
Initially I invested in one of these and would grind the beans and brew my coffee in the morning.
After my right arm started to resemble Popeye's, I splurged on one of these babies which I've been using ever since. Grinds the right amount of beans for you, makes the steamed milk, and has a filter for the water. Had it for over two years, no complaints.
I'm agree with the coments. Breville it's good option. I found Breville BES870XL Barista Express Espresso Machine interesting however the cost is about 590. But at Amazon now for 529 https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU
At this article few more reviews including Breville http://jonsguide.org/best-home-espresso-machine-reviews/
I LIKE RARE. The juices better be pooling out as soon as I stick a fork in it. Medium rare is also delicious! If my steak is well-done, then No soup for you!
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So I have been looking on Amazon. Nespresso makes you buy their capsules? Is this only for that brand? What do you think of this?
https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_6?s=kitchen&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1511490052&amp;sr=1-6&amp;keywords=espresso+machine
It looks like "super automatic," what are the pros and cons of that?
Oh my gosh the Ninja is terrible. Classic example of "tries to do everything, succeeds at nothing".
Breville machines are a pain in the butt to deal with repair-wise (it's like a cell phone, ship everything back to headquarters) but while they are working they have a lot of features for a pretty good price. Unfortunately still above your price range though. This is the Breville grinder-integrated unit (still requires the user to do manual tamp and portafilter extraction):
https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/
Super automatics aren't necessarily pricey-pricey, but obviously the nice ones are. However, even the cheaper ones (Saeco XSmall, Gaggia Brera) are unfortunately above your $300 limit. Whole Latte Love has a refurb XSmall super-automatic for $199:
https://www.wholelattelove.com/refurbished-saeco-x-small-v2-espresso-machine
So that grinds, makes espresso, but the frothing isn't automatic, so they'd have to get their own milk pitcher in there.
Wait! A lakh? What type of coffee are you specifically looking for? Look, I am an addict myself. I buy my beans, roast them grind them and make a single cup of espresso each time, but I didn't have to spend a lakh for that.
Do you want to just show off in your pad that you've got this Italian espresso machine? Then you can start with something like this.
I gave up going to Tim Hortons because 99% of the time, THEY CAN'T EVEN GET A SIMPLE DOUBLE-DOUBLE RIGHT.
How unprecedented is that I can go to the same Tim's every morning and they fuck a medium double-double up EVERY TIME?!
Enough of that shit. Their coffee already tastes like shit and I was giving them the benefit of the doubt because they were so close and I needed caffeine every morning. Now we just make it at home, where I can count on it being done properly.
For everyone here who's still stuck in a rut, buying coffee from Tim Hortons every morning on the way to work, here's some advice buy this thing:
https://www.amazon.ca/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=breville+espresso+machine&amp;qid=1550088476&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-2
Yes, it's expensive but it pays for itself pretty quick when you're not spending that money at fuckin Tim's every morning.
Not sure if it was clear - but I already have the Encore. It's served me well for the last ~2 years. I'm only needing to buy the espresso machine currently. Would it still not be worth it to try for a bit with the encore? My girlfriend's tryin to put me on a budget, so at least if I buy the espresso machine first, and I can't pull good shots from it, I could then convince her I have to buy a new grinder. She drinks and enjoys coffee as well so I'm sure I could make that purchase easily.
edit: how are the incorporated grinders in machines? i.e. Breville BES870XL Barista Express Espresso Machine While being slightly above budget for new, I wouldn't have to buy a grinder for it potentially.
Lasting impression= every morning when I fire up the coffee maker
Do I like coffee - yes
https://www.amazon.ca/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=breville&qid=1559003342&s=gateway&sr=8-3
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Has a built in grinder, is in your budget, can make good americanos if espresso is not their thing, decent cappuchinos. Its not the greatest machine in the world, but it may do the trick.
Thank you! I have a Breville Barista Express and typically try to go for a more microfoamy texture using whole milk. I aim for 140-145 Freedom Degrees and not too much bubbling on top. I have found that, while the milk does come out nice and glossy, it is missing the thickness that allows me to do stuff like latte art. Do you have any advice on that? In theory the wand on that machine should be able to do it but I have also been told otherwise.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_te7ZDbNHXQQYP
This is the one I have
What he said. Breville has an all in one with a grinder. Save up for this guy.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=asc_df_B00CH9QWOU5146648/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;creative=394997&amp;creativeASIN=B00CH9QWOU&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=167136162413&amp;hvpos=1o1&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=16366125409702049663&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=m&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9031808&amp;hvtargid=pla-272351054622
Thanks for the suggestion! From what I gather these look pretty much hands-off, and he really enjoys the whole process. I think I’ve decided on this Breville.
Breville the Barista Express Espresso Machine, BES870XL https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_y3ZSDb8BSXDCB
How much are you looking to spend? If he doesn't currently have an espresso machine this is a great starter:
https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU
I picked one up and it gets daily use. Nothing too fancy but it gets the job done. My wife and I are very happy with it.
If you look around for a bit on Amazon and wait for a warehouse deal to pop up, you can find a Barista Express for around $325 in "Used - Acceptable" condition (which normally just means it has no box and some scratches). Here is the page to look at.
I got one a while ago for that price. It has a grinder built in and is a good machine. The grinder isn't the best and the machine is just entry level, but for the price I don't think you can find anything that can get an OK shot for that price.
Amazon has a 4 year extended warranty through Assurion for like $30 as well if you care about those things.
Oh nice!
My buddy has one of these which I’ve been able to use several times. The cleaning procedure is extremely simple too. I’m thinking about getting one...
I'm curious which machine you have and what part failed? I'm using this unit it's the first manual machine I've had
https://www.amazon.ca/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00DS47652?th=1&amp;psc=1
Might upgrade when it craters but i actually fully recommend it for entry level folks who are hesitant to spend money on what they know little about, it is a great machine to learn on and find out if you really enjoy having one
Something like this would be more than ample for your current situation. It is inexpensive enough that it would be worth springing for now-- even at an average of 3 drinks a day the machine would pay for itself in a year-ish.
If your espresso orders are much busier than that you would need to upgrade to a shop-grade machine, but for starters you could start smaller [I wouldn't go below $350]. If you are at all steady with chais, cider, hot chocolate, lattes, etc the upgrade will be justified in a matter of months, assuming the person who writes the checks agrees.
https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870BSXL-Barista-Express-Machine/dp/B00DS4767K/
I'm currently using a Barista Express. I've had it for a little over a year now and I have nothing but good things to say about it.
If you want to delve a bit deeper into the espresso hole, though, the /r/espresso and /r/roasting subreddit's have some great content.
There are some pretty intense setups in there.
It's a Capresso. And here's the grinder.
Anyone seen or used this setup?
Flair Espresso Maker - Manual Press https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X916JM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_p8qEAb8S2TTHR
Consider this press: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X916JM8/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_RPhXDb57VMTGW
No milk steamer, but you can use a stand-alone steamer or a French press. Steam wands on any espresso machine less than an absurd amount (like, 500+, not absurd for espresso but absurd for anything else) are really, really hard to get good steamed milk with anyway.
I've never used the press, but I've seen people get awesome results: put it on a scale and try to maintain a certain number for constant-ish pressure.
I cant say definitively without experience but reading the reviews the Flair Espresso Maker came highly rated. Don't think you're gonna get performance of such pressure for an automated machine at that price range. I wanted to order one just havent gotten around to it.
https://www.amazon.com/Flair-Espresso-Maker-Manual-Press/dp/B06X916JM8
I think what I'd call high-end is what you're calling low-end, so I'd say that probably answers my question as to how usable low-end machines are haha.
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I see the one linked to above is available for significantly cheaper,
https://www.amazon.ca/Welljoin-Professional-Frother-Cappuccino-Coffeemaker/dp/B07CXRX71L/ref=sr_1_36?keywords=milk+steamer&qid=1549768705&s=gateway&sr=8-36
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What would be the difference between that, and the stovetop ones?
https://www.amazon.com/European-Gift-50SS-Stove-Top-Stainless/dp/B0040BF8QG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1549768827&sr=8-2&keywords=milk+steamer+stove+top
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Essentially what I need to know is;
Comparing a steamer in a cheap $100-200 machine to a $600-800 machine, is it merely buying better espresso, and only $1000 machines are where you see a huge difference in the steamer? And in what I suppose you would consider very low end machines like this,
https://www.amazon.ca/Delonghi-EC685M-Dedica-Espresso-Machine/dp/B072WZL4ZT/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=espresso+machine&qid=1549769259&s=gateway&sr=8-7
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What qualities do the steamers have that make them far inferior to those found in the Silvia?
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Also thanks for the help so far.
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This one has been long in my order list, read every review and so many YouTube videos about it. Looks to be a fairly good espresso machine. With a frother as well. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0001KOA4Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1474816260&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=gaggia+classic+espresso+machine&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=41GEJM8TPSL&amp;ref=plSrch
http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1382981773&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=espresso
I'm looking to make Carmel macchiatos at home (I really enjoy the iced ones from Starbucks). Aside from an espresso machine, are there any other tools I'll need to accomplish this? Thanks!
I'm looking to get this: http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=sr_1_6?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;s=kitchen&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1377969063&amp;sr=1-6
http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&amp;colid=1CR9YK1EKP51T&amp;coliid=I2LHJGGUOLN6OB
This may get some down votes but I've heard great things about the De'Longhi EC155 and it's only $90. www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000F49XXG I don't personally own one but the reviews on it are worth at least considering it. And if you look hard enough, you can even find a few others recommending it in this sub. I do agree with everyone else, it's all about the grinder (and IMO, more importantly the beans). Look into getting the baratza encore or the capresso infinity, $130 and $80 respectively. And if you're lucky, you can score a refurbished baratza encore on their website. Check every Thursday, that's when the post their refurbished items.
Wow guys, this is amazing. My mom's birthday is also coming up in about a week, and I am also looking for an espresso machine. However, my budget is a lot smaller - $200-300 tops. Any suggestions? Should I just get the top-rated product on Amazon?
My mom doesn't really drink espresso but she'll love it. She's currently drinking instant coffee daily, so I think espresso machine would be a big improvement.
EDIT: didn't hear from anyone so I ended up ordering Mr. Coffee BVMC-ECMP1000. Seems like a good fit.
> The pressure gauge alone is a great idea
Looks like the pressure gauge will cost you an additional $40.
As I said it was used and didn't last long, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was used improperly. I use filtered water, and I don't see any grounds or scaling. Where would I look for the scaling issue? I have even run the Urnex Cafiza stuff through it which may have helped, but hardly noticeable. Now the machine is hardly usable :(
This is the one I have. Like I said, it's no high end machine but I do recall it making a decent cup of espresso at one point.
save more and get honestly you will want to spend the majority on the grinder https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%80%90%E4%B8%A6%E8%A1%8C%E8%BC%B8%E5%85%A5%E3%80%91Breville-BES870XL-%E3%83%90%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF-Express-Espresso-%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B9%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%BD%E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC/dp/B00CH9QWOU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510030616&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=breville
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%87%E3%83%AD%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AE-%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B9%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8E%E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC-%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B9%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%BD%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B7%E3%83%B3-EC152J-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%C3%97%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC/dp/B0047C8856/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1510030796&amp;sr=8-8&amp;keywords=delonghi%28%E3%83%87%E3%83%AD%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AE spend rest on good grinder
http://www.amazon.com/DeLonghi-EC155-Espresso-Cappuccino-Maker/dp/B000F49XXG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1421873498&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=espresso
On sale. The cheapest true (pressurized correctly) espresso machine that I know of, has a decent enough frothing tip for foam, and it pulls some great shots. I have a friend who has had one for a couple of years, and his is still running great- if you're starting out or even pretty knowledgeable about coffee, I recommend this. Plus, it's almost 50% off!
yikes, 'not great, still usable' for $500 sounds risky and a loss. I would buy a brand new Breville Infuser with that $500